A Mixed Reaction To KILL BILL Volume One!!

And apparently neither does anybody else.

It's a shame if Tarantino has forgotten what made him a success in the first place - he is primarily a writer of excellent dialogue first and a director second. The early review make me suspect that this could turn into a Reloaded style fight-scene yawnfest. Damn it.

Why is it that Boston is used for the test screening of such an important release, where is the UK test screening. Why is it that the people of Boston are considered more important than the rest of us? More test screening needed in the UK Goddamn it!

***spinning propeller dong***

Maybe Miramax have seen this could be Tarantino's weakest film and have decided to go for 2 films to maximise revenue.

Anytime a director takes this long to get back in the saddle and then spends so much time putting together an "epic" it sets up an impossible expectation. I'm glad this review came out to lower my expectations before I see the film. That always helps a little.

I can't wait to see this movie. Good, bad, I don't care!

Hell, thats all people want these days. more fight scenes.

And the first film ends with SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS.............Uma being buried alive. That's going to be really sucky. How irritating is that? And by the end of the first film we barely have any idea what's going on. All throughout, Uma seeks out people we don't know.....and kills them for reasons we don't understand. We get little hints and by the end we hafve a vague outline, but things still aren't very fleshed out. There is honestly SO much gore that it will HAVE to be SEVERELY edited, at least until the DVD. And there is so much sword fighting that no matter how cool, it wil get a little boring. If I have no idea who characters are, why they're fighting each other or what their "motivation" is, then will I give a shit? I don't know, all I can think of is Honzo standing on Uma's blade. El Retardo. My opinion of this film completely reversed when Miramax decided to try to bilk us for additional ticket sales for the same story, a story that was PLANNED and SHOT for one film. So instead of one 3 hour film, they want to charge us twice for two 1 1/2 hour films. This sucks. I may very well just wait for the DVD. Of course, I'll probably have to BUY TWO OF THEM!

but I could've written that review from the trailer. DAMMIT Whilst writing this I've just realised I missed an interview with Robert Englund on the radio. SHIT

has only a fraction of the number of advanced screenings a lot of shittier cities have. let boston have kill bill, you UK-douchebag.

Listen eveyone, I think Tarantino let us all know from the very beginning that he was going in a very different direction with this film. OF COURSE it's going to be aimed towards action/ classic kung-fu fans. If too many people start expecting this to be something it's not, which many of us are, then OF COURSE it will be somewhat of a disappointment. But take it for what it is...a somewhat silent, yet beautifully stylized kick in the ass. No royales with cheese, or Mr. (insert color here)...but something new. Dig it or don't, but you're going to have to deal with it.

Two words. Heaven's Gate. Miramax know they have a bomb on their hands, but they know even if people do not like the first part, they will still go see the second to "give it another chance". Thus, if they can get a $50 mil box office with the first one and then $30 mil with the 2nd, they won't have an epic flop on their hands. The fact that a QT movie is being spilt into two parts is insane. Of his three films, Dogs is the only one that is not too long. Pulp didn't need the taxi driver scene or the "Pot Belly" scene. (Just flick through these when your watching the movie, you won't notice the difference) and Jackie Brown was about 60 minutes too long. Kill Bill should just be called Istar 2 and 3.

I would have seen it had it been the epic they suggested, but splitting it into 2 just to gouge the viewer into paying twice for the same movie is 'the shits'.

you retards pay to see shit at the movie theaters all the time. I can't believe how many of you loved that piece of ass cheese daredevil and yet your all up in arms about kill bill being two movies. If you won't pay to see two tarantino movies you shouldn't be watching movies at all. come on, i know a whole ass load of you paid to see both episode one and two more than once at the theaters, and you know tarantino could shit on toast for two hours and it would be better than Jack ass george's filth he excreted on us in 99 and 02. If you willing to pay to see the bastardization of one of the greatest movie trilogies of all time then you should be willing to pay to see a tarantino film even if its split into 10 parts. so do all of us a favor who actually like films and aren't just fan-boys: shut the fuck up.

News to me. Actually, isn't $50 to $60 million a hit for QT. His movies are good, but they aren't exactly blockbusters. Just saying.

