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Did Peter Mayhew Spill The Beans'! EPISODE III Potential Spoiler!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Oh, boy. Either Peter Mayhew just spilled the beans, or he’s pulling someone’s leg pretty hardcore. I got this letter earlier this evening:
TheForce.net has quoted Peter Mayhew as saying, "Chewbacca rescues and
delivers the two children to Ben Kenobi." I just figured you'd like to
know if you don't already.
CLICK HERE TO READ THE ORIGINAL STORY!!
*P.S. Ignore the bastards bashing you for giving your opinion. Keep up the good work! :)
May the Force be with you!
-Barry Woodward-Thanks, man. It’s a fascinating crumb of information if it’s accurate. I think I sort of like the idea of Chewie rescuing the twin babies, then having to survive a pretty hairy (pun fully intended) situation in order to get them to safety. I complained in the recent Jedi Council article that I was worried about the idea of Chewie being comic relief, and that’s not what this sounds like. Not at all.
This next letter just arrived, as I was about to post the story, and contained more info about EPISODE III that I thought I’d throw on as well:
Harry, after all the shit that's been thrown around about downloading movies etc. I thought it might be nice to get back to some movie news.......regarding EPISODE III.
As you are probably aware, the bearded-one has tried to fill his wallet a bit more by charging fans to get info on the new film through a subscription service called Hyperspace. In a chat with Hyperspace members tonight, producer Rick McCallum gave out some little snippets of info...... spoiler ahoy !
Episode III will be PG - This is what is best for the franchise no doubt.
Running Time: 2 Hours - The final cut of the film should clock in around 2 hours which means there's about a 110 page script.
Episode III definitely has the most lightsaber action of any Star Wars film - There's a lot to do and we figure the saber will figure prominently into the final sequences.
SW3 takes place 3 years or so after Ep II - Hayden Christiansen said recently it would be much more than that, but Rick McCallum corrected him and gave the time scale for the film, noting also that everything is bigger this time, including the battle scenes.
Space Battle Beginning - An epic space battle to begin the film. We know it is the end of the Clone Wars about this time period, so expect it to be the definitive moment of the war.
If you use this, please call me The Dirty Turkey that had a beer and cheeted on Hulk Hogan's werewolf with a sexy tomboy beanpole.
Peace outSo what do you guys think? Can McCallum be trusted? Did Mayhew just talk himself out of the movie? Can you ever really have too many lightsabers in a film? I guess only time will tell...
"Moriarty" out.
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Sounds fun
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Harrys Review of the hulk was finally spoiler free, other than what you saw in the commercial. Thats the way a review is supposed to be.
If I feel like downloading the hulk and give myself my own spoiler before I watch the movie thats no diffrent than you reviewers giving a review with spoilers.
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Jun 11, 2003 9:21:01 AM CDT
Huh. I wonder, what's the Wookiee for "Push! Push! Breathe! Push
by trav mcgee
"HWOUGH! RWAUHGHOUGH! HUUUAAU! HUEUGH!" You know, I can't really see Chewie being that much comfort in the delivery room. Hopefully he stays outside, passing out cigars from his novelty "It's a boy!" bandolier.
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Schucks.....Chewbacca is gonna need help getting around safely.....and this is all pointing to the place I have both dreamed and feared all this time...THE MOONS OF ENDOR!!!! WOO! EWOKS SAVE THE DAY AGAIN!!!! NO BETTER WAY TO SUM UP THE EPIC TRILOGIC STRUGGLE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL THAN A BUNCH OF CUDDELY BEARS SINGING AND DANCING WHILE THEY HELP LUKE AND LIEA GET AWAY FROM THE BIG BAD DAD!!!! JUST PROMISE ME WE FINALLY GET TO SEE JAR-JAR BOOGIE WITH THE LITTLE VARMITS THIS TIME!!!! C'MON LUCAS...LET JAR-JAR BREAK OUT THAT FUNKY ASS!!!! I WANNA SEE OBI-WAN BUST A MOVE RIGHT BEFORE THE CREDITS ROLL!!!! WITH A SONG BY PEE DIDDY OR MISSY ILLIOT!!.......REDEEM MY PARENTS INVESTMENT IN ALL THOSE TOYS AS A KID!!!!! AND MAKE SURE YOU STICK A BABY HAN IN THERE TOO!!!! BECAUSE TO THINK THAT HE MAY JUST A SMART SMUGGLER WITH AN UGLY DEBT MIGHT RUIN THE WHOLE CHARACTER!!!!!! GET WITH IT LUCA-BABY - - - TWO HOURS MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO RAPE THE REST OF THE FRANCHISE!!!!!.....And thus, I have spoken! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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Just as many of you still care about the Matrix (despite Reloaded being the worst movie of the year).
E3 will hopefully kick ass like the last hour of Clones did the last 20 minutes of TPM. I still hold out hope for one last great Star Wars movie with all two hours being magic (btw I still have that hope for Revolutions as well) just an optimist, there is way too much negativity on this site. -
Jun 11, 2003 10:08:58 AM CDT
I think the sequel should be called Star Wars: The Babysitter's
by chaffro
"Grrraahh gruuhhhn aauuhhhn, bravvahhh."
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This might be badass...Watching all the movies in sequence, having chewie do this then appear out of no where in episode iv.
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all this really shows is that george has run out of ideas. he comes off sometimes as so desperate for fan approval (including chewie and boba fett in vastly important roles), and at the same time it seems like he holds so much contempt for the fans as well. luckily because of the difference in movie-making technology the trilogies look nothing like each other, so it's easy enough to watch the OT without having to connect it to the prequels necessarily. (seriously - don't the prequels sometimes remind you of a soap opera with all the soft mushiness of the image? everything has a halo around it...)
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Jun 11, 2003 10:25:50 AM CDT
You can never have too much Chewbacca or lightsabers in a movie.
by tall_boy
Period. End of story. And for those saying the universe is
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Jun 11, 2003 10:34:48 AM CDT
The real question is, will this movie have warewolves, and vampi
by mbaker
Warewolves, and vampires it must have.
