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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
I just saw HBO’s FIRST LOOK thing on TERMINATOR 3 earlier tonight, and the footage I saw there finally did it. I’m pushed over the edge from skeptical to curious to interested and now actually eager to see what Jonathan Mostow has cooked up with this one. The word seems to be pretty darn good so far, although I’d love to hear from anyone who disagrees after the screenings tonight in England. Right now, we’re just hearing from those who liked it.
Like this first guy, for example:
Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines. After seeing several minutes of cool footage at this year's Cannes Film festival in May and attended a conference that housed producing giants Andy Vajna and Mario Kasar, I was left without a doubt that T3 would rock the planet.
Naturally, in fact obviously, the footage I and others saw were somewhat the 'best' bits and I shoulda known you can't get the true feel of what a movie's gonna be like in just seven minutes. Now that woulda certainly have been the most expensive short film ever, right?
Actually, T3 to me did seem a little short. We'll probably get a load of Special Editions and Ultimate Special Fantastic Director's Cut Editions on DVD in the coming months and years ahead, with added scenes
and the footage we never saw, but until then, here's my summing up.
So where do we start with this movie? How do you top or equal or follow up Judgment Day? By whacking in a load of neat state of the art effects? Hmm, maybe, what else? By getting a one helluva babe as the villain of the piece? Ooh, maybe. What else? How about mirroring and cranking up a coupla the big ass scenes that wowed audiences back in 1991's T2? Yeah, baby. That'll work.
For a moment, I thought I was watching some unseen, newly discovered footage from T2 or from the Universal theme park ride that was left in the garage of the family home, once shared by Hamilton and Cameron, which was found in a box of bits and pieces from a garage sale, when the couple decided to go their separate ways. "Mom? Can I have a 100 million bucks to buy these Terminator dailies? Please, Mom? Please?"
Actor Nick Stahl is the first guy we see, as John Connor and more to the point, the first thing we hear, as he replaces Linda Hamiliton's voice over from the previous films, telling the audience what the hell has happened since he was 13 years old and how he lives a life pretty much like the Littlest Hobo dog, getting odd jobs and how he just keeps moving on. I've not seen Stahl in anything since Mel Gibbo's The Man Without A Face, so I can't really rate his progress as an actor. He was good with Mel, but who isn't good with Mel Gibson? I know we all grow up, (sometimes), but we often retain the childlike qualities we had from our yester-years, but I felt John Connor didn't. Stahl was good in the role, but I couldn't help comparing him to the cocky, grungy Edward Furlong.
There were lots of references to the previous sequel and sure there's gonna be. When penning a script, it's kinda difficult not to mention stuff from other movies in a successful franchise, right Die Hard fans? But there was a lot. "Don't you remember me?" Says Connor to Schwarzenegger's Terminator. "Don't you remember anything I taught you? ‘Hasta la vista, baby’?" Now that was perhaps the coolest line in T2 and there were more mirroring scenes to follow, making this a kind of homage to the perfectionist that still is James Cameron. The Terminator doesn't remember that line as he was a different Terminator, which was kinda to the point. THIS is a different Terminator movie. Different writers. Different director.
The T-X is the New Yorker that is Kristanna Loken. Other than having guest starred in stuff like Lois And Clark and Boy Meets World, I hadn't heard of her. This balletic, ballistic beauty will surely be on my 'Talent To Look Out For' List and I just hope she continues and doesn't go off track like Natasha Henstridge after Species, who I thought was quite promising and Robert Patrick too, but he came back and redeemded himself with Copland.
Kristanna Loken is electrifyingly awesome whenever she's on screen. Just like Robert Patrick, in T2 and the Energizer Bunny, she keeps on going and doesn't give up.
Claire Danes does her action turn, playing the role of Kate. Or Katherine Brewster. A veternary nurse and one time making out partner of a young John Connor. It unfolds in the movie that she too, like Connor, is to protected by the Terminator. I have nothing bad to say about Danes. Ever. She's great in everything and she's great in this. Sure shes no replacement for Linda Hamilton, but I'm certain her character will grow and yes, I'm expecting a T4.
