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A Right Bastard of a Report on Comic-Con 2003
NO! That headline has nothing to do with Quint, at least I don't think it does... Father Geek here, I went to my 1st San Diego Comic Con back in 1971 a few months before Harry was born, I was a dealer in Golden Age Comics, vintage (1914-1959) movie posters, Animation Cels, and Fantasy & Science Fiction art. Harry's mom and I had a great time, made a fistful of dollars, some good friends (4-E Ackerman, Sheldon Dorf, Phil Sueling, Irving Bigman, and that kid that made the Mile High Find Chuck Rat-ass-ki) and set up at every one thru the rest of that decade. That means Harry attended everyone from age 8 months till he was 9 years old... The 80's, I had other stuff (some good, some bad) going on in my life, so I missed every one of them. Started going again just as a "collector" in the 90's, couldn't make it this time, but wanted to go just the same. Oh well, there's always some Bastard that will keep me up-to-date by rubbing my nose in what I missed...
Right Bastard here with my third annual Comic-Con review (Quint can't see everything!).
Oh well, there's always some Bastard that will keep me up-to-date by rubbing my nose in what I missed...
Right Bastard here with my third annual Comic-Con review (Quint can't see everything!).
There is so much, it's hard to know where to begin. I really had a lot of problems with the Con this year. Last year was one of the best cons ever, and this year is one of the worst. I won't hang the Con's dirty laundry in this summery. I just will say that I've been going to the Con for ten years; and they've been holding the Con at least twice as long as that; by now you would think that the security and the organizers would have gotten their shit together, and I'll leave it at that.
Wednesday was preview night. Those of us with four day passes get early access to the Convention floor. It's a great time day to get your bearings, and to meet people from out of town. It is difficult to express how huge the Con is. In three hours I crossed the entire hall and back, and saw maybe 1/3 of all there was to see if I was lucky. To put it in perspective, even New Yorkers are impressed by this convention...and New Yorkers are not impressed by anything Californian. They will even admit that it is bigger than their Con.
The Thursday schedule was very light. Most of the true fans and fanboys show up on that day to get in on early deals before prices go up on Friday and Saturday. The guests that fans and fanboys, and not many "civilians", drool over are usually talking on that day. Dave McKean gave a talk going over a retrospective of his art over the last 15-20 years. Neil Gaiman gave a brief talk and showed a documentary that he filmed. He has finally worked out that he will be able to write and direct the "Death: High Cost of Living" movie. He thought he should practice directing a film before dedicating a year of his life to directing Death movie; mainly so see if he actually would like directing. He created a wonderful documentary on English artist John Bolton. There are many surprises in this wonderful little short film, and I'd rather not spoil it for anyone by saying anything about it. Needless to say, Neil quite enjoyed directing and can't wait to get started on Death. His rational for sitting in the chair is "If someone is going to fuck up my creation, I'd rather it be me."
That night I went to a Comic Book Relief Defense Fund party at a local pub. Apparently Neil Gaiman and Frank Miller, among others, were there...but I didn't see them. Still, it was a worthy cause (fighting censorship in comics), and the whisky list was impressive.
Friday. This is the day that the civilians arrive and a new annoying breed of fanboy shows up. [Yearly Rant Start] I've seen the proliferation of these people over the past several years, and now they've reached a heightened level. This particular species is the "fair-weather-fanboy". In sports, the fair-weather-fans are the ones who overnight cover their house, car, and clothes with the local team logo when the team starts winning and might actually make it to the playoffs. The fair-weather-fanboys are worse than fanboys. Fanboys are obsessive people who like to hold on to minutia like treasure so they can tell others, "Oh! You just found out that Chewie is going to be in Ep.III? Ha! I knew that months ago!". Slightly annoying, but harmless. The Fair-weather-fanboys are people who heard Rosie O'Donnell or Oprah tell them that X-Men was a good movie, so they must latch on to it blindly; and not really care about the history or quality of the product. People who are doing it because it's friendly. As annoying as fanboys are, at least they're passionate. The fair-weather-fanboys who go to the Con because they might be in the same room as Halle Berry (with 5000 other people) severely bring the vibe down. [Yearly Rant Stop]
So, Friday at the Con. First up for me was the 25th year celebration of "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes". It's neat that the film was made in San Diego, and many of the people involved showed up. They gearing up for an anniversary release of the DVD through Rhino (who else?). Next, I got in position for a Rob Zombie "House of 1000 Corpses" panel. Sid Haig, Bill Moseley (Chop Top!!!), Sheri Moon, and Chris Hardwick were all on hand. Zombie was his usual "to the point" self. The DVD for Corpses will be out soon, with lots of extras and interactive menus. The panel discussed the current (non) state of horror; and whenever it got a little slow, they would start ripping into Mtv boy Hardwick, who was a good sport. There is a plan for an eventual Uncut release of the movie, but they are holding off on that while they work on the current sequel. There should be no distribution problems this time around, and they all seem really excited about the new movie.
