i think im first too...bah! anyways if this is true i hope this bitch gets out for the public to see in some way be it download or release on special theatres or dvd...one can only hope

Spread that baby around, lets check it out...!!!!

Man I wish I was going to Comic COn to see the screening of it but hopefully it will be released soon.

We gotta get our fix, no matter how much we despise WB's misuse of their DC properties, we gotta get our fix.

How funny would it be that the best representation of batman comes from a short film shot by an independent filmmaker without a real budget.

but maybe its just not a good still.

I am no where near San Diego, and not planning to be anytime soon.

The way it sounds like this is straight out of the batman comic book #614. In it the joker looks like he killed a childhood friend of Bruce wayne and Bats snaps and decides to end it all there. Great issue featuring catwomen and commisioner gordon trying to stop bats. If they pull it off this is going to be one fucking great short movie.Wish i was going to san diego

Batman, Joker, rain storm, major Ssurprises and all in a short film. Could this be an adapation of "The Killing Joke"?

This sounds like the issue of Batman from a couple months ago, where he thinks the Joker killed his best friend from childhood...

I am confused? Where are the images? Who is directing it? Alex Ross is a greedy bastard and would say anything for press...Kevin Smith made a J Lo and Ben movie..not amazing sources really.

A while back, a year or so, i used to review for AIC. the last review i submitted was of a short film called Chocolate Kiss which i saw at its premier. Mori's reason for not putting up my piece was that "the site doesn't cover short films that no ones ever going to see". By the way, if the folks behind that particular film should read this, im sorry. my 5th step encourages me to make ameneds, and since u wont answer my calls, well, god bless the net

It was a fan film, screened today (Friday) around noon. Here is the blurb from the program schedule-- 12:15

Yeah, I think that's what it is. It will be used to promote the eventual movie of course, but what else could it be?

Batman calls OnStar(TM), which sends a tow truck to give the Batmobile a jumpstart.

Check out this page with superbly homosexual pictures of Clark Bartram, the actor/bodybuilder who dons Batman's suit in this short film by director/SFX guy Sandy Collora: http://www.amerfit.com/clark.htm Yeah.

Yeah is is probably pretty cool, but it is only 8 minutes. It's a lot easier to make an interstig 8 minute film than it is to make a 90 minute one. So what if it "proves" that you don't need a big name actor to do a cool Batman...everyone already knew this already. I wouldn't mind watching this as it sounds fun, but it is nothing momentous or ground breaking.

I worked as part of the crew making some commericals. I guess you could screen it as a short action movie -- but it is really just a series of commericals

Sheesh, and you guys rip on Harry in these talkbacks. It all goes back to that whole premise__at least when he gets it wrong it is for the right reasons, not for furthering his self-image. He is a 400 pound frizzy-red-haired guy who cannot grow a mustache. He has no illusions of a self-image because you skinny little pukes with no background in movies(read the words I did not say films) won;t get over the fact he is heavy and prolly has his own private forest of car deodrorizer trees in his place-of-residence. If you guys want to impress someone, do something, and quit trying to qualify for a J&SB cross-country flight tail-whuppin.

I dont know if that superherohype image is legit, but that looks like CRAP, I could produce a better looking batman for fifty bucks.

The only way of a supreme batman movie happening is if Clint Eastwood produced and acted on an adaptation of Frank Millers "the dark knight returns"

I've seen this film, and for all of those who think Batman is fat or the costume looks like shit you're seriously wrong. First off Batman is played by a fitness model, so there goes the fat theory. Secondly the suit is taken from Alex Ross' designs almost to a tee (expect for changing his belt to black). The movie is fantastic, and will be appreciated by any true Batman fan, not just a bunch of whiney assholes that claim they could do better. If you could do better than why don't you detach your lazy ass from your precious computer and show us what you got. For the rest of you that are looking forward to it, you won't be dissapointed, Sandy Collora should take over as Director of the new Bat-flick!

Want to get a betting pool going to see how long it takes WB's lawyers to bitchslap these guys?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66979

See Superherohype.com for details... They think they might get a quicktime later on...

It was made by a crew of industry insiders with a very good budget. It's not some college project or cheap fan thing. Go to batmanhype.com and check out the stories about it.

It sounds a lot like 614, and if it is a short movie based on that issue, its gonna be pretty freaking great. The issue was called "Punch Line" and it has to be one of the 5 best Batman stories I've ever read. I suggest you try to get a hold of it.

*narf*

I am a bit suspicious of this story. Barring this short showing up on the 'net, and me actually seeing it, I doubt that it is what is claimed. The photo on the linked web site looks like a still of Alex Ross' costume model Photoshoped into a digital background. Until a file of the short is up for view, I am going to be dubious about this story.

I am a HUGE Batman fan, ... my favorite fictional character since early childhood ... and comic book names like Denny O'Neil, Neal Adams, Dick Giordano, Steve Englehart, Marshall Rogers cemented Batman as my favorite character. With talented teams like these working on the books, ... how EASY it was to visualize the blockbuster Batman movies long before they would (yet) arrive. THIS little short film could be a dream come true for me. Somehow, I've GOT to see it. After all, it got such approval from Alex Ross for cryin' out loud!

Ok, here's the skinny, NOT the "fat" For some reason, the picture ran on superherohype is compressed and looks squashed down... He looks much more "squatty" than he really is. This film is REAL, and it was made for all you guys... The fans.

Oh god, please tell me its the PREDATOR.........

eh...... the pics look ok i guess. Batman goes crazy on Joker......again. Then lets him get away .

WB should release this before a big upcoming movie. I'd go a buttload of times just to see this, and I want to see this about as much as I wanted that foxy Korean chick I sat next to in English senior year of high school. Which is to say, a whole hell of a lot.

But this sounds better than Matrix reloaded. I hope it has scenes of bestial sodomy or Harry will have a hissy fit.

I still say a better caucasian actor could've been cast for Wilson Fisk that would have satisfied diehard fans of the not-so-blind Hells Kitchen avenger. Reddish blonde hair could've worked too.

I don't care if this film is a short, I WANT TO SEE THIS NOW!!! ______Please tell me somebody finally got it right when it comes to Batman....

Well, when this film will be ready for downloading, so that we , the non-us residents can watch it?

I'll probably get in the shit for posting an advert of sorts here...but seeing as it is directly linked to my post about batman....here is the link to the unofficial Joe Johnston fansite. Please sign guestbook and post on message boards! http://uk.geocities.com/johnstonfans/

http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/attachment.php?s=33f488b4602517e8652cdb504dead806&postid=508868

Seriously- This place seems to be overrun with smarmy little gits who think they're something special and like to flame everything. It wasn't like that in the clunky old days, and the old-timer regulars here don't usually act that way. If the studios use this place as a gauge to measure fan reactions, they're looking at the wrong crowd now- A lot of the new guys here are real prats and just insist on hating everything unless it's The Matrix or anime.

I saw a copy of the short last week and here are my thoughts. I thought it was the best version of a Batman costume I've seen yet. As opposed to the movie version, this costume gives Batman the flexability he should have always had. And the guy in the costume is NOT fat. He has the physique that Batman should have. The director, I understand, works for Stan Winston studios, which explains the high quality of all the costumes. It was made as a showcase for his directing skills and it seems he'd make a good second-unit director. But, since it's primarily posing and fight scenes, I have no idea if the guy has any skills as a narrative storyteller. For fans though, it's pure geek-gasm by virtue of the three "enemies" he has to fight.

It's nice to see that Corey Haim's been working out. And Corey Feldman has made a great Joker! Great job, Coreys! This is a better idea than License to Drive 2! Now where's Heather Graham as Catwoman? Okay, I'm fucking around, but seriously, it could be good. But I'm guessing this is fan-made, not some WB-driven vehicle. Which is sad. I think the only thing Jon Peter's ever done right was Kim Basinger. ---------------------------------http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66979

..the rubber suit looks WAY better in the movies. This looks like some slow-witted adult fanboy's idea of a real life Bats. The Joker looks kinda cool though.

The Joker looks...well,Jokery.The way he should look-wirey.Not some thick old actor with bad smile and cheek make-up. I like the look of this.I have zero faith that this will ever be the BATMAN that WB shits out later.Poor,poor Batman.

I like how those pics look. I hope they release the film so the fans can get a chance to see it.

The Joker looks like a strung out heroin addict, excellent make-up work, but i'm not really digging it. Little too much like Gollum for my tastes. I kind of like the Batman costume though, and the atmosphere looks great.

Holy shit! That remotely butchers the classic Joker, even Jack Nicholson's Joker. That even butchers Mark Hamill's Joker! Is there a way you can see this without going to that geek-a-rama comic-con?

Even though i'm not really liking the Joker's look I still REALLY want to see this movie.

I always thought that David Bowie would be a good Joker. He would play it very smooth and creepy.

This is why Superman works alone, Brother!

Now that is how batman should have looked, none of the pretty boys that they got for the films, first attempt and geezer has already chosen a better Batman and Joker.

Someone had to say it.Hopefully they'll put this film online for those of us who can't go to San Diego.

so what exactly is the PLOT of this thing? Does it pretend to be a feature?

This looks like a drawing more than anything else, an archetype of how these characters should look. They should get real actors even if they don`t look exactly like the characters. Anyway...this was a waste of time.

I'll be disappointed if that's the surprise. No word on the voices. Hell, they should get The Animated Batman actors to dub it over. I want it. I want it in QuickTime. I WANT IT NOW!

I guess that means Wayne Knight has to be Superman.

That was over the top and disturbing camp, not dark brooding or intensely thrilling. I have it in my movie collection, of course, but that ain't what batman should be. And the fight scenes can't have a single element of 'Power Rangers' in them, like spiderman or even (gasp) the previous Batman films we've seen. And I like the second shot of Joker's nose profile much better than the direct shot of his muddy makeup. Hopefully that's the real Joker image that stands out.

Screw that jackass that said this is a fanboy suit and that the rubber looked better. Moron.

He's supposed to look like that. Get Mark Hamill and Nicholson out of your heads. He's always been a skinny as hell heroined out looking madman. This is perfect.

But is it me or does Batman look like Millars's Take on him in Dark knight Returns?

The actor playing Batman is cut like a Greek statue, so don't give us this Batman looks fat, crap. The suit is a quick pull-on one; thus the pajama look. This is dead accurate.

I think this Batsuit is perfect. It gives it a more reality based feel to it, and not some over-the-top quality like the WB Batman movies. And it harks back to Batman's origins, it's classic Batman. It's like Miller's Batman. And that dude is not fat. Hey I'm not gay but I'm able to notice the guy works out. That Joker dude is good, reminds me of the comic book Joker, really skinny with bulging eyes and maniacal grin. And it takes place in an alley, a quintessential setting for Batman,...instead of in a museum playing hockey to get back a stolen diamond from Ahnuld. I'm happy this little film was made. Looks like someone in the industry cares. I think we live in a good age for comic book films. All the little kids that grew up watching the Superfriends and Spiderman cartoons are grown up now and they're taking over the film industry. Yay :-)

Well, gee, what can I say? This looks very interesting. Batman looks like a cross between both Frank Miller and Alex Ross's works on the Dark Knight. I feel that the Bat-suit could use a little more work on it though. Joker, on the other hand... Fuck, man! Someone has been channeling the Clown Prince of Crime's spirit, because he looks DAMN accurate! Except the eyes... There's something about his eyes that looks almost... uh... Gollum-ish. I know that sounds stuipd, but look at J-man, and then at that ex-Hobbit. Frelling freaky, man. Other than the suit, I have no qualms or anything to bitch about for "Year One." It just looks fucking awesome. I'm still kinda pissed that they took "Birds of Prey" off the air, though. That was the one show which took the Joker/Batgirl relationship seriously. But don't get me started on Mia Sara.... --Cliff Roswell

On SSH it said that you would have to be there in order to see it and thats it. mabye the Indipendiant film channel will show it or some one will post it on the news groups or Imesh.

This looks amazing.

....and i'm loving the Miller/Ross style Batman. The makers of this short have set the bar very high with the character design, i just hope the performances (and everything else) can reach this level.

This guy could even rival my fan-boy choice of Tim Roth as Joker.... Of course, because this was made, they will never use similar costuming/visual effects in a feature length film. They'd never stoop so low as to "imitate" a "lesser" indie film maker....WB sucks.....