The T-101 that is The Terminator that is of course, Arnold Schwarzenegger. The black leather, sunglasses and the limited dialogue is back. After a few stumbling block movies, bar End Of Days and Eraser, you have to admit, it is his franchise and he did need to come back to his most famous role. Arnie got cheers a plenty when he kicked major butt in this movie. You get what you pay for. The Terminator.
I'm not gonna comment too much on Jonathan Mostow. I met him briefly in Cannes and thought he was a nice, intelligent bloke. I liked his previous movies, Breakdown and U571 and he certainly knows how to direct a variety of stuff. He told me that he toyed with the script too and I wish he, the other writers or even Arnold hadn't put too much comedy in the movie. It came across as a slight send up of the franchise and I was left feeling I hadn't experienced suspense or a certain shock factor that the other films made me feel.
I'm not bringing the movie down. I did enjoy the action and yes - the updated mirrored action sequence that was previously seen in T2, with the motorcycle and truck chase and Arnie's opening scene when he gets himself some clothes. I do feel the film has been too edited to fit the running time. Some scenes happened too quickly, with characters getting to a particular destination far too soon and also.. Don't cars run out of gas, people? You're driving mega miles, I was at least expecting Arnie to do a Van Damme from Universal Soldier and push the damn truck the rest of the way. Obviously not.
I'm not sure which movie will be this year's super blockbuster. Charlie's Angels 2? The Hulk? Bad Boys 2 or Terminator 3? As I wipe the dust off my Terminator figure that stands on my desk, I think that I woulda liked a little more from T3, but it's still the Terminator and I'll see it again and I'll tell you all to go see it and then get to Talk Back. Make up your own minds, filmies.Not the world’s most effusive praise, but praise nonetheless. Let’s see what’s up next:
Hi Harry, Hicks here.
I just saw T3. Showing a learning curve...
1) Spoiler free.
It's good. A good sequel that has all the requisite tropes, tips of the cap and overblown action stakes that are expected of a chapter in a monolithic sci-fi action series. But it is never more than good, which, in itself is a dumb statement cos what could be better than good? Well, the raw response is the bone-jangling, eye-popping, cerebellum-aching brilliance of the first two James Cameron movies.
I was thoroughly entertained, even exhilarated by the action set pieces, but in a stupefied, laugh-out-loud at the carnage kinda way - I suppose I was hoping for the stitched-to-the-edge-of-my-seat-at-the-molecular-level that T2 gave me when I was 15. Maybe I'm just getting old...
Arnie is fine - it is an extension of his T2 performance meshed with his his clumsy comedy alter ego with the Terminator-meets-world ante upped. But FACT - he is looking old. Incredibly well-preserved, 'still got great pecs' kinda old, but his eyes lack a sharpness and that is pretty key to the whole shebang of his signature role.
Nick Stahl is great as John Connor - the right mixture of anger, paranoia, vulnerability and strength shine through and I suspect Eddie Furlong may not have been able to achieve this tricky balance of pathos. Although his voice-over is a weeny bit annoying (but actually less than Linda Hamilton's doper deadpan one on T2).
Claire Danes - an actress I like - is adequate, but the biggest plot-bending-to-keep-the-franchise-alive moments revolve around her character and so her character feels forced.
Terminatrix (Kristanna Loken) - well, she is soooo much better than the trailer suggested, but she pretty much still sucks. I missed bad Arnie and Robert Patrick so much. The idea of the TX is threatening and the visuals are terrifically realised, but she never truly represents a serious fear, not the way the T1000 made you sit up and go 'fuuuuuuuucccckk'. The underlying logic of her technology is well conceived and consistent except for one logic defying escape that I will go into later.
