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Alexandra DuPont's looks at KILL BILL and BUBBA HO-TEP!!!

Hey folks, Harry here with Alexandra DuPont and her rather unique looks at KILL BILL and BUBBA HO-TEP --- both films that are AICN faves... Here take isn't exactly toting the "party line" but then, she continually refuses Hercules' proposals and my suggestive come-hithers. Just as a note, BUBBA HO-TEP expands to 9 Theaters in Los Angeles this weekend, so get your ass out there and support that little film so it finds an audience in the rest of the country and world! Here ya go...

I. KILL BILL's big fat elephant

Holding a pre-release discussion of Kill Bill at this point is a bit like trying to hand out leaflets while the Martians invade London, so I'll be brief. There's a lot to love in KB -- the fight scenes are beautiful and contain an internal narrative rhythm; the music swings; the power-hose arterial sprays are a sick delight; Uma is terrific; loved the Charlie Chan Texas Rangers; the anime O-Ren backstory is nothing short of jaw-dropping; Chiaki Kuriyama's face veers wonderfully between schoolgirl brightness and a sick leer; Sonny Chiba could sauter wires with his eyeballs; the blending of genres is a lot smoother than expected; the shift to black-and-white and back to color is an innovative MPAA workaround that actually becomes artful; the references to the history of cat-piss Grindhouse cinema are heartfelt. For many if not most of you, this movie will well and truly raise its goblet of rock, and for that I am glad.

But;

And I don't think this will just have been me;

And Jackie Brown is my favorite Tarantino movie, so take the following with a grain of salt;

And I'm trying to spark a discussion here;

And I should also note that I saw the film with someone who bloody well hated it, and may be feeding off those vibes, and that also I read the script online, which was an enormous and abiding mistake that I will never again repeat;

... There's stuff in Kill Bill that left me totally flat. Really. David "I'll Dish on a Wachowski for Personal Glory While Sanctimoniously Ordering You to 'Look in the Mirror'" Poland will not have been alone in his opinion when the smoke clears on this one.

Make no mistake -- this is a cool movie. But a few things kept it from being great for me. I will now list these perceived flaws, which may fade with a second viewing, and wonder if any of you will agree when the weekend's over:

(1) I thought the dialogue was really, really flat. Mind you, this is a different criticism from "The dialogue wasn't Tarantino-esque!" -- which is what a lot of people will be saying. What I'm trying to say is that a pastiche that tries to convey to the masses one's passionate love for a genre can't merely upgrade the acting, cinematography, soundtrack and editing during re-packaging -- you have to re-animate the dialogue, too. And I'm sorry, but the most memorable line in Kill Bill is "My name is Buck, and I like to fuck." Not good enough. Especially from this writer.

(2) Some of the supporting roles (I'm thinking specifically of the orderly Buck) go to actors who appear to be congratulating themselves for being in a Tarantino movie.

(3) There were just too many shots in there of people looking with forced awe at Hattori Hanzo swords. It got dull. Especially in the scene with Lucy Liu after the spectacular battle in the House of Blue Leaves.

(4) I'm sorry, but the temperature in my preview audience was lower than expected. Everybody laughed at the splatter (disturbing but not surprising) and the wicked-sweet "Shaw Scope" and "Our Feature Presentation" bumpers and any line that contained the word "fuck" or a squeal of agony, and they were certainly attentive, but there was only a spattering of applause at the end.

Because I've read the script (stupid stupid stupid!), I know that the dramatic payoff is coming in Vol. 2; the online script just got better and better. But I simply cannot give Vol. 1 an unqualified rave. Will I go see it again? Absolutely. Maybe, as with "The Matrix Reloaded," adjusted expectations will lead to a more merciful second viewing. But I think this is a film that will divide even its geek audience. Pray I'm wrong.

IK. The somber surprises in BUBBA HO-TEP

I think there's probably an Entertainment Weekly piece in our future about the way that the Internet has turned lovers of trash-n-slash cinema into a unified, distinct lobbying force. The piece (to be written by Carina Chocano, most likely) will be titled "Ain't It Cool Moves," with the subhead "How Harry Knowles's Gravitational Pull Turned Studio Heads to Trash," or something equally cringe-inducing.

Chocano -- who specializes in squinky pieces of Gen-X superfluff -- will abuse lots of horrible puns about zits and Harry's girth as she explores the way filmmakers now specifically craft flicks to cater to the fetishy interests embraced by sites like AICN, Film Threat and CHUD, which studio chiefs and indie filmmakers now recognize as the vanguard of a loosely organized niche market.

