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BACK TO THE FUTURE 4 without Zemeckis, Gale, Lloyd or Fox'

Hey folks, Harry here... from that cool UK magazine HOTDOG, comes this story that... well - it just doesn't excite me at all. Personally, I want a film about Christopher Lloyd & Mary Steenburgen and they're family somewhere in the far future, where nobody looks like Biff or Marty, where there is no planet and they try to discover what happened to the Earth and how to save it... Some big adventure for Doc Brown to wrap that noggin around. An adventure that requires the ingenuity of his wife and their genius offspring played by Luke and Owen Wilson. OK... so what's your idea for a 4th Back to the Future flick?

Hi fellow Back to the Future fans,

The 'future' looks bright! HotDog Magazine here in the UK is reporting movement on a new "Back to the Future" movie, albeit one a little dissapointing. It could be full-length animated!

HotDog reports :

"With the success of the recently released DVD trilogy it’s no surprise to learn that Universal wants another “Back to the Future” movie. Producer Bob Gale has said no, as has Director Robert Zemeckis and even stars Michael J.Fox and Christopher Lloyd. So is there a saving grace? For Universal, yes, and it may come in the form of Steven Spielberg. Spielberg has part say whether another film ever sees the light of day, and rumour has it he’s had briefs talks to Universal about it – even suggesting alternatives if the original cast and the original creative team don’t return. One of those options is to do an animated version of the film – based on the cartoons that spawned from the original series – which will keep Universal happy long enough for the original BTTF team to change their numbers."

Kinda exciting - but a "true" sequal wouldda been better


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  • June 5, 2003, 4:40 a.m. CST


    by redtom


  • June 5, 2003, 4:42 a.m. CST

    Christ, even Christopher Lloyd said no?

    by Andy Travis

    I love the guy, but has his career gone downhill or what? I'd have thought he'd hold on to this sucker for dear life.

  • June 5, 2003, 4:45 a.m. CST

    but seriously folks...

    by redtom

    ...yeah, it sounds a bit like a "lets make money from this 18 yr old franchise" decision - for originals still cool tho'... *** IndustryKiller - pistols at dawn? i don't do mornins... hows about jalapenos at lunchtime?

  • June 5, 2003, 4:45 a.m. CST

    'Great Scott'

    by Squirrel Boy

    i'm sorry but what would be the point. the trilogy rounded off great and harry's idea would be kinda cool, but why spoil the franchise. the cartoon wasn't brilliant, not many are these days, but if universal wanna do BTTF4 then force the original crew to do it, maybe surround them in a shed with a group of randy badgers or something involving spatulas.

  • June 5, 2003, 4:45 a.m. CST


    by Kamaji

    Well, hopefully, and now for my rebuttal: no to BTTF4! BTTF was and is the brainchild of Zemeckis and his former writing partner Bob Gale. We already have two half-with producers choking down their cigars and congratulating themselves on stealing the 'Terminator' franchise from James Cameron, but I personally think that Spielberg has more than enough brains to NOT do something as stupid as this. BTTf fans such as myself have been hearing rumors of BTTF4 for years on end. But really, the last thing we need is some contrived story about a couple of pre-teens who find the flux capacitor from the ruined DeLorean and then make it work again, or some story dealing with Doc's children. Couldn't we just leave it that Doc went back in time and enjoyed family life in one of his 'favorite historical eras?' Personally, the trend about makins sequels to 10+ year old films is getting old. Hannibal was unnecessary as is T3. At least Fox and Lloyd and the cast have the good foresight to move on (even if Lloyd is only doing cheap direc-to-video stuff).

  • June 5, 2003, 4:46 a.m. CST


    by Jedi2dope

    Wouldn't that be a hoot?

  • June 5, 2003, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Life is not worth living...

    by Dr_Zoidberg

    without the Keira Knightley banner.