Jonathan Mostow does a dependable job, but like U-571, he had crafted a bizarrely old-fashioned, grainy-lookin' film with a couple of standout set-pieces but which lacks any sustained momentum. It looks great, plays great, great FX but it ends up being just enjoyable. And there is definitely a sense of anti-climax, with the best action coming at the midpoint.
I missed Brad Fiedel - Marco Beltrani's music was so, well, bland. It was so indistinct and basic in its percussive scoring. I found myself begging for that creepy wheeze that accompanied the T1000, but to no avail. And having Fiedel's sig tune on the end only compounds this feeling.
The script-by-committee comes out surprisingly well, with lots of neat conjunctions with the previous instalments and a wealth of spot-on gags, plus it heads in a brave direction toward the end (although 'setting up a sequel' would be an understatement). There are a series of nice conceits to explain just how and why Judgement Day was 'postponed' rather than prevented and why it isn't important that Sarah Connors is dead and that, my this Danes girl, now she is REALLY important, a rather blunt sleight of hand that requires some grace from the audience.
Overall a fun night out, but this isn't the movie event that Carolco, Arnie and Mostow are hoping. Even if it opens HUGE the drop off will be HUGER, simply because of a brave ending and a sense, unfortunately, of diminishing return.
2) Spoilers.
So it ends [SPOILER REMOVED BECAUSE IT’S REALLY JUST TOO MUCH TO KNOW BEFORE IT COMES OUT… SERIOUSLY, YOU’LL THANK ME LATER – “M”]…
This shoehorning continues with Arnie - they REALLY stress how he is an old model on this one, and a T101 that has already seen action, so he MIGHT BE A BIT WEATHERED OK? But the nicest script conceit is that this Arnie has been re-programmed by [SOMEBODY] in the future because the same Arnie successfully terminated Connor in the future (what!!! I hear you say). And the domino revisionism where Arnie explains that JDay is inevitable etc and that we are all subject to predestination undermines the dystopic optimism of Cameron's T2 coda. The Future ain't what we make it cos we'll only postpone getting fucked by the machines a few more years... What with this and the Matrix the machines may begin to think we don't trust em...
As for the inevitable question of whether Jim would like it, well I don't think he'll break a sweat watching this and won't wanna track Mostow down and terminate his ass. I think he will sigh, nod and be safe in the knowledge that no one makes sci-fi action like him. His T2 is a classic, his Terminator 1 a masterpiece of cult movie-making. T3 is a sturdy commercial action flick, done well and with care but without the inspiration and, above all, clarity of Cameron's work. It's ending is intellectually rewarding, but can it compare to the breathless, tearful conclusion to T2. Not in a month of Sundays.
The standout moments are the crane car chase (Arnie is bit tough, ain't he?) and the penultimate Arnie beating on the TX in a toilet (how many times can he smash her head through porcelain!!!!). The logic break comes when the TX is captured by a hugely powerful magnet that is slowly pulling her to pieces when somehow she manages to extract her buzzsaw and cut into it. If the magnet was as powerful as depicted, how the fuck did she do that? It seems small on the page, but you'll see. However, this is balanced by the wonderful moment where she punches through the driving seat AND the driver and then steers the car through them both!!
The gradual build to military size spectacle and the activation of SkyNet is nowhere near as dramatic as it should be (a wasted opportunity) where everything is meant to be implied by the rampage of early prototype Terminators and HKs. And the final conclusion, that there is no one mainframe, that Skynet's AI self awareness is a result of cyberspace and networking, flies in the face of the previous plot orthodoxy that Connor destroys the Skynet mainframe...but wait! Now there is no mainframe...hmmmm.
Franchising is beginning to damage the ground-breaking films the begin them. I doubt I will watch T3 again (well maybe once more) but I would be up for T4 (damn, right into their hands!).
Enjoy it but don't get yer hopes up!
HicksOkay. One last one, and then we’re done:
Hi Harry,
Managed to get some tickets for the Press screening of Terminator 3 last night at Odeon Leicester Square. Not since the midnight showing of episode 2 have i seen a cinema so buzzing. Anticipation was high, the theme played repeatedly until the lights went down.