If I may take over for the future Ms. Chocano: This is a very real trend. For years, Harcourt Fenton Knowles et al bitched online about the lack of bared tits in mainstream horror; somehow, the tits miraculously returned. They bitched about the lack of innovative, funny gore; the gore returned, or is at least trying to. They proudly crowed (in an organized online fashion from around 1995 on) about their love of exploitation and corny sci-fi and zombies in unlikely settings and Asian fu and the passionate underpinnings of trash gone by -- throwing in the odd reference to such Fortean geek-camp icons as Elvis and UFOs and, oh, I don't know, anime tentacle rape -- and suddenly, lo and behold, filmmakers high and low on the totem pole (seeking niche box office and first-film street cred, respectively) started making flicks that pushed all the proscribed geek buttons, as if they'd suddenly realized that Joe Bob Briggs wasn't the only one.

Anyway, all the above was running through my head as I walked out of Bubba Ho-Tep: The movie felt like it had been custom-designed to ensnare the eyeballs of H.F. Knowles. I could almost hear the filmmakers ticking off the story elements: "The undead? Check! Elvis? Check! JFK conspiracy theories? Check! Stupid Bruce Campbell one-liners? Check! A trailer-trash setting? Check! Latent oral fixation? Check!" I'm not knocking the flick, mind you -- it's a much more nuanced piece of work than that, which I'll get to in a minute -- but between this and Kill Bill and all the high-grade pap-smears of revisionist horror we've been enjoying lately (or not), it feels like we're entering an unprecedented New Geek Era. Congrats, you band of outsiders: You've officially been co-opted. When it produces 28 Days Later and The Ring, good; when it produces Underworld and House of the Dead, maybe not so much.

Which brings us to Bubba Ho-Tep. The movie (which looks like it was made for like $1.95) was such a little play-by-play textbook of how to make an "AICN Movie" that I was a little surprised no one had made it sooner. The story of an aging Elvis living out his final days in a nursing home, only to have his slow decline interrupted by the arrival of a cowboy-attired Egyptian mummy who eats people's souls through their anal sphincters, feels like a textbook coffee-shop conversation answer to "What would the ultimate cult/geek movie pitch be?" Casting Bruce Campbell as Elvis and throwing in a black man (Ossie Davis) who thinks he's JFK and helps Elvis solve a Scooby-Doo-esque mystery is just the bloody gravy on this pop sundae.

Now, all that said, it's a testament to director/screenwriter Don Coscarelli (working from a short story by Joe R. Lansdale) that the movie isn't quite what you'd expect in terms of tone. The above story précis makes it sound like "Bubba Ho-Tep" will be all winks and titters, with lots of proto-Raimi "Catheter Cam" shots. Mind you, that's all there -- I don't think I've seen a film in years that dwelled so heavily on the bung-hole and the pee-pee, not even Freddy Got Fingered -- but the movie's much, much more somber than that.

That's right -- somber. For one thing, Elvis spends the first half-hour of the movie confined to his bedside, enduring humiliating applications of ointment for some sort of unspecified penile blister and watching his roommates die, powerless to help. Campbell gives, I can't believe I'm writing this, a career performance as the debauched Elvis. He just disappears into the part. There's this one scene where he gazes longingly at the delicious thronged buttocks of his just-deceased roommate's semi-estranged daughter (Heidi Marnhout) and, after a lengthy monologue about his lost virility, Elvis and the daughter have an exchange about the man's Purple Heart, his life, and the quiet nuances of regret. Mind you, I thought this was a setup to have a nubile young thing tag along with JFK and Elvis so we'd have one booty that wasn't hooked up to a colostomy bag while our heroes rolled around and made wisecracks. But the skirt's really only there for the one scene.

That was kind of interesting.

Now, I should note here that sneaking some sadness or themes of regret into what's supposed to be a pure genre exercise is, at this point, a cliché in and of itself -- something I think filmmakers put in their B-movies so that reviewers like yours truly can write about them and puff up a little at the keyboard (like they did in grad school, when they wrote that thesis about the theological underpinnings of "Popeye") as they convince themselves they've actually had a meaningful experience watching a B-movie when they were really watching just watching a slasher film with a "meaningful" cutaway to a crucifix or something. Most of the time, that's just kitsch. But the sadness in Bubba Ho-Tep was pervasive enough that it didn't feel like a wink (or a wank). There's this strange gravity in watching Campbell and Ossie Davis (who brings the same level of thoughtful professionalism to this that he brings to the good Spike Lee movies, which is nothing short of heroic, IMHO) hobble along, hopelessly outmatched by the mummy, deciding to march into death bravely, having at least tried to kick somebody's ass along the way. It was kind of sweet.

