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DAWN OF THE DEAD remake trailer hits online
Hey folks, Harry here with a remake that... well, I liked the script... like the first half of this trailer, but then... I hate fast moving zombies. I'm sorry, they don't move like reanimated corpses. Now some people may say, "How do you know what a reanimated corpse moves like?" and my answer is, "Have you ever been to an old folks home?" Anyway... Old folks homes can be really scary. They can't move fast, but they have access to wheelchairs and they're behind every door. If suddenly that satellite went wonky in space and they turned zombie... You'd be old people lunch. Personally, I want to see Homer Simpson and family at the Simpson Old Folks Home, when suddenly they all go zombie. Yeah, That'd be fun. And AUTO could be like Ash... and Groundskeeper Willie could bring in the lawnmower and do some Peter Jackson zombie mowing. And I would be a happy boy. Oh yeah, back to DAWN OF THE DEAD... I like the font....
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And STOP this heretical remake at once!
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Followed by the complete lack of negative reviews, followed by the sudden news of a Harry cameo.
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Don't you mean Otto, you dumb fuck?
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Now you're scaring me...
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this looks amazingly turgid. And yeah, I'm a bit biased because DotD is my all-time favorite horror movie. But let's go through the checklist first: Hot young teens making out? Check. Car crashes? Check. Running zombies (since the slow-moving ones are boring and not frightening at all)? Check. I might have missed more, but all I could see was my anger manifesting itself as a cloud directly in front of me, partially obstructing my vision. I'm worried that the Chainsaw remake might piss me off (reviews seem pretty divided at this point), but I'll see it anyway and at the very least I can understand how that movie might turn out to be not-all-that-bad. With the Dawn of the Dead remake, I'm still not convinced that they're trying to do anything else besides kill one of the greatest horror movies ever made and piss on its grave while doing a crazy old coot dance on top of it. I don't WANT to hate this movie but the burden of proof is on THEM to convince me I won't be seeing a hacked up, oversexed, cinematically ignorant version of a modern classic. That's not what I want!
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I watched the trailer, and noticed a familiar face, when they're flashing the newsclips. You see one Tom Savini in police garb. Awesome, even if he didn't have much to do with the flick, at least he got a cameo. I still wanna see this.
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...as long as they stay away from too much CGI and get great make-up, who knows? Nothing's gonna match the original, of course, but this could be OK.
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maybe too good: what is sarah polley doing in this movie? is she gonna end up with ving "that's pride fuckin' with ya" rhames? or is he actually gonna blow his brains out at the end of the film? sheesh!
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The horror genre is in the middle of the push it has needed, forever. I am on board. This looks like the shit, foo.
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This crapfest will suck decaying dicks. Is it so hard to get a fucking zombie move the right way (i.e. real slooowwww)? And whatever happened to the eerie pulse of the original Goblin soundtrack? I hope they all rot in hell
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Afterall the Zombies are supposed to be the walking dead, not the fucking running dead. While their at why dont the zombies just pick up some guns or whatever. Hey lets totally ruin the Zombie conect!
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This movie doesnt look too crash hot, sure it looks more up to date but the original is a masterpiece. The dreary 70's atmosphere, the eerie soundtrack, the slow moving zombies. THIS remake looks too polished and mainstream, and quite simple the cast doesnt excite me at all. How many people live in the mall there now too - like 10 or so? Agh might be worth a look on rental but no way will this ever be better than the original. And ALSO - Why the fuck is Tom Savini playing HIMSELF as sheriff? They could have at least changed the name of the character, cos right now that fucking retarded.
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Does Stacy "I don't like horror movies unless they have big stars in them" Snider know about this?
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What have they done? Why do companies insist on remaking films that don't need to be remade. Zombies don't run for fucks sake. They dawdle, that's where the tension lies. It looks like my favourite horror film of all time has been bastardised beyond belief.....probably still watch it though.
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...we get shots of the world being overrun, a la 28 Days Later, we get two black male leads, thus avoiding the token black dude effect, the pregnant lady dies, and her unborn baby claws its way out of the womb, from the looks of it... and the zombies are awfully damn spry... and there's a really cute redhead... and this doesn't look bad at all... 'cept those damn spry zombies... I dunno... seems to me they're creepier when they shamble, with that nightmarish slow-motion suspense of inevitability, where you know they ARE going to reach you, in their own undead time, and surround you, overwhelm you, and slowly eat you alive. Heh. 'Course you could make a case that being faster, they're more lethal, and thus more terrifying... Anyway, I liked that shot of the dead pregnant lady towards the end, with those filmy, lifeless eyes, just before she reanimates. Eh, I might see this in the theater, despite misgivings about funding remakes...