First off we were treated to the trailer for Bad Boys 2, not bad, loads of action, something to do with Martin Lawrences sister getting kidnapped, a car chase that would probably put Matrix to shame, and the god awful line from Smith claiming that BAD BOY'S STICK TOGETHER! There wasn't really much reception from the audience after it finished, it kinda looked like one of those seen the trailer seen the film kind of things.
Anyways, I don't know what to write in regards to plot etc, but i think i'll just write what comes to mind.
John Connor (Nick Stahl), his voice over at the beginning seemed wooden, i don't know. It didn't really seem to have an edge like Linda Hamiltons in T2. Although i think as the pace picked up he seemed to get more believable. He's a loner now, no address, no phone etc, he rides a motorbike at 80mph! and falls off it. Cut to him going to an Animal Hospital to get some drugs for his bad leg.
Then we meet Kate Brewster (Clare Danes) a vet, she discovers John collapsed in the hospital and after a tussle she throws him into a cage. Que first cheesy dialogue reminiscence scene. She got off with him the day before T2. Coincidence or what? Danes seemed a lot different from what i remembered her in Romeo and Juliet, Yeah she's grown up, but she just looked and sounded kind of ordinary, and from there it kind of developed into a kind of whiney/screamy performance. Save for the last fifteen minutes when she actually accepts her fate.
Oh, but wait i've forgot to mention the while this is happening strange glowing electrical spheres are taking out shops and desert wasteland. Yup, you bet. The Terminators are back.
First off, Lokenn is cool, great entrance. Good kind of menacing stare the same way Robert Patrick looked in T2. She basically starts and doesn't stop. She is ruthless, no remorse etc. And this is when the film began to surprise me.
The violence, it seemed they wanted to return to the original kind of extreme approach to this one. Like Arnie ripped peoples hearts out etc. (Check out the cop car, through the seat scene) Some of it is just downright evil. Lokenn instantly heads for her primary targets killing women children anyone she needs, and I don't think they were afraid to show it either.
Now. ARNIE. This guy is still looking pretty good, personally i thought he looked better in the beginning arrival scene then he did for the rest of the movie. He entrance didn't disappoint, but it did seem a little bit too comedic for me, and this was the problem with his role in this one. Humour. Ok in T2 there was whole scene dedicated to John Connor helping the Terminator become more human etc, changing his CPU. He doesn't even remotely attempt to do anything of the sort this time around, but still manages time crack or become the mock of bad jokes. Sure some made me laugh, but the shades joke was going on a little too much!
Doe's he kick ass you bet, and so doe's Lokenn. It is amazing how much of a kicking these two get in this film. The hospital explosion, leads instantly to a chase. Arnie hangs on the back of a.....shit what do you call them? I dunno something with an arm on the back that swings from side to side. He crashes throw buildings, collides with cars. And Lokenn takes out just about anything in her way, in a lorry a whole street, in a helicopter the whole landing bay, (only to be topped by Arnie arriving in the same fashion but by gunship).
All this time Stahl and Danes (more so) just act confused, Connor can't get his head around why there is another, and Danes can't believe.....
[SPOILER REMOVED AGAIN]
Then were off the cemetary. Sarah Connors grave. Full of guns. The police arrive. Arnold does a rehash of the cyberdine shoot out, and then Lokenn shows up. Que another car chase slightly smaller, but still rockin. It's just amazing how cool it is to see the women smashing and crunching her way through whatever obstacle is infront of her.
Oh yeah one other thing i forgot to mention. Kate father is head of Skynet, a computer virus is out of control. They need to get to where he works to take out Skynet before the machines are activated at 6.18pm (judgement day?)
Too late, and that's when the fun really kicks off. Arnie loses his skin, Kate loses her father, Arnie has one huge god damm fight with Lokenn in a toilet (true lies) only more brutal. Check out the scene of arnie smashing a toilet over Lokenns head. ROCKIN!