All that said, the surprisingly somber sweetness didn't really seem to work for everybody in my audience. The "geek-cred" elements -- the bits where Bruce Campbell gets told to "suck Anubis' dog-dick" by the mummy and all that crap -- really aren't that clever, and people who came to the movie expecting Evil Dead with wheelchairs will be kind of let down afterward. (As one friend put it, "The movie needed more Zucker.") But still.

Warmest, Alexandra DuPont

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  • Oct. 10, 2003, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Oh Yeah

    by Bcphil

    Now that's better!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 5:34 a.m. CST

    AvP

    by paulio

    Well, she`s been wrong in most of her reviews in the past so I don`t see that this one should put anyone off.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Bubba

    by Bcphil

    I have to say, to me this might be the best movie of the year. The SFX might be a little weak compared to the monstrous budget of RoTK and Matrix 3, but regardless it seems to have more soul than any of the studio flicks, and feels like it will be fun. Let's hope for the prequel with Bubba fighting Zombie's between Blue Hawaii and Clambake.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Sweetest Thing since the Darth Maul Duel

    by reni

    Saw Kill Bill last night. Quentin you jammy bastard, it was beautiful. May not work as a stand alone film in the way the others do. Obviously. But the final showdown, Jesus Christ, is probably the sweetest thing I've ever seen in film. Oh dear the Dreyfus girl gets it big time. Well played to all concerned.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Who's this Julie Dreyfus? She's hot!

    by Cash Bailey

    I might have to scamper over to the IMDB and check her out.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Who's this Julie Dreyfus? She's hot!

    by Cash Bailey

    I might have to scamper over to the IMDB and check her out.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Tarantino a one movie wonder?

    by raw_bean

    Erm, Hello? Reservoir Dogs?

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 7:25 a.m. CST

    Kill Bill will still be good

    by Joey Russo

    Hell, I will still go see it tonight

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Geeks rule the world...

    by Cotillion

    Cant say much to the Kill Bill Review, but movies by QT work (or dont work) for most people in very individual ways, much more than more mainstream fare... However, the second part of her article about us geeks getting the movies we want... Well, thats just plain fantastic, but please bear in mind, that Studios dont really care for niche, they produce movies for the masses and that leads to the conclusion, that the masses want to see tits and blood (maybe not in the same frame, but thats just old fashioned me) and that the majority of movie goers are actually from geek land. The other "loftier" crowd that yearns for cultural cinema apparently do not go to the movies often enough (or maybe they are the ones that do all the downloading) to make it worthwhile to produce movies for them. ...and its the one big achievement of HK et al that he created a forum where the masses of geeks can yell and shout for what they want and lo, suddenly we receive it... and if any studio boss is reading this, I really would like to see more movies with Japanese School Girls that tear apart Vampires and Werewolves with medieval weapons, while on a school trip in a hot air ballon (starring Hulk Hogan as one of the Schoolgirls ....)

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 7:32 a.m. CST

    QT has nothing to prove.

    by reni

    Sorry. If you make only one Reservoir Dogs OR one Pulp Fiction you have nothing left to prove in terms of pure film making. Simple fact. I guess the fact that he chose to make a film with a beautiful lead role for a middle aged black woman doesn't prove much. I guess the True Romance script doesn't either. P.S Oh yeah, Julie Dreyfus is gorgeous. Is she a Brit?