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zombies ramble, they shuffle, they plod, and sometimes they just hang and sway to the rythym of the world. But they do not fucking run! Where have they got to go that it's so important? They've only got the rest of their undead existance to get there! While they're at it, the re-makers might as well go all the way: zombies riding dragons!
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Dawn of the Dead was a provocative and shocking mastermapiece.
This "remake" is just another rubbish aimed at teenagers done for making dollars.
Romero isn't even credited at the end of the trailer.
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MPAA aproved trailer of a zombie remake film? No way! Un-original, un-impressed, un-understandable. Now, where's my fucking bourbon and Romero's OT supa-dupa dvd set and Romero's Residen Evil and Dead Reckoning and all the shit studios don't let THE MAN do. Es que tiene cojones.
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Cheers to the use of "Sparklehorse" tune to set the mood! Fucking loved it!! I can't wait, now that Texas is out lets just hope the trailer lives up to the flick....yeah right, nah, this is gonna be fun! Harry, quit yer nitpicking, so what if the zombies are moving fast, at least they are moving faster then yer bowel movements lately!!
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If Scott Frank's re-written and it's got a decent budget, I'm looking forward to it. Big time, Bill.
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I just saw it. No mention of him. And it looks like a glossy 28 Days Later. Oh dear. Don't turn the bluey's into bloody 28 Days Later Gymnasts from Hell....
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Mate that 'underground' zombie jumped like he was in the fuckin' Matrix... that wouldn't happen. Fuck, they fucked this up. And I had hope. Niaive bastard.
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Ok, I just made that up, but I don't mind zombies that run if it's used sparingly - maybe some kind of undead instinct to rush at their prey at the last second. However, if they chase people by running that would not be a good idea, they would no longer be zombies. Zombies are supposed to be slow. If I wanted fast moving creatures I would watch DEMONS or 28 DAYS LATER.
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And those zombies fucking RUN! That's so lame. I didn't think it would be this bad but I was wrong. Those aren't zombies. Shit, they ruined the movie right there. I bet the fuckers making this film watched 28 DAYS LATER and thought it would be cool to have fast moving zombies. Idiots.
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Oct 17, 2003 6:50:05 AM CDT
enough already with the MTV "strobe light" school of editing in
by monroeart
why does hollywood shove this cliched burst of images at us? i know it's supposed to heighten tension and keep everything brief so it's just a tease. but sweet fucking christ if they don't start employing new techniques i'll explode.i couldn't even have told you there were zombies in the movie had i not seen the original movie before. my eyes require more than a nanosecond to see how cool the makeup looks. and it'd help if they'd hire more than the same two guys doing the voice overs for them.pss-matrix 3 is going to suck ass.
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It looks very nice actually and they got running zombies in this one instead of the lumbering, mindless ghouls that graced Romero's masterpieces. I guess they are going for a little more realistic approach since something that doesn't go any faster than my grandma could be easily dealt with instead of the crazed mindless psychos that run after you.
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Will all of you whiners shut up! God, just because something is new or a remake of a classic doesn't mean that it will automatically suck! You saw 30 seconds of the film for God's sake! Let's all wait until it comes out and then make an educated assessment of the movie. I love Dawn of the Dead too, but I'm not gonna crucify someone for trying to do a remake. Hell, if I had the money and talent I'd have loved to make a remake of Dawn of the Dead or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Don't think of it as basterdizing the originals think of it as an homage to them. If you don't like them, fine! If you do, great! I am just glad to see zombies in movies at all again. Hollywood is finally listening to the horror fans and not shoveling out "Scream 27" anymore. Hey, at least they're trying, which is more than I can say for the past 5-10 years.
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yes, another remake! Hollywood rules, we need more remakes, secuels and videogame adaptations.The first step to human extintion. Go ape.
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With the original "Dawn of the Dead", what I thought was the most realistic scene by far was the one when the army and some locals go on what looks like me to be a picnic. In between drinks, they go pot some zombies in the head. Generally, everyone seems to be having a good time and no-one seems unduly worried.
On its own, if it's just the slow moving dead coming back to live, the world wouldn't change that much, people would just do what I described in the above scene. They'd probably make a new sports league out of it.
Among other things, you could just wait it out too. Given enough time, the dead would rot too much after the muscles and nerves especially liquefy and that happens fast. They wouldn't be able to stand upright (oh no! it's the crawling dead).
