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The Amazing SPIDER-MAN 2 posters!

Published at:  Jul 30, 2003 1:15:10 PM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here... Last week Quint gave ya the first look at Doc Ock from the San Diego Comic Con... and the look was... to say the least... MOUTHWATERING. Sony had released the one sheet this week on their site, but since it was the same ol shot, I wasn't too keen on posting just it to the site... But today - the Spider-Man poster hit as well, so now ya gots both! Here ya go...


















And then today - SuperHeroHype.Com posted the following new Spidey-hero poster for the upcoming film! God I love the look of these Marvel posters! For a bigger version, head over to SuperHeroHype!


















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  • Jul 30, 2003 1:20:18 PM CDT

    2nd one has to be fack. God I hope.

    by dommy-gnome

  • Jul 30, 2003 1:20:51 PM CDT

    FAKE

    by dommy-gnome

  • Jul 30, 2003 1:20:52 PM CDT

    first posters like me rock(but only me)

    by narky

    those legs look scary fake, but on first glance i really liked it.

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  • Jul 30, 2003 1:21:01 PM CDT

    Doc Oc looks awesome

    by madtrout

    BIG improvement over Goblin

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  • Jul 30, 2003 1:26:59 PM CDT

    What? No white labcoat?

    by heywood jablowme

    Sorry, had to throw it out there. Ladies and assholes, commence your bitching. And when can we get the scoop on Bruce Campbell's pivotal Oscar-caliber turn in this epic piece of cinema? I can't wait for that douchebag to grace the silver screen with his awesome presence.

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  • The Doc Ock clip shown at the San Diego Con simply rocked the house. I can't wait for SPIDER-MAN 2...even if we have to put up with dumbass illiterates that are unable to comprehend a simple hyphen.

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  • Jul 30, 2003 1:51:01 PM CDT

    Hoping this message reaches you.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Spider-Man and Harry Potter articles posted on same day... Conditions... unstable. Crash... eminent... Difficult even to get this far... Everything's... slowing... down... Tell my wife... I love her! sk...

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  • Jul 30, 2003 2:00:37 PM CDT

    Looks great (snicker snicker)

    by andrewwankenobi

    What the hell is Doc Ock standing on that makes the Empire State Building look as small as the model in Zoolander? I mean come on! Nothing is that high up in the air in NYC...

    On the other hand, Spidey looks pretty cool... sort of. It looks like Broadway in the SoHo area. I'd bet dollars to donuts that they aren't the real movie posters though. or at least the final versions.

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  • Jul 30, 2003 2:28:46 PM CDT

    Macy's Thangsgiving Day Parade: The Movie

    by nice marmot

    I can't wait to see this but that 2nd poster looks horrible.

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  • Jul 30, 2003 2:33:14 PM CDT

    Nosferatu: The pecking order of cool

    by spyguy

    Actually, comic book fans rank far better than Trekkies. Here's the most current list of Cool from Most Cool to Least Cool:

    1. Navy SEALs
    2. Black belt martial artists
    3. Firefighters
    4. Rock stars
    5. Movie actors
    6. TV actors
    7. Pro football players
    8. Playboy centerfolds
    9. Doctors
    10. Police officers
    11. President of the United States
    12. PIXAR employees
    13. Guests on "The Howard Stern Show"
    14. Kevin Smith (Clerks)
    15. Soap opera actors
    16. Barnes & Noble employees
    17. Comic book fans
    18. Sociopaths
    19. Telemarketers
    20. Sanitation engineers
    21. Panelists on "The View"
    22. Network TV executives
    23. Kevin Smith (Chasing Amy)
    24. Trekkies
    25. Identity thieves
    26. Democrats
    27. People who drive Volvos
    28. People who watch "Baby Bob"
    29. Child molesters
    30. AICN talkbackers

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  • Jul 30, 2003 3:21:45 PM CDT

    First they trashed Green Goblin, now Dock Ock!

    by sith witch

    I hate the way Doc Ock looks for this film! Where is his Beatles-haircut, his pudginess? Why does he wear a black leather lab coat? Why are the tentacles sqaurish in shape rather than the good ol' rounded ones? They cast great actors in the roles, but then drastically change their appearance to something much less from the comics. This is like the Super Mario Bros. film from 1994. My hopes for this film have suddenly plummeted...

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  • Jul 31, 2003 1:29:21 AM CDT

    I'm still waiting...

    by fnordknt

    I'm still waiting for THE STUPID TAG LINE...Not look forward to SpiderMan 2 - A Spider's Choice...Or something retarded Like that...JUST LEAVE IT SPIDER MAN 2...FUCK

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  • Jul 31, 2003 2:28:14 AM CDT

    Dude Doc Oc looks kick ass!

    by zeldas

    but where is his Beatles haircut??

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:33:31 AM CDT

    Spyguy, you made one little mistake

    by robinp

    President of the U.S. is ABOVE being a Pixar employee ? Oh, no,no,deary me no. You'd rather be George Dubbya than the guy who animated Buzz Lightyear ? Nice posters, but they'd be even better if they adopted the Ditko classic pose of Spidey suspended upside down on his web with his back to the camera.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:05:31 AM CDT

    You twats crack me up

    by sunra

    What are you moaning dickheads banging on about? Where's his beatles haircut? Where's his white lab coat? Wheres his tubbiness. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SUCKERS OF SATAN"S COCK! Ock would look stupid if he kept his comic book look. The coat is brown by the way jar heads! Just be thankfull we're getting such movies. Put down your copies of chunky ass's, get a date and grow up...

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:14:24 AM CDT

    Imagine if they did just get a fat guy with beatles haircut?

    by earthworm

    It would have just looked like S Shaun Ryder in a lab coat. Hang on a minute...

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:20:05 AM CDT

    no subject

    by mark

    Looks to me like Doc Ock is standing on the Chrysler building.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:28:17 AM CDT

    I knew it!

    by elgordo

    I knew that there must be a real life model for the comic book guy in the Simpsons and he's right here in the Talk back. Fat? Beatles hair cut? What are you people? Morons?

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:36:57 AM CDT

    of all outfits, why a friggin' trenchcoat??

    by phasmatrope


    ...I mean, it kinda looks cool for the one-sheet, but still: how many scientists/doctors do you know that wear long trenchcoats? Even if it were white, or Dr. Ock's classic green (which might be forgiveable), why would a character as mobile as Dr. Octopus, with all those extra mechanical limbs flailing about & moving him around REASONABLY wear something long like a trenchcoat that could potentially get tangled up in his extra arms? I don't think the costume designer put a lot of planning into that one...

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:45:26 AM CDT

    Tell ya what, Phasmatrope...

    by tbrosz

    You tell me how Batman and Matrix's Neo do spectacular flips and ninja acrobatics while wearing a long cape or a calf-length trenchcoat, and I'll tell you how Doc Ock manages it.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:46:34 AM CDT

    RE: The two SpiderMan 2 Posters...

    by zone zero

    Okay, I'll state my opinions on each poster seperately. Poster #1(Doc. Ock): That poster is LEGIT. I have actually seen several shots of said poster on diffrent web pages. Including a shot of a LARGE version of the poster. Again, the first one is legit. Poster #2(The Spidey Shot): Well... this one is questionible. It doesn't match the other's quality. Although, it looks like the image was a scan of a hastily taken picture of the poster, since the bottom (with the copyright info and what not) was chopped off due to poor aiming of the camera. Remember, it's roughly 6 months before the marketing kicks in for this. I doubt there is a final "Spidey" poster yet for the movie. The DocOck poster was made to get fanboy's mouths flapping. I could tell. It does rock.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 5:01:02 AM CDT

    qu

    by cuervojones

  • Jul 31, 2003 5:02:02 AM CDT

    While we're being reasonable Phasmatrope...

    by earthworm

    ...could you tell me how come a boy getting bitten by a spider could *reasonably* gain super powers? Reasonably I mean. And adamantium claws, I mean, what that all about?