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 8:44 a.m. CST

    WILL KILL BILL STILL THRILL?

    by Drath

    Kill me later, I had to post that heading. Seeing the movie this afternoon after work. Hope I like it.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Jesus...you geeks and your Chop Suey, Kung Fooey.

    by Lou Stools

    It never ceases to amaze me how all you black pajama-wearing little sissyfied ass nozzles get a stick in your pants over anything having to do with ridiculous Kung-Fu and that fucking god-awful flip-book, quivering, googly-eyed anime bullshit. Goddamn! It really makes me laugh

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Julie Dreyfus

    by Caine

    Well according to IMDB.com she was born in France is apparently fluent in Japanese.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 10:26 a.m. CST

    apropos of nothing, but today is Ed Wood, Jr.'s birthday

    by Hud

    so let's raise 'em up for the fairy godfather of niche. Alexandra, I think your anticipation of the EW piece is prophetic. Of course, their irony and wit will probably disguise their overall ignorance, and that's fine for people reading on the toilet or at the hair stylist's. But for those of us who really love this stuff, let's honor our crackpot pioneers and take our cult cinema straight: go to the websites for Something Weird and Ronnie Cramer and buy the sleaze and exploitation and giallo that was, and still is, years ahead of the studios' idea of a cult movie -- or a hip director's idea of homage. The cinema of transgression goes back decades; it didn't just start with Tobe Hooper or Quentin or Miike! Their freak-show forebears, the Findlays, David Friedman, H. G. Lewis, Sidaris, Russ Meyers, Dorrie Wishman, were the first to raise brutality and vulgarity to the level of a personal vision. They shouldn't be forgotten. This calculating modern product is fine as far as it goes, but it can never provide the unnerving shock of work by people with nothing to lose. Spew over.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Alex, the best line was......

    by Ninja Nerd

    ....a subtitled one. "If, in your travels, you should encounter God....God will be cut". My preview audience applauded. Not all of them, but a fair amount. The rest were sort of stunned and glassy-eyed. My nickname is for real, but since a sword would draw too much attention, I carry sticks and a police baton. During the movie, two things popped into my head. I recalled a saying at our dojo: "There are 3 possible outcomes to a sword fight. 2 of them are bad." Secondly, the fights were as close to real I've seen on film. Especially the SPEED of the action. I took some other "ninjas" from my school with me and we agreed the fights were outstanding. Interestingly, the place were it was weak was in the latter part of the "Showdown at the House of Blue Leaves" and QT resorted to some clunky, obvious wire fu in the fight with O-Ren's general of the 88's. The other quibbles were the super jarring cuts in the "Buck" scene and the Yakuza board meeting scene. Still, a must get for this ninja on DVD. Good thoughts, Alex. I liked the movie far more than I thought I would, but a 2nd or even 3rd viewing is definitely in order. There were some cool things that were missed, I am sure. BTW, did you NOT love touches like the name of the cereal #2 was pouring in the kitchen?

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Just finished watching it, Alexandra's dead on with the KB revie

    by minderbinder

    It's pretty much all about gore and attempts at shock value, the action has been done better a million times before. (there is some BAD wire work in this thing) Dialogue is mostly nothing special, there are some cool bits but LOTS of slow boring parts, especially long shots of people just staring at each other. No surprises in the movie (except the "twist" at the end, which is totally predictable), literally the plot is second revenge killing, first revenge killing (yep, QT screws with the order for no particular benefit), with some snippets of back story thrown in. Unless the second part is completely different, this could EASILY have been done as one kinda-long movie and probably would have worked much better. Save your money, wait for video or grab a bootleg, or if you have to see it do a matinee, it's not worth full price. (and after all of QT's bitching about it, he uses CGI in the film, what's up with that? Hypocrite.)

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 10:55 a.m. CST

    "Harcourt Fenton Knowles"?!!

    by Uncle Sam

    And all this time I thought that Harry's name was Harrold. The New Geek Era has begun! And it shall apogee when "Star Trek versus Star Wars" is released in theaters!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 11:03 a.m. CST

    And the "My name is Buck..." line is a rip-off from/homage to:

    by Total Geekazoid

    ... it was actually the first line of dialogue in Tobe Hooper's 1977 "Eaten Alive" (spoken by a young Robert Englund.) So Alexandra's most memorable line of Kill Bill dialogue was actually written by Kim Henkel.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 11:24 a.m. CST

    "The Bride Wore Black" is to "Kill Bill" as "City on Fire" is to

    by Silver Shamrock

    Uh oh, the word is out. Listen to this synopsis: "The Bride Wore Black", Julie Kohler leaves her home town in a quest to avenge her husband's death. Bent on revenge and fueled with murderous intent, she tracks down five men she believes to have played a role in her husbands demise... Truffant already did this movie. Dontcha just love homages? If you spent so much time giving homages to Shaw brothers, Chiba, Truffant, there's no room left for an original statement.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 11:31 a.m. CST

    LIVE MANGA!

