Oct. 21, 2003, 7:03 a.m. CST
Oct. 21, 2003, 7:05 a.m. CST
First? Second? What the hell. Homicide was terrible, nowhere near as good as that review, and the review was sub-par
Oct. 21, 2003, 7:11 a.m. CST
by Andy Travis
Sorry to be so negative, but we've become pretty jaded as far as DVD extras go. Just sit back and enjoy what there is. It's Indy! Now if you excuse me, I'm gonna turn up the sound system and rattle the walls to THE GREATEST MONKEY DEATH SCENE EVER!
Oct. 21, 2003, 7:20 a.m. CST
Because it's too early to do anything but leave us writhing in frustration, and I don't want a trailer for a film which they then fail to make (and I won't believe in Indy 4 until the credits roll on teh opening night). Can't wait for this to arrive from Amazon - damn my strategy in ordering it together with TTT!
Oct. 21, 2003, 7:33 a.m. CST
As much as i love the Indiana Jones films, I don't think they should make a fourth one. Three's the magic number, always has been. Way too much time has passed. The original 3 were all made within 3-5 years and it's been 15 since the last one. Look at Harrison on the bonus dvd. He looks and sounds like a zombie, do you really think he's up to been thrown about and punched and riding a horse etc. He would just look laughable, like Roger Moore in A View To a Kill. The Last crusade was a decent end to the Indy series, they all ride into the sunset, the last crusade for the grail and the last crusade for Indiana Jones. Don't piss on the series and leave a bad taste in my mouth. A fourth Indy film is as unnessessary as Back to the Future 4 or Godfather prt 4. Don't do it guys, we'll all regret it...RANT ENDS
Oct. 21, 2003, 7:50 a.m. CST
by Cash Bailey
Especially when Indy drinks the blood, you don't doubt for a second he'd kill Short Round and any other fucker he can get his hands on. An amazing performance by Ford. Easily his deepest, most introspective performance as Indy. That movie always freaked me out, but in retrospect only now do I realise how cruel and utterly bad-ass it is. No wonder Ol' Steve hates it.
Oct. 21, 2003, 8:02 a.m. CST
...and hopefully this DVD release will inspire more people to watchit again. Whenever anyone says they hate Temple, inevitably it's because they haven't watched it since the 80's. It was ahead of its time, brilliant filmaking. Speilberg's second best film, behind Jaws.
Oct. 21, 2003, 8:07 a.m. CST
If you haven't seen Temple of Doom since you were a kid, go back and rewatch, and relearn. Temple was my least favorite for a long time, then I rewatched it when I hit my mid-20s. That's when the beauty and weight of the film finally came into focus. I realized, like Empire, Temple of Doom is the dark and glorious movie the director *wanted* to make the first time around, but wasn't allowed to by the studios. Then, when the dumb masses (say it fast) complained that it was too dark and not enough like the first one, the studios got involved again, and like Jedi, the third installment was a sad shadow of the original. Temple of Doom has the power of Speilberg's more "serious" films like Shindler's List and Saving Private Ryan combined with the character development and jaw dropping set pieces of Jaws. Do yourself a favor and watch it again before you flame me... Indy vs. an ultimate elemental evil, not just stereotyped Nazis, a female companion that's an opposing force to his character rather than a Minnie Mouse to his Mickey. (i.e same character with a skirt.) Temple is the closest I've ever seen to the perfect action adventure movie. (With the possible exception of the 1933 King Kong... which is really more "Monster Movie" than strictly action adventure, but I digress.) Watch an Indy marathon and you'll agree, like the Star Wars trilogy, the sophomore installment is the superior film.
Oct. 21, 2003, 8:31 a.m. CST
Hell, the one trailer that was left off the DVD set was the teaser for TEMPLE OF DOOM, which I have in my personal 35mm collection... They could easily match the TOD trailer now, even though no film has been shot and the final script isn't ready... Anybody remember the TOD teaser? All it is is the Raiders March and a narrator saying the locations for the movie as the red line/airplane thingy runs all over the globe. Then it says the title: Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, then has the footage from Raiders of Indy at Marion's bar. "Trust me." They could do that now... they'd just need the title. But I digress... it was cool hearing Williams talk about wanting badly to do Indy 4 so he can revisit the material... Cool set. Can't wait to take a more complete look at it in the next few days.
