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BATMAN: INTIMIDATION GAME rumor

Published at: Oct. 8, 2003, 4:54 p.m. CST by staff

Hey folks, Harry here... I was on an airplane 2 weeks ago with Dennis Quaid, so it could mean we're doing a feature together, but somehow I think it is more likely that the following is going to happen...

Hi,

Never contacted you before, but thought you may like this: a friend of mine working at Shepperton Studios on set construction (not Batman) saw Chris Nolan talking with both John Malkovich and Dennis Quaid (at different times) over the last day or so- Ra's Al Ghul and Jim Gordon perhaps? We shall see, but they were at the studio and it seems a little out of the way to go if you're not involved with the project, wouldn't you say? Nolan appeared as though he was explaining stuff to them and showing them around, that kind of thing.

As I believe the routine is to have a nickname at this point, call me Jimmy The Gent.

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  • Oct. 8, 2003, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Last!

    by Xphile69

    First! Who cares...Batman Rules!

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 4:56 p.m. CST

    hmmm

    by broken ear

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 4:57 p.m. CST

    third

    by ScreamingPenis

    wohoo

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5 p.m. CST

    that sounds scarily good!

    by pipergates

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Did I tell you about my condition?

    by JAGUART

    I'm Batman.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Another Adventure of Patrick Bat(e)man American Psychohero

    by JAGUART

    Owen has mistaken me for this dickhead Max Shrek. It seems logical because Max is also a millionaire industrialist and in fact does the same exact thing I do and he also has a penchant for Valentino suits and Oliver Peoples glasses. Shrek and I even go to the same barber, although I have a slightly better haircut.

  • "The pool has given my body a hard clay-like consistency! Now I must...wait a minute, I haven't jumped in yet, brother..."

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:26 p.m. CST

    A friend of my sister's saw David Spade talking to Goyer's cater

    by rev_skarekroe

    Also, I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus! sk

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:27 p.m. CST

    I loved Malkovich in that jewel theif movie...

    by Big Bad Clone

    I rather see him as Scarecrow but I wouldn't bitch much with him as Ra's. My choice is still Zod/The voice of Jor-El on Smallville, Terence Stamp.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:31 p.m. CST

    I once shared a cab with Mr. T.

    by Pattymelt

    This was way back in the 80s though, in New York, and I didn't realize who it was until he got out and the cabbie told me it was the guy from the A-Team. I actually thought he was a gang member and was scared of him. But, I am glad Harry has the opportunity to fly cross country with celebrities. Sure beats a cab! As for Batman, I find all the movies to be unwatchable. To me, even the craptastic 1960s Batman movie with the TV cast was better than all the ones from the 80s and 90s. I liked the Batman cartoon from the late-90s though and think it is high time they took the series back to basics. Why can't they use the Joker again, if they are starting the series over? I'd also like to see The Mad Hatter because I thought that was an inventive villain. Hallie Berry will be a horrible Catwoman. If you want to have a black Catwoman, why not Angela Bassett? Did you see her in the Tina Turner movie, she is an excellent actress. Hallie Berry has a deal with the Devil and the world's best publicist. Gothika will tank, Catwoman will bomb, and the Jinx movie series will never get off the ground. And I don't know who Ra's Ghoul is, but that doesn't sound like too interesting a villain. Why can't they make the next Batman movie as good as the animated TV show was? Surely someone can take a few of those episodes and make them into a live action film.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:34 p.m. CST

    On an airplane with Quaid ?

    by Vinz

    Is that true Harry ? Come on, if it's true, wh

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:35 p.m. CST

    I don't know about Malkovich...

    by Psyclops

    He's a great actor but I don't really see him in this part. I think another talkback suggested Jeremey Irons for Ra's Al Ghul, I think that's a pretty good choice. Still, it's better than Arnold or Uma so I can't complain. I do like the idea of Dennis Quaid playing Commissioner Gordon, that's damn good casting right there. I'm really hoping that everything comes together for this movie.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:36 p.m. CST

    On an airplane with, volume II

    by Vinz

    Sorry, technical problem with my last post ! So Harry, what did you talk about with Mister Dennis ?? It never happens to me, taking the plane with Quaid. True, I live in Paris, so it would be hard, but...