    by Slammer-UK

    Just seen it in Leicester Square (thats London, England for all you yanky doodles out there). HOLY SHIT! Tarantino does a live action Manga movie... very well. the actual animated sections were nothing short of stunning and a full version would piss all over a Ninja Scrolls or (dare I say it) Akira. The movie-goers loved, although I think anyone who hasnt seen a manga movie (shame on you) was a little overwhelmed by the pace and the whole Japanese culture thang. I'm not gonna go on too much cos none of you fuckers read this shit unless it starts with tom-boy beanpole or contains a reference to a werewolf or a vampire, but go see it, make up your own minds and fall in love with the brilliance of Kill Bill. I for one want to see a reference to Fox Force Five, and still secretly hope for the ending to revela this as the pilot episode :) Right, go fuck yourselves, I'm off for a beer.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 11:44 a.m. CST

    sauter wires?

    by poopy-pants

    Holy fuck I weep for the future

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 11:54 a.m. CST

    FINALLY

    by Chaka

    ... a real Bubba Hotep Review. Ms DuPont hit the nail on the head here. I saw this flick in NY after reading all of the AICN rantings ... what a let down. The movie was slow, and even depressing for no reason. While it did have some funny one-liners, the movie was too long, and too slow. The payoff REALLY sucked too. Grrr ...

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 12:09 p.m. CST

    I thought I was alone

    by Right Bastard

    I was beginning to think I was the only person who didn't like Buba Hotep. This reviewer hit the nail on the head. The movie was very somber, had the $1.19 budget, etc. Bruce was good as Elvis, but the one soliloquies got old really fast. It was a good film, but when I walked out I was not excited about it at all. O.k., but not as great as Phantasm. I'd put it on the same level as McHale's Navy.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Chaka! - I beg to differ...

    by mbeemer

    I thought the ending of "Bubba Ho-tep" was poignant, not depressing. It was about redemption, it was about a man realizing at the end of his life that he had truly made a difference. THAT is not "depressing".

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Applause

    by LewMoxon

    Why would you applaud at a movie? A special screening, with the director (or a star) there, OK. But, a regular screening? It's not like they can hear you. It's a bit like talking to yourself, isn't it?

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Run Ronnie Run

    by coop

    Speaking of AICN favorites, I just found out that Run Ronnie Run is out on DVD (or at least that's what Netflix says, and it's now in my rental queue).

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 12:31 p.m. CST

    That's the best, most thought-out review of Kill Bill I've read

    by Hobbitastic

    Thank you, Alexandra, for being informative and even-handed instead of shooting a hasty opinion all over my face like the sea of fanboys that infect this site, who still bear the emotional scars from the opening night of Phantom Menace and don't have the balls to trust in their idols anymore.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Fanboy Cinema

    by LargoJr

    I the reason why our industry is in the toilet. Everybody is coming up with a 'REALY great scene' or segment, and then they try to wrap a film around it. I'm surprised the movie industry isn't blaming the internet and peer-to-peer for this too.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 2:52 p.m. CST

    today i'll buy the soundtrack...

    by RAWHEAD RALF

    ...i'll wait for kill bill 'happening' to subside and then i'll check it out. hey, maybe you can send me a pay per view on the tv, i'll even pay premium pricing for it. did anyone catch dogs on a&e last weekend. never seen it full screen before, that was cool. seems you can say 'asshole' on tv now too. jackie brown is his best work...

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 3:50 p.m. CST

    You guys should try reading the story before you criticize!

    by rectalscan

    This movie was not aimed for the fanboy audience people!!Don Coscarelli said that he just walked into a bookstore in Texas and asked the store keeper what was popular. It was a HUGE stroke of luck that he picked Joe Lansdale! I have been reading Mr. Lansdale's work for some time now. If you liked Bubba Ho-Tep, try grabbing one of his books !It's like lightning striking twice!! Cool director. Cool writer. BAMM. I have read the story and I must say the movie was BRILLIANT!. It stuck VERY close to the story, even the dialogue!! Coscarelli added a few things to add, but they blended in perfectly. Bring on "The Drive In" starring Bruce Campbell!!!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Cornell Woolrich Lives!