You know, if this shit is for real...that's pretty great stuff. I am never a huge fan of fan films but hey, who did this did it right. I think it's sad someone will make a 8 minute movie better then the real ones. Burton's film is a triumph of prodcution design with a terrible script and an over the top performance from an actor coasting on his persona. The other ones I won't even mention. Nolan is a great choice but this frightening crap sounds fucking stupid. Somebody needs to burn it to the ground and start over. I hope the person on guard at the WB slavishly reading talkbacks tell the higher ups how fucking idiotic they are. Some guy made a goddamn fan film better then 4 huge movies they shit out. Good luck Nolan. Don't make another Insomnia. It sucked. Don't let Goyer write it. You should. Blade 2 showed who the real genius of the first Blade was. I hope the makers of this film (if it is that) get it on the net soon. That's all.

Anyone interested about this film, go to this link - http://pub76.ezboard.com/fplbbmemberssitefrm17.showMessage?topicID=1034.topic . The man responsible for the film has been posting information about the film for the last three months... hope this helps!

Has anyone else noticed the oversized jacket on the Joker?? You can clearly see an "R" in between what could possibly be an "A" and a "K." Arkham Asylum, perhaps?? Just a thought. I'm dying to see this.

Is that the fabled "Perfect Man" underneath the cape and cowel? Seriously, that actor is pure muscle. As another poster said, he looks like a Greek/Roman statute. What a brilliant look this film has. This must be leaked onto the internet immediately! Fanboys to work!

SORRY ABOUT THE USE OF ALL CAPS, BUT I WANT TO GET SOMEONE'S ATTENTION. THIS LOOKS INTERESTING, A LOT BETTER THAN THE LAST 2 BIG BUDGET BATMAN FILMS, AND I WANT TO SEE IT. I LIVE IN MICHIGAN, BUT THE AREA I LIVE IN IS NO MAJOR CITY. WE USUALLY NEVER GET TO SEE ANYTHING COOL AROUND HERE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE AVERAGE FAN CAN SEE THIS FILM. WILL IT BE RELEASED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR RENTALS? WILL IT BE IN THEATERS ATTACHED TO ANOTHER MOVIE? DO I HAVE TO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO SOMEONE IN THE INDUSTRY JUST TO SEE THIS MOVIE? CAN ANYONE OUT THERE TELL US WHO ARE IN THE DARK MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT? ANYONE AT ALL?

Why havent they put this on the internet?..this is why ''''''''I just minutes ago saw this film (twice) and the accompaning "Making Of" on DVD. Its a 2 disc very limited edition set'''''''''''' Didnt know this site was for advertising/marketing hype...this is shit.

DOES ANYBODY READ THIS STUFF??? YOU CAN TELL JUST BY LOOKING AT IT THAT IT ISN'T SOME KIND OF UNDERGROUND SHORTFILM! WAKE UP STUPIDS. Nuff' said.

Why is everyone getting so excited.

This IS Batman.

this IS exactley how batman is supposed to be portrayed. Any of you who are complaining about the joker is a complete idiot. The Joker you see on the old Tv show and the movies is nothing and I mean absolutley NOTHING like he is and always has been in the comics,which I remind you is the source material for everything.So if anything they have always screwed up the Joker and this is them actually getting him right.The animated series is the closest ever to portray him right but of course they were aimed for kids so it couldnt get too violent. Lord praise Mark Hamill and praise this guy!!!!!!

I saw this 7 minute feature at the sandiego comic con today. I expected a little too much i guess. When predator and Alien came out, the entire audience was cracking up at how stupid it was. I couldn't believe it, the creator of this shit should just quit. 1 out of 10. Compltet crap.

Great. I'm very happy for Father Geek for being able to see this movie. I'm very happy for Moriarty for being in a position that will probably allow him access to this movie in a reasonable amount of time. And I'm happy to hear that something like this exists, that something like this could be and has been made and that there are others out there who will be able to see it. What this article does not address, what this article doesn't ask about, is how the hell the rest of us will ever have a chance to see it. You know, those of us with jobs and school and other obligations that prevent us from going to San Diego tonight or traveling all the way to Pedazo Chunk just to rent a movie (that may be checked out). How about asking the question, "Will this be offered for sale or download online?" I do remember that there was a Spider-man/Green Goblin fan movie that was made and offered for sale on DVD and for download on a website. I don't know how the works out legally, but it's been done. I can't imagine Warner Brothers appreciating somebody making money off of their property, but if a downloadable version was offered for free, I doubt there'd be trouble. Maybe the filmmakers don't want that. Maybe they don't want to do that for several good reasons. Maybe this is just an eight minute long resum

well god bless the net, i found the telephone number for the video store in austin and spoke with the owner and he says that yes the copy he has of the film is a gift from the director ... he said it was awesome.

The man clearly works out a helluva lot and has the physique of a body builder. Wait, why am I talking about this guy's muscles? Anyway this film sounds very cool and I would love to see it. Batman's suit is definitely inspired by the paintings of Alex Ross, but anyone who knows Ross' work could tell you that. Joker is pretty much right on from what I can see except for the eyebrows. So it seems very visually acurate to certain comic book representaions of the characters, which is good. However, I have long felt that in the next Batman movie from Warner Bros. he should wear a suit that is a combination of the traditional comic spandex-looking kind of material and the body armor sort of uniform from the previous movies(the Burton movies not the homoerotic Schumacher crap). I feel that in a movie that tries to make the character more believable and realistic to audiences, Batman must have protective equipment implemented with the suit. I know that in some of the comics Batman's mask actually covers a thin but strong helmet and kevlar is behind his chest emblem, but I think it should be more apparent in the movies if Batman is to be more grounded in the real world. It's nice to see that a film maker can show the fans and Warner Bros. how Batman should be done and that it doesn't take an enormous budget to faithfully reacreate the Dark Knight and his world. I'm optimistic that Chris Nolan and David Goyer are perfect for the daunting task of restoring the Batman franchise to it's former glory and then some. I'm just trying to say I badly want to see this film. Uh, the fan film that is.

It's getting put out by Superherohype.com They're getting the quicktime file directing from the director.

**snuggles Joker** I wish I wasn't in a stupid place like Florida. SOMEone get this SOMEwhere that I can see it!

....chill and get a life....

The film's name is "Batman: Dead End". The director is Sandy Collora. I seriously hope Warners doesn't pull the stupid gig they did with Harry Potter and sue the guy like they did owners of HP domain names on the net when the movie was being develpoed. Instead, they should buy it from the guy (and kiss him on both cheeks for making something that actually deserves the name Batman) and show it in theaters, where it belongs. Hopefully, it will go on the internet (wink wink nudge nudge Harry, etc) or be picked up in some other way so the general public can see it. Or, at least it could go around the convention circuit, those go around mosy states.

He looks like The Joker, we're excited because this is looking to be the most faithful live action adaptation ever put to film, so stuff your naysaying remarks. Some people...some nerve.

Yes we have heard the fat guy in spandex jokes over and over..But since Frank Millers Dark Knight Returns and And The Dark Knight Strikes back ( Witch really was not a batman story but more really a JLA story with batman in it )He made fat batman into one kick ass bad bitch..I mean really..I would like to see more of that..Big guys are more likely overwieght and can be mean and scary as fuck..This short looks great..I wonder if it will ever see the light of day..I would like to see it very much..

Let me just say (for the record) that that Batman is not fat. In some of those pics you can see the material stretched over his abs! And, as a gay man, I know great abs when I see them! -Dap

Go to---- http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66979&perpage=25&pagenumber=2 ----to see a picture of the guy from a muscle magazine. He's ripped! And Pencil dude, this is NOT A PEPSI AD so stop it already.

Haven't you been paying attention? Go to the Batman boards at superherohype.com and READ all about it. They have the real story (since they know the guy) and it's NOT A FUCKING PEPSI AD so shut up already!

And it looks like they dug up Groucho Marx for the Joker. They had a budget for this? Get outta town. Damn good for a laugh though.

That's what my 6 year old and 3 year laughingly said when they saw the pictures of Batman from this short film. While the "atmosphere" in this film seems right, the Batman depicted could almost pass for a WWE character launching himself from a "wrestling" ring's corner post. Why can't Batman's "uniform" be based on a combination of a US professional football player uniform with the utility of a military uniform? Would anyone with the supposed intelligence of Bruce Wayne venture into the urban night to fight crime, bullets, knives, and bad weather wearing tights? (Even more, not wear an athletic cup to protect his crouch?!) Moreover, when is the last time there was a genuine "champion" triathlete, martial artist or rock climber who also had a body builder's physique? A body builder's physique has never equaled the flexibility and strength required for dynamic athletic ability. If the creator/director is trying to encourage WB to create a Batman film with a dark, harsh and brutal atmosphere the comic books have, then more power to him. Just don't expect a Batman wearing tights not to be laughed at.

just wondering . . ..

...but Batman...to semi-quote Jerry Seinfeld, he looks like he's wearing Batman's pajamas. WTF? The mask is cool but those tights just don't look good on someone who doesn't have the stunning physique of Adam West. :D

..and the tights aren't from the 40s and yes they had a budget, jackass. Some of you picky bastards need to chill out.

Can't figure out why some people think he looks all wrong. Check out a classic Joker from "The Killing Joke" here: http://www.dcfanpage.de/dcu/batman/images/joker_new_03.jpg

and the king of queens as batman! sweet! where's the goddamned scary movie 3 trailer, i haven't laughed this hard in a while. (no really it's actually a funny trailer, where is it beeyothces!?!?!)

The most perfect actor possible to play the Joker, at the present point in time. If you can think of a better choice, I will be amazed.... Peace

Being a fan of old serials, I love the look they captured here. And being a fan of the comic in it's earliest incarnations, they nailed the look. I don't care who did this (fan or pro) or why they did it, but they get 2 thumbs up for the results...least based on these few stills. Totally kick ass. Oh, as for people saying "Why doesn't Warner find a way to release this" or "Why can't they attach it to something for fun" or "Why can't they post it so Bat fans can download it" the ending certainly prevents all of that. If you read thru the posts and find the spoilers -- and you learn "who" Batman fights BESIDES the Joker -- you'll instantly see why Warners would have to get ANOTHER studio to let them release this...

Its not just The Joker that Batman faces in this movie, it's ALIENS and PREDATORS, too!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm 99% sure that's Tom Kenny playing the Joker...

This is gonna be so gay. Fatty fag batman shows his little penis bulge to the Joker through tights. Oh my we live in a perverted world.

So lemme get this straight... if you give fanboys some $$$ to make a big-budget fan flick, the results are tremendous (Lord of the Rings, X-2). And now, as this shows, fanboys with no budget will still produce stuff that's better than anything Corporate Hollywood can squeeze out. Are any of you coke-addled, out-of-touch yuppies paying attention to this? Or are you too busy trying to put "Gigli" over on us?

How about we simple fanboys who don't know anybody who know somebody who slept with somebody's sister? Hmmm? How can we score the DVD Harry's sister???

Period.

Fuck you. Go back to watching your bootleg of Matrix Reloaded and eating nachos with velveeta cheese in your parents basement. If only you fuckwits knew that a built man, no matter how muscular, will not look like the comic superheroes. If you only had muscles or worked out in any shape of form you would know. If you are going to bitch about the physique, just don't, just go back to jerking off to your hentai. I loathe you, you bastards.

The shit will hit the fan

"Moreover, when is the last time there was a genuine "champion" triathlete, martial artist or rock climber who also had a body builder's physique?" Spoken like a true nerd who's never touched a cardio machine or weight in his life. Go check out the homepage of the UFC: there are tons of guys who look like competitive bodybuilders who could whip the ass of 99.99% of the population. Olympian-level gymnasts are also built like brick shithouses. As for the tights controversy: people, that IS what Batman wears. TIGHTS. Not fucking body armor designed to mask his complete lack of physical development. (Hello, Mr. Keaton.) I repeat: this is not Iron Man. Warners/Tim Burton/Schmuacher have no fucking idea who this character is. It's his CAPE that's bulletproof, and from the looks of it, you could make the case for his cowl to be, as well. When the cape is draped down, his body is generally protected from bullets. In close quarter combat, it's flung over so he can fight. If you're familiar with the Miller Year One story, and Batman's origins, that costume is as faithful as one can possibly be. I can't wait to see this film.