Oct. 21, 2003, 8:55 a.m. CST
Was the concern that I would open the DVD container, bright light would bathe my face, and my head would melt as I cried out: "IT'S BEEEE-YOOO-TEE-FULLLLL!!!"
Oct. 21, 2003, 9:03 a.m. CST
Getting the discs out.HAS ANY OF YOU MUTHERFUCKAS TRIED IT??? impossible.Series 2 is only
Oct. 21, 2003, 9:26 a.m. CST
since they took out the plate of glass from the well of souls scene...shouldn't we call this the indy jones special edition?!?!?!
Oct. 21, 2003, 9:39 a.m. CST
Marion absolutely rocks, one of the main reasons Raiders deserves its place of honor is the inclusion of one of the best female characters in an action/adventure movie, ever. Capshaw is just an annoyance. And I'm curious to see TOD again, I remember it as a decent movie but not a great one (Capshaw alone nearly wrecks it, you're practically rooting for her to fall to her death, Jar Jar style). And I'm not getting my hopes up about Last Crusade, it was fun watching Connery with Ford, but Steve and George just phoned that one in. And just for the record, I'd love to see twelve hours of extras, Raiders is one of the rare movies that deserves it.
Oct. 21, 2003, 9:41 a.m. CST
It's not on there, so the fanboys will whine, despite the fact that no footage has been shot yet. However, back when the Jurassic Park dvd came out, there was a teaser for JP3, when no footage had been shot yet, and the fanboy whined because it was a lousy teaser with no footage from the movie. Which the Indy 4 trailer would have been. Because no footage has been shot yet. The only people who'd gripe about its omission are the same ones who'd have griped about its inclusion.
Oct. 21, 2003, 9:56 a.m. CST
Cool. I thought the only people in the world that dug that show were me, my mom, and George Lucas. And maybe George Lucas's mom. sk
Oct. 21, 2003, 10:15 a.m. CST
It's a bummer that these aren't available as seperate discs becasue I would LOVE to have Raiders. I quess I'm in the Temple is ok camp but I think Last Crusade is horrible. i didn't like it when it came out and I don't like it now. So I have to buy a 4 disc set to get one movie I adore, 1 movie I could take or leave, 1 movie I'll never watch again and 1 disc or dissapointing supplements?? Can someone recommend which version of Raiders I should seek out on Laserdisc?
Oct. 21, 2003, 10:20 a.m. CST
Was it the Nazi Castle? The Venitian Library/crypt? The Tank? The Grail Tomb? Surely not the Zeppelin! Seriously, what did you think was the most worthy set piece in Last Crusade? At least put it in parentheses so I'm not waiting for the other shoe to drop!
Oct. 21, 2003, 10:55 a.m. CST
It was reported somewhere that the reason Season 3 took so long to come out on DVD was that Groening and the other crew were so busy that they didn't have time to record their commentaries. Quality first.
Oct. 21, 2003, 11:23 a.m. CST
I think if you actually read the rest of the article it becomes pretty obvious that the set piece he's talking about is the opening sequence with River Phoenix.
Oct. 21, 2003, 12:13 p.m. CST
the indy-films were the reason i started to love movies. they were the key films. and i was 13 when i watched them on tv! i always can`t decide what film i like most. and now and here i have to say it: LAST CRUSADE ROCKS!! well...of course it depends on our taste and maybe it`s because i always watched the german synchro version and i had another backround watching that flick. whatsoever...let
Oct. 21, 2003, 4 p.m. CST
I don't think that's obvious because a sequence and a set piece are two different things. The train set wasn't too bad, but he never got back to it. I think if you'd actually read the whole thing, you'd know that too.
Oct. 21, 2003, 4:57 p.m. CST
First I can't bring up this trilogy without referencing the Star Wars Trilogy. They are just too connected. Both start out with a straight forward adventure story followed by a darker, almost horror story, then bounce back with a lighter, funnier (sometimes goofy) finale. But I remember being a kid in the 80's and everyone loved the third ones for being more "fun" than the darker, depressing middle chapters. Of course now we value the darker tales. But what I love about both Indiana Jones and Star Wars is that it was the first time I had seen heroes that suffered, lost, and screwed up. Most of the other films of that time showed us that the good guys always won and were rewarded. The beauty of these movies and the lesson we can take from them about heroism in real life is summed up in Moriarty's favorite sequence where Young Indiana gets his hat "You lost today kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it." Those movies taught us that trying to do the right thing in the world will often bring you a world of hurt. You'll get dragged by a truck, beaten, maybe even have your hand cut off and suffer several losses, but that doesn't mean you have to accept defeat and stop trying to do the right thing. God I love these flicks!