[MORE SPOILERS FROM THE ENDING REMOVED]
And thats all i'm gonna say. I think i've said enough, too much but god damm! even with all the complaints, it still manages to impress with it's action. But there's definitely a gap from Cameron's presence. Mostow, kind of seemed to want to get the feel of the other films T2 mostly, but ends up twisting it with speeded up/slo-mo shots that were too excessively used. And the music was a bit of a let down. From what I can remember, the main theme was only used at the end of the film.
Shame!
But what do i know, i'm just a fanboy who got free goodies and had a rockin good evening.
You can call me
Jack's Smirking T-1000Thanks, guys. Sounds like I’m gonna see some fireworks this 4th of July after all. Whoo-hoo!
"Moriarty" out.
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Check it out, its pretty cool. We have to support this movie, so we can get more comic book movies, FF, Iron Man, Avengers!.
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Look at all these PLANTS!!!!!!! And an assortment of them too!....And thus, I have spoken! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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It was shown in California to the troops yesterday at Pacedena and it rocked the house. Time for all the girly men to go see Legally Blonde 2 this July weekend, because the REAL MEN are going to see TERMINATOR 3! 'nuff said
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Yet again I'm left apologising for British reviewers. At least his spelling was OK I suppose.
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Jun 27, 2003 8:44:03 AM CDT
T3 rated 12A in the UK. To you Americans, that is the same as a
by dr_zoidberg
This means that Terminator 3 is a VERY tame "R" rated film. The BBFC are VERY strict in comparison to the MPAA, yet T3 got a 12A with no problems. So T3 obviously is a lot lighter in tone than the last two movies. Shame really.
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Yeah! Dogs! They haven't done dogs yet!
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You seriously gonna buy these reviews? They are bullshit. What these pricks have done, is take a look at all the Trailers, pieced together footage from the 9 clips at that french site, then write their own fucking review.
"Remember me? Hasta La vista baby". This scene can be seen online.
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Go to www.bbfc.co.uk, then type in terminator 3. Its sledge-tastic!
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SLEDGE-TASTIC! BUSTIN!
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where's Neil's review?
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I'm afraid Duke, the UK press and a few select retailer corporate suits did indeed see Terminator 3 last night. Some of my old colleagues from HMV went and loved it. You cunt.
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What's up with the Big Brother like removal of the spoilers? That's why I come to this site and read reviews that claim they have spoilers! What's next, filtering out any posts that talk about Harry?
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I too saw Rise of the Machines last night in Leicester Square, London. It was two hours of good fun and probably the best sequel that didn't need to be made. I think the opening humour was wise else its just a feeling of here's arnie naked off to look for clothes again. All sequels tend to become parodies just look at jurassic park 3 or god forbid Robocop3. This avoided the pitfalls of rehashing the earlier movies via humour and a damn fine ending. And to the american posters who don't believe we've seen this movie - "Talk to tha haand!"
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Jun 27, 2003 11:43:11 AM CDT
12A? That's the same rating given to the last few Bonds, and a l
by morrissey'sghost
GOLDENEYE, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH and DIE ANOTHER DAY were all 12s, too (now called 12A, I believe). By contrast, LICENCE TO KILL got a 15, as did MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE II.
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i always thought the idea of the Skynet maniframe was a bit simple even in 1992 or whatever. Multiple mainframes make more sense. Matrix seems to suffer from this too (The Source). But, that's a bit nitpicky. i am surprised at the positive hype surrounding this - is it good? Or have our expectations for Summer movies simply been lowered after the last 4 years of sequel mania and tent-pole hell? - Only your porn supplier knows for sure...
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The idiot said this.... >a car chase that would probably put Matrix to shame< In Bad Boys 2? A 175 Million Dollar Buddy Cop Flick....That movie won't even be a blip on the screen and never make it's money back. Anyway I hope T3 is good.
