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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

Okay... so a couple of days ago, we ran a rumor about John Cusack possibly being cast as Dan (Night Owl) in David Hayter’s upcoming WATCHMEN.

There were a couple of things wrong with that. First, the idea that anyone is cast as anything yet is wrong. That’s because the second thing that was wrong was the idea that Hayter’s directing. He’d like to, certainly, and the studio’s open to it, but no decision has been made yet. They may end up making him test for it, which isn’t uncommon. Andrew Niccol did that for THE TRUMAN SHOW, shooting one scene from his script with Gary Oldman playing Truman. Before they can start casting WATCHMEN, they’ll have to decide if Hayter is indeed the man for the job, and that means there’s a whole process that’ll happen regarding that first. For now, the one solid thing is that Larry Gordon and Lloyd Levin, who are just finishing up HELLBOY for Revolution with Guillermo Del Toro, are looking forward to gearing up with the same studio on WATCHMEN, with much of the same crew just rolling over from one film to the other. Hopefully, we’ll start hearing more about the picture soon, and at the moment, know that the casting isn’t happening, and won’t for a while.

We’ll keep you posted.

"Moriarty" out.

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  • Oct. 31, 2003, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Just who does watch the watchmen?

    by Danger Mouse

    This is one of those projects that could be crap or awsome- depending on the approach. Such a landmark comic could have trouble fiinding a wider audience even if it is done well...

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Yeah, but if the watchmen watch us, who watches Hulk Hogan?

    by JohnnyBlueJeans

    I do, says I...I do.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Who watches...WHA?

    by TheKingInYellow

    i thought gilliam was doing this. am i mistaken? maybe i read the wrong thing somewhere or heard the wrong commentary or something but i recall hearing something about gilliam wanting to do watchmen. guess not. any news on that just to prove that i'm not mad.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 1:35 a.m. CST

    They'll NEVER let Hayter direct.

    by Cash Bailey

    Or if they do, they'll punk his ass out like Fox did with Mark Steven Johnson on DAREDEVIL. They'll take away every ounce of creative control off him until the film is but a flacid shell of what it could have been had a more suitable and powerful director been in charge. And Hayter will be so desperate to realise this masterpiece on screen that he'll suddenly think that Evanescence songs throughout the entire fucking movie is actually a good idea. I truly hope the script is as good as Moriarty claimed it was, but without a brave, powerful director (Ang Lee would have been perfect until he fucked up HULK) it will never survive the 'development' process.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 1:43 a.m. CST

    For the Hell of It.......My Watchmen Cast

    by Solrider77

    Main Cast:Nite Owl II-Bill Paxton, Silk Spectre II-Carla Gugino, Rorsach-Steve Buscemi, Comedian-Tom Berenger, Voice of Dr. Manhattan-Tim Daly, Ozymandias-Brad Pitt. Supporting Cast:Nite Owl(Hollis Mason)-Robert Forester,Silk Spectre( Sally Jupiter)-Ann Margret

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 1:59 a.m. CST

    THE ULTIMATE dream cast for THE WATCHMEN is here!

    by Hung-Wei Lo

    You ready? How about casting no one? How about not making this movie at all? How about I plant my big bad foot up your ass and call you Sally? It doesn't need to be made! Secondly, for as groundbreaking as the comic book was, it is no longer groundbreaking in concept today. Just let this project die, and let the book continue to live on as one of those cherished reading materials.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 3:30 a.m. CST

    You gotta love Revolution Studios!

    by Ribbons

    What with Guillermo's 'Hellboy,' and now this 'Watchmen' movie that they've taken under their wing, they're the savior of fan films! Say, I even hear that they've got two guys from the internet lined up for movie deals! How indie! can't go wrong with REVOLUTION STUDIOS! [gives thumps up]

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 3:40 a.m. CST

    My choice to direct

    by Ribbons

    If they're gonna do this they gotta do this right so umm let me see. My choice to direct would be David Fincher! Yeah! Imagine how bone-ass that would be! The scenes with rorsharch would be all gritty and cool and stuff! Okay, maybe they should go with Sam Raimi...yeah, that would be better. Because he can have all these goofy close-ups of Ozymandias's wyes, and...well, he could make it look all quaint for ironic value....ummm, okay, you're right. They have to go with Paul Thomas Anderson because he's weird and quirky and cool! You heard it from a fanboy, big evil studio executive monster men! Now don't screw this one up! Oh, and if you could send that script my way so I can take a look at it and make a couple of revisions, that'd be great. Thanks.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 4:40 a.m. CST

