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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Crusty Seaman Quint just called my house at an ungodly hour, awakening the lovely Mrs. Moriarty from her slumber, a dicey proposition unless something truly big is going on.
He’s lucky. She loves SPIDER-MAN, and when she took a peek at the link he was trying to send me, she told me that she wouldn’t have to kill him at BNAT after all.
CLICK HERE TO SEE THE POSTER THAT SAVED QUINT’S LIFE!!
Very slick. Very simple. That poster screams confidence. I cannot wait to see the first trailer that features actual moving Doc Ock footage. I need to see the arms in motion soon, and I hope I get all giddy when I do. For now, the poster’s sweeeeeeeet...
"Moriarty" out.
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All to easy, my first sense was tingling!
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What a way to start the morning!
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It worked for me but here's the 800x600 direct
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But after Doc Oc, what decent baddies does Spidey have?
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Oct 30, 2003 6:31:09 AM CST
After X2, this movie has to work its ass off to pull it of...
by tadziolives!
...but at least the images look cool...And Alfred Molina never looked this baaaaaaad...
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It mostly, y'know, looks like Spider-Man. Which is a good thing and all, but we've kinda seen it haven't we? Perhaps I am missing something here....
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Moriarty's got a missus? I guess there's hope for all those slovenly, self-absorbed, wannabe-writer fanboys yet!
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It's so orange, I mean how much more orange could it be? None. None, more orange.
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First off...AWESOME poster! I so can not wait for this movie. Loved the first one, and I'm sure the sequil will blow the original off the screen (Ala X2) But the real reason I'm posting is I saw the question regarding what baddies are left after Doc Oc. You're not serious are you? I mean, Spiderman's rogue gallery is second only to Batman's. The only other heroes that come close are the X-Men and the Flash. After Doctor Octopus you have Venom and Carnage (Oh imagine the Venom and Carnage with all the CGI possibilities *Drool*), Electro, the Lizard, the return of the Green Goblin (Harry is Pete's best friend, It's pretty much a given), the Sandman, Mysterio, Black Cat (Also a possible second love interest for Pete), the Scorpion, the Kingpin (Yeah I know he was in Daredevil, but he's also a Spidey baddie) Kravin the hunter, the list just goes on and on. If done right like they've done thus far, this is one franchise that could actually live up to what it's suppose to be. Thank you for your time.
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The hell? They could put that picture in the dictionary under "Generic". Its just a picture of Spiderman. Could have been a promo poster for the first movie. Stupid and boring.
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And CAPTAIN FIRST, your kingdom will come to an end soon! You are messing with forces that you do not understand. No mortal can be first so many times, and besides IT
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I like it. Still one of my favorite posters was a Star Wars one - don't think it was a teaser poster...not sure though. The one of Jake Lloyd walking on Tattooine or some such and the shadow he casts on the wall is that of Vader. Similar idea here. Subtle yet strong. Nice.
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No, seriously, we all complain about how hype will destroy our enjoyment of a movie (reloaded?), by upping our expectations or selling a film as something other than it is just to reach a popular demographic. Ever heard a phrase like 'well i didn't like it at first, but i watched it again years later and i realised it was actually a pretty cool little movie'. this happens because we are so bombarded by the advertising campaign during the run up that when we finally sit in the theatre we are constantly comparing the film with the poster campaign, rather than just watching the damn movie. it's a very schizophrenic experience. Stop caring about the posters people! they are not the movie, their purpose is to sell you things, not entertain you and, you know what, soemtimes the advertising campaign lies to you. horror! posters get in the way of the movie. ignore them.
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Even better than the first ones, and I thought they were excellent.
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C'mon, I can't have been the only person to think about that Fanily Guy line after reading this story's headline?
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Venom and Carnage sure deserve a movie...I think they should begin to work it in from this movie...like, John Jameson, JJ's son who's an astronaut, comes back from space but almost crashes and is saved by Spider-Man and a bit of the black symbiote from space is on the spaceship and sticks on Spidey...and you develop that in Spider-Man 3...or something like that...cause it's a hell of a story to tell...they can't do secret wars solely in the third movie...