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I love Arnold S. but he better make T4 fast. I am looking forward to T3, but I am going to try my best to ignore why they would send a robot with crows feet back to protect John Conner. Hopefully Arnold will get out of the slump he's in.
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HAHAHAH that will never get old
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Jun 27, 2003 1:51:08 PM CDT
Finally we get reviews in ENGLISH and, what a fucking surprise,
by regicidal_maniac
That's it mates show these illiterate Yank 'reviewers' how to spell and construct full and coherent sentences. T3 sounds like mindless fun but a tad 'meh'. I hope for the sake of Arnold's career it does good business.
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Jun 27, 2003 2:41:13 PM CDT
"See the women smashing and crunching her way through whatever o
by bannthisucommies
Where exactly was she when Buddy was run over? There your next one T4-Here comes Hillary!!
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This site was built on spoilers and bootleg reviews I'm betting the movie ends with Judgment Day, and I think many else here suspect the same thing, so why even filter out the spoiler endings. Those who don't want to know just don't read them. Those who want an idea if its worth seeing will or not. Did the studio make you take them out, or ask you politely? Why are spoilers for every other movie okay but not this one? WTF...
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The special effects should be pretty good. They're using the combo prosthetics with cg rotoscoped wounds overlayed. Like the face smach in Irreversible. Best special effect I've ever seen. Check it out.
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Just play it that this Terminator is one of the first built, and therefore the best to use. Why? Because the artificial intelligence is designed to LEARN, and experience counts, especially in dealing with humans. So a T-100 near the end of
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Jun 27, 2003 7:38:57 PM CDT
I think I'm the only one in the world who liked "U-571"...
by frankdrebin
...yeah, the depth-charge scenes were overdone, but I thought the overall story was well told. And the DVD commentary's pretty interesting.
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Jun 27, 2003 7:57:26 PM CDT
To those who claim to have seen T3 - your claims will only carry
by morrissey'sghost
...you let slip a couple of details that ONLY someone who'd seen the movie would know, i.e. nothing that's in the trailer or otherwise already "out there". Then, in a few weeks when we've all seen T3, we'll be able to look back on this thread and see that you were right. Needn't be major spoilers: tell us, say, what colour shirt Clare Danes wears when we first see her, regale us with an amusing line of dialogue, or mention any songs heard in the film, any product placement (e.g. Arnie walks past a McDonalds) or, hell, SOMETHING that happens or is said that will make us believe you've seen T3.
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To protect us? Because they're known to be phoney? To avoid a lawsuit? Why? WHY? WHY!?!?!?!
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Jun 27, 2003 8:32:39 PM CDT
No one will ever, EVER, touch the brilliance that is James Camer
by blue devil
I can't believe people are seriously discussing this film! Most of the reviews come off as plants and the ones that aren't, seem lackluster at best. This film will suck and disappear quicker than Reloaded did. James Cameron isn't worried about this film, because it's failure will only make him seem more brilliant. No one can tell a story like Cameron can, much less infuse it with action and effects without detracting from the narrative. This film will be mediocre at best, a travesty at worst.
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Jun 27, 2003 11:31:02 PM CDT
Not plants--low expectations. THAT'S why there are so many posit
by sith lord sauron
A lot of people believed that Reloaded would be the greatest film ever made, a multiple-orgasm life changing epiphany, etc so when it turned out instead to be merely a servicable Sci-Fi summer actioner fanboys hit the roof. They *do* tend to get emotionally invested in these things, you know. But with T3 it's been the exact opposite: right from the get-go everyone expected it to be absolute, Ed Wood level shite, the last gasp of Arnie's dying career. But instead it looks as though it's turning out to be . . .a servicable Sci-Fi summer actioner. The fact that it isn't gonna be Battlefield Earth 2: Electric Boogaloo after all has so many so overjoyed that they are mistaking this thing for Merchant Ivory Oscar-bait (and others, primarily on this site, accusing all positive T3 reviews of being plants). Me, I'm just glad that I've kept my expectations in check enough to be able to enjoy Reloaded, AOTC, Spiderman and now (probably) T3 for what they are, instead of pulling my hair out when they don't turn into friggin' Citizen Kaine.