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  • Jul 31, 2003 5:12:40 AM CDT

    I'm no naysayer, but I hate the way the claws come OUT at us....

    by theginger twit

    I'm getting all the visuals now.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 5:22:42 AM CDT

    Phantasmatrope, re the trench coat

    by robinp

    Dr Octopus was known to wear a trench coat to conceal his mechanical arms in the original comic strips. Especially if he wanted to wander around the city inconspicuously. How many times have we seen the coat ripped to shreds dramatically by the arms as he suddenly attacks ? Plus, hey, if it rains - he doesn't want his extra appendages to get rusty....

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  • Jul 31, 2003 5:35:44 AM CDT

    No way is PotUS cooler than Pixar

    by heleno

    Unless maybe his name is Bartlett and you are in the wonderful world of West Wing.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 5:55:26 AM CDT

    No lab-coat BECAUSE

    by chien_sale

    This Doc.Ock won`t be the chubby nerdy-type this time. He won`t be a mix of Bill Gates and Dan Ackroyd. More like a sinister, twisted figure. As a main villain for a super-hero, Dock.Ock always was extremly lame, so consider it an improvement. Hey, it would be cool if Dock.Ock would channel the Matrix, if you ask me: picture Jeff Darrow the machinery designer of The Matrix, giving Doc neat new arms(similar to that poster). picture the freak doing bullet-time shit-stunts. sublime, my man

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  • Jul 31, 2003 6:39:16 AM CDT

    The Four Claws

    by ribbons

    This might be the toothpaste talking, but I'm pretty sure that we're given a good look at all four of Octavius's tentacles in order to discern the fact that they have individual personalities. They're all looking out at us because they're all responding to the same thing. One of them is aggressive, one of them is wary like a watchdog, another one recedes into the background and watches us from afar, and the fourth one could care less and is supporting Doc Ock's weight. I dunno, now that I've actually written that down it sounds kind of stoopid. Even if I didn't articulate what (I think) the mastermind behind that poster was trying to accomplish, I have a feeling that's the general idea. It's sort of like the poster for 'Mona Lisa Smile' that went up a couple of days ago: four women responding differently to the same thing. It's a good way of foreshadowing the dynamics in the movie. >< The Spidey poster kind of reminds me of that one of the Hulk in San Fran, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the same guy did both. It's kinda cool and certainly well-done, but I'm not really that big a fan of either.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 7:47:59 AM CDT

    Doc Oc's Lab Coat

    by jam banjo

    I hear Scientists in the New York district are banned from wearing other clothes if they leave the laboratory.

    Jesus Christ. I feel sorry for anyone making movies nowadays having to put up with dumb shit like this.

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  • http://members.rogers.com/fisherjl/trenchcoat.jpg

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  • Jul 31, 2003 8:56:32 AM CDT

    Catastrophic anteaters = banana soup

    by egghead

    french socks hang enthusiasticly over arabic sanwich toaster.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 9:11:20 AM CDT

    you sad fucking cocks

    by satansteve

    Jesus christ! ur moaning about a god dam POSTER! the reason it is blurry is becuz spideys supposed to be swinging really fast! and ur also bitchin about doc ock not looking like he did in the comics! hey, tell you, what fire the guy playing doc ock and get a guy who looks exactly like he does in the comics, give him the dumbass haircut and u know who'd be playing him? elton fucking john! mid battle, he'd pause to play circle of life and comment spidey on how his ass looks in those tights. get a goddam life u sad losers!

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  • Jul 31, 2003 9:25:14 AM CDT

    Elton John

    by earthworm

    Funniest. Post. Ever.

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  • Forget china, lets buy some earplugs for sheep farmers in zimbabwe.
    your sincerely
    a microwave

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  • Jul 31, 2003 9:45:13 AM CDT

    i cant wait

    by ethan vestby

    im so there opening day,woody stiffer sucks cock

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  • I should hope not. Those are your WORK clothes. Ock here, having killed most of his co-workers, has presumably been laid off from his job at the lab (times are tough, y'know), so he's not wearing his work clothes out on the streets. That, and if you're bitching about it, you're a fucking LOSER.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:06:39 AM CDT

    I see Toby's love-handles!!!!

    by macstone

  • Jul 31, 2003 10:08:59 AM CDT

    LEGIT IMAGE BUT NOT A POSTER

    by kage

    That Spidey image is legit from the Spider-Man 2 style guide from Marvel and Columbia. You'll see it again and again used all over merchandising

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:09:58 AM CDT

    MY SPOON IS TOO BIG

    by yako

    Looks cool!

    -yako
    www.mysan.de

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:10:24 AM CDT

    Better Idea for Posters

    by itchy

    What the hell kind of ad campaign is this ? If you want asses in the seat, just throw up a close up of Kirsten Dunst's rack with a small radioactive spider crawling between those sweaty love mounds. Who cares about the plot ... I'm there.

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  • For decades comic fans supported the idea of how Dock Ock is in the comics, buying little busts, action figures, T-shirt, and miscellania related to him. All I ever heard before was what a cool character he is. Now all the sudden when comics fans decry his physical change with the movie, all these people say, "Oh he has always sucked as a fat tard with that bowl-hair. Alfred Molina's role of him is an improvement." Then why has none of these concerns with his looks ever been voiced in the comics community before? Because he is perfect as he has always been represented...

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:28:17 AM CDT

    Superhero films...

    by workshed

    ...is it just me or are they boring the pants off everyone else? No REAL film buff likes this peurile Marvel shit. Will it ever end? By the hype and disappointment surrounding HULK let's hope so. Then we might finally see the majors investing in fresh, vibrant cinema that challenges one's intellect. This world is a serious fuckin' place right now and America needs to assess it's ego in the same way that the cinema of the late 60's and early 70's did so well. ELECTRAGLIDE IN BLUE is the greatest.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:41:01 AM CDT

    superhero films

    by egghead

    here here! weve seen enough.great superman movie,super batman movie, good spiderman conversion,shite hulk attempt.FUCKIN NO MORE PLEASE!!

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  • Til' JULY 2, 2004...because Sony and Sam Raimi know you little bitches will be there. You know the routine, we bitch and moan for a year saying "I don't like this and I don't like that"...but when it's released, your asses are in those seats. Now go ahead and lie to us and tell us that you're not going to go see it...then come back here the day it comes out, and tell us in grave detail about what you don't like. You might as well put some money in an envelope, and send the shit to Sony, because your money is as good as theirs. See you on July 2nd, maggots.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 11:33:38 AM CDT

    hee hee

    by egghead

    i love all this sarcastic american humour! so comic book store guy off the simpsons..