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Chaffro...brother

    by Cory849

    Even though the Hulk Hogan reference in this talkback wasn't Chaffro's absolute best, I'm still writing a fan letter. The Hulk Hogan running joke is awesome. I look forward to it in every talkback - (by the way, Chaffro's best is the Faster Pussycat Kill Kill Bill with Hulk Hogan as Roy Horne joke. Awful, tasteless and I cried laughing. I'm a bad person). For everyone else - this is Chaffro's joke. Don't try to imitate it. You don't do it nearly as well...brother.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 6 p.m. CST

    batman

    by luckymontes

    personally i think gary oldman is the perfect choice for rah's al ghul

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Quaid as Gorden Kicks Ass!

    by MichaelSean

    Sure it's pure unadulturated speculation, but I just want to go on record as saying Quaid as Gorden is a fantastic idea. The one thing I always despised about Burton Batman movies was having Gorden portrayed as a fat, worthless pussy. Gorden is quite capable of kicking ass when necessary. LOVE the idea of Quaid taking that part. Still not sold on the whole Raman Noodle villain idea though. -- Sean

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 6:12 p.m. CST

    I was on a bus 2 years ago with Jamie Farr

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    AND BOY COULD HE DRINK!!!!....It was a dark and stormy night....I was on the midnight express into Buffalo when we took a brief respite in Memphis....I was admiring the pageantry of the local transvestite show when who should sit beside me but Klinger himself! I wanted to talk about

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Now the important question, Harry: Did you do the right thing a

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Gordon is KEY

    by riskebiz

    Pat Hingle as Commissioner Gordon was a travesty. Especially by the time of Batman and Robin rolled around. The relationship between Gordon and Batman is something that the movies just by-passed alltogether and it's such an important and integral part of Batman. Any great Batman story has Gordon as a major player. Year One, Killing Joke, Dark Knight Returns ... all feature Gordon in second billing and you could almost say that Year One was more Gordon than Bruce Wayne. Getting Dennis Quaid (or Kurt Russell) would be KEY and if they got that dynamic right, they'd have a special Batman film on their hands instead of merely popcorn. Malkovich will never happen. He plays Malkovich in everything he does now. I saw Ripley's Game the other day and he totally phoned it in. I think it would be great if he tried, but he doesn't anymore. I'd rather someone like Christopher Lee for Ra's Al Ghul. How about some inspired casting like Liam Neeson going against type and playing a villain as Ra's?

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Quaid as Gordon would be GREAT --

    by ChaseSequence

    -- he's always been an underrated actor. (Yes, I just said that.) But Ra's al-Ghul ... gee, you think maybe HE SHOULD BE AN ARAB?!

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Malkovich is so not Ra's

    by Anti-fanboy

    Not the Neal Adams version, the definitive version, anyway -- no, we need a different ethnic type, and someone way, way more virile and athletic. How 'bout the Rock? KIDDING! :D But more in the Rock's direction physically...

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 7:54 p.m. CST

    I'd prefer Kurt Russel as Gordon

    by mwhelan67

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Malkovich is overrated

    by GypsyTRobot

    Defoe kicks his ass. I'm sorry, I know everyone SAYS Malkovich is great, and maybe it's cause he always plays assholes, but I'm really not impressed. In Being John Malkovich he did a shitty job of being possessed by John Cusack. Everyone, even Cameron Diaz, did a better job of acting than the title character.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Malkovich is one cool motherfucker!!!

    by super Cucaracha

    Bale, Malkovich, Quaid....DAMM, Batman will be the shiznit foe shizzy beeatch!