Next up we stopped in on Vertigo Comic's 10 year anniversary celebration, followed by Bill Plympton showing a rough cut of his new film. It looks fantastic, and as creative and messed up as we are used to seeing from Plympton. Next, I drug my friend to the Episode III/Lucasfilm panel. He really didn't want to go, but I told him that he had to see Steve Sansweet, Lucasfilm's head of fan relations, for himself. I needed verification in my belief that Sansweet is the biggest suckass in the universe. Sansweet began by telling us about a "dark character" who has carried himself through many adventures. You got it. Finally, the Indiana Jones DVDs will be released in November. The print looks beautiful, but I didn't have the guts to ask if they replaced the guns with flashlights, edited out blood, put in a CG Jabba, or any other extremely lame idea to come from the minds of Spielberg/Lucas lately. I really do hate the title "Indiana Jones and The Raiders of the Lost Arc", though. Next Sansweet told us that EpIII will be the darkest of all six films, showed a really lame real of Anthony Daniels stumbling through sets where everything is covered with blue cloth, and admitted that wookies will be in the next movie. At that point my friend admitted that, indeed, Samsweet is the biggest suckass in the universe, and we took off to see another panel.
We saw a bit of Jill Thompson's Scary Godmother. I like her work with Neil Gaiman's characters, but this is definitely a kids show. Also, is uses the type of CG that I don't really have an aesthetic for. The kind that flows too much, and than has characters shaking at an epileptic rate. It's too bad, because the animation is being done by the guy who worked on Beast Wars and Reboot, which both had a much better look to the animation.
Then came the panel all of my friends were waiting for. Lisa Henson, Jim Henson's daughter, announced that though "The Dark Crystal" and "Labyrinth" were considered initial failures, they realize that both of those have an enormous cult following. Given this, she is proud to announce the first artistic/edgier children's film from Henson productions since 1986, Neil Gaiman and Dave McKean's MirrorMask!!!! They just finished principle photography the week before the Con, and now Dave will spend the next year and a half animating it. Neil wrote the film, and Dave is directing it. They showed a few stills from the film, and it looks simply magical. The story is a "through the looking glass" sort, much like labyrinth, and I am really anticipating it. I hope people will really rally around this film.
Next, I stumbled into an intriguing panel on Starship Troopers 2. Paul M. Sammon, Ed Neumier, and Brenda Strong gave an intriguing panel. Ed discussed the reason for the changes in the first film and why their message was very different from what Heinlein was trying to say in the 1950's. A very interesting discussion about how war and militarism breeds fascism ensued, and how a movie made during the first gulf war is even more relevant during our current altercation in Iraq. The sequel is going to be more of a horror movie along the lines of Alien (a trapped group that has to get out of a messy situation), compared to the politically/socially conscious first film.
The evening ended with Mark Hamill giving a Sneak Peek at Comic Book: The Movie, which he filmed at the Con last year. The movie will be released direct to to DVD in November, and I can't wait to see it. It's a movie that would only interest Comic Book fans, but it a work of passion for Mark, so I want to support it. He was very conscious on to make it a "Trekkies" or "Best in Show" style Mockumentary. He wanted to do his best to make the fans look good in this film. I can respect that. It might actually be refreshing to so the fans given a little respect. I hope he pulled it off. The story is about a history teacher (Hamill) who doesn't want to see his favorite golden age character co-opted by films and corporatized for mass audiences. A lot of us can relate.
