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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
I’m not a big DR. WHO fan. I don’t dislike the show. It’s just that I never really lived anywhere that it aired in any sort of regular fashion, and by the time I caught up with a few episodes out of continuity, it didn’t really make much sense to me.
I do know enough to know that if I’m ever chased by a Dalek, I should find some stairs. Beyond that, I’m going to leave the news up to the real fans today...
Hey there,
I don't know if somebody's already sent you this info, but listening to the radio this morning I heard that our lovely BBC has just commissioned six new episodes of 'Dr Who'.
They are to be written by Russell T. Davies (who wrote the UK version of'Queer As Folk'), and current men in the casting line are Paul McGann (who of course played the Dr last time), Richard E. Grant (would be a great return-to-form for him, I think), and unfortunately, Alan Davies (weird comedien).
No sign so far of Giles 'Anthony Head' name in the mix - but I'm still hoping.
If you use this, just call me Sweet Pea xWait... does this mean that both Withnail and “I” are in line to play the Doctor? Or is there a chance they’ll both show up in these new episodes as different characters? Because anything that reunites McGann and Grant is automatically the greatest fucking thing ever made. Ever.
Here’s what someone else had to say, complete with a link:
Harry or Moriarty,
I'm betting that word of this may have reached your ears already, but maybe not.
Here is a link to the news article concerning the TV return of Doctor Who.
I'll just say that I wouldn't send this if I were uncertain of its validity. Even more, the place that posted it would definitely not post news of this magnitude in a confident manner if they weren't believers. (We DW fans are extremely acquainted with rumors and red herrings!)
Rob aka. Darth ChristTrue dat on the rumors front when it comes to DR. WHO. For now, take all of this with a grain of salt, but I sure hope it happens for the fans who have kept hope alive all this time...
"Moriarty" out.
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We can show you yanks that good science fiction doesn't have to be all special effects and CGI.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3140786.stm
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Alan Davies was _Jonathan Creek_!
I love REG and Paul McGann in many ways, but Alan Davies would *so* rule in the role. -
Sep 26, 2003 4:21:27 AM CDT
There's boatloads of people that could play the Doc, and they al
by dastickboy
I mean, the character's not exactly taxing is he?
"Yeah, we need you to act eccentric. Great, you've nailed it!" -
I despise this man in everything he is done and he is just such a twat and smarmy git on ave I Got News for You.
Please not him, don't wreck Dr Who's comeback cos if it doesn't fly this time then I doubt it will get another chance. -
And that, my friends, is the entire scope of my knowledge of Dr. Who.
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...to see how they go about it. Cause for regenerating into Paul McGann, they got Sylvester McCoy in. Would they get McGann in to do the regeneration into the new guy (assuming they go with a new guy and not stick with McGann). If so, that's the shortest regeneration the Doc's ever had! Other option would be to take the 'Doctor Who : Year One' route, and start the whole thing off again... could work, although, I'm not sure how the fans would take it. :o)
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Well, it's been confirmed by the BBC. It IS gonna happen.
Apparently it's basically gonna be both a continuation AND a reboot.... which is the best way to go. How I mean both... I mean, we wont see a regeneration, or will the Doctor have any baggage from the past, except for the TARDIS, a sexy companion, and a jolly good story.
Just how it all started, really. -
I doubt that he would be offered the role today, but does anyone know if the actor that played The Master in the original series is still alive? That guy was a fantastic arch-nemesis. The casting of the Doctor is certainly a very important choice, but the actor who plays The Master will have to be great as well. ... ... And larry_1066, you sure are right about Dr. Who being good without great special effects! The original series had some of the absolute worst costumes and effects I have ever seen! lol Really ghastly stuff. Remember that one alien that was composed of a single eyeball with legs! Man!
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... just to get the ball rolling... Tom Baker was the best Doctor!
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Bullshit. That goes to William Hartnell. The first and the best! Well, that's what I think, anyway.
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Waye eyee mon them fukkin daleks keep on comin mon.
