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Alexander the Great (aka Colin Farrell) astride Bucephalus at full charge! Wonderful shot!
Hey folks, Harry here... See... now this looks fantastic. The key problem I have with those King Arthur images the other day, was that every single shot looked like it came from a lame movie. It just didn't look appealing to me... it did to some of you... fine, great, enjoy... HOWEVER, this looks mythic and awesome. This image conveys power and grandeur in equal doses... and having read Oliver Stone's CONAN THE BARBARIAN script... I know the scale his mind sees battles of this and even more primative eras... I think, Ollie's ALEXANDER is going to kick a lot of teeth in... Every element of the shot is amazing and cool! Thanks goes out to "the red haired brit" for giving us the drop on it!


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Nifty shot
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I hope this movie rocks!
I wonder, will it be somewhat historically accurate?
And "Conan The Barbarian" was nothing like the real Conan, a written by Robert E. Howard, but a lame parody thereof. Conan was no clutz. Just felt I had to point that out. -
Oct 23, 2003 11:37:03 PM CDT
The second shot would have a yellow tint in Kill Bill
by knox_harrington
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Cool Macedonian armor aside, I still like the stills from the Aurthur movie better, if only for the fact that Kiera is the sexiest beanpole tomboy amazon on the planet! ;0)
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What is this? Does anyone care aboot an Alexander the Great movie? Why? Because Gladiator was made? I couldn't understand why anything happened in that stinking pile. Master & Commander, Troy, can SOMEONE make this interesting? It's boring melodrama with characters that run around trying to look important for what reason? Can ANYONE identify with these people? Colin Farrel looks like he's in a Halloween costume for frig's sake. Give me a Roman period drama with a story, not lots of dust and yelling. I'll just watch Conan again.
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What is with Hollywood that we have to see 2 Alexander movies. Can't they think of other stories to tell? How about doing Sulla or Gaius Marius or another interesting character? Instead we have to see both Leo and Collin as the same character within the same year, it seems.
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The main reason it looks great is the fine detail. It's the little stuff the eye picks up in the broad shots that sells it. It draws the attention of the viewer. We've all seen movies where you're embaressed by plain, cheap look of the props. They made tens of thousands of real swords and armor for LOTR, you know that wasn't cheap. You may save money when you cheap it out on props, but everybody notices it and you cheapen your product.
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Kermit is Alexander, and Statler and Waldorf sit in Rome providing commentary. Miss Piggy, Janice, and Winona Ryder play the raped villagers who get overtaken. www.rockithardcore.com
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For the king of Macedonia and the "known world", he's dressed up awfully cheap. True, his helmet is all cool and sculpted but that's about it. First, his breastplate. Historically, it's very accurate, for a common soldier. The real versions of that armor were made from many pieces of treated linen pressed together to make a solid breatsplate. So, you basically have the king of Macedonia wearing cloth fucking armor. Before his time, around say the 400s B.C. it was common for rich men and leaders to wear finely done bronze breastplates often times sculpted meticulously with ornamentation portraying gods and other luck bringing things. Not to mention his cheap tunic and cloak (which would have been held together by a fucking broach rather than tied!) Way to go Ridley, you've dressed the most powerful man on earth like a poor excuse for a farmer/militiaman. Puh-lease!
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Someone should post a link to that crap ass shot that was leaked earlier this week.
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Oct 24, 2003 12:22:14 AM CDT
"The key problem I have with those King Arthur images the other
by magyarman
Great f*cking line, Harry. And I'm not being sarcastic, this line made me laugh like a little bitch.
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Your post brought back memories. I was waiting for you to say what Armor Class (AC) Alexander's armor would've been.
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Dick Hertz:"Saladin wore a very heavy suit in battle and a lighter one when "off duty". "
True but... Does Colin er Alexander look "off duty"?
magyarman: AC 7 actually. If he had gone with the bronze breastplate with Hercules' Knot he would have AC 0 (that's not including the doubtless magical shapechanging tiger helmet) j/k =0) -
Oct 24, 2003 12:30:55 AM CDT
Harry, this is the same director that made "On any given Sunday"
by tarl_cabot
Gladiator was just OK-now we have 3 major sword and sandle epics in the pipeline?