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He's got a history with Chewie. Remember in ANH Ben first contacts Chewie, who brings him to Han to deal and brag about the Falcon. Nice. He probably put a call into Chewie before Luke even showed up to get whooped by the Sandmen, so he'd be at Mos Eisley, waiting. Remember, "you must learn the ways of the Force if you are to come with me to Aldaraan."
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"Grrraahh gruuhhhn aauuhhhn, bravvahhh." Thank you for that.
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Jun 11, 2003 10:43:05 AM CDT
He's turned me off to any future Star Wars films, and I'm not al
by bad guy
Yeah, only $310 million at the domestic box office for EPISODE II. Yeah, no interest there whatsoever. I'm sure Lucasfilm will miss your $10.00.
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so can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AOTC trailer comprised mostly of footage from ep III? a roomful of fetts, christopher walken, imperial shuttle, bobby from nypd blue, all that...
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Jun 11, 2003 10:57:55 AM CDT
When Han mentions the "Kessel Run" in Star Wars '77, Obie wan is
by timbenzedrine
Could the whole Kessel Run incident have been part of some ruse to smuggle the twins away from Vader? I've been waiting 25 to years to find out.
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I don't care about Star Wars enough to say anything. I like all the movies. The original is better!
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Jun 11, 2003 11:29:41 AM CDT
Actually, I have greater hope for Star Trek 11 than I do for Epi
by uncle sam
I would rather see a Vulcan/Romulan re-unification story, with Ambassador Spock and Benjamin Sisko the Emissary to boot, than some lame-ass excuse of a prequel. I mean, even the lamest and most horrible Trek films (The Final Frontier, Insurrection) were better than The Phantom Menace, and Berman and Braga NEVER fucked up their franchise the way Lucas did. Even after seeing the migraine-inducing Nemesis, I was still able to enjoy The Wrath of Khan and First Contact, but after Attack of the Clones, I felt very uncomfortable watching the original trilogy. And those Special Editions were extra-shitty. It wasn't enough that he pooch-screwed the prequels, Lucas first had to ruin our childhood memories. Try to watch "A New Hope", Special Edition, without being left with a bad taste in your mouth, or with sensitive teeth due to excessive cringing. The only error Berman and Braga ever did (as overwhelmingly evident throughout the last three seasons of Voyager) is that they focused on the inner-workings of the technology rather than focus on the story. I'm still hoping for a somewhat above-average Episode III, though. I WANT YOU, but not in that way.
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Jun 11, 2003 11:29:41 AM CDT
Actually, I have greater hope for Star Trek 11 than I do for Epi
by uncle sam
I would rather see a Vulcan/Romulan re-unification story, with Ambassador Spock and Benjamin Sisko the Emissary to boot, than some lame-ass excuse of a prequel. I mean, even the lamest and most horrible Trek films (The Final Frontier, Insurrection) were better than The Phantom Menace, and Berman and Braga NEVER fucked up their franchise the way Lucas did. Even after seeing the migraine-inducing Nemesis, I was still able to enjoy The Wrath of Khan and First Contact, but after Attack of the Clones, I felt very uncomfortable watching the original trilogy. And those Special Editions were extra-shitty. It wasn't enough that he pooch-screwed the prequels, Lucas first had to ruin our childhood memories. Try to watch "A New Hope", Special Edition, without being left with a bad taste in your mouth, or with sensitive teeth due to excessive cringing. The only error Berman and Braga ever did (as overwhelmingly evident throughout the last three seasons of Voyager) is that they focused on the inner-workings of the technology rather than focus on the story. I'm still hoping for a somewhat above-average Episode III, though. I WANT YOU, but not in that way.
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(Rolling up the geek sleeves here) As I recall, he walks up to, or at least first talks to, a human in an orange flight suit, who gestures over his shoulder. Meanwhile, Luke tries to buy a drink without getting carded, then gets in a fight. Obi-wan saves his bacon, Lucas gives us more gore in a one-scond cut to a bloody severed arm on the floor than in all 3 prequels combined (just you wait), and THEN Obi-wan tells Luke, "Chewbacca here..." And for all we can really tell, Alec Guiness may well be saying "Chewbacca" with an unspoken crooky-finger quotemark gesture. Of course, this is now all moot, seeing as how they apparently DO go way back. So, maybe the human in the orange jumpsuit was telling him where to find Chewie? But how can you NOT find Chewie in a one-room bar? No matter how crowded. Just look up! ...Um, we all do know that Lucas even made up the OT as he went along, right? And that these fun continuity discussions are rather silly? Still fun, though, no doubt.
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I can't remember where, but this plot idea has been out there for a while. I remember hearing it about the same time as people started speculating about the Obi Wan/Anakin volcano deal. I don't think Mayhew is revealing anything that hasn't been a speculation for more than a decade. I know I heard this a long time ago.
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Now Drew is getting info from Barry the most fucking annoying talk-backer in Aicn history. What Barry, your not going to grace us with any of your Star Wars/Buffy poetry? Way to read another site, paste/copy, and e-mail an article. Drew, shame on you for listening to this jerk-off who should have been banned months ago. I guess it's hard to ban someone with over twenty screen-names especialy one with such ground-breaking insight. Seriously check any past Buffy review in the last six months. Then maybe you can post some of Barry's tear-jerking, awe-inspiring poetry! Barry is an ass!!!!!!!! -OgOne has spoken-
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Chewbacca steals the Millenium Falcon from his father to attend a party, and on the way, he discovers Baby Luke and Baby Leia stowed away in the secret compartment. He pulls out his black lightsaber, but before he can strike the children down, Yoda appears and ignites himself, blinding Chewie and burning his skin.