Oct. 21, 2003, 5:12 p.m. CST
You're kidding, right? Oh and speaking of Schindler's List I certainly hope they bring it out on DVD in 2004.
Oct. 21, 2003, 5:55 p.m. CST
but I don't see how people could put it above Raiders. Raiders of the Lost Ark is pure perfect filmmaking.
Oct. 21, 2003, 6:10 p.m. CST
by Cap'n Chaos!
When they actually do some work on Indy four and it's guaranteed to be made, then I'll be looking for the trailer. Personally, Temple used to be my favorite if the three simply because it was so different and so mean. When I was a kid, I loved it. Then I went through something of a period of estrangement with it and now I like it again. The big turning point on ToD for me was seeing a widescreen presentation on Sci-Fi. For someone who hadn't gotten to see them in the original theatrical run, the cinematrography is incredible when you finally get to see the whole thing. The lack of extras on the set is surprising, but just having the three with great transfers is all I really care about. I rarely have time for bonus material anyway nowdays. Unless it's something truly special like the Menace doc, the Cannibal commentary (which is way better than the movie) or the Spiderman outtake from X-Men I usually just watch the movie again. For some reason I will pour over everything on a Kevin Smith disc, though. The View Askew people know how to put together a disc.
Oct. 21, 2003, 6:14 p.m. CST
I like Temple of Doom, better than Last Crusade. Yes it was dark, which is what made it cool. Kind of like Empire compared to New Hope and Jedi. Sure, Capshaw is annoying, but Short Round makes up for it. The look, the suspense of the film is great. The scene right before Indy cuts the rope bridge-genious. The opening sequence where they hide behind the gong while the bad guys fire away-cool. But Raiders is the best, probably the best action film ever.
Oct. 21, 2003, 7:26 p.m. CST
by Carson Dyle
The 1st season came out about two years ago... and that's it. What gives?
Oct. 21, 2003, 7:49 p.m. CST
Temple of Doom is a steaming pile and Last Crusade is even worse. Just Raiders please... release it on its own.
Oct. 21, 2003, 8:53 p.m. CST
What about the rumored footage of Barbara Streisand in a dominatrix outfit whipping Harrison Ford on the set of Temple of Doom, as a result of one big gag? I've heard that it was filmed, is it on the box set anywhere? Or as a hidden easter egg?
Oct. 21, 2003, 9:07 p.m. CST
Just watched series 2 of the office on dvd. Better in every way than the first. It seems there is some benefit to living in the UK after all. Moriarty if you have a multi-region player and i see you in december i'll bring you a copy.
Oct. 21, 2003, 9:17 p.m. CST
I swear there are hundreds of people who are hard core Star Trek fans that rock out to that Star Trek band Warp 11 out in California. The band was filmed for Trekkies 2. When people see the film they will see how much fun some hard core trek fans can have. nuff said.
Oct. 21, 2003, 10 p.m. CST
Okay, I know all about how it's considered chic these days to think cool stuff is bad and bad stuff is cool, though come on kids; Temple of Doom is and always will be the WORST of the Indiana Jones films. Here's half a dozen (of many) reasons why: 1) the whole story of a
Oct. 21, 2003, 11:44 p.m. CST
People will probably make an eloquent case for why there should have been, but I don't think promotional tie-ins belong on DVDs, especially landmark ones such as this. Then again, there's just gonna be a "Quadrilogy" box set released after the fact, but this is a fairly comprehensive look back at the Original Trilogy, if that makes sense. Plus, they'll have trailers on the Indy IV DVD anyway
Oct. 21, 2003, 11:55 p.m. CST
Point Break is an excellent film, certainly one of the best actioneers of the 90s, and definitely the best of Keanu's career, well, aside from "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure." Reeves was cool, Busey was cool, Swayze was ultra cool, and come on, guys, Lori Petty... with the short black hair... You gotta love Point Break.