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Which Master do you mean? Do you mean the original Master? Do you mean the ugly dude who played him in two episodes? Or the guy who played him in the '80s? If you mean the original Master, you mean Roger Delgado, and he's dead as dillenger. He died in a auto accident in the 70s. One of the other Masters (Jeoferry Beevers) is still playing the Master in the Big Finish audio episodes, and if you mean the Master who was in the 1980s, well, he don't wanna play the Master anymore. Still, I think they're gonna cast someone new. Rumor has it that DEREK JACOBI will be playing The Master in a new webcast starting November... SCREAM OF THE SHALKA (Which has nothing to do with the new series, BTW)
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Ok.
I'm a brit.
I have a certain loyalty to the Dr being played by a Brit.
However, wouldn't Angus Scrim be awsome
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I would love to see either Paul McGann come back OR Richard E. Grant take over. Having them both in would be incredible. Withnail & I is in my opinion the funniest film ever, and the prode of my DVD collection. If the BBC's casting director for the show doesn't get one or both of them in, 'then the fucker will rue the day!'
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..must be the Doctor. Few Brit actors can pull of weird and not come off looking a complete a***.
Also hearing a lot of feedback that the Dcotor could even be female. Not an altogether ridiculous notion.
Helen Mirren would ace it but a bit too big league i feel. How about Holly Aird, or Julia Sawalha (maybe not Julia Sawalha...) -
Actually, looking at that Angus Scrimm painting, that could be an interesting choice. Besides... Tom Baker was cast as the Doctor after the producers saw him playing a bad guy, and all the best Doctors (Pat Troughton, Tom Baker, Paul McGann) have played villains.
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Richard E. Grant plays him it the BBC webcast animated series, and Paul McGann in the TV Show. Obviously someone on the Who casting team is a Withnail fan!
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And Alan Davies is too ingrained as Jonathan Creek to play the doc. Would be nice if McGann could do it for a few years, but I think they should get someone who will stay the distance. My mate Mark says he'll do it! Um ...
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Let's hope they let McGann play the Doctor again, despite the TV Movie's shortcomings, I thought his performance straight out of the box was fantastic!
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i think the best choice would be to go against all expectations. a successful dr. needs great comedic timing.
my second choice: terry jones -
Apart from those awesome Big Finish CD adventures and a webcast or two, Paul McGann has only had one chance to portray The Doctor on television. After making the audios, McGann has his Eighth Doctor nailed down pat and deserves at least one TV season of DOCTOR WHO. If McGann passes, I say give it to Richard E Grant, who has been selected as the new Ninth Doctor for another audio adventure.
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I suppose the BBC could've announced that I was playing the Doctor...
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The problem with the suggestions so far with the exception of withnail is that the Dr was always one of the scariest things about the show.
He was never a kindly effable loveable buffoon, right from the start he was abrupt with his assistants, aloof because of his knowledge, Most incarnations were unhinged and verged on psychotic.
You need someone who can be smart and charismatic but at the same time edgy and dangerous.
McGann was the first Doctor I saw played as likeable and that was a mistake, The Dr never gave a shit about his assistants unless they were putting him or the universe in danger, he was detached from these mortals he regarded as petty and beneath him.
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I wonder how long will it take the BBC to show it in the States? Come on BBC America, show some stones and bring back Who to prep the masses for the new stuff. Oh and one more vote for Tom Baker!!!!!
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the one that had you hiding behind the couch....so for me Tom Baker is the one. And I agree with previous comments, the Dr is supposed to be a scary bloke.
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Hey you Limey fucks! As the last American Whovian this news floors me. Hopefully they'll air these simultaniously on BBC America. I had a feeling this was going to happen since the BBC is finally appreciating DR. WHO for the great Sci-Fi franchise you and I always knew it was. I knew when they launched this killer new official site earlier this year(http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/)and they put all the work into the new DVD sets that they were gearing up for this. ABOUT FUCKING TIME. It's won't be on the air for another year and a half but it'll be worth wait. Personally my favorite Doctor was always Troughton because his adventures always reeked of the psychodelic times in which they were filmed especially shit like "The Mind Robber". You could almost watch that whole serial with the sound turned down and crank up "Piper At The Gates of Dawn". Anyhow I think this series will work if they update all the tech for The Daleks, Cybermen, etc but KEEP THE DOCTOR AND HIS TARDIS THE SAME. That big church Tardis from the TV movie sucked.