Mind you since it's a film about the dead coming back to life and trying to eat people, let's got too worried about scientific accuracy.
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"something that doesn't go any faster than my grandma could be easily dealt with", my ass. I mean, this should be nightmare - the whole fucking world zombie population out there craving for human flesh. The muthafuckers should'nt run 'cuz they WOULD'NT need to run, their sheer number being more than enough to kick the survivors' sorry asses in no time. Plus, there's that sweet little thang called rigor mortis making things stiffier than ever...
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watches every movie ever made, analyzes every scene, memorizes every line, buys every copy made available on DVD, VHS, & Laser Disc, talks for hours on message boards and in chat rooms about them, and as a result of all my superior film knowledge - stand on a pedestal above all the rest of the world telling them that b/c I know everything about past, present, and modern cinema - mine and only my opinion matters. Therefore the ideas and opinions of anyone else are void.
So I wasn't old enough to see 'Reservoir Dogs' and 'Pulp Fiction' in theaters when they were originally released, so I wasn't able to feel the vibe of those movies like the rest of you folks here. I am not familiar with the films Tarantino is paying homage to with his body of work, so sue me if I liked 'Kill Bill' better than his other 3 films.
So when I admit that I liked 'Day of the Dead' better than 'Dawn', and while I have me reservations about the remake of 'Dawn' and it's casting in particular, I don't think that b/c I find the remake of this film as well as the TCM remake appealing, or my likings of modern and classic films should warrant me being called an idiot.
We are all fans of movies here, we have our opinions and are entitled to them. Some of us get more passionate than others, but that doesn't mean any one of us is wrong. I for one found this trailer to be interesting, but not as well-done as the TCM remake trailer. That one has a lot of suspense and darkness to it, and I really hope that it turns out to be a good movie. I saw the original and was impressesd with it. Yeah, it may not be as good as some of today's film's but I could definitely feel the tension and fear going through the characters as they were being chased down.
My biggest worry about this new 'Dawn' remake is the cast. How Sarah Polley got involved in this movie after being in so many more artistically put together films is beyond me. But I guess you gotta do what you can to pay the bills.
I am gonna see it and hope that it is at least a fun movie. I don't care if it has the same kind of social commentary that Romero put in his version, and if it does or not, I don't care. Just make a fun movie, don't dumb it all down for us, tell a good story, give us great visuals, and do a decent job.
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I foresee myself calling in to work with a bad 24-hour virus the morning this one gets released. Although it looks more like 28 DAYS LATER than the legendary movie for which it is named, this could wind up being a terrific outing. OK, so it's PG-13... and that sucks, especially having just seen KILL BILL and realizing that apparently you CAN escape the wrath of the MPAA to some degree these days (maybe only if you're QT)... but I'm giving this one the benefit of the doubt and buying up tix for three straight showings!
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I love the origonal Dawn of the Dead. I can still like this one. I am so looking forward to "Dawn of the Dead '04"
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eh. sk
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First off, I have to say that I don't like the whole Dead Remake thing. I live out in rural/suburban Pennsylvania, and out of the three places I go to rent videos: NOT ONE of them has the original Romero trilogy. Two of them have the NOTLD remake, and I know that all of them will carry the Dawn remake. That sucks. ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... ... --- ... Now, about running zombies: SOME ZOMBIES CAN INDEED RUN. In Return of the Living Dead (one of the all-time best zombie movies) there were some damn fast zombies. In Dead Alive, AKA: Brain Dead (an undisputed classic), the zombies could run. Anybody remember that Baby Selwyn playground chase scene? Every halfway decent zombie film has added something new to the way their zombies behaved (with the exception of Day of the Dead, which didn't need to). The only reason Harry Knowles is saying that zombies shouldn't run is that he's forgotten how cool the fleet-footed zombies in Dead Alive were. This doesn't mean that running zombies will be cool in a Hollywood-retard remake of THE greatest zombie movie ever made. It just means that you shouldn't be too picky about how your zombies move.
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Look, I know everybody and thier undead grandmother has an opinion about whether this movie will suck hog ass or rule, but I'd like to point out a few things that I've been mulling over:
1) Universal (the dorks who hampered Rami during his filming of "Army of Darkness") has a track record of screwing up this genre.
2) Yes, the fast-moving zombie is lame. While they could have certainly sped them up somewhat from Romeros' shufflers (I guess the fresh ones would still be able to move fairly quickly), there can be a case for 'too soon' after "28 Days Later". And of course "The Crazies".
