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UPDATED AGAIN! Confirmed B.S.!!! UPDATED!! Spielberg off of INDY IV'
Harry here... Just got it confirmed that Sean Connery as Empire quoted him, doesn't really know what he's talking about. Steven Spielberg will be directing the 4th Chapter of the Indiana Jones series beginning filming Summer of 2004.
Hey, everybody. "Moriarty" here with an update on the story below...
Frank Darabont's a frustrating man. He's generous to his friends, incredibly personable, and when it comes to his work on something like INDY 4, he maintains total silence. Go ahead. Ask him about it. He'll just smile and get this look on his face that dares you to get more information out of him.
As a result, I have no idea what the title of INDY 4 will be, or what they're chasing, or... well... anything. However, he did recently mention that when he turned in the first draft of INDY 4, it was the first time Spielberg officially signed on to direct a film based on a first draft since the original RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK.
So... if I was a betting man, I'd say Connery either heard things wrong or they misquoted him. Spielberg's sitting in the director's seat for this one. I'm guessing they will start shooting as soon as TERMINAL hits post-production so that they can make that summer 2005 date.
Anyway... here's the story from this morning...
Hey folks, Harry here... Would you be interested in an Indiana Jones film that wasn't directed by Steven Spielberg? Interesting question, one I hadn't seriously considered before. Me? I don't know, I'm a part of that strange minority that prefers the 3rd Jurassic Park to both of Spielberg's outings. I am fond of all three of his Indiana Jones films, but definitely felt the 3rd one had a lack of inspiration in terms of imagination and creativity... though I like the film quite a bit just for Connery and Ford's relationship... So, if this rumor from Connery is to be believed, combined with other information we have... it boils down like this.
Darabont turns in his script for the 4th INDIANA JONES adventure. Word is all three principles like it. Then today we learn that according to Connery, the film will be going forward, but without Spielberg as director. So does this mean that George Lucas will direct after he finishes EPISODE 3? Will the screenwriter, Frank Darabont take over direction? Will Spielberg turn to Joe Johnston, who took over the reigns from Steven on the third Jurassic Park? Will David Lynch or David Cronenberg take over as Director? I'm working on finding out at the moment, I'll let you know what I hear. Here ya go...
Hi Harry,
Apparently Sean Connery has said in an interview "Shteven Shpielberg hash
pashed on Directing the nextsh Indiana Jonesh movie" or shomething shimilar.
So the beard may have blown out Indy, but Harrison Ford & Mr Connery are
still interested. No doubt because neither of them have had a hit for
approximately 15 millenia.
Saw this on Empire Online.
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St. Sean not having any recent hits? What about that one where he played the old Scottish guy?
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Yes Harry, you'd have to be a part of a very very small minority to think Jurassic Park 3 is better than the first. It's your own opinion mind you, but come on, the 3rd was a pile of shit that would of been the worst film of that year have it not been for Burton's crapfest Planet of the Apes.
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Let this absolutely perfect series stand on it's previous merits. Don't ruin it like Star Wars has been ruined. Please.
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I agree Harry, Last Crusade wasn't up to snuff; Abbot and Costello Meet Indy Jones, if you ask me. I think any new segment to Indy Jones needs some new blood. I wouldn't mind seeing Darabont, or M. Night taking a crack at this. Maybe Fincher, or dare I say, even Chris Columbus.
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lemmme see.....if Harrison eventually bales on Indy 4, does that mean we get Ben Affleck in there? Yikes!
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Jul 02, 2003 10:08:35 AM CDT
I'd be surprised - Spielberg, Lucas and Ford are like a boys' cl
by larry_talbot
I can't imagine who could take over. Indy films are Spielberg films.
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Jul 02, 2003 10:10:20 AM CDT
The only way this can proceed without the fanboys breaking out t
by chastain-86
Or, perhaps, Peter Jackson. But I only said that to get the LOTR and SW contingents fighting again. Ain't I a stinker?
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Jul 02, 2003 10:10:38 AM CDT
Indiana Jones without Speilberg would be like Star Wars without
by kage
...hold on a tick!
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After all these years? They should have made a 4th one years ago.
I have watched every other series that was at its height in the 80's brought down, so I guess why not this one too, huh? -
Darabont would be cool, no thanks to Lucas.