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Wasn't Dennis Quaid......

    by jvrsn2

    Cousin Eddie? In that case "Merry Christmas, Shitter was full!" by the way the Governator is in in kal-lee-fornia, and if you are from Florida don't forget... COLTS WIN! COLTS WIN! COLTS WIN!

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 9:59 p.m. CST

    quiad

    by Lelon

    Quaid would make a great gordon, but malkovich simply isn't ra's.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 10 p.m. CST

    I'm just kidding Florida natives....

    by jvrsn2

    at least you don't have an actor-governor..

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 11:01 p.m. CST

    ssssssssomething to look forward to.

    by pipergates

    it's looking good.Bale is good,Nolan is good, Quaid as Gordon would be perfect.kurt Russell would probably do it too tough,like in Toombstone.though he does suit that big moustache. Quaaid,he's got both the toughness and the tenderness that Gordon needs. only thing i'm worried about is the script.when can we read it? Malkovich is an interesting actor,but not for R'as.he hasn't got the voice that R'as needs.he was wimpy even as Cyrus the virus.if only cristopher Lee was a bit younger.is there any actor around with a voice as good?.agent Smith could be an interesting r'as,hugo Weaving.he doesnt have the voice either,but he would be intense enough.gary Oldman perhaps.he's got the menace but does he have that much power?and he's a bit small.tcheky Karyo could be good... jeremy Irons is not a bad choice.and neither is willem Dafoe.or maybe that monk at the beginning of The fifth element,who was trying to poison the grappa?

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Good casting choice, Big Bad Clone

    by scythe1138

    Can't believe I overlooked that one. Stamp is Ra's incarnate.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 11:45 p.m. CST

    by pipergates

    terence Stamp is good.i hope you all saw him as a transvestite together with hugo Weaving and guy Pearce.fantastic. he looks like R'as,but unless R'as'es youth-juice was running out he's a bit too old.and a bit too mild too.

  • Oct. 8, 2003, 11:56 p.m. CST

    Quaid Is A Good Choice For Gordon

    by Barron34

    I am reversing myself on this. At first I was concerned that Quaid might be too big a star for Gordon, and could end up blowing Christian Bale off the screen, but I have reconsidered. Slap a mustache on Quaid and set him up as Gordon. These casting signals are a good sign for this movie. My single biggest suggestion to the filmmakers: start off with a tough and dark Year One vibe, and set Bale up for long career as a franchise Batman. Good luck.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:48 a.m. CST

    I hope the Quaid rumor is true.

    by Mosquito March

    I love the idea of Dennis Quaid as Gordon. Actually, I would like to have seen Quaid tackle an older, more mature, Vietnam veteren Punisher. But, I think Quaid as Gordon to Christian Bale's Batman would be unbelievably cool. I finally got around to watching EQUILIBRIUM, and as derivative as it was, I found it very entertaining, and Bale blew me away. As a rule, action roles just aren't acted that intensely, anymore, and I think that's the main reason I stuck with it. (Also, I found the action great, and much more convincing - much more humanly possible - than THE MATRIX.) I'm not a fan of Nolan - I think he still has a great deal of convincing to do. But, if signing Bale and putting Batman up against Ra's is any sign, I am very, very intrigued by this project. Dennis Quaid would be another big feather in its cap. Malkovich as Ra's, on the other hand, would be a detriment. But, I believe that if Malkovich is eventually signed to this film as a character, it would not be for Ra's, but for the Scarecrow. I assume that rumor about Scarecrow being in it has not been shot down, and I could buy scenery-chewer Malkovich in THAT role. (Just think about his taunts to Eastwood about fear in IN THE LINE OF FIRE.)

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:55 a.m. CST

    no offense to Mr. Malkovich, but...

    by fabfunk

    Doesn't Al Ghul need to be buff? I figured there would be a scene, much like in the animated series, where Ghul goes shirtless and takes on Batman fist to fist. Malkovich couldn't pull that off without looking silly. As Scarecrow, though, that would be pretty damn cool. Also, who would play Ra'Z Al Ghul's daughter?