3) Why DID they feel they couldn't give this film another title? If it is good, and folks were railing against the film mainly because of this, why not?
This one I can answer. Because we will end up going to see it anyway, regardless of our moral outrage, if one of our buddies tell us it's good.
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I think that "Night" is the scariest film of the original trilogy, because the horror lies in the fact that there is a safe refuge "out there", but the characters can't reach it. The end shot - where the zombies have been largely overcome and are just targets in a turkey shoot once the sun comes up, but where the main character STILL DIES, turned my blood so cold that I never really hope to duplicate the frisson in the future. "Dawn" was brilliant, but part of me just didn't accept it, because I just don't think the zombies would ever take over like that. I know, it's a film about the walking dead, so "scientific accuracy" doesn't matter, but if part of the sense of jeopardy is supposed to be that humanity as a whole is overrun, it has to be at least logistically plausible. And it's not. One army division with a map of national guard armory sites would beat a nation of zombies in a fight. Forget flamethrowers, think about aircraft and artillery. Think about just driving tanks over zombies in a field, like you were mowing the lawn or something. Zombies are scary to me on a small scale, because I can buy being isolated in a farmhouse and NOT having enough weapons, fuel, or time to get out, or to hold on until the Guard came along and made zombie sausage. On a grand scale the 28 Days Later scenario is much more plausible and scary, because the act of fighting back puts you at risk for infection, so you can't just set up a machine gun nest in Times Square and keep changing barrels as they get hot. Still, I definitely WILL see this, so the producers will get my money anyway.
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At least the children zombies run, in that one scene where they come out from behind the door and attack the black dude.
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really, this trailer scared the capital S-H-I-T outta me!!!!!! Am I insane?? The Sparklehorse song was perfect too (what's the title??). I am a big fan of the original, but I look forward to this film as a completely different beast... if its PG-13, I WILL join this anti-DOTD remake riot, but otherwise, color me interested... and as for the running zombies, I too have issue with that because of riguer mortis disallowing them to be able to move swiftly, but there are a few decent zombie movies out there in which zombies do not plod or crawl, so I'm open for it. So... AM I INSANE????????????????
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I don't care if this movie sucks or not, but if the publicity from it leads to another collectors DVD of the original - I'm all for it.
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The 28 Days Later vibe felt a little strong this morning. I like the idea about Jake Weber's character using signs across the rooftop to signal to other survivors. And asking people like Scott Frank to do the re-writes along with Michael Tolkin is good too. Who knows..? I recognised a little shot reminiscent of Roger slowly turning into a ghoul in the orignal, except this time it's a guy and his daughter (? maybe). Even the make up on this guy looks like Roger's.
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Great to hear a bit of class music on a trailer for once. And no sign of that bastard Mr Voice, either.
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Well, aren't we supposed to?
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... I'm headin up to your neck of the woods to plot our survival strategy. =) In high school, when my horror buddies and I were still only on about our hundredth viewing of DAWN (I've seen it well nigh 300 times in 15 years) we used to drink Shaefer beer and plot our strategy for how to overcome such a situation. I'm not convinced my pal Dan doesn't still have a zombie emergency cache still stashed somewhere on his parents' old homeplace... ;)
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Scooby Doo and 2. Yuck.
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Is it just me or is remaking the second film in a trilogy just silly? I mean, there was a chronological story involved. Who would just remake EMPIRE or SUPERMAN 2. I know, lets remake FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2, cause Jason wasn't the killer in the first. I guess they just liked filming in the mall.
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...you folks will buy "genetically altered spiders" that give super powers, adamantium skeletons with retractable claws, flaming eyeballs that float above gay towers, a chick that can make herself walk (and then kill hundreds of people) after awakening from a four year coma, muppets that jump around and kick ass because they use "the force", guys with frigging lasers coming out of their eyes (unless they wear special sunglasses, of course!) and the idea that the dead can come back to life and want to eat you.......but you can't buy that they would be able to maybe run...........dorks............
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Oct 17, 2003 11:14:21 AM CDT
Whoops, that shoulda been "Iron City" beer, not Shaefer...
by roguewriter
My God, I've embarrassed my Pittsburgh origins with that faux pas...