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if you count the new Aurthur movie with it's "Roman" taint.
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no doubt being the big cloud of dust the hundreds/thousands/millions of other horsemen charging with him are providing. =0)
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Actual the armour IS VERY accurate as it is based on a near contempory mosaic of Alex in battle. Bronze breastplates became LESS common with time- not more so! Just about any book on Alex the Great has a picture of this mosaic. Good stuff Mr.Stone!
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I mean, I know Alexander was gay in real life, but that's a bit over the top! .... (joke, people, jeez)
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How do they know it was him in the mosaic? Although I will conced that lighter armor was probably better for staying on a horse.
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I agree that the armour in the Arthurian film is crap. Even if it is set in Sub Roman times (the time of the "Historical" Arthur), Late Roman armour was rather different from the cheesy version of the classical Armour in the pictures. In fact they (Arthur and his Knights) should look more like the Ridders of Rohan!
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Oct 24, 2003 12:45:55 AM CDT
Sorry, but the close-up of "Alexander" reminds me of Kazoo
by ichabodvic
I know alot of planning, skill and effort has gone into the filming/production of this latest Oliver Stone "epic", but Farrell looks like Kazoo from the Flintstones cartoons. Maybe the helmet is historically accurate, but it looks like costume more than armor. And is "Alexander" wearing a long sleeve t-shirt?!
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Good call on the riders of Rohan. That's about the whole of it. And then there's Kiera, whose outfit as far as history is concerned leaves much to be desired. Who is she supposed to be anyways?
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Yes the Helmet IS accurate. The greeks even had Phallus helmets! (now THAT"S gay). We know it's Alex in the mosaic cuz it's a pic of him and he is clearly the central and most important figure.
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You could scarce tell them apart since most served as Rome's army at one time or another.
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That was Richard Thomas' finest hour, perhaps even moreso than "Battle Beyond the Stars"... either of which is undoubtedly superior to either of these two new Alexander movies.
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warm feelings stirring quietly for this movie......
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That blue face rubbish that films since "KEVIN HOOD" seem to want to put on Celts despite the fact that it was gettin old fashoned when Cesaer got to Britain and was certainly not practiced in Christian times (MEL!)
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I'm sorry but it looks gay. accurate or not, it's got a homo erotic vibe.not tha there's anything wrong with that, of course.
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What's with the little feathers?
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The feathers are what surprised me the most. They are quite historical for ancient warfare of that time (not just in Macedonia). To the modern eye though, they might look a bit dorky.
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While I'm complaining about armour- why would Mel be so concerned about accuracy as to make a film in dead languages and then not even bother to look at a book on romans to see what the soldiers looked like???
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seriously, i never read harrys self-serving little intros anymore - so why is the Tick on a horse? anyone...
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That's not Colin! That's George Dubya fightin' on the front lines!
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Oct 24, 2003 1:37:48 AM CDT
Yeah but will their be an almost nekkid Native American "Indian"
by iamlegolas
Well?
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bucephalus sounds like a STD
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well, from the looks of alexander's armor, it looks to be breast plate, wich would give him an armor bonus of 5,and a dex limit of 2. So, lets say alexander's dexterity score is a 15, giving him a dex modifier of 2, with a base ac of 10, I'd say he has around a 17 armorclass, not including what it would be with a succesful ride check, or enchanted gear.
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long live dungeons and dragons!!!! My 25th level elven fighter blade dancer weapon master would kick the shit outta alexander-pansy-helmet anyday!!!
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are you gus referring to dnd 2nd addition, or 3rd?