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:59 a.m. CST

    If you really wanted to mess up Ra's....

    by Mosquito March

    Cast the dude who played the tribal chief in STARGATE, the professor in MUMMY RETURNS, and Elektra's dad in DAREDEVIL.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 1:23 a.m. CST

    yo, mosquito-

    by mr. smith

    you'r talking about ever-present character actor Erick Avari. not a bad idea, but a little too short. plus Ra's needs a comanding voice. oh, for Yul Brenner. that would be sweet, but for the fact that he's dead...

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 1:31 a.m. CST

    yo zorg -

    by mr. smith

    y'know, i think you're selling Hugo Weaving's voice short. if anything, i think Weaving has got the voice, and even the face(with a little olive-skin makup), but what weaving lacks is physical stature. personally, i'd go on a talant search in india and find some badass indian unknown. wait a minute- hold the phone. Stanly Tucci. yeah. call me crazy but i like the idea...

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 1:32 a.m. CST

    p.s. the Quaid idea ROCKS!!!

    by mr. smith

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Hey, Mosquito

    by super Cucaracha

    I agree with you... Bale kicked fucking ass in Equilibrium. When I was watching the movie I knew Bale was Batman. The action was the shit. Cooool ass movie.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 2:10 a.m. CST

    Andreas Katsulas?

    by DMented

    Yeah, yeah, he's a bit old for the part -- but someone throw this poor prick a break, HE LOOKS JUST LIKE RA'S! Always getting parts where he has to wear tons of makeup ... FIVE YEARS playing a reptile (marsupial, whatever) on B5 ... the man has paid his dues. But you just know they're gonna pass him over for the one part he would need NO MAKEUP WHATSOEVER to play. You can't make this shit up! And for Malkovich, who looks just as old! The fuckin IRONY.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Kalutas?!?

    by mr. smith

    my problem with Kalutas is you need a Ra's that you could concievably see kicking the shit out of batman. i just don't see that in the one armed man...

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 2:40 a.m. CST

    new game new hope

    by mayaV

    Everything will be better than the last one! Really. I've been a fan of batman since, oh, I guess my hole lifetime. I was fine with Batman I-III, but when Mr. ER got the job it went down. Sounds like a good cast so far. PS: I love B5 and I think G'Kar and Londo are the best love-and-hate characters out in space. I WANT THEM BACK!!!

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 2:41 a.m. CST

    new game new hope

    by mayaV

    Everything will be better than the last one! Really. I've been a fan of batman since, oh, I guess my hole lifetime. I was fine with Batman I-III, but when Mr. ER got the job it went down. Sounds like a good cast so far. PS: I love B5 and I think G'Kar and Londo are the best love-and-hate characters out in space. I WANT THEM BACK!!!

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 2:42 a.m. CST

    new game new hope

    by mayaV

    Everything will be better than the last one! Really. I've been a fan of batman since, oh, I guess my hole lifetime. I was fine with Batman I-III, but when Mr. ER got the job it went down. Sounds like a good cast so far. PS: I love B5 and I think G'Kar and Londo are the best love-and-hate characters out in space. I WANT THEM BACK!!!

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 3:22 a.m. CST

    D D Lewis

    by Donlad

    Malcovich would be spot on as the scarecrow, not so sure about Ra,s, possibly.However to my mind one actor would be terrific as Ra,s.Daniel Day Lewis.Think about it he,s got the brooding look,the right physical build and he is an actor known for being able to play powerfully dramatic roles better than nearly every other actor on the planet.Whether he would be interested playing a role in a comic book movie is another matter.Regardless Nolan has proved himself to be a talented and thoughtful director when casting his films, so I am sure whoever ends up playing Ra,s will be the right man.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 5:20 a.m. CST

    mr. smith: I wasn't serious about Avari. That was a joke.

