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What are they building in Shepperton for BATMAN: INTIMIDATION! Ra's Al Ghul'

Hey folks, Harry here... Ok... ok... I'm getting excited. I think, I think I know what they are planning on doing for the new BATMAN film... This report doesn't seem to know, but it has the key clues. I believe that Christopher Nolan and David Goyer have decided to make a Ra's Al Ghul BATMAN film. The clues below seem to point to that. If so... this film will own everyone. It would mean the young Batman would fall for a young and sexy and cool Talia. That you would have the astonishing cool of the immortal Ra's Al Ghul... and I would be doing backflips for days on end. The plot thickens...

Hi there Harry,

I live in Shepperton village, England, about 3 minetes from the Studio. the pub that I drink in often has film crew and extras having a pint or two. I asked around after reading your Batman news and it seems that the rumours are true. A member of the construction crew told me the sets are being constructed including a giant lair in the shape of a spiders web. Speculating, the only thing that i can think of would be the black widow played in the the 60s by Bette Davis. There is also supposed to be a few of the sets with a strong egyptian theme but he was fuzzy on the detials as they are only head height in order to make room for the remainder of them to be computer generated.

Role on next year thats what I say!

Nettleduke

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  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:24 a.m. CST

    owned

    by mrshlubb

    ;)

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:25 a.m. CST

    FIRST

    by PO-ed Crawdad

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:25 a.m. CST

    First

    by BungleTrousers

    At last.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Damn, almost

    by PO-ed Crawdad

    Well, this movie could definitely be interesting, since they're using a villain that's less known to the mainstream. I'm interested.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:30 a.m. CST

    I prefer a Batman grounded in reality

    by vikingkitty

    Doesn't the idea of an immortal that remains young due to something called the Lazarus Pit fly in the face of the idea of a gritty, more realistic Batman movie? I'd prefer Batman stick to fighting realistic criminals.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:30 a.m. CST

    That could be cool...

    by DarkCowBoy

    But there is no official confirmation of that, right ? Sur, Rah would make a far greatest vilain than The scarecrow that they were talkin' about, and for a young Batman, as they seem want him to be, a challenging love affair would be pretty nice. But who would play Thalia ? And who could play Rah's ?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:32 a.m. CST

    You got it wrong, Harry

    by Human Tornado

    The movie will feature TWO villains, BLACK WIDOW and KING TUT, and Will Ferrell is the Caped Crusader. Find my lack of faith disturbing, do you?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Hugo Weaving as The Demon's Head

    by Human Tornado

    That would rule. He's already played an immortal, after all.

  • Instead of calling Ra's "Raysh Al Ghoul," they'll be pronouncing it "Rahzz Al Ghull." Just wait. And what about Jason Isaacs for Ra's and Kate Beckinsale for Talia?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Hugo Weaving, continued

    by Human Tornado

    AND, he had a hot daughter to boot.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Explain how this means Ra's Al Ghul is in the film.

    by Andy Travis

    I've read the original Neal Adams Ra's Al Ghul Batman comics,seen him in the cartoon, etc, but how does a spider web lair and Egyptian-like set equal Ra's in the movie?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Second/Third

    by PlainStupid

    I don't like being first..... it's rude like taking the last snack at a party

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:54 a.m. CST

    batman movie

    by mike1880

    If they have (ras a goul), sorry for the misspelling, in the movie then they should get two actors to play a young (20's) batman and an older (30-50's) batman. That would be ineresting.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Ra's Al Ghul Hadn't Occured To Me

    by CHEWBLACCA

    But he's a great villan.Will the masses get him though?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Might as well.....

    by ZeusXerxes

    Get Brendan Fraser to play Bats and call it The Mummy 3. We've already seen immortal Egyptian-types as the baddy. Need something fresh.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:02 a.m. CST

    A non Hammy Vincent Prince would owned in this role

    by Big Bad Clone

    Gary Oldman wouldn't be bad, but I feel an actor would have to have a great deal of elegance. Watch them cast Aiden Quinn. Talia should be played by Inara from Firefly.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Black Widow

    by m2298

    The Black Widow was played on the TV series by Tallulah Bankhead, not Bette Davis.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Batman

    by fullofstars

    I swear, If they sign on that pudgy smudgy faced Pacy kid to play Batman i'm going to flip. If they screw this Batman movie up we will have no hope in hell of ever seeing a hard as nails, bladerunneresque Detective movie. Last chance Do Not EFF This Up Mr. Nolan. If you Hire Pacy to Play Batman you might as well get Kathleen Turner to play Superman.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Ra's to be played by....

    by Motterman2K3

    ...Al Pacino.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:16 a.m. CST

    what the fuck is bAtman?

    by Mr Brownstone

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Christian Bale IS Batman!!!

    by KID AB

    And you fuckers know it, even those who reckon he isn't up to the job. BTW, who the fuck is this Ra geezer????