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  • Jul 31, 2003 11:48:53 AM CDT

    Some reasons why Spidey2 will suck

    by serious black

    1. MORE BAD CGI SPIDEY. I enjoyed the first movie but I was shocked at just how bad the CGI was. Viewers are more discriminating with sequels because they've basically already seen the movie once and so they pay more attention to the details. We won't be so forgiving of more bad CGI. 2. MORE XENA-ESQUE ACTION SEQUENCES. It's obvious in the first movie that Sam Raimi spent too much time on that show. 3. MICHAEL CHABON SCRIPT. After Harry had jizz-fits over this guy getting the job, I picked up "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Klay." How this guy won a Pulitzer I don't know. He's got the prose style of a sixth-grader but tries to hide his poor writing by using lots of big words. Lame. Still, he may have a good script. Who knows? But I'm not holding my breath on this movie being good.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 11:54:56 AM CDT

    How 'Bout A Poster Exactly Like This?

    by 0074ever

    This was one of my favorite covers growing up ...

    http://www.samruby.com/AmazingSpider-ManD/Large/AmazSpid89.JPG

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  • Jul 31, 2003 12:19:31 PM CDT

    AICN, you guys depress me

    by low3rthird

    What the hell is wrong with you people? Aren't you guys supposed to be purists? How on earth can you even take the Spider-Man movies seriously? As a designer I can tell you, these posters suck balls. As a longtime Spidey fan I can tell you that these posters suck balls. The current slew of Marvel movies are really depressing, badly made films. There is nothing personal about them, no vision to any of em. The best "comic book" movies are films like Robocop, Terminator, and Aliens, which weren't even based on actual comic books. I seriously don't think a good comic book adaptaion can be done, or at least it hasn't been done yet. The saddest part? I'm not a geek, or a fanboy. Just a guy who likes good cinema. Come on guys, you're not 13 anymore.

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  • Seriously, Lesserthird, do you honestly think people who enjoy these films think that they are highbrow entertainment? Do you enjoy anything that would be considered "lowbrow"? If so, then kindly fuck off. You are just trying to piss uphill by posting on a "Spider-man" thread and telling everyone to "grow up." Personally, I feel that grown ups are boring and I appreciate people who retain some semblance of their youth, as long as they aren't obsessive bitches about it. (Which many people who post here are, but thats another argument.) And I felt that the first Spiderfilm, however flawed, was very personal and had a ton of heart. And so did about a million other people.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:24:24 PM CDT

    Now I see... (Phasmatrope returns)

    by phasmatrope


    Okay, fine, for all the mo'fos who wrote back in response to my question about why Doc Ock would wear a trenchcoat. Maybe the word I SHOULD have used to describe it was impractical, since I wondered why he'd wear something that could get tangled in his tentacles. But if he did used to wear one in the comics as KATS pointed out (a minor detail I'd forgotten), and the comics are pretty much sacred ground, then I can't really question it (all the same, don't tell me that it seems "unreasonable" that our hero acquired superpowers thru a bug bite, because this IS a comic book, so we already expect a degree of make-believe). I guess if Batman and Neo can get away with it then it's all good. Still, I don't know how anyone can call Dr. Ock one of the lamer villains (lamer than who, the Rhino? The Molten Man?), because I've been waiting to see him in live-action for ages. The only reason the Green Goblin was much more memorable a villain was that there was more than one incarnation of him (more, if you count the Hobgoblin), and for years he remained masked, which built up a lot of intrigue. Conversely, I don't really care so much about seeing the Lizard (though I do wonder when we're going to see some shots of him; after all he does make a cameo, right??). Really after this the only villains I really want to see who could look really cool in live-action are: Sandman, Mysterio, and maybe Venom (maybe even Electro, but you HAVE to agree, they would have to tweak that cornball costume of his, purists be damned). 'Nuff said.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:25:19 PM CDT

    yeah.

    by milesmonroe

    i love how the nerds bitch and complain about every minute detail that isn't akin to what "their vision" of Spider-man should be, but you know they're all going to be pissing their pants, waiting in line to see it next summer. i've said it before and i'll say it again... you are all owned by sony pictures. fucking nerds.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:38:40 PM CDT

    tell me, o Octopus, I begs . . .

    by hud

    is them things arms or is the JPEGs?
    I know nobody in his right mind's gonna improve on a story that made hunnerts of millions of dollars, but maybe a less clowny looking villain this time around means a slightly tighter movie? and I liked the first one. Plus

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:46:47 PM CDT

    I can't believe

    by chucks888

    People here are stating how "this is NOT the final poster!"

    Of course it's not! The movie is still ages away! Shocking that a forum full of film nerds don't realize the concept of teaser posters and images. God what a sad bunch of retards. And how dumb are the people who think the second image is 'fake'?

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:53:24 PM CDT

    Heaven help us, the hype train has already started rolling. Cho

    by magilla gorilla

    It's like a year away from this movie's release and Sony's already trying to rouse interest. What's May 2004 going to be like? You won't be able to walk outside without seeing some damn Spider-Man 2 promotional material fluttering down the street. How the hell does Sony make any money with all the cash they blow on advertising? (And, in Spider-Man's case, lawsuits.) Image really is everything, I guess. I agree with the skeptics on this one. Sony's been so hard up for a franchise for so long that they're rushing this thing out in only two years. This makes no sense. Why not slow down, make sure you've got a decent script, and give the production time to take shape? And for Pete's sake, fix the crap CGI this time.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:53:25 PM CDT

    It's not fake... it's just that...

    by stlfilmwire

    To say it's fake is an overstatement. Sure, it's probably legit artwork, but it's definitely not a legit promo or teaser poster. If it was, it would have the Marvel info on it.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 3:57:39 PM CDT

    They're better off leaving landmarks out of their posters

    by son of batboy

    And if this flick is like the last one, it's bound to be the biggest laugh riot of the year.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:09:56 PM CDT

    ATTN: Serious Black

    by rotten666

    I have not replied to a talkback in a few years, but comment is impossible to ignore. Ahem...You ignorant two-dollar cum guzzling gutter slut...Just what kind of vacous self-rightous moron can ascertain the quality of a movie by viewing teaser posters? As for your critique of Chabon; who the fuck are you, graham greene? Imagine, a 13 yrear old wank sitting in his basement has the balls to offhandedly dismiss a pulitzer prize winner. Its not that you dont like it, schmuck-boy, its that your write like your somekind of authority on the subject. Congragulations pinhead, your are the biggest asshole talkbacker of the week. Now I will return to my self-imposed exile....

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:35:04 PM CDT

    Here, here

    by karl_hungus

    Let's all give Royal Tanenbaum a round of applause for being so sophisticated and cultured to avoid seeing Spiderman and Titanic. YOU PRETENTIOUS ASS-you say this like it's some sort of accomplishment. How can you dismiss something you haven't seen? Take for instance Royal Tanenbaums-critics loved it, Botle Rocket was good but I wasn't sure I would like it. How did I solve my dilema? I watched it. Sure it confirmed my suspicions-it was totally pointless and devoid of humor, one of those movies made only to amuse critics with it's quirkiness and lack of convention but at least I gave it the benefit of the doubt.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:35:44 PM CDT

    These images look awesome! I can not wait for this movie to come

    by darthridiculous

  • Jul 31, 2003 4:38:01 PM CDT

    backs. Give it a rest already. Anyways, the Doc Ock image is fan

    by darthridiculous

  • Jul 31, 2003 4:43:43 PM CDT

    MATRIX RELOADED MADE MORE THAN SPIDERMAN AT THE FOREIGN BOX OFFI

    by thetruthman

    This just shows that Spiderman was an overrated piece of crap in America. The idea that people would see this lame movie multiple times just sickens me. The movie did not have a single good moment but just a bunch of horrible special effects and poorly directed action scenes.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 4:53:16 PM CDT

    thetruthman: "This just shows that Matrix Reloaded was an over r

    by darthridiculous

  • Jul 31, 2003 4:54:34 PM CDT

    effects and poorly directed action scenes." You see, there's a f

    by darthridiculous

  • Jul 31, 2003 5:08:27 PM CDT

    spiderman...i can't wait...wait i minute, i can, had enough of c

    by dodgyrenton

    is it just me or are there far too many comic book adaptions hitting the screens just now? lets face it, their taken from a source of media that are favoured by spotty geeks who clean dishes for a living and find it hard to communicate with anyone real unless it involves the words 'stan lee' ' marvel' or 'gee, batman would well have superman in a fight...but spiderman, thats a different story.'

    this follow up to spiderman is just going to be the same as the last one. which was piss poor. lets get back to making films for everyone instead of people cleaning the grills in mcdonalds

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  • Jul 31, 2003 5:14:23 PM CDT

    Spiderman was always a bit on the silly side

    by gypsytrobot

    Don't pelt me with tomatoes, but it's true. Green goblin? Rhino? Vulture guy? Come on. Not everything has to be superserious. Doc Ock was a silly lookin' feller, he'll look silly enough in a leather trench coat too. Just chill out folks!