Saturday. I won't go into the Hell that it was trying to get into the
Halle Berry panel. Needless to say, I managed to get in the front row of a room that holds 4500, and had 5000+ (mosh pit experience comes in useful at times like this). Even more annoying that the fair-weather-fanboys, were the obnoxious members of the press corps, who were stomping every old lady and child in their way to get a picture of Halle. If I were security and they didn't back off when I told them to, I would have confiscated their cameras and kick them out (like they do to people without the little press badges). Being about 15 feet from miss Berry, I have to agree with what the magazines say. She IS the most beautiful woman on the planet. Her new movie is Gothica: a woman who works at an institution for criminally insane wakes up as a patient, and needs to find out why. Nothing new, but it looks nice and creepy. But I know what you really want to know. She was very tepid on the thought of another X-Men film. She may as well have said that she's not going to do another one unless she gets a major story arc, and Storm gets to actually fly. (My guess: there will be a new actress playing Storm in the next movie. Halle is great, but personally there are no interesting story arcs with Storm that I think would merit a movie. We want to see the Sentinels, Phoenix, etc. Not the friggin' Morlocks.)
Next Angelina Jolie came out to promote Tomb Raider II. The questions were too stupid, and the press were so obnoxious that I gave up my prime seat and went to a less poplar panel. For those who want to know; Tomb Raider II has things that go boom, and lots of karate and guns and jumping of high things. They put the Futurama panel in a room half the size that it could have been, and it was closed off to the public by the time I got there. The news is, Cartoon network will be picking it up for hopefully new episodes. That being packed, I went to the Spotlight on Neil Gaiman. Not much that non-fans would want to hear, aside from Good Omens is on hold. Terry Gilliam had foreign investment pending on $15 million from the US. He couldn't get the 15 mil, so the foreign investors backed out. He is currently working on a Brother's Grim film, that I am really looking forward to.
I managed to sneak into the Kevin Smith panel about 1/2 way into it. He did the usual shtick about "fucking his wife", and ripped on stupid fanboy questions, which is always a good time. It ended on a down because he talked about Mewes battle with drugs, and you could tell it tore him up to watch his friend killing himself. Mewes is doing better this time compared to previous stints in rehab, and hopefully he'll make it.
Next up was the New Line panel. Robert Englund and many others from the Freddy vs. Jason world came out to pimp that film. There wasn't really much to say. You know it's going to be fun. Following that the LOTR people started appearing. First the WETA folks came out and gave a sword making and costuming demonstration, accompanied by Billy "Pippin" Boyd. Andy Serkis then appeared to talk about his Gollumization, followed by Sean Austin and Elija Wood talking about Sean's new short film that will be on the Two Towers DVD (though, I hope everyone will wait until November, and just buy the extended version of the DVD). Tight lipped as they are, there was not much information about ROTK, but they did show a 3 minute preview of the 12 minute trailer. I had a break after that, and stumbled across the actors who did the voices of Pinky and The Brain doing a live reading of an old episode. God, I love the Con.
Next up was the Adult Swim panel. New episodes of Sealab, Aquateen Hunger Force, Home Movies, The Brak Show, Harvy Birdman, and Space Ghost were previewed. They also announced that Cartoon Network will be getting FLCL. Are they insane? That has to be the best/weirdest anime ever to come out of Japan!
Saturday night involved the usual getting drunk and then heckling at the masquerade. Those people have a lot of guts to shove themselves into those costumes and get up on stage for a rowdy crowd who they know will jeer them. They get a lot of props for putting up with bastards such as ourselves. Next was the packed Bloodfire Comics party, each year taking hedonism and decadence to a new level.