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those 3 are GREAT, don
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Jul 02, 2003 10:18:10 AM CDT
There's always been a little clique of directors that I've felt
by terry_1978
Steven Spielberg, Tim Burton, Robert Zemeckis, Joe Dante, George Lucas, Ivan Reitman, etc. These are the ones you call for those fantasy genre flicks(with Reitman being a bit iffy though). I don't want Spielberg to pass personally, but if he must, there are others that would be more than willing, you gotta admit.
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We need a sequel to Dreamscape or a 4th It's Alive.
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What the fuck are you on, Harry? What sort of smack do you imbibe on a regular basis? JP3 better than JP1?? WHAT THE FUCK???!!!!! A film with no ending better than JP1?!! That's it. I'm spent. I can't take your utterly fucked-up opinion on films ANY MORE. The Phantom Man-Ass. Clones. Godzilla. Armageddon. I'm looking forward to finding out what Warner Bros did to you to deserve the juvenile Reloaded bashing which continues to this fucking day, 7 weeks or so after release. For a film-lover...man, you just confuse the fuck out of me. And I'll say it again - we don't need Indy 4. We don't need a geriatric Indy gasping and puffing as he runs around cracking gags about being 'too old for this shit'...LET HIM BE. He is immortal, agelss, frozen in '89 - we don;t fucking need to see this character stripped of his vitality, his energy, his strength - LEAVE IT THE FUCK ALONE!
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Jul 02, 2003 10:35:39 AM CDT
Could Ford's latest B.O. failure have anything to do with this?
by kage
Seeing as how Hollywood Homicide was more or less DOA, did Speilberg pass because Ford is no longer a guaranteed blockbuster-maker?
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Raiders of the Lost Ark is a perfect movie. Temple Of Doom is a stoopid cartoon. What the hell with that raft falling out of a plane? It was dumb. the third one was even worse. Now every character has to be a side-kick? And the crappy cg sawblades? When Indy replaces the Idol with a sandbag but it doesn't quite work, and then the place caves-in and poison darts shoot out and the giant boulder neraly crushes him . that was awesome. and I believed it. those ridiculous saw blades in Indy 3? Wha?? i saw the third one once at the theatre and have never needed to see it again. I'm bummed that these films aren't going to be released individually on DVD because I'm not buying 2 crappy films just to get Raiders. I mean, Indiana Jones and the Raiders...
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It's easy... Positivily polarize George Lucas. Negatively polarize the directors chair. Let them repel each other until the end of TIME!
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My faith that a fourth Indiana Jones film will be good after all this time is guarded as it is. Without Senior Spielbergo, there is no fucking way I believe this will be good. Spielberg MUST make the movie. DO NOT MAKE IT WITHOUT HIM!!
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John C. Reilly and Luiz Guzman can play the bad guys. ... Julianne Moore can play the rival college professor and eventual love interest ... Everyone can sing along to a Fiona Apple song before the rousing finale. ... and, in an apocalyptic ending, it rains for 40 days and 40 night and Indy escapes in Noah's Ark, which is full of frogs and harmoniums.
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It was a dumb movie. Indy 3 - even more generic dumb movie. Lay the franchise to rest - even Harrison Ford is getting too old for this kind of nonshense.
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Then Paramount had better scoop up McG for this...thing of the energy he'll bring to the franchise.
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Spielberg's said several times over HE would be directing this. Lucas has also has said several time the same thing. It's probably Connery either being misinformed or "Cheeky" for the geek fest that is the Net!
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Bring on McG! or Ratner,,,,And thus, I am completely shitfaced! - - - George The 7th Chicken!!!!
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I would have agreed with those that would not want Speilberg until I saw "Catch Me If You Can". That showed that he can still do a fun knoackabout romp if he let's himself.
Opening scene: Indy and Dr Jones Snr go looking for the biscuit caddy in their retirement home, battling various nazi-type ward sister en route. -
Indy without Spielberg? Possibly with Lucas? This is far too crazy to consider.
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We'd have an exciting Indy adventure again, updated for the 21st century...slick and cool.
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As much as I have faith in Frank Darabont coming up with a good script, without The Bearded Genius this will feel like the soul's been ripped from it. Don't let Lucas get his toy advert hands on it, we've already seen how much (or is that little) respect and integrity he has with regards to his own creations. I don't want to see what a merchandising-tie-in mess he can make of this. As far as the P.T. Anderson suggestion goes, hell, Harrison Ford might not be physically capable of anything more than a meandering, character-based outing.....
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They'll probably ask Michael Bay to direct.
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So all of them waited this many years just so some other director could step in and make this flick? No way, no how. Ain't gonna happen without Spielberg at the helm. I think Spielberg even said so in an interview.