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Obviously my initial instinct is to hate any idea that involves using a character from the original trilogy for the sake of it, but this doesnt sound like a "hey look, that's chewbacca in the background in scene 23" kind of idea. This actually sounds a good story concept. If Obi Wan were to give the kids to chewbacca, then maybe Obi wan didnt tell chewbacca his name or the names of the two kids, which would explain why chewie didnt remember them in the original trilogy, and, seeing as wookies could be a race that ages slowly, chewbacca could easily still be the same in the prequels as he is in the original trilogy. All in all, I'd say this idea is pretty plausible, unlike the idea of a nine-year old slave building a fully-functional droid.
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...to my next herpes outbreak. Sorry, Georgie, you had me at Return, but you lost me when you crapped in my hat on both these prequels. What, you got a room full of monkeys working on this garbage? Here's a word for you, continuity. This ain't the freakin Odd Couple, Felix and Oscar can be childhood friends one episode and meet as jurors in another. So Chewie knows Ben, eh? Wow, go figure. Are we going to find out that Wedge's dad slipped a roofie to Amidala at a Fleet Week party on Dantooine and a bastard child with quad saber skills was produced? Whatever....Time to crawl back into the caves and wait for the next big thing, whatever the hell that is, and move far, far away from sequelitis
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Untill he has a real writer and a real director he will go on screwing up Star Wars. I'm hoping in 30 years or so someone with better vision than Darth Lucas will remake all six movies and go on to make the last three!
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The idea of Chewbacca playing a meaningful role rather than just comic relief is reassuring. However, I am still troubled by the constant and overbearing character connections being made between the original trilogy and the prequels. It's almost beat to death. This guy is that guy's padawan. Jango (aka Boba) is the "father" of the Clonetroopers. Anakin is C3PO's "father" and so on and so on. It's so overbearing that each time it's done it loses significance and cool points. The universe is now almost too connected and coincidental.
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Jun 11, 2003 2:58:21 PM CDT
I'm friggin' THIRTY-NINTH, and came right after TWO bozos who cl
by film_editor17
Against every fiber of my being, I will go see this film, probably a week after it comes out, and I will like it. And then I will change my mind, but will buy the DVD anyway. I am caught in Lucas's spell...
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Isnt there enough to explain away between Episode 4 and the prequels already? Dont get fancy Georgo. Best case they just show Chewy shackled up as an imperial slave in a true cameo to show how nasty the empire is. He's led away and as the camera pans off the last thing we hear is his yell. Thats plenty, just focus on telling the damn story already and quit being cute.
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Jun 11, 2003 3:15:44 PM CDT
How Lucas crafts a film. #1. How many toys can we sell #2. see n
by matthooper8
He is a joke, I will not pay a dime to see Episode 3: The Search For More mMoney
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Jun 11, 2003 3:21:14 PM CDT
George Lucas is the sexiest tomboy childhood rapist in the galax
by iamjacksuserid
Darth Lucas, Dark Lord of the $ith. Lucas the Hutt. Who is going to feed scarves to the Chewbacca dogs?
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How in the hell can you have a "dark" movie with pg rating, why not mix it up a little and push it to PG-13, and since its the last why not R. Expect to be let down as Lucus makes an mature storyline in to something 6 year olds can handle :(. Hmmm I got an idea, why not have Spielberg direct it? what do you think?
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and here's why. Remember when Ben goes off to shut down the tractor beam? After the door closes, Chewie roars and Han says, "You said it Chewie. Where did you find that old fossil?" (to Luke). Now, unless Chewie is faking it pretty well and getting himself out of the shit, he never met Obiwan before Mos Eisley. So er... there's another potential plot hole. :)
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Calm down you little dweeb, Han never said HE made the imfamous Kessel Run mentioned in ANH. He said the Falcon did, as if that was part of its history. I'm a former sailor and I served on two carriers that had many things happen on them before I came on board.They each had their own history beyond the two years I was there. Han wasn't the only person to have owned or piloted the Falcon. Don't be such a dick.
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Jun 11, 2003 4:04:29 PM CDT
So does this mean the "hero" will still be a whiny assed cry bab
by earthworm
doing a poor Harry Enfield impression? God, it SOOOO unfair. RE Chewbacca, what's the point? Have him for a little self referential humour. Otherwise we're expected to believe that a galaxy that contains a planet that's one big city still only has around thirty people in it.
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The Clone Wars have ended. Anakin Skywalker, now known as Darth Vader after
fighting with his old master Obi-Wan and being made half machine to stay
alive, has just killed all of the Jedi except for Yoda. After the birth of
Vader's children, Luke and Leia, and killing Amidala and destroying the
Senate, he must now travel to Naboo, where a pesky little Gungan named Foo
Foo Binks, son of Jar Jar is causing some frightful mischief.
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three "sequels" er...prequels, taking ten years to do, and ultimately, the third one ends with..lets see..he becomes darth vader. BOOORRRINNGG. Not making parts "7, 8, and 9" was the worst decision Lucas ever made.
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Even when they sit down in the cantine Han introduces himself but doesn't really mention Chewie. But the fact remains that Lucas is making it up as he goes along. Still a good idea though.
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You know, I thought it was bad enough that he went and contradicted shit that they did in the "expanded universe" novels, because, well, the expanded universe novels are far, far BETTER than anything Lucas has done in the past 2 decades, but whatever. When you start retconning the goddamn story so that portions of the ORIGINAL trilogy now make no sense - you lose me completely, George. I didn't watch Episode 2 until almost a YEAR after it was released, such was my "enthusiasm" to see the flick. I think I may now not see this one at all. And to all of the Lucas apologists: yes. I know. He has more money than God and thus doesn't need my few schillings spent on his product. I acknowledge that myself, so that I don't have to waste my time by listening to you regurgitate that mantra all over again.