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Here is my pitch for a zombie film: The zombies rise, and a group of crazed New Englanders have been PREPARING for the zombies to rise for years. They have dry moats around their remote rural strongholds that they can fill with gasoline to have zombie barbecue. They have converted old snow plows into "zombie scoops" for clearing the roads. They have flail trucks that chop the zombies into sushi. This time, the zombies are the prey! Throw in a "Jurassic Park" chaos-theory plot line about some silly flaw in the survivialists' strategy. Or maybe do it in an ultra-detailed and technical way - 24 hours of a technically advanced group getting pinned down by blind mass attacks - and pitch it as "Blackhawk Down" but with zombies. Or maybe there is one guy who has analyzed the zombies' brain waves and has realized that they are actually experiencing innocent ecstasy 24/7, and are stumbling around out there creating the perfect human culture - and he thinks we should give the great plains to the zombies so that they can do their innocent noble savage zombie esctasy dance among the swaying tall grasses. Pitch it as "Dances With Wolves" but with zombies. Look at all the great zombie movies left to be made!
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I understand the reluctance of fans to accept it, though. We've been jerked around way too many times, so it'll take more than a sweet trailer to hook some people. I feel sorry for my poor friend. Two of his favorite movies, TCM and DotD, have been remade. He's torn by his loyalty to the originals, and the natural curiousity to see how the new ones measure up. Or if you wanna be pessimistic about it, how badly they suck. Horror holds a special place in my heart, so I guess I can see why some people get TOO pissed when the few fine examples of our beloved genre are subjected to "rebooting" a la upgraded special effects and big name actors, and become a hollow mockery of their former potent, visceral selves.
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Oct 17, 2003 11:39:35 AM CDT
The response is a little late, but let's meditate on the ignoran
by blacklist
"I guess they are going for a little more realistic approach since something that doesn't go any faster than my grandma could be easily dealt with instead of the crazed mindless psychos that run after you." Do you realize what you said? Shit, go check out the original Dawn of the Dead or any other of Romero's trilogy. If you have millions of slow lumbering dead after you, yeah, eventually they'll catch up, and there's nothing you can do about it. That's where the horror is. Not pandering to MTV crowd that has the attention span of a child with EXTREME RUNNING ZOMBIES! You even know what you're talking about? This is a Dawn of the Dead (remake) thread. Heard of it? Rent it!
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Thank you for bringing some much- needed enlightenment and thought-provoking ideas here. Brilliant!
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James is great with dialogue. If you read "The Toy Collector", you'll really get a sense of his darker side. I can't wait.
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SUCK IT.
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A zombie is a corpse brought back to life. Corpse, even hours after death start to decompose. Their muscles become stiff as they die off. If they are even further decomposed, their tissues have begun to deteriorate. So a Zombie running fast is not the best of ideas, because a week or even day old corpse is not going to have tissue with enough integrity or flexibility to sustain the quick movements involved in running and jumping.
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I recently read a book titled The Zombie Survival Guide - Your complete protection form hte UnDead. By Max Brooks. It is a halarious book that is written with scientific "reasoning" of zombies. details a virus that kills and keeps the brain alive. Tells why ZOMBIES MOVE SLOWLY! Describes why they don't rot or decompose very quickly. Also it gives great tactic on how to spot where zombie attacks have been (government covering them up with reports of "mysterious murders, etc.") and how to survive the different level outbreaks. Tells you why a chainsaw is not a great weapon (ignore the movies!) and a long pry bar would work best.
I've already used the rules of it for a basic little movie that I plan to film with some people I know. Simply using a little rule book for Zombies to have it make sense goes a LONG way. Check out this book if you can find it. I think its in the humor section. Has a rifle and machete crossed on the cover. ITs just worth the easy read.
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Oct 17, 2003 12:09:50 PM CDT
and never forget these rules (when you get overrun by legions of
by tiburonprime
And don't forget... (taken form that book)
Top 10 Lessons for Surviving a Zombie Attack
1. Organize before they rise!
2. They feel no fear, why should you?
3. Use your head: cut off theirs.
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Those of you who feel that fast-moving zombies suck obviously aren't aware of the source material for Romero's "Night of the Living Dead," Richard Matheson's most excellent book "I Am Legend." A must read for all fans of the zombie genre. What makes this story so great is that the zombies here are more like vampires that come out in the day; they run, they talk, they have a hunger for living flesh and blood....The fact that "Legend's" zombies are more like the living makes it eben more suspenseful and terrifying. Read it if you haven't already!
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I guarantee Sparklehorse(or anything else worthwhile) won't be used in the film. It'll be that same ol' rap-metal-bad techno stuff the tweens love. Oh, and the shot in the trailer of the guy indulging his high heel fetish---crossdressing: always funny(just ask undead Milton Berle).