Electro kinda sucks...he's a typical '60s baddie...campy...look at his costume for God's sake...
The Lizard is in Spider-Man 2...at least in his human form...
The Green Goblin again? It's going to be a trilogy, I don't think they're gonna use the SAME villain in two movies...they'll sure exploit Harry's probable downfall, but I don't see them bringing back de GG.
The Sandman rules but he's kinda of a secondary villain...not much charisma, like the Lizard...maybe he'll be there as an "intro" villain in the third flick...but I don't think they'll make him the main villain in a movie
Mysterio, likewise...kinda campy too...even though I like his SFX background...
Black Cat is too much of a Catwoman reminder...too close...but I like the idea of a female villain...
The Scorpion sucks. Like Electro and Kraven...campy '60s comic book ideas...
The Kingpin CAN'T be used because of right issues...Fox (Daredevil) owns him.
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I know it's the actual poster, however it only serves to solidify my belief that the art of the movie poster is dead. Dull dull dull.
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The hobbit, a gay-looking curley guy named Frodo, says: "Geez, I can't fuck those whores!" Says R2:
"Let me guess: You're penis is too small, because you are a hobbit." Frodo: "No, I don't have a penis, like all those people who think LOTR is better than STAR WARS. But do you know the irony?" R2 says "No!" Frodo presents a small golden ring. He says: "I don't have a penis, but I have a penis ring. Perhaps you could use my penis ring, when you fuck those whores?" "No, thanks", R2 says. "I can't use the One Ring." Frodo, who has no penis, asks: "Why? Are you without a penis, too?" "No", R2 says. "I, like all the folks who think STAR WARS is better than LOTR, have a penis. But I can't use your penis ring." Frodo says: "Please, tell me! Why can't you use my penis ring?" Says R2: "It'S too small." Frodo, who really looks very gay, says: "Is your penis too big for my little penis ring? Is your penis THAT big??" R2 looks at Frodo and says: "I AM my penis!!!" Than Frodo bents over and - a few seconds later - shouts: "Oh yesssss! That really is HELM's DEEP!" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! -
I saw it in the theaters, and hated it. Then it grossed hundreds of millions, and I decided to give it another chance on DVD - and it STILL sucked! Even if I don't like a big hit, I can usually understand why people liked it - but with "Spider-Man," I honestly can't. Bad special effects, the worst over-acting in movie history by Willem Dafoe, the Goblin costume, the "Gobby" line (I don't care if it is from the comics), etc. etc. etc.
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Oct 30, 2003 8:26:09 AM CST
Spidey2 canno fo wrong...It is the realisation of all my childho
by theaquabatman
Just watching the guy in action gives me a high. watchin his style as we climbs and swings around buildings.... PURE EYE CANDY... you never get sick of candy. Bring it on... too long to wait. Where does all that web come from anyway. Thats a lot of fluid being expelled from a little body. That kid must drink 100 lrs a day. is the webbing edible? how does the spider hair reach through his gloves or shoes to effectively take hold of walls and rooves? so many questions my spidey senses are tingling.
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Ok, nice poster... let's hope the movie is MUCH better than the first.
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There is no way either of these characters should feature in a future Spidey movie. The villain in 3 will be The Lizard, it is as good as admitted by having Curt Conners actually APPEAR on screen in 2. After that, if they make any more (which part of me kinda hopes they won't, as Raimi and Maguire will doubtless leave after completing their trilogy), they should move on to Electro, the Sandman, Mysterio and other classic Spidey foes. These don't need to be 60's or campy - check out what Brain Bendis is doing with them in the current line of Ultimate books. If they do use either of these two characters it should only be Venom, and they should ditch the whole Secret Wars alien shit, like they did recently in Ultimate Spider-Man. Carnage is a crappy character created to exploit a popular one (i.e. Venom). The only reason to do Venom would be to see hwo they would achieve the alien suit with CG and to see Spidey on screen in his black costume. THAT would be cool. Bring on the gray Hulk!
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You ever thought of doing standup? Seriously man, you could make it big. Potential comic genius, I think.