  • June 5, 2003, 5:25 a.m. CST

    My Back to the future 4!!!!

    by Boss1

    I'd like to see a Back To The Future 4 where the Doc, Mary and there super genius son(Franky Munez)live in an earth thats about to enter it's 2nd iceage 2 million years to early. The Doc finds out that all there time travel has created a temperal rift, which is causing the natural order of time to be displaced. Therefore they must send thier son back one more time in order to stop the original trip into the past....But when thier son returns he is greeted by and extra deminsional evil doc and his evil son, they are causing the deadly phenomenon.. The extra deminsional Mary has died, so the evil doc plans on destroying the earth and kidnapping Mary before the good Doc can marry her, in order to be united with his one true love... Thus it is a race thru all three movies first stopping the events that will led to the destruction of the earth, and second to make sure that his father meets and marries the woman of his dreams, Mary...Can Franky stop the evil Doc and his evil twin... Well thats my Idea and they could make this movie by digitally adding Franky into into scenes from previous movies... Tell what you guys think ...excuse the spelling :-)

  • June 5, 2003, 5:33 a.m. CST


    by Boss1

    I'm not sure sinner I haven't read much about t3 plot line yet :-{

  • June 5, 2003, 6:47 a.m. CST

    They should get the Ferrall brother to play Docs sons

    by earthworm

    You know, Colin and Will. This sounds pretty awful by the way, why sully the memory? Still, if it's good enough for Lucas...

  • June 5, 2003, 7:02 a.m. CST

    How about a BTTF video game instead?

    by IdFuckAvril

    Something where you get to operate the Delorean and you have the freedom to go forward and backward in time -- but in doing so, you have to be careful not to run into yourself (the game would record your movements). THAT would be cool.

  • June 5, 2003, 7:17 a.m. CST

    If Lloyd passed on this-

    by RenoNevada2000

    -Yet still went and did TREMORS:THE SERIES how incredibly, mind-wogboggling stupendously bad must this idea truly be?

  • June 5, 2003, 7:57 a.m. CST


    by vicious_bastard

  • It'd be like the Jaws films if you took away the director and the stars! The car was destroyed, there's no point to continuing with a NEW car and different characters, or even worse the same characters but with different actors. I can't see someone as intelligent as Spielberg(shut up, SS haters) greenlighting a new movie knowing it won't have anything that made the originals into classics. Granted he made Lost World without the theme park setting that made the first movie so great, but that was a promise to Universal he made good on so he could go off to build Dreamworks and nothing more. ********** The Wilson twins, Harry? Good grief no! I could see Jake Gyllenhaal and Elijah Wood pulling off Jules and Verne(yeah, I know Wood was in BTTF2, what a great in-joke that'd be, Doc's kids were THERE!). But seriously, BTTF4 is a fan wet dream that'll never ever ever happen, just as we'll never see E.T.2, or Close Encounters of the Next Kind, or Gremlins 3, or Ghostbusters 3, or Goonies 2, or Star Wars Episodes 7, 8, and 9(although Lucas could change his mind on those three).

  • June 5, 2003, 8:05 a.m. CST


    by vicious_bastard

    There should be a spin-off starring Biff in which he mercilessly beats The Doc to death with a golf club then travels back in time to do it over and over again. Marty somehow ends up stranded in Victorian England where he contracts syphillis and spends the rest of his short life selling his Parkinson's-addled ass for scraps of bread. The twist comes when he inadvertantly infects his own great-great grandfather causing a chain reaction which leaves the space-time-continuum a pussy-yellow mess covered in scabs.

  • June 5, 2003, 8:19 a.m. CST

    It's all just a Doctor Who/Buckaroo Banzai ripoff anyway...

    by TheTARDIS

    Bring back The Doctor! Bring back Banzai!

  • June 5, 2003, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Great Scott no!

    by Heleno

    Unless that Wilson brothers idea happens. Those boys should be in everything.

  • June 5, 2003, 9 a.m. CST

    it should take place in the Roman Era. not.

    by Mr Brownstone

    But I still think Indy 4 should be about Indiana Jones and some babe being captured by aliens and taken to mars where they have to battle all cgi martians and and escape in a flying saucer that indy can barely learn to fly fast enough. I swear I am serious.