Oct. 22, 2003, 12:09 a.m. CST
by The Ghost of Scrappy Doo
...it was one of the first videotapes marketed for purchase in the 1980's as opposed to rental, back when all videos in the USA were priced at anywhere from $59.99 to over a hundred dollars. So in that context it doesn't seem so bad to fork over $45 (discount price at Best Buy for the five disk version) and finally get Raiders on DVD. Now if only we can find a way to force Lucas the Hut to release the TRUE "Solo shot Greedo first" version of Star wars on DVD....
Oct. 22, 2003, 3:19 a.m. CST
Sounds like one of those "When animals go bad" shows -- only funnier.
Oct. 22, 2003, 4:17 a.m. CST
by Acne Scarface
i attended alhambra high school in california during the first semester of my freshman year. ke huy kwan, whose english name is johnathan methinks, was in the same math class. didn't really fraternize with him. one day, when our classroom door opened 2 let us in, he told me 2 go in first. now worship me. WORSHIP ME!
Oct. 22, 2003, 5:26 a.m. CST
I only came to see the office midway through its first season after hearing a load of hoopla about it. its a weird off the wall type comdey but dam if it dont just work!! its so funny and i couldn't wait to see the second series which was just as good and you get to see David Brent in a different light as he is competing for his job. The only bad news was the fact that it was annnounced that there will be no third season but then again i guess you can only take this series so far before it would end up repeating itself or gets less funny ala the later series of red dwarf compared to the early series. The only ight on the horizon is that they are making a two-parter x-mas special (so we are told) to tie up loose ends.
Oct. 22, 2003, 6:15 a.m. CST
That's it folks.....not necessarily the three "best" movies of all-time, but the three most ground-breaking, original-for-their-time, innovative landmarks in cinema history.
Oct. 22, 2003, 9:18 a.m. CST
I just don't get it. Moriarty, why make such a song and dance about this DVD release, when you basically go on to say that you used to think Temple was shite, now you think it's a wee bit better, and you used to think Crusade was good, now you think it's a bit shite. So basically both are pretty ropey, Raiders is the only true truimph, and yet still this DVD release is a success. I just don't get it....
Oct. 22, 2003, 9:18 a.m. CST
...but the Fry's Electronics store by my house had the box set for $34.99. Couldn't pass that price up. I did have to make an additional trip to Best Buy to pick up "CA: Full Throttle" since Fry's hadn't received it yet. (Mock me all you want, but that movie is cotton candy, pure goofy fun). Now, it's not that I hate Crusade or Temple, it's just that I can watch Raiders over and over, and i'm not sure I'll do that with the other two. I'm not a big viewer of most of the crap that makes up DVD extras, but I'd watch well done stuff on this trilogy. Wish they could have included that recreation of Raiders those kids did, that would have been cool. (And I'll agree with the other poster that Kevin Smith discs are always chock full of good extras).
Oct. 22, 2003, 9:39 a.m. CST
watched the Raiders dvd last night. its like a brand new film. crisp, clean, bright. it looks magnificent. it'd been so long i'd forgotten what it looked like other than vhs. HOWEVER, whereas they took out the reflection of the cobra that gets in Indy's grill, they left in alot of the other snake reflections. most noteably when Marion first sees the Cobra. what's wierd is, i don't think i noticed that one on VHS, only on the cleaned up print. so i wonder why they didn't bother to clean that up too... it just seems kind of sloppy. but, hell, i'm just glad Lucas didn't replace all the Nazis with flashlights or some stupid shit like that.
Oct. 22, 2003, 12:37 p.m. CST
Look, I realize that Temple of Doom has its moments of lark and whimsy, like the inflatable falling raft or the "glowing rocks". But then what the hell is the haunted Ark filled with ghosts in Raiders? Or the whole "Cup of Life" end sequence in Last Crusade? Why the hell is that so much more believeable? It's all mythos and schlock, but it's the way in which it's directed that makes us care and believe. I care about the IJ character so much that I can reasonably accept some of this. I happen to dig 'Temple' cuz some dude gets his heart ripped out of his chest and that bald, villian dude is creepy and Kate Capshaw, though annoying, is a juicy piece of ass. So stop bagging on it. Sure, it's fluff, but all three are fluff. In their own way. P.S. Boycott BNAT, Harry's an elitist.