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WTF is the this beanpole tomboy bullshit I see on every other board. Go bust a nut to Knightley in that soccer movie and give your hairy beanbags a rest. Oliver Stone is a goddamn genius, you twat retreads. Even if he never makes another movie, he made the Doors, and Platoon, and Natural Born, and fucking Pla-fucking-toon, and U-Turn, and J-F-K, and those are ten times better than what Lucas blasts on the screen with his free hand nowadays. Despite Colin Farrell this movie will be decent. Despite all the homophobic audience crap Stone has to wade through this will be good. Did I mention this beanpole, tomboy crap is wearing me thin? Good. And Michael Bay can blow himself. Ah yes, boycott BNAT, you'll spend 24 hours smelling worse than a Magic tournament toilet seat infested with herpes and avoiding the fear of being rejected by a drooling, bibbed-up Knowles.
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I have played all editions of dnd, and 3rd addition is simply the most refined, logical, and customizable of the three versions. it has alot more to offer.
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if the mage doesn't have enough "meat shields" available, he'll get his ass kicked. Perfect tactic for low level mage: hide behind everyone in the back, soak up all the experiance. Sure, everyone will be pissed at you at first, but when your higher level, and your hasting everyone, and dishing out stone skin and meteor swarms, they'll be sucking your cock.
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Gosh, I was down on this because I'm rooting for Baz's version w/ Leonardo, but this is a very beautiful shot. Thanks, Harry, and whoever gave it to you. At first, I was like, "that's Colin?!" It doesn't look like him so much, but now I see that it is, and he looks mighty grand.
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Oh baby...that makes me hot.....that feather.....that comb.....GODDAMN I AM RUNNING WITH THE SEX JUICES....I DO NOT THINK I CAN CONTROL MYSELF....HE LOOKS LIKE ONE SEXY CHICKEN I TELL YA!!!!! ONE VERY HOT SEXY CHICKEN WITH LEG!!!!! UUMMMM BRRRRUUMMMM HOMINA HOMINA HOMINA HOMINA OOOH OOOHHH OOOOHHHH....UUUUNNNNNHH UUUNNNNHHH UUUUNNNNHHHH (schupschupschupschupschupschup) UUUNNNHHH UUUUNNNNHHHH UUUNNNHHH WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!.....whew!....damn.....one sexy chicken.....And thus, I need a tissue! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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Oct 24, 2003 3:47:13 AM CDT
Keira Knightly is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet!
by themaestro
I had to say it before it was gone.
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...but all it makes me think of is Sherman and Mr Peabody's cleaning man
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but what's with the hatred towards the Arthur movie. No friends producing it? And since when was there some kind of structure to giving out pics from the films? Wait till there's a shot of Arthur in full charge, then start making comparisons. Otherwise, don't release pics from the movie you make Harry, or in the spirit of fair play everyone will rip it to shreds.
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...both short, both ambitious, could be a stroke of casting genious
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He looks different
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Excuse my ignorance if this has been said before but the elf banner says will farrell. wtf!?
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Oct 24, 2003 9:12:46 AM CDT
I'm the kind of guy that can complain 'til he's blue in the face
by rev_skarekroe
But you geeks are creeping ME out. sk
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Looks like the fellas from Queer Eye for the Straight Guy are designing this movie. I think it will bomb.
And Stone will try to put some kind of conspiracy theory into the film, like Alexander killed JFK or something. :-P -
Is that Colin's George Dubya face?
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Bucephalus means oxhead
Shame on you Stone. You ruined the movie.
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Are there any FAQ's or anything to help a 1st ed. AD&D'er get the scoop on D&D3.5? I've just started playing Temple of Elemental Evil and I'm having problems adjusting to all the "new" stuff. Stopped buying manuals after Unearthed Arcana and paladins still seem weird to me, so I need a lot of help. When the hell did Gary Gygax get back on board with the D&D franchise, anyway??? *** Oh and Alexander the Great WAS gay (listen for the sound of homophobic stereotypes crumbling). Didn't he drink himself to death after his favorite eunuch died?
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Oct 24, 2003 12:38:33 PM CDT
I'm still hungover, I thought Harry wrote "Colin Farrell astride
by rolling_stone
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You go on a rant about what a "loser" Oliver Stone is, and then get into a heated D&D discussion about "mages", "magic" and "meat shields"? What the hell is a "meat shield"???