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:25 a.m. CST

    hmmm........

    by zer0cool2k2

    While I agree, a more reality grounded Batman movie is the best way to go, I think you could do one with Rhas. If his "immortality" was just hinted at, maybe by showing his wisdom learned throughout all those years, and the Lazarus pit not used until late in the film (or at the very end), I think he could be portrayed as the most human of all the Bat villians. I'm just not sure he's got the mass appeal Wrner Bros. is looking for. This report sounds to me like Jon Peters has just demanded once again "you gotta' have a giant spider in the third act". I like the idea of Hugo Weaving as Al Ghul, and judging by the underworld trailers, Beckinsale would look great in Talia's jumpsuits. How about Patricia Velasquez though? Guess it'll depend on who they cast as Bats. Hopefully they'll go with a more adult lead. Rhas Al Ghul would hand a rookie Batman his ass.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Might be kind of off

    by Jotham

    It might me kind of off, but what about Sam Neil as Ra's. Given the right direction it might work.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Harry doing backflips ...

    by godoffireinhell

    ... Thanks, bro! Now I have this picture of you doing backflips stuck in my mind. But you know, it actually looks kinda sexy ...

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Ra's and Talia Casting

    by Omega Effect

    The Animated Series really does cast a long shadow over anything to be done movie-wise. Even if you get the right actor for ol' Bats, it's hard to beat Kevin Conroy's voice work for the part. Along those lines, David Warner was indeed the ultimate vocal Ra's al Ghul, but he is getting a little long in the tooth to play a spry immortal. Cast Ralph Finnes. He definitely has the right voice and is the perfect age/look for a Ra's who can go head-to-demon's head with a youngish Batman. And then there's Talia. Do I go all fanboy and demand Natalie Portman, or do I go with Rachel Weisz, Mummy comparisons notwithstanding? Maybe Claire Forlani... that accent kills me.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:53 a.m. CST

    OH THANK GOD!

    by 007-11

    They canned that crap "Frightening" script. Now all they have to do is change the title. It sounds more like a fragrance than a seriously kickass Batman movie. Why not just "Batman:the Dark Knight"?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:56 a.m. CST

    I don't know if this isa good idea

    by RenoNevada2000

    While I'm all for seeing Ra's make a cinematic appearance at some point, I don't think it would be a good idea to match him up against a young Batman. It seems that Ra's couldn't be bothered by Batman until he had built up his reputation as first urban legend and then as the "World's Greatest Detective." Until an older Batman established his rep, Ra's wouldn't think that the Caped Crusader would be worth noticing. Hold Ra's off until the 4th or 5th installment of a well managed "Batman" franchise. I still think the Scarecrow would be a good villain to start with as you can subtextually contrast the way both Batman and Scarecrow utilize fear as part of their modus operandi.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:01 a.m. CST

    But who would play Ubu? The question we're all wondering...

    by Andy Travis

    And no, NOT the Rock. Please.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Casting

    by E Albert Bansom

    Daniel Day-Lewis as Ra's Al Ghul.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Phillip Seymour Hoffman

    by broken ear

    would rock as Batman.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Agree with vikingkitty....

    by Mel's Rockpile

    As much as I enjoy Ra's Al Ghul in the cartoon, I can't say I'm as pumped to see him on the big screen as I might be for a PROPER incarnation of Two-Face or someone more mainstream. I thought Nolan said he was completely ignoring the last two Batman films. That leaves five great villains to do-over properly. (Holy shit, I can't believe 5 villains were used over two films... Schumacher might as well have thrown in Egghead and King Tut). Why hasn't the Mad Hatter been considered? This whole egyptian and spider's web business is, quite frankly, scaring the shit out of me. I'd much rather hear about them building sets for Gotham. After what they're doing to Catwoman, I have very little faith in this movie. I hope I'm proven very wrong. Final note: Batman is a detective and a street crimefighter... not some goddamn ghostbuster. Lets keep this stuff as grounded as possible!!