    by Mosquito March

    He's always cast as these comedic Egyptian or Greek characters, and doesn't possess an ounce of menace. If he were signed to play Ra's, that would be the end of all hope for the movie. That's what I was trying to convey, anyway.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 5:31 a.m. CST

    mayaV: Don't blame Clooney.

    by Mosquito March

    If he'd been cast in a serious Batman movie, he would have been great. Of all the Batmen, he looked the most like Bruce Wayne/Batman, and he can play dark. He was great on SISTERS, of all shows. He played this mentally disturbed cop that fell in love with Sela Ward's character. And, I thought he played his pissed-off-and-vengeful role in FROM DUSK TILL DAWN well, and was dragged down by the ridiculousness of the story. And, his muted performance in SOLARIS was the only good thing about that POS. I think he could have been the best Batman, if the material and helmer had allowed, just as it had for Michael Keaton. That said, Bale is poised to kick the crap out of all previous Batmen.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 5:36 a.m. CST

    DevilCat: Malkovich turned down a three-ring Sam Raimi circus, o

    by Mosquito March

    If he's working with actors' actors like Bale and Quaid, for a hot indie director that just worked with Pacino and is supposedly using BLADE RUNNER as inspiration, he might sing a different tune about playing a comic book character. After all, this is a guy who played a character named "Cyrus the Virus" in CON AIR.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 5:48 a.m. CST

    ok, mosquito

    by mayaV

    See, Cloony can do a great job, but he didn't do in Batman! He was terrific in From Dusk Till Dawn. No doubt! But true, it was the whole package.. No blame on Cloony alone, he's simply NOT Batman. (so wasn't Kilmer)

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 6:18 a.m. CST

    This is cool...

    by Lujho

    If this is true and people at WB read these forums to guage reactions (which I believe they do to some extent) let me add my voice.************ Quaid as Gordon... rock on, he'd be fucking perfect. Malkovich as Ra's... well, he's not really suited to the role I think... he'd be a much better scarecrow if that character is indeed still in the movie.************** For Ra's, I think a good suggestion which I read here once on a talkback is Oded Fehr of The Mummy. He's young (maybe a little too young but that could be fixed... maybe he could have age make-up before regeneration in the pit and no-make-up after that, strong, virile, imposing (definitely a believable physical match for Bale) and of the right racial appearance. If they do cast in a racially-accurate way then they'd have to cast some ethnic-looking young hottie as Talia.

  • Malkovich is too light in the loafers to pull off Ra's Al Ghul effectively. Jason Isaacs would be much better casting, and the WB has used him in HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS, so here's hoping they make the right call and kick Malkovich to the curb. Dennis Quaid is an interesting choice for Gordon, however, but how does he look with a mustache?

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 8:54 a.m. CST

    - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!! - that Jamie Farr thingie was

    by Spacesheik

    ROFL. Ok the fanboys out there you said the commisoner gordon-batman relation was discarded in the movies were right. dennis quaid or kurt russell would both rock as gordon. its true gordon can kick ass also, and he drinks beer and shit and cheats on his wife also.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Casting

    by E Albert Bansom

    Daniel Day Lewis as Rha's........ Billy Bob Thornton as Scarecrow (Check out LEVITY).........Quad is TOO DOPEY for Gordon!!!! Didn't you see how flaming he was in "Traffic???" He was LISPING for pete's sake!!!

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 11:11 a.m. CST

    John Sturges "Batman: Intimidation Game"

    by E Albert Bansom

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 11:37 a.m. CST

    curse this damn Alzheimer's

    by Hud

    but for Ra's al Ghul, what about that big strapping buck who played the title role in The Mummy? he can't be all that busy.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 11:53 a.m. CST

    R'as Al Ghul

    by Mak

    Fellas methinks the right guy to play the demon is ...... TERENCE STAMP Just think of him with his hair dyed. Not of a dark black but a black with some grey hairs, the intense look in his eyes that denotes all the lifetimes he's lived. I think Malkovich would get a bit loud to my taste. I think he's a great actor; don't get me wrong but I do not think he's right for the role. Mr. Nolan I hope you are reading this.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Dennis Quaid has a beer and cheats on his brother Randy!

    by DonliQ

    It had to be said!