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It's got that subtle comic book cover feel to it, with the villain reflected in his eye and all. Spidey 1 was decent, only it suffered from some semi Hulk-itis...being a tad too boring in parts. I'm assuming they can up the ante some this time around, make Spidey a sarcastic jokester, pissing off Doc Ock not only physically but mentally as well.
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Oct 30, 2003 9:04:46 AM CST
But after Doc Oc, what decent baddies does Spidey have?
by mitch cumstein
The baddest of all. Venom.
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I honestly don't understand the love of the first one....I think they tried to do too much; they should've split off Goblin to the second movie, and have Spidey deal with becoming a hero and all that. And for Stan's sake DO THE FREAKIN' GWEN STACY STORYLINE, COWARDS! First movie: Spidey origins, then Spidey vs. Ock, Gwen's father dies. Second movie: Spidey vs. Green Goblin, Gwen dies, introduce Mary Jane and the black costume. Third movie: Rhino (engineered by J. Jonah, natch--and played by Hulk Hogan!)) vs Spidey, but then Venom 'arrives', so Venom vs Spidey. Fourth movie: Harry Osborn as Goblin vs. Spidey. Movie ends with the cliffhanger that...PETER PARKER IS A CLONE!!!!!! Ok, maybe not. But the rest of it is all good. IT AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE PEOPLE. Of course, now it's too late.
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Hell yea!
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Oct 30, 2003 9:28:13 AM CST
I like the Lizard, but maybe they should have Spider-Man 3 featu
by rev_skarekroe
Y'know, for a change. sk
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I was wondering when someone would bring up that news item about Moore. What a glorious day!
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... need to shut up 'til the movie comes out, because they sound like whiney girls. There were THREE reasons not to like Spider-Man (the first one): flat script, weak special effects, god-awful Green Goblin costume. While, personally, I didn't think the SFX in the first were all that bad, they WILL be better the second time around. As for the script: Michael Chabon. Read one of his books, guys -- the man is a hell of a writer, and based on Kavalier & Clay, he obviously has much love for comics -- there is NO WAY this script will not rock. Did I mention THE MAN WON A PULITZER FUCKING PRIZE!?! The god-awful Goblin costume was passed down to Raimi after he picked up the first movie part-way through pre-production. This time the movie's Sam Raimi's all the way -- the suck-ass Green Goblin costume is nowhere to be seen, and Doc Ock looks pretty cool to me. Quit yer whinin'!
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Is it just me or does it look like Neo with a Sentinal behind him in Spidermans eye? Is this a well-covered-up crossover flick? Or is EVERYTHING being given bullet-time and long trench coats these days? By the way... I vote for Venom... they already mentioned Eddie Brock in the first flick...to quote JAck Nicholson in The Shining "Go check it out!!"
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The script of spidey was just spectacularly lame. it was everything that was bad about cookie cutter hollywood blockbusters. You spidey-loverboys were so close to getting a shit-fest until one thing happened: Sam Raimi. all the good bits in the first film were Raimi moments so let's hope the 2nd is about the 'classic' (i hope that's an obtuse enough reference for you). best moment of the 1st film: Willem, about to get injected, gets strapped onto the table in the lab and says 'ooh, that's cold!'. i'm serious now, that's genius.
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I wonder what is going to happen if America suffers a terrorist attack on Alfred Molina - will they recall the poster?
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As one of my esteemed colleagues above mentioned, I couldn't help but think MMPR when Spidey and Goblin were speaking in costume...it was that bad. While I admire Chabon's work, remember what happened the last time we got an esteemed personage doing a comic book film: The Hulk.
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hahahahahahahah. dart voldemort, you rock.
plus spidey three must have venom and carnage in otherwise i'll burn my spidey underoo's.
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Oct 30, 2003 10:00:12 AM CST
it looked power-rangerish only because we've never seen it outsi
by terry_1978
Those Saban kiddie shows ruined the whole concept with the kids in masks fighting supervillains. If Spidey would crack jokes and talk while doing acrobatics instead of when just standing around, a la the comics, it might look and sound a little better in my opinion.