Sunday we saw Eliza Dushku's new show Tru Calling. It's basically a rip off of "Run, Lola, Run". She's is the second hottest woman in the universe, but I don't think that will be enough to carry a show on. Then, there was a hysterical conversation between Neil Gaiman and Dave McKean, the two most ubiquitous characters at this year's Con. I didn't care. I'm a fan.
That's the short version.
Sorry about the spelling/grammar. I'm very tired.
I haven't slept in 4 days.
Good night.
-=Right Bastard.
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Jul 21, 2003 6:35:46 PM CDT
Sounds a hell of a lot better than E3...freakin amazing...all th
by aceattorney
...thanks for your impressions...what about PICS?
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Thirsty
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Jul 21, 2003 7:07:14 PM CDT
Dumb bastard is more like it. Instead of watching the Spidey 2/
by zod_is_back
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Jul 21, 2003 7:42:34 PM CDT
What would you raher do? See Angelina Jolie in person or go see
by t-mack 1.01
Frankly, I would be in awe to stand near in celebrity. Except Sansweet. Fuck Lucasfilm.
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When you write up a report of something, try doing your research. Otherwise you just look like a retard. It wasn't Billy "Pippin" Boyd that was there, it was Dominic "Merry" Monaghan. It isn't Elija Wood, it's ElijaH and Sean's last name is ASTIN, not Austin. Jesus. Is it too much to ask that things are at least accurate?
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Jul 21, 2003 8:12:35 PM CDT
If you get to go to Comic con, at least check out the worthwhile
by the walrus
No one gives a shit about any of this, next time try finding something interesting or don't bother.
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Jul 21, 2003 8:12:35 PM CDT
If you get to go to Comic con, at least check out the worthwhile
by the walrus
No one gives a shit about any of this, next time try finding something interesting or don't bother.
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I saw a picture of it in Entertainment Weekly and it just looks like the kind of intensely stylized fantasy film you never see anymore.
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As I am sure Harry won't post anything new about Comic-Con, I will keep this to the talkbacks. As I've posted tibdits in other talkbacks over the oast few days, What else do you want to know? I attended the Van Helsing, Hellboy, Underworld, ROTK, Spiderman 2, etc panel and everything looks awesome. The actual Con floor was HUGE, must be at least 4 football fields long. Almost every panel was full, the crowds were huge, many celebs answering stupid fan questions, near-riots over inane security and organization problems (SCREEN THE QUESTIONS, SQUEEZE PEOPLE INTO ROOMS INSTEAD OF TURNING THEM AWAY, GIVE OUT CONSISTENT INFORMATION, etc) and everyone walked away buzzed for next year. Do you want to know anything specifically?
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...Are the assholes who bitch about them. Stupid fat fucking geeks. Yeah, that's really the way to save the comic book industry: mock the people who are checking it out now because they saw X2 and might be interested in something they never gave much thought to before. Sorry the rest of the world couldn't devote 33 years of virginity to their hobby. Dick.
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When is FETT getting back from Comic-Con? I want FETT's report dammit! Harry is too lazy to go to all these things now? He is supposed to be our Geek God! If not, I want a report from someone I can trust though, like FETT! Where are all the regulars? I want to hear how FETT met Angelina and Halle and crapped himself right in front of them and how he got a picture of the look on Halle's face when she smelt it! Anyway, it's starting to piss me off actually that Hollywood has taken over comicon. Why don't they get their own convention?! It's just like Anime, Pokemon and Buffy have moved in on the small local conventions, I can't find half the cool stuff there I used to. Shit. All the comic book stuff is second. The only thing Hollywood should show off at the convention are superhero movies and toons, and smaller, non anime animated films and shows. Why do they bother to call it Comic-Con anymore? They shouldn't let this other stuff take over. I want to go back to the 70's where it was just a bunch of freaky hippie rejects who would play D&D all night long and was the only place in the world where you could stay out all night,and not do any drugs, and not get laid! Geek Heaven! Now that sounded like fun. Now it's just a giant PR thing. The raping of geek culture continues.
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I heard that the ROTK trailer was going to be kick ass - but is it seriously going to be released as a 12 minute trailer??? Is this only on the DVD or actually going to be shown as a preview?