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The first two reviewers were coherent and quite well spoken, the second one even erudite, using $10 college words properly, like "penultimate" and "dystopic". I expect reviews like these in my NY Times, which had me worried about AICN. But fortunately the last review was "written" by an incoherent, barely functionally literate retard. If it hadn't been for computers, he'd have done the review in crayon and every "S" and "E" would be backwards. Thank God for him. He has renewed my faith that AICN continues to hire those "educated" in the Califonia Public School System. Without AICN, these people would be rooting through garbage cans for food, gibbering about how they were "First!" and how cool Hulk Hogan would be in this or that movie, Brother. Bless your big hearts, AICN!
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For the love of all things red headed, fire crotched, and obese... I can tollerate spelling errors, sentences with no flow, or personal unique lingo/slang but dear don't subject me to stupid-ass-irrelavent-to-reviewing-the-movie-they-saw statements like Bad Boys II has a car chase that looks better than Matrix is just beyond words... ok wait maybe "Shut the fuck up!" would suffice. Saying such a thing shows how narrow minded you are or what zero taste/knowledge of movies you have and how you've bought into the Hollywood film scene business gimic. Being that anytime highly anticipated film (such as Reloaded was) has a much talked about certain sequence (Reloaded's hwy scene). That other studios force a similair sequece to "rival" it in one of their upcoming films. To even say Bad Boys 2's chase looks better than Reloaded's is like saying wiping your ass with generic abrasive toilet paper is better than the soft Charmin. The entertainmnt institution has become now the business in our mondern age that it's become sickening like Disney & Dreamworks do this all the time... Bugs Life/Antz, Monsters Inc/Shrek, Pirates Of The Cari/Sinbad. Other films that chose rivaling over entertaining... Deep Impact/Armageddon, Volcano/Dante's Peak, etc. You get the idea... what others do you know? As for T3, it dosen't sound like it will suck nor will it be brilliant. It sounds like it'll do like how Jurassic Park 3 did.
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I could've swore someone mentioned the "EDITED" spoilers already in one of their reviews. You should read your own site more often b/c it was already said somewhere that Danes' character was the one who had the t101 captured and reprogrammed to go back in time to protect the two of them and that the movie does end w/ judgement day happening. What i'm wanting to see in the movie and no one's said anything about in a review just yet is why the mission in t2 failed to prevent judgement day from still happening and why Connor has to live like he does to avoid Skynet.
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Because you didn't get to see a sneak preview? You should read the papers. Two New York newsapers have mentioned the UK screenings, it's not a big secret or anything. Do us all a favor and shut teh hell up.
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Just saw a preview of T3 for military members today. To all you skeptics, do not fear...this film kicks major butt!!! As far as sequels go, this was far more enjoyable than Matrix:Reloaded. Perhaps it was a matter of expectations. But, Mostow et al. masterfully integrated new ideas with some of the best elements of T1 & T2 along with a good bit of humor. By far the most enjoyable film I've seen this summer!
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To all doubters...this film contains possibly the best product placement I've ever seen on film. Look for the Xenedrine EFX advert during the hearse car chase. It's so blatant it's almost funny!
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Jun 29, 2003 2:50:56 PM CDT
This has been the worst summer of films ever...our last hopes ar
by bong
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We could end up with a half-dozen TERMINATOR movies, a sort of poor man's JAMES BOND franchise, but only if the studio can come up with a new central character to carry the next three installments. It cannot be Ah-nuld. He will be too damned old. Maybe shift the emphasis to John Connor and his descendants. What the hell, the industry will be cranking out HARRY POTTER and AUSTIN POWERS and JURASSIC PARK movies for the next 10 years.
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The film is shite - really shite.
Check this out
http://www.skymovies.com/skymovies/article/0,,12352728,00.html" target=_new>T 3 Review from Skymovies.com
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The film is shite - really shite.