    by Hal2814

    OK, let's see: a bride who is widowed on her wedding day and subsequently hunts down and kills those she holds responsible? Is it 2003's ultra-violent, hip, big screen smash, KILL BILL? Nope, it's a red-hot literary slice of noir heaven from 1940 entitled THE BRIDE WORE BLACK, from past master of the genre, CORNELL WOOLRICH ("Rear Window"). Truffaut filmed in the 1960's but without the book's jaw-dropping twist ending. Tarantino probably saw the flick and never cracked the book's cover but YOU should! Do yourself a favor, go to a bookstore, a library, seek out Cornell Woolrich's stuff. He belongs in the company of Chandler, James M. Cain and Jim Thompson but these days gets short shrift. Woolrich deserves better!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Kill Bill Vol. 1: Columbus, OH review #1

    by pencil-man

    Hello fellow dorks and geeks, here is a review from not a critic, but a working class Joe named B. Saw KB today, second show. Been waiting for it... I also read the script but it wasn't like watching the movie. Any attempt to explain this for a blind fellow would be moot. Tarantino's music cues, music, images, ideas, all were comparable to something else it was inspired from. I think of anime when I see melodramatic quips and jerks, from the actors. With cartoons, you can do anything, and that idea translates for KB. Everyone will have their opinion about this story (It is still a story mind you) and you all deserve to. Vol. 2 will bring an ending to this, THAT, friends, is my ONE & ONLY COMPLAINT about it!!!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 4:43 p.m. CST

    the blood spatter WAS funny ...

    by Lou C.

    ... and, just for the record, i think it was MEANT to be. I mean, my God, it was waaaay over the top. And I loved. Large amounts of blood spatter IS funny. Really.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 5:04 p.m. CST

    jeffmcm

    by Mosquito March

    What do you want to bet that DuPont is really into teahouses, Britpop, trips to the UK and androgynous men?

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Kill Bill Killed Me

    by Snake1997

    Oh you dumb hatahs. Don't be hatin. This thing is incredible. The audience I saw it with--11 A.M. this morning, guys, mid thirties, mostly, ate this fucker up. So did I. Applause, cheering, staying after the credits in the hopes of a preview of Vol 2 (there wasn't--but there was an RIP for Charles Bronson in the credits). Did anyone notice the mistake at the beginning of the Lucy Liu council scene, when Uma's introducing Oren's posse, she says, "and to Oren's right is..." the Julie Dreyfus hot babe, but she's really to Oren's left?

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 5:34 p.m. CST

    and Uma's ass was F.I.N.E. fine!!

    by Snake1997

    Can we get a Talkback about Uma's fine ass booty and Go-Go's pelvis/chainball closeup as she's walking down the steps? And Vivica's ass was bootylicious, too. But of all the DiVAS, the one I'd most like to marry is Julie Dreyfus. Or Uma. It's hard to decide. Probably Uma, really.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Buzz Maverik Reviews KILL BILL And May Actually Get Around To Se

    by Buzz Maverik

    First of all, forget everything you've heard: the battle between the Bride and Hello Pussy rocks ass! When they started beating each other with fish, I thought the multiplex was going to EXPLODE! I found the whole Tibetean sequence excessive though and I find it hard to believe that a woman like Uma Thurman could have been raised by Yetis. I did dig the backstory part where they went to action figures on a diorama -- it was cool how they put that Barbie doll in a yellow jogging suit and gave it a Ninja turtle sword so it looked just like Uma, plus I heard that was Quentin's personal Stretch Armstrong from childhood that they used for David Carridene. I just wish there'd been more of that kind of stuff. All in all, another fine job although QT needs to cut down on the pop culture references : "Your fighting sucks worse than Guy Ritchie movies starring Madonna." I mean, really!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 6:21 p.m. CST

    DuPont, it's 'solder' not 'sauter'

    by Det. John Kimble

    Jesus Harry, get these kids to an English class, posthaste.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Kill blah blah fucking Bill blah blah

    by super Cucaracha

    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Kill Bill this blah blah blah blah Kill Bill that blah blah blah blah....enough Harry, I'm officially begging you. STOP IT PLEASE.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 6:41 p.m. CST

    A+ For Editing

    by pencil-man

    and the Oscar goes to, Quentin Tarantino for directing.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Bubba Ho-Tep

    by Sugar_Sheila

    "Stupid Bruce Campbell one-liners" ?? Shut up, bitch!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 9:03 p.m. CST

    anybody notice that you can't say Bruce Campbell's name on this

    by magyarman

  • Oct. 11, 2003, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Saute, NOT Solder

    by Hal2814

    Actually, I think Dupont meant to type SAUTE (accent on the E), meaning "to fry in a small amount of fat". Jesus, Harry, get these kids to a cooking class, posthaste!