    I will be stunned if this translates to screen.

    by Heleno

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 7:45 a.m. CST

    You could have Jesus direct this and it'll stink

    by CellarDoor

    If you have to change things to make it work as a movie then don't FUCKING BOTHER! It's irrelevant who directs, the script is the most important thing as well as the ending. The end cannot be changed. All those fuckers that think that because LOTR has been translated well this will also work. It won't. Peter Jackson, for all his changes, has maintained the spirit of the story and he hasn't changed the actual end (beyond the scouring). However, every studio around is gonna pussy out and change the ambigous ending into somthing that satisfies a mainstream audience. Fuck that. The only reason you tell this story is so that the audience is left thinking/debating/arguing who was right? Can anyone be right? What is right? I'd love to see Kovacs blown away in the snow, I'd love to see Laurie and Dan's awkward relationship, I'm deseparate to see someone chew up the scenery as the comedian but I don't want this to be a 'comic-book movie'. It is the antithesis of that and should remain so.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 8:40 a.m. CST

    OK, so I guess I'm the only guy on Earth who didn't like Watchme

    by FrankCobretti

    Hey, look at me, I'm cynical. Feh.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Doesn't need to be a movie

    by rev_skarekroe

    LEAVE IT ALONE. Thank you. sk

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Giovanni Ribisi for RORSCACH!

    by brockp

    He looks the parts and has the acting chops. Here are the rest of my picks: Comedian: Gary Oldman Nite Owl: Bill Pullman Silver Specter: Catherine Zeta-Jones Dr Manhattan: Christian Bale Adrien Veidt: Brad Pitt Coolio!

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 12:10 p.m. CST

    was it that good?

    by trkane

    i may be too young to appreciate the ground breaking nature of watchmen, but having read it directly after kingdom come, i was a little underwhelmed. and the pirate sub-plot thing didn't work for me, at least not until the end where it got all creepy with the dead-body boat. dream casting on this one is one thing, but hollywood would rather make kiera knightly the silver spectre and colin ferrel as night owl. maybe ashton kutcher as the comedian.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 12:43 p.m. CST

    If the studios made 'Watchmen' into an 'R'-rated animated series

    by Benny Profane

    ...maybe then I'd take them seriously. There's no fucking way a scriptwriter can squeeze a 12 book epic into 90 minutes of live-action for a bunch of attention-deficient morons. NO FUCKING WAY.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 10:57 p.m. CST

    This concept deserves only the best treatment, or else why bothe

    by Devil'sOwn

    I was a comic reader for many years, but I couldn't help but be impressed when I finally got around to reading Watchmen. It makes you think and feel, like any good art. The movie should too. I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way. If there's any justice in the world at all, the filmmakers will not cheapen this story. It defies any "demographic". It holds the promise of drama, suspense, and so many wonders. All the casting suggestions are inspired. I only hope when they have an actual cast, it'll be just as interesting. As for the story's relevance, well, I don't want to say it's "timeless". I'm sure some of it seems dated nowadays. I have younger friends who have trouble seeing the series' impact, so much has come down the line. Still, there's never really been anything else like it, and a well-made film adaptation would drive that home.

  • Oct. 31, 2003, 11 p.m. CST

    I fear for this project...

