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Cinema news on Coax?? Yeah!! Cuz Joss Whedon is about to become a movie director!

No other real details, save for the fact that it’s being produced by Universal, which acquired the rights from Fox.

Read the The Hollywood Reporter story here!!

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  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:26 a.m. CST


    by TraitorZaarin

    Kudos to Joss, Kudos to Universal, and Kudos to God for aligning the stars and making this happen! I can't wait.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Grave of the Fireflies

    by Some Dude

    Was this show really that good? Never caught it, but I might check it out on DVD.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:29 a.m. CST

    OH YEAH! Shiny, indeed!

    by BRTick

    suck it nay-sayers! keep flying browncoats!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:30 a.m. CST

    FireFly Movie Great Idea!!!

    by Bobby_Drake

    As A huge fan of the show, I have to say I'm extremeley excited by the fact they want to do a movie of firefly. I just hope it fares better than the show did.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:34 a.m. CST


    by Sith Lord Sauron

    The sacrifice of the 10,000 Al-Queda members in boiling pig shit paid off!! WHOO-HOO! Seriously, I hope this comes to fruition. We NEED good science fiction on the big screen these days; Speilberg can't carry the load by himself ya know! Between this news and the work on the Evangelion movie things may actually be looking up again on the sci-fi front! Whoo!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Ok, great, now Farscape, please!

    by Frank Einstein

    How bout it?

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:47 a.m. CST

    semi-similar histories...

    by JoeStokowski

    evoke me to ask if this is the star trek heir apparent... firefly: the next generation, anyone? i am king shit of fuck mountain.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:50 a.m. CST

    wait a sec...

    by JoeStokowski

    can something really "evoke me"? no, i didn't think so either. "compel" would've probably been a better choice. my bad.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:14 a.m. CST

    oh hell yeah

    by radjac29

    two by two, hands of blue No power in the 'verse will stop me from watching this instant classic(not even a push into a turbine)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Does this show want to be Star Trek or what?!

    by TheGinger Twit

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Firefly Hurrah!!

    by StarReporter

    I can't believe Joss pulled this off. I wonder how big a budget he is getting. I mean the awesome pilot was 80 minutes long and cost 5 million. Would 10 million suffice for 120 minute movie? If it would, it would definetly make its money back and possibly lead to more adventures. I know this is lame, but I wanted to plug my site which has a new interview with Dan Castellaneta from the Simpsons and reviews from new tv shows. If this is deleted, I understand. If not, please check out

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:52 a.m. CST


    by Zardoz

    I honestly never thought it would happen. I figured that Fox had screwed the pooch so badly with the show that a movie would never get made. And Joss is gonna direct? Oh, sorry, wet spot under my seat! I for one, am very excited and wish all involved the best of luck... (and I was worried that life would be less entertaining without Mr. Whedon on Buffy)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Christ, no...

    by Hellboy

    It died on tv for a reason: it blew. Let it go to space cowboy heaven. For the love o' Pete.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:45 a.m. CST


    by ric5x5

    HELL FUCKING YEAH..............I knew this day was coming but when you read the headline you have to slap yourself to make sure you're not dreaming. Out of the ashes Serenity flys again and I couldn't be more floored....gave me a big happy

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:48 a.m. CST

    No Hellboy

    by EvilStar

    It didnt die because of it blowing.. it died because fox aired the second episode FIRST instead of the pilot (which ironically they aired LAST) and they aired the rest of the episodes out of order they put the show on friday night at 7pm cst which means death. they also failed to promote it. the only advertising I ever saw for it was 5 mins before the show began (so only the fans of the show got to see the ads) I have Tivo so time and channel matter to me not, and I never missed an episode. it was building a following even at these impossible circumstances but the episodes costs a bit over 2 million dollars each so yer... oh and I wanted to add that I am king shit of fuck mountain and not that other person

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:59 a.m. CST

    Lets just hope it's not TOO little TOO late

    by LargoJr

    I mean, I was ready to fucking KILL for an MST3K movie.. but they waited until AFTER Jim Mallon let the network dumb it down and white wash it so bad that Joel walked, then let that useless putz Mike run the show into the ground. The WHOLE fucking point was not "everyone will get this joke"... it was "The RIGHT people will get this joke." As soon as those Corporate FUCKS get their hands on anything unique or special.. it turns to shit.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 6:08 a.m. CST


    by Deep Blue Sky

    Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet ;)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 6:32 a.m. CST

    I do believe I wet myself

    by MemBirdman

    This is a good thing. A very good thing.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 6:48 a.m. CST


    by JimmyRabbit

    oooooooooooooo.........................FIREfly :P

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 7:15 a.m. CST

    What pulp_dusk said...

    by jimmythesaint

    ... I totally agree with. Great action sequences are a given, but if it's FIREFLY, it's gotta be a quirky character drama as well. 'Mon the Whedon.

  • This is direct to video right?

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Cautiously optimistic

    by Spikes Brain

    I think this is cool and all, but it's hard to open a movie nowadays without a "name" actor. With a few exceptions... I don't know if all of the Joss-heads out there will be enough to make money for this. I'm thinking either this disappears fast like the MST movie, or Joss cops to the pressure and replaces Nathan Fillion with Matt Dillon or someone like that. Maybe if he retitled it "My Big Fat Greek Spaceship"?