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Did the mask move when he spoke? I seem to recall that it didn't. That's what bugged--the fact that it looked it was a voiceover. If they just had the mask respond to the movement of his jaw, I doubt I would've thought MMPR
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While everyone is getting their thong panties in a twist about Doc Ock, the most important thing is to keep the expectations in check. I'm expecting 2 to be no better than 1. That way, if sucks just as bad, I won't be disappointed and I'll be pleased if it's even a little bit better.
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I'm holding out for the poster featuring Kirstin Dunst's nipples.
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Oct 30, 2003 12:04:48 PM CST
Please, please, please tell me there is only one bad guy in this
by russman
I really hope there's only one. It would suck if this goes the route of Batman with 3 SuperVillains.
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One of the best things about Superman:The Movie was that it saved its best story for the second film.They should have set up the Norman Osborne storyline in the first film and then left it to be resolved in a future film. With all the borrowing that was going on in the Spider-Man movie, I couldn't believe they lifted the exact same mistake that Burton's Batman made:Take your best villian, the one with whom the the protaganist has a long and stormy history, the villian that practically defines the word nemesis, AND KILL HIM. I was enjoying Batman number one, until about halfway through when Jack suddenly lanches into Ceasar Romero mode, and then stays that way until THEY KILL HIM. When I first saw it, I thought "Holy shit ,they killed the Joker! That took some balls!" And then two seconds later I'm thinking," holy shit they killed the Joker, what a dumbass thing to do." Because where do you go from there? Even in Superman II, they didn't kill off Zod because they wanted to keep it open in case they felt like bringing him back later. That's what the comics have been doing for decades. There were a few other changes in the Spider-Man movie that didn't help the characters much. Like putting Mary Jane right next door to Peter Parker. That's just a little too convenient, but having their bedroom windows directly across from each other? No wonder the guy took up photography as a hobby, Peter Pervert is more like it. Mary Jane's history was also severely altered to make her seem more attainable, but they take her down so many notches that she's practically white trash. I realise that there was once a time when they had to condense the entire backstory into one film in case that was the one and only film to come out of these stories, but that isn't the case any more. You'd have to be pretty short sighted or have no faith in your movie at all to think that there won't be at least one sequel.Laying out these stories as a trilogy, or a series of connected storylines would have been the best way to handle Spider-Man's story. That way when the Green Goblin faces off against him , Spider-Man would have grown into his role of crimefighter/vigilante as well as having to deal with his problems involving his family and friends, and the storyline could have gradually built up to Gwen Stacy's death . The whole matter could have carried a little more weight beyond the usual movie solution of "Introduce the bad guy,and then kill him."
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Oct 30, 2003 2:47:05 PM CST
This poster is BORING. Is this really the best they could come
by gere's assgerbil
I liked that Doc Ock-on-the-rooftops image that was released a few months ago much better. I hope this movie is better than the last one but I'm remaining skeptical. The first one was huge largely due to the pent-up demand for a big budget Spider-Man flick. Raimi and Macguire got the heart of the Peter Parker character right on the money, but the movie fumbled in almost every other department, most notably with the cartoonish CGI. And, according to that guy in Japan awhile back, the trailer is still using wire frame animation! Granted, I'm no expert on the time involved in making quality CGI, but this seems like they're gonna be cutting it close. Is it just me or is anyone else concerned about this?
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Although the Spider-man movie franchise is in good shape, it could have been in great shape if they would have followed the basic framework these guys mentioned, which is what I have often thought. That is, open the first film with Doc Ock as a villan, and Harry and Norman Osborne as characters, along with Gwen Stacy. It ends on an high note, with Spidey swinging through New York City, happy at last. Then the darker second film could have Norman turning into the Green Goblin, finding out Spider-Man's identity, and killing Gwen Stacy. Mary Jane has entered the picture, and Peter rejects her (just like he did in that original storyline) and then you have the second picture ending just like the first one did. (just the addition of Gwen Stacy, now deceased). This sets up the third film, which I think should involve the Black Cat. I think this character is the only way to go if you're going to establish that Peter is a responsible guy (with great power) who in no way could justify putting a normal girl's life at risk. And so he is "doomed" to be involved with a chick superhero. Think about it, what an arc: he starts off the series incapable of getting a date with a fellow high school chick, he proceeds along to the point that he's good enough, then way better, having to reject them for their own good. It ends with him having the ultimate chick for him, a fellow costumed character (who, presumably, could take care of herself when she's out of her superhero guise). The last image of Spider-man would be him swinging through the city with the Black Cat, which I think would be a fitting end. As for a villain in that last flick -well, you COULD go all out and have it be the Sinister Six or something. That movie would only cost about $200 million. But hey, wouldn't it be great to have a third film in a series be good for once? (I know, I know, "Return of the King." Besides that!)