Miramax knows that: 1) KILL BILL will have a narrower fan-base than something like Pulp Fiction; 2) a lot of Pulp Fiction fans turned on Tarantino after Jackie Brown (which I recently have retracted all my statements of it being too long; it's brilliant); 3) the talk-back assholes - that basically bash anything not based on a Tolkien novel and/or directed by Peter Jackson - that were all flocking to anything related to Tarantino 7 years ago all now think he sucks. So yeah, they're cutting it into 2 parts because they now realize that Tarantino is that rare director that is almost his own genre (like Altman has become at this point) and therefore has less commercial appeal than other directors. But I read the script and the whole way through, I said, "This is going to be the greatest movie ever!" So I have no worries. AND THE MORONS WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT MIRAMAX TRYING TO GET DOUBLE THE MONEY FORGET THAT IF THEY DON'T LIKE PART ONE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE PART TWO. GODDAMN SHEEP!

I thought it was a good script, and it probably will be a good movie, but there really wasn't enough great dialogue as I hoped for. I agree completely with the too much fighting. The 15 minute fight, I assume is the one with Lucy Liu and the Crazy 88, because it seemed to go on forever in the script, and it was just more of the same. I did like the script, and I will see the movie, but it seems it just has too much action. I am sure a lot of people will love that though. Oh, and the personally who made the comment about the "Pot Belly" and Taxi scene in Pulp Fiction not being needed...Those were the only two scenes in the movie I didn't like. It is a shame the taxi scene is Tarantino's favorite in the movie.

Yeah, that would be too bad. Especially in Reloaded, where the dialogue and plot were retarded. Anyway, Tarantino and kung-fu - how can I lose?

Preach on, brother.

Why is Boston considered more important than you? Well, for starters, we're not arrogant brits. For god's sake, let Boston have something. Other than a Super Bowl title two years ago, Boston hasn't had a claim to fame since the fucking Tea Party. Goddamn hole-in-the-streets, red-sox loving, playoff-losing, ray-bourque-trading, NKOTB-spawning motherfucking Boston. Fucking hell, I love this town.

Miramax also realized that most people won't sit in a theatre for more than 2 hours unless it's Lord of the Rings or Titanic. That says more about the American attention span than the quality of Kill Bill.

On the Iron Monkey DVD, QT said that he loved Kung-Fu films, so, I never really expected KILL BILL, a Kung-Fu flick, to be anything like Pulp Fiction. Could anyone tell us EXACTLY how long this first part of Kill Bill was? Because if both movies (1 & 2) combined total only 3 hours, I'll be upset. It will only make sense that Miramax split it if both 1 & 2 are 2 hours each. Besides, Miramax, where's HERO and LEGENDS OF ZU?

please?

You dont like it then get a fucken new hobby you poor excuse for a film buff. read a book, get a girl. you cant afford 20 bucks for a movie experience? you didnt think the matrix was worth 10 bucks? assholes like you probably justify movie piracy and are totally satisfied watching a movie on a little 15 inch monitor. go to fucken hell you piece of shit. tarantino is A good guy, and hes got the balls to make a movie that nobody else will make. a movie that tells a story and doesnt follow the same old blockbuster formula. if you cant see that then your stupider than I thought.

I'll check out Kill Bill for the style alone (and also because of the kick-ass music in the trailer). But does anyone have any idea what Tarantino is going to do next? I haven't heard what, if anything, he has lined up. I'd love to see a James Bond-style spy thriller.

Go here: www.movie-page.com/movie_scripts.htm Read it and you'll see for yourself why this film is the product of timid studio executives lacking the balls to stand up to QT and say the guy's got no clothes as far as this script is concerned. It actually starts out as an exciting read; it drew me in and got me looking forward to what I thought *had* to be some pretty intriguing plot twists and character motivations. How could someone do what Bill does in the first 5 minutes? Did someone kill his whole family by lighting them on fire and pushing them out of an airplane into a volcano? How did this situation come about? But as I kept reading--and waiting--I quickly began to realize...there wasn't anything *there*. This is a *very* pedestrian revenge tale, dressed up with cliched kung-fu training flashbacks, endless and repetitive martial arts combat, and page after page after page of some of the most violent scenes in recent memory. Each scene consists of attempt after attempt to shock and bludgeon the audience into a numb stupor with ever-increasing violence. Reading this thing, I couldn't help imagining QT, this stunted adolescent, as he was grunting it out on paper squealing and rubbing his hands together, "Oooo--oooo, yeah, wait'll they see *this*, chopping these guys arms off, then swinging them like nun-chuks, yeah, my fan's will love it! Oh and when Lucy Liu decapitates this guy, it's gonna be *great*, yeah, I gotta get the geyser of blood shooting from his shoulder blades *just* right..." And the ending...good lord, has this guy ever gotten laid? His sense of emotional motivation for people seems mired in playground bravado and idealized notions of the jr. high crush. This thing reads like the ramblings of a 15 year old from Columbine. So why does Bill shoot Uma in the first place? "There are consequences to breaking the heart of a murdering bastard. You experienced some of them." Oh. Well thanks for clearing that up. Disaster of epic proportions. One can only hope this will keep the guy off the streets for a few *more* years.