The get past this deal of batman being fat. Any idiot can see the photo of him on the roof was squished to fit the screen. The actor who plays The Bat is a world class athlete and fitness model with an amazing physique, and besides that, the guy pulled it off!! I saw the film last night, twice and it rocked. Very Alex Ross and some amazing costuming. The director is amazing and cast this right.

Having been a life ling Batman fan, I've always been disappointed by his represenatation on screen. Only once the Animated Series arrived did I feel that my hero had been really captured by the creators. Kevin Conway and Mark Hamill will alway be Batman and the Joker for me now, but this Batman:Dead End shows real promise. Some of the stuff revealed in spoilers seems alittle off for a live action promo, but all of this is stuff that has appeared in the comic so, nuff said. But the most important thing is that we Batman fans need to see this, our faith in a live action Batman needs to be restored. Marvel is ruling the roost with its film and TV projects, that really capture what we love about the comics, and DC seems to have lost its way. Although I enjoy Smallville and Birds of Prey, they lack alittle of the energy and comic book-ness that the Marvel product has. Someone needs to host this as a Quicktime movie for us all to see and enjoy. Or the DVD must be made commercially avaiable, from the reaction its receieved here it must surely be a winner. Being stuck in the UK can be a disadvantage to getting this stuff , so I rely on you my American Friends to help get this project the exposure it needs for the World to enjoy it.

if someone should happen to rent this movie, and then proceded to make it available on a file sharing program, like Kazaa for instance, I wouldn't hold it against them. (wink-wink-nudge-nudge)

You forgot to mention that Andrew Koenig played Boner on Growing Pains. Maybe now people will know who he is.

I have this bad feeling that this will be yet another small film that gets shown at a few Cons and then is buried forever. Please prove me wrong

Go download it now! I just did!

This movie is not on Kazaa right now. It hasn't been "leaked". All of you who have claimed to see it are lying. The costume looks *awful*

If I were Warner Bros, I'd scrap whatever Batman flick is on the books right now, and stick Sandy Collora at the helm, because if the reviews and screen caps are correct, this shows that you don't need sculpted armor, or a bigname director to make a batman flick kick ass. Gone are the days of Joel Shumacher making Gotham City look like a gay night-club. Collora has captured what I always felt to be the essence of Bob Kane's Batman, the real batman, not the fruity 60's television and comic incarnations of Batman. This is the real gritty deal Batman: Year One style. Like in the comic, the actor playing batman appears to be intremendous shape, as seen through the CLOTH COSTUME, which looks even more amazing than any of the rubber body armors of the past. honestly, I think this adds more to the Batman feel, as it always looked to me like Batman was wearing a cloth costume, and this looks like something he actually could have made himself. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Tim Burton's renditions of Batman, but this one captures the darkness even better. I mean, with all due respect to Jack Nicholson, this Joker looks SINISTER AS FUCK!!!! He looks purely evil and insane, and crazy enough to shower someone with acid. beautiful, just beautiful.

Believe me I tried to find it. I tried every word combination I could think of, and all I got was an episode of Angel and the ending to Final Fantasy 8. I've stated before that i'm not really digging the Joker's look, I think I might like it better if I could see it move. I don't know why.

it's on kazaa lite and winmx i've seen two different names: Batman - Dead End.mov and batman dead end.mov both are 40 something mb

Here ya go... http://www.clarkbartram.com/ Clark Bartram... may pull off the Bat, but could never be Bruce Wayne.

any chance of getting a copy outside the US? lemme know

*spoiler?* Are you guys serious about the Aliens/Predator thing? If so, it changes everything... in fact it would reduce this promising-looking effort to a pile of shit. This being AICN, I wouldn't take these reports seriously at all except Father Geek mentioned something about "creatures" and another TalkBack-er (who didn't reveal the ending) said Warner would need to get another studio's OK to release the thing. And I'm trying to think who else could suddenly "rip the Joker off-screen". The Last Son of Krypton comes to mind, but WB wouldn't need permission to use him. So what's the straight story here? I'm hoping this is a case of frenzied fans letting their imaginations run wild... like the X-geeks of a couple years ago who had themselves convinced "X-2" was going to be based on the "Legacy Virus" storyline (whatever the hell that was).

i've seen the first 5 seconds on this (it stars with him putting his costume (pajama) shirt on). Im gonna post a torrent of it soon.

You guys seriously think this looks better than the kevlar/leather suit of the Burton films? That really surprises me. I'm all for staying true to the source material but this doesn't look that great. The Joker looks cool though.

I was at Comic Con for another short that made the film festival called, "The Death of Batman." I actually played the Dark Knight himself. Although our little $5,000 movie didn't compare to "Dead End" in terms of art direction and cinematography, it was much more interesting from a narrative standpoint, in my opinion. If anybody would like a free DVD, please feel free to contact me at chris@highspeedla.com. I'd be happy to send you one.

MASSIVE SPOILERS for the first half of this film. DO NOT CONTINUE if you want to be suprised... ***************************************************** OK. Batman chases Joker down alley, they exchange some extremely cheesy and poorly delivered dialouge about how they "made" each other. Its like Burton's Clocktower, only really really bad. Then, an ALIEN (from Aliens) comes down and snatches the joker, then falls into the alley, then the alien fights batman, then the PREDATOR shoots the alien and jumps down to fight batman. The predator looks good but the Alien looks worse then it did in the first Alien movie. Thats all I've downloaded so far. If it werent for the fact that Predator looks so perfect, I'd write this up as a fan made fiasco. This is really, really awful. The reason I'm posting this is just to hear all you people call me a complete nut. Don't worry, I wouldn't believe it either and won't hold it against you.

Boy that sounds depressing. Why didn't they throw some Gremlins and Ewoks in there while they were at it.

i just finished watching it twice,and compared to the last 2 batman films this was sooo much better.the aliens and predator i could have done with out though.the joker was good and the dialoge wasnt awfull the acting wasnt exactly oscar performance but hey wasnt bad at all. better than anything i saw while watching the few crappy episodes of birds of prey, this concept of batman should have been on TV. and to all yes it is on kazaa its a 44.mb something download its in quicktime. and so far ive only found 2 ppl sharing the file i myself havent finished the complete dl i manged to get right up to the part where batman throws the "boomerang" at the predator (i couldnt wait so i copied the dat dile renamed it .mov and watched what i had and was impressed)

All that bitching about the rubber suit not being flexible enough is ridiculous. You can't have realism with a guy who fights crime wearing a cape, period. Fighting bulls? Yeah. Criminals? No. At least the first film was smart enough to include body armor. With all the guns on the street you'd have to be total dope to go out in the pajamas pictured above. To treat this realistically would be to have Batman get shot or arrested his first night out because his friggin flappy cape got caught in a door. Plus, with all its rustling, the damn thing would make more noise than corduroy pants on a fat guy. So much for stealth. Half the time you'd be trying not to step on it or knock things over. Jump off a perch or over a wall, you better pray it doesn't get snagged or you're likely to hang yourself or end up with a nasty whiplash. It also gives any thug the perfect chance to wrap that thing over your head while his buddy pummels you senseless then rapes your underoos wearing ass. All sorts of problems to contend with before you think of rolling on those gray pantyhose and tying a curtain around your neck. The character is best portrayed in a stylized setting where the rules of the "real" world do not apply.

Downloaded and LIKED IT ALOT! Didn't expect what happened, because, for the first time I didn't read spoilers. LOL Thanks people who made this, and I hope to see more of this kind of stuff from you in the future!

I love to watch and listen to a bunch of fat nerds site behind their computer and complain about how "they could do it better" Get a life and go out and do something besides complain about a guy who had enough balls to go out make make something that he felt so serious about. Do yourself a favor,if you don't like what you see...save your money, get some talent and go out and make yopur own film. At least Sandy Collora is trying to bring something better than what we've seen in the past, give the guy a break. As for the actor playing Batman, I think he did a great job and I'm sure he did exactly what he was told to do. As far as him being fat, give it a rest...put down the Krispy Kremes, and get your lard ass to the gym.

I'm telling ya, dont read this if you dont want it spoiled. Yes, it is available on Kazaa, i just watched it, and i was a little let down. everyone made it sound like this was going to be the greatest superhero thing ever, where as it was just a bit above average. The Joker was perfectly realized, although he isnt in it too long. I thought batman was pretty cool to begin with, but he became a bit of a wimp. When that Alien pounces on, him i could understand him being taken a back a bit, but when the predator gets there, batman gets knocked around. Now I know predators are powerful, but i personally would've prefered to see batman go ape shit and absolutely bash the living fuck out of that predator. Instead he gets tossed around and does his silly screaming. That ruined it too, batman shouldnt fall down and go "ahhh! oww!! eee!" like fucking just jack, he should be standing right back up and kicking some ass. I guess that's just what id prefer to see. But all in all it was a very well done fan film that is getting a wee bit overpraised, but still is very well made and has good production values, and i hope that this director has a long carreer making cool dark creepy movies. and thats my 2 cents.

On the 'net, buzzed, after playing a gig last night (and trying to decompress) I cracked open a beer and decided to check out AICN. Well, whoever the emm-eff was who said the Joker looks like Grampa Munster - I damn near shot beer out of my nose I started laughing so hard! Oh, and that "mysterious looking" Batman? You can buy that cheap-ass outfit at any Halloween costume store (or Target) for about $19.99. Be serious!

Where can nomal people see this? i really want to view this am i able to find it on the internet? or am i able to one day get the dvd (if they are going to come out with it)?

Anyone who says TIGHTS look good is an idiot. Yes, Batman wears tights... in the comic. And in comic books tights are a millimeter thin and FLAWLESSLY cover every inch of the body like water, and never have wrinkles. That's because they DRAW it that way and it's not the real world. In the REAL WORLD, these tights look like fucking PAJAMAS. And that SUCKS. Get it through your fat pimply heads geeks. The rubber/body armor suits of the batman movies are a nessecity, because it is the only thing that looks good. Batman in this film looks like he's wearing pantyhose. OK? It's a fucking pair of pantyhose! He looks ridiculous. If I had to choose between a rubber suit with mucles, and a pair of longjohns that make batman look like he's at a gay costume party, I AM GOING TO PICK THE BODY ARMOR.

I played the Dark Knight in "The Death of Batman," a $5,000 movie that was shown on Friday at Comic Con. Although it doesn't compare to "Dead End" in terms of art direction and cinematography (they probably tripled our budget), it definitely is much more interesting and unique with regards to the narrative. If you'd like a FREE DVD, contact me at chris@highspeedla.com. I'd be happy to send one to you. And by the way, there are NO TIGHTS in this one!

1) The belt doesn't hold up the "underwear". 2) Aliens, Predators, and Batman have a history. 3) The pajama look is correct. 4) Yes, this suit looks better than the rubber hell of the movies, see the suit in action before making stupid remarks. 5) Get over it.

You'd go "awwww" too if your gut was sliced open with a metal razor jackass. Yes, Predators are powerful and yes Batman would have been pummeled like that. Nitpicking jackass.

I worked on a show called American Health and Ftiness with the actor a few years ago. He is not at all fat. You geeks will complain about anything. Paraphrasing William Shatner from his great appearance on SNL. Get a life, move out of your parents basement. Do any of you know what it is like to even kiss a girl? Stop complaining about little things. If you hate this film so much than go rent Batman and Robin and see what a true piece of garbage looks like!

I just downloaded and then immediately deleted this piece of foul fanboy shit. Shame on everyone who props up this gay fanboy gangbang of a movie just because it's the closest you bastards will ever get to another Batman movie.

...but was INCREDIBLY fucking stupid. Oh well. I'm just glad I'd been spoilered going in. I think I'd be pretty pissed to have been surprised by the pointless turn in the "plot." I knew to expect the stupidity. By the way, how come they could make the sci fi characters look more realistic than the Joker's eyebrows?

I found it on KaZaa do a search for "Batman: Dead End" file size is 44,514kb quicktime file and I do Love this small clip, the best part is at the end when bats gets up flips out the second batarang and gets in to the "come get some WOUPASS" heh it ROX

Sure the pics look great, but c'mon! I wasn't sure if this guy is kidding or not with this movie. It's purely a fan made movie and nothing more. Why didn't they throw some Gremlins and Ewoks in there while they were at it.

Meant to say "Ha, good one" after the "Ewok" quote. That was right on point.