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I'm guessing here, but I think a "meat shield" is what you'd call some poor unfortunate bastard between you and certain death. A shield made of meat. Heh-heh. Cute term. And now...onto Alexander. I bought a great book by John Warry a couple of years back about ancient warfare. The name escapes me, I'll have to look at it again ( I'm at work right now ) but I seem to remember helmets with feathers adorning them just like the one ol' Collin is wearing. What hath Ridley Scott wrought? Lots of great Sword and Sandal Flicks in the pipeline! Somebody wake up Steve Reeves! And hurry up and fix Kal-ee-fohnia Arnie! We need you in "King Conan!" With Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa ( hope I got that name right ) as Subotai the Mongol! C'mon, you KNOW I'm right about that!
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Oct 24, 2003 2:06:11 PM CDT
Man, great pics Harry, this pic looks way better than the gay as
by lost skeleton
Alexander looks great here but looks really gay over at CHUD.
And yes, I have seen the Revolutions diaster headline and NO...I am not reading any Revolutions reviews or spoilers until November 5th!
And Harry, I still think you are way wrong about King Arthur! I think both of these films will be great epics. -
I hope that both Alexander films don't skimp on the homosexuality...*drool* ...Don't mind me, I'm a single, horny woman! And you D&D people are NEEEERRRRRRRDDDSSS!!! (I mean that in the best possible way, of course...)
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I'm glad to see they put proper cavalry helmets - basically metal versions of a Greek horseman's felt hat - on those other guys, instead of just sticking Corinthian helmets or something on them.
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Oct 24, 2003 6:16:16 PM CDT
I think Stone should make Wall Street II with Hulk Hogan as Gord
by lord shatner
"I gave you your manhood, brother"
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who gives a shit about this movie? what, there's 3 or 4 alexander films being made right now? couldn't care less. have the horse rape farrell like the pretty boy hooer he is and i'll throw a party.
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Oct 24, 2003 6:17:47 PM CDT
Dickhertz, higher AC is better with 3rd ed cuz they did away wit
by empyreal0
Not that it made the game any simpler. They've got a half-million rules for a half million situations, too many skills and feats to bother keeping track of (and an open system to make it worse), and as a DM you either have to be an encyclopedia or pretty much bullshit the numbers. so... Anyone remember the cartoon?
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Props to all my 1st Edition Talkbackers. I don't like the helmet; yeah, it's probably historically accurate, but it's still more 'Roman' in terms of people's idea of what a helmet should look like. Personally, I don't understand the point of an Alexander film (let alone two)... there's no real underlying drama to the story, he just fights and kills and gets blessed as Zeus and fights and kills and loses and goes back and dies; there are no dead wives to avenge or eagles to scream for (or psycho mothers to avoid) or even a fifth brother to grab from the Persian front lines because his other four brothers died in the war. I doubt I'll be seeing either in the theatre. Now a Thermopylae flick WOULD KICK ASS.
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I've got hope for this flick. Not just because my name is like his, but I just think Alexander is so fucking awesome. The guy almost took the entire world. Anyway the pic looks okay. Although, shouldn't the horse be wearing some armor. Plus Farrels costume looks all right. Not great. I just hope this thing beats Baz's Alexander. I mean really, Leo as Alexander. The guy still looks like he is hitting puberty. What everyone should do is make a movie out of Reign The Conqueror. That anime should be seen by some of the suits working on the movie. That anime kicked fuckn' ass! Later.
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..awesome. Too bad it's Oliver Stone directing.
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I agree chrth. A thermopylae movie would kick ass. Speaking of which, does anyone know anything about where Gates of Fire is at this point? I know that the book got optioned and at some point there was a script with George Clooney attached to the whole thing but that's the last I'd heard. That movie needs to be made, really. Anyone agree?
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Why have one feather, when you can have TWO!?
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FUCK YOU AND YOUR NASTY 80 YEAR OLD MAGGOTY HAG ROTTEN PUSSY YOU DILDO HUMPING PILE OF MOLESTED INCEST FATHER FUCKING EXCREMENT.