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nuff said
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Jul 21, 2003 10:17:18 PM CDT
Wait... he forgot to mention the smell!! note to fanboys - use
by russman
Why is it that a lot of people there don't use deodorant or toothpaste or mints or laundry detergent? Thank god I'm tall and could stand on my toes to grab some fresh air. As fun as the convention Red Zone, Right Guard, speed stick could do some great promotion by handing out trial size deodorant sticks. Damn! And what was with the poor line controls too. People mobed up, pushing and shoving to get a free hat? However I gotta commend the small staff that organizes this for arranging an overall fun event.
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Holy Snit...New Futurama, that is such GOOD news. Hell yes...How has no one mentioned that...
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I am a fair weather fanboy. I am sorry that I can't devote 24/7 to sucking on the cock of Kevin Smith and all of the other geek gods. It seems like you have the time to do that, don't you? You want new people to come into the shops, but you want them to be just like you. Sounds like a form of prejudice to me. I hope you had fun in San Diego, by the way. I bet you felt really important.
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Hang on a bit. Did you say something about Futurama being picked up for "hopefully new episodes"? A bit of clarification please!
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Last year was one of the best cons i've been to. This year was one of the worst. The line saturday stretched from the convention center to the back of the wharf and wrapped around the park. I've yet to hear a legit explanation of why that would happen. Then my friend couldn't get jolie's autograph because she apparently wasn't signing as they had advertised she would be. That'd all be fine if it hadn't taken us two and a half hours to get in. One big plus as always was the great kung fu extravaganza., Anybody who's a gordon liau fan would have loved the dedication they did to him, even though i wish they had shown more clips, wasn't enough time. Much more organization is needed.
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You senseless fucks. Leave the guy alone. If you wanna read a Spiderman report, go find a Spiderman page. As for the spelling mistakes, don't be so damn pedantic.
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I've never heard anyone drop Neil Gaiman's name so much ever...not that I've ever heard Neil Gaiman's name at all...
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Jul 22, 2003 10:51:00 AM CDT
I don't see how anything with live Pinky and the Brain can be ba
by heleno
But maybe that's just me. And the only thing worse than a fanboy is an elitist fanboy. Honestly, people, if these comics are as great as you say, then why the hell wouldn't you want people to get into them? If the X men films have gotten a few people interested in the comics, and I know from experience that it has and it gets them into other comics as well, then why the hell would you complain? Share your toys children!
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I'm a nonconformist. So I fear this means I'll have to walk around prominently displaying my Fiend Folio to retain my authentic geek street creds. BTW thanks to my cat for puking all over the githyanki cover.
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If Triumph The Insult Comic Dog came to this convention and tore your fanboy asses to bits to show that all of you have no life
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and the best part is that it turns out this jerkwad fuckstick is all bent out of shape about security and fairweather fanboys because he couldn't get a good look at Halle fucking Berry!? You kidding me? I'd say you're the fairweather fan my friend.....M
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Correction: Dominic Monahan was at the LOTR presentation. Billy Boyd was not at the convention.
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If you learn how to write! Do some proofreading, take some classes, anything! I thought www.aintitcoolnews.com was an authority in the entertainment field! Even People magazine proofreads their horrible articles!
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I don't remember where I came across this quote, but "FLCL is sex." The show is a very good cross between Anime and the surrealism movement in art, but it's all, one way or another, about sex, a 13 (i think) year old boy, his father,two older women, Vespa scooters, and giant robots coming out of people's heads. It's a show that demands to be watched with a dirty frame of mind. The FLCL drinking game would involve a shot of Jager every time that phallic or vaginal symbolism appears onscreen. And one bottle of Jager wouldn't cut it. I'm astonished that Cartoon Network is running this short (6 episodes total) and fairly perverse (in a great way) series. The English dub (by the guy to blame for the friggin' SHAOLIN SOCCER dub, I believe) is pretty good, though I would rather they had used younger voice actors - when you hear a kid who's got the exact same voice as Spike from COWBOY BEBOP, only higher pitched, it's a little distracting. It's much better in Japanese. But that's just bitching and moaning - the English dub is nothing to complain about, it could have been as bad as the FUNimation Lupin dubbing (shudder). I'll be watching to see how much they fuck with this horny little show (besides editing the curse words, of course), if at all. And yes, I called it "horny". Because that is exactly what it is.