Yes, to all of you slamming this film, STOP SMOKING SO MUCH CRACK!!! And for the IDIOT who said everyone at the Con laughed when the Alien and Predator showed up, dude, you must have been in a different room, watching a different Batman vs Aliens vs Predator short film. The crowd at the screening and at the masquerade went completely APE SHIT when they showed up, people were cheering and screaming, going totally nuts... Lay off the pipe dude, that stuff'l kill quicker than cigarettes... That moron didn't even see the film, like almost EVERY OTHER MORON SAYING STUPID SHIT that HASN'T SEEN THE FILM, or a live naked woman for that matter...Shut up fool, your mom doesn't count!!! BIOTCH!!!

I found a copy of this via peer2peer (quicktime format 320x240) so I sat down to watch what we've been told is THE BEST batman to date... fuckin' hell this thing is a steaming piece of shit. SFX are very good, costumes are nice.. and that's it... all you are left with after that is horrible acting (Batman doing his "Dirty Harry" voice), lame as hell dialog, and a dumbass, retarded fanboy "suprise" in the form of Alien vs Predator vs Batman. Goes to show how people so desperate for *anything* invovling these franchises will worship the first thing to come along, regardless of quality. -Half-

huh

I was expecting the "surprises" to be character related. Still neat looking stuff.

As a non-fanboy with no pretensions or Hollywood connections, I will offer my opinion on Batman: Dead End. Apart from a few weak shots, this is extremely well made. Acting: could have used a little more "oomph"... Andrew seems to be capable, but he needed to add more of a "crazyness" to his delivery. Batman was just fine - no probs at all. No Keaton or Clooney or worse yet, Kilmer baggage to deal with. Production: very good. Anyone who says "I could have done better" clearly has no idea what it takes to produce film of even this quality. Costumes: Bats looked a little too "Adam West" for my tases... all the rest were just fine. You fanboys will never be satisfied.

So this fabled newsgroup its on? I cant find the bloody thing. Is it even there, or is that just a cruel joke aimed at the poor fanboys wetting themselves over this? If it does exist on the newsgroups, would someone kindly post a motherfucking direct link?

the file is 44 meg, quicktime, and you just have to search for Batman: Dead End

THIS is the shit dreams are made of!!! It may not be the biggest, baddest, finest production of all time, but by god its still a great little fucking movie!!! Thank you VERY VERY much Mr. Sandy Collora!!!!!

first post... this is free, so this link is legal, right? anyway, here's a link for those of you with bit torrent http://torrentreactor.com/download.php?file=Batman+Dead+End.mov.torrent

GODDAMN! everyone who hasnt seen it i suggest you do! and just wait and see who turns up to the fight!!

There was a bit of James Horner's ALIENS score in there, too. The part it's used most heavily in....*pounce*....is used really really well. I'm glad Collora went back to those classic themes rather than come up with new stuff. Very very very well done.

Wow. Color me impressed. Turned out much better than I thought it would, especially from the pics. The atmosphere, the lighting, the camera work were all exceptional. While I've been a fan of the all-black Batman look since the '89 film (if not totally thrilled with the whole rubber suit thing), this short certainly captured the look and style of Batman. Some of the moves that he pulls are classic Batman. And I loved how they brought him down to earth. The Joker gets the sucker punch on him with the brass knuckles and like a badass, Batman backhands him, spits out his blood and then turns to kick him down the alleyway. It was everything we've come to expect of an urban fighter but have never really gotten before on film. While I was certainly impressed with the techincal achievement of the rest of the film following the two big reveals, I would have liked to seen it more grounded. More between the Joker and Batman. Koenig's Joker is spot-on (though he borrows a bit from Hammil's Joker voice when he first starts speaking). This should be a wake-up call to Warner's on the direction to take the franchise. Nothing said Batman more than the shot of him jumping off the roof, tucking his legs up to his chest and then jutting them back down to dart towards the ground, the Bat-signal blaring in the background. The slow-motion shot of him hitting the rain-soaked ground and then standing (complete with momentarily extra-large cape for effect) was stunning. That little sequence alone was the definitive film vision of Batman.

I agree, the scene where The Batman stands up after landing from his rooftop jump ROCKS, it looks like a million dollar CG effect they would spend a week on in Hollywood. As far as Batmans suit is concerned, I thought it looked great, ya it had a few wrinkles, you can see the seams in the rooftop still, but overall it had a classic appeal. As far as people laughing at the premiere at the Con, that is absolutely absurd, people cheered when the other characters showed up. They also seemed to love Clark Bartram, the actor who played The Batman...as they cheered him in the credits. Ya, he may only be 5'9"-5'10" or so, but don't you jerkoffs realize half of Hollywood is 5'8" or under...Keaton is about 5'6" for goodness sakes. Bottom line here is you people are so damn bitchy about everything, enjoy this film for what it is ( a great attempt at classic Batman) and get on with your boring life.

I will put this on Kazaa tonight at 5:00PM EST in Quicktime, for those who are unable to track it down.

Single pics just don't tell you if a movie is good or bad--plenty of awful looking pics posted on AICN have preceeded excellent films. But...tights? It looks like Adam West returns. And What are those caterpillar eyebrows on the Joker? As someone said, he looks like Grandpa Munster. Sure I'm picking, but what do I have to see but a few pictures that don't earn the raves I reading? I don't see what's to get excited about with these images. They're dark sure, but they still look like they could have come from a straight-to-video crapfest just as easily as from a David Fincher movie. I have to see some footage to get me going on this one.

if anyone has a direct link to it that doesn't involve kazaa let us know...

God damn you all so much. I was so excited over this so called ' Best batman ever' and what did i get? A f*cking elseworlds. I stayed up all night waiting for a f*cking elseworlds. Guess the first 2 minutes was pretty cool. But come on!?! That they made alien/predator/batman comics was lame enough. So shoot me all you dark horse sluts, but I was expecting something a little cooler then cross franchises.

AOL-Time Warner's gonna run this copyright-infringing schmo through a meat grinder.

http://www.sajuta.org/batman_deadend_fanfilm.mov

(***spoilers***) I definitely stand by my previous statements that dedicated fans of any given source material will create better results than Hollywood hacks out to make a buck off of merchandising. That said, I withdraw my praise for this film. They got off to a good start, proving that overpaid, overrated celebrities are not needed (at all) to bring fictional characters to life. They then piss it all away by bringing in Aliens & Predators... exactly the move a Corporate Entity would pull in order to sell more cheap action figures and Happy Meal toys. A previous post said Batman, Aliens, and Predators have "history". I have to disagree. Batman has a history with the Joker, Two-Face, Commissioner Gordon, Catwoman, Ra's al Ghul, the Penguin, et cetera... what he had with Aliens & Predators was a marketing ploy worked out by lawyers for Fox, Dark Horse, DC & Time-Warner-AOL. People have been making wisecracks about Gremlins and Ewoks... but why not? If some idiot at DC did a one-shot deal with Lucasfilms to have Bats fight a troop of Ewoks, would that be a legitimate part of the "Batman Saga", or an embarassing jump-the-shark moment that would make fans wince for years? Superman boxed Muhammed Ali back in the 70s; do we need to see Ali as the bad guy in an upcoming Superman film? Batman has been an enduring part of American Pop Culture for almost SEVENTY YEARS (!!!)... there are many reasons for this, but cheesy, money-driven inter-corporate crossovers aren't one of them.

I was with it right up until the alien. then it went downhill. still the fight scene was awesome, very Bat Man like, I just wish it would have been Bane. You could have the same fight just dress that guy like Bane instead of the predator and it would have been the greatest 8 mins. of my life. Instead it was a very cool movie that just makes knid of squirm when I look at the aliens. too bad.

Batman vs. Aliens vs. Predator! Followed up by Batman vs. Superman vs. Aliens vs. Predator Archie vs. Aliens vs. Predator Blade Runner vs. The Thing Spawn vs. Mary Kate vs. Ashley Can you believe that? It's not Mary Kate AND Ashley - it's gonna be Mary Kate VERSUS Ashley. It is going to be one helluva fanboy year. This is a film by a guy who is desperately trying to get the attention of Hollywood's elite. This isn't an example of someone trying to be true to the Batman franchise, it's just someone trying to get hired as the director of one of the many potential upcoming Batman, Aliens and Predator movies. Sad. Should have been called "The Bad Joke".

But I'm posting anyways. Guys, wipe the jizz out of your eyes and take a real good look. They look like a couple of dudes in well-made Halloween costumes. Theres a REASON they went with a rubber suit, and it's because in real life anyone - and I don't care how cut they are - is gonna look ridiculous in a traditional Batman getup. Sorry folks. You're the 1% of the population that thinks this looks good. Everyone else on Earth (except Mexico, with their rich Lucha Libre tradition, and Japan, where they invented the Power Rangers) would laugh it off the screen. sk

This post excites this girl only becuz it rmeinds me of how excited I was when Darren Aronofsky said that he was gonna film BATMAN: YEAR ONE like an early seventies cop movie. BTW, is HITCHER 2 any good? I mean, I know it's probably not any good, but is it scary? I love scary movies. Let me know. daymiakelley@collegeclub.com

There has to be something better that is not spandex or stiff heavy rubber. Unlike most I hate all the batman and superman films, while loving both characters. Timburtons batman focused too much on darkness and left the rest of brucewayne out. I don't have time to go into why the superman movies sucked. Thank God for Bruce Timm and Paul Dini. Back to the costumes, Daredevil was close but leather is not the answer. I'm not a seam-striss So I don't know what to say but byt I would try for something new. But I do preferthe grey and black look to all balck with yellow trim. I'm done rambling for now.

Anyone know where I can find comic book fan films like this? I love to watch them but am sick, sick, sick of Star Wars fan films.

They formed his clip-on ponytail into two bat ears.

Thanks to whoever posted the link, I tried several times to find this on limewire, and ended up losing sleep thinking about how cool it looked... But damn... am I disappointed This was Burton's Planet of the Apes BAD! Started out cool , despite bad dialogue and acting, but then turned into a pile of crap. Aliens & Predators don't belong in the Batman universe.

Just downloaded it........I have to say, whilst I know this is a fan film, if there was EVER gonna be a film released based on these characters in this style and design I think just about everyone on earth would pay to watch it!!!!!!

Thanks for the link Cyridel. Now that I've seen it...uh, I'm a little more impressed by the site of such detailed Predator costumes than the Batman stuff. Actually, the Batman stuff was, well, a bit on the hoaky side. I mean they were playing it straight, which is good, but it was so damned closed to being a parody of Batman you might see in another more serious movie, ya know? It was almost laughable. You NEED Kevin Conroy to do the voice of Batman, it just has to be or else it sounds too corny. It wasn't the jackass crap of Batman and Robin, but by comparison I think Spider-Man felt more sincere. Just goes to prove we need to meet the man under the mask before we can get into him wearing a dorky costume, I think. Maybe the heads up I got here sent me in with high expectations. If I'd seen this with no expectations at all, I probably would be cheering for it.

...that this is exactly why fanfic writers should never be given a budget. I kept expecting Godzilla to show up on the horizon, or the Terminator to come and save Batman. Yeesh. sk

I think the big let down has to do with the fact that none of the pictures shown showed the predator or alien. had I know they would be in it ahead of time I would'nt be shaking my head in disbelief now.

So it wasn't as great as we were lead to beleive. It was still kinda of fun and way better then most star wars fan films.(but not Pink 5) I would like to see more films like this. Where would we be without Bambi vs Godzilla?

and I didn't have to travel all the way to San Diego to do so. I actually just typed in a search for it at Kazaa. A source came up so I figured I would download it. What I downloaded was the best representation of Batman to date. The man playing Batman has the perfect Batman build. This is how Batman should look. The Joker could've been better...I absolutely loved his look though...I maybe would've liked him better if I had gotten to see more of him. And the twist when Joker disappears almost made me cream my pants. It was absolutely unexpected. I see why WB would never release this. Lets just say this...Batman becomes the prey of some very mean, very famous creatures...there you go!

Okay, opinions are like screenplays, everybody's got one. Fine. Understood... But riddle me this... If this film is such a pile of crap, why does everyone in Hollywood have their assistants running around around town trying to find this movie? I know! They want to flush it down the toilet like the turd it is! No! They want have their lunch served to them on it, so their fallen salad crutons can be redeemed on! Or maybe Warners or Fox will put a bounty on Sandy Collora's head! Yeah! That's it! Boba Fett will go after Sandy and he'll put him in movie fighting Batman... Yeah, that's definitely it. Fett rips, so does this flick... I need a latte.