  • The studio will probably force Joss to put in a big name as a villain. We'll probably see Vin Diesel or Ben Affleck as the leader of the federation/empire or something.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 8:33 a.m. CST

    about this

    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    Shouldn't this news be on the BIG part of the site and not the LITTLE part of the site? I mean, this isn't really coax news anymore, is it?

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 8:57 a.m. CST

    MEMO TO JOSS-- Go for an R rating

    by RenoNevada2000

    With copius amounts of Jewel Staite nudity please.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 9:13 a.m. CST


    by Randy Giles

    Firefly movie! Incredible! But, what I really want to know is: what's up Satan's ass? All he wants to do is fuck us up, the dicklicker.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 9:47 a.m. CST

    James Marsters mentioned this at Dragoncon last weekend.

    by rev_skarekroe

    He's lucky he can act, btw, 'cause his band sucks. sk

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Next up The Gimme a Break Movie, Anything to distract Wendon fro

    by BannthisUcommies

    otehrwise Angel season 5 will go the way of Buffy season 6 straight to the crapper....

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 10:04 a.m. CST

    splitting hairs

    by purplemonkeydw

    wasn't joss already a movie director...wasn't buffy a movie before a television show...and wasn't buffy a suprisingly funny movie even with one luke perry? i submit it was so...consider the hairs split!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 10:08 a.m. CST


    by burningbabyfish

    *dances happily* That's good news. I did know about it from reading some DragonCon reports, but it's all good. Nice to see it confirmed. I can't WAIT. :)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Great News! DVDs in Dec. then maybe this next year!

    by Damitol

    I was a member of the "Give Firefly a chance by watching a few shows because of Joss' name, didn't think much of it at first then if really started to grow on me" club. I'll be getting the DVDs in December because I really want to see the show in it's proper order. I didn't tape the first half of the shows so FOX's decisions to show episodes in random order really buggered continuity and character development - but the show still got more interesting each week. Here's hoping that Joss can make it for a reasonable budget so that Uni spends some serious coin on marketing to get the word out and make everyone connected some money. I'd love to see a new Firefly movie every couple of years.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Splitting Split Hairs

    by RedRedRobin

    Whedon wrote the original Buffy movie, but I don't think he directed. So this would be his first stab at movie direction.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Good luck Joss...ya dumbass

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    I was mildly entertained by firefly, but if Whedon things I am going to shell out 9 bucks to see a movie that only about 4 million americans bothered to watch for free he's nuts. And to think he threw the last two seasons of Buffy down the shitter so he could make this crap.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:14 a.m. CST


    by Recognizer

    Diluted souls are good but only in a 3:1 ratio, otherwise there's not enough soul left to give it kick. --------- FLirefy was a decent show; like Cowboy Bebop, it was impossible to watch an episode and be disappointed, even with the other consistently good episodes raising one's expectations. However, many a good show has become a godawful movie 'cause people felt the need to sandwich the show-length wit and pacing into a 90-120 minute formula. PowerPuff Girls is awesome in 10-minute stretches, bearable in half-hour arcs, and "diluted" as a feature-length. Cowboy Bebop, likewise, was a better show than movie. As a movie it was less than an OVA; it was a digression. I hope that newbie director Joss isn't *deluded* enough to think that the default option will work here. We need a good story that's *worth* the two hours.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:16 a.m. CST

    BruceTimmOwns must have been sarcastic...

    by Recognizer

    'cause left to their own devices, Cockroaches don't really die. Even when hit with nuclear weaponry they're likely to survive. Science Fiction is less resilient. Maybe you meant for us to leave it to die like a goldfish -- or maybe you were being sarcastic.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:28 a.m. CST

    *Bows to the gods*

    by vesp_e_rillian

    Umm, woot. I am as giddy as a little school girl. :-D

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Faith restoring, anger fading...

    by Big Bad Clone

    This is fucking great news. When this was on the air, it was good times. Buffy on Tues., Firefly on Fri., and Angel on Sun. I was never four days away from a Joss Whedon fix. Of course, Fox screwed it up, Buffy had a finale that was bewilderingly unsatisfying at best, and Angel went out rollicking (punch thru a head!!) to a future that wasn't really certain. Frankly, I still think it will be cancelled and replaced by Young McGuvyer, Tarzan, or Dawson's Creek Redux Spike Spectre or no Spike Spectre. I just hope Joss' failures on screen (read Alien Resurrection, the original Buffy) are really the fault of those directors and meddling producers. A Firefly movie as good as the series something I don't want to think about becasue it is so heart breaking. Shit, I going to be singing the theme song all day now...