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Although the Spider-man movie franchise is in good shape, it could have been in great shape if they would have followed the basic framework these guys mentioned, which is what I have often thought. That is, open the first film with Doc Ock as a villan, and Harry and Norman Osborne as characters, along with Gwen Stacy. It ends on an high note, with Spidey swinging through New York City, happy at last. Then the darker second film could have Norman turning into the Green Goblin, finding out Spider-Man's identity, and killing Gwen Stacy. Mary Jane has entered the picture, and Peter rejects her (just like he did in that original storyline) and then you have the second picture ending just like the first one did. (just the addition of Gwen Stacy, now deceased). This sets up the third film, which I think should involve the Black Cat. I think this character is the only way to go if you're going to establish that Peter is a responsible guy (with great power) who in no way could justify putting a normal girl's life at risk. And so he is "doomed" to be involved with a chick superhero. Think about it, what an arc: he starts off the series incapable of getting a date with a fellow high school chick, he proceeds along to the point that he's good enough, then way better, having to reject them for their own good. It ends with him having the ultimate chick for him, a fellow costumed character (who, presumably, could take care of herself when she's out of her superhero guise). The last image of Spider-man would be him swinging through the city with the Black Cat, which I think would be a fitting end. As for a villain in that last flick -well, you COULD go all out and have it be the Sinister Six or something. That movie would only cost about $200 million. But hey, wouldn't it be great to have a third film in a series be good for once? (I know, I know, "Return of the King." Besides that!)
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Oct 30, 2003 4:17:26 PM CST
Well, now that I've gotten THAT off my chest, what were we talki
by timbenzedrine
Oh yes, the poster. I guess it's O.K., It serves its purpose, I guess, but gosh, movie posters sure aint what they used to be. D'you think if Raiders were released today, the key graphic would be Harrison Ford's head? They should have gotten some comic book cover artists on this job.
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Oct 30, 2003 4:48:59 PM CST
Chabon did a draft...but then they handed it off to someone else
by minderbinder
Kind of a shame, I got excited when I heard Chabon was involved, it would have been cool to see his version. Agreed on the mask, why doesn't the jaw move when he talks? You feel like Spidey is all stuntmen and CGI with Tobey just doing the voice (even though that's not the case). And also agreed on taking the Gwen Stacy bridge scenario and turning it into a copout. It's always interesting to force a character into a tough choice...but when you somehow make it possible to save both, it's fucking lame. Copout. It makes the movie lose credibility, same as killing a character then reincarnating them. I did like most of the script for Spidey though, the Peter Parker stuff was awesome, the problem was mostly underwhelming action sequences.
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Was that SARCASM you came out with?!?! How ORIGINAL!!!
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Oct 30, 2003 6:14:16 PM CST
SirBiatch: "There are better fantasy books that would make LOTR
by raw_bean
Like what?
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If by oozes confidence, you mean "lacks invention"....yup, you're right. They could probably slap Spidey's face on a pair of underoos and they'd raise interest, and I don't really begrudge them that, it's just not terribly exciting, is all. Don't worry, I promise not to hang my decision on whether or not to see this movie on how bland this poster is.
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I guess it'll leave bypassers antsy to see more of Doc Ock, but it's still the umpteenth variation of a Joe Jusko painting.