But it's not as great as everyone is making it out to be. It's all right, I guess. It was semi-interesting in the beginning, but then it got stupid with the Alien/Predator angle. And it didn't even have an ending. It just sorta stopped. Ho hum. This site sure knows how to build shit up like it's cake, don't it?

Right here: http://sk8bt.no-ip.com:6969/ It's a Bittorrent thingie. You'll need the program to download it. Enjoy this bit of silliness one and all. --Marr

If you're the real Sandy Corolla, then congrats on the buzz you've generated. I think some of the negative comments here -- my own included -- came from the massive hype. Although I thought the story was silly, I loved the cinematography and the representation of Batman. Beautifully done. I think some of us just wished the story equalled the imagery. We were set up to be blown away and were a little miffed when the film turned that corner into Aliens/Predator. But the reality is that this film was intended as a calling card much more than a narrative. And it is an incredible calling card! You'll get tons of recognition and -- I'm sure -- a few expensive power lunches out of this. I guess some of us really just wanted a simple little Batman tale. But your goal was to show off the range of your abilities -- and of your crew. That goal might have clashed with our desire to see simply a cool little Batman movie. Nonetheless, I was thrilled with your presentation of Batman. I just wanted more of him doing his thing in his element. But you made this for your own purposes and I suppose that people like me should just be grateful that there actually IS so much in it for us to appreciate. I like your Batman better than any other live-action version I've seen. I just wanted to see him in a different story. But, ultimately, I must say congratulations...and thanks!

Somebody bitching about a short film (in this case more of a visual resume) not having an ending. Sheesh. How do you people even get on the Internet?

Sorry, but I owned a Corolla once. It is a fine fine automobile.

...was on the live action TV show, The Flash. I didn't like the show, but that costume made John Shipp look huge without looking plastic. Also, it was a very dark red, and I agree with other posters that dark grey would look better for this classic costume. I'm not sure how they made that suit, but I remember reading that it required a cooling system - there were no visible seams, and the fake muscles were well defined and shadowed. There is a small picture at http://www.toyotter.com/sp/tvflash.html

That SUCKED. It screamed cheesy geek wetdream. Joker sucked with the power of a Hoover brand black hole. "You made me...daddy!" Bah. But who made you suck? I LOVE Batman, but that was just laughable. I'll take the original Tim Burton movie any day. I will give it one thing though. That shot when Bats stood up slow after jumping off of the building gave me wood. Excellent.

Hey I just downlaoded it this morning and I have to say its not bad at all the end makes me mad are they gonna make a part 2 or just leave it with a "holy shit hows he get out of this "ending and never know????

But hey aint know bruce wayne, he may be able to pull of bats coz there is a mask, but in the pic i saw at www.clarkbartram.com he has a blonde foppish haircut and a sad and somewhat cheeky grin!! Christian Bale as Batman/Bruce Adrien Brody as the Joker!! have a suit like the one in the short but betterly made and produce etc.! could make for an excellent film!! i wanna see this short some one leak it to the net

If they had just added Tom Bombadil, a lilly-white Kingpin and given Bats some mechanical webshooters then maybe all the fanboys would be appeased.

That cowl looks awfully Matrixy to me.

One of the cool things about the comic book Batman that no movie has replicated is that he has no pupils or irises, just blank white eyes. It's creepy as heel, but still allows him to be expressive in a way that goggles (white triangles built in to a cowl) wouldn't. Seeing his pupils and irises makes it seems far less comic book style.

WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD IT? KAZAA CRAPS OUT. Please let me know. Thanks

Please change that headline to THERE'S A NEW ALIEN or THERE'S A NEW PREDATOR MOVING SHOWING AT COMIC-CON because quite frankly, I dont think the Batman fans appreciate this for what it is, and that is a shame. At least the rest of us fanboys will cherish seeing a live action crossover of three of the coolest franchises ever.

I have to say that I am truly impressed with the short. This really is the best batman film ever. The tone and everything else was nailed right on the spot. This is for all the FANS... I just DOWNLOADED the Batman: Dead End film off Kazaa. That's right. You can download it on the internet. Just search for batman dead end. It would be great if someone could download the film and serve it on a website that everyone could download from.

Mind blowing! Get it!!!

Yes, I demand a reasonable ending for any narrative, be it a feature film, short film, whatever. All stories should have a beginning, middle and an end. Exposition, climax, resolution. This was an exercise in filmmaking and nothing more. It is fine viewed as such, but claims that this is the best Batman everyone has seen is laughable. The dude did nothing but spout off a couple of lines and throw some Bat-a-rangs. Please. Everyone is so eager to give the middle finger to Hollywood that they don't even care if the product they support is actually worth hyping up. This WASN'T. It's of mild interest, got stupid with the Alien/Predator angle and that's all there is to it. Any of the episodes of the animated series is better than this film. Just because BATMAN: DEAD END didn't piss us off and make us cry in agony like BATMAN AND ROBIN did, doesn't make it great. Just because SUPERMAN III didn't suck balls like SUPERMAN IV did doesn't make it great, just less annoying. A noble effort, but I saw nothing in this film that would make me think anyone involved would be the ideal for a new Batman flick. This is fan fic run rampant and with a budget. Oooh aaahhh. Pfft!

...All I see is 100% pure...West

I am downloading it from kazaa as we speak! Once I have it I am staying logged on so the rest of you will have someone else to download from!! I hope it is as good as you say! I personally dont mind the idea of a manin tights as long as they are really tight! hmmm.

hi this is clark bartrams daughter the guy that cant be "BRUCE WAYNE" well you dont know him like i do!! he probably is waaaaaaayyyyyy cooler than you. no, he is way cooler than you for a fact!!! he can be weird but i still luv him lots.and i know he can TOTALLY play that part.oh ya he is soooooo not fat UNLIKE someone i am typing to. have you even freakin see the batman thing he wuz in oh ya your just saying that cuz you are jealous of him i think we both know that!!!!dont ya think??!!my bro wants ta say somthin to him here he is,.. hi this is mitch clarks son, u fat guys out there i bet i can jump on u and fly to heaven. bye bye, talk to ya l8er (later) LUV THE GRL THAT WANTS TO KICK YOUR BIG FAT BUTT!!!

hi this is clark bartrams daughter the guy that cant be "BRUCE WAYNE" well you dont know him like i do!! he probably is waaaaaaayyyyyy cooler than you. no, he is way cooler than you for a fact!!! he can be weird but i still luv him lots.and i know he can TOTALLY play that part.oh ya he is soooooo not fat UNLIKE someone i am typing to. have you even freakin see the batman thing he wuz in oh ya your just saying that cuz you are jealous of him i think we both know that!!!!dont ya think??!!my bro wants ta say somthin to him here he is,.. hi this is mitch clarks son, u fat guys out there i bet i can jump on u and fly to heaven. bye bye, talk to ya l8er (later) LUV THE GRL THAT WANTS TO KICK YOUR BIG FAT BUTT!!!

hi its me again i said some mean things the last time i typed to yall. but my dad i swear is really so not fat so dont say anymore bad things about him or else lol(lots of laff)jk(just kiddin) bye luv the grl that wanted to kick your big fat butt and may still!!! jk

Wuzz up all, i urge you all to try kazza 1 more time over the next 12 hours, i'm sure you'll find what your looking for. -mace out~

This short is all-in-all amazing with the exception of the acting. BUT, if we had half decent actors willing to tackle the Hollywood money juggernaut, then we'd have a whole film instead of a short. The concept is still beautiful. P.S. it is on Kazaa

After watching this thing 3 times, 1 back to back and then I had to take a breather to let it all sink in before I watched it again. This is a very simple no fat short that delivers the hype that the boys here at AICN said it was. This director needs to helm this product. I'm not saying we need a Batman vs. Pred/Alien movie just yet, but seeing those two baddies sharing the same screen time does say one thing, PRED VS ALIEN NEEDS TO BE DONE PROPER SYTLE. But this guy deserves a shot at making a honest Batman movie. He has a good look coming into a Prequel type of deal, but who cares. Burton stuff was wicked, but not anywhere close to gospel. The pantsmoker that made the rest of the films needs to be shot. No double villian crap anymore, and please, make it snappy. We not getting any younger. - mace out

I agree with you GrammarThefAuto. I liked the rubber suit myself. The pictures are not very good here. The Joker looks kick ass.

Hi, just saw this film. It's not terrible, although when I read some of the talk backs about who and what I thought they were joking... Well, they're NOT! I was stunned by the joker's exit... Well, if you want to check it out yourself, you can check the following newsgroups, I sense it will be there over the next few hours. alt.binaries.movies.divx alt.binaries.multimedia.scifi, alt.binaries.vcd, alt.binaries.vcd.highspeed,

Surfin' around and found this at theforce.net: http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/ Tights, nipples, crazed Joker and all! I'm downloading it right now...be warned, big file at 43.4 MB

God that was wretched. The costumes, the acting, the atmosphere, the camerawork, the mother fucking Predator!! I wouldnt even care if htis wasnt advertised as the second coming. Every frame of either Burton film is lightyears beyond this even in terms of concept. If thats what a cloth Batman costume could look like count me the fuck out. They could have at least gotten a guy that slightly resembled Batmans body type. The guy looks like he can barely move on account of his absurdly oversized muscles. He voice is equally terrible. The guy who plays the Joker wines far more than he is even slightly menacing. After punching Batman he says "What's wrong? Can't take a joke? I'd love to know where they found the writers of the original 60's series to write this. And then the fucking aliens and Predator show up. I mean Jesus Christ if they had any credibility at all it flew out the window then. If you were gonna go through all this trouble why nt at least try to make it semi serious. The filmmaking was also bad. I mean I suppose on a budget of nothing it was ok and I don't want to knock an up and comer but these shots where just stock Batman schtick, I could have done that in my sleep.

...using a rubber Alien and the old Adam West costume and without having, y'know, a plot. Give the drooling a rest, fanboys. This short gets one thing right and one thing only: the Joker's look. Having established a beautifully cinematic Joker - up against a halfassed underoos Batman (really, was this costume based on the "Arctic Batsled" action figure or something? Why is he not wearing black? Or at least some costume that doesn't make it look like he's wearing his underwear outside his pants?) - the story ditches the only visually well-realized depiction of Batman's best and most fascinating enemy to throw in that classic villain from the Batman rogues' gallery... the Predator. What the fuck? Did we not see this storyline played out much better in an actual comic series many many moons ago? God damn, you people are stupid. You'll cream your shorts over any random geek references thrown your way, no matter how half-assedly it's done. Why not just have Batman fight, say, Boba Fett? And Buffy? And have all three of them played by Bruce Campbell? Goddamn morons.

i didnt take time to read all the talk backs, but i skimmed and didnt see if anyone posted any info on the director. sandy collora and his studios do a lot of work in the toy industry. they have done several sculpts for mezco toyz. i think they did their "scary tales" line as well as the recently releases "cryptozoology".

Is there anywhere that this can be downloaded? Why even show the pictures if us common folk can't watch the movie?

Hey, I just grabbed this off Kazaa, so thanks to those who are sharing it. The film is an interesting exercise, with more good stuff than bad stuff. Joker looks great, but he has awful dialogue. Batman looks like the Ross version, as many have posted already. What bugs me most is that guy-in-suit aliens usually don't look so good compared to the original. The guy who wore the suit in the first ALIEN was about eight feet tall and weighed 100 pounds or thereabouts. A normal guy wearing an alien suit looks like a fat alien. I think people are over-reacting to this film, whether they hate it or love it. It's a showoff piece, a high-budget fan fragment, an experiment. I liked it okay.

to omeganman20 i no your jealous of MY DAD!!!! he is batman HELLO!!actually the REAL score is 10 out of 10. ok?! he is soooooooooooooo awesome well the director is also a very talented person and everyone wasnt laughing at how funny it was they laffed cuz they werent ecpecting THREE bad guys in the movie so that is the true answer. buh bi luv the grl who knowws the her stuff

this......was good....for about 3 minutes. then, they opened their mouths, THEN Aliens v. Predators???!?!??!?!?!?! Dont mix the genres please, one or the other, but not apples and oranges in the same bowl. for fucks sakes i was so excited to see this, then THIS shit.........