Check this out
http://www.skymovies.com/skymovies/article/0,,12352728,00.html" target=_new>T 3 Review from Skymovies.com
and wht's all this "you haven't seen it" shite... OF COURSE WE'VE SEEN IT... -
What happened to spoiler central? I went to the press screening and was expecting people to be talking about it here.
The end is predictable, but thoroughly enjoyable as was the whole movie although the recycling of so much of T2 got a little tiring.
It is to all extents and purposes a prequel for T4, ending as it does at the start of battle against the machines. It may as well have said "See you next time".
Connor and Kate end up trapped in an unguarded nuclear military bunker weirdly abandoned by the US government (as you do) in the 1970s with presidential podium and all as Judgement Day kicks off.
They raced to the bunker by light plane (Kate: "my dad taught me to fly his plane" - handy) thinking they can smash the mainframe and destroy Skynet, but of course Skynet's networked and online and its AI all over the shop. Game over.
They hear the voices coming in and people asking what's going on "who's in charge there?" Cue stonner John Connor's time to step up to the mike (quite literally). -
Jun 30, 2003 7:44:14 PM CDT
FoxNews says T3 sucks. Their source? Ain't It Cool News.
by fluffyunbound
I shit you not. Check it out.
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what da fuck u talking about, a toilet brawl? gimme a fuckin break
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They say T3 Sucks, their source? AINT IT COOL NEWS! lol what da fuck
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And here's my "proof" while on the run in Kate's[Claire]vet van Arnold stops at a gas station and grabs huge amounts of junk food including a big bag of Beef jerky and some German chocolate wafers in a pink box. When the geeky clerk tries to stop him Arnold the Barbarian says "Talk to the hand" in a stupid call back to a previous gag. I guess the T-800's slang chip is obsolete as well. Great action, bad plot holes. The highlight is the fight where Arnie rips a urinal out of the wall and bashes her on the dome with it. The TX is way to indestructible, survivng multiple giant car crashes, a rocket laucher, and death by super conducting magnet. I liked that she materialized inside a friggin dress shop and still walked up the block to carjack a bitch in re fetish wear, just so we could look at her cherry of an ass. My biggest problem with it is that for all the rehashing and refrencing they do of the Cameron films, they violate the rules and logic of them. The TX has a plasma cannon in her arm[and a nifty hot wire device]though in the original it was established that the time ravel field negated such tech not surrounded by living tissue, and that's why the T-1000 had no moving parts. There is no evidence of living tissue in her{or the T-1000 for that matter]. The explanation of why Skynet wasn't destroyed in T2 is feeble at best, amounting to sheer "destiny" in the end. And the ending that some called brave I think is a bit of a cop out/cash in for sequel that already seems bleak and formulaic. Claire Danes and Nick Stahl are quite good when not running and ducking explosions however.
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Obviously this movie won't be near as good at T2 - the director would have to be James Cameron and it would have to 'break the mold' like T2 did, and the only way this movie could do that is if it had real fuckin robots and not CGI and like real people dying and stuff. One thing I'm curious about, though... do we see the T-X's jobblies? Tee-hee
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If the whole activation of the machines is shut down than Arnie wont exsist. If he doesnt than he can't come back and save Conner. If he doesnt do that than he wont be saved and the machines will rise. I hate it when Action flicks use a weak Sci-Fi theme to promote wanton stupidity. No point thinking. In other words it is through there very actions that the whole mess starts. Not once did the machines just say screw it. He cant defeat us because in fact we are here and he didnt defeat us.
Donnie Darko Rules! -
I agree with everything you say, except I have to tell you I think that A.O.T.C. was a bad movie. It was really just bad and all of the CGI Yoda's in the world couldnt pull it out of the gutter. Other than that you are right on. I mean I didnt expect anything from the Reloaded and it delivered just that, nothing. It was like eating left overs. Not as good when fresh but still not too bad.
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