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Ubu

    by Motterman2K3

    Definately done in CGI.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Hmm

    by Lujho

    I love someone's suggestion of Ralph Fiennes as Ras. HE'd be great (I wish he was Tarkin in Ep III... I wonder who they got for that, since Tarkin's rumoured to be in it). But another good Ras would be Jason Isaacs, who looks like he'll kick arse in Peter Pan.********* As for this new batman being fantasy based, well, I agree that starting out with a more straight crime-noir feel (with little or no rogues gallery villains at all, expecially not the super-human ones) would be ideal, but fantasy would be great too if done with the straight-faced-ness of the X-Men movies. Tounge firmly *out* of cheek, all serious. Have Bruce/Batman as the voice of science and reason (as Homer Simpson would say "Batman's a scientist!") and not have him accept the existance of supernatural or fantastic things unless confronted with incontravertible proof. As we saw the outlandsishness of the world of mutants through Wolverine's eyes in the X-Men movie, so should we see the fantastic through the sceptical eyes of Bruce Wayne. ************* Anyway, hope this movie doesn't suck, that's all I can say. I don't want a batman movie that's even mostly good, I finally want one that's great.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Terence Stamp as Ra's; he already has the proper voice for it

    by Big Bad Clone

    I like the idea of him being a bit older yet immortal. Maybe dye his hair black and cgi some Lazurus Pit stuff along with good makeup and it works.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Ra's Al-Ghul bores the ever-loving shit out of me.

    by Chastain-86

    But, of course, I was hoping for The Scarecrow. Done right, Scarecrow can be a pretty scary fucker.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Stop the bleeding now

    by fullofstars

    Forget about Ras al blah blah blah. Just do a version of Dark Knight. No pimple poppin Pacy as Batman, go with Tom Selleck or Kurt Russell as Batman, Sean Connery as Oliver, Roger Moore as Alfred, Ray Liotta as Joker and I still think Kathleen Turner could be a kick ass Superman. If not lets go Jude Law. Oh yeah if the ever do Frankenstein again Lets have Pacy's Buddy Dawson to be the monster, He has the Effed up Forehead already. Do I sound bitter?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Alan Rickman HAS to be cast for Ra's Al Ghul!

    by matban

    For the past 10 years I've been wanting them to make a Batman Film where Alan Rickman was Ra's Al Ghul! I also think Cathrine Zeta Jones would be perfect as his daughter.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Villain Casting

    by E Albert Bansom

    Joker - Adrian Brody.......... Scarecrow - Billy Bob Thornton...... Mad Hatter - Jeff Daniels....... Two Face - Michael Wincott..... Ventriloquist - John Lithgow...... Riddler - Edward Norton.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Ra's is Al Ghul is kinda like Ralph Nader with balls.

    by Andy Travis

    He just wants to save the planet...by wiping out the human race...(Oh, regarding who's playing Tarkin...no, it's not Fiennes...here's a hint--rent Shallow Grave.)

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Batman

    by Coffee and

    First let me say my interest in Batman is solely based on the first two movies and the cartoon. I have hardly read any comics. Assuming we believe two guys at a pub and assuming we believe the "evidence" that it's Ra's as the next villain, this need not be a completely fantastical story. It could be a maniac bent on figuring out a way to work his fountain of youth. The history of the villain can be adjusted to real life just like they did in previous movies. Now, the spider's layer. It could be that someone is afraid of spiders and that's what they hallucinate about when the Scarecrow poisons them. Scarecrow, afterall, was the one constant rumored villain for the next film. Plus, the title of the movie itself suggests some sort of fear factor is involved.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Christopher Walken IS Ra's Al Ghul

    by madoo14

    Come one seriously who can you think of better to play him. I can just hear him saying "deTECtive" now. Seriously if they do use Ra's I will be the first in line because this fits into Nolan's earlier comments about having the movie focus on Batman's detective abilities. Throw in some stealth and man-hunting aspects and I will be pleased as punch.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:39 a.m. CST

    cool villian choice

    by joshuaonenine

    ra's is a good villian to start this new franchise out with! wow it seems like this movie is actually going to happen after all! yay!!!!!!!!!!!I cant wait!!!!

  • While I think Angorasweater was over simplifying about how AICN is unfairly bashing movies for not being what was expected(it happens sure, but that don't make the movies good either), his/her point that this is very little evidence to ASSUME Ras' Al Gul is in the film or that the movie will be a ball busting epic film version of the animted Batman's Demon's Head episode is dead on. I am intrigued by these set pieces, would LOVE to see someone approach the Batman and the Demon's Daughter story as it would be very different from what people expect of the Caped Crusader, but it could be something else, something I *can't* imagine. I don't know any other Egyptian themes in Batman's world. And spiders too? Is this maybe a Mummy movie set that got confused for Batman? Hmmmmm.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:47 a.m. CST

    This will all end in much heartache.

    by JBurton

    Never get excited about Batman films, it will only end in despair.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Walken

    by Motterman2K3

    Has already played a Batman villain, in Batman Returns remember?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:03 p.m. CST

    I'd prefer Scare Crow but...

    by mwhelan67

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:05 p.m. CST

    I'd prefer Scare Crow but...