So, awhile back there was a big buzz cause some film school student did his adaptation of the LOBO PARAMILITARY CHRISTMAS SPECIAL. I never saw it. Does anyone know where THAT can be found and seen. I/E Downloaded? Thanks

I have downloaded this from Kazaa and from TheForce.Net. Both versions won't play. I get sound but no video. Does anyone know what the Quicktime error message, "-8892" means?

yes, really intense if you can stop laughing at joker getting pulled off screen by aliens and battling predators... this is complete and utter crap. if you're trying to track it down, track it down so you can see that batman & robin really wasn't that bad of a film, this is worthy of zero hype.

the best and most faithful adaptation of the dark knight.hollywood needs to see this and realize that their movies just dont cut it with the fans.be faithful to the characters and you will have a hit.by the way ,the short is showing at the force.net

You can download it at: http://www.theforce.net/theatre/shortfilms/batman-deadend/

Y'know, when George Clooney and QT kidnap this family, cross the border, and get it on with Salma Hayek. Cool. Great. Then everything changes and it becomes a vampire movie! Same thing happens here. A dark, twisted, character-study of two old rivals. Then the aliens show up! Pah-lease. You know, as it is a fan film I can see how they could've veered off into that direction. But trust me, they could've been in the same league as the George Lucas in Love guy if they'd stuck to a NORMAL STORY.

Very well made, and has no one noticed that Joker's played by Boner from "Growing Pains?"

It might as well have been a Pepsi ad, with all of the other copyrighted content in it. Let's see, what's missing? Oh, I know, not enough salsa.

This looks a lot like the new production from Bat in the sun studios....look at the website batinthesun.com This looks similar to the Dark Justice film being made independantly.

Yeah right up to when they started talking was fucking badass, shit studios spend millions to create shots like the one when Batman rises the puddle. The Joker also looked pretty good as well. But when they started talking, ehhh. It would have been better if Joker was the only one who talked while Batman answered with punches. Then out of fucking nowhere an alien grabs the joker and one attacks Batman. WTF? I started to laugh when the alien attacked Batman. Don't you want to ask yourself how the hell the aliens got to earth, and of all places Gotham City ? Then the predator, now it they had only done the predator that would have been cool, but only one of them like in the dark horse deal. Yeah it has this cool factor but the laughable factor far outweighs the cool factor by a lot. I could have lived with the predator but the aliens went way too far. The quality of the directing was awesome though, everything about besides the story was great. I'm pretty sure if there were five more minutes of that and the Borg would have appeared to assimalate Batman.

i'd like to say it was mediocre at best, but there was just something too cool about it. I looked past the clunky line delivery and really liked how it was set up. good job... i want more.

You can get a taste of the short at www.christopherstapleton.net. Click on the "Latest News" link.

He's already proven that he can look good in a a non rubber Batsuit. He put Adam West, and this guy to shame. I think he also plays on that new truckstop commerical for the SUV. And Lindsay Lohan as Barbara Gordon!!

Go to this link and click on the first post's link. Just right click to save it to your hard drive. No lie. The cameo at the end is more like two cameos (just in case you're skeptical;) Do it. It's cool and funny and I kinda like the Batman dude as he has the perfect voice and face for the role (even if he is a little stunted vertically). http://www.rottentomatoes.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=254099

Fucken critics man, Saying the short was terrible, he had the balls to do something original, and for all you fuckheads who just dont get why the aliens and predators were there, READ THE FUCKEN COMICS OR ASK A QUESTION then maybe you'll know what dead end is. The short is Fine, they are not proffesional actors what the FUCK do you expect. and the plain batman costume instead of the rubber one is Pretty damn well done,

Let me start off saying wow. This was ten times cooler and more well done and concieved than the entire run of Birds of Prey. I've been reading and I've read about the cape effect. Now the cool thing about that was it gave me the whole "T-1000 rising from the checkered tile" vibe to it. When Joker went up I was thinking, what the F**K?!? And then the Alien showed up and I new now it was one of THOSE movies. Another nerdgasm came when I saw the signature laser marks of the Predator. On a final note the final shot looked like it could be a basis of an entire movie itself. Batman vs. Predators vs. Aliens sounds like a great movie idea, it all around rocks.

Having spent almost 3 hours downloading this on my shitty dialup I can confidently say the HYPE on this DID NOT PAY OFF!!! The people claiming this flick as something amazing were either dropped as babies or have yet to reach the 6th grade. There's nothing original or truly creative about this. They shoveled a lot of money into a short film that essentially demonstrates they are good at copying other people's work. If I were in an exec and saw this I'd say "Nice, but what can YOU create?" They should have put some effort into creating their own material. The mishmash of characters aside, all of this has already been done. They used the same music, recreated the costumes, used similar art direction and lighting as previous movies, even the style in which it was made wasn't compelling. Sure, it was worth a laugh but its nothing inspired. The little amount dialogue that was present was a riff on the "You made me!" scene of Burton's Batman. Even the actor playing Batman delivered it in Keaton's Dirty Harryish style. This was no film "made for the fans" on a shoe string budget. Even at the end of the credits it says "made for promotional use by the filmmakers" They're looking to score another gig, that's all. They even had a CATERER for christ's sake! For people with the amount of resources they have, they really should stop watching so many films, read more and find their own voice, one that hasn't already been spoken for.

Do my eyes deceive me? Just looked up the guy who played The Joker (Andrew Koenig) on IMDB, and it says that he played Boner on "Growing Pains". Way to go, Boner! Glad to see ya back in action!

In this world of downloadable information none of you seem to grasp the concept "If its out there it may be claimed" If you use Kazaa, this batman film is just a search engine away. do yourselves a favor and check it out before your heads explode. Peace, Farley

The fact that people are actually taking this seriously makes me weep for the human race. I loved it for EXACTLY what it was, a REAL Batman going all out on the Darkhorse Batman vs Predator mini-series, one of my favorite Bat stories. Two warriors that are just not going to give up until one is DEAD. The cinematography was tits, and the music played out ALL the right notes. The fact that people couldn't even enjoy the homage to the end of the first Predator (Where the cast is shown one by one during the credits) SICKENS me. Your not fans guys. You people striving for a story that wasn't there.

LOVED the Bandages on his stomach and hands. The harley quinn reference (How Joker escaped). The you created me line (Reference to the Burton batman). I loved how the Bat's attacked the predator first, and his high tech metals are more high tech then THE PREDATORS. This short rocked, all the Batman movies sucked ballz...They were directed by studios, don't forget that...

This thing is crazy, just saw it on Superherohype.com. Batman looks like he should, Joker looks like he should. For those that dont want to know...SPOLIERS,SPOILERS ahead... The Aliens and the Predators look real good, this isn't crappy small budget stuff done in someones garage, they look good. I just wish the thing was longer.

loved the 'year zero' look for bats. loved the look of the joker. (jack nicholson ? please !) loved the dark horse crossover thing: alright it's a bit rich for a short, but the guy is trying to get noticed and on the strength of this i think he deserves to be! i thought the joker's dialogue needed a re-write, it just didn't sound like natural speech but come on guys - this little movie is great entertainment and it didn't cost any of you a cent. if this team doesn't go on to get a proper feature budget then there really is no justice in hollywood. which of course there isn't.

It's 5 am right now in campbell California and before I rest my peepin eye balls, I check kazaa for the batman movie once again hopeing some kind sir has posted the new batman move short. LOW AND BEHOLD THEY DO!!! If anyone has kazaa go into the search engine and type batman or batman:dead end. I just started downloading it so I have not seen the finished product yet but I am sure it is awesome. Enjoy!

No need for Kazaa ! Batman Dead End is now available here : http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/index.shtml So you can get it there, and make your very own opinion ou of it. See ya ! DarkCowBoy

The guy who played Batman in the short film is a fitness model turned actor named Clark Bartram.He has appeared several times in the magazine American Health & Fitness (soon to change title to AHF). Issue 18, which is about to begin production, will feature a pic of this new Batman in the gym so you can see how amazing this guy's physique really is. The photo will appear in the Scoop section of AHF. The bad news is that you'll have to wait to November 11th to see it on newwstands. If you can't wait, issue 17 (on newsstand September 9th with Shemar Moore from the WB's Birds of Prey on the cover) has a back training article featuring Clark Bartram as well. Isn't it funny that the guy playing Batman is named Clark? And Bartram is really close to Batman. Weird. How do I know all this? I'm the art director for the magazine!

Just got Dead End from Theforce.net and its Awsome!! You guys slaggin' off the Joker, have you ever actually read a Batman comic? Come on, this is how he's supposed to be! OK the Alien/Predator stuff is a little forced in there but the guy is obviously showcasing his film making ability. I never thought a live action Batman would look good in the stretch bodysuit but I was wrong, anyone complaining about the real world logistics of fighting crime in a cape and tights should not be watching fantasy type films, I can get the real world outside my front door! Ever heard of 'suspension of disbeleif'? Mr Bartram looks EXACTLY like the early comics version, plus the voices sounded like they should, even the dodgy dialogue sums up the relationship between Bats and Napier! Grim, Gritty and Dark, just like Batman films and Batman himself should be!

trying to watch it from the quicktime link but it says I'm missing something, not available on quicktime server. I can view other items (trailers) on quicktime, any suggestions?

I cannot believe the coolness of the movie. Those who remember the Batman cross-over from the early 90s know what I'm talking about! WB needs to hire the director and the cast from this short film. To be honest, I feel like throwing away my 1990 Batman DVD and just keep watching and whatching and watching this film in my computer. Holy shit! It rocks!

www.theforce.net has the quicktime movie just righ click save as target and view what should the next BATMAN movie as long as Warners listens to the true BATMAN fans!!!!!

Whatever. A true Batman fan would clamor for a serious and realistic take on the Batman mythos, not some stupid fan boy crossover crap. This film chucked everything it had going for it the minute the Alien and Predators showed up. Feh.

Obviously if you don't like this film you are an idiot. You should be watching a Steel Magnolias and Fried Green Tomatoes marathon instead of posting your stupid and deluded fanboy criticism!

Obviously? Sorry, I didn't realize that this five minute exercise in technique was the barometer of good taste. Excuse me for expecting quality from entertainment. The film had good atmosphere and some cool shots in the beginning. The Batman/Joker stuff was building to something possibly of interest, but all that was chucked, again I say!, for stupid fan boy crossover crap. Who gives a flying flip about Batman vs. Aliens vs. Predators? This isn't Batman. This is nerd poo. This film quickly became what all previous incarnations of filmed Batman became: clunky action mixed with a serious lack of logic or emotion. Sorry. Nice try, but this guy was showing off, not telling a compelling story. As a calling card, it's very good. As a movie to rival all previous incarnations of Batman, whatever. It's nothing special. This is being viewed at comic conventions and should stay there. You guys will hype anything. Ain't it cool?

It's on Kazaa And it'S AMAZING

the joker is none other than "boner" from that 80's staple of family shitcoms "growing pains". don't believe me? check the imdb, and take a closer look

Just watched it thanks to BT.. um... interesting. The editing and costuming make it look like a low-budget student-film. The appearance of Aliens and Predadors is bizarre and kinda dumb. At the end it says the film is "only for the promotional use of the filmmakers" which sorta makes one wonder what they're trying to use it for... -Dan

This isn't even worthy of a saturday morning special

It was getting soo good him beating up Joker, than a guy dressed up as a pathetically made alien came out and attacked him, than the predators came out and it went dark. Completely dumb movie. I hope the director is shot!

Well, for all of you who are still trying to find the film, you can download it at superherohype.com. But I have to say I've never been more disapointing then I was when I watched this so called perfect batman film. To be honest it's crap!! The script is cringe worthy and even steals lines ("you made me") from Burtons Batman. The end of film fight sequence which pits Batman against a mystery villian (i won't spoil the surprise!!) Batman moans and groans like some sort of third rate wrestler (and to honest looks a little like one as well) And as for that villian, some things that work in the comics do NOT work in film. They become riduculous. Bottom line this film is fun sure and yes batman looks cool and god yes it's better than Schumachers films times a hundred, but no it is NOT batman as he was truly meant to be seen, it's certainly not better than Burtons or Warner's animated series. As for the another cinematic Batman, my money still on Nolan.