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Jun 11, 2003 6:08:08 PM CDT
>>>>>>>>>>>THE EPISODE 3 SCRIPT IS ONLINE!!!! (***but only for 1
by lord mall
I know someone that works for Lucasfilm as an administrative assistant and they had access to the Episode 3 script! Needless to say this person made a copy of it by importing it into a Word document and I'm proud to be able to present it right RIGHT NOW! But I'm taking it off my server space after one hour so get it while you can!!!!!! ENJOY Here's the address: http://members.lycos.co.uk/boardstory/Various_media/Scripts/Episode_3/Ep_III.doc
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Can you imagine what George Lucas will do to the original trilogy when he releases them on DVD? He's probably sitting in his ranch drinking blue milk and thinking up yet more ways to destroy his "masterpeice"
"I know I'll add an extra scene where a cgi Alec Guiness gets pissed and gets it on with a 100 year old Chewbacca, thus creating a race of small deformed furry creatures that inhabit a small moon somewhere, who ironically help save the world. Then I can have a video of Alec accepting my inevitable best director award and speaking "Jive". -
Will there be black lightsabers. How about Grando? And if we could also get vampires, werewolves and Hulk Hogan in the movie, it would be a cinematic masterpiece!
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Jun 11, 2003 6:26:03 PM CDT
at last! the possibility of a MAJOR space battle in Episode 3..
by red raider
The one space battle at the end of of TPM just didn't do it for me. If Lucas can pull off a battle like the armada attack in ROTJ, I will be quite satisfied. My all time favorite shot from all the Star Wars films is when the Millenium Falcon banks underneath the medical frigate in ROTJ. It's the next shot after Wedge says: "They're heading for the medical frigate." Awesome, awesome shot, and you really get a sense of motion. And all before CGI, I might add!
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The Original Trilogy had a serious/ mature tone that is lacking in the prequels. The reason is simple. The prequels are PG movies. The OT are not. The PG-13 rating originated with Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984). The OT all came out before then. Therefore, I believe that if the OT came out today, Empire and maybe A New Hope (death of Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru was pretty graphic) would both receive a PG-13 rating. Therefore, Lucas should not feel compelled to keep all the movies PG. Because in actuality, the OT are probably closer to PG-13. In order to make Episode 3 as dark as Lucas claims it will be, it's imperative he make it a PG-13 movie.
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So now Chewbacca knew Obi Wan before Episode 4....lol...it is amazing how everybody in the SW universe is connected. Talk about horrible writing. They left out that a baby Han Solo uriniated on Obi Wan in Ep III. And Grand Moff Tarkin was Princess Leah's butler on Alderaan. What a friggin' joke. Well, congrats to those of you who can convince yourself that these films are good and enjoy them accordingly.
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Jun 11, 2003 8:26:59 PM CDT
Plot hole, schmot hole. Ep. 3 is gonna rawk da hiz-ouse.
by noriko takaya
God I can't wait. Yeah yeah, so Phantom Menace stunk up the joint; get over it. Attack of the Clones is a full-on match for Empire on every level, INOHO. *Suddenly remembers painful love scene between Anikin and Amidala* Hmmm, well, not quite EVERY level, but it's up there. And adding Chewie to "Star Wars Episode III: The Sinister Hand of Doom" is just icing on the layer cake of cool. And I'm with the guy who said this thing should be PG-13. Heck Anakin's Fall to the Dark Side should be a friggin' R but then it wouldn't be Star Wars I guess. Uncle Sam, hate to disagree but I gots NO more hope for Trek. Voyager sucked; Enterprise is an exercise in tedium and the last few films have been gussied-up T.V. movies. After the glory that is The Matrix, Star wars and especially Lord of the Rings Trek feels so *small,* so mundane. See, what Trek needs is a shot of what Star Wars has in spades: epic scope! The Trekverse is HUGE; we should be seeing more of the Origional Series Trek races that inhabit it--Tholians, Andorians, Gorn, etc--in addition to the ones introduced in Next Gen and beyond. And there needs to be a huge, galaxy-spanning story. Something jaw-dropping that encompasses three or more films and that will NOT leave the status quo intact by the end. And by Crispy, make the Borg into badasses again! Get rid of the queens and return them to their faceless, relentless automaton selves. Have them get into a war with Species 8472 with the whole of the Alpha Quadrant as the battlefield, and everyone there has to unite to drive the two bull oliphaunts out of the area. Give Wesley his own battlecruiser to command (the U.S.S. General Patton) and have him play some kind of pivotal role in the melee. Give Jeri Ryan a new uniform that is entirely spray-painted on and have her discover a new, larger Doomsday Machine to use against the enemy. I don't know. Just some ideas. But whatever they do, the audience needs to walk out of the next Trek film in a daze, just like I did when I came out of The Two Towers and will when I come out of Episode III. Toppu o Nerae!
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Hey, maybe they'll bring Harrison (now in his 60's) as Han's dad, or show Morgan Freeman as Lando's dad and have a young Lando.
Hey, I like George's ideas now for this film. It's going to be dark, violent, gritty, and "Return of the Jedi"-esque which is what really this prequel trilogy really needs. "ATTACK OF THE CLONES" had shades of it (Anakin killing the Sand People, chopping them up, etc.) and (The Dooku Vs. Annie Battle), but let's just hope he keeps it has dark as should be. No Jar Jar Binks trying to be funny, just a brief cameo of him in the beginning congratulating Anakin and Obi for a job well done with the "Clone Wars" than zip into these scenes as in order:
1. Jedi Council-Show who remains on the Council now that the war has taken over and explained what happened to the others.
2. Anakin returns back to Naboo to be with Padme, taking a "well-deserved weekend off".
3. Obi goes to talk to Master Yoda and Mace about what to do with Anakin and what to do about his disobediance in disobeying the Jedi Order by marrying.
4. Anakin and Padme share some lovey-dovey moments on Naboo.
5. Anakin starts to dream, hearing his mother's voice, she asks why he didn't save her, and then she scorns him for not, yelling and screaming at him. Finally, we see in the dream Tuskens surrounding him from front to back, Anakin manages to defend them off, but suddenly Dooku appears and blasts him with lightning, than Dooku cuts off his head with his lightsaber. Suddenly...he awakens, Padme asks what's wrong, but he doesn't tell her.