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:40 a.m. CST

    FIREFLY? You have got to be shitting us!

    by WarDog

    I mean, I was really beginning to get into it JUST BEFORE Fox (damn them to hell) cancelled the series. It really, REALLY deserved more of a chance to succeed, but with only half a season, I don't really think it has enough of a fanbase to float a theatrical movie. On the other hand, if the cute widdle Summer Glau is in it, I'll see it. That girl has a mountain of potential, and not just because she's so delectably nubile.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Oh YESS!!!

    by Smugbug

    Now, this is news that's worth posting the following for: "Freakin' Aye!!" VERY happy right now.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:44 a.m. CST

    You can't take the sky from me

    by jules windex

    Do this one sorta cheap and it'll be cool. Don't make it too flashy.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:04 p.m. CST


    by Drath

    I admit, I was not a believer, I did not think you'd get this far. I am impressed. So I guess the next question is, what kind of budget will you have to work with? Would less money force you to be more creative do you think? It can be done. You can get movies like PITCH BLACK every now and then. I hope for the best. And "take me out to the black, tell 'em I ain't coming back!"

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:10 p.m. CST

    this just in: joss whedon triumphs over evil!

    by atomheartbrother

    congratulations to joss whedon. and just think.... if his (relatively) low budget sci-fi show does well (and quality does occasionally equal box office) maybe we'll get farscape resurrected too. great news indeed.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:12 p.m. CST

    I love the way...

    by jimmythesaint

    ... someone just said "FIREFLY? Give us some real sci-fi like STARGATE SG1 plz". Whatever, maybe they'll make a movie of your "MacGyver in the desert" series. Oh wait, they did. And it was shit.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:19 p.m. CST


    by Aud

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:25 p.m. CST

    This will flop...

    by Manaqua

    its too bad that the only people that will see this flick are the HARDCORE geeks. Nobody in the general population even knows what Firefly is. A previous poster hit teh nail on the head. The WalMart crowd WILL confuse this with teh Costner flick unless they change the name. I for one am thinking.......Blah. I am completely underwhelmed by this news.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:33 p.m. CST

    split ends

    by purplemonkeydw

    Red Robin, you're right...Fran Kuzui directed the original Buffy...I stand corrected...figuratively...I'm literally sitting my computer...typing

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:34 p.m. CST

    "it's too bad that the only people that will see this flick are

    by ChaseSequence

    Don't be so sure. Did ANYONE watch the six or so episodes of Police Squad? I'm pretty sure the answer there is no. But Naked Gun was a pretty huge hit -- and a great, funny movie. (The first one, anyway.)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:38 p.m. CST


    by the maven

    Best media news I've heard all year.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Firefly is not that popular even as a cult hit.

    by SexyBeast

    The show was on for roughly half a season. Even people who liked it and wanted it to stay on the air aren't hardcore fans. They just thought it had potential. I think whedon is seriously over reaching if he thinks Firefly has a fanbase for a movie.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:44 p.m. CST

    "I'll be in my bunk..."

    by BeowulfBolt

    That's pretty much all I got to say.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Yeah right

    by Wingnut1A

    Maybe the script will be as good as Alien: Resurection

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Just a bit of rampant speculation here, but...

    by RenoNevada2000

    If the movie is a success, how would you like the franchise to continue? In either a return to the small screen or as a series of films?

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Two by two, hands of blue

    by Fred

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 1:45 p.m. CST

    To those saying no one will go see the Firefly movie...

    by GenericGeek

    The article says that the pre-sale Firefly DVD sold out in 24 hours in I don't know what that means in numbers, but I'm pretty sure all those fans are sure to be there on opening weekend for the Firefly movie. So, yeah, if Universal ponied up for this is because they saw profit potential. Now it's up to Joss to make with the exciting and the funny and the cool characters. Also, on my wish list: more Companion girl-on-girl sessions. Yeh. By the way, I don't live in the U.S., so I already saw some of the "lost" episodes, and they freaking rock!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Firefly craps as bad as Enterprise

    by kabong

    Why shouldn't a Firefly movie be made? It's as boring and stupid as the most recent Star Trek product.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:01 p.m. CST

    how did Joss pull this off?

    by BRTick

    studios love things with built in fan bases. and firefly has that. plus the word is they really liked his script. long live serenity!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Face it, doubters: Firefly has a fanbase, and it's still growing

    by Prankster

    Which is impressive, since Fox seemed to go out of its way to make the show unimpressive and incoherent. But peruse the DVD when it comes out, and you'll see that it would have been an incredibly tight show if aired in proper order, and if they hadn't ordered a new pilot thrown together at the last minute, which became most people's confusing and mediocre first look at the show. Anyway, considering the miracles they pulled off with miniscule budgets every week, they should be able to make a terrific-looking picture for under $20 million and turn a project, which is probably the main reason the movie's going ahead. I know my cries will probably fall on deaf ears, but seriously, give Firefly another chance. Except for Futurama, it's the best "space show" of recent years (tho I liked Farscape too...)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Lexa Doig as Faye Valentine!

    by NicholasWolfwood

    I think she can look and play the part. Oops this is that other show?