Instead of appreciating the short film of trying to make the batman character cool again and is more of a showcase you nerds bitch and moan. If you can do better with no budget then complain but since you can't THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP NOOBIES.

http://www.sajuta.org/batman_deadend_fanfilm.mov

How do you people think...give these guys a break. The film does a wonderful job portraying The Batman as a real person...if you got hit by the Predator wouldn't you grunt? Lets be real for a moment, in this world of make believe. Some of you are so drawn into this world you think it's for real. How could any human actor look like a comic book character? That's why we love these fictional characters so much, because no human can live up to this representation of who this person is. Lets all try to remember that this is all done for the fan and we may not all agree on the script, the characters, the acting, the direction...this is a really good film and a ton of work went into making it for all of you boneheads to sit around and tear apart. has anything ever been on this site that everyone agrees on? NO!

...whether you like or not: www.superherohype.com

Go to superheroype.com and watch the dang movie already. I did. It's cool, but not the big deal everyone is making it out to be. Too many big name "people" in it to be taken seriously.

...someone already posted this...sorry

Oh, wait...that's The Joker. Never mind.

You guys kill me...you bitch and moan about an unrealistic Bats for eons, then when you get something that somewhat resembles a Miller/Ross-eque look, you proceed to bitch about the pajama look. You complain about studios not knowing how to make it look like the Dark Knight Batman, then you shit all over this short, saying it looks "amateurish". I swear, if Pam Anderson gave you a free blowjob, you'd whine about her not tickling your balls enough. Why don't you guys try and do something better...thought so...fuckin' pimply teen fatass Siskel wanna-bes.

This is on Overnet. I downloaded it in 2 hours. Search overnet for batman, dead, end as search terms. This by the way is why overnet and its ilk should exist. Otherwise my last memory of Batman would be George Clooney as Batnippleman. Technically Arnie's character should have the nipple's because he is Dr. Freeze. AAAAAUGH!! MUST WATCH BATMAN:Dead End Again!!

Watched it a couple of times now... THE GOOD: A classic looking Batman - loved it! The Joker - whoa! Spooky, crazed, insane, and just EVIL! The asylum jacket was fabulous. Someone compared it to The Killing Joke version, which was dead on IMHO. Nice and dark with the music adding to the ominous tone. I thought the pacing was very well done. Batman leaping into the alley and landing in that oh-so classic hero stance and then the cut to him slowly rising in the alley with his cape ascending like some sort of shadow rising out of the concrete was fantastic and outright creepy. The scene in the alley was great, that was until... THE BAD: This movie had me hooked right up until the Alien showed up, choked the shit out of the Joker and then bolted up the building. The reaction from Batman was actually fairly well done. The fight with the alien was simply SILLY and became ever more SILLY with the fight against the Predator. The film up to just before the Alien showed up: 9/10 The film as the alien shows up: 2/10

http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/

If Pam Anderson gave me a blowjob I'd complain abot getting hepatitis. The truth is this movie is good. It's far from great and it does not, despite what some may say, suck. What I find funny is how it can only be extremes with you people. This is why Harry runs the site and we just talk back. Let's try and see some grey.

For those that want to see this, its up at theforce.net for download

someone must've been on a lot of crack when they came up with this.

Its like when you were at school and did something particularly cool, there was always someone, or a group of someones ready and waiting to jeer at you and put you down. The reason? They didn't and couldn't do that cool thing. Here we are with a short that is far superior to the last 2 hollywood Batman versions. I know its amatuerish in parts with stilted dialogue and wooden delivery, but hey!, they couldn't afford Christian Bale... Pimply Geeks, please be honest, when the Predator and friends turned up and the Predator overture played, you guys came all over your keyboards didn't you? Come on... you can tell me! Ha! Knew it!! Now, if you want to 'prove' yourselves, go write a short and film it..... Yeah, thought so. All mouth, no trousers........

Cool flick ... for all the nay sayers, I'm with shadoman on this in saying, if you don't like it, then do better. It was an indy for crying out loud ... everyone involved did a wonderful job.

What kind of creep makes crude gay comments to someone's daughter? Creeps like John Dinkeloo I guess... http://www.geocities.com/JDinkeloo/main.htm What does your wife have to say about that kind of behavior? (And yes, I prefer to remain anonymous too. Deal with it).

http://www.personal.psu.edu/jmm546/batman_deadend_fanfilm.mov

Why don't you just go and kill yourself or something?

For Gods sake can't you nit- picking bastards just appreciate whats being shown to you? "I dont like the narrative" or "He's in his underwear" get a grip arseheads! It's a pissing short film to throw out some ideas not a feature film and it hasn't cost us a penny to watch!

Good photography, good lighting. Nice locations and costumes, but beyond that, really- is it all anything clever? Don't want to write any spoilers, someone already did that for me...The characters introduced is an interesting surprise, but they just fight. There is no ending because there is no story, uh who wins? Do we really care so much? Is it trying to be humor, if it is, where is the punchline, like Darth Maul appears at the end or Godzilla's foot smashes the who bunch. Good cinematography but awful story, they'll do well as a director in American cinema where a studios just make new versions of old movies, old tv shows, make cartoons out of old movies or new movies out of old cartoons. And Batgrl, your fdad did a nice job for his role and would be a great candidate for a feature length Batman movie. You really should practice typing using legible grammar though and people will show you more respect.

That's the sound of this Talkback finally careening off the rails. Bang, crash, kaBOOM! It's officially a pissing match frome here on out.

I think William F. Buckley is hot! Can you get me a subscription deal to the National Review?

No -- she's too right wing -- even for the National fuckin' Review! I heard she once claimed that Dick Van Patten used to chase her around the "Eight is Enough" set, waving his "weapon of mass destruction" for all to see. Of course, the press was kinder about such private behavior back in those gilded days.

Or was that Betty WHITE -- telling tales about Ed Asner? Oh well, either way the weapon was there...and it was massively destructive.

Barry White and Dom Deluise! Damn, that could have made one hell of a team for a buddy flick. Two mismatched convicts escaping from a chain-gang -- their legs chained together. Hilarity -- and friendship -- ensues! Damn it Barry, you left us too soon.

http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/

I found the fan film (for those who never went to SDCC like me) is now online at theforce.net for download.

They better work on the Batman costume. That utility belt? The mask? Well... at least they have the Joker down. That is just plain fricking awesome.

They got the atmosphere of Batman right. It's on Kazaa now in MPG format!

Just a quick note to thank you for a fine performance as Batman. Considering the advantages the mainstream movies had in terms of budget and production your performance was still better than the lot of them. Please disregard the rude comments of some of the talkbackers here; it takes all sorts to make a talkback. Hope you had fun as the dark knight.

and you think The Matrix Reloaded sucks! This short was just OK. There's some good camera work here and I was impressed that they got the Alien and Predator costumes but after the initial appearance of the Alien, it loses its novelty. This is NOT the second coming of Batman, not even close, so don't fool yourselves... but it at least looked good.

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i FOUND THE ACTUAL FILM AT THE FORCE.NET http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend

I do a one hander when I log on to special websites. It keeps me happy you beeatches.

WWW.KAZAA.COM Ohhhh did I say kazaa? Yes I did! Just type in "batman deadend" and you will get it. Suck it moriarty.

I usually just sit back and read the talkback but...really...all the praise for this thing needs to stop.It looked good for a minute or two. As far as the "plot twist", this is the same kind of tactic any studio would use to sell more toys and distract you from the holes in the story.This thing needs to be put to bed.

Here its is folks to view or download> http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/

Well, I have seen the film. I don't know what all you fan-boys were creamin' your pants about. Yeah, Dead end was cool, but NOT this fantastic end-all, be-all vision of the Bat. SPOILERS BELOW, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED: First, Batman's costume was embarrassing. What was Bats going to? A pajama party? The leather cape and gloves, black boots, and rubber cowl were cool. But those elements were the thing that saved the costume from the cheesy sillines of the campy 60s Batman suit. The light-gray cloth, screen-printed symbol, and black "tighty whities" were ridiculous. This suit does avoid some of the heaviness and constriction of the Burton Bat suit, but it is ridiculous to think that Batman would put on a suit that not only makes him laughable but provides no protection (as evidenced by the slash across his midsection). Second, while Clark Bartram may be a fantastic physical build for Batman, his acting leaves something to be desired. When Batman tells Joker, "You're pathetic.", I cringed. I've got knews for you Clark, the delivery of that line was pathetic. Next, the Joker. While the physical look of the Joker was pulled off to a tee, the acting was even worse than Bartram's. When Joker whines about Batman not taking responsibility I said, "Boo-hoo." Joker came across as more of a whiny spoiled punk than a murderous psychotic. Last but not least, the inclusion of both the Predators and Aliens in the film. One of the primary criticisms of all the other Bat features is that they unnecessarily take away attention from the Bat. Well here is yet another exhibit of that problem. Throwing in just ONE predator would have been cool, but not mulitple predators and aliens. Don't believe the hype people. Especially from someone who is so excited he is popping blood vessels in his head. As an exhibition of this director's skills, it works. But the definitive version of the Batman on film IT IS NOT. The live-action Batman film that gets all the elements right still does not exist.

It's not supposed to have a story you pansy. It's 6 minutes of Batman-style action. Is Batman supposed to have tea and discuss the meaning of life now that we know that we're not alone with the Predator? There wasn't any time or budget(most likely) to do anything other than fight, so stop your nitpicking of a demo reel.

The suit is supposed to look like pajamas. It's a pull on, not body armor or new age chain mail. Get a grip and grow some testicles.

So what if there are multiple creatures? It was the very end of the goddamn short and it's called Dead End last time I heard, and it is clear that it refers to Bats death in the dead end alley. Get over it and get me a beer.

Real mature. I offer criticism, and some praise, for a film that so many are creamin' their pants over. You definitely fit that latter category. And "supposed" to be "pull-on" pajamas is your interpretation. In my view, a real Batman would combine the lightness and maneuverablility of the Dead End suit with the uni-tone coloring and armor of the Burton suit. This makes sense, given Batman's need to fight and yet still be protected against things like being slashed across the middle by the Predator's knives. The whole point of the "suits of armor room" in the first Burton Batman illustrates this. Batman is a warrior whose suit would serve both stylistic and functional purposes, armor protection being one. Not to mention the whole black "tighty whities" would make enemies laugh rather than tremble in fear. Here is an idea, instead of labeling people moron because they offer reasoned opinions in opposition to yours, engage your brain to think and then write a reply with reasoning instead of petty insults. And you cannot label a film the definitve version of Batman, when it features just as much on aliens and predators as it does the Bat.

this movie is pretty cool, its awesome when ???? and ???? appear and fight ????, then more cool shit happens, hope i havnt given too much away

that doesn't take away from the fact that that the director used what resources he had and used them to optimum effect. Elfman's, Horner's, and Silvestri's scores were well edited together, Boner made an excellent Joker, and the film editing was outstanding.

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well now since ive read spoilers already on this talkback, let me put in my two cents. I think the way this director pulled this stuff off on a non-hollywood type budget is very impressive. I do agree that the acting is a little silly and the addition of Predators and aliens comes off a bit ridiculous, but you cannot deny the passion of this director and how he feels he can try to rebuild the batman "Clooney-Blows" franchise. Its worth a shot isnt it?

I agree with everybody else that the film was fairly enjoyable until the characters started talking, but when the alien showed up it just turned uber dumb. And then the Predator shows up and proves that yes indeed the film could have gotten dumberer.****I say this in all serious, "The film would have been better with Hulk Hogan playing Bane. I got your cape and cowl right here brother." Seriously, if they wanted to impress somebody they should have had Bane and Bats beating the shit out of each other for 10 minutes instead of a damn Predator show up. Damn!

You have got to be shitting me! I wasted my time downloading this piece of shit? Okay, the first three minutes were great...until you see that alien head over the side of the building. Bat-fans...if you haven't seen this yet, don't waste your time. You can't get those remaining 4 minutes of your life back! If you MUST see it, turn it off once the Joker disappears! That having been said, Bats looked great. He looked like the Alex Ross Bats. Liked the Joker too. But that ending...what the fuck were they THINKING???

You can download and view the film on TFN's website at: http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/

...and that's Barry Manilow of course. But that guy in these pics looks good too whatever it is whever it is from.

