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So is KILL BILL really going to be 2 movies this Fall'
Hey folks, Harry here... I've been getting tons of email regarding a story that has appeared on Entertainment Weekly's website regarding Quentin Tarantino's KILL BILL being divided into two films for release this Fall.
Well, that's what David Carradine said quite some time ago and was denied by all involved at the time. Well, apparently it is under serious consideration. I'm hearing that Quentin is wanting it to come out as KILL BILL Volume 1 and KILL BILL Volume 2, as he has completely thought of this as being a cinematic book in many ways.
So what's the lowdown? I hear that no matter what we'll be getting a Quentin Tarantino film released on OCTOBER 10th, and I hear that some time after that we'll probably be getting another one. What's interesting about this for me is that as far as I know, this is the first time that a major Hollywood film has done this since CLEOPATRA, however... Stephen Chow did this back in 1994 with the amazing CHINESE ODYSSEY and CHINESE ODYSSEY PART TWO --- You really must get your hands on those two.
When will we get official news on this? I'm not sure... there's a big KILL BILL thingee happening at San Diego Comic Con this coming weekend and if there's a chance of it breaking officially, that's probably where it will get unleashed. No matter what, I'm happy as can be, because this means we're not going to get some insanely truncated version of the film in theaters and two it means we won't have to buy Depends either. I just wonder if he'll leave us at a cliffhanger or if he's re-working things a bit to provide an easy exit and a great opening for a second film... Wish I read Chinese or Japanese characters... that's the only format I have for the two copies of the shooting script I have. Want to read the SUPERMAN speech dammit! Want to read Sam Jackson's dialogue in the church! Can't Wait... Any... Longer... Must... See... Movie... Now!
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Jul 11, 2003 6:47:24 PM CDT
Uh...the W. Bros are already doing something like this...Matrix
by aceattorney
Nothing new here folks...
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Has Tarantino ever heard of an editor? Could've used one for JACKIE BROWN.
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Jul 11, 2003 6:51:47 PM CDT
oh no, Tarantino couldn't possibly be using a mainstream gimmick
by gideon_s
What a poseur. First he remakes "City on Fire" with no credit to the original, then he adopts a "suburban gangsta" persona, now he's hopping aboard the "to be continued..." train. What's next, a line of action figures? Oh, too late...
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Look, I would rather have a three-hour film than wait around for two, hour and a half films. It's basically set up like this: Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. While Pulp was grand at three hours, Dogs was grand at an hour and a half. Either ay, lets just hope Miramax lets the decision fall into the hands of Tarantino.
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As long as both of them are like 2, 2.5 hours so it makes one big epic. Of course, I'd be willing to sit through a 4 hour movie like this...
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This is original?
Just put it out and have an intermission like they used to do during long ass movies. If it's just a way to bilk people for more money - forget it. -
I can't wait to see KILL BILL. It's gonna rock! I just don't want to have to pay twice as much to see it. I'd rather hunker down for one long flick. Like you care what I think. :)
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I'd gladly wait an extra month to see the complete un-edited version of Kill Bill that Tarantino envisioned, yes, even if I have to py an extra $5, and yes, even if a few jackasses start to think Tarantino has "gone mainstream".
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Jul 11, 2003 7:16:05 PM CDT
Although October 10th is usually a hexed date, if Miramax's mark
by el duderino
I believe that's three full weeks that Kill Bill could be number one! Sure, for the past four years no film has prospered that fell around the 9th, 10th or 11th of October (Fight Club, From Hell, EVERYTHING released last year on the 10th), but luckily I have a strong enough faith in audiences to REJECT The Whole Ten Yards in favor of Kill Bill. There's no way in hell that a sequel to a bland comedy whose name makes absolutely no damn sense can overtake good ol' Quentin Chop Sockey. 1 film, 2 films? No difference. The first volume will thrive for those three weeks, there's no competition to fight it off! Just check out Dark Horizons release list (not quite up-to-date, but close enough, sans the Whole Ten Yards move to 10-10-03) and see if any of those titles looks like they can hold off Kill Bill. Hell, it doesn't even matter if Kill Bill is even a GREAT FLICK! The film will still kick ass three weeks after opening!
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... be it in one part, or two.
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Jul 11, 2003 7:29:15 PM CDT
Has Kill Bill been facing a troubled production? Is this Quentin
by el duderino
All this talk about massive reshoots, drastic revisions, and being pulled from Cannes... here's hoping things are going hunky dori (sp?) over by Quentin's neck of the woods. I still can't believe today's news blip... can anyone just split their film into two pieces without massively screwing the structure of both stories? Perhaps that's what the reshoots were for... anywho, I think it is time that Harry picked up the receiver for his special white phone that can reach Quentin at any time, any place, just so he can confirm with Mr. Gecko himself... (sorry for all the ellipses...)