George Lucas made killer films early, and now we get the Philly crap sandwiches with whiz from him. Tarintino kicked butt early, heck, he might kick butt now, you never can account for personal tastes. I hope he still has it. And speaking of personal tastes. Pirates of the Carribean sucked as much as Shrek did, you stupid bastards who told me it was good.

To paraphrase, "Don't get me wrong, I am sure that hardcore (Wachowski) and Kung Fu fans will love (Reloaded and Revolutions), but imagine if the original Matrix film contained 10 more fight scenes and less plot and dialogue. To my mind, it could have been more heavily edited, lost some of the fight scenes (or made them shorter - one seemed to go on for about 15 minutes) and maybe been condensed into one movie."

The reason I say this is the theatre is in M.I.T.'s backyard. This is funny to those, like myself, that saw Orgazmo in the same art megaplex, because of its undeserved NC-17 rating. What made it funny was the scene when Orgazmo mistakes Choda Boy's alma mater, M.I.T., for being in Boston and Choda quickly corrects him about the university being in Cambridge. Well, this was one of the few times the audience laughed, since they seemed not to like the movie, but obviously knew the area. I realize how useless and unfunny this information truly is, but I am still in a daze since I missed the Kill Bill screening.

His next film is a WWII film called "Inglorious Bastards". It's already been written at this point. Personally I don't like war films, so I don't know if I will check it out, I need to hear more about it. His production company A Band Apart is also apparently working on some upcomnig soccer film titled "Goal", that Tarantino mgiht have soem involvement in. Kill Bill's DVD release is being sold as two separate DVDs, but shortly after, a combination set of two will be released. I guess that is convenient if you really hated the 2nd Volume, or if you hated the first...or maybe the fucknig thing shouldn't be split up to begin with.

There's a lot of frustration surrounding this film / these films and this is leading to a damning view of something the majority of us have not seen yet. It would be easy to pinpoint the frustration, and thus the retarded nonsense being spouted because of it, on the decision to split the film into two parts. Sure this is a way of increasing revenue and may hint at the studio's low level confidence in their product but if we are honest with ourselves, kung-fu works better as a shorter film. After all 3hrs of the best martial arts action ever committed to screen is still 3hrs of basic plot and naturally low-level characterisation- cinematic idiosyncrasies that would not carry a 3hr film. Perhaps it needs to be split up into two parts for maximum impact. However, I don't actually believe that the frustration originates from this decision. I believe the naysayers have more fundamental problems with the film. This is the same reason for disgust that was had at Scorcese for doing Kundun, or at The Hulk for not being an out and out "blockbuster". Simply put it's morons wanting to categorize everything into safe little boxes where nothing ever changes. Had they had their way Marty would have done Raging Bull 2: La Motta's Comeback and The Hulk would have been just the same as all the tv episodes- just with better effects. As for QT, well kung-fu is hardly tarantinoesque is it? Where's the gangsters and the sam jacksonified dialogue? It is here that the real frustration lies, and it is wrong. To limit our expectations of film is such a territorial and small minded manner is usually how sequels get made, not how films do. As an audience we should embrace the potentially limitless nature of the cinema, not condemn those who try and exercise it.

Can't wait to see this - both parts. And for those complaining about lengthy fight scenes - it's a kung fu movie for crying out loud, not The Hours!

Hell, I'd still like to see it. It sounds like something I would enjoy, though it would be nice to have some quality Tarantino-speak.