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He has experience of taking over a franchise from Speilberg, as well as having directed several of the 'young indiana joneses'. And Hidalgo is looking very indiana jonesish!!!
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keep lynch away. he already fucked up the adaptation of my favorite sci fi book of all time.
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Jul 02, 2003 11:44:51 AM CDT
Indy 4 without Spielberg? what's next, a Terminator movie withou
by grandocariissian
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Hmmmm, that's a new one on me. I've heard it referred to as Box, Cooter, Fud, Gash, Piss Flaps, and Grunt...but Bearded Genius is a new one for me. I'll add that to my extensive vaginal vernacular.
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Talkin bout JP3 here. One and two were just boooooring. Besides the FX JP 1+2 had nuffin to offer ... nuffin! Not even a decent direction by Spielberg. JP3 on the other hand was very well paced and not even tried to be deep. Just 85 min of pure dino fun. Seems to me the Beard has lost IT after Pvt. Ryan. His movies do not really connect with the audience since the late 90s, so a younger and more edgy director isn't such a bad idea after all. McG? Why not?
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I could actually see Steven not doing the next Indy flick and instead just produce while he films Tin Tin or Memoirs of a Geisha. I actually hope Frank Darabont does it because for those few people who saw the Majestic saw the b movie Indy type film with Bruce Campbell and that was the only good part of the movie. If Lucas directs it'll be the end of the world.
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Jul 02, 2003 11:59:53 AM CDT
Jurassic Park III better that either of Spielberg's????
by jabbathenutt
WHAT? That movie was total shit. It was a Paul Anderson wanna-be flick. My main memory from that film is sitting in the theatre laughing at how atrociously bad it was. Anyone who thinks that was better than the first JP, i will take their film opinions with a grain of salt.
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Jul 02, 2003 12:01:56 PM CDT
We didn't WAIT ALL THIS TIME just to have Spielberg not direct i
by drath
I know I already sounded off, but I can't believe this shit news. I thought the whole reason we had to wait this long for a fourth film was so all three guys (SS, HF, and GL) could be involved! If we have to choose between settling for 2 out of 3 or nothing at all, I think most of us will take nothing at all, thankyouverymuch.
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JP3 over the other 2? JP3 may as well been a slasher flick. And Last Crusade somehow NOT better than Temple of Doom? Christ in a handbasket! Harry's a friggin' nutbar!
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Jul 02, 2003 12:20:31 PM CDT
"I am fond of all three of his Indiana Jones films, but definite
by tarl_cabot
I agree Harry, Indy 3 felt very contrived. The tank chase, Nazis, the Holy Grail...it was all a wanna be 'Raiders'-no creativity whatsover. Raiders was the best by far but at least 'Temple' had balls. I don't care to see senior citizen Ford play Indy again. Enough of Harrison Ford! His career and his finger of doom are a joke now...He's too fucking old anyway!
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deep down, i just don't feel like this movie will ever happen. it seems like a bunch of 60 something men sitting around reminiscing about the glory days, except that they're doing it in the press, or the press keeps asking them about it. Other than Ford, who could use a hit (though at his age, why he cares anymore is beyond me), nobody really needs to walk this ground again. I just don't see rich men going through all this for the money, or for aul lang syne.
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In the immortal words of Nancy Kerrigan "Whyyyyyy........!!" Just add a talking CG camel named Jar Jar Humps and give Indy a super soaker pistol and a jumprope for a whip, just to make it more marketable towards the wee-ones. You could call it IJ4, Raiders of the Lost AARP. 'nuff said
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Jul 02, 2003 12:29:29 PM CDT
Now, if in JP3 they shot the pterydons out of the air with the N
by postwood
But JP never went where it should have. Kill them, kill them, kill them. Every time my wife and I see a JP movie, she ends up playing Dino Crisis on the playstation over the next week.
As for Indy, if you want to get someone who knows how to ruin a franchise and still make money, get Lucas. I prefer the way the Alien movies were ruined personally.
They need to make another JP, probably three more, to use up the possibilities. Do The Birds JP style. Lets kill people. Lets kill dinos. Heck, do I have to watch Mathew Brodrick to see a big lizard do any justice in US movies? -
I'll start: Indiana Jones & the Life-Changing Colonoscopy. Executive Produced by Katie Couric.