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Your science lesson is all well and good, but these are corpses coming back to life, so I think the realism factor got shot out the window when that happened.
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All of the anti-runners need to go get their history books out and read up on Return.
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Oct 17, 2003 1:04:53 PM CDT
Thanks Fugazi FOR FUCKING UP THE TALKBACK WITH YOUR LAME ASS HA=
by rolling_stone
Asshole
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I think the fact that the zombies are fast and agile destroys the whole subtext of the original movie - the parralel with people being mindless consumers. I don't say this parralel HAS to be there, but if you're goign to call a movie "Dawn of the dead" then you should stick to what the original author wanted to say.
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There IS no point in remaking a film UNLESS you are going to change something ie. RUNNING, TOUGHER zombies. What you guys also have to understand is that this is the 21st century and today's average moviegoer is not going to be thrilled with slow moving, "How 'bout we just walk around these guys they're so slow?", zombies. You have to be somewhat realistic. The premise is for the RECENTLY deceased ie. in decent physical condition. I doubt that these zombies will be taken out by drunken renecks with shotguns. It's serious shit now. Bring it on. Go see the fucking movie so the SUITS will make MORE zombie/horror movies and hopefully inspire good original ones. BTW, the original one with the BLUE FUCKING FACE PAINT sucked anyway. And that ending? HELLO?! I saw the original again last month and I just laughed the whole time. That is not going to be MY definitive zombie movie. If I want to see a crappy, funny zombie movie series, I rent the Return series. HA! PEACE.
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In case no one has mentioned it yet, the Sparklehorse song playing is the title track to their 2001 release, "It's A Wonderful Life".
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I'm going to go see this movie simply because I have a soft spot for post-apocalyptic zombie movies. ( is there any other kind? ) About the fast vs. slow zombies. In my opinion, they offer different kinds of scares. The traditional slow zombies bring a feeling of terrible DREAD to the movie. I mean...yeah, you can run away from them. You can bash them with something ( my weapon of choice would be some long, heavy, metal-studded club ) You can hide out in some mall or warehouse. But eventually you will have to sleep! That's right. You have to rest. Now imagine the next morning, getting up and finding that those slow-moving bastards have surrounded your hideout. You have to clear them off again! Basically, you can't relax when those things are around. That's horrible. And very frightening. You never know when you will turn a corner and run into some nasty, rotting thing looking to eat you. Now, about those fast zombies. They offer a different kind of terror. It would be like a war situation. Danny Boyle really brought that out in "28 Days Later." Can you imagine if instead of soldiers in that mansion it had been just civilians? Those things would have stormed the house in no time! All in all, I hope that this movie delivers the goods. Slow or fast, I'm hoping to be scared silly.
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who cares if they run?! who cares if the film is a remake?! hell, i think it's more of a revisioning rather than remake, theres no way they could duplicate the first film, and they knew it. Why can't people be happy there is a kick ass looking zombie flick with some really good looking production value being distributed by 'the suits' as you call them? People always used to complain there wasn't enough zombie flicks, now these same people are finding new things to complain about. Gimme a break! ... And this was only a 'teaser' trailer, so I don't think it's fair to bash it for now crediting Romero...wait a bit for the real trailer...you know, the longer kind with text or voice overs and such...i'm sure they will get around to doing it then...hell, the japan poster put his name above the title! ... and don't go into the movie, carrying the original with you, you will be bound to hate this one and that's just a waste of your time and money...otherwise, you might as well as forget about going. on another level, i kinda find all this complaining amusing...most of you complainers are die hard zombie fans who really want a good zombie flick...but because you are mostly 'glass is half empty' kinda folk, you probably won't like it when you really would prefer to like it...just sucks to be you then, huh? Personally, I just can't wait! God Bless the suits! :-)
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Then it's like the writers get bored and the ending is always the same showdown. BTW are these real zombies or virus/disease/radiation created zombies. Because those aren't really zombies. A zombie is a reanimated corpse.
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I'd sure like to give her 69.Dude.
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This never occured to me before, but that's part of why I thought 28 Days was so lame. Zombies are supposed to move slowly which is what makes them even more scary...you think you could outrun them easily, but then they corner you or you are surrounded by them and you are still fucked! You have more time to feel fear and dread as the zombie(s) slowly close in on you and you know it is the end. If a zombie runs out of dark corner and kills you, where is the suspense or fear? Great point Harry...maybe your obsession with zombies, werewolves, etc actually has its positive aspects for society.