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...is hacked in two. Fitting.
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but i won't admit that the trailer looks cool, because it doesn't. it looks fucking stupid. aside from the actors, i can barely tell it apart from charlies angels 2. the action just looks fucking cheesy, and the "you didn't think it was going to be easy" line is straight out of bad boys, i swear.
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Jul 11, 2003 7:40:57 PM CDT
Speaking of Matrix Revolutions, what all is going on with that p
by el duderino
I think everybody who took part in Reloaded felt shat upon, and continue to feel shat upon, after the fairly large group of people who left theaters disappointed on May 15th. I wonder how this has impacted post-production for the next film. Has the main site revealed anything else about the plot to the upcoming film, etc? I'm pretty certain that zero-g fighting is in it, and perhaps that's the action centerpiece that cost 40 million alone to shoot. Other than that, is anything matrix related coming out between now and then? God, it seems like there was such a huge saturation of matrix-related crap in May and June, but it's completely died down now. No more games, tie-ins, etc?
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Jul 11, 2003 7:57:45 PM CDT
Who cares?/it's ROLLERBOOGIE part 1 and SWITCHBLADE SISTERS part
by watashiwadare
just watched Miike's Graveyard of Honor-- excellent remake, a real yakuza flic by a real Japanese director not some american fanboy who will give us his fantasy stereotypes of turning japanese.
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Doesn't anybody use guns in the movies anymore?
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Jul 11, 2003 8:27:29 PM CDT
use the 'intermission' break... and "KB will own your asses"...
by motutoo
You heard it here, uh, probably 52nd...
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Why does this fuck put his name in post like someone gives a shit about him posting?
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PLEASE no more KARATE ass crap in movies! I can't take it! I didn't realize this until I saw The Craptrix Repacked, but coming out of the theater, I was like, what the shit? All those karatee punches and no one gets hurt? It leaves the feeling that I'd be OK taking a bunch of Neo kicks to the face and be OK. So now KB is going to kick everyone silly, toss people out windows, slice them up, and you know you won't really care. The Hulk vs. dogs, now that was some serious ass-kicking! Good ole' vicious street fighting! And Arnie vs. the woman in the bathroom? Baboom!! Give me some more of that. Stick the karatee in your potty.
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Why Harry puts up with this quiff hyping his homespun dingleberry of a site is beyond me. As far as Kill Bill being split into two movies, who cares as long as even one of them is halfway decent.
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two movies equals two paychecks...why can't they just release a three and a half hour movie with a fifteen minute intermission like they did in the old days...why? because then they can't rape your wallet with two seperate screenings...its all about the money and that's just sad. Get a fucking editor so Kill Bill dosen't become a $24 experience
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Jul 11, 2003 9:30:04 PM CDT
Great. You mention Cleopatra, so now I guess Liz will be dead wi
by fred
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Jul 11, 2003 9:45:58 PM CDT
1988's LITTLE DORRIT (one of Alec Guinness' last films) was spli
by frankdrebin
You bought one ticket and saw the first half. Then you could see the second half the same night, or come back some other night...Didn't see it...Wasn't based on a comic book...
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As I read in EW,the scipt is 197 pages.That doesn't mean the film will be 197 minutes(or just over 3 hours)long.A short action sequence could take up pages.And I imagine QT is pretty fucking descriptive.QT could go the LOTR route and put a longer version on DVD.Though I doubt that that would be his first choice.Hell,I don't know the guy.If Harry's so chummy with him,why doesn't he know?Aw screw it.I'll see it either way.But I'd rather see it all at once.
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and his last two films were both masterpieces. I don't expect KILL BILL to be a masterpiece because it's silly to go into a film, any film, with that expectation, but I do expect something great and I believe we will get that, if you're into these types of movies. Is this his APOCALYPSE NOW? If that means it's going to be great, bring it on--now! I would actually rather pay to see it once, then come back and see the super extended version, then having to wait for the dvd, where they sell a "theatrical cut" or "uncut" because that's just dirty to me. My idea is that KILL BILL is going to have problems with the MPAA, and releasing an "unrated" version in theatres could be the answer, but I do not know because he did shoot over 500,000 feet of film....
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i know it's off topic, but i've been wondering if there was a site like this one that
was more music oriented...
particularly the talkback forum
which is always a blast...
suggestions from anyone other
than LewisBlack would be appreciated....
ribbit -
Shot as one film in 1973. Edited into two films released in 74 and 75.