Filmrot.com It fuckin rocks. True Romance rocked hard. Reservoir dogs sucked. Pulp fiction ruled. Jackie brown was pure mediocrity. Maybe Kill Bill will rule all. but then since it's broken into two films it has a chance to suck at part 2.

I love QT's movies and love kung fu flicks (I just but Chinese Super Ninjaon DVD-sweet)but this does not look promising. Uma's a beautiful, talented actresses who hasn't been getting enough work lately(By choice?) but I don't want to see her kicking ass. Suspending disbelief for Karate movies is hard enough but it's almost impossible with Uma as the lead. Charlie's Angel's, OTT as it was, looked even more absurd watching those poor wires strain to lift the ever expanding ass of Drew Barrymore. And Lucy Lui? C'mon, isn't she worried about being typecast as the bad-ass dragon lady? Payback, CA 1&2, Ballistic, and now this. However with QT at the helm the movie still has hope. Then again Woo made MI2, Raimi made For the Love of the Game, Carpenter made Escape from LA, Craven made Deadly Friend, Lucas made the SW prequals, etc.

Based on some interviews I have heard with QT, I think what he's going for here is an homage to the old Kung Fu flicks like the Shaw's Bros "Five Deadly Venoms" and the like. Movies like these did not have stellar dialogue or plots that were overly complex. They were enjoyable for the action and the characters. I think people would be better off keeping that in mind when going to see this. Don't expect a Pulp Fiction with Kung Fu in it or you'll be disappointed.

The right place for "Volume I" to end would be when Uma is buried alive and FREAKS OUT. FADE OUT, END PART ONE. Then, in the original screenplay, she would breath in, get her shit together and punch herself out of six feet of dirt - THAT would be a kickass opener for part two.

honestly people, if you don't know anything more about film then you can get from going to the movies and taking a film for non majors class, then please don't waste our time with your worthless comments. Film is a storytelling medium ( a case can be made that all art is, in some way). but what you all seem to forget, pressumably because you like to quote clever lines that use lots of swear words (oooohhh!), is that film is a VISUAL STORYTELLING MEDIUM. Dialouge is important and can be used well, but please there were decades of silent films (many of which are still excellent to watch). Who knows maybe you're all too god damn ADHD to understand a story that someone doesn't talk at you. I haven't even seen the film, but at least Im not so arrogant and ignorant as to make judgements on it based on reviews from people with god knows what kind of qualifications. Hey just because Harry prints it doesn't mean the reviewer isn't a stinking worthless brain dead ball licker. Oh yeah and when any of you ever makes a movie that is a fraction as good as pulp fiction or hell even half as good as Cannibal the Musical, then you can talk. You know, I just wish that the professionals that read this site would chime in sometimes, maybe with a little actual, intellegent commentary. Then maybe the serious film lovers on this site could learn something, instead of having to listen to angry fan boys that like the idea of movies better than actual movies. Why don't you start your own site of people who hate every movie because its not exactly the way they pictured it in their head based on barely an iota of information they got from reading websites that are not 100% reliable. have more respect for the hard work that the artist do. Remember, those who can't do, teach. And those who can't teach just waste our fucking oxygen by bitching about how their personal aesthetic sense has been offended. Apox on all of the naysayers, if you can't say something nice, oh wait how does it go...shut the fuck up. You smell like old cheese.

What is that groovy song used in the trailer for Kill Bill?

am i gonna get banned? i just wanted to see Hero on the screen instead of a bunch of spastics.

The guy behaves like in the movies. Same character.

First,Let me say that I probably won't go see this film in theaters.Not because i'm not interested it's just theaters kind of suck these days and if the theater is nice usually you have some asshole sitting right next to you with a cellphone ringing every 5 seconds.Not to mention I refuse to pay 20 just for myself to see the same film twice.Q.T. is a very talented director and writer(even though J.Brown was boring it had it's moments)and with stricter ratings these days I miss the good ol'fashion splatter fest made for twisted individuals like ourselves.I really have no point except to say stop bashing people and give the film a chance it might suprise you.Oh and by the way what was the last blockbuster film you hateful sons of bitches made.........That's what I thought.

Lot's of beautifully choreographed action? Sounds good to me. Not much plot? ..well im sure it will still have about 5 times as much plot as Terminator 3. Goodwork Mr. Tarantino! I cannot wait for this movie.