6. Next morning...He receives a call from Obi to return back to Courscant. He does and they begin to talk about things, than Obi tells him he is to be a Jedi Master, but under one condition, because of the breaking of the code he is to be banished from the Council and will not recieve a seat upon it. Anakin mad as hell runs away, not believing it, Obi tracks him down, but Anakin shuns him away.
7. Then, Palpatine comforts the poor kid and tells him the truth about why he never grew up with a father and tells him "I'm here for you son". Anakin flabbergasted leaves his office and goes back to Naboo.
8. Meanwhile...we see Sidious talking to Dooku he says that the last encounter with Skywalker was "an interesting turn of an events" and "that if he could be turned than the galaxy would never be the same". He sends Dooku off to Naboo to retrieve him. Dooku goes.
9. Dooku arrives at the palace. Skywalker is nowhere to be found. He kills the guards, kills Sio Bibble, and the Queen, and everyone just with streaks of lightning than goes to Padme's house.
10. Padme leaves to go visit her parents to tell them the good news (about the babies) before she tells Anakin. Dooku arrives at Annie's house and there's a big lightsaber battle, finally all is revealed, all is told, and eventually Anakin joins forces with the Darkside.
11. Mace senses the disturbance in the force and dispatches several Jedi including Obi to rescue the teen before he is fully turned. They ride off in Starfighters and find Dooku's ship, Dooku goes to the volcano planet, where the big battle begins.
12. 5 of the Jedi except Obi die from Dooku's lightning bolts and lightsaber "swordplay".
13. Anakin and Obi have their epic battle, alot of lightsaber battling going on, Obi Force Pushes Annie off a cliff, but Anakin grabs hold of a branch sticking out of it, Obi tries to give him his hand, but Anakin refuses it and suddenly slips and lets go falling into the lava.
14. Dooku retrieves Anakin's body from the lava pit and brings him back to Sidious's. Anakin gets repaired and given a metal, robotic body suit to live and breath in. We see him become Darth Vader. Than, Sidious explains that he is both Palpatine and Sidious.
15. Obi tells Padme the sad news. She cries but then tells Obi that if Anakin ever found out about the kids he might turned them to the Darkside too. Obi than tells the Council and than we go into the big "rescue mission/send Luke to Tatooine with his uncle/Leia with her deal".
16. Then, we cut to the Rebel Alliance. We meet young Mon Mothma, Wedge Antilles, a young Lando Calrissian, his dad, and Chewbacca. Obi asks if they can get two pilots to pilot a ship from being overrun by the Darkside. Lando, his dad, and Chewie volunteer.
17. Then, about twenty or more space battles ensue just trying to get Padme. Anakin thinks that Obi wants her all to himself so he dispatches Tie Fighters, ships, and everything Sidious has got to kill Obi and bring Padme back to him.
18. As those scenes happen, Palpatine announces that the Jedi aren't needed anymore because he has a brand new army: the stormtroopers. He tells the Jedi that they have bee promoted to being nothing more than useless to him. Suddenly...the Red Guards, stormtroopers, destroyer droids, battle droids, and super battle droids surround the Jedi. Many start to evacuate, but are killed, or shot down, or their ships explode. Others fight. Mace and Yoda are only the strongest ones to survive the whole onslaught. After all the fighting Palpatine does his "Good...good" remark and then electrocutes and electrifies Mace, he tries it again, but this time Yoda blocks it, wrapping a Forcefield around them, then he flings the electricity back hitting Palpatine in his face. The man shrieks in pain as it burns it, disfiguring him (that's why he looks like toad in ROTJ).
19. Yoda and Mace escape onto a Starfighter and go to see Obi who is now at Chewbacca's homeworld as a hideout from "The Enpire."
20. Mace explains to Obi the whole deal. Obi does his line "I told you politicians weren't to be trusted."
21. Meanwhile...on board a Star Destroyer, Anakin asks Nute Gunray why they have't located Obi Wan yet. He tries to explain in a lie, but Anakin chokes him using the Force and then he dies. A young Tarkin (Robert Carlyle) takes over as Grand Moff.
22. The two become allies and Tarkin promises he'll find Obi Wan.
23. Then, there's alot of talking, pregnancy takes place, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
24. Then, the last battle occurs. Chewbacca is forced to leave his homeworld as Wookies begin to battle the Empire off. Lando, his dad, Chewie, Obi, Padme, C3PO, R2 D2, and Jar Jar manage to escape in the Millenium Falcon than the battle occurs in space, while Mace, Yoda, and the Wookies fight them off. Mace finally dies here due to Darth Vader who cuts him into with one single swipe of his lightsaber. He tries to pick on a fight with Yoda, but Yoda manages to cut Darth's air tank causing him to stop the fight and try and retreat for repairs before he dies.
25. Yoda tells a couple of Wookies to take him off to Dagobah to stay for good.
26. Lando, Chewie, and Obi manage to shoot down Tie Fighter after Tie Fighter (like ANH) than they go to Alderran where Padme tells Obi to drop young Luke off with his Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. C3PO, R2 D2, and Jar Jar go with her, while Chewbacca and Obi go to Tatooine. Lando and his dad menwhile go to visit an old friend on Tatooine Jabba the Hutt to get his money for the illegal smuggling jobs he did for him, Jabba infuriated with rumors and talk of treason (his involvement with the Alliance) has Lando's dad thrown into the Rancor pit to prove his loyalty. Lando watches as his dad is gobbled up and devoured by Jabba. Lando tries to kill Jabba, but Jabba makes him a slave in his workhouse, there he meets a Greedo, a teenaged Boba Fett and Bossk, Han, and IG88 all slaves.
27. Obi gives up Luke to Owen and Beru and tells them of Anakin's dissent. Owen furious vows never to speak of the Force or the Jedi to Luke ever again.
28. Obi goes into Mos Eisely for one last drink and to wish Chewbacca goodbye. Chewbacca nods and growls and than they go their separate ways.
29. The Empire is shown. Tarkin lies to Darth and tells them Padme is gone and dead. Darth happily watches his army flourish before him. Sidious however does not say word knowing Tarkin is lying.