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In the four episodes of this that I have seen, there isn't any real nudity - well, there is but it's the teasing COWBOY BEBOP/Faye Valentine kind of nudity. Figured it's worth mentioning, given the prior emphasis on sex and what-all. Oh yeah, the last volume of FLCL came out today, and freakin' nobody seems to have gotten it in retail here, not even the usual suspects like Best Buy and Suncoast. God damn it.
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...what the hell happened on Saturday at the Con? I've been a regular attendee at this event since 1987 and I have NEVER, EVER seen the San Diego Comic-Con this obnoxiously crowded. Normally, I get off the freeway on Front Street/Civic Center about 9:00 a.m., immediately scoot into a parking space and pay my five or ten bucks; then it's a quick walk over to the Convention Center where I get to the end of the line and, in less than 40 minutes, I'm duly badged and perusing the main floor. Not this time, however. Saturday was a nightmare that I'm still having a hard time digesting. Right off the freeway there was a traffic jam on Front Street that forced me to turn off onto a side avenue where I then proceeded to spend ONE HOUR looking for parking. I finally found a lot that charged me $20 for a day's parking! I thought the worst was over then; I was wrong. The line to get into the Con (as one of our fellow posters has just mentioned)snaked back to the other side of the harbor and back around the park. My nephew and I spent THREE HOURS waiting to get inside the Convention Center. This may not seem unusual at first glance, but in 16 years of attendance at this event it has never taken me longer than half an hour to 40 minutes to gain entry. Given the length of the line I was actually afraid we might be turned away at the door for lack of room! So please, guys, if there's anyone out there "in the know," please tell me what the hell happened on Saturday that made this usually wonderful event such a friggin' nightmare! Also: am I blind or is this the second year that Marvel has failed to have its booth at the Con? Was I looking right at it and just didn't see it? Now that they're an "Entertainment Company," are they too good to be seen in the company of our fellow geeks? I'd just like to know. THANKS, GUYS!!
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This was my first time going to the Comic-Con. Even though I'm not into comics as much as I was when I was a kid (it came down to eating or buying comics, eating won) I still found it a rewarding experience for the most part.
I usually go to the Northern California equivelent Wondercon and the same stuff that bugs me about both cons is the disorginization. You stand in line for a panel, get in, then they cut it short cause the last panel ran too long. That really bugged me. And what also bugged me was even though they were giving away autographs the lines for them were way too long, it's was nearly impossible to get an autograph of anyone meaningful (unless you're into Battlestar Galactica in which case that guy would've happily woken up to sign something.) cause all the autograph hounds were there in force.
Overall the San Diego con for me was great with the exception of the aforementioned gripes. I'm going next year. But I do have a question: If this was a bad con, what's a good one like? -
This report was incredibly HORRIBLE! I can't believe that this was all you had at that point to report to the fans...or as you like to call everyone not as fluent as yourself..."fanboy". Most of us don't have such a limited capacity that we only like a certain genre and F&%* all the rest. This is supposed to be an "entertainment site"?? Sounds like a very biased "genre site" to me. You're reporting lacks substance and the reviews are so biased it's laughable. You can probably bet that anything AICN hates, will end up being a good movie.
"Ain't it Cool?"...no...it ain't! I'll stick to my other movie information sites, that at least will give you unbiased information and reviews, and not name-call...hence "fanboys"... which is basically saying that anyone who doesn't agree with you guys, or spend every second watching old cult films and slasher flicks is an idiot. Reviewers and columnists are supposed to be ecclectic, and have some depth and reasonings to their opinions...but, I guess this site doesn't possess that particular quality. This will probably be "banned" as your 'rules' state...of course, it never stops you guys from "hate speeches" or "being jerkwad losers" does it? Sounds like a double standard to me! And, who designed this horrible site anyway?
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