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  • Jul 31, 2003 5:29:01 PM CDT

    rotten666: The True Talkback Asshole

    by serious black

    How can you call me childish when you

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  • Jul 31, 2003 6:16:16 PM CDT

    Organic Webshooters Revisited

    by magilla gorilla

    I still can't get over those darn organic webshooters. It's not the concept per se that bothers me, it's the filmmakers execution of that concept. A real spider's spinnerets are at the caudal end of its abdomen, right? So why does Peter Parker have his web-shooters on his wrists and not on his ass? I mean, he still uses his hands and feet to walk on walls. They didn't put those little sticky hairs on his knees and elbows, although that would look pretty funny. I know it's a little nit to pick, but if you're going with the premise that this guy is part Spider, part Man, you've got to have some consistency. Are we all so immature that we can't deal with a web-shooting backside? I think not. If they have to have wrist shooters (which I guess they do) he could bottle up his sticky spider-spunk and put it in his own homemade wrist-mounted web-shooters. And, there, everybody's happy.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 6:28:35 PM CDT

    Comic films

    by ribbons

    Well, there's certainly not much hope of salvaging any integrity from the genre whatsoever. In EW, the producer of the Snake Plissken franchise revealed that they're making the movie series into a comic book series in order to make it back into a movie series. "These days," she states matter-of-factly, "everything needs to be a comic before it can be a good action movie that audiences will love." Let's just let those sage words sink in for a second, shall we? Bravo, Hollywood. Bravo. You've bastardized another genre. [Commences golf clap].

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  • Jul 31, 2003 7:39:56 PM CDT

    Spider-Man 2: The Sequel to End All Sequels!

    by pencil-man

    My dick is hard, and Spider-Man 2 will rock. What more could a guy ask for?

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  • Jul 31, 2003 8:10:06 PM CDT

    Eat it, Davros!

    by hatethepolice

    I gotta back up Low3rthird on this one. Comicbook movies are generally just awful. There's a huge difference between lowbrow, or camp, and just plain bad. The first Spider-man film was just awful. Not suprising as this film is fro the same guy who brought us the lame Darkman franchise. I stopped caring about Marvel properties a long time ago.Take a pill, man.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 8:12:03 PM CDT

    FUCK Sony! If you fuck this one up so help me

    by gere's assgerbil

    Hate...pouring...out...every...pore. Must destroy...the...evil...that is SONY. You sad fuckers. You just couldn't leave well enough alone. Because that's what Spider-Man was, well enough. Not great despite the mega-box office, but decent. But now you're just going to fuck it all up. I hope I'm wrong, I really do. Spider-Man is a major part of my childhood and probably helped me become the sick twisted SOB I am today. But dammit, I swear I can smell fumes coming off this thing already, and it ain't smelling good.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 8:44:44 PM CDT

    It's CLAY.

    by vegas

    With a C. The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and CLAY. Maybe, in "trudging through 600 pages of mediocrity" from a Pulitzer Prize winner, you might have picked up on the correct spelling of one of the names from the fucking TITLE of the book. So, I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to dismiss your criticism of my second favorite book of all time (after Don DeLillo's UNDERWORLD, which I can't believe isn't being adapted yet) out of hand, much as anyone on this site would immediately dismiss a book review that mentioned Fredo Buggins or Jerry Podder.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 8:53:41 PM CDT

    Could you do a better job?????

    by doesntreallycare

    Some of you people really need to get out of your parent's basement and stop complaining. I personally like the Doc Ock poster, it gives him the look of a guy you wouldn't "want to meet in a dark alley." As for the Spidey poster, it looks like one of the many poses that he usually does while web-swinging in the comics. And here's a challenge for most of you out there: you complain about how the movie will blow or how the CGI looks cheesy or how Doc Ock should be short and fat and look like Elton John,I woul like to see you do a better job. I bet if you made Doc Ock look the way he does in the comic, he would look like shit. Why do you think they changed the look of the Green Goblin for the first movie, even if the helmet was a bit much. Get a life and actually enjoy something before you criticize it. It brings back the fun of watching movies just because they are movies and not b/c we need to find something wrong with them and complain about it. Jeez!

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:12:11 PM CDT

    Doc Ock is coolest character ever created

    by super cucaracha

    He can watch porn holding the remote control, jerk off, scratch his ass and drink a beer all the same time.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:39:50 PM CDT

    You know what's funny? I'll tell you what's funny.

    by bighottuboshit

    Spider-Man sucked fat uncut cock hard. Hard. It was embarrassing to watch two guys with no FACIAL EXPRESSIONS taunt each other, particularly given the fact that the Green Goblin looked like a Power Rangers casting victim. The CGI was atrocious, the Green Goblin character was pathetic, and the only people who liked that soddden gob of ratshit are closeted queers who get off on looking at Toby MacGuire's flaccid, hairless body. And the funny thing is, you geek jackasses are the ones who complain about how horrible Matrix:Reloaded or Resident Evil are---and yet 30 seconds of either of those two films are better than the entirety of Spider-Man! Oh, and as for the tower on which Octopus is standing, that could have been the World Trade Center, though the architectural style and perspective is totally wrong---but then again, our Muslim friends that Harry and AICN's quivering liberals love so much blew them to shit, along with 3,000 of our fellow American movie-goers, so we don't have 'em any more. You can all go back to thudding your worthless, useless, 2 inches of meat now.

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  • Jul 31, 2003 10:55:13 PM CDT

    Enough about the lab coat!!!!!

    by devil'sown

    Christ Almighty, some o' you freaks need to put down the Pez, go outside, and kiss a fucking GIRL! It hurts me to say this, it really does, but damn, your an embarrassment to comic fans! Shit like this enforces the misconception that just because somebody reads comics, they're socially retarded. Stop for a frickin' moment and pretend (y'know, like when ya play AD &D) that not everyone knows, or cares, that Otto Octavius is a scientist, and needs to be beat over the head with that fact! This is a motion picture , kiddies, and he'd damn well better have more dimension to him than that. If done properly, I've a feeling Doc Ock could be one of the most badass villains ever commited to the realm of film. Oh, and it was mentioned a little while back that this franchise, even though rife with possibilities like so many others, could run out of steam. Seeing as how most of Spidey's villains (and virtually all Marvel characters) have pseudo-scientific origins, I'm inclined to agree. Unless the creative folk involved can come up with more unorthodox twists like those "heretical" organic webshooters (I mean, c'mon, in the grand scheme of things, who cares?! It didn't really detract anything from the character, now did it? Oooo.), we'd better enjoy the ride while it lasts.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 12:16:13 AM CDT

    Resident Evil was better than Spider-Man??????

    by doesntreallycare

    Hey BigHotTubOShit, whatever it is that you are smoking I would love to have some of it. You actually thought Resident Evil was a good movie!!! That movie was a disgrace to video games, The Super Mario Bros. was even better than that. Spider-Man did have its Power Rangers fights but I still thought that it was a great movie. Tobey Maguire was the perfect actor to play Spider-Man. This is why they say that drugs are bad. The "Hot Chick" is up for an Oscar too.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 12:27:19 AM CDT

    WB should sue! Doc Ock's tentacle design is a blatant rip off o

    by felatiohornblowr

    Even so, the Doctor Octopus poster looks cool. I hope this movie is good. I'm a little worried about the Alfred Molina casting. Seems they've cast this one the same way as the first, using unlikely but recognizable faces. Some people think this is great that lesser known but talented actors are being given a chance to do a summer blockbuster. To me, it seems like the studio is just trying to shave a few bucks off production costs.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 12:51:20 AM CDT

    Doc Ock's stupid dumbass look

    by smkayos

    Doc Ock?? Doc Suck. Leave it to fucken Sony to fuck it up again..Sure the movie will make money..but then again...
    Spiderman could be pitted against a homeless man with a paper bag on his a head and a bottle of Thunderbird in his right hand...people would still watch it.