30. Obi nestles down in a hut, Padme is seen on Alderran with Leia, Yoda is seen on Dagobah, and Chewbacca is seen in Jabba's Palace looking for a co-pilot to take him back home, instead what he finds is young Lando and Han playing Sabbac. The two are betting on Lando's ship parked outside. Han eventually wins and gets it. Chewbacca sees this and asks the kid if he would like to make an escape and together become partners. Han agrees and he, chewie, and lando break out. (But afterwards Chewie and Han are forced to work for Jabba again due to they get caught by his men ad by Boba).
31. End once again with Obi, Padme, Chewie and Han, Lando taking over Cloud City for his deceased father, and the Empire.
32. Roll credits. -
I don't know why all you Star Wars fans are so hopped up over chewing tobacco, it tastes like crap.
Now, what I REALLY want to see more of is that ultra slick two-headed CGI Sports Announcer for the Pod-Races from TPM. DAMN he was awesome, really FIRED ME UP!! -
Jun 11, 2003 9:11:42 PM CDT
THIS ALMOST AS LAME AS C3PO BEING CREATED BY DARTH VADER. WHY D
by alcamaeon
Why not make Lando Calrissian the secret love child of Sam Jackson and Aalya Secura. Give me a break with that shit.
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Star Wars is shit. Fuck Star Wars. Fuck it in it's Star Wars ass.
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I think Mayhew was just joking about what he would like to do in Ep3 as in his ideal dream role in the movie.
Think about it logically for a moment. Lucas is the most guarded filmaker on the planet. He is notoriously secretive (rightly so methinks and more people should do the same as spoilers are ruining the movies).
Ewan/Hayden/Sam have not yet read the script or even know hardly anything about it. Lucas will not let actors read it until they are very close to filming their scenes and even then he only gives them their scenes not the entire script. This is how he has worked on Ep's 1&2 so why would he be any different now?
Do you really think he would tell Mayhew something which is a major league spoiler when he has not even told much bigger actors their roles/character arcs yet.
Put this rumour where it belongs.
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Jun 11, 2003 11:24:27 PM CDT
the REAL reason ObiWan rolled his eyes when Han mentioned the "K
by the g-man
Han was bullshitting Obiwan when he said the ship made the kessell run in 12 parsecs b/c parsecs are measurements of space, not time. For Han to claim he made the run in 12 parsecs is not unliked trying to claim you ran a mile in a thousand feet and Ben knew that statement meant Han didn't really know what he was talking about. So he rolled his eyes. BTW, back when Star Wars first came out, a lot of people griped about the "parsecs" line for the above reasons and Lucas went on record as saying he threw the line in to show Han was full of shit and Ben knew it.
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. . . planets 'splodin' in the 3rd one? Probably not, since in ANH they tested the Death Star on Alderaan. But, I have a feeling that Naboo will have become the seat of the Rebel Alliance and maybe the opening space battle will be centered around Naboo and the whole place will get messed up big time. Lots and lots of people dead. The survivors flee and Alderaan becomes the place where Leia ends up and Tatooine where Luke ends up. You have to think what planets have been in the 5 movies so far. Tatooine, Alderaan, Dagobah, Coruscant, Hoth, Cloud City (on Bespin), Yavin 4 and Naboo. So, we probably won't have anything on Hoth but maybe Yavin and Dagobah and perhaps Naboo. Just thinking out loud. Any other theories? I also think that Darth/Anakin will kill Dooku. He's gonna seize power and I have a feeling that the trade guild, the banking clan and all the other rejects that were at the table in AOTC are going out the hard way. I expect a high body count in this one. Probably not gore, just lots of people taken out of the picture one way or the other. And then there were 3?
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Chewie should Kill JarJar. A new film by Terintino.
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...if you think ANH and ESB deserved a PG-13 rating. I mean, come on? The death of Owen and Beru was really not that graphic. Just a couple of burned up skeletons, no real extreme gore. Furthermore, Episode I has Darth Maul being sliced in half and still received a PG. Episode II has Jango Fett being decapitated and Anakin loosing an arm during the final duel and it received a PG rating. So for you to claim that because of the "graphic" deaths of Owen and Beru and the loss of Luke's hand in ESB that both these films would've received a PG-13 is absurd. There's little to no swearing in either of those films except for the occasional foul mouthed Han or Obi-Wan. Addtionally, I have a hard time understanding how a rating relates to the overall merits of a film. It doesn't. It doesn't matter one damn bit.
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Jun 12, 2003 12:09:49 AM CDT
I'LL MAKE A HUGE BET THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE WILL BE CREAM
by theginger twit
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Upon further review I see your points about the ratings for the OT. I probably agree with you. I don't know. I just wish Lucas would dare to offer a more mature film ala the OT, for Episode III instead of the child-like feel the prequels, especially Episode I possessed. By the way, you're a boob. lol. Just messin' with you.
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...I don't trust any of these fucks anymore.In recent months,I've really gotten burned out on Lucas and his galaxy.And Hasbro and the way they're dolling out current Star Wars toys.So why the hell did I buy the new INSIDER today? The never before realeased Slave Leia pic.Yum.
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Jun 12, 2003 1:04:49 AM CDT
Doesn't everyone realize Lucas is making this up as he goes alon
by tritium
Hey Star Wars fan boys (and girls). I hate to break it to you, but George Lucas had no intricate master plan for his "Mythology" (and I use that term very loosely as applied to Lucas) when he made Star Wars (Episode IV A New Hope). All he had was perhaps an inkling...a SMIDGEN, a rough outline of how to expand his story.
His Star Wars universe is not self-consistent. Unlike Tolkien, who had the complete mythos and back-story and history fleshed out for Middle-Earth before he ever began The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings, Georgie boy is a poser with delusions of grandeur.
After the huge success of Ep. IV, that's when Lucas really started to think about how to make his epic into...well, an epic.