  • June 5, 2003, 9:10 a.m. CST

    But did Elizabeth Shue say no?

    by Big Bad Clone

    Just saw the cartoon again on some network a Saturday morning or two ago. I have to say time has not been kind to it (oh, I am ever so clever). It is about on par with the old Bill and Ted Excellent Adventures cartoon show. Badly animated and just sloppy looking.

  • June 5, 2003, 9:24 a.m. CST


    by SIR-SLEDGE450


  • June 5, 2003, 9:28 a.m. CST

    You see,i should feel bad for the above post, but i dont, beacau

    by SIR-SLEDGE450

    Thats the way sir-sledge450 is.To be honest,im dissapointed in the fanfare that didnt follow my return.I should be given a medal. I think i might do a sledges hammer of justice on the best HULK HOGAN jokes on here one day soon....

  • June 5, 2003, 9:50 a.m. CST

    They should just release "Back to the Future: The Ride" on DVD!

    by rev_skarekroe

    It had Lloyd and the-guy-who-played-Biff. Just put some hydraulics under your couch and it'll be just like the Universal Studios Orlando experience! sk

  • When it comes down to it, I don't want to see another movie at all, i'm happy with my trilogy. So once again I will say, SCREW THAT.

  • June 5, 2003, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Put the Franchise Down, and Nobody Gets Hurt.


    Every time my taste in film is in question, my co-workers throw BTTF in my face.At least once a week I have to defend myself.Don't give those fucks any more ammunition.Please.

  • June 5, 2003, 10:27 a.m. CST

    This is like the worst damn birthday present ever....

    by Kevin Bosch

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, this could always happen. Only cause the orginators don't want a hand in it doesn't mean th studio won't still make it. But it'll never happen. At least not like this. It's all bullshit. You know how many times some paper from the UK has reported that BTTF 4 was in the works? It's always some bullshit story. Speilberg making a BTTF movie without Gale and Zemeckis? I don't think so. The DVDs being a huge success? I wouldn't call it huge, atleast nothing to promt a new movie. An animated movie based on the animated series? Fox just announced that it's dumping it off it's saturday morning schdule in September. This is all just bullshit.

  • June 5, 2003, 10:40 a.m. CST

    "Isn't he a dream-boat?"

    by STHvenkmanWBA

    i watched willard just for crispin glover. it was alright. wish he was in more stuff. the other two BTTFs suffered for his absence. "it's dog, bufus"

  • June 5, 2003, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Am I the Only One?

    by PencilNeckedGeek

    Am I the only person who thought the second movie was weak, the third one was horrible, and the idea of a fourth my eyes roll out of the top of my head?

  • June 5, 2003, 11 a.m. CST

    dear lord, no

    by the boom

    You can call it Back to the Future 4 if you want to, but no sane human being will be fooled into thinking that it is still part of the franchise. I guess it's good for Universal that there are tons of stupid morons out there who will buy it. Hey, Universal, the Mona Lisa is hanging in the Louvre in Paris, in case you want to go take a dump on that too.

  • June 5, 2003, 11:05 a.m. CST

    The damn studio suits never cease to amaze me!!

    by Manaqua

    There is a reason why the DVD trilogy sold so well. The films are classic! There is a large slice of population that enjoys these films for a nastalgia value as well for their artistic merits. Making a new one, especially animated, will be completely missing the target audience of thats driving the sales of these films. Greed monger imbeciles. Can't somebody in Follywood have an original idea? Anyone?

  • June 5, 2003, 11:27 a.m. CST

    So very sad

    by Mechakong

    "Now more than ever the world needs my Back to the Future fan fiction" Thank you Boss 1 for proving that the Onion is not only brilliant satire but honest, compelling reporting

  • June 5, 2003, 11:29 a.m. CST

    "What are you lookin' at, butt-head?"

    by STHvenkmanWBA

    when is the future going to happen? i want my hover-board! airblade on PS2 just doesn't cut it. and where's my teenwolf DVD? goddamn it

  • June 5, 2003, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Therein lies the studio system. The original sare hot right now,

    by TheGinger Twit

    I keep telling all you fuckers -there's a big Two parter time travel film being made (in secret) that will blow every other time travel film out of the water! More details as they come!