    Where are his Goggles..his lab coat..his girth...his distinct hair...

    Green Goblin looked like a rejected villain from Power Rangers....and whoever designed the new Doc Ock outfit must have watched "The Matrix" at least one hundred times in a row while masterbating into a godammed toilet tissue all the way through...you know what?? I just got it...

    Give every damn comic character a trench coat...or black leather....Give Spidey a trench coat, give J.Jonah Jameson..a trenchcoat...give Aunt May a Trench coat...oh wait..I mean give her a black leather outfit...yeah that would be sooo cool..and hip.

    Dumb Greedy Sony fucks..
    and all the bastards that like this stupid Doc Ock look.

    Call me a loser if you don't like what you read...
    Just watch that Spider-man 2 bullshit...the first movie sucked..and is aging really bad.

    So join the bandwagon you braindead morons and say out loud..."Wow!! Doc Ock looks sooooo cool!!"

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  • Aug 01, 2003 1:52:24 AM CDT

    No wonder people think superhero films are jokes

    by ribbons

    Because their creators have to make concessions over people who are afraid of having their childhoods raped. Guess what, fuckos? Raimi is a fan of Spider-Man. If he thought that Acheson did a shite job of reimagining Dr. Octopus he would have vetoed the change. As it is, are you insane? Do you actually think that a green and orange suit would work? Seriously, how many lunatics do you think dress up in costumes and weave their way through New York City? There's no reason for him to wear a costume except for the fact that it would make him look nifty. You can still see his fuckin' face! To don some garish leotard, bizzare eyewear and sadistic bowl cut he really WOULD have to be Elton John. Why are you so adamant about some ripped-up white lab coat? Because he's a "mad scientist"? Forget the fact that the doctors probably threw the damn thing in the garbage, and if he was in the right state of mind to put a new one on (if the opportunity even arose), he'd probably take it off. As for the tentacles...they don't look like something you'd genuinely find in a lab, I'll give you that, but most tentacles don't have lasers and cameras (or personalities), either. It's a little loopy; that doesn't mean that his entire existence has to be a joke.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 2:42:48 AM CDT

    Sam Raimi has now become a zombie

    by chien_sale

    The fact is, the guy phoned in the Spiderman movie: he didn`t really directed it. He followed the script like a drone without adding much of a vision. The guy hasn`t really directed a movie, hasn`t used his talent since what- "Army of Darkness" or Darkman? In fact Darkman was a super-hero concept done "the Sam Raimi" way. That`s why it was brilliant: the crazyness, the humour, the wacky shots. That`s why I`m saying The guy that directed Spiderman WAS NOT SAM RAIMI. What a waste of my time this movie was! No creativity.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 3:48:16 AM CDT

    Matrix producers directors be sued!

    by mehrabi

    matrix fans should be ashamed! How dare you even compare Spidey with that boring matrix franchise? Spider-man has 40 years of rich history and you compare him with something that is known to have ripped off every ganre in movie history? shame on you assholes! By the way, I am Spidey's biggest buff in Iran. I am proud to tell you that everybody is still talking about the movie here . My old man who hates anything comicbook-related has watched it 13 times! eat your freaking hearts out!

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  • Aug 01, 2003 4:16:41 AM CDT

    DatoMan413

    by earthworm

    Nothing personal, but yours was the funniest post I ever saw. You say not all comic book fans like you are geeks, then tell us you're a web developer, a graphic designer, you're taking your MCSE and you build computers 'on the side.' You haven't mentioned if you wear a Dr Who t shirt though. Brilliant stuff. Keep it up.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 7:15:23 AM CDT

    confusing successful engineer candidate with geek .. Shame the t

    by jasondkeldar

    You crack wise about somoene who actually HAS accomplished something with his life, then try to justify it with the new pat criticism of geekdom(to wit, "Doctor Who T-shirt")? That is just pitifully sad. I always thought that the fringe people who came here to rag on geeks at least knew the difference, but here it is for you guys in plain English. Bill Gates is a geek because he made himself one, not because he had some abilities in Math, Science, or computers. Paul Allen and the "other Steve from Apple" were nerds, yes, but geeks?? nope, they took baths, didn't over minutiae but rather worked hard to get things right. Nerds, yes, but by the classic definitions, Tim Burton is a geek and Sam Raimi is a nerd. Subtle distinctions for the mouth-breathers to try and distinguish, but who really cares what the security guard at the mall who was "Most Likely to Succeed" has to think about who is and ain't a geek? Oh yeah, and Doc Ock looking like some mod-era rebel scientist is about as logical as insiting Mry Jane should have that Mary Tyler Moor flip from the 60's-70's. The Times they are a-changin' boys. Get over it.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 7:56:11 AM CDT

    It was a joke, idiot.

    by earthworm

    I know well the subtle distinctions between Geeks and Nerds, I just disagree with yours. Geeks includes basically everyone who post on this site. Generally fanboys, gamers, people who live a large portion of their life through the internet. Nerds are people who take it further, dress up as characters, cyber flirt (see LOTR TB) or refer to 'studs' as 'cleats.'

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  • Aug 01, 2003 10:08:31 AM CDT

    I think smkayos wants a trenchcoat. Hey! I read and collect comi

    by darthridiculous

  • Aug 01, 2003 10:14:41 AM CDT

    Difference between geeks and nerds

    by gypsytrobot

    Geeks have that special sparkle of weirdness about them. Nerds are the boring pseduoconformists who studied really hard in college, wearing their argyle sweater vests and cords. They were never very weird, just socially awkward. Geeks are into weird shit, have an imagination, aren't afraid to use it. Nerds watch Star Trek in and never have dreams, asleep or wide-awake.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 1:08:04 PM CDT

    Geeks and Nerds

    by mikesal222

    Sorry, but earthworm was right. That post was hillarious. Claiming he isn't a typical comic book geek and then stating that he likes to build computers as a hobby. There's nothing wrong with that, though. We need to be able to laugh at ourselves from time to time. A lot of people on this site take themselves way too seriously.
    As for the distinction between geeks and nerds -- geeks are people who are into Star Trek and Tolkien. Nerds are people who are into astrophysics, robotics and computer programming. For me it's more of a fiction vs. non-fiction distinction.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 2:59:10 PM CDT

    Didn't we go thru this before??

    by fear.of.grey

    I mean seriously folks, lets get over your squabbles with the fact that Doc Ock wears a godamn trench coat. Why is it that ever comic book movie that comes out, we go thru this? Wasn't X-men supposted to suck because wolverine was too tall? And Spider-man was going to bomb becuase of the organic webshooters? And, oh yeah, CGI Hulk looked like Shrek, right!? Lets please reserve judgement till after july 2004, please?

    www.fearofgrey.com

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  • Aug 01, 2003 3:50:07 PM CDT

    Guys calm down

    by uberspectre

    This movie will most likely be the best movie next summer... Everyone who seems to be going crazy saying this movie will "suck hard cock"... Don't mistake your personal life with a movie. It is just a movie that is made to entertain... Also you guys who are bitching about the coat and hair cut... Most of you are hypocrites because you all seemingly love the X-men movies, well um look at their costumes, they have changed a bit and you guys don't care, whatever I think a spidey 3 should be made with venom or Vulture played by Ben Kingsley, that would kick ass

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  • Aug 01, 2003 4:56:16 PM CDT

    Does it Even Matter!!!!

    by doesntreallycare

    You guys are complaining about how the bad guy look, get over it!!! Nothing you people say will ever make Raimi or the guy or designed the Ock character change the look just b/c a bunch of people sitting behind computers says it looks bad. As I've said before, Doc Ock looks like somebody who has taken a lot of shit and is ready to give it back. I would be scared shitless if I were to meet a guy that looked exactly like that on the street. If I met the comic version I would probably point and laugh at the guy. Remember people, some changes are made for the better, such as the costumes in the X-Men movies, and the Green Goblin outfit (with the exception of both Magneto's and Goblin's helmets). Just think about how ridiculous the X-Men movies would have been if the suits from the cartoons and comics were used. Attack of the Circus People!!!!!