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This is EXACTLY what happened with Richard Lester's Musketeer films and those were pretty solid. I think the films should be called 1) LOOKING FOR BILL and 2) KILLING BILL or 1) WHERE"S BILL? and 2) I FOUND THAT BITCH, NOW I'M GONNA KILL HIS ASS! If they're breaking this into 2 films, imagine how many films they'll break QT's war epic into. Four? Five? As some kind of insane gimmick, I think some theatres should secretly play volume 1 and 2 together on opening night to blow people's minds. And, to keep Harry happy, they can pass out Depends at the door.
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Jul 12, 2003 1:55:29 AM CDT
After having actually seen both City on Fire and Reservoir Dogs.
by jtylor
I just have to say that while City on Fire provided a basic gimmick (and a variation of the showdown at the end, which is standard John Woo/Ringo Lam/Tsui Hark fare), THEY ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MOVIES! Tarantino did a genius riff on the basic City on Fire plot (which is a good film in it's own right, though not Reservoir Dogs' good). See the fuckin' movie before you spout off on something you heard about as if you're an authority.
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Jul 12, 2003 2:54:56 AM CDT
The reason for 2 films is cuz QT needs more time to add the CGI
by jules windex
Frankly, if they went ahead and released 2 films, I'd be fine with it, as long as the story was deserving of being spread across 2 films. Matrix Reloaded didn't even have enough going on to warrant HALF a film, let alone a 2 hour+ one. But you realease 2 films, you can get twice the money.
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Matrix, StarWars, LOTR...c
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and nobody gives a flying fuck about your opinion. But on the other hand, since you've started putting your name in the subject of your posts I know which ones to avoid so I don't have to read your shit any more. Oh and just in case you didn't get it the first time, your site sucks.
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actually, I think it's kinda catchy that Harry posted this today, because all we have right now, are rumors and bullshit talks.... there is no official word about splitting Kill Bill, so why even run a news article about it?
Actually, no true fan believes in a 2-parter, and neither does Q.T., I mean, come on that man is a movie geek, and not a Jerry Fuckhead Bruckheimer!!
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The T man can do whatever the hell he want's to do. HE'S THE FUCKING T MAN!!!!! He can shoot 3 hours of UMA scratchin her ass and I'm still in that theatre baby!!!! UMA scratchin ass volume1! UMA scratchin ass Volume2!! PAY these miserable wretches no mind Quentin!! "I hope he ends the first movie in a pleasantly satisfying spot so it can be called a seperate film in it's own write" FUCK EM, I HOPE he cuts the first film when UMA's in mid sword stroke! That'll send you pansies waddlin home to commit suicide. Leaving me alone, with my film. And just like "reloaded", I can enjoy it all. by. myself. ************************************ Melvin Udall (As Good As It Gets):
"I think most people miss that
about you and I watch wondering
how they can watch you bring them
food and clear their dishes and
never get that they have just met
the greatest woman alive... And
the fact that I get it makes me
feel great... about me!
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Jul 12, 2003 4:52:14 PM CDT
APPARENTLY, QT HAS FALLEN UNDER THE SPELL OF LARRY WACHOWSKI'S D
by goon bighead
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As the certain surfeit of (delectable) violence over the course of one long movie would almost certainly get it slapped with an NC-17, maybe Quentin call pull off two R's by splitting it in two. That'd be worth it.
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Maybe it's because I've been seeing the name pop up on this website so many times for so long, I've had enough of it already and it isn't even finished.
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I could be wrong, but my understanding was that "Cleopatra" was *not* split into two films, although it was toyed with as an idea for a while to break it up into a "Caesar & Cleopatra" film and a "Antony & Cleopatra" follow-up, but this idea was rejected as everyone began to understand that the film moviegoers most wanted to see was the second one, due to the infamous affair on the set Elizabeth Taylor was having with her Marc Antony, Richard Burton. Just my two cents...
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i'll take jackie chan over jackie brown any time.
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sucked ass. Both parts. Kill Bill will rock. Hopefully, both parts.
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stop licking this films arse !
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Jul 13, 2003 8:32:23 AM CDT
Do you really think anyone believes any of you that claim to lik
by jasondkeldar
As for the ones who call him a hack and in the same breath lionize the Wachowskis, well in another post in another talkback I mentioned the word irony. This movie will be at worst decent, at best Pul Fiction meets John Woo meets Crouching Tiget Ang Lee. Frustrating to know that several of the posters on this site have never seen any of these movies except on their puter since they are too young to rent the vids or be admitted to the theater. Unfortunately that frustration leads tthem to vent most offensively about things they just have not got the reference-base to like. I think why Quentin alienates some fans, as does Kevin Smith, is the pop-culture-reference-junkie style of writing and direction they both idulge in. I have relatives, male and female, who are younger enough than me to have the gap that makes them not get some of the references, so I can imagine what a 12-15 year old would feeel waching these films, of either director but moreso with Quentin's work.