  • June 5, 2003, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Therein lies the studio system. The originals are hot right now,

    by TheGinger Twit

    I keep telling all you fuckers -there's a big Two parter time travel film being made (in secret) that will blow every other time travel film out of the water! More details as they come!

  • IF Universal weren't so damned greedy and unimaginative and chickenshit all at the same time, they wouldn't be seeking to trowel out a completely UNnecessary chapter in this series. IT WAS WRAPPED UP PERFECTLY IN THE THIRD ONE! WE DON'T NEED A FUCKING FOURTH! And if Spielberg does go for it, he'll show himself to be a bigger whore than Lucas.

  • June 5, 2003, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Sequel Madness!

    by Shaner Jedi

    BTTF TRILOGY ended the story just fine. No need for another one. And not bringing back the original team is just another way for Universal to bank greenbacks. Enough.

  • June 5, 2003, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Frankie Muniz?

    by Darth Chode

    Boss1 can't be serious, right? Back to the Future IV starring Frankie Muniz? Pull your head outta yer ass. Excuse the spelling.

  • June 5, 2003, 1:55 p.m. CST

    didnt they already make one?

    by Jon E Cin

    I remember hearing about a back to the future 4 with Skeet ulrich being finished and shown to test audiences? Maybe I am crazy....but I remember something like this.

  • June 5, 2003, 2:01 p.m. CST

    The Sinner

    by zacdilone

    FYI, Tom Wilson is doing more with his life than comic book conventions. He's actually made something of his life, unlike all of us on Talkback.

  • June 5, 2003, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Sounds like Shiite

    by Wyrdy the Gerbil

    sounds like shiite redux

  • June 5, 2003, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Greedy studio

    by cooper2000

    These studios come up with money making ideas that are terrible. Why would anyone want to see this without the original talent? Its like t3 with everything different. Why do it other than a way to make money.

  • June 5, 2003, 3:17 p.m. CST


    by Voice_Guy

    Since they were in the 1800's, it isn't that inconceivable that blue prints or plans for the damaged delorean / Flux compacitor were left behind. Couldn't it be possible back in the sixties that one of Doc Brown's competitors aquired the blue prints and created his or her own time machine? Thus throwing the balance of time off. The future is changed, so Doc Brown in his Time-train goes back to the future (2005 AD) to insure things are set straight. If Lloyd said no to the project, they can say he died while traveling in time, when he arrives in Hill Valley 2005, he's dead. MCFly's son / daughter (as irony of Hollywood has it) just happens to be there when it happens, recognizes Doc Brown from their father's photographs. From there you can just use a cookie cutter plot, or just re-write BTTF II as BTTF IV.

  • June 5, 2003, 3:32 p.m. CST

    BTTF IV: the true plot

    by Ace Face

    Amrerican Idol contestants are dying on television in front of God and everybody. It turns out that a timed release chip conatining deadly toxins had been planted inside them during infancy. Someone must go back in time to prevent it from happening and find out who it is. It turns out to be ME!!!

  • June 5, 2003, 3:50 p.m. CST

    "You built a time machine......

    by The Gipper

    ....out of a piece of a steaming dung pile of an idea like that?" Let's not forget, Universal is the same studio that is so bereft of new ideas that they think that "reimagining" Battlestar Galactica with Starbuck as a woman is original. Maybe their former cheese-eating surrender monkey masters over in France at Viviendi thinks this is a good idea and everyone in France will go see it simply based on the name alone. BTTF is AMERICAN you jerks. Back off before we come and kick your sorry asses, too!


  • June 5, 2003, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Why? They don't need to make another movie.

    by Psyclops

    We had three of them, isn't that enough? They were all great and ended on a high note, we don't need to see another one... though I would like to see Harry's version of a future set Doc Brown movie if it has to happen. Luke and Owen Wilson? Genius.

  • June 5, 2003, 4:50 p.m. CST


    by Darth Borgnine

    E.T.2, or Close Encounters of the Next Kind, or Gremlins 3, or Ghostbusters 3, or Goonies 2 Who the fuck wants to see any of these???

  • June 5, 2003, 6:13 p.m. CST

    I can't believe you're quoting Hotdog Magazine on this site.

    by Cash Bailey

    It has about as much factual credibility as... well, ANYTHING that appears on this site.