Bravo! Great work. The Aliens/Predator thing is pretty much dumbass fanboy wetdreamin', but hey, it's their film, they can do what they want. By the way, Jon Peters leaves little croutons in public urinals and comes back later to gather them up for a light snack.

....over on TheForce.Net, and it absolutely rocks!!! Every other review I've read says it's the best interpretation of Batman ever caught on film and I agree 100%. Everything is here: the costume, the atmosphere, and the characterizations of Batman and the Joker are bang on. And the other "characters" were amazing to see. Bravo to whoever made this. The guys at Warner Bros. would do well to see this and learn from example.

They just posted this thing on TheForce.net! I just watched it and all I can say was 'What the HELL WAS THAT?' I won't spoil the 'surprises' but needless to say about 3 minutes in I was wondering what I was watching.... I though this was supposed to be a BATMAN short film. http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/ The costume design was good, but other than that.... ungh. The dialogue is pretty awful... as is the acting (what there is of it). I think that this is pretty far from the definitive film interpretation of Batman... although it was nice to see the grey and black costume. Yikes. I can't believe how hyped I got for this.... what a dissapointment.

be Educated before you criticize you FOOLS!!!

And I think that I expected too much.Don't get me wrong-it's cool.But it'll take a lot more than this to make The Perfect BATMAN movie.Having said that:This look blows all that WB shit out of the theater.Awww screw it-nobody reads this far down.

Yup. it is based on the comics of Batman vs. Predator and Batman vs. Aliens.

And if your name was Bob Kane that might mean something.

Even if Boner from "Growing Pains" was playing the Joker. Its very evident that a lot of people on this board don't know shit about Batman. Thanks to Father Geek for updating the details.

Hey ou there Fan-Boys. Now I know we all ahve been disgusted with the batch of pap Hollywood has served up in the name of Batman over the last decade or so. I couldn't agree more that we have yet to see a REAL,ass-kicking Batman movie. And, sadly we still havn't. Sandy Collora (who has burned a bridge everywhere he has ever worked in LA, and was fired from Stan Winston's), desperate to make some kind of entry into the Directing field has hashed together a laughable little ditty of such amateurish sensibilities I am astounded anyone had anything positive to say about it at all! Batman looks like the old Adam West suit with a rubber cape. The Joker is wearing my Grand mother's nighty and the staging, editing, acting, and dialogue is below the film school level. Only his experience in makeup effects allowed him to create a Joker Makeup that looks acceptable. Please people, in the name of good taste be REASONABLE!!!

Just because my name isn't Bob Kane doesn't mean I don't have something to contribute or a meaningful point. That Batman suit in Dead End was dangerously close to the campy 60s shit. The best Batman suit hasn't yet been done, just like the best Batman film hasn't been done. Try to offer a constructive opinion of your own instead of attacking me. You don't have to have a certain name to be right. Talk about arrogance.

Got it DLed tonight off ot Kazaa. Decent quality. Definitely worth my 20 minutes.

How is this a positive sign? It's a team up movie!! Like Aliens vs Predator wasn't bad enough, they had to add Batman into the mix. Guess they think Freddy vs Jason is going to be big so they are trying to rape Batman in the ass once again by cashing in on it. They should just do Batman vs Jason if they're going to do this. At least they're both owned by AOL. >> Jason stows away on a boat carrying some graduating teens as they cruise to Gotham! Jason dispatches the teens in order and washes up on the Gotham docks and proceeds to install his brand of justice upon the crackheads, rapists, ravers, hookers, hippies, democrats and anyone else who has sex or thinks about sex in Gotham. Batman feels Jason is making him look like a pussy so he plans to take him down. It's the feel good movie of the year!

Forget that bloated, overated epic, The Empire Strikes Back, check out Troops instead! Check this out, there are Stormtroopers patrolling Tatooine, and it's all done documentary style just like that show Cops!! Brilliant! And it's so much more realistic than any of the crappy George Lucas movies because it deals with real life issues like domestic abuse. The Troops are called to the Lars homestead after Owen smacks Beru up a little bit. This is serious drama folks. "The best visual representation of Star Wars I've seen to date" proclaims Star Wars artist Drew Struzan! "Finally I get to see MY version of Star Wars brought to life!" gleems AICN's Father Geek. It's unanimous, Troops is the greatest of them all!

Don't give us this shit, give us another Batman Movie directed by Tim Burton!

#1) The bat-suit looks primitive because it's supposed to. Take a look at the early comic books. Also, it's just like the Frank Miller Year One version. #2) The Joker's wearing a straight jacket, and looks just like he did before Hollywood ever got hold of him, yellow teeth and all. And I think the "joke" he referred to was the brass knuckles. #3) I understand the Bats-vs-Pred-vs-Alien does have a history in the comic books. Sure, it's a left turn. But no sillier than re-naming Catwoman's Selina Kyle to Patience Price. #4) It's only a short (~7 minutes?) How much story can YOU present in that amount of time? I think they got a lot done in a short amount of time. #5) Sure, there are some holes. But it shows a lot more faith to the source material then any of the other versions. It's the only one that hasn't "re-imagined" it somehow. (At least as far as Bats and Mr J go...) The hype I've seen appears mainly based on faithfullness to the source material versus the crap that Warner's have been cranking out. Warner's can't seem to just write the stories within the framework of the source material. They have to make changes and put their stamp on it. Which 9 times out of ten results in crap. #6) In the original comic book, Bruce Wayne was not a huge guy. That's part of the reason for the suit in the first place. No one was afraid of him. #7) Both main actors did a fine job. It's a comic book, for crying out loud! What were you looking for, Shakespeare? #8) As far as the suit realism complaints, the assumption of a very sophisiticated bat-suit assumes that it occurs in somewhere close to present day. There's nothing in there to suggest that it doesn't happen, say, in the 1940's sometime. No Kevlar back then. The suit itself is light cloth. In any martial art, mobility is everything. Body armor cuts down on speed and mobility. And to paraphrase Mr. Miyagi, the best defense is not to be there when the punch lands.

although I wouldn't mind seeing it myself when I have the time. But DAMN is it cool to see such a wide variaty of people go completly ape-shit over a work of fiction,... and other peoples opinion of that fiction. I happen to love Batman myself, have since I can remember.... but my enjoyment of that character ends when it makes me cyberscream the F word at compleat strangers. My rage and vulgarity wouldn't be wasted on trival things, there is more than enough things to hate people for beyond a comic book character. People who warrant a good dose of outrage for their actions. And I like to believe that could be metted out very effectively with a rolled up extra large Batman comic. Live Well, BRAD

I wonder if someone who only watches the Batman movies of the past 12 years or so but has never read a comic book calls themselves a 'Batman fan'? There are a lot of rumbling about this so-called 'pyjama suit' being shitty and impractical and comparisons to the Adam West suit. Personally I detest that pile of camp old bollocks, but the costume was closer to the comic in many ways than these WB movies! Anyway I just wanted to say that the costume is SUPPOSED to look like that! Bloody hell!

Yes, i downloaded this noirish ejaculation of fan-boy psyche, and it is fantastic. Utterly fantastic. To be honest, i don't see that the tone of the piece is all that far removed from Burton's second entry in the series. It certainly wouldn't cost too much to get from Batman Returns to Dead End in a taxi, anyhow. I didn't know anything about it before i saw it, other than Batman and the Joker have a punchup, so obviously the ending was quite a suprise. Or was that the second half? Y'see, herein lies the problem in comparing this to the features. It is a lot easier, as others have pointed out, to create a stunning eight minute montage of fight sequences and crowd-pleasing cameo appearances than it is to sustain such bravado for two hours. On another note, should the proposed ever-delayed Aronofsky opus get off the ground, then i would hope it will have something of the spirit of Dead End. Aronofsky, on quite a different matter, is surely one of the most over-rated directors in Hollywood. Pi was fantastic without a doubt, but Requiem For A Dream was turgid, shallow, empty Movie-Of-The-Week puss. Anyhow, i have no more to say on the matter, and while masturbate towards oblivion for the remainder of the evening.

Another fan-based film (besides "Batman: Dead End") premiered at the film festival called, "The Death of Batman." I actually played the Dark Knight himself. Although our little $5,000 movie didn't compare to "Dead End" in terms of art direction and cinematography, it was much more interesting from a narrative standpoint, in my opinion. If anybody would like a free DVD, contact me at chris@highspeedla.com. I'd be happy to send you one. Also, you can check out the trailer at www.christopherstapleton.net. Click on the "Latest News" link.

Look, noone's going to read this talkback anymore given how far down it is, but your attacking anyone who was a criticism about this short film is getting tired. You already sound like a major plant, if not the director himself or his mom. Just relax, people are gonna have good and bad things to say. If you are the director, you're gonna need to learn to take criticism. I liked the film, and have also posted about how hypercritical people here need to relax, but you need to give it a rest....

Sure it looks kind of cool, but come on! Predator and Alien? What the hell? What's next Freddy meets Jason? Oh wait...

Here is the link: http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/ The movie is very cool and Batman gets his ass kicked...

http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/batman_deadend/

Production values - good. Faithfulness in spirit to source material - good. Casting - good. Premise of film - what the hell?!

I hadn't read any of the spoilers to the movie so when i saw the twist my jaw completely dropped. The Aliens looked like garbage, which is theoretically ok because it was a low-budget indy film. While the Predator costumes were real, they still acted like shit, because again, there's not much you can do on a low-budget indy fan pic. Now, as for Batman, the guy looked alright but i almost diarhea-ed after I saw his really crappy costume. Again, low-budget movie (and if that wasn't the reason then Sandy Cofax or whatever was obviously not trying hard enough). The Joker and their little talk made me vomit in rage. I doubt anyone will be able to do it as well as Jack or Mark, and anyone saying that Chekov's kid could do it better or just as well doesn't get out enough. So whatever, what can you do, it's done. As much as he's the detective I've always thought of ol' Batsy as much more martial artsy and was pretty dissappointed by the Predator-Bat fight. But again low-budget, and I already said that the whole thing was pretty lame-o, even though I enjoyed the first AvB comics-mini-series. The only good part was him standing after the jump off the building, that was savage.

so stupid !

This was the lamest thing I've ever seen. The Joker and batman were cool until the other assmunches showed up...You've got to be fucking kidding me...that sucked severe and supreme ass.....losers!

C'mon fanboys! I've seen this little 'short' film now and I can't believe I got suckered into the download time by all this hype. Aside from the Hollywood costumes this guy pulled strings to obtain, this thing is a little slice of amateurish absurdity! The editing is terrible, the imagery and dialogue are tired and worn out, and the sudden appearance of Aliens and Predators just leave one scratching one's head. Why didn't Godzilla'a giant foot come plunging down into frame to really put a cap on this??? Yeeeeesh!!!!

for all those who bashed it. what film have you made? what talent do you have other than popping your zits with your compass. thought so.

yeah if yall had read the comic you would know that batman actuall fought preaditors and aliens at one point during the comic series so did superman i think. S quit saying that it was dumb that they had them in the film i thought this was a really kick ass short. At least it didnt have neon lights everywhere. You know batmans called "the dark knight" for a reason. as for the outfit i think its cool its not all hollywood. if yall read the comic yall would see that his costme look exactly like that he dosen't wear black rubber. well thats my 2 cents

I love this thing for what it is, a short fan film that had a more serious tone and came closer to the comics than any piece of shit that Hollywood has put out. I mean come on nipples on the bat costume and molded camel toe on bat girl and bat ice skates. Given a budget and a good script this guy could have outdone any bat-director including Tim Burton hands down. I would rather watch these 10min then any one of those pieces of bat shit Hollywood put out any day. Anybody who says any of the bat films put out to date where anything other than pure shit either does not know comics or is just a fan of bad film.

I love this thing for what it is, a short fan film that had a more serious tone and came closer to the comics than any piece of shit that Hollywood has put out. I mean come on nipples on the bat costume and molded camel toe on bat girl and bat ice skates. Given a budget and a good script this guy could have outdone any bat-director including Tim Burton hands down. I would rather watch these 10min then any one of those pieces of bat shit Hollywood put out any day. Anybody who says any of the bat films put out to date where anything other than pure shit either does not know comics or is just a fan of bad film.

I am the last person to post to this. Woooooo Whooooo!

This is great!! How and where can I download this movie?????