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Oct 30, 2003 7:23:13 PM CST
I really want Drew Struzan to illustrate the poster Spidey 2
by mr brownstone
http://www.drewstruzan.com/gallery/?type=mp
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Oct 30, 2003 7:34:40 PM CST
It's easy to have a "confident" poster when your first movie mad
by macflecknoe
Here's a sample from the script I read... Cut from close-up of Tobey to CG spider-man doing something gravity defying back to close-up of Tobey. Repeat throughout movie. Fade out.
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But where's the real poster? What happened to the "original" poster that was released at some geek convention - the one with doc Oc's tentacles swarming everywhere? That one was cool.
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Kirstin has a head?
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Oct 30, 2003 9:41:04 PM CST
I'm being a total geek here, but Ock's arms don't seem to be att
by frankdrebin
As for a villain for SPIDEY 3, I'm a geezer, so I'd like to see the original Vulture kick that snotty teenager's butt. I like that he's just some bored, old guy, and not a mutant or madman or crimminal mastermind. But they already had a flying villain, so he's out. And that scene in THE MUMMY when Imhotep pours himself through a keyhole wasn't all that cool, so the Sandman's out. And the lightning-from-the-fingertips bit was old when it was used in the first episode of STAR TREK, so Electro's out. And after GODZILLA and 3 JURASSIC PARK's, nobody wants to seen a another lizard, so the Lizard's out. I guess by default it's Mysterio.
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Thats the million dollar question that will be answered on July 2nd next year. I just hope that the actors have grown into the roles and expand on what the first movie didnt have to offer.
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Word is the script is good; story is good, reminiscent of some of the best early Spider-man stories. Now that this one seems headed into the "good" column, can those-who-care lend their voices in protest and song to prevent a catastrophe in the upcoming Fantastic Four film? Namely, that somebody had the 40 watt notion that they should save CGI dollars on the Human Torch by giving moviegoers a big hand job. I refer to the insane notion that it's a good idea to rewrite the character so that only his hands can burst into flame. That will basically take one of the most visually original superhero characters and reduce him to an effect you can see by tuning in basic cable to watch an old episode of "Charmed." Or, for that matter, an old Hammer film. There are literally endless examples of schlocky film and TV characters who have been depicted creating flames with their hands. If they do this with the human torch it will, I fear, go hard on them come box office time. And it will make for an absurdly diminished filmgoing experience. Stop them with your opinions now, before it is too late. Or, if you agree, tell them you think it's a good idea so money can be saved on other superhero projects. Iron Man can become Iron Hand for a fraction of the price. The Thing? Why make his whole body rocky when he can be just as effective -- and cheaper -- with rocky hands? Think it doesn't work. Hey,go to a toy store and try out those Hulk hands. It's just as good as having the entire Hulk there. I swear.
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Oct 31, 2003 12:03:36 AM CST
Alfred Molina - Green Helmet + improved SFX and style should sho
by braine
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It looks like a custom "skin" for a video game character.
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It'll take more than a CGI shot of spidey's head to get my panties in a twist for this shitfest.
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Oct 31, 2003 9:50:09 PM CST
Are all the dinks done crapping on the poster and procaliming th
by devil'sown
No? Okay. Bean? (Does Tex Avery wild take) Hey, man! What the heck are you doin' here? Talk to you later.
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I see what you're saying, and it's probably pretty frustrating in your case, but at the end of the day all you can reasonably ask for is a good movie, and I think, at least thematically, the first 'Spider-Man' accomplished that.
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But isn't that damning it with faint praise by saying the best we could hope for is that the cool/crap ratio is about dead even? Sure, the movie got a lot of things right (it came a hell of a lot closer than any of the TV versions) But after the trill of finally seeing the wall crawler get the big screen treatment, it's a bit of a letdown to be left with this slightly compromised version. It's not as though it's going to ruin my life or anything, but I won't exactly be rushing to the theatre when it opens ,either (Sure, I'll go see it , I'll take my kid and we'll have a good time, and then we'll move on to something else.)
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Which may be the whole point... what was so charming about the first movie (and about the comic itself) was Peter Parker the nerd, and Spidey the wise-ass. I hope they don't turn him into a CGI pingpong with no personality... like in the first flick.
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