George Lucas' universe is replete with contradictions, loop-holes,and inconsistencies. The very fact that Lucas is trying to pull everything together between the original trilogy and the prequels, by akward and (quite frankly) ludicrous contrivances is proof enough.
How convenient, and totally unconvincing, that Chewbacca, will have a role to play in Episode III. I can almost picture steam coming out of Lucas' ears as his brain struggles to make every character from the OT loop back into the prequels to force some sense of continuity.
Everyone has already complained how "small" the Star Wars universe has become.
Thanks to Bill Moyer's, Lucas' sees himself as some sort of grand myth creator. His name does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as JRR's.
I quote from Monty Python's "The Life of Brian"...."He's making it up as he goes along". -
Then again, upon further, further review I stand by my assertion that A New Hope and Empire might have garnered PG-13 ratings in today's age. Take Peter Jackson's The Fellowship of the Ring or The Two Towers for example. Both movies had no overly horrific bloody deaths, cursing or sexual nature. Yet they both still received PG-13 ratings. Why? Because of their tone and nature. Both films were dark, mature, and serious. Very similar to ANH and Empire. Look up a list of PG-13 movies. You'll be surprised at what you'll find (Spider-Man, X2, J. Park 3, The Scorpion King, etc). By definition, a movie only has to have scenes that MAY be inappropriate for a child under 13 (ANH- death of Owen and Beru, death of Obi Wan, etc. Empire- Luke losing his hand, the apparent death of Han, Han's torture, etc.) to warrant a PG-13 rating. I'm not saying ANH and Empire definitely would've receive PG-13 ratings in today's age but there's a good possible they might have.
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Jun 12, 2003 2:24:58 AM CDT
Secret Film Reel: Luke's Babysitter is Chewbacca! Oh! Oh!
by renegadebushido
sorry, had to quasi-quote comic book guy in this case
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whatup G?
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ok lets just trace george lucas' career of blatant plagiarism and lack of imagination. First we start off with THX1138...Superbly made, showing a promising your director for the first time. HOWEVER, I found it ever so similar to George Orwells 1984...How can the guy SERIOUSLY convince us he wrote the damned thing? Then we spin forward a few years, and he makes star wars. A nice little saga, more of a fairy tale in space and has more than a few striking similarities with books from various sci fi writers that have been mashed together for his own greedy needs. He make 2 more movies to well and truly secure a future in the hearts and minds of the mindless masses of mediocre sci fi fans who have never even HEARD of Isaac asimov, let alone read him. Then he takes han solo, and puts him in a stupid hat and gives him bondage gear and passes it off as a swinging rope. Yeah right...I bet ya he was spankin those girls at every available opportunity. Then he gets bored with it, and we hear abotu str wars: special edition. Was this to brsh up all the plot holes and crappy script dialogue that was written in the first place? No...because we see a teaser of "THE SAGA BEGINS". More like "THE HYPE BEGINS" because while we were watching even shoddier workmanship on the part of lucas and co, he was working on putting an annoying little blonde shit, an oversized lizard and a woman with serious make up problems and paedophillic tendencies on screen with STAR WARS EPISODE 1: the saga begins....(he wrote all this back in the 70's folks...honest.) Then he makes star wars episode 2: attack of the clones(imaginative title there georgie boy) and KEEPS the annoying lizard, gets rid of the blonde and lets the better looking darth get his groove on with padme amidala, who has an outstanding death toll record for her body doubles by now. Now we have the impending threat of star wars episode 3: what the hell am I gonna call it this time? and indiana jones 4, which I confess I have more than a little interest in. But I digress. here's how he can fix the crapola he produced for the past 20 years:
1) Kill jar jar binks
2) Kill christopher lee, because the guy sucks in every way anyway...I cant believe they got that guy to play saruman.
3) PROMISE under contractual obligation not to do episodes 7,8 and 9.
4) Let steven spielberg direct. he's better, more talented and can actually write semi decent dialogue anyway, and does a sci fi with alot more style (I thought minority report and AI were very good...apart from haley joel osment) -
Jun 12, 2003 12:25:21 PM CDT
It's all one story you nimrods! That's why the characters are co
by sea bass
In ANH the droids already had ties to the Rebellion and Leia. In TESB Boba Fett already had ties to the Empire. In ANH Ben seemed to already know Chewie. So what's the freaking problem? If the movies were released in order no one would have a problem with it. It would be the same thing as if The Hobbit was released today and people whined that Bilbo and Gandalf knew each other and that we just had to see where he got the blue sword. Stop bitching and just enjoy the movie. Or stop bitching and ignore it. Just stop bitching.
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Can't be true. Ben doesn't know about the twin. In Empire he says that Luke is their last hope, Yoda says that there is another. Then again...R2 and C3PO have been to the Lars farm before Episode 4 and C3PO should know that the young Vader built him.
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The Star Wars Prequels deserve more love than they get!!!
http://www.livejournal.com/users/junorhane/7194.html -
Jun 12, 2003 12:40:57 PM CDT
This fucker will suck bigger than both EP I & II put together
by alucardvsdracula
Mark my words this fucker will suck bigger than both EP I & II put together. If anyone out there really thinks that Lucas even cares about making the FINAL SW movie (for now) as good as IT NEEDS TO BE be should just take a close look at everything his podgy hands have ever touched.
Granted ANH, EMPIRE and RAIDERS are pretty much as good as movies get - however just look at the rest of the toy makers other efforts:-
SW HOLIDAY SPECIAL, JEDI (90% OF IT), CAPTAIN EO, CARAVAN OF COURAGE, BATTLE FOR ENDOR, EWOKS & DROIDS AMIMATED SERIES, HOWARD THE DUCK, WILLOW, EP I & EPII - these abortions are enough to convert Jesus to Satanism!
I would love nothing better than for Lucas to deliver the film we all want to see, the film we've all had in our heads for years, the film that should be THE ULTIMATE SW MOVIE!
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I'm new here...but hey LUCA$, if you are out there...here's what Episode 3 needs to be like.