    by mwhelan67

    if Ra's Al Ghul is the villian, Gary Oldman or Billy Zane.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:07 p.m. CST

    I'd prefer Scare Crow but...

    by mwhelan67

    if they must go with Ra's Al Ghul, Gary Oldman.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:17 p.m. CST

    JEREMY IRONS BABY!!!

    by 007-11

    I've been weighing out my choices for Ras for a few hours now and I think Jeremy Irons would rule. He needs a role like this to reconfirm how great an actor he can be, especially as a villain. Just imagine him with those odd little tufts on his chin, slicked bach hair, and his voice. Just imagine him saying "detective". Jason Isaccs would be great too.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:21 p.m. CST

    No Scarecrow? No Loyd?

    by kafka07

    It sounded for a while as if Christopher Loyd was definitely in as the Scarecrow. I don't see how they could fit Scarecrow and Ra's into one film. Will Loyd be Ra's now? I think he would be good as either. Remember him in Star Trek the Search For Spock? He kinda looked like Ra's in that, with the goatee, playing the Klingon bad-dude. Someone in a recent post said it wouldn't be good for Hugh Dancy to be Batman because he's British. Well isn't Christian Bale British too? Personally I kinda favor the guy from Band of Brothers. But whatever they choose I'll be ok with (as long as it's not Freddie Prinze Jr.!). I have faith in this director, but they better keep that nippled rubber suit out of this one.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Christopher Walken?! Alan Rickman?!

    by ChaseSequence

    Ra's Al-Ghul needs to be a f--king Arab, guys.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Topol as King Tut!

    by rev_skarekroe

    And if that doesn't work, Terrence Stamp a Ras al Ghul and Crispin Glover as Scarecrow. sk

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 1:18 p.m. CST

    I agree with Vikingkitty

    by Ted_Naifeh

    What happened to the gritty, realistic Batman. If this movie keeps shaping up like a "Mummy" knock-off, I think I'll give it a miss.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 1:30 p.m. CST

    my best stuff here

    by fullofstars

    What's wrong with you people? I'm throwing out my best stuff here. Pimple Poppin Pacy as Batman and Big Forehead Dawson as Frankenstein. Don't make me start talkin' about that slow eyed, scrunchy faced Joey as Catwoman. We could call it Gotham's Creek.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 1:49 p.m. CST

    I don't know much about Ra's Al Ghul

    by onefettinthehand

    I know Batman fell in love with his daughter once, And Ra's has a rejuvination chamber? He's mentioned in the new Batman comic. But that's not the movie I want damnit! He's just some old magician guy! I want the scarecrow and The Frightening script! Why are they fucking with that? They just better cast Chistian Bale and keep the film dark and nuerotic. If they can do that I'll be happy, but I sure hope Harry is wrong.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Still a Scarecrow movie.

    by jimminyatemyworl

    No way Warners would greenlight a movie with a villan no non fanboy has ever heard of. Harry's just making a blind assumption, and if the title id intimidation it fits with Scarecrow more than anything else. Like talkbacker said before, just scarecrow mindtricks (people are shit scared of spiders, i bet even Bats). Just as an Egyptian setting in no-way means Ras in a Desert.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 1:59 p.m. CST

    THIS JUST IN...

    by Kenshiro_Kane

    Bad news, fanboys... the sets in question are actually being constructed for Arachnophobia 2: Egyptian Lovers. Sad but true. Word.

  • Maybe I'm just being pessimistic...

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 2:13 p.m. CST

    terrence stamp as ra's al ghul!

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    cathrine zeta jones as catwoman.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 2:33 p.m. CST

    The only Ras Al Ghul is Jason Isaacs!!!

    by Daj

    Look at the guy, hes bloody perfect for this role. Alan rickman is an ugly motherfucker, how could he possibly produce Talia. Jeremy Irons is a fucking has been. Jason Isaacs plays the best villians and he looks the part. In my opinion hes the only choice.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Howard Stern as Scarecrow

    by smarkit

    I don't think this is a good idea. I doubt anyone thinks its a good idea. However, I love Howard, and he has always said he wanted to play the Scarecrow.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Uh, guys - the working title of the film is apparently "INTIMIDA

    by Mosquito March

    If I had to make a (dangerously wild) guess like the one Harry's making, I would say the title fits in more with Scarecrow than with Ra's Al Ghul.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Arabic isnt he?

    by badboymason

    Shouldnt he be played by an actor with the right ethnic look? I suggest Oded Fehr from the Mummy series, he has the right look, has bags of charisma, a powerful presence, and his younger than expected age can be explained away as the rejuvenating effects of the Lazars pit...