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by thewoodpecker

    Fuck Fox, fuck them right in the ear! Tres Cool. Seriously, this is good news. The show really grew on me and I hope JW dispenses with those silly accents and just deals with his society.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 2:43 p.m. CST

    more good news....

    by thewoodpecker

    Nude scenes for the space hooker. Also, if JW pulls this off, a Buffy movie is a MORTAL LOCK!!!!!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Frank Einstein

    by Psyclops

    I have a feeling we'll be seeing a FARSCAPE movie before you know it, especially if this pulls in some big change at the box office. I've never been a fan of FIREFLY, I saw the first half of the pilot and didn't find it all that interesting so I gave up on it. Since then, I've heard nothing but good things about the show (I'll be picking up the DVD set in December to see what I've been missing), if the movie pans out I'll definitely give it a try. Love live Joss and the Mutant Enemy crew!!... now give us a Buffy movie and I can die happy.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Great News!

    by Kirka

    Though I am afraid of the reaction in the theater with the silence in space. "WTF?!? That ship exploded.. WTF is wrong with the sound?"

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:39 p.m. CST

    This is great news

    by LFrench1

    "... someone just said "FIREFLY? Give us some real sci-fi like STARGATE SG1 plz". Whatever, maybe they'll make a movie of your "MacGyver in the desert" series. Oh wait, they did. And it was shit." Please get your facts straight. "Stargate" was a movie starring Kurt Russel that was watchable, but uninspiring. "Stargate SG1" didn't start until several years later, starring RDA, and its far better than the movie it was based on. And while there were a few desert planets, most of the show takes place in various forests and fields. Stargate rarely fails to entertain; as a Scifi series, it surpasses Firefly (and CERTAINLY the show calling itself Star Trek right now). However, as a Drama, Firefly surpasses Stargate. Also, while it might be possible to find 15 SG1 episodes that are as good as Firefly's 15 eps, they would not all be from the first season. In fact, the only place where Stargate approaches FF's quality in the first season is its pilot, "Children of the Gods", which is about the same quality as "Serenity". I'd also like to ask that when referring to Firefly, please make a distinction between the PILOT ("Serenity") and the PREMIER ("The Train Job"). There's a big difference.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Hell YESS!!!

    by Hjermsted

    Eat crow Fox Rejecutives (hey I believe I just coined that! :) And make a new reality series based upon said eating of crow in front of a tomato and egg armed live studio audience! Now that I'd watch. Call it American Idle-Minds **** Best of luck to Joss and Mutant Enemy with their first true feature film!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I sure hope they are not able to sign Gina Torres for the movie,

    by JackDonkey

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Did someone say Stargate is sci fi and firefly not so much, wtf?

    by JackDonkey

    i've never watched stargate... but I must say it's one thing to be sci-fi, it's a completely nother thing in all genres to have character development, and by the looks of it stargate lacks that, I know andromeda lacks it, firefly had it, farscape had it, star trek next generation had it, star wars has it. All great forms of fiction prose have character development, that is why I will see firefly the movie (especially if Gina Torres is not available to shoot the movie and they have to replace her with... well anybody. she'll be available though as she is in all forms of television and movies that I enjoy, damn her for ruining the matrix reloaded for me, damn her, didn't she ruin Hercules too.. I can't remember exactly)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Why not Buffy?

    by Spice-Orange

    I don't like either, but face it- Buffy would draw in more people then Firefly... ***Firefly confused me too much. why are they in western towns one minute, then inside spaceships and elaborate futuristic cities the next? It was too out there for me, I guess. *** What I don't understand is why Joss gets to make this movie when Farscape has millions and millions of fans that want a movie/new show. It's really not fair; this stupid Hollywood Machine.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:12 p.m. CST


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  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:28 p.m. CST


    by FloydGandoli

    I had heard that Whedon almost passed the director's torch to Kyle and Efram.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:29 p.m. CST

    SWAT a flop?

    by FloydGandoli

    It's already made over $100 million domestically.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 4:44 p.m. CST

    What's wrong with Gina Torres?

    by jimmythesaint

    I think she's a good, strong, sexy woman, perfect for the part. Please open my eyes as to what's exactly wrong with her.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:07 p.m. CST


    by CapnZebbie

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Herc shows Whedon lust yet again. Notice how Firefly news gets a

    by Commando Cody

    Well, he's a geek for all things Whedon, so I guess that should have been expected. As for this news, I'm dubious about the movie being made now given Universal's impending deal with GE which will surely clean house once it takes over and reevalutate all existing production deals. Besides, even if they make this, what's not to prevent it going straight to video? Me thinks THAT was always Universal's intention. They saw that the show had a slight cult following and they figured "Hey, if the DVD sells well enough" maybe we can make a direct to video sequel to pocket some coin. And get in good with Whedon for future projects simply because we backed this one." But seeing FIREFLY up on the big screen? If so, they're going to have to DRASTICALLY change things -- in fact, you can see that even Whedon ackknowledges that when he says the movie would have to be more "epic." Damn straight. Who the hell wants to see a futuristic sci fi SPACE movie about guys dressed in old style western gear transporting COWS? Yeah, the world is just clamoring to see THAT. As if people are really coming out of theaters and telling marketing people, "Oh, that OPEN RANGE movie would be so much better if only it had a space ship in it."