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That is very well researched.
Alexander wore a Greek helmet that was molded like a Lion's head, bearing a red, horse-hair crest and two plumes of ostrich feathers.
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Although that U Turn movie he made was pretty bad. But he is almost always interesting and I think this film will be entertaining at the very least.
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"...You know, I used to feel that way too until I found out that Alexander the Great was a fag. Talk about gays in the military!"
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not the helmet, the feeling exuding from the project.
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'to crush yer enemies,see them driven before you,and to hear the lamentations of their women,brother!'
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Oct 25, 2003 12:09:53 PM CDT
Dick Hertz: Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. I'll go watch PLATOON while you r
by mosquito march
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But what can you expect from a man who thinks swearing makes him cool. Twat.
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the shots looks great, can't wait. By the way I'm watching MAD Max of my DVD now.
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I'm well aware that Stone exaggerates in his films, AS DO ALL FILMMAKERS. But, how can you automatically assume that the authors you just mentioned are telling you the truth? If YOU were involved in the Kennedy assassination, would YOU fess up? Probably not. Sounds like you take these peoples' word for it simply because THEY don't like Stone, and YOU don't like Stone. And, how can we take YOU seriously when you assert initially that more American troops died in the movie PLATOON than died in the actual war? Sounds like you like to do a little exaggerating to prove your points, too, Dick. Regarding Vietnam - Stone went to Vietnam. You and me didn't. Because of that, I'll take Stone's word over mine or yours. And, regarding JFK - maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall Oliver Stone ever saying "This is the god's honest truth about what happened to Kennedy." I think his detractors put those words in his mouth so they could keep on detracting. I think Stone saw that people wanted answers about the assassination, and when the government refused to talk about it, he rolled all the conspiracy theories that were already out there into a Frankenstein's Monster of an assassination plot (a concept that Chris Carter used in creating THE X-FILES, which nobody bitched about). Oliver Stone was not even the first filmmaker to speculate on the Kennedy assassination, and I think it's naive as hell to see that film and walk out of it thinking that Oliver Stone was trying to tell you The Truth. If JFK were billed as a documentary, I'd hear you. But, it's not - it's a movie. It's a piece of entertainment. Whether it entertains you or not, only a fool would walk into the theater expecting a movie maker to tell the absolute truth about anything. Is Stone heavy-handed with his messages? Yeah. Is he a snake-oil salesman? Sure. So is every other filmmaker out there. ALL storytelling is manipulation, and every director wants you to see his or her point of view. Or, just fuck with you and make you think about what he's just showed you. What I will gladly give Oliver Stone in a heartbeat is that he can really piss guys like you off, and if he manages to do that, he's obviously pretty effective at what he does. He can make you run out and read books about the subjects of his films, and get you debating them when you're not too busy being Dungeon Master. Even you must admit that, as a *provocateur*, the guy knows what he's doing. After all, you obviously go see his movies.
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you make some fine points and all, but quit slamming on dnd and shut the fuck up already. dnd is just another fucking hobby, and I don't think people should be branded "nerds" because they play it every now and then. its basically a bunch of people just chillin, eatin snacks, clowing on each other, and havin a good time rollin dice. what the fuck does everyone else do for a hobby thats so "cool" that it does not brand them "nerd". I go to parties, work out, read, watch movies, play video games, play dnd. there aint much else to do in arizona.
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He's blonde in the movie, right? Where did they get this? I know he's supposed to be from 'northern Greece' but still every Greek I have seen has had black hair.
As far as the feathers, yes accurate except for the type of feathers! Should be longer I think.
Saladin's warriors centuries later kept the side feather holders, when the "Iksander' legend was still strong. The Ottomans maintained the style. I have seen beautiful examples in the Askari Museum in Istanbul.
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Geez, what did I say to deserve that??? Was it my "nerd" comment? Hey, I LIKE nerds! I'm a nerd! Most of my nerd friends play D&D! MY REMARKS WERE INTENDED TO BE HUMOROUSLY AFFECTIONATE!!! No need to lash out, for Christ's sake!
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