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 3:01 p.m. CST

    > JEFF GOLDBLUM IS THE SCARECROW!!

    by A7M1GHTY

    He was the one originally cast as the Scarecrow in Batman: Triumphant (working title), and the other villian was King Tut. I think he'd still be the best choice for this role. Anyone remember this from like 10 years ago?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Jason Isaacs would be a great Ras...

    by Cap'n Chaos!

    As for Scarecrow, I gots two words for yas: Jeffery Combs. "Sherriff Perry! You're invading my territorial bubble!"

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Yd they drop Scarecrow?

    by Hogan_4_Eva

    Yd they hav 2 drop the 2nd coolest Batman villan?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 3:29 p.m. CST

    The Best Ra's is clearly...

    by HumanDog

    Capt. Dale, only on www.human-dog.com

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Just a thought, but maybe Ra's is making a cameo

    by Big Bad Clone

    The spider thing fits a scarecrow gas attack and the Eygptian thing could be in a museum. BUt maybe they have a tag in the end where Ra's is looking at a bank of videos of Bats and says something like "Soon, Dark Knight..." scary music rises and incorporates bat theme and fades out. I hated the villian team up thing. I can't beleive they wasted Bane...

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 4:25 p.m. CST

    thebigpicture

    by fullofstars

    Um yeah... Okay... Who will play Ras... lets think about that. Who could it be? >>> pondering... pondering. Oh here's a thought! WHO CARES - THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT FUCKING PACY FROM DAWSONS CRACK TO BE BATMAN!!! Why not little Gary Coleman as Batman and that little shit Webster as his trusty sidekick Robin. How does that sound? ... who will play Ras, why I otta...

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 4:50 p.m. CST

    grittier, more realistic villains..

    by jzn

    Like the Penguin! he is so gritty and realistic. Or maybe Killer Croc! or the Mad Hatter! the riddler! howabout the rainbow raider? the clock king? anyway, dont be silly, batman stories are great when batman is incredibly grim and his ridiculous foe does stuff thats unfathomably heinous. So heinous, that the villain ends even scarier than he is ridiculous. So, the more ridiculous the foe, the more heinous the crime. thats the formula, dammit! The only actual 'realistic' batman foe was Joe Chill (boring), or whatever random thugs happen to be under his boot in the opening fight..

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Black Spider

    by dr_midnight47

    I can't believe Im the only person to pick up that there is a Batman villain called the Black Spider who has been around since the 70's, a kind of highly trained assasin. King Tut and the Black Widow never appeared in the comics ( as far as i can remember)but really, we are all guessing... how long till the official word from WB?

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 4:53 p.m. CST

    I NEED MORE COWBELL!

    by Rcamacho2278

    Christopher Walken should play the RAH man,

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Great villain

    by HuckFinn

    Great choice to try to reinvision the whole franchise. It sounds like they are going for a younger Batman. Maybe they will stop killing of villians at the end of every movie. I'd like to see two actors play Ras... Ricardo Montalban and Antonio Banderas... both in the same film. Ricardo would play the older Ras and Banderas would come out of the Lazarus Pit and beat the crap out of Batman. At least the first time. After that, you end the movie with the duel in the desert. Probably this story is wrong. This sounds suspiciously like some of the sets from Batman's early years.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:18 p.m. CST

    The best Scarecrow....

    by guerillatokyo

    would be Tom Noonan. Ya know, the guy from Manhunter. He's tall, and creepy. He'd make a helluva better scarecrow than Jeff Goldblum.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Batman: Dead End

    by Go Dr. X

    Has everyone seen Batman: Dead End? I'm pretty late on the scene with this, but I just saw it last week at Dragon*Con and it was pretty groovy. Well, silly at times, actually, but fun, and seeing the stockier, older Batman in the classic black-n-gray was really great. Some very cool images.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:23 p.m. CST

    King Tut...NONONONONONO....

    by cripeman

    Uh-uh nope...throw in King Tut and then you have to the hench-men dressed as Egyptians named Anubis, Ra, and Manny the Messopitamian (complete with their names embroidered on their ceremonial garb).

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Crowe As RA'S...???

    by Falcon-1

    Check it out: "Whilst all this talk is running rampant about the hero, a piece out of left field came today about the villain - 'Kate' went to see Russell Crowe's band '30 Odd Foot of Grunts' when they were recently on tour and Crowe apparently mentioned he's been offered a "damn bad guy role thing that the guy from Memento's doing"." Now, I know he wouldn't be my FIRST choice to play Ra's (I'd go with Jeremy Irons); but I think he'd make the part interesting!