ANni and Pad have married in secret...which is forbidden in the jedi order....so Anni goes to Palpetine and says, hey, bro, I need you to hide this from everyone. Palp says sure...and all is fine...until Padme starts getting nervous that Anni is getting a little violent...and she's pregnant and nervous Annie will be mad because then he'll be found out by the jedi order. SOOOO then she goes to Obi-Wang and tells him that they married in secret BLAH BLAH BLAH. Obi Wang can't believe it...how did it stay a secret for 3 years?? SHe says, well, we told Palpetine. HOT DAMN! Obi Wang thinks...Dooku was right. A Sith is in ontrol!! Obi goes to Yoda and tells him. Obi confronts Annie and tells him that Padme is pregnant and that the gig is up! They'll have to kick him out of the order...and oh yeah, Palpetine is a bad guy. Annie goes nuts and fights Obi Wang. Obi kicks his ass. Darth Vader is born. Oh yeah, Chewbacca has a cameo. I AM THE SMARTEST FAN ALIVE! THAT'S your movie. -
You're equating US government politics with an entire UNIVERSE of people? Dumb...not even worth rebutting...
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I hated the whole: "What's the ID # on that droid?" or the fact that Anakin made C3PO by hand... when there are SHITLOADS of those C3POs out there.
It's like James Bond jumping out of an airplane and happening, by chance, to land on top of the roof of his childhood home. That would be stupid.
Next thing you know, they're gonna have Skandar Ackbar (sp?) jump out of the volcano lava and yell to Anakin... It's a trap!
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Jun 12, 2003 5:52:14 PM CDT
Seems like Lucas made the OT for himself and the New troligy for
by doubter
I remember seeing Star Wars (sorry I'll never get used to calling it A New Hope) when it first came out and it wasn't a movie for "kids." Kids just happened to like it. All the new scenes he added in the re-release (such as the scene when they come into Mos Eisley for the first time) were stupid and condescending IMHO. The new movies have taken the Disney Feature Animation approach (where you have to have silly comic relief doing gags to keep the 3 year olds entertained). Bad, bad, bad George!
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SPACE IS PRETTY BIG!
Some of you readers my remember growing up in a town of like 80,000 people. Remember that feeling you got when you bumped into someone you haven't seen since elementary school? Remember how the chances of ever seeing that person seemed SOOO slim?
Well, Mr. Lucas... WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS OF PLANETS AND ALL KINDS OF SOLAR SYSTEMS. Don't you think the odds of bumping into SOME of these people this often is a little crazy? THE ONLY WAY for it to work in Episode III is if you made it where Chewie was working in Tatoonine as a mechanic. We better not come across Chewie's home planet and have Obi Wan meet Chewie hanging at his crib. I am a MASSIVE Star Wars fan... so I am not angry. I am just having a hard time understanding why Lucas can't seem to pick up on such stuff...and am reluctant to admit that Lucas knows all this and he just figures his audience is too stupid to notice. -
Chewie says and Han translates in NH, and I quote " Where did you find that old fossil."
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i dont think your right out that, i read that the kessel run was done in 12 parsecs because Han took a route through a cluster of black holes, therefor cutting in distiance dawn to 12 parsecs. i was on one of the S.W. books about after the fall of the Empire. im not saying your dumb, or stupid, or a dumbass. just that your wrong, and i have too much free time
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This sounds pretty good. This would means Wookies play a key part in the revolution, and would've played an even bigger part if Endor was the wookie's home planet, now the fuckin' Ewoks! that would've been kick-ass, but oh well, maybe that's one thing lucas CAN fix with his self-proclaimed better additions to the originals. Erase all Ewoks and implant ferocious Wookies. Oh, and in episode three, please let there be a chess match between Jar-Jar Binks and Chewie, which Jar-Jar wins. You all know why, and god damn it, don't deny that you don't wanna see that.
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Lucas is an idiot. He got lucky with Episode 4. Everything else he has done afterwards has been shiat.
ESB wasn't directed by him, so his influence was minimized and the film was good. But let's look at the rest of his post-ANH ouvre:
The Star Wars Holiday Special: This is Lucas revealing his true colors. Everyone singing and dancing in a stupid jubilee.
RTJ: Muppetational, this-is-what-we-call-the-muppet-SHOW!!!! Nice bluescreen on the Rancor, ass. Ewoks prove that war can be cuddly and cute.
The Ewok TV specials: No comment needed.
Willow: "Hey, maybe I can retell my ONE STORY I EVER HAD, but with fantasy instead of sci-fi! The robots can be little pixies, the force can be magic, Han Solo can be a rogue warrior, etc., etc."
Howard the Duck: No comment needed.
Episodes 1 and 2: No comment needed.
Lucas sucks, and always has. He got lucky once. He is the cinematic equivalent of a one-hit-wonder.
Except he is worse than that. With a one-hit-wonder, at least you can listen to their one good song over and over again. But Lucas is systematically destroying his one good film, Episode 4. (Funny, I accidently held down shift when typing "4" and it came out "Episode $" -- how appropriate.) Disgusting. -
Jun 12, 2003 11:29:12 PM CDT
Actaully there's not question the OT would have gotten a pg-13 t
by thumper2k1
Lucas had to snip bits of ANH:SE to avoid getting a PG-13 rating. In particular, shots of people actually getting hit by laser fire.
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...but I actually found out that the whole point of the "werewolves and vampires" reference in Reloaded was a setup for the video game, where you actually DO get to fight a vampire. Got the info from a friend who pulled the game off of Kazaa. It kinda sucks that for the movie to make complete sense you had to (theoretically) waste $50 and a too many precious hours of your life on a game that so far has met with some pretty mixed reviews (mediocre at best).
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For the people who do not know who Chewbacca is, go to the address below. There, you will see his profile. If I find out that someone does not know who he is, I am gonna personally kick that ass. By the way, Harry... you do too much namedropping in your reviews. Knock of the crap and get right to the review. http://www.fondlepig.com/chewbacca.htm
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