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Jul 02, 2003 12:40:06 PM CDT
"LET HIM BE. He is immortal, agelss, frozen in '89 - we don;t fu
by tarl_cabot
Ahmen! G-Lu keeps milking his old glory and the result has been: A lousy third Indy, A lame Indy series,SW Special editions that rewrite characters and have unnecessary scenes and changes and a serverly fucked up Prequel trilogy that has to be the most universaly dissapointing two films of all time.Let George retire after "Revenge of the Sith". No more Indy films, please.
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Don't tarnish the image of Indy.
The only good thing about this continuing without Spielberg is at least he wouldn't replace Indy's bullwhip with a walkie-talkie. Riaders of the lost Ark is a classic. Temple of Doom was decent and gets points for not skimping on the violence. Last Crusade was merely servicable, so should remain the last crusade. Don't try to squeeze one more out of the franchise. Wait another 10 or 20 years and those guys who did that remake of ROTLA as kids will be running a studio somewhere and they can just remake it again with a big budget (and probably Affleck), thereby doing for Indiana jones what tim Burton did for Planet of the Apes. -
Jul 02, 2003 12:53:42 PM CDT
Indy without Spielberg can be a cinematographic disaster.
by blue_in_the_face
No joke. This could be the begining of "Charlie's Agels 3: Fuller Throttle"!
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Jul 02, 2003 12:54:51 PM CDT
I've got the PERFECT replacement director for Spielberg!
by rev_skarekroe
Four words: Blake Edwards' Indiana Jones! sk
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oooooh steven!!!! don`t do this!!!! fans will bash you as they`ll never have done atgeorge....don`t do that!"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aaaaaaaargh!! wtf is going on?? george lucas directing indy....*cough*...can`t believe it...*sigh* c`mon indy and spielberg that is such a deep relationship. i don`t really believe that gossip. harry and MORI PLEASE FIND OUT MORE!!!
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i calmed down. it`s like fooling the fans who all these years anticipated indy and followed every rumor that indy4 could happen at last. frank darabont!! if you`re a man write us a clarification mail!!!!
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Hey, Harry, when are you going to get a server for your web site that isn't powered by freaking hamsters running around in a wheel in their cage? About 75% of the time pages aren't available and when they are, your Talk Back entries skip around times and dates from one organized patter to another within the same topic. Anyway, I'm sure SS will direct, but in the event that he makes another bad career decision and bails out, I don't think that we'll have to worry about GL stepping in since he'll be busy in post-production on SW:III being that is due out less than 2 months before IJ:IV. Ford really needs a hit. He hasn't had a bona fide one since AFO back in '97. This is the last, best chance for a big hurrah for Ford, GL and SS to go out on a bang with -- not just for Indy, but their careers.
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...on just about every level. It improves on just about every concept introduced in Raiders. Temple of Doom is to Indy what Empire Strikes Back is to Star Wars. If you haven't seen Temple of Doom since you were a kid, go back and rewatch, and relearn. Temple was my least favorite for a long time, then I rewatched it when I hit my mid-20s. That's when the beauty and weight of the film finally came into focus. I realized, like Empire, Temple of Doom is the dark and glorious movie the director *wanted* to make the first time around, but wasn't allowed to by the studios. Then, when the dumb masses (say it fast) complained that it was too dark and not enough like the first one, the studios got involved again, and like Jedi, the third installment was a sad shadow of the original. Temple of Doom has the power of Speilberg's more "serious" films like Shindler's List and Saving Private Ryan combined with the character development and jaw dropping set pieces of Jaws. Do yourself a favor and watch it again before you flame me... Indy vs. an ultimate elemental evil, not just stereotyped Nazis, a female companion that's an opposing force to his character rather than a Minnie Mouse to his Mickey. (i.e same character with a skirt.) Temple is the closest I've ever seen to the perfect action adventure movie. (With the possible exception of the 1933 King Kong... which is really more "Monster Movie" than strictly action adventure, but I digress.) Watch an Indy marathon and you'll agree, the second is the superior film.
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george is a fucken MORON director
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Jul 02, 2003 2:00:15 PM CDT
"Let my armiesh be the rocksh and the treesh and the birdsh in t
by togmeister
......... you just find me a better written action/adventure romp in the past 14 years, you just let me know. "Only the penitent man will pass......"