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:36 p.m. CST


    by FloydGandoli

    I hope the timing isn't off for this project. It seems that Whedon's successes take a little time in the gestation process. For instance, the Buffy movie is pretty half baked and the show does really take off until the second season (but when it does take off it absolutely rocks). Same thing with Angel. It doesn't really find its voice until midway through Season One (when Wesley turns up as a rogue demon hunter). Hopefully Firefly the movie will be fully cooked and on par quality wise with the Jossmeister's best work.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:51 p.m. CST


    by General_Patton

    I'm there!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 5:58 p.m. CST

    That Jewel chick is annoying also

    by JackDonkey

    To that one guy, I don't like Gina Torres because she looks like a swamp monster, and she doesn't fit the part of strong woman, and because is in every god damn tv show I like, alias, angel, firefly, I think hercules, it's like can't she be a genre actor in a genre I don't like. She's the same damn monotone character in every part too, it's annoying, The main reason is that she was the first idiot to have an accent in hercules and it ruined the whole damn show. Hercules could still be on the air today. Oh sure you say Xena was better than hercules and that's not on the air still, well that's because xena gained fame by being cool and not forcing a lesbian thing in your face, then later on they compromised on cool buy having lesbian innuendo an irreversible mistake, and that is why hercules would still be around but not xena. Also that Jewel chick on firefly annoys me to no end. she is not attractive, merely thin, and you can tell that she would sun up to sun down at a reinassance festival for free, she's that type I bet you. I hope the movie has all the male characters and kaylee, and the hooker too, and then they don't even need anyone else, they can say that the doc lost jewel or something, wouldn't bother me none.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Star Jones of The View uses Internet catch phrase "Jumping the S

    by SexyBeast

    "You desperate hussy," Jones said. "It's jumping the shark. It's Fonzie on 'Happy Days' all over again." Since then, I've been fielding phone calls and e-mail from friends, asking how Vieira stacked up as a kisser compared to my husband.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Jewel Staite

    by jimmythesaint

    I think she's cute and sweet. And whatever about Gina Torres, I think FIREFLY would be weaker without her.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 7:21 p.m. CST


    by chasfkane

    This is proof positive that either somebody at Universal is smoking crack, or Joss Whedon is a prodigiously talented fellatist. Honestly, who cares? You heard it here first: this will never make it to the theaters. If it gets made at all, it will go straight to DVD. The reason the show died had nothing to do with the sequence that the episodes were aired in, or because Fox didn't spend umpteen millions promoting it. You could have projected the show onto the moon with a photon cannon, and people would have found something more interesting to watch. It died because nobody cared enough to watch it. People don't watch SF for quirky characters or thinly-disguised horse opera plots. They watch SF for spaceships, rayguns and explosions, and maybe a girl with big green space titties.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 9:02 p.m. CST

    oh, swat firefly

    by kabong

    Having the crew sit around the living room of their spaceship and bicker like soap opera bitches is not character development. Firefly and Enterprise are lamo feeb crap. Bring back Space Above and Beyond or do a Starship Troopers series. Let's see some badass aliens eat rapidfire.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Whedonites are pathetic...

    by Sherlock_Holmes_

    You'll pay $8.00 to see a Firefly movie because Joss has you so brainwashed that you'll watch a home video of SMG doing her laundry as long as Joss had something to do with it. Gag. Firefly SUCKED. It was terribly lame. It was no "Battle Beyond The Stars"...

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 10:25 p.m. CST

    "Firefly SUCKED. It was terribly lame"

    by Voice O. Reason

    Wow, what excellent reasoning! Were you on the debate team in high school?

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 10:49 p.m. CST

    You can't take the sky from me!

    by ScaryMonkey

    I want to believe! This has to be the best scifi show that never got a chance to really prove itself (a small category, to be sure, including at least Crusade, but notable nonetheless). I know some fucking suits would love to kill this or ruin it. They did it to the series (different suits, I know, but really, they're are all the same. They're stamped out from molds in a factory in Wichita), didn't they? I'll never understand why Fox would invest millions in developing a show and then broadcast it out of order (linear plot line! important!) and not advertise it AT ALL. WTF? The GE thing scares (but GE, like any giant, evil monolith, has always scared me). I have no problems with adding a "name" actor as a baddie or other new addition, but the original cast was SMOKIN'! Bring 'em all back! The cowboy thing would work better, IMHO, if they showed a few other planets at similar technological levels but with DIFFERENT DOMINANT CULTURES (Chinese, Indian, Mali, whatever). Here's hoping Serenity flies again! Definitely the best movie news I've heard this year!

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:16 p.m. CST

    This will lost likely...

    by ed_wood_jr

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:17 p.m. CST

    This will most likely...

    by ed_wood_jr

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:18 p.m. CST

    This will most likely...

    by ed_wood_jr

    NEVER see the light of day. (pardon my premature postings earlier, BTW)

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:23 p.m. CST

    This is great news.

    by BiPolarBear

    But what makes me sad is that so many of the arguments why this will never work in the cinema are purely based on the business aspect of it. That, plus the intelligence level of Firefly's detractors never raises above the level of "Firefly sucks." Actually, come to think of it, that makes me happy. Makes me feel like only stupid people hated Firefly. :P And why is it that fanboys seem to think that if you like one show in a genre you have to hate all the others? Why? I love Farscape. I like SG-1. I LOVE Firefly. Can't I enjoy them all for their different reasons? Finally, in a way I am torn about Firefly's premature end. On the one hand, I want more of it. On the other hand, it died early so it never got a chance to suck... and let's face it, there's not been a long-running TV show in the history of television that didn't start sucking at one point.