Oct. 22, 2003, 1:02 p.m. CST
I only got Season 2 so far, 'cause they're just a bit pricey. But I've watched about a half-dozen episodes so far and they're just as great and laugh-out-loud funny as ever. Also, while it seems that most full season set contain 22-25 episodes, this one is 32! (I guess they produced more shows per season back then). And I like the precident which this sets of releasing for than one full season at the same time, so we have the choice of buying both, or just one (I'll get Season 1, hopefully soon). Now someone please relase season sets of "The Odd Couple" already! But in the meanwhile... "Dick Van Dyke"... DVD!!! Come on, it was a natural.
Oct. 22, 2003, 2:04 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
You expressed the sentiments of many of us. Good job.
Oct. 22, 2003, 2:38 p.m. CST
yes, i bought the Indiana Jones boxset yesterday and watched the first two. man, it was a awesome experience to watch these in it's restored glory. i was floored with just how beautiful and unflawed these movies looked. kudos to the peeps who worked on these films, they did a great job. they deserve a raise. i purposely put off watching Last Crusade until today (because it's not my favorite--- maybe the tank fight scene is all i'll watch). Raiders was cool, but i think Temple was the best. At least the last 45 minutes made me sit at the edge of my beanbag and laugh and listen to the minecar chase at full blast. Raiders didn't have a loud scene where it didn't test my home theatre system. Plus, "dark" movies rule anyway. and i can't wait when Episode Three when we see Anakin with long hair and gets pulled to the dark side and becomes Darth Vader. For a pic of a dark Anakin, check out the new Star Wars Magazine y'all. Very chilling to say the least, to see that lil kid we grew to despise and hate in Phantom, has become the evil Vader. i hope Lucas does this film it's due justice and make it as dark and sad as possible. more scenes of natalie showing some skin at least... well i think i've said my piece. i'm going back to watch the new Rush In Rio Dvd i picked up yesterday. cool concert flick and Neil Peart rules!!!
Oct. 22, 2003, 7:27 p.m. CST
I completely agree that Homicide is a "schizo" movie. The best parts of this film are the parts that aim to deconstruct the typical copy buddy film. You can tell that Ron Shelton was aiming to show a more realistic, funny approach to the standard cop flick (similar to how Tin Cup and Bull Durham tear apart the standard sports flick to let the goofy reality shine thru). Yet, he never pulled it apart enough. We're still stuck with the too much standard cop buddy crap - like the whole last half hour. Wish they just spent more time polishing the script. It could have been a great film and one of Harrison's best roles in years (he still looks pretty damn in good in this inevitably warmed over film).
Oct. 22, 2003, 9:57 p.m. CST
by Hung-Wei Lo
So let's leave it at that. I was a kid when this came out, and I enjoyed all of his quips. I still enjoy listening to his banter as I watched it today. Granted, TOD is still the worst of the three, but I'll take this "worst" over, say, Godfather III, or Alien 3, or...you get the idea. TOD is not perfect, but I also think that it is above average. And Last Crusade is on par with TOD in my opinion. Raiders, on the other hand, is in the small classic league of perfect films. Long live Short Round!
Oct. 23, 2003, 3:02 a.m. CST
by Mosquito March
I just wish its creative team would quit apologizing for something that needs no apology. Even if you like TEMPLE the least in the trilogy, it's still miles and miles and miles above average entertainment. And, people who complain about Kate Capshaw need to cool it. If they'd made a tomboyish clone of Marion, people would complain about THAT, too. I think one of the greatest sequences - comedic or otherwise - that Spielberg ever devised was the bedroom sequence from TEMPLE. Every time I watch that film - which is more often than the other two, though I love them intenseley - I rewind that scene multiple times. The timing and acting and especially the music came together so beautifully. It's a classic screwball love scene that even manages to incorporate mortal danger without compromising the humor. If I ever met Steven Spielberg, that sequence would be the first thing I'd talk to him about.