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:28 p.m. CST

    I agree with jimminyatemyworl

    by Go Dr. X

    No way Hollywood will use Ra's Al Ghul in anything but an ancillary fashion...even though he's the man for comic readers, the rest of the world has never heard of him. The sheer fact that they even considered King Tut as a villain for a Batman film shows that Hollywood's or the public at large's concept of Batman still resides with the 60's TV show, or, in the case of many younger viewers, the animated series.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Realism?

    by Orange Brat

    Batman by it's very nature is unrealistic, so no a Ra's story would not be a stretch. He's probably the coolest Bats villain, and I've been calling for a film with him for years.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 6 p.m. CST

    Perfect casting right here

    by ProfessorChaos

    Batman - Arnold Schwarzenegger Robin - Gary Coleman Scarecrow - Marilyn Manson Ra's - Hulk Hogan Alfred - the butler from Joe Millionaire Talia - Tori Spelling Joker - Sean William Scott

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Damn right Falcon-1

    by 007-11

    Jeremy Irons all the way

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Ras et al

    by biglawdog1

    Actually, Ras would be a fairly decent idea for a villain. He's not over-the-top like Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy and he's pro-environment message is definately something Hollywood would like to get behind, if for no other reason than to present some moral ambiguity for Batman to wade through. As for casting, several of you have hit on excellent choices- I'd go with Irons, personally and maybe throw Monica Belluci into tight black leather as Talia. Throw in the League of Assassins as cannon fodder and I think you have a fairly decent premise for a Bat movie. Of course, unless they cast Pacey as Bats, anything Nolan makes will top the last laughable outting.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Alan Rickman

    by matban

    Alan Rickman should play Ra's Al Ghul!! His voice is soo dreamy! Imagine him saying detective! Not to mention he's one of the best actors that's ever lived. Alan Rickman!

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Andy Travis.

    by JacknifeJohnny

    Ra's Al Ghul is an immortal EGYPTIAN, that has gained his immortality through "mystical primordial pools" called Lazarus Pits. I personally would have prefered a "Year One" approach or adaptation; it would have been the perfect way to re-introduce Gotham City to to audiences after the last two films killed it. However I have a lot of faith in Nolan so I'm there either way. I have two final points (rants) to make. 1. Batman: Dead End is a total fucking joke and I find it sad that fanboys are jizzing over a living (barely) cartoon. I love comics, but I also love films, and I will not except substandard shit because it's some other fanboy's wet dream. 2. As a hardcore Batman comic reader, I'm here to say that Batman & Batman Returns are great films that are only bashed by weird elitist fanboys, that wanted a two-hour comic book instead of a film. Both films are visually superior to the current Marvel stock(The Hulk & X2 are the only above par films)and the acting(w/ exception to the excrutiating Basinger)is dead on. Again I think weird elitist fanboys miss the point that the Burton films are a collage of nearly every decade in Batman's exsitence and they are not meant to represent ONE definition of the Dark Knight. Those films helped turn a then 8 year old child into a comic book fanatic, and I'm eternally greatful.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Calling all fanboys

    by Karl_Hungus

    I need your input on this bit of casting because I think it's perfect. For Scarecrow-Ewen Bremner from Trainspotting/Pearl Harbour/Black Hawk Down. His weird, lanky, haunted look is spot on. Also I like the Oded Ferher(Mummy) pick as Ras Al Guul. NOTE TO FILMAKERS-We don't need A-list actors to portray superheroes and villians. You need to use unknowns because the characters themselves already are stars. Who's more famous than Superman? Would you get Nick Cage to play Mickey Mouse? Hugh Grant to play Sherlock Holmes? This is why fans hated Micheal Keaton as Bruce Wayne-It's not batman. It's a big star wearing the Batman outfit. He did alright, thanks to Burton's brilliant directing but still somebody more physically imposing would have been infinetly better. On a side note, why are the last two Batman films considered the worst? Sure they sucked but Batman Returns was god-aweful. Giant cyborg penguins people?! I mean c'mon! Pfiefer was the shit though.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 8:53 p.m. CST

    I've said it before, I'll say it again........

    by Bootskin

    Tim Roth MUST play the Joker, at least once...(preferably before I die.....)