  • Oct. 11, 2003, 2:29 a.m. CST

    IluvRhondaMcLean

    by Mosquito March

    "Saute"? Are you fucking kidding me? Maybe you should change your name to "IluvAlexandraDuPont".

  • Oct. 11, 2003, 2:03 p.m. CST

    A.DuP. responds: No, I just totally screwed that up.

    by Alexandra.DuPont

    That's right -- it's "solder," not "sauter." From now on I promise -- PROMISE -- to run any word imagery containing references to manual labor or power tools by my spouse before posting. Bonus points to anyone who points out (a) the misprinted Roman numeral, (b) the use of "textbook" twice in a single paragraph, (c) the use of the word "thronged" instead of "thonged," and (d) the failure to hit my delete key that led to the phrase "...they were really watching just watching...." Sigh. I write this stuff for free, usually unproofed, and possibly while drinking Laudanum, and (probably because of the Laudanum, come to think of it) the AICN overlords haven't given me the password to go back and fix it later.

  • Oct. 11, 2003, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Jackie Brown was mediocre

    by Jon E Cin

    Kill Bill kicked my ass

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 12:26 a.m. CST

    I Would Ask Where I Could Score Some Of That Laudanum, But I'd E

    by Buzz Maverik

    Free Chong!

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Did anyone notice (spoiler)

    by The Tao of Joe

    That Oren Ishi-i's parents were murdered by Bill? Bill was the killer with the sword. The character who killed her parents had the same rings on his fingers, the same color in his hair, and the same sword (notice the dots on the handle). Perhaps this could explain why the bride was sad before she offed Oren's scalp near the movie's climax. Oren and the Bride have both lost everything to Bill. This could explain why Hanzo was sad about Bill when he wrote his name on the window (Hanzo trained Bill, Bill was in Japan, so he could have easily killed Oren's parents a while ago). The path to vengence is indeed a forest, one in which we could get lost in.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 12:26 p.m. CST

    No apologies here . . .

    by Movietool

    I didn't like Kill Bill. It was a tedious movie ocassionally interupted by some fairly cool fight scenes, nothing more.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Sorry, but Kill Bill rocked

    by Cerebud

    There were only two scenes where people looked at the swords in reverence. And Lucy Liu was in awe because it was her former teacher who made it, and made it to kill her. It was like a 'Fuck You' from Hattori. Not just about how cool the sword was. The movie was about FUN. I don't like martial arts films, but this one was inventive, fast paced, gripping, and fun. I do want to know what's going on, and I'm definitely waiting eagerly for the sequel, but it didn't NEED to be so plot driven. Loved every second, and I was going in expecting the worst because of this review. Not a bash on you alexandra, but we just disagree. Hope your second viewing will change your opinion.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Um... Bubba Ho-tep

    by Grubb

    I will like Bubba Ho-tep better than Kill Bill Vol. 1, maybe when Vol. 2 comes out I will like Kill Bill better. But Bubba Ho-tep is my kind of movie.

  • Good movie. Coulda had better dialogue, which was the main reason I went to see it. Does anybody else remember how Harry assured us that there was no wire fu in Kill Bill? Not a critism mind you, I rather like wire fu for the most part, but he was adament there would only be one character that used it, the old guy in the first preview, who lands and stands on Uma's Sword.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Actually, it's nice to see that SOMEBODY out there likes "Jackie

    by St.Buggering

    I personally think that a lot of Tarantino's fanbase was there there largely for the shocking, visceral, gory business of his first two films. Jackie Brown "let them down" by being a mature, well-constructed, character-based story with a plot and even a few things to say. The Reservoir Dogs fans were just waiting for a beheading, and when it didn't happen, they declared that Jackie Brown sucked. This is why I don't tend to listen to people who love True Romance and Natural Born Killers. They're just into the lurid.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 4:40 p.m. CST

    I DO Love Rhonda McLean!

    by Hal2814

    Ms. Dupont is swell and I'll give her props for honestly copping to that "sauter" misstep but my heart belongs to that beautiful, long-legged talented Canadian puppeteer/actress, the one and only Rhonda McLean. Rhonda, you rock! Also, just to keep this on topic, Tarantino is an overrated, drunken has-been with trashy taste and a tin ear.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 11:31 p.m. CST

    for some reason I feel like playing bushido blade...