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Los Angeles, CA - George Lucas, freah from the success of Star Wars Episode 3: Chewbacca Goes Bananas, had a frustrating first day on the set of Indiana Jones IV, sources say. Aledgedly, Mr. Lucas arrived on location and became immediately confused when told by producers that the film was to employ 'sets' and 'actors' during the shoot, and that prinicipal photography and post-production were scheduled on a 70-30 ratio of time -contrary to Mr. Lucas' last film which had photography wrapped up by luinch and 3.5 years of post-production. Mr. Lucas then locked himself in his trailer, appearing only later to accept his delivery of KFC. Paramount executives maintain that Lucas was their choice to direct from the first draft of the script, and that they are confident that the finished film will "uphold the traditions of unnecessary sequels everywhere." When asked if he had anything to add, Mr. Lucas responded "yeah, two words - Fuck and You."
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Jul 02, 2003 2:21:12 PM CDT
Harry the reason you liked Jurassic Park 3 and didn't like Indy
by industrykiller
Man every once in a while a creature so blatantly stupid comes along that they just scream for a baseball bat to the face every time they open their mouth. I mean how the hell else could you explain the rational that Jurassic Park 3 was the best of the series or that The Last Crusade was a disappointment. Keep your anargueably asinine opinions to yourself and just report the news you fucking tool.
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Good for Speilberg. I hope it's because he realizes what a sad, cynical move it is to do this movie. It's not surprising Ford wants to do it. The last halfway decent film and performance he had was What Lies Beneath. That was an anamoly. It's clear he really doesn't care anymore about doing good work. He wants his 20 mil and he'll show up for your stupid movie. I mean who didn't think the Widowmaker was a fucking stupid idea for a movie? It ain't Das Boot or Crimson Tide. Hell if it was u-571 I could see why he did it. Same with Connery (though I am pumped for League). I loved how a few years ago both of them made desperate attempts to showcase that they were still dashing Romantic leads. Like anyone ever thought of Ford as Errol Flynn. They just want a hit. And so they are gonna strip mine one of the greatest characters in film history. This is truely sad. You know what would what have been just awesome is if Lucas and Speilberg and Ford and Connery all made a NEW FRANCHISE with some cool fun character. Nope. Too Hard? All that money, power and brains and we just wanna relive the glory days. I betcha Darabont will do it. I mean has the sensibilty for it. It's like getting somebody else to make a Terminator movie...oh wait...nevermind.
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That's all i have to say.
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That is all.
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Get a friggin' dictionary. Principles are what you lack by downloading work prints of The Hulk or posting early reviews of Harry Potter and then saying that we're all bad because we do the same. Principals are important people, like in a school or on a film. Also, something that you won't ever be. Christ, I haven't seen so many misspelled or misused words since I looked over my 3rd grade cousin's book report.
Also, Indy 3 wasn't so bad. It wasn't my favorite (the first one is and always will be), but it had some sweet scenes in it. Also, anything that gets lampooned or referenced by Kevin Smith has to be good. "No ticket!!!!" -
No way this movie happens if Ford's career dissapation light wasn't blinking in high gear.
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I don't buy this for a second.
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... so I'm not suprised by the update. Also, I don't know why Temple gets such a bad rap. I guess a lot of the special effects are cheesy, but i still think its superior to the third installment (although the first is still untouchable to me). The intro scene for temple is still one of my fav scenes of all time. Am I the only one that doesn't like the whole Indy and Dad thing?
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Levae Lucas alone if it weren't for him computer graphics would probably suck and we wouldn't have the greatest film series like Indy and Star Wars... Now of course Indy 4 will not be as good as Indy 1 or 2 Indy 3 sucked and that is it.... I hope Spielberg does Indy 4 because his latest movies are really good... Ok on the topic of Jurassic Park 1st was the best and the 3rd was better then the 2nd which was one of the worst movies ever
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Quoting Empire Online as a legitimate source. I love the heresay posted regularly by this site. I was told by my friend, who was told by his cousin, whose dog goes to the same vet that Indiana, Lucas' dog in the '70s, whose name was the inspiration for Indiana Jones, goes to, that Steven Spielberg is going to be directing George Lucas' children in a community theater in 2004 and thus won't have the time to commit to Indy IV, but that's OK, because Quentin Tarantino is going to direct it and Sean Connery is going to take over the editing because he doesn't like Quentin's editing style, and Harrison Ford is going to use Calista Flockhart's legs as the two sticks The Ark is carried around with ...
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No RobinP in the audience. No RobinP in the audience ? No StephenP or TiffanyP (my kids). NOW who has the power, George ???
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I will say it here once.