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10 p.m. CST

    Nice casting choices.

    by Devil'sOwn

    At this point, nobody seems to know much of anything, other than that they're kicking around the idea and considering actors, right? Hell, these "rumours" could dry up and blow away tomorrow. And ofcourse, anyone who still gives a damn at this particular point in time is apprehensive to the point of nausea that the worst case scenario will occur: After much expectation, they'll make it and it'll be the most godawful catastrophe, and that'll be the final nail in the Dark Knight's cinematic coffin. Don't repeat the mistakes of the past WB!! It doesn't have to be perfect, but these days, I find it hard to accept they can't make a Batman movie that can generate the same level of excitement created by some of the better recent comic book-based movies. No, you can never please everybone. Sure, some snothead geeks are gonna find something wrong with it. I don't realistically expect they'll release a movie with a "cool" title (how 'bout BATMAN OWNS?), "perfect" casting, and a flawlessly told story. Fanboy standards are pretty goddamn high nowadays. But I think some of us don't care if they make the "ultimate" Bat-movie right now. We'd be downright delighted if they just made a thrilling, fun, compelling, creepy, mind-blowing film that just happened to feature Batman. I didn't really think they'd use Ra's as villain, he's heavy-duty, goes outside the parameters of "lunatic threatens Gotham." The animated series did a world of good exposing a wide audience to Batman's rogues gallery. I think I've heard every imaginable actor's name mentioned over the past several years to play a Bat-villain, so I'm kinda like, neh. The best suggestion I've heard here is Alan Rickman as the Demon's Head, and that's just cuz I love this guy, he's a pro, he makes everything he's in a little better, he's the thinking man's "bad guy", with the arrogant attitude and voice dripping with scorn. So, like most preferred choices, he'll probably never do it. {sigh.} And for cryin' out loud, Walken was already in a Batman movie. I adore the cat, but his overused ass needs to go sit down til the ultimate role that would showcase his talents, that of LUCIFER, comes along.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 11:16 p.m. CST

    My own casting

    by KingOfTheFools

    I think having Ra's Al Gul would be killer! He's the best Batman villian next to the Joker. As far as casting him goes...here is my short list for that part. 1. Alan Richtman 2. Jeremy Irons and 3. David Warner (I mean the dude did the voice for the animated series, and he does kind of look like Ra's) As far as the Scarecrow goes...Adrian Brodie<sp>. But would a Oscar winning actor play a part in a super-hero movie? Ask Adrian's spit swapping parter from the Oscars Ms. Halle Barrie<sp again>. And as far as Talia goes, in my mind there is only one option...Kelly Hu. Then again, this is just my wish list. Thank you for your time.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 1:49 a.m. CST

    I know he's Egyptian, but the set doesn't mean Ra's is actually

    by Andy Travis

    It could be...anything, really. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to get a Ra's Al Ghul film, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Though if they do it, I demand there be a swordfight, complete with druggings, and bare-chested Batman and Ra's and all that.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 2:04 a.m. CST

    My picks for Bats, Scarecrow and both Ra's Al Ghuls

    by NeoAngelus

    Batman - Out of the list, I'd prefer Christian Bale. Gyllenhaal<sp> is too goofy looking. Jackson's WAY off. I'm not familiar with the rest..........Scarecrow's - If he's the villian, I agree with whoever brought up Crispin Glover. That's fucking PERFECT. He's tall, scrawny, and could totally weird people out...........Ra's Al Ghul - If he's the villian, and if they decided to cast him as a non-middle eastern man (which in Hollywood is always a possibility), I'd go with Alan Rickman. He's a total Ra's personality. And hell, Kevin Smith could talk him into it, easy. However, if the studio goes the other way, why not cast Naseeruddin Shah, the man who played Captain Nemo in LXG? Sure, he's Indian, but India's close enough. - n/a

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Batman suggestions...

    by UberSpectre

    Bale is Batman and if he does not star in it I will be uber pissed... As for other casting Talia, Cathrine Zeta Jones would be perfect as long with Rachel Weisz, now Ra's I say Jason Isaacs, Pacino would be the funniest thing ever... With the title being Intimidation don't you think Scarecrow will be in this... also will they kill Robin in this movie? That would kick ass, if they have O'Donnel come back and die in the first 10 minutes or something, also I would love to see a dark Batman movie with Croc and Mad Hatter or that Dummy bad guy, I forgot his name but that would be kool

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Hold On...when did Ras become an Egyptian?

    by the G-man

    I always thought Ras was Arabic.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 9:26 a.m. CST

    What he said

    by ejcarter9

    aphterburn, you couldn't have said it better. _____________ Al Gore as Ra's, that would rock. Well, as much as wood CAN rock. Can't you just picture him saying detective?