  • Sept. 4, 2003, 11:50 p.m. CST

    "Nay!" to Naysayers

    by mullymt

    Gripe all you want, Silver, but tonight is ours! You really don't know what you're talking about when you say you need a big star to open a movie. Most of the number one movies this summer were big because of the franchise name (Freddy vs. Jason, Spy Kids 3-D)rather than relying on big name stars. Also, this movie has a big-name star, and his name is JOSS WHEDON. The guy is huge in his own right. His fans (myself included) are rabid, and number in the millions. If 3 million Whedonites are waiting in line to see this movie at $7 a pop, that's a $21m opening weekend, WITHOUT anybody else seeing it. With Universal merging with NBC, we might even see this movie do so well that it creates enough NEW browncoats that the series, in a grand show of synergy, returns to network TV. "I'll be in my bunk!"

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Oh Joy

    by Pagz

    I can hardly wait to get to a theater near me and watch a movie based on the most mediocre and hammy sci-fi series of recent memory. yay. Now, if only they'll follow this up with an Earth: Final Conflict movie, or maybe even an Andromeda movie, then I can rest easy in the knowledge that Hollywood has finally hit rock bottom.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 1:20 a.m. CST

    FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!

    by Logan Sandman

    Burn the land AND BOIL THE MOTHERFUCKING SEA.... YOU CANT TAKE THE SKY FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:04 a.m. CST

    This is Like Buffy Backwards

    by 28

    in a way Joss Whedon doing what he did with Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Buffy the Vampire Slayer(as we All know!) becan as a Movie that was a Flop that Became a Popular Beloved Television Show. FireFly which becan as a Television Show(that would have been a Hit!) and Turning it into what might be a Hit Movie! Before any of YOU scoff just remember what did You Think when You first Heard Buffy the Vampire Slayer was becomeing a

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Firefly was a 100% aquired taste.

    by McCormic

    I was a naysayer at first myself, but it really did grow on you. It was the most orgonal show on televishion. . .

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 6:29 a.m. CST

    This is so sweet.

    by mrfan

    A crappy show getting made into a movie. Seen it a dozen times. Maybe this will keep Whedon off Angel. The man needs a sabatical of some sorts. His talent is sliding down just like Kevin Smiths. Good luck with this movie. He will need it.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 6:36 a.m. CST


    by buffytypethings

    Sounds like a wannabe star trek type thing. Why would people pay money to see a flop TV show on the big sceen unless it had big names in it. I mean a couple of convention geeks from the us, canada and uk wont make it a blockbuster

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Growing Worldwide Fanbase.

    by The Outlander

    I live in Australia and Firefly has not been show here yet but I have downloaded all the episode. Every pearson I have show the episodes to that is at leaset 5 people and with many others still to go. All of the five people I have shown them to have come away fans of the show and out of the 5 people only 2 watch Buffy. In fact unlike Buffy, Firfly is a show that would not hesitate to show anybody. I believe that Firefly has the potential to have a lot of appeal to a very wide audiance. Keep Flying.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Gina Is a Hottie

    by KingOfCrows

    Gina Torres is a strong, sexy black woman. And a damned fine actor too.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:01 a.m. CST

    I have only one request...

    by Wapkaplet

    Once the lights dim in the theatre and the studio logos flicker across the screen, the next thing I want to hear is: "Previously on Firefly..."

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 12:40 p.m. CST

    What people watch SF for

    by LFrench1

    "This is proof positive that either somebody at Universal is smoking crack, or Joss Whedon is a prodigiously talented fellatist. Honestly, who cares? You heard it here first: this will never make it to the theaters. If it gets made at all, it will go straight to DVD. The reason the show died had nothing to do with the sequence that the episodes were aired in, or because Fox didn't spend umpteen millions promoting it. You could have projected the show onto the moon with a photon cannon, and people would have found something more interesting to watch. It died because nobody cared enough to watch it. People don't watch SF for quirky characters or thinly-disguised horse opera plots. They watch SF for spaceships, rayguns and explosions, and maybe a girl with big green space titties." . . . Well those people are lame. SF has never been about flash and skin---not since the fifties, anyway. Not the serious shows. Not Stargate, not Star Trek, not Babylon 5.....those things SUPPLEMENT SF, they don't make it. Firefly was *different*, yes, and that's a good thing. We can only see the same stories retold so many times. Firefly was the best show in the last decade, and if you can't see that, I pity you. (That's a plural 'you'.) I have yet to meet a single person who hasn't like "Serenity" once I showed it to them......many hadn't seen it, though, because Fox made it look stupid. Oh, and did I mention---I don't like being lumped in as a "Whedonite". Never seen Buffy, never seen Angel.....just saw Firefly, and liked it on its own merits.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 3:17 p.m. CST

    This is very cool news...

    by Wungolioth

    The show was really growing on me when they cancelled it, and Fox cancelled it despite the fact that it was showing improved ratings at the time, too. Jack Donkey, that Jewel Saite chick is Kaylee, I think you're referring to Summer Glau who played River. And I hope that you're wrong, because I personally thought her story was among the most intriguing in the show. I mean, how can you not want to see that story come to some conclusion, or at least progress? "No power in the 'verse can stop me.", that's still my favorite line of the show(the funniest is "I'll be in my bunk").