    by Johnny Ahab

    It's not going to work as a movie. It just won't. Movie companies just do not have the balls to make a movie like this. Movie companies exist to MAKE MONEY. Do you see "WATCHMEN" cracking $100M at the box office? I mean, seriously. It's beloved by comics geeks and fanboys, but it's just way too damn dark for middle America. It just ain't gonna fly. And second, Revolution Studios is the WRONGEST OF WRONG places for this kind of material. Except for "BLACKHAWK DOWN", "TEARS OF THE SUN" and "PUNCH-DRUNK LOVE", Revolution hasn't really produced anything wildly original, gritty or ballsy. Look at their past slates, all crappy comedies or cream-puff films: TOMCATS, AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS, MASTER OF DISGUISE, DADDY DAY CARE, GIGLI, ANGER MANAGEMENT, MAID IN MANHATTAN, RADIO, STEALING HARVARD, THE ANIMAL, HOLLYWOOD HOMICIDE -- doesn't exactly give one a lot of hope that these guys are gonna stay true to the spirit & vision of such a tough project to nail. There really is only one home for this: HBO. If Revolution has ANY smarts, they will partner up with HBO for a 12 part series. HBO lives for ground-breaking, challenging material that critics go ga-ga over -- and they aren't beholden to box office numbers. They've built up such massive cred with their subscribers who stick around for such dark, challenging, original stuff like THE SOPRANOS, SIX FEET UNDER, and the repellent but fascinating OZ. If they can keep the butt-rapin', nihilistic OZ on the air for 3-4 seasons, they can handle this. Harry, now that you're ACTUALLY WORKING FOR REVOLUTION, can you talk some sense into these folks and tell them to do this the RIGHT WAY, as an HBO series?

  • Nov. 1, 2003, 5:16 a.m. CST


    by reneumann

    Rutger Hauer as Ozy. Can't think of anyone else who would fit. His supremely competent, arrogant, psychotic role in "The Hitcher" is a very close fit, and the physical resemblence is very good. He's close to the right age as well. Tom Berenger good as Comedian. I actually can sort of see William Macy as Night Owl II (even tho the physical resemblence is much closer to Raw Shark), but I would prefer to see John Cusack carrying a film like this (since NO2 is arguably the primary character.. at least the primary sympathetic character). I just don't think he's as good at convincingly expressing loss, and _feeling_ lost, as Macy. Maybe John C. McGinley as Rorshach; he has the hair, the build (too tall tho), and the intensity, and I'm a big fan of his in general. Billy Zane wouldn't be bad as the stranded sailor :) Dr. Manhattan is hard.. if Christopher Walken was younger, I'd really like to see him try it. I completely agree that an HBO miniseries would potentially be a far better medium for Watchmen than a feature film. And I'd go out of my way to encourage an Alan Moore cameo in there somewhere.

  • Nov. 1, 2003, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Should I even bother?

    by Ribbons

    I know trying to get people to listen on a talkback is like trying to hold back the tide, but, I'll try once more: HBO. Not. Gonna. Happen. Okay? We understand how smart you are for realizing how smart Terry Gilliam is for suggesting a miniseries on HBO. We understand you think it would work MUUUCH better for reasons you don't really put much effort into discussing. Well, all that said, NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN. There are too many powerful people out there who think that it could work as a movie, and you're stupid if you boycott a film simply because it's not a miniseries, and they know you know this. Kay? So, one more time: You think it would work best on HBO. Great. Not. Gonna. Happen. Stop making it the topic of discussion like your words are going to reach anyone that matters.

  • Nov. 1, 2003, 11:57 a.m. CST

    It can be done

    by Magpie13

    Maybe as a trilogy a la 'LoTR' or 'The Matrix'. Casting will be key. I like the idea of Giovani Ribisi (,%20Giovanni) as Rorschach. Doesn't matter though. Unless Alan Moore gets 100% script approval the studios will screw it up.

  • Nov. 1, 2003, 2:56 p.m. CST


    by Sith Lord Sauron

    A big-budget high end anime written and directed by the incomparible Hayao Miyazaki but an anime nonetheless. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WILL BE DONE JUSTICE.

  • Nov. 2, 2003, 10:34 a.m. CST

    How 'bout NO?

    by Devil'sOwn

    Abuse crack much?

  • Nov. 25, 2003, 12:24 p.m. CST

    David Hayter

    by Huntress

    I've known David for a while now..and see no reason why he won't or can't direct the film. He has written an amazing script ( read Moriarty's review!)and deserves a shot at this film. He has produced movies and is far more capable of directing them than most first time directors. Revolution and Sony may make him jump through hoops as they do with EVERY first time directors but with Lloyd 's support and track record..and a very experienced DP...David, who has written a brilliant script, is really the ONLY person to direct this film. As for maintaining the integrity of his script...I know he'd rather walk away then put his name on anything that doesnt represent his vision.

  • April 12, 2007, 6:08 p.m. CST


    by robishairycheez

    i see luke wilson as nite owl.