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Burt reynolds should be Gordon

    by Blok Narpin

    Man, he'd be great. He LOOKS like im Gordon! All he needs is the trench coat and pipe!

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Ras Al Ghoul casting

    by Spacesheik

    The perfect Ras Al Ghoul would be someone like Ben Cross or Christopher Walken. Terence Stamp is good too. Or the baddie in TRUE LIES, something Shah.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Crispin Glover

    by Mr Nuff

    He is the freaking Scarecrow!

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Malkovich is not auditioning for Al Ghul but is for another Al..

    by namtab39

    Alfred Pennyworth. nuff said.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 1:50 p.m. CST

    point taken 'squit

    by mr. smith

    and a sigh of relief...

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Daniel Day Al Ghul !!!

    by pipergates

    Daniel day Lewis as Ra's would steal the movie.that would be incredible. Crispin Glover would be a pretty cool Scarecrow...

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Who plays Talia? Monica Bellucci? Patricia Velazquez?

    by Drath

    Both might be too old next to Bale as Batman. Just so long as she's not Jennifer Garner or a Jennifer Garner type. Can't you just see them going there too? But anyway I would definitly NOT get a body builder to play her dad. He needs to be a convincing physical threat, but not big like the Rock. I'd CG his muscles before I'd go there. He should be someone with an authoritative edge both after the lazarus pit and before it when he's old and fragile. I rather like the Terrance Stamp suggestion.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Hell yes,

    by DocPazuzu

    Terrence Stamp as Ras. Anyone who's seen The Limey knows Stamp may be an older guy, but you wouldn't want to mess with him. He's the perfect tough-as-nails choice. Kelly Hu for Talia. You know you want it.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Talia

    by The S man

    If only Catherine-Zeta Jones were 5 to 10 years younger she would be the perfect physical type for Talia Al Ghul. Maybe even Eva Mendes, wether or not she has the acting chops to pull the part off I don't know. But the Daniel Day Lewis idea as Ras I like.

  • Oct. 9, 2003, 10:01 p.m. CST

    mayaV: What did I just say?

    by Mosquito March

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 4:33 a.m. CST

    no chance, mosquito

    by mayaV

    Guess the both of us have a different opinion on Batman. Maybe we come to some point of agreement with the next Batman movie. Sorry

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Ra's al Ghul should be played by

    by I tried

    STING! Why does no one see this? Sting can act, he's athletic, and he';s got the defined, sharp, arrogant features. Just picture him going mad after a dip in the Lazarus pit. It's gold, baby, pure gold!

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 7:01 p.m. CST

    BladeRunnerUnit

    by DocPazuzu

    You know what? You're really starting to annoy me. I sympathize with some of the things you've said on certain TBs, but I'm detecting a pattern. There's nary a TB you participate in withoug finding some kneejerk way to slam the United States. Right (as you are sometimes) or wrong (as you also are sometimes), it doesn't really matter anymore since all that seems to be of any importance to you is finding some far-fetched excuse to attack America. What's your problem anyway? Why can't you just talk movies without either trying to be offensive, or not caring whether you are being offensive or not? Grow up and the right-on pseud politics at home -- or in the dorm where people still think it's profound and cutting edge.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 7:02 p.m. CST

    correction

    by DocPazuzu

    That should be "leave the right-on pseud politics at home."