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Is this Talkback flipped too?!?! YAY!!

    by HavokJD

    Finally some logic is applied...Can't wait for Firefly movie!

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 5:58 p.m. CST

    This will only encourage more people to post...

    by HavokJD

    The format before was keeping people from putting up intelligent postings. Most people were like "why bother?" This is definitely a step in the right direction. Maybe we will get to read something more interesting in talkback than the infantile banter that usually goes on.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:29 p.m. CST

    they are tricky

    by kabong

    Now I'm thinking scam. They've got some unshown episodes that they'll cobble together and call a movie, maybe use some lame frame like memoirs of an amnesiac. Ah, it doesn't havta make sense, da fans'll buy it.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Firefly movie? What's next? Cop Rock the movie?

    by Sherlock_Holmes_

    When a show FLOPS it doesn't deserve to be put on the big screen. It should be buried with the rest of Joss Whedon's bad ideas, bad writing, and bad actors.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Far Out Space Nuts The Movie

    by Syd Mead

    That would be a gem. Firefly is a re-hash of "Space: Above and Beyond" if you recall that long running TV space opera.

  • Sept. 5, 2003, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Wait for some kind of following

    by King Rex

    Damn a movie for a show that was cancelled after it's first year. That sounds like bad money after bad. At least the Trek series waited 10+ years before they made a movie that was targeted at a fan base that grew over time. They should make a Perfect Strangers movie next!

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 1 a.m. CST

    HavokJD wrote...

    by BiPolarBear

    "The format before was keeping people from putting up intelligent postings." I tend to think it's people's lack of intelligence that keeps most from putting up intelligent postings, but the format certainly didn't help.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 11:02 a.m. CST

    FIREFLY lives

    by RogueScribner

    This is the best news I've heard all week. I had a little resistance to the show at first, probably because I never got a proper introduction to this universe (stupid Fox airing the pilot episode LAST). Once I got my feet wet in Joss' new baby, I started to groove to it. Towards the end I was beginning to fall for this show hard. The characters were just wonderful. The plots started escalating as well (what's up with River? Book? Jayne?), but it was all too good to be true. Fox had to burst the bubble and cancel the series prematurely. I know this was an expensive series and the ratings didn't justify keeping it on the air. However, I don't think FIREFLY was given a fair shot. Fox aired eps out of order, pre-empted shows for sports, and advertised it minimally. Not to mention that they threw it in Friday Death Nights. Maybe things would have been different if they'd waited until midseason. Maybe not. All I know is that I was crushed when the show was cancelled. Moreso because none of the hanging threads were resolved. It just stopped cold, with still three more eps unaired. But now I hear about a movie that could resolve everything. That could open up the universe and hopefully add to the fanbase. Couple this with the new DVD set coming out and I'm one happy camper. I wish Joss Whedon all the success in the world. There's no one else like him. L8r

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 1:59 p.m. CST

    its funny how the haters are so fuckin stupid

    by themidnighter23

    Firefly was doomed from the start by the fox tv execs. they didnt even let the show start the correct way, from the very beginning. I hope a film comes out, hell I hope a franchise somehow comes out of this. It was really a fun show to watch. now, if only Farscape movie could be made too

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 4:51 p.m. CST


    by raw_bean

    Has Joss Whedon been 'nowned' enough yet for us to start 'renowning' him?

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 6 p.m. CST

    In response to Bipolarbear

    by HavokJD

    I completely agree with you. What I was trying to convey was that alot of people get on here, see all the lamer posts filling up your monitor, and decide not to post. Why bother to post anything that actually might be interesting to read when it will get lost and drown in a sea of "lamer witticisms." The people who might actually say something interesting or might actually use the talkback to further discussion of the topic, don't feel like wasting their time. They have lives. But again I completely agree with you, but I definitely think this simple change in format, while not completely getting rid of the lamers who waste space (would just be impossible), helps the talkback get back to the point if we so wish it.

  • I actually watched several episodes of this show, so I know what I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with the order the shows were aired in. It has nothing to do with the confusing plots and the confusing mess of characters. It's even simpler than that. I hated this show because every character in it looked exactly the same. I couldn't tell one person from another (well, unless they had obvious gender differences). Furthermore, I hated the captain, Nathan Fillion. He was a total asshole, as was the dude with the goatee (not to mention they were both exceptionally bland). Even worse: for some reason, the people on this show wore cowboy boots and used Winchester rifles. IMO, that's going a little too far to evoke the "space cowboy" theme. To sum up: Bland, unsympathetic characters, and cheesy props and costumes made a bad TV show, and they'll make an equally shitty movie. Of course, load it up with special effects and low necklines and everyone will watch it.