It amazes me that many of you, TALKBACKERS, think you know so much about films and how and when to make the right decision about them. I would love to see what some of you do for a living,... besides thinking that you "could do better in this business" of course. (and you guys can't even express a good post/talkback without resorting to swearing, ha)
The whole idea of the creation of the character of INDIANA JONES was to make him a JAMES BOND type of hero, and the franchise was to be in the same way. George Lucas has been kind enough to be loyal to his peers (and audiences) with keeping the same people on their past roles (cast & crew).
***Spielberg wanted to direct a BOND movie but he was declined by Broccoly [since he thought that only English directors should], and on the vacations on Hawaii, after CLOSE ENCOUNTERS post-production finished, and frustrated on this LUCAS let him know about his intention for a new hero and Spielberg jumped in the wagon.
But if you follow the genesis of INDY JONES you will notice the clever move of Lucas on creating CHAPTERS for all the videos released (movies and TV show), RAIDERS is CHAPTER 24 (TEMPLE is 23) etc. creating a infinity number of opportunities for different adventures.
Lucas once and for all should get this idea of his started and hire a different actor AND different director and start shooting away a chapter 30 or something, and at the same time if Spielberg & Ford want another they should go for it since it could be CHAPTER 48, etc.
Indiana Jones should start the same path as James Bond films, and Ford should become the new Connery.
RENORENO
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Moriarty, I'm sure you're familiar with a Non-Disclosure Agreement? If Frank is such a cool dude about everything but this, then let's assume it's because he CAN'T talk about Indy IV. Anything we get on this one will probably have to be from someone not so high-up in the food chain. I really don't expect Frank to talk, because this is his highest profile gig ever as far as I can tell. Sure, he's done cool stuff, but come on, this is Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford. It doesn't get much bigger than this. Besides, these guys made Indy movies without our help in the past. They probably don't need us giving them feedback on this one. -- SPYder, out.
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I respect a person who would use Time and Relative Dimensions in Space as their user ID, but come on. Temple of Doom SUCKED!!! GAHHHH! The kid and the blonde were so - damn - annoying! Without them it would have been a ho-hum action movie, with them it's a blight against humanity. I hope to live a Temple of Doom-free life to the end of my days.
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This is the first time i'm saying this and I hope it's the last time, "DAMN YOU SEAN CONNERY!".
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that's even worse than Gus Van Sant
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Indiana Jones and the Search for Agent Cooper
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Jul 02, 2003 8:38:57 PM CDT
Jurassic Park 3 is a good movie to put retards to sleep, that
by sincityusa
Come on Harry, Jurassic Park 3 was better than the first two? Are you out of your mind? The movie is considered by many in the public and the filmmaking world to be one of the worst movies ever made. God, the movie was so bad in fact that it was reported Spielberg and the studio was so ashamed of it that they were actually thinking of releasing it strait to video instead of the theater. That
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Jul 02, 2003 9:06:56 PM CDT
According to imdb.com, Jonathan Hales is not listed as a co-writ
by red raider
I'm not sure if that's a blessing or a curse! The last time Lucas went it alone on the screenwriting chores, we got TPM. I'm curious who wrote the romance dialogue in AOTC: Lucas or Hales? Those lines were hilariously pathetic! One critic said not to try Anakin's romance dialogue on a girl, unless you prefer a face full of mace, as soon as the laughing has died down.....
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in the words of the immortal lagwagon,"I used to let rumors do my work...they got around real well...now they only hurt..."
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All I'm saying is if you haven't seen Temple recently. Give it a whirl. Its better than you remember. Willie Scott is a better character to compliment Indy than Marion Ravenwood. Sure Marion was cooler, sure she was a badass, but the fact is for storytelling purposes having an opposite type play opposite was better than having a mirror image character. In fact, the only way Lucas/Speilberg could get conflict between Indy/Marion was through a hamfisted backstory we didn't get to see. In Temple the conflict between Indy/Willie is in the very fabric of the characters. Likewise, Short Round was integral to the story. Indy was finally doing something for more than "fortune and glory". He saw the bigger picture and Short Round helped him do that. Watch the scene where Indy wrestles with whether to save the enslaved children or just make off with the booty. It's Short Round that tips the scales for him. In that one moment graverobber-Indy tranforms into hero-Indy. That's the reason Temple a prequel to Raiders... It's Indy's rise to hero status, and it took more than mundane Nazis to do it. The film is bigger than all that. It's bigger than "that chick was annoying"... Charles Foster Kane's second wife was as annoying as hell (and also a singer like Willie.) Know why the second Mrs. Kane was so annoying? Because the story demanded she be that way... same thing for Willie Scott. I understand why you feel the way you do... I used to as well... but go back rewatch it, and watch it with fresh eyes. I bet you'll see the brilliance.