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ERIC ROBERTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Piper at the Gates of Dawn. *That* I just gotta try; sounds much cooler than "Oz" and Dark Side. McGann should be the Doc with Richard E. as a backup choice if that doesn't work out. Anyone else is heresy!!!!!!
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I'd been hoping for a new Doctor Who series for years and have seen/heard all the other false start rumors as well. I hope this isn't one of them. As for casting, I'm going to toss a name from out of left field here because the person certainly has the stage presence and potential quirkiness needed for the role. My choice for The Doctor: Peter Woodward. If not for The Doctor, then at least for The Master (if that character is to be used again). He was the only redeeming factor from "Crusade" and has been woefully misused in most of his other roles.
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Sep 26, 2003 1:14:33 PM CDT
Lupe - "McGann was the first Doctor I saw played as likeable and
by spyguy
I guess you never saw Peter Davison then. Davison simply ruled, back in the day. I can understand wanting the Doctor to have a dark edge to him, as with Sylvester McCoy, but if you make him too unlikable, then you have a Doctor like Colin Baker's, who wasn't overly popular.
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in a snobbish sorta way. Troughton, although he showed the occasional dark side, was for the most part very likable. Davison definitely. And really so was Tom Baker. He was a damn likable Doctor. He got pissed off from time to time when megalomaniacs tried to take over the universe, but for the most part he was a pretty laid back, charming kinda guy.
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TheComedian you're not the "last" American Doctor Who fan... there are thousands of us, we still have conventions and there are clubs and so forth. And it's my website that Moriarty quotes as being the site of the news (Outpost Gallifrey, www.gallifreyone.com) and I'm in America. :-) Needless to say a lot of us think this is very good news indeed!
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perhaps he meant that he was the last american to finally discover the series.
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Thank you Shaun Lyon for once again reminding everyone of the hallowed spot you occupy in DW fandom whilst simultaneuously plugging your "award-winning" website. It's a beautiful thing. No really, it is. Seriously...it is.
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It seems like over the past 10 years I've met fewer and fewer people who were into Doctor Who. I mean as far as geek circles go. Whenever I bring up Doctor Who to people who are into sci-fi, comics or what have you they usually look at me like they don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I don't think I've had a conversation(other than on the web) about Doctor Who with anyone in 11 years at least. I joke that I'm the last American Whovian because I thought was. I also made that joke since this talkback seemed to be filled with brits when I posted that. Maybe there just isn't any "new blood" amongst Doctor Who fans. I mean even when I started watching it on my local PBS station when I was 15 most of the people I did have conversations with about the Doctor where well in their 30s and that was 12 years ago. Hopefully this new series will bring about a whole new generation of Whovians on both sides of the pond. One character they need to bring back at least for one serial anyhow is Romana. I mean, they can get anyone to play her since she's probably regenerated a few times by now. Eventhough Tom Baker's not my favorite Doctor I always dug Romana because she was pretty much the Doctor's equal as opposed to a perpetual hostage like all the other companions.
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I agree. Peter Woodward should be involved in this somewhere. Heck, Edward Woodward should be there too. I miss The Equalizer. =(
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RojBlake: Gee, bitter much?... TheComedian: believe me there are tons of Doctor Who fans out there, a lot more than you might think. :) Hopefully we'll see this a lot more quickly than we would have 10-15 years ago when it took years for it to make it over here :)
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Tom Baker had that madman smile. Colin Baker had his wild egomaniacal rants. Peter Davison was always dark and pained - for the youngest Doctor of his time, he always felt like the oldest. Troughton, Hartnell, McCoy - even Pertwee, under his Bond-era camp visage, had his edge. The Doctor is always supposed to be GOOD, unquestionably, but he's always had a second, more troubled nature, bristling just under the warmeartedness and the goofy antics. That's what keeps him REALLY interesting (and the lack of such is one of the things that made McCann so lackluster).