    by imageburn13

    i've set expectations to "low" for this, just so as I can get some sward-fightin action...then realize Quintin T. is the man giving it to me. Fuck yea.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 11:42 p.m. CST

    On Bubba & Bill....

    by Johnny Ahab

    I've come to the conclusion over the past few years (and no, it's not scientific, just one geek's blatherings) that your enjoyment of a film really depends upon the maximum distance between your expectations you have going in and what you actually experience as you watch the film. I remember being dragged to "Raiders" on opening night in DC by some college pals (I hadn't yet blossomed into full blown film geekery just yet), and they all said "TRUST US, this is supposed to be THE movie of the summer." And not knowing what to expect, it blew my doors off. Got to go to Sundance a few years back, bought a package of tickets (17 in all!) and had a slot on the schedule open at 8:30 a.m. for some film called "Sexy Beast." Knew NADA about this film -- and came out of the theater just ranting and raving, and was one of the first folks to scream about that film on this site. Inevitably, the converse is that with some many overhyped films (like "Matrix Reloaded"), you go in waiting to have your pleasure center in your brain full to bursting...and come out disappointed. So, with "KILL BILL" and "BUBBA HOTEP," just how do you quantify enjoyment of two films that have been covered like CRAZY on this site, that may or may not have jacked up your expectations? First, a confession -- I'd never heard of Bruce Campbell before I stumbled upon this site in 1997. After hearing his name reverently intoned over and over again, I decided to check out the Evil Dead films. After the first one, I thought, "man, what's everyone all jazzed about?" I got religion with ED2 and AOD. Saw the Bruce Traveling Road Show last year in Brooklyn at a screening of both films, watched Bruce rock the house at the Q&A, and stood online for three minutes of private geek worship with him -- and I became a flaming fan for life. I have since moved back to DC, and was DYING to see "BUBBA HOTEP" which ain't playing here -- so I engineered a work trip to coincide with the opening week in NYC. I was trembling with geek anticipation as I went into the Angelika last Weds. night -- and was promptly disappointed. Doesn't mean I didn't like the film -- I totally appreciated its originality and quirkiness, and God Bless Don and Bruce for doing something so off the grid and anti-mainstream. But Ms. Dupont is right -- it is a slow, somber, surprisingly soulful movie -- and that's not what I went in primed for. I thought it was gonna be a rompin-stompin' hoot n' holler, but instead it's a poignant story of redemption and a touching story about old age with the wacky Elvis/black JFK/mummy layer over top. Bruce was terrific as the King and has lived up to the endless AICN hype -- but the movie didn't. It's well worth seeing, and the real surprise for me was Ossie Davis, who TOTALLY COMMITTED to the lunacy of the premise and the character, yet with complete and utter dignity. An amazingly touching performance. Again, don't me wrong, I'm glad I saw the film -- but there's no way it could meet my hyped-up expectations. My advice to all AICNers who intend on seeing the film, don't go in all fired up. Know that you're going to see something quirky and off kilter and funny and sad/sweet -- but do not expect pumped-up horror action (as I was lead to believe) -- and you will have a much better time. Enjoyable film with lots of great moments, but it didn't kick my ass like I wanted it to. I'll have to see it again on DVD when I'm in the proper frame of mind to appreciate it more. But go check it out and support the work. It deserves it. As for KILL BILL, I'd kinda written off Tarantino for years now. PULP FICTION was a gas, but I can't even tell you what JACKIE BROWN was about or quote any memorable moments. Just didnt' stick with me. And after all his self-promoting and living shamelessly in the spotlight, I thought he was done. Washed-up. A joke. And so I ignored all the articles about him and KILL BILL -- I just didn't care. Then I saw the trailer last week, and I sat up and took notice, yet still with a healthy skepticism. Read some raves reviews and thought, "hmmmm, sounds fun. Maybe it's worth a look." So I went in with very very low expectations -- AND LOVED IT. MAN, was it fun. Okay, there ain't much substance there, and yes, you can play "name that homage" as if QT is the film version of a rapper-sampler -- but DAMN, if it didn't wow the senses and give me a visceral kick! Loads of fun, but if I'd gone in with "MATRIX RELOADED" style expectations, I probably wouldn't have had so many kind things to say about it. Moral of the story: try to keep your expectations low to reasonable, and movies won't break your heart, disappoint, or make you just plain HULK-mad when they don't fulfill your jacked-up longings....

  • Sept. 23, 2006, 3:20 a.m. CST

    jallard

    by aestheticity

    lol