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http://www.scottmanning.com/archives/000448.php
although.. Raiders still owns all
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It's nice to see other people have seen the light. There's still time for you, too! :) At least you argue for Raiders, I can respect that. These Last Crusade apologists are the ones that worry me!
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Who cares? Harrison Ford is 61. 'Hollywood Homocide' is a disaster and he's desperate for a payday. I don't care who directs Indy 4. I have no desire to see it.
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I want to know why everyone is so down on temple of doom. Just because the 1st and 3rd ones were better dosent mean the 2nd one sucked completely. You have to look at the film in and of itself, totally unrelated to any other film to see its grandness. There are things happening in temple of doom that the general viewer has no idea are going on, the philosophy of the story and more importantly how its told are lost in arrogant minds.
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I now have to amend my TB. Super lame from Spielberg. But this is the guy who can give you Jaws or give you Always. He can have a breathtaking, astonishing sequence and 10 minutes later have you cringing for his juvenile humor or saccharine sentimentality. I still think this whole thing is fucking stupid.
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...not as much as the first film, mind you, but perhaps it had something to do with the fact that the second was the worst film I'd seen in a theater since that steaming pile some call "Wing Commander" but I call "I Just Wanted To See the Episode I Trailer But That Ugly Monkey-Faced Bitch Romana #2 Wanted to See 'Dreamy' Freddie Prinze Jr." But I'm not bitter about it. And for the record, Last Crusade was good- it had the best looking girl, some interesting action sequences, and no Indy film is as quotable. But Raiders is still the best. Come to think of it, Belloq is rather quotable as well..."Yes, we are all quite comfortable UP HERE." And nothing beats the fly crawling into Paul Freeman's mouth. Classic.
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If it is, only Zemeckis could replace Spileberg. Period.
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Can't wait, but how are the gonna do Nazis in the late '50s? I'm betting it takes place in South America.
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Zemeckis would be perfect. Back to the Future series, Contact...wow, he knows his stuff!
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...or can you hear the sound of no one giving a damn.
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Is Connery becoming senile? He's pretty damned old...
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While JP3 is better than JP2, it's better in the same way that death by car-wreck is better than death by shark attack. Both are shockingly awful but one is possibly less horrible than the other. But to say JP3 is better than the original film???? Fuck, thats unbelievable.!!! I can't belive you even said that harry!! Are you looking for some kind of thank you from Joe Johnston? after all you seem to be giving HIDALGO some cover here of late! I can't belive you really mean that harry! No definately not...
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he just make delicious commercials and videoclips, but Charlie
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Fact is, unless Speilberg casts Whoopi Goldberg as the love interest for Indy, this movie is doomed to fail. IJ4 and the Chunky Chocolate Love - Summer 2005.
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You're annoying. And not funny. Two things nobody needs.
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Spartacus is being remade as a mini-series. How come there's been no news about that on here? Okay, so the original isn't Kubrick canon, but I believe Mick Garris and Adrian Lyne have both proven the folly of trying to remake Uncle Stan. As for Indy 4, I'd assusme it will be something along the lines of The Shootist or Unforgiven. Steven's been on a roll lately, so I'm all in favor of this.
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Get Spielburg and don't screw around. As much as I like Zemeckis' stuff, he might make it a bit too light-hearted to be a good Indy flick. If you want Lucas onboard, fine, but let him handle the catering. If he even LOOKS at the director's chair, shoot him. SW Ep 1 and 2 are stellar examples of how that man cannot direct his real (read: non-CGI) actors. And the Raiders vs. Doom debate? They're both great! Come on folks, neither of these two movies are "bad". JP2 is bad. So don't say "Temple sucks, the kid is too whiny" or "Raiders blows, too dark and no characterization." Raiders was all around an excellent flick. It had the action, the intrigue, and one great story. Doom was awesome for other reasons... less dark, more fun, and altogether one of my favorites.
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better title would be ... Indiana Jones and the Search for Damn Good Pie
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Jul 04, 2003 8:56:39 PM CDT
I don't believe Joe Johnston will get all the sequels Speilberg
by theginger twit
that's right
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Jul 04, 2003 9:36:19 PM CDT
Geezuss - Indy 3 wasn't as good, Temple was the worst, Raiders o
by theginger twit
just give it up - compared to BULLSHIT like the HULK. no one can ever again complain of any other film ever again!