Firstly the script , the guy that waffles about the script being childish etc etc etc , what are you talking about it's more or less how the TMan wants to shoot the film , if you want more depth then it would be a novel of which i believe there was going to be one but got cancelled, Prehaps the TMan thought it didn't warrant being a novel ?. Secondly those bantering on about oh is gonna be a flop floppody doo da , do you think the TMan gives a shit he doesn't need the American market for this film he's got the Asian market which he will make a killing on cus they will lap it up bling bling bling bling , so will us Europeans who will lap it up as well more bling bling bling. So i think the TMan should move the premier to Japan , China or London and not even show it in America cus all you lot seem to do is dis & bitch about one of the most interesting film makers out there you don't realise how good the TMan is and you are taking him for granted can't you see he is experimenting and trying to grow as a film maker enjoy the journey. There is a song that sums up kill bill "Can't take my eyes of off you , your just to good to be true" For those of us that get it it will be cool and for those of you that don't it will just make it even fucking cooler.

I've not really paid a lot of attention to the news on this. I think this might be a good thing. (Sorry Harry!) I'm just going to go see it, expecting a shit load of unessasary violence, offensive content, lot's of nods to the REAL CHEEEEZY Hong Kong mellowdrama fighting films, some great camera work, and a lot more violence... (while... LOVING EVERY BIT OF IT!) I'll welcome any intelligent undertones and messages/commentarys about socity and human nature with open arms but really... I'm just gonna go and get my I.D. on. Peace.

Too bad. I was really looking forward to this one. No Palm D'Or for KB1. What happens to KB2 if KB1 tanks?

Kindly go fuck yourself.

You see it is the things people like that tell the most about them, and about the way they are. Bashing tarantino, even to the point of claiming you liked his most popular film before you crap on the others shows more about you than about the people who like his movies. Pulp and Jackie appealed to more people than Reservoir Dogs, and many former Tarantion fans bashed Pulp Fiction the way my friend bashed Metallica after "...And Justice for All" came out: (to wit) "They've sold out!!" To which I say to you what Hetfield and the other members of the band said to their fair-weather, trendy-conscious fans, "Yeah we sell out, every place we perform."

i just wanted to say that

hell roger ebert didnt like spider man even one critic didnt like finding nemo when i took my dad to ttt he thought it was the worst movie of the year

a film like matrix with more action and less plot? with tarantino behind it? i got nothing to complain about. he's all about style anyway.

Ha! First off: the Tman isn't trying to grow as a film maker, at least not with this film. Tarantino set the bar so high with the one, two knockout of Res and Pulp that a decent movie like Jackie Brown was a bit of a disapointment. How do you top Pulp, a masterpiece that had such a impact? You can't. So Quentin took a little time off, enjoyed his well deserved earnings, got laid, watched every movie ever made (except the Merchant Ivory video's) and decided to not top himself, not make a Godfather 3. He decided on an epic kung fu revenge flick, yeah baby! Fuck the transcendent great dialouge, he didn't need the pressure, he wanted to have fun. So don't expect something great, expect a pure popcorn flick, violent with some wit and lots of cool style. Where Pulp fiction was a series of great short stories, a full meal, Kill Bill is going to be a comic book that moves, a bag of M & M's tasty but not entirely satisifying. (Too bad that's all Hollywood big ticket movies seem to aim for anymore no substance, no meat. Give me Jaws, Aliens, or Goodfellas any day enough with the Badboys 2, crap.) I'll enjoy Kill Bill I'm sure, but I can't wait for the Tarantino who's aim is higher. (Just no Merchant Ivory stuff please)

Read the other comments. Loved Pulp Fiction, and Reservoir Dogs. Jackie Brown was very good, but not in the same league. True Romance was great. Natural Born Killers was good, but nothing special. Fiction and Romance are the best two. Looking forward to seeing Kill Bill. Not sure about splitting film into two parts. If your'e enjoying a film, then watching 3 hours or more in one go, won't be a problem. If your'e not, well thank God, it's only 9o minutes long. As for the film being all action, well yes it can get boring. But it depends how it's done. Speed was all action, but I loved it. The only dissapointing thing about Kill Bill (before having seen it) is that Cameron Diaz isn't in it. Actually, thinking about it now, I don't think I'll bother with it. Martin