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  • Aug 01, 2003 5:10:55 PM CDT

    spidey

    by satansteve

    for the record, i think that guys bitching about doc ocks look are idiots. i mean, they bitch and moan for years that there hasnt been a spidey movie and when one comes along, they bash the shit out of it. you talk about how YOU would have done a better job, but the fact of the matter is, if the goblin's face moved and his costume looked exactly like it did in the comics, he would have looked like a cross between a gremlin and robin hood. and as i said before, doc ock would look like elton john. you guys need to grow up, stop bitching and go paint your warhammer models or something. at least spider-man was no batman and robin. but saying that the guys who hated spider-man probably thought batman and robin was a faithful adaptation and a good movie. dumbasses.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 7:35:05 PM CDT

    Ooooh yeah, Spider-Man is coming.

    by felatiohornblowr

    It's Friday night and I'm posting on a Talkback on AICN. There's a beach not a mile from my front door and I'm sitting in front of the computer with a textbook on lap. I guess this makes me a geek, a nerd, AND a procrastinator. And I've got a crappy user ID...but apart from that, I'm cool. Spider-Man 2 comes out next year, so what is there to worry about? To all the naysayers, don't fight it. This is going to be a force bigger than any of us. Either give in to the madness or shut up and take cover.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 8:35:02 PM CDT

    True dat.

    by devil'sown

    Guess I'm a little naive, but until I discovered this goddamned site, I never knew there were so many bitter little trolls out there willing to argue over how one genre film is superior to another. What possible sick little thrills do you freaks derive from talking pure shite about The Matrix, a movie that has made more money than you will ever see? Exactly how are your tastes more discerning than the millions who saw it, enjoyed it, and recognized it as an adventurous vision, you shriveled little toads? Huh?!? Sorry. Had to get that off my chest. The cold, hard facts are Spider-Man was not a perfect movie. It didn't have to be. You cannot deny it's success- it did what it was supposed to do, it told a story with style and energy, and holy hell, it managed to hold our attention pretty much for it's whole running time. Those of you too busy whining about the casting, story direction, performances, fx, etc. missed a pretty good little movie, with real big fights lifted right of the comic book page, and, for those of you who really gave a damn, an old-fashioned story about a sweet guy who can't catch a break. But maybe you're right... most people just can't get into that sort of thing.

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  • its a hell of alot better than the Mighty Morphin Green Goblin that was in the first one. I love that shot, it has a sense of sadness and menace to it all rolled up into one. very cool shit and very true to the spirit of the comic, if not an exact literal translation.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 10:11:38 PM CDT

    Guess what?

    by name-less

    First of all, the trench coat isn't black, it's dark green. So it's a least a little closer to Doc Ock's green spandex suit from the comics. And the building he's standing on is not a building in real life. It's the clock tower, most likely Ock's base of operations.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 10:20:00 PM CDT

    Might as well wade into the catch phrase game sometime

    by 2muchpoo4u

    I'm going to shoot white stuff from my organic web-shooter backside onto Rachiel Leigh Cook's face, BROTHER.

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  • Aug 01, 2003 11:14:27 PM CDT

    if you want Ock to be comic-book faithful...

    by half vader

    ...then the two best guys for the job would have been Roy Orbison and animation genius Bob Clampett (with the rug). Then you would have been happy. Fuckwits. Film and comics ARE different mediums and though they share many strengths, there are more differences. Tell you what. All you anal types goo and draw comics for a few years, then go do storyboards for a few. Come back when you've got a clue. You guys would've blasted seven bells out of Kubrick's adaptation of The Shining, I'll bet. Calm down.

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  • Aug 02, 2003 12:55:47 AM CDT

    OH SURE, SPIDER-MAN CAN WEAR HIS OUTFIT, MEANWHILE MY FUCKIN X-

    by meleractor

    I don't give shit what anyone says I write and Illustrate comics (for fun, Hire me D.C.!) And I'm a digital Imaging technician in the "real world" and I fucking hate what they did to the X-men for the films, FUCKING HATED IT! Rogue was a fucking Bad guy first you ASSCLOWNS, an infinitely better backstory than that shitty one they came up with, now she's fucking dull. The outfits suck diarrhea through a straw, plain, unimaginative and completely DEVOID OF CHARACTER! Fucking boring! GODDAMN eunuchs are what they are now. As an Action film the movies were entertaining, it's almost fucking impossible for them not be given the source. But as an X-MEN film it fucking REEKED MONKEY POO!!! Mark my words, someday someones going to do the fucking x-men the right way, with their VIBRANT CIRCUS OUTFITS, BAD GUY TURN GOODGUY ROGUE WITH SUPERSTRENGTH AND FLIGHT,
    and a SHORT hairy WOLVERINE. And it's going to FUCKING RULE the WORLD!!!

    Fuck Bryan Singer and his bastardized phoenix saga!

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  • Aug 02, 2003 1:09:59 AM CDT

    AS FOR SPIDER-MAN....

    by meleractor

    As for spidey, hell this goes for all comic book movies. As long as they have these fuckers chopped up and rationed off to the greedy corps the movies are never going to be as good as they can be. I know the learning curve in hollywood is painfully slow compared to the comic writers but I 'll say it anyway ONE OF THE KEY INGREDIENTS TO THE HEROES IN THE COMICS IS THAT THEIR NOT ALONE STUNTMONKEYS!!!!!!!!!!!
    It's the MARVEL and D.C. UNIVERSE!!! And in this universe SUPERHEROES ARE NO FUCKING SECRET!
    In truth spider-man was never really an interesting book to me because, well he's kinda bland, plus as superheroes go he's kinda low on the power meter, I like the power houses..SILVER SURFER anyone? BUT, the times I did find spider-man interesting was when he had to interact with OTHER MARVEL HEROES, It was these types of storylines where you went oh shit, this is going to be good, he was the underdog then and he had to be at the top of his game. THEN he was interesting. But back to the universe, yeah, IN the MARVEL Universe I read, superheroes were NO BIG THING, which was cool, because it forced the writers to focus on more important things like CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT and STORY ARCS......Oh why do I bother.NARF!!

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  • Aug 02, 2003 1:40:42 PM CDT

    I feel your pain.

    by devil'sown

    Hurry up, Hollywood! Make some spot on comic book movies before I'm too damn old to care!! Hey, Marvel's finally got enough characters made into films- they could probably do a wicked awesome Marvel Team-Up flick now! The X-Men, although lucrative, have pretty much been a class by themselves. Spidey has broader based appeal cuz, as you mentioned, he's an underdog, and time and again it's been proven that, man, people dig that. It has resonance- we wanna see a little guy with the odds against him succeed. We can easily put ourselves in that frame of mind. Those who can't relate go see the James Bond series.