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He would be fantastic if he could be talked into doing it.
I still think Anthony Head would be fantastic as the new Doctor.
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...and he can do it brilliantly, too. Check out his turn in the recent miniseries "Forgotten". Or his character Golic in "Alien3" (much of his performance should be restored on the upcoming DVD release). If there were holes in his TV movie portrayal, I'd blame the script before I'd blame the actor. Long live the 8th Doctor!
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There are probably less US fans because of the lack of PBS stations airing the show during the early evening. When I was growng up in the 80's I got the show where ever I moved to (and I moved a LOT as a kid). Now Lionheart charges too much for the re-runs for a lot of PBS stations to air the show. Plus cash flow for PBS has been tight since Discovery and the History Channel have taken over the market for educational programming (sure, it verges increasingly on edutainment - but I feel strangely complete now that I know what happens when you strap a rocket motor to an Impala). PBS just doesn't seem quite as neccesary now that its functions are being fulfilled by half-a-dozen cable channels. The decline of PBS has had a lot to do with the deterioration of the Who fan base, and the influx of new fans is virtually nil now because a) it is not airing at good times for younger viewers to pick it up and b) with cable TV it is less likely a young geekly person will chance upon the show while flipping through the TV. I only was introduced to the show in my childhood because at 7PM in the evening the other 4 channels on my TV were airing nothing but that interested me, and this odd guy with the long scarf who traveled in a blue phone booth seemed like it was worth a shot. I watched a few shows, and was hooked. It became my gateway drug to Star Trek, B5 and Farscape. These days, I just don't see as many kinds that age who will be lacking in fun things to watch, with Nick, Cartoon Network, and Disney to attract their attention with lots of action and high production values. If this reboot is done well, they could sell the show to a new generation. Hopefully it will air on BBC America (which most young boys will be checking on a regular basis just to see if they are showing some boobage), instead of PBS, which I don't think anyone watches anymore unless something really good is on Frontline (even Masterpiece Theater is getting pretty bad now that A&E is grabbing the really good British shows like MI-5). Maybe they need to start a children's line of Doctor Who literary adventures and try to snag some young Potterheads to try to build a younger fansbase. I think there would be a lot of crossover appeal if you did it right. Maybe someone could sweet talk JK Rowling into possibly kicking of a children's series after she is done with the last two Harry Potter books. I'm almost willing bet she was a fan when she was growing up - Voldemort has a Masterish quality to him, especially how he managed to bring himself back from near death and defeat to become more powerful and dangerous. It could just be because they are both real archetypal villians, but maybe it is a bit more. If I were the company that had publishing rights to Who, I'd at least send out a few feelers.
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WITHNAIL is one of THE great performances of all time.
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Former Marillion singer Fish NEEDS to be the new Doctor (and not just because he needs a job)... His personality would be a perfect fit...He's gruff, funny, crazy and loveable, all at the same time...
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This means nothing to us "yanks" unless BBC America picks it up. And they should start it all off with a big into for all the new viewers. Like, who is this guy? What's the whole deal with the phone booth? Why should we care?
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Good call pretenditscool! Terrence Stamp would be just about ideal for The Master.
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Withnail is *the* greatest performance of all time. Marwood is likely a very close second. ;-)
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I'm yet another American DW fan. I've been one ever since seeing Tom Baker and Peter Davison on PBS in the early 80s. We fans have been teased before, so seeing this on the BBC website was mindblowing! I remember when DW was huge all over the US, especially here in the South. Patrick Troughton was even at a convention in Georgia when he died. I agree that under a certain age Dr. Who is unknown to sci-fi/fantasy fans. I've been trying to change that, by turning my nephew and my girlfriend's little brother into fans. I showed them the DVDs, they loved them just as much as any Harry Potter DVD!
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This is truly great news. I've been a longtime fan of the series, and wished the BBC never stopped it in 1989 after 26 years. No more false rumours that show up the odd time like these past 14 years. Except the 1996 TV movie, no new live-action Doctor Who production has been done since then (whether to count the various brand new Dr. Who CD audio adventures from Big Finish Productions since 1999 is debateable, where Paul McGann has been reprising the Eighth Doctor).