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...that you can watch right now, check out "Gone Bad" 1 & 2. These rule so fucking hard -they are are only a few minutes long and you'll want to see a feature length version asap. http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/af/content/gone_bad1
There's a goddamn March 26 2004 release date on this DoD update. Sheesh. Burn me at the stake, but I think this trailer captures the spirit of the Romero's version. They better go for a hard, hard R mpaa rating and let the teens fend for themselves. Ving looks solid and Sarah Polley is one of the most perfect and inspired casting choices I've seen, period. Don't know about the production folk, tho. They got the demented look of the parking garage zombie right. Overall, I don't mind the new convention of fast moving zombies but NOT in a remake of a Romero film. Savini's cameo as the L.A. county sheriff is fun but I hope it doesn't take me out of the experience. There really is something to hearing a scratchy record play over dreamy visuals. Thanks to whoever shared that it was a Sparklehorse tune. That the DoD Update people had to have been inspired to use that Sparklehorse (baaad name) track after seeing how cool the opening sequence to the Gone Bad films are. There's also a similar track on the first Queens of the Stone Age disc. Be cool. -
I agree that at the end of the day, the walking zombies are the more frightening. But that doesn't mean this movie is going to suck. Return of the LD had runners, and that was, IMHO, a great zombie flick. Also, compared with the horrendous "House Of The Dead" trailer, this looks halfway decent.
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Oct 17, 2003 2:48:20 PM CDT
Hey, I have seen Dawn of the Dead and this ain't no Dawn of the
by lost skeleton
and I have seen JFK and Ossie Davis ain't no JFK.
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Oct 17, 2003 2:53:32 PM CDT
The blonde IS Africa-hot. And the production values do seem pre
by fluffyunbound
If they just had used another title...oh well. I do like the shot of the TV's all suddenly turning to snow. Add up enough little moments and this could be a cool film.
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It kills me when fanboys cite previous examples in film as precedents that justify something, like with the fast-moving zombies, which we've seen before, thus making them more legit...??? Heheh... there's always a first, remember. Anyway, if you can imagine the dead re-animating into man-eaters (why not, oh, I dunno, double-chocolate oreo-eaters?... which Harry could probably relate to a little better anyway -- kiddin' Harry ;)... and before you start quoting Doc Logan, fanboy, lemme point out that I was /joking/), it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that whatever process is strong enough to re-animate a corpse, is also capable of turning it into a spry re-animated corpse. Yeah, yeah, athletic zombies seem to pander to the whole EXTREEEME!!! mindset all too prevalent these ADHDays, and undermine the nightmarish aspects of shambling zombies, and the whole subtext of "the mindless excesses of a society gone mad!" (actually... fast zombies still work in this respect... and are probably even more relevant to our fast-paced society), and they also help explain how it is they could quickly overrun us...
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Gots me a new song to add to a mix for my goth/emo gf -- she loves whiny, age-of-irony shit like that :D
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...I didn't know it would do that. I am a HUGE Dawn of the Dead fan...it was an undenyable classic in my book - but let's get real, a bunch of extras in grey makeup and fake blood doing the Thorazine Shuffle is more funny than scary these days. I liked the fast zombies in 28 Days Later - they movements were erratic and creepy in their own way. Also, I can think of at least 2 remakes of classics where the creature was updated and it worked(The Thing and The Fly). I am looking forward to a remake with better effects and acting even if it deviates from the "sacred" source material........just no fuckin' gay "bullet-time" shite, please!!!!!!!!!
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No where else can this debate be had with anything even resembling a straight face. You're all STARS!
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Here's why you should never have running zombies in Dawn of the Dead. Romero's version was essentially a "satirical film about consumerism," right? The satire was in seeing the zombies shuffle their Hush Puppies all over all mall, just like real life for the masses. We all understand this. By having the zombies run the satire is gone, unless Zack "Don't you fucking call me Dee" Snyder is holding up a mirror to all the cross-trainers out there --a message to Harry perhaps?
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Oct 17, 2003 3:27:06 PM CDT
Some things are worth saying twice, so I'll say it again.....
by fugazi_osbourne
...you folks will buy "genetically altered spiders" that give super powers, adamantium skeletons with retractable claws, flaming eyeballs that float above gay towers, a chick that can make herself walk (and then kill hundreds of people) after awakening from a four year coma, muppets that jump around and kick ass because they use "the force", guys with frigging lasers coming out of their eyes (unless they wear special sunglasses, of course!) and the idea that the dead can come back to life and want to eat you.......but you can't buy that they would be able to maybe run...........dorks............UPDATE!!! consumerism satire my ass....it was a horror flick, don't believe everything you read.....