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  • Aug 02, 2003 2:26:29 PM CDT

    Vegas

    by serious black

    Touche. The guy changed his name from Sam Klayman to Sam Clay. Guess in my mind I thought Klay sounded cooler. (For those who haven't read the book, the names "Klayman" and "Clay" go along with a whole Golem motif that runs throughout the story.) Oh, well. Not the first time I've looked like a dumbass. Won't be the last, either.

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  • Aug 02, 2003 4:34:37 PM CDT

    Meleractor, get over it

    by doesntreallycare

    Meleractor, let me ask you something, have you seen any recent X-Men comics, THATS WHERE THEY GOT THE COSTUMES FOR THE MOVIES FROM. Everyone in the comics now wears the same outfit. Singer was trying to keep up to date with the comics from 1999. As for the entire movie story, who cares if Rogue wasn't a bad guy first or if the movie should have been with the original five. And Wolverine was too tall, WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK. Would you want Danny DeVito to play Wolverine considering he's the only actor that's really under 5 foot 5 besides Frankie Muniz. Man get yourself laid.

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  • Aug 02, 2003 6:29:24 PM CDT

    Actually...

    by ribbons

    ...the comics made modifications in order to lure in audiences from the movie, not the other way around. It doesn't really matter; I think that having good guys and bad guys with hellzapoppin' colors in their uniforms was a pretty "illustrated serial" idea, anyway. It defies common sense and, in my opinion, is more lazy in its way than the leather-clad X-clan you see in the movies, which at least strives for (relative) realism. As they say, the first guess is usually the correct one, and Stan Lee had the right idea when he outfitted the original team in the same uniforms. Although I think the movie character of Rogue is interesting just because of how sad her plight is, I can understand where you're coming from with your desire to see Rogue as a convert from the extremist side. It wasn't likely to happen, however. Even though the X-Movies are semi-dialogic, they're more a cautionary tale than anything else. You'll probably only see good guys go bad, or maybe a bad guy who sacrifices himself here and there, because it raises the stakes. As for wanting to see a short, Robin Williams-level hairy Wolverine, to borrow a line from Moriarty, "I hear Paxil is mellow." Hugh Jackman is a hairy guy in his own right, and he's a brilliant Wolverine. I don't know why you'd have problems with him, at least.

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  • Aug 02, 2003 9:44:41 PM CDT

    The good, the bad, and the oooogly.

    by devil'sown

    Makin' them thar comic book moovees is tricky biznass. With the exceptions of Superman and Spider-Man (First Rule: Thou shalt not fuck with the icon's costume), it's always going to be tough make a superhero look plausible on the big screen, Alex Ross paintings and milk commercials aside. Since I likes ya'all let me confide something- as much as I worship Wolverine, I hated, hated that canary-yellow comics getup. Crazy motherfucker, or not, this guy relied on stealth, and blazing tights with a mask that resricts your periferal vision just don't make sense. Yeah, I know, he has hypersenses, and you should suspend disbelief, and what about guys like Batman?! Still, it never fit his personality, and Marvel's always prided itself on having, at the very least, a nodding acquaintance with reality. The X-Men was THE comic for me for many years, and although I knew they were fictional characters I loved Cyclops, Storm, Nightcrawler, Wolverine and Colossus like family. Despite all this, deep down, I always felt if they were to appear in a film, changes would have to be made. As cool as they are, people would have died laughing and groaning if we got an picture with Cyke running around in his blah spandex, and Storm with her ass all hangin' out. I'd almost swear the film succeeded because it was understated! If you ignore a few bad lines, it was played pretty staight, and having Patick Stewart and Sir Ian McKellen in the cast gave it so much cllaaassss. And getting past superficial things, we can all as movie fans understand the dreaded controversy of casting. After all the choices that were bandied about for these characters for waht seemed like a lifetime, they gave us the gods. It was exciting, funny and weirdly compelling. Trademark X-Men. And they cast an unknown Ausralian who could act, and look good doing it. It was so damn strange, sitting there in the theater with my girlfriend, wondering what it was like for her and others whose main knowledge of the mutants was from the animated series. Turns out a lot of people, not just fans, dug it. The costumes sometimes are an acceptable sacrifice. Apparently, it worked so well Marvel let Grant Morrison do away with the damn things entirely. Sure, I have fond memories of them, when we were kids we thought they were cool. But I understand the reasoning. In order to survive, some projects just require mainstream exposure. Which makes the rest of us feel like punk fans do about Green Day, or Blink-182. We liked this shit when it wasn't "cool". Finally, the X-men are a team, and look like it; people united by a common goal, not just a collection of egos who think they should band together for shits and giggles.

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  • Aug 03, 2003 10:27:17 PM CDT

    To those who insist on dumping on CGI.....

    by vader42

    I would like to ask all of those people who are so critical of CGI one question.... if you are so convinced of your own superiority and could do it better, WHY AREN'T YOU?!?!?! You people (you know who you are), should sit down and watch the DVD featurette "Making a Better Mummy" to see all that ILM goes through to make their digital creations. I think it would not be an understatement to say that "Hulk" was MUCH more complex. It goes without saying the complexity of creating a model that moves like a human would under circumstances outside of understood physics (I can say that, because I am a physicist) such as Sprder-man. And yet you armchair critics seem to think that you could do better than the artists at ILM (among others), who have forgotton more about computer graphics than most of us will ever know. I don't seem to remember any such outbursts concerning the stop-motion photography, and that (plus bluescreen matting) looked extremely "fake". Still, none of us complained about how it appeared, and took it at face value. The point is, if you think that you can do it better, I better see your name on the end credits of a major movie real soon. Politically correct translation: Put Up or Shut Up! 'Nuff said.

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  • Aug 04, 2003 2:29:48 AM CDT

    MELERACTORS QUEST

    by meleractor

    Well I guess it all comes down to my psyche. For starters

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  • Aug 04, 2003 3:10:03 AM CDT

    Doesn'treallycare

    by meleractor

    Not that you really care but I figured I'd put it out there. For All intents and purposes On the outside I guess you can say I'm a normal looking person, some say I'm a "pretty boy" on that I heartily disagree. I'm a bit of a health buff, I work out, practice a little jeet kune do, weight train. In high school I was pushing over 300lbs now I'm at a modest 220lbs. I don't really have trouble "getting laid" as you put it, but I admit most chicks put me off(materialistic). You see I'm an "outsider" because I "won't" conform to the template society has laid before me, I don't think I ever could, and do not want to.
    I'm a creator and am attracted to entities in similar situations. You can see why some of the recent developments may ruffle my feathers.

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  • Aug 04, 2003 6:08:05 PM CDT

    meleractor

    by satansteve

    im sorry...but ur reading into things a little too much, yeah comics are meant to be an escpae but dude, theres a point where most people draw the line. superman and spiderman didnt change their costumes for the movies because they didnt NEED to. for the kind of heroes they are, to be looked up to by kids, dressing spiderman in all black like in the black costume era would have seemed done. their costumes are timeless. superman and spiderman are both icons and the mainstream public assosciate them with their specific costumes. batman changed his because people always saw batman as the "holy hole in a wall, batman!" "thats a window, robin" camp batman and this was a much needed change. can u honestly, HONESTLY tell me that if u saw wolverine, in full, bright yellow SPANDEX, tighter than a dancer's costume fighting a sabertooth dressed in a shit-brown leotard on the big screen, u wudnt think it was even a LITTLE ridiculous? it would be okay if it was like a "gosh, professor x, maybe mutants and humans really CAN live together in harmony, golly" kind of cheesy bullshit ass then the costumes would be acceptable. but what bryan singer was doing was trying to make it seem as if the xmen movies were actually POSSIBLE. by setting them in the real world so we can have a kind of connection with them. change is good. seeing wolverine in bright yellow, looking like a goddam mardi gras dancer would be utterly dumb, and no matter how many animal snarls, berserker rages he goes on and no matter how many people he called 'bub'. you seem like the kind of scary fan who would hold up a line at a autograph signing at a comic-con with a creator and talk about how even though wolverine lost his adamantium, it still looked like he had it in an issue before he got it back and try to reason that maybe it was a future wolverine or some dumbass crap like that. chill out, have a coffee and watch the animated series if thats what u want to see, cuz u aint never...and the rock means NEVER gonna see wolverine in yellow spandex on the big screen. unless they put joel shumacher behind the camera, then u can have all the brightly coloured, nippled costumes u want.