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 10:13 a.m. CST

    I thought the full title was Batman: Intimidation Game

    by Steal_Dragon

    Batman: Intimidation just sounds like Batman and Ra's Al Ghul measured dick's, and Batman lost by a mile, literally.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 10:14 a.m. CST

    BATMAN: THE LONG DARK NIGHTS OF A BAT-FAN'S SOUL

    by Devil'sOwn

    We're all operating on assumtion here, and assuming Nolan and Warner are serious about this, and Bale is cast as Batman, then, logically, give us the whole Bat- enchilada- with Angelina Jolie as the sexy, kickass Catwoman; Timothy Olyphant as the explosively homicidal Joker, Stephen Dorff as the straitlaced Commissioner Gordon, Jude Law as the crazy/ beautiful Two-Face, mmmMonica Bellucci as Talia, Joaquin Phoenix as the intelligent but craven Riddler, Crispin Glover as the creepy Scarecrow, Antonio "I've played an Arab AND an immortal" Banderas as Ra's al Ghul, AND Harry Knowles as the intrepid reporter who doggedly pursues this story. Rock!

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 10:22 a.m. CST

    "assumption"

    by Devil'sOwn

    Damn ramblings of a caffeine-fueled berserker.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 11:03 a.m. CST

    ooo. Intimidating!

    by Devil'sOwn

    Sorry, that title's just not doing it for me. Guess you gotta call it somethin', though. I'm sure it's tentative, and a more suitable title is on the way, like Batman: O Robin, Where Art Thou? Batman: The Fellowship of the Bat; Batman: The Bat Who Shagged Me; Batman- The Version You've Never Seen; Batman: From Dusk Till Dawn; Batman and the Holy Grail; Batman's Eleven; Batman: Reign of Fear (heeey), Batman- Episode V: Attack of the Geeks; Batman: Robin's Training Day; Batman: The Silence of the Fans; A Batmobile Named Desire ("Selinaaaaa!!!"); The Batfather; Saving Private Robin; Cool Hand Bruce; Batman: P.I.M.P.; Gotham: The Musical; Batman Rebooted; Gangs of Gotham; The Wayne Manor Rules; or There' Something About Talia.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Miguel Ferrer as Ra's Al Ghul...

    by FredDukesRules

    I don't even care if Miguel Ferrer logged on here himself to suggest that casting-that's friccin' brilliant! Not only that: he's a comic book geek to boot! Now I know some fanboys who attend conventions may have seen the cheesy 1996 JLA pilot where Ferrer played the Weather Wizard (trivia: Miguel also voiced the animated Mark Mardon/Weather Wizard on the Sept. 1997 episode "Speed Demons" of WB's Superman, but that doesn't count either). This would be the Miguel's first big budget villain role since Bob Morton in 1987's Robocop! Fred J. Dukes as a major X3 Villian in 2005!! (Are you listening Mike D. and Dan H.?)

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 4:18 p.m. CST

    That's what I'm talkin' about- much love for Miguel.

    by Devil'sOwn

    In the heavy-duty cast of Traffic, he definately gave a terrific performance. Actually, for a while I thought it would be quite a fanboy coup if Jason Lee became the new Joker. But after further consideration, he's more crazy-funny, as opposed to Tim Olyphant who's crazy-dangerous.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Egyptian? Hell, it could just as easily be the return of King T

    by St.Buggering

    If we get a set report about filming a scene in which an overweight egyptology professor is hit on the head, I guess we'll know. Of course, we're just taking the crewmember's perception that it's actually Egyptian in theme. Maybe the guy wouldn't know Egyptian from Arabic if it ran up his ass.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 5 p.m. CST

    Fanboy casting...please stop

    by St.Buggering

    You people. You're casting for a couple of arabic characters, and every single one of you is throwing out nothing but whitebread actors. It's people like you that had Marlon Brando playing a Chinese and Elvis Presley as a Native American. For the love of god, just stop it.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Come on, We Want Scarecrow

    by Hogan_4_Eva

    Its got to be the Scarecrow, (Or the return of Adam West to haunt Batman forever)

  • Sept. 7, 2003, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Dawson's Batcave

    by Dr.007

    If they go with a younger batman (which doesnt thrill me) I'd be hard pressed seeing them go with another barely postpubescent actor as Ras. I'd favor someone wiht a big name and more acting chops - like Fiennes or Stamp or even more intelligent menace like Hopkins or Kingsley. Hell, it's too bad they cant go back in time a few years and get Peter O'toole. I think Lawrence and Ras are brothers anyway. As for russel crowe he might have made a good Dark Knight. Oh and i hear to save money on makeup and CGI, lara Flynn Boyle will be playing a female mummy.

  • Sept. 7, 2003, 1:54 a.m. CST

    A spiders web design? geeez....! It`s "Batman and Robin" all ove

    by chien_sale

    The thought of a young Batman also makes me cringe. Get Dougray Scott or else...!

  • Sept. 11, 2003, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Pic???

    by Viper_89_

    If you live so close, then send me a pic of somethin' from the set, and if you dont have a digital camera then get a Kodak plus digital camera, they are cheap, and they are pretty much the same!!! My E-Mail address is viper_89_@hotmail.com