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 9:23 p.m. CST

    DocPazazu, you

    by Rain_Dog

    I think you misconsutrued BladeRunnerUnit's comment, or maybe I did - I thought it was just a somewhat vogueish reference to an early Cure song (based on Camus' The Stranger) rather than a stab at US foriegn policy. I could be wrong.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 9:23 p.m. CST

    DocPazazu, you

    by Rain_Dog

    I think you misconsutrued BladeRunnerUnit's comment, or maybe I did - I thought it was just a somewhat vogueish reference to an early Cure song (based on Camus' The Stranger) rather than a stab at US foriegn policy. I could be wrong.

  • Oct. 10, 2003, 9:25 p.m. CST

    Er, "misconstrued", sorry. Sorry about the double post. I'm ti

    by Rain_Dog

  • Oct. 11, 2003, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Rain_Dog

    by DocPazuzu

    Fair point. In fact, I probably wouldn't have reacted to BRU's comment under other circumstances, but the guy has made such predictable, political statements in virtually every other TB he's contributed to. If I did misunderstand him, it's to a large degree due to the way he's previously conditioned outside perception of his intent.

  • Oct. 11, 2003, 4:15 p.m. CST

    only bats

    by pipergates

    get some exotic european actress to play Talia.preferrebly a french or italian one.Eva Mendez is a good choise,but she's latina pues.and stop talking "psycho" politics,no more insulting the corporate dictator arab-killing president Bush!

  • Oct. 11, 2003, 9:34 p.m. CST

    actually moviemack...

    by DocPazuzu

    it's not "pseudo politics" at all, since that is something completely different. If you don't know your transatlantic vernacular, then I suggest you spend your time commenting on other things. As for pretentiousness, I'll let your post stand for itself.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Good thing the plane didnt crash due to a heavy load

    by Bong

    just kidding

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Moviemack

    by DocPazuzu

    Man, you really got me there. I'm literally reeling from the blows.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Wasn't there already a Jimmy the Gent that sent in articles here

    by SwitchDogShits

    I'm sure there was. ...... Oh, sorry to interrupt your fighting.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Oh my god, it isn't like CHUD!

    by SwitchDogShits

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Oh my god, it isn't like CHUD!

    by SwitchDogShits

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Damn enter key! My spelling wasn't perfect!

    by SwitchDogShits

    I beg all of your collective pardons. For my screenname too.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 12:39 p.m. CST

    BRU

    by DocPazuzu

    I've never asked you to apologize for anything. However, I apologize for misreading your comment earlier in this particular talkback. Nevertheless, you yourself are guilty of the same sort of generalization you find so lamentable in others. Just for your information, there are plenty of Americans who don't fit into either of the two categories you seem to have decided to divide the country into. There are some of us -- lots in fact -- who aren't conservatives or even republicans who support America's war effort, as there are plenty of conservatives who don't. I've spent over 20 years living in Europe and am constantly coming into contact with besserwissers who, with rare exception, attribute the most complex and multifaceted characteristics to all peoples of the Earth EXCEPT Americans. Apparently, while both ridiculing and denouncing the two-dimensional image of the American in popular culture as both trite and phony, it's still okay to treat real Americans as if they really are that way. I'm not saying there aren't huge numbers of stereotypical Americans running around, but I take offense at immediately being considered as one of them just because of my passport. Your attempt at "teaching" me about the popcultural preference of youth in the Arab world is nothing but your assumption that I'm a poor ignorant Yank who doesn't know or care about anything else in the world. It's no less offensive than a redneck American tourist going to Portugal and speaking English really LOUD and SLOW thinking you poor ignorant Europeans will understand it better that way. How's that for "food for thought"? Also, your posts on the AICN TBs are in no way limited to the current U.S. administration (which I didn't vote for, by the way). Your talk of the "middle way" as being the only way to truth is blatantly dishonest on your part. You have participated in many TBs and made comments pertaining to U.S. policies throughout history, and I have yet to see one where America ends up on the correct side of your so-called "middle road."... Peace.

  • Oct. 12, 2003, 4:49 p.m. CST

    This is a DC comics movie, and they seem to be doing everything

    by St.Buggering

    There's a hitch here somewhere, I know it.