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This trailer was not only unimpressive but it makes the movie look like it just plain sucks. The original is such a classic and this movie seems to add nothing to it. I don't see how there's going to be anything in here that Resident Evil: Apocalypse won't probably do better. Fast moving zombies suck ('cept in 28 Days Later because those weren't technically zombies), using half-naked chicks as a desperate attempt to sell your movie sucks, and turning classic horror films into commercial vehicles for a quick buck sucks. Ving Rhames is a worthy choice for this film but that's about all I can say about it. The cinematography seems to be going for a definite David Fincher feel but this film appears to just be dead on arrival. I love zombie flicks but unless this movie has some insane, CGI-enhanced gore or something (but you know they're going to go the safe route and make it PC), I'm steering clear of it.
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They weren't zombies, or dead. They were people that were infected w/ a virus that made them rage-aholics. I think them running and thrashing around was fine. Also, their projectile blood vomiting was wicked sick.
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idiot.
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This trailer nailed the lid on the coffin for me: Running zombies. Oh I get it, 28 Days later: the American story.
Fuck James Gunn! This is not Dawn of the Dead. I knew this dipshit Scooby Doo from hell was going to ruin it. Would have been way better to not attach it to the dead trilogy at all, let alone a remake.
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...thanks for the tip! Those Gone Bad films over at Atom Films were brilliant. My kind of zombies. Loved the spaghetti western style animated credit sequences too.
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...from the Day of the Dead commentary track. There's something about the slow, creeping horror of zombies that kicks the anxiety level up. It's the idea that "ok, they're all slow, I can handle this" which becomes "wait, there are so many of them" to "there goes my arm." Perhaps if I didn't see the running ghoul effect in 28 Days Later, I would be more open to the idea also, but now it feels like a "me too..."
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In 28 Days, they weren't undead, they were infected humans so I didn't mind that they were a different breed of "zombie." However, they are the undead here, and having them all spry and whatnot is very, very lame. The fact is - I wanted to like this trailer and I actually did like a LOT of this trailer, but the entire concept of the leaping, jumping, sprinting zombies ruined it all. What a poor, poor choice.
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I think it's silly how everyone wants to dictate silly shit like this. Who cares? Kermit can talk, Superman can fly, and zombies can run. Why should this matter? All I know is that the trailer looks great... unlike those William Castle remakes... yuck.
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Another lame remake of a somewhat lame original, with a lame bunch of actors (yes, I even include Ving Rames [sic] in that catagory) spouting hammy dialogue (no, I have not seen this film yet, but I believe it is safe to say that is exactly what this film will deliver.) Nothing intelligent or dynamic about it what so ever. I would rather sit through the most overly cerebal and pretentious film with absolutely no chance of understanding what I am watching, rather than sit and waste my time with this type of shit.
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Oct 17, 2003 5:29:30 PM CDT
Why the hell don't they give all the money that it cost to remak
by misterhappy
Why, oh why, is such a shit remake being done when Romero is STILL trying to get funding to make his fourth instalment in the Dead Trilogy?
Why the constant need to vomit up the past so the cretins can feed on it some more? You have people out there full of original ideas, ones that will doubtless provide years of remakes to come, and still no funding.
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that was referred to in this talkback (No, I'm not a plant, y'all have seen me post before). It's freakin great. I wrote one of the reviews (the "if you buy only one zombie survival guide" review.) Anyhoo, here ya go: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400049628/qid=1066427167/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-1519373-6686364?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
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Does anyone have a direct link to the Gone Bad short films -- or know how to capture them rather than having to watch them streaming on frikkin' Atomfilms.com every time I want to see them?
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Running Zombies what the hell is this! I guess I'll be seeing walk-drag at the unemployment office.
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Hmmm, there goes that matinee idea. Too bad since I always loved the idea behind "Dawn of the Dead" but hated the execution. Too much mall, not enough zombie ass wailing.
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you mean the same font that comes packaged with every version of every operating system everywhere? yeah, i like that font too.
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this looks good, people. Remake or no. This looks semi-decent. Music choice was excellent, too.
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This looks like the end of my watching zombie flicks carreer.
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Maybe I missed something about your post, but in answer to your question about why they are 'starting with the second film' is simple: "Night of the Living Dead" has already been REMADE! And if you haven't seen it, rent it! I'm sure this remake will pale in comparison to it.
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