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One of the BEST things about being 23 is that I got to see Empire, Raiders, Jedi and Temple before I was able to form an opinion about the quality of the direction or the performance of the actors and other such gubbins. Turthfully I would give ANYTHING to be able to sit and watch a film wihout caring a witches cold, hard, wrinkled teat about anything other than the fun, the excitement and the sheer joy of it all. When Jones 4 comes out, I'm having a full frontal (lobotomy) the month before. That or I'm going to drink a load of red bulll and eat more caffeine and suger laden food than any man ever ('cept probably harry - btw, ur show on sky is quite cool but it's like seeing Batman, then seeing Michael Keaton) and I'm gonna be hyperactive and very much the six year old. Join me! Or not.
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Jul 05, 2003 8:44:11 AM CDT
If Spielberg goes, John Williams will go. If George takes contro
by theginger twit
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For the love of god and all that is holy...please do not make Indy 4....it's just not cool....Harrison Ford is 100, Sean Connery is 200, Spielberg can still direct...but Lucas is fading fast....I'd rather see Howard the Duck 2 than see another Indiana Jones move....Indy is my all time favorite movie hero.....Harrison Fords a dolt and getting desperate to have a 20 million payday....He's also a grumpy self centered, egotistical, mid life crisis at 55, earing wearing, Calista Flockhart feeding shithead...go away....If Lucas directs instead of Spielberg, does that mean that Jar Jar Binks will make an appearance as Indy's sidekick? and everything will be done on Bluescreen?
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so much sexual angst in these forums... it always crakcs me up to see you all get your panties in a bunch over meaningless movie details. some of you really need to just unplug for a moment and take a look.
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The director of SIX-STRING SAMURAI would do a great job on this film. After his first effort, I heard Lucas and Spielberg both took notice of his talent. Hope he Jeff Falcon have something new in store for us movie-loving folks soon.
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What exactly does Spielberg bring to INDY 4? He's a good action director? Big deal, there are dozens of excellent action directors now. Lately Spielberg films (AMISTAD, A.I. MINORITY REPORT) were lumbering tedious, unexciting films; they all seem dark, dim, and not cinematic at all, even with all the eye candy). When Spielberg goes all out nuts and graphic, like RYAN and SCHINDLER he fucking rocks, he is the BEST but when reigned in by the PG rating and trying humor mized in with sentimentality (A.I., LAST CRUSADE, HOOK etc) he fails miserably. I think George Lucas was one of the main reasons why the original RAIDERS was more occult, and had more stuff dealing with the arcane and the dead (skeletons, spirits, etc). Look at LAST CRUSADE, its like ABBOT AND COSTELLO MEET THE KEYSTONE cops, down to the same chases, on a a biplane, a motorcycle, the desert etc). Apart from the great opening with River Phoenix, the movie sucked nuts. A 700 year old Knight? A cup of immortality? Rat infested sewers in Venice including a stupid boat chase in the cannals? Do you even remember Julian Glover as the villain or Indy's sidekick Allison Doody? I thought not. LAST CRUSADE is primarily known for some Connery/Ford scenes but it was not a satisfying or rousing Indy film. If Spielberg is gonna go through the motions again for INDY 4 like he did with CRUSADE, then let someone else direct it. In this day and age, its gonna have to meet the digital wizardy and action of say the MUMMY series or the superhero movies now, and that is going to be very tough. The movie can be witty, smart, but in the end it must deliver the goods;action, thrills, spills, the occult etc. If its another tank chase in the desert then its bullshit.
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Connery just repeated this statement on the "Today" show while plugging "League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen". He stated that the last he heard, Shteven wasn't going to be involved.
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If they ever did want to turn Indy into the next James Bond and have other actors portray him (this has already been breached by River Phoenix & Sean Patrick Flannery as well as 100 year old dude Indy), they should either fill in the early years using Flannery or the WWII years using someone like DENNIS QUAID. I just don't understand why Quaid doesn't pop up in more popular movies. "The Rookie" and "The Big Easy" were both fantastic, entertaining movies. He's got that Ford quality and even a similar appearance. Perhaps "The Day After Tomorrow" will break him bigger than ever.
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I know some of you can say that P. Jackson is overrated. (i know my english sux) but i think he can bring new air to the indiana saga. the trilogy is already close and is time to discover new sides of Indiana. spielberg was great, but maybe he is down for good.... let me think, a dark adventure without nazis in some place in africa... sounds nice to me! :)
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