  • June 5, 2003, 7:23 p.m. CST

    They should call it BACK TO THE FUTURE 12 and pretend like there

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    Set it in 2085 with descendants of either Marty or Doc. Have them visit the 1980s, done up as saccarine and fake as the 50s in BTTF, or have them interacting with events that occured in (the nonexistant) BACK TO THE FUTURE 6. So many possibilities there, but Fox and Lloyd wouldn't be needed for anything more than a cameo -- their stories are done.

  • June 5, 2003, 8:04 p.m. CST

    BTTF IV Rumor Debunked

    by martydmc12

    We at have already responded to this rumor, after Bob Gale responded to this mornings news. View it at:

  • June 5, 2003, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Maybe Hilary Swank could star in it ala Karate Kid (eom).

    by Phloton

  • June 5, 2003, 10:39 p.m. CST

    A New Trilogy

    by BuglePlanet

    If you ask me Universal should do a whole new trilogy involving the docs kids and their adventures threw time. Not an animated feature based on a show that lasted 2 season. They dont even need original cast members just as new trilogy with jules and verne and their experience w/ time travel. thats a good idea

  • June 6, 2003, 12:32 a.m. CST

    I guess taking a dump on every frame of the trilogy would be too

    by Tumulorum Fossor

    The subject line says it all. Damn! Why can't they leave well enough alone... ...Okay, you want a fricking idea for BackToTheFuture4? How about this? Biff, an avid movie fan, becomes enamored with the entire movie scene. He purchases a substantial DVD collection and commits to memory entire shot-for-shot sequences of several of the best movies over the past 30 years. He awaits McFly's inevitable arrival in the far future at the robotic Texaco station, pistol whips the kid, takes the DeLorean back in time, and becomes a famous movie director by merely spouting off his recollections of hit movies that have yet to be made. He is hailed as a wunderkind, until he runs out of his pool of hit movies that he "plagiarized" from the alternate timeline, and sets about making CG animated sequels as a last ditch attempt to squeeze out every last dime out of the tired storylines. Some of Biff's cartoons: E.3. - the ExtraTerrestial. Jaws4 - the Musical. Schindler's Other List. Saving Private Reagan. Goonies2 - Goonies In Rehab. and, the most anticipated CG-only sequel: MoneyPit 2 - The Remodelling.

  • June 6, 2003, 1:28 a.m. CST

    I hate Manure...

    by DogshitterWants

    If they seriously want another BTTF, why not get Christopher Lloyd to star in a prequel. It would show various scenes from 1955 from his POV, from inventing the flux capacitor, meeting Marty, sending him back to the future, and then follow him into the eighties where he meets Marty again but has to avoid telling him that he will one day go back in time. Sounds confusing, but could work.

  • June 6, 2003, 1:53 a.m. CST


    by Evilash61

    is nothing in hollywood sacred

  • June 6, 2003, 2:47 a.m. CST

    What is it with you people anyway?

    by St.Buggering

    You all sit around bitching and moaning that all Hollywood does anymore is pump out sequels, but everytime the possibility arises, you all jump out of your shorts to cream over the idea of a sequel to some geek classic. Well let me be the dissenter here: I do NOT want to see Evil Dead IV. I do NOT want to see Back to the Future IV. I don't want Buckaroo Banzai Against The World Crime League, Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind, or even Doctor Detroit - The Wrath of Mom. These films should be left alone. It's over. Go home. Go.

  • June 6, 2003, 2:49 a.m. CST

    Here's what you do: Cast Rob Schneider as Marty's cousin Deuce M

    by jules windex

    Bring back Christopher Lloyd and Crispin Glover. Find a place to have werewolves and monkeys and drunken dead deer intercourse, and you've got a summer tentpole right there.