  • Sept. 6, 2003, 10:41 p.m. CST

    I'd believe reports of a FARSCAPE film before a Joss Wedon Sci-F

    by StoneMonkey

    Henson & Co are quietly working on the FS film and more as we speak, read, etc...just you wait.

  • Sept. 7, 2003, 12:18 a.m. CST

    To all the Farscapers out there:

    by mullymt

    Realize that if this movie does well, then every studio in Hollywood will be digging in the geek garbage bin. The studios will realize that hardcore fans + (relatively) low production costs = many dollars of profit. Great shows that were prematurely trashed by idiot execs will be resurrected in feature film form. And guess what? Farscape is at the top of the heap.

  • Sept. 7, 2003, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Bebop without Ed?! That's blasphemy!!!

    by turk128

    And don't forget Ein; I'd pay to see a flic with those pair alone. BTW can't wait for the Firefly the movie!

  • Sept. 7, 2003, 12:23 p.m. CST

    You're right.

    by radio1_mike

    Firefly was an acquired taste. But I did acquire it. It was so nice to see a series that was not hapless (e.g. Star Trek), over-hyped (e.g. Star Wars) or tired (e.g. X-Files or Babylon 5). Interesting characters, nice acting... As long as they bring back everyone, what is the problem? This would be payback for the cancellation of this show, and my other favorite-- Space: Above and Beyond.

  • Sept. 7, 2003, 12:25 p.m. CST


    by radio1_mike

    Farscape as a movie would be noxy too.

  • Sept. 8, 2003, 3:01 a.m. CST

    This piece of no news gets a 16 point font?

    by El_Barstardo

    Herc is such a bias fucking idiot it makes me sick. I have never seen the show but I hate it just because of the retarded JW fanboys. "Best show ever!" - how the hell can a half a season of anything be regarded as the best show ever is beyond me. Get a grip you clowns. As for that assclown who says "all FF needs is to make $80 - $90 MILLION", I have a few oceans to sell you.

  • Sept. 8, 2003, 8:05 p.m. CST


    by cooper2000

    This seems a waste to me. Where is the audience for a movie made from a failed TV show? Farscape I could understand because it was on for 4 years but this wasnt even on a whole season. Even the original Trek back in the 60s was off the air for 10 years to garner further interest from Reruns. Joss needs to wake up and realize this project was bust and move on.

  • Sept. 8, 2003, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Police Squad! was a failed TV show, only 6 episodes

    by DarthHomercles

    And that segued into the successful NAKED GUN movies. Booyah! In the end, it's not so much where a movie has its roots, but whether it can stand on its own and be, well, a good movie!

  • Sept. 9, 2003, 12:06 a.m. CST

    Quitcher Moanin!

    by JubileEarly

    Contrariwise. Firefly is a fully realized environment. A lived in show, it is found not in the slick, but in the dank. It's found in the cowboy boots and the shotguns. It's found in the dialects and the language. It's impossible for me to understand why people would bother blasting this concept on a message board, when wheels are turnin' in big fancy Hollywood right now... tryin' ta throw it up on the movie screens perfect an right. My best guess is some folk jus don't like admittin they's wrong 'bout certain shows wit charismatic actors, brilliant performances, and shiny dialogue... an did I mention the special effects? Yee-haw! An let's stop comparin' it ta Cowboy Bebop... folks on Serenity? They get's payed an all!

  • Sept. 9, 2003, 1:41 p.m. CST

    to da nay sayers

    by radjac29

    just wait till the dvds come out and watch the shows in the order they were meant to be seen and maybe youll get alittle more out of it, or just go sit in your bunk and wait for your stargate sg-1 and farscape movie

  • Sept. 9, 2003, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Coming soon, another crappy movie from Universal

    by chasfkane

    From IMDb Studio Brief -- Diller on Universal's Films: "Awful" - Barry Diller has acknowledged that he had numerous opportunities in recent months to buy Vivendi Universal's U.S. entertainment assets but turned them down, in part because he has come to loathe the products they are turning out. "I don't know anyone who says anything other than, 'God, these movies are awful,'" he told the London Daily Telegraph. -- Hmm, wonder what they'll say about this one?

  • Sept. 10, 2003, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Great news!!

    by Hjermsted

    Soon everyone will have the chance to experience Firefly as intended (untainted by Fox inc.) This is great news. Not sure where all this tit for tat is coming from (IF this show.. then why not THAT show..?) The quality of sci fi shows is all a matter of personal opinion, people. I thought Firefly rocked and was looking forward to a full season of it when Fox pulled the plug (the plug they only pushed in half way in the first place). **** RE: Gina Torres: I can't imagine anyone else in the role of Zoe. You didn't like her in the episode "War Stories"? C'mon! She was fantastic! **** Some people like the way Whedon tells stories... some people like Staczynski... some people (not sure why) still think Lucas is the man... once again, it's all opinion. Whedon is a fantastic writer/director and isn't going away any time soon... so go bitch yourself into a coronary if that helps you get through the day.

  • Sept. 11, 2003, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Firefly had more viewers than Buffy and Angel

    by JackDonkey

    Fox just cancelled cause of profit margins. Or maybe it was foxes CEO's time of the month