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Jul 13, 2003 8:46:30 AM CDT
HMMMMMM, ONE COOL FAST MOVING FILM.... OR 2 SLOW BORING FILMS. I
by theginger twit
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Jul 13, 2003 1:57:50 PM CDT
So the Lewis Black fightback has begun. I'm only surprised it to
by earthworm
Anyway, so what, if it wasn't for chubby virgins shamelessly self promoting their primatively coded websites we wouldn't all be here today would we? ;-) No my only problem with him is the RE Subject line bullshit, but I suppose its effective marketing. Anyway, good luck to him. RE Kill Bill, this doesn't seem to be particularly well thought out, which is worrying. Surely QT must have known roughly how long his film would be from the script etc. This seems to be kind of on the fly film making. Still, worked for Casablanca. Anyhow, why not just do an extended DVD a la LOTR?
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I think it was more a creation of creative journalisum as i believe a comment from David Carradine along the lines of the T Man having shot enough footage to make it two films being interpreted as HEY KILL BILL is going to be TWO films you know what the reporters are like wanna make a name for themselves. Have to say i think it will be a great film and having read the script i think alot of film fans are going to have and early xmas present. if it's half as good as it felt reading it then it will be a legend of epic proportion. The T Man rules.
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If you knew anything you'd know that Guns n Roses out out 2 albums because the record company wouldn't release that many songs at a regular price. So they demanded they release 2 albums so that kids could split the cost and record the albums for each other. This was before Metallica's bitching about Napster and artists gave a shit about their fans.
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Axl rose does not care about his fan. He is just as greedy as all of the other rock stars.
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Jul 14, 2003 2:07:13 AM CDT
I`m so fed-up with goddamn Wire-fu right now or women that think
by chien_sale
Tarantino is very low to be doing this. In a way, he`s behind the times. The woman in him wanted to do it because you know Quentin is an homosexual and takes no pleasure penetrating a chick. His brother told me so. In short, Kill Bill=Feminist crap.
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Quentin-
Don't f*ck with me-
Jackie Brown, co-producing shitty sequels, and then nothing DO NOT GO MATRIX RELOADED/REVOLUTIONS ON ME!!!!
I WANT IT ALL AT ONCE!!!
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The only question I want to know about Kill Bill is how much VIOLENCE this film will have, will Quentin become part of the Hollywood made guys when he cops out and makes a Speilbergian non-violent violent fim ala Saving Private Parts or will he maintain his Peckinpahs and join a select few who don't care if blood and gore are frowned on by the guys in government who don't like movies about mad guys killing with no moral outcome but launch wars themselves everyday of the week??? Quentin will reveal to us the real Quentin on that October day......... I can't wait, shite.
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Jul 14, 2003 9:28:53 AM CDT
I love the willingness of people to judge movies before they see
by pumpymcass
We all know what Tarantino is capable of so who are we to say that this won't be more of the same greatness he has given us in the past? If you really DO love movies, you will fork over 20 bucks to see the pair because we all know that a new QT release is an EVENT! Here's to hoping. Kill fucking Bill, The Bride. Fucking murder his ass.
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......they just don't look like women.
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First, Director Joesph Manckiewicz wrote a book, "My Life with Cleopatra," in which he chronicled every twist and turn of his involvement with that film, which he suggested nearly sank 20th Century Fox. "Cleopatra" was his vision, painstakingly accurate in its artistic detail, to the point that the kindest of reviews called it a beautiful bore. It was planned as a film with an intermission like many other "big" films (e.g. Dr. Zhivago) that sought to match the success of the long-form "Gone With The Wind" film classic. If it had been made into two separate movies, it might have had a chance of recouping its $40 million price tag, but such a split was never even considered. Richard Lester got into hot water for signing a stellar cast to his Musketeer "project," which turned out to be two films instead of the one film that the stars thought they had agreed to make. In a world where three films based on the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, as well as two "Matrix" sequels, were recently filmed back-to-back, it may not be necessary to fish back to the seventies or sixties for precedents. But it would be interesting to see how splitting the film into two movies would affect such production costs as cast salaries if everyone only signed onboard to make a single movie, rather than a slyly defined "project" as in the case of Lester's Musketeer case. The Rings cast and Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions crew knew up front that they were making multiple films. If the film is split without added financial incentive for its stars, they may try to change the name of the sequel to "Kill Quentin" before all the legal smoke settles. Of course, they could always release an abridged version and save the extended version for that platinum extended gift DVD set to be released later!
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