Oct. 23, 2003, 3:20 a.m. CST
by Mosquito March
TEMPLE was filled with darkness, including Indy's first impulse - to use the Sankara Stones for his own purposes. Shorty is the only non-self-involved character in the entire film, and that's exactly why he's in there. Shorty doesn't just get the most memorable lines in the movie - he is the moral center of TEMPLE, he's its inherent humanity, and his unconditional love for Indy is what ultimately saves everyone from Mola Ram's power. Shorty was also living a wish of mine, as a kid - to go on an adventure with Indiana Jones, who became my childhood idol after my dad took me to see RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK in '81. I loved the Indy movies even more than STAR WARS. Since I wasn't yet old enough to be Indy, I wanted to be Short Round. My friends who grew up during the same period have all said the same thing.
Oct. 23, 2003, 2:33 p.m. CST
by Mosquito March
I've always loved TEMPLE the most. And, as far as you or I know, so has everyone in this talkback who's stated that it's his or her favorite. Not everybody buys into the seemingly institutionalized hatred of TEMPLE OF DOOM.
Oct. 23, 2003, 9:28 p.m. CST
by Mosquito March
You may not see it in your own writing, but your comments about TEMPLE are almost universally derisive. You even told us how "bored" your parents said you were when you saw it as a kid. I mean, what the fuck is that saying? Doesn't sound like you like it, man. And, you tagged all that onto a slam against people who said they love the movie, accusing them of being the same people who had been bashing the movie for 20 years. Don't be shocked if your opinion isn't interpreted in the way you expect.
Oct. 23, 2003, 9:32 p.m. CST
by Mosquito March
Don't you see the irony in bashing the alleged TOD bashers, and then turning around and using a phrase like "worst in the series"?
Oct. 24, 2003, 12:02 a.m. CST
by bava's ghost
Just a little constructive criticism... you kicked off your dvd column a few weeks back with hopes of making it a one-stop info center for all things dvd. Great, I for one am thrilled to have someone with common interests and more resources wade through the ever growing weekly pile of discs. But since you've started this column, Treasure of the Sierra Madre has come out on dvd...finally. You made small mention of it's release date, but little else. I would argue this is one of the absolute best releases this year in terms of film quality and the package of extras that were included. But i don't have to argue that the film is one of the cornerstones of American cinema and deserves a close look on any dvd review column, that is a fact.
Oct. 24, 2003, 5:21 p.m. CST
First, let me say that if you want to see some great behind-the-scenes stuff, get the Great Movie Stunts and The Making of Raiders of the Lost Ark videotape. It took me years as a child before I accidentally let the tape play past the Great Movie Stunts credits to actually realize that there was another, much better, more in-depth documentary called The Making of Raiders immediately afterwards. I sat there the first time and was mesmerized by how much behind the scenes footage there was. Outside of Heart of Darkness, it's probably the best making-of film I've ever seen because it doesn't really have a POV, it just shows you a lot of behind the scenes stuff and a very limited number of interviews. Really great stuff... if that doesn't make you want to go out and make a film, I don't know what will. Back to the dvd's... I HATE how Spielberg tries to disown TOD, and constantly talks about it as if he was forced to jerk Lucas off for a year after the divorce from Marcia"Like Amy Irving, I disapprove of the films my husband does as childish immature crap, and yet I still found reason to marry him" Lucas. And that's not saying I don't disapprove of Lucas and Spielberg lately either, but the condescending way that Marcia Griffin and Amy Irving talked about their men even while they were married to them makes me sick. It was as if they were screaming "Marty! Francis! Hell, even Paul Schraeder! Please give me work on one of your films so I can be taken seriously!" Guess they didn't realize they should have been bedding Warren Beatty or Hal Ashby if that's what they wanted. Although Marcia did get to help out editing Taxi Driver, and I believe she got work on New York, New York. ANYWHO... The whole thing about changing the title is the dumbest thing I can think of to get upset over. And Alexandra Dupont is right about that Behind-the-scenes footage of Kate Capshaw making bedroom eyes at Spielberg during filming. Spielberg looks like a deer caught in headlights who simultaneously has sprung a boner. How he actually finished the day's shooting... or even the film for that matter, knowing that she wanted to mount his Paramount logo is anyone's guess. This alone makes him a great director...
Oct. 26, 2003, 5:04 a.m. CST
Hulk Hogan should play a nazi in Indy 4. "Der Amerikaner, er k