I still think McGann is the most obvious choice to play the Doctor in this new series. He has to be given a chance to increase his Doctor's era. And 2005 is getting to be too far away, as it will be 9 years since he played the part. He's in his early 40s now, and the BBC should not be letting him depart from being the contender to play the role.
Other than the earlier announcement of Richard E. Grant being cast as the official Ninth Doctor (only voicing the part through an animated webcast to appear on the official BBC Dr. Who site in November for the 40th anniversary celebrations), Paul McGann has to be the Doctor for this new series. Its about high time that Doctor Who returns (getting tired of other sci-fi shows like what the tired "Star Trek" franchise has become). Hopefully, this new 6 part series does well to become an ongoing series once again, and continue to be what its best known as: the world's longest running science fiction series.
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60 friggin channels and not one of them carries DOCTOR WHO! None, zilch, nada. Got plenty of M*A*S*H and Perry Mason reruns though.
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http://www.shillpages.com/dw/story-8.shtml
For those of you not living in the UK, check out this link to the BBC's Children in Need Dr Who special. Starring Rowan Atkinson, Hugh Grant, Richard E Grant, Jim Broadbent and Joanna Lumley as the Doctor. Jonathan Pryce as the Master. -
Thank God the British are reviving Doctor Who. As much as I liked McGann in the BBC/Fox TV version, it was far too cheaply "Americanized" (guns, car chases, etc.). What I loved about Doctor Who back in the day was the fact that the good Doctor always relied upon his wits, as opposed to his fists or weapons. Plus the fact that it had such a great, romantic Holmesian feel amid all the science fiction trappings, and witty, well-written BBC scripts to boot. Maybe this will lead a renaissance or revival of British television SF. I hope so, because the classic stuff formed some of my best childhood memories (Blakes' 7, The Tripods, The Tomorrow People, old Quatermass tapes, etc.)
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Sep 27, 2003 2:11:07 PM CDT
I was hoping to never hear the term "Americanized" ever again
by ejcarter9
I heard it from 1996 to 2000 when the arguments were being thrown about for the failure of Fox to pick up DW as a series. The writing was just lazy, which is why you had guns and car chases. If you want to call lazy writing "Americanized", fine, that's on you, but it's not indicative of American television as a whole. ____ American television IS a hole. ____ shut up.
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For 14 years, I've wondered when they would bring this show back. Who has made millions for the BBC in merchandising alone, so one wonders why no one thought about producing another series. Obviously, cost factored in. When the show ended in 1989, it was an expensive show for the BBC to produce. I just never could understand why they never tried for some co-production. I realize that opens a whole new kettle of fishes, but it could've worked. Still, I'm glad to see the show will retain it's Britishness. While the 1996 FOX movie was all right, it lacked a certain charm -thus the car chases and things. Doctor Who tried that once, during the Pertwee era (The "James Bond" time). It worked because Pertwee was the right Doctor for type of characterization. The same as Troughton was as the "dandy" doctor during his run. Tom Baker made Who famous in America, but Peter Davidson remains, perhaps, the most stylish actor to play the role. Baker was fine, I loved the way he became invovled in stopping the end of the universe. But Peter Davidson gave the Doctor humanity. I would love to see Paul McGann return, as he played the role better than the last few. Say what you will, McCoy's Doctor became to dark, too bitter. And Colin Baker was just miscast. I have hope that Russell Davies will write a great series, and just a personal note, I would like to see him create an openly gay companion, along with a hot chick for the straight boys. That would be modern.
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My point was that I was tired of hearing the term "Americanized" back when this was originally debated and I didn't want to hear it again. I'm glad you brought up the fact that the writer was British and quite honestly I didn't remember that, so I don't know what the hell everyone was talking about back in '96. But the story was lacking, and quite honestly I'll bet the chases were used to fill up time. ehhhhh... kinda like running down corridors and through quarries, maybe? Well, maybe Doctor Who never had the GREATEST of scripts, but us, the fans, love the show anyway.
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