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  • Aug 04, 2003 6:32:30 PM CDT

    Satan Steve..

    by meleractor

    First, Never say never, Second, Joel Cumcatcher never did "authentic Costumes" so never mention him again. And your still not getting the context in which these characters dwell, try to understand they DO NO GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THEIR OUTFITS, I''m sorry, but your just a measly fucking human, a step down on the on the evolutionary ladder to them. I know it's hard to imagine,but then that's the whole point, imagination, some have it, some don't. Which is why these movies can never stay true as long as there trying to get "everybody." EVERYBODY cannot understand why they wouldn't be tied down by your stigmatas. SOME do. Personally I like the brown and tan outfit, but it doesn't fucking matter, You keep saying he's trying to make it feasible in the REAL WORLD, what the fuck have been saying all along. This isn't the REAL FUCKING WORLD, It's the MARVEL FUCKING UNIVERSE! If you don't know what that means, or don't like what that entails, then by all means, don't go there. And last, If someone were to put on a yellow and blue outfit and then proceed to kick the shit out you EVERYDAY for WEEK, I assure you that by the end of that week, You will find NOTHING, AND I MEAN NOTHING, AMUSING ABOUT A YELLOW AND BLUE OUTFIT. Count on it. But the whole point of Imagination is that some already know this without having to experience it, while others can only learn the hard painful way.

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  • Aug 05, 2003 7:26:34 AM CDT

    calm the fuck down

    by satansteve

    jeez what the hell is your problem? i mean seriously, lighten up. i've been reading xmen since i was 4 (im now 18) and hell i think wolverines classic yellow outfit is cool, but it simply would NOT work in a live action movie. X-Men are NOT superheroes, they're mutants, they've said it themselves in the comics that they're not superheroes and always wondered why they dressed like them. yeah its the 'marvel fucking universe' but a lot of people dont get the marvel universe and these movies were a way to ease people in. do you think anybody would take the film seriously if they saw a bunch of guys in bright spandez knocking the shit out of each other? power rangers, hello? and you know what, even if a guy in blue and yellow spandex DID beat the crap out of me, i'd still keep the gay jokes coming. Wolverines meant to be a badass motherfucker and he's dressing like a las vegas dancer in the movies, i wouldnt be pleased, simply for the fact it isn't credible. why do you think the chances of seeing sentinels in the movies is slim? because MARVEL, yes you read that right, MARVEL wants to give the movies a sense of reality, yeah cyclops has still got his laser eyes but seeing a big fuckin robot stomping the shit out of xmen whilst cool, would make audiences fart on it. take your head out of the comics and come into the real world where most people dont start kicking up a fuss about something that really doesnt mean a whole lot. you telling me the first time wolverine got his claws out in the movie, you didnt get even a little kick out of it?

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  • Aug 05, 2003 2:51:17 PM CDT

    Your stuck in one gear

    by meleractor

    It is clear you do not know what I mean buy the Marvel Universe, which is funny especially since you claim to have been a reader. Sentinels, Wacky outfits none of these things would be out of the ordinary in that world. Live action, claymation, or whatever..You can't seem to grasp that so theres no point in going on with it. As for them not being superheroes, WTF? I don't give a shit what they said in the "recent" books. their heroes, and their super. That's a fuckin superheroe whether they like it or not. And last, you keep thinking about what the audience will find plausible, and the whole fuckin problem I've been saying all along is trying to cater to these cats narrow view of the universe. But yeah, fine, lets take these superpowered beings and make them "more human" lets have them care about looking appealing and plausible to the human populace, well get a nice big opening weekend and we'll also get a nice moral message out of it to. "What did this film teach us today boys and girls?" "We learned that if your born with two heads and a tail you better not wear anything that accentuates your characteristics or personality as a result thereof." Well what should this poor unfortunate freak of nature do?" " Well if it's gonna be accepted in this society it better get it's ass to Lord & Taylors right quick, conform or be destroyed, and for Gods sake put a fashionable cloak over that extra head and tuck in that tail!
    YEP, a lesson it would seem society has taught you very well, and one I am proud I never bothered to learn.

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  • Aug 05, 2003 3:11:47 PM CDT

    You guys are fuckin' HILARIOUS

    by jaxslave

    Really amazing how much shit is generated from a coupla POSTERS, for chrissakes. More entertaining than watching retards mate, I tell ya.

    And I think the concept of organic web shooters makes perfect sense! I've always dug Spiderman, but it was like, "With all of his other 'natural' spider powers, how come he has to invent and build his own damn webbing?"

    Yeah.

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  • Aug 05, 2003 5:06:30 PM CDT

    Posters? What Posters?

    by meleractor

    Holy shit, I'm in the wrong talkback. I don't even like Spider-man that much! NARF!

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  • Aug 05, 2003 6:10:35 PM CDT

    meleractor

    by satansteve

    u breast-fed till u were a teenager didnt u? that explains why ur such an 'outsider' as u put it.

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  • Aug 05, 2003 6:42:08 PM CDT

    Ha!

    by meleractor

    Quite the opposite, My mother NEVER breast fed me, however she did breast feed my little brother, WTF? I've been neglected! And alas the world must pay!

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  • Aug 05, 2003 11:29:10 PM CDT

    WOW

    by doesntreallycare

    You know, I think we are all looking into these movies way too deep, and its funny how both satansteve and the guy that was never breast fed got into an X-Men argument on a forum discussing the Spider-Man posters. Not once did I ever see anything wrong with either versions of the X-Men costumes, comic or movie. Besides, the X-Men have had many looks to begin with, and unless I'm color blind, I think the original X-Men's outfits were black (or a really dark blue). So maybe Singer was making a really far back reference into the past. And maybe he was just evolving the costumes a step further. I remember when Cyclops wore a hood, and when Wolverine also had the red and tan suit. And remember, the only male actor that could fit the "short" role of Wolverine is Danny DeVito. And we need to stop looking so deep into these books and movies. Let's watch them and enjoy them for what they are. And that is a movie that a lot of money was put into to hire actors like Halle Barry, Hugh Jackman, Patrick Stewart and Sir Ian McKellan and to make a great story out of both movies. And I pose one question to all of you: Before there was an X-Men movie and you all were wishing there was one, didn't you all just automatically put Patrick Stewart into the role of Professor X? I know I'm not the only one.

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  • And thus, I am done.

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  • Aug 12, 2003 6:29:09 PM CDT

    Hmmm

    by bruticus

    Maleractor, I think you're right that mutants wouldn't give a fuck what we think they dress like. Think about this tho, if that is the case. Why would they go through the trouble of having someone tailor make something so attrocious as Wolverines costume? I think Wolverine in all his mutant glory still retains SOME pride.

    Now Rogue i'd love to se her in original costume. But I still think a young Shania Twain woulda been perfect for ROgue. ANd why the fuck doesn't she call everyone SUGA?

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