  • June 6, 2003, 3:08 a.m. CST

    How about "Back To The Future: OLD BIFF'S BIG QUEST"

    by ZeroCorpse

    What? You thought old Biff just went back to his younger self and gave him the almanac? No! Old Biff actually visited several time periods! He went back in time to the Jurassic period and beat up a small dinosaur, and then he went forward to 2050 where he got a body rejuvenation so he could live another 75 years, and then he hopped back to 1982 where he proceeded to romance Suzanne Somers, and finally he made a quick jaunt to 1939 where he met his ancestor, Hermann Von Tannner, a top Nazi agent! Finally, he heads to his own time, where he is promptly run over by a tranked hoverboard gang.

  • June 6, 2003, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Re. Christopher Lloyd

    by BadMOFO

    Andy Travis - I beg to differ. Lloyd's career has not gone downhill. He's doing Haunted Lighthouse for Joe Dante and co-starring with BBTF's Lea Thompson. Sounds good to me!

  • June 6, 2003, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Bad, bad, bad idea

    by Salem Hanna

    Haven't Hollywood execs learnt to leave a franchise in peace when it's tied itself up? If you wanna make a sequel, keep the ending PROPERLY open. Seeing that train fly at the end of Part 3 says to me: 'everyone's alive and well, there may be big things for everyone ahead but they'll never meet again.' They should leave it at that. Anyone agree?

  • June 6, 2003, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Hot Dog magazine

    by The Gipper

    Isn't that a gay porno mag?

  • June 6, 2003, 12:01 p.m. CST

    28 days from now, I won't even remember this TB even existed.

    by Yossarian

  • June 6, 2003, 1:26 p.m. CST

    another bad idea

    by frank cotton

    they just never end, do they?

  • June 6, 2003, 1:41 p.m. CST

    How about a prequel trilogy that stars a talking baby, dog, cat

    by BannthisUcommies

    that were genetically engineered by real aliens who live on the 10 planet in our solar system which is warm because of an invisible sun. EXCUSE ME whilst I VOMIT....

  • June 6, 2003, 6:55 p.m. CST

    BOSS 1, that's a good idea for a sequel. Of course, it all rest

    by Ralph Cifaretto

    Could work, though. I like the idea of going back to all 3 previous films.

  • June 6, 2003, 7:29 p.m. CST

    I heard J Fox was gonna try and spasm his way through this...

    by Brainoblivion

    and Muhammed ali was gonna play the Doc... "Marty, you've got to come back with me." Where Doc?""Back to the clinic, im shaking more than Roseanne's vibrator..."

  • June 6, 2003, 11:47 p.m. CST

    Leave it as a Trilogy....don't fuck with it.

    by Monkey_King

    Although I did enjoy the cartoon, short-lived as it was.

  • June 7, 2003, 10:22 a.m. CST

    anyone who doesn't like Back to the Future has no soul.

    by Tall_Boy

    That means you're SATAN!!! *throws holy water at yuo*

  • June 7, 2003, 1:22 p.m. CST

    BTTF: IV...

    by Kid Z

    ... Marty's daughter has to use the Time Train to repeatedly go back in time 20 minutes because her inept boyfriend screwed up a deal and lost 100,000 credits (that's what they use from money in the future, trust me) which belongs to a mob boss (Yep!, another Tannen). She has to figure out a way to get the money and get to him in that short a time perio... OH... wait a... SHIT! Never mind!

  • June 7, 2003, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Or how about if we steal...

    by Kid Z

    ... an overused old plot from Deep Space Nine have it involve traveling to an alternate space-time continuum where the evil Tannen family rules the galaxy?

  • April 8, 2004, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Back to the Future IV Poster

    by jswinger

    Hey guys, check this concept out later

  • July 20, 2004, 5:22 a.m. CST

    bttf ride on dvd please

    by jennifer parker

    To me harry potter is the new bttf in a way, and the new starwars. But if there was a new film Id love to see an entirely new cast, with loyd or fox just stepping in somewhere in the middle somehow to give a hint to the earlier movies. I think something with young kids, maybe the docs children. Most of all though I can't afford to see the bttf ride, should release it as bonus material or something, include it with the next trilogy boxset :)

  • Nov. 13, 2010, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Bttf is already made

    by jeffro8666

    Ladies and Gentle Men I am Jeffrey Kinckner and I have already created bttf 4,5,and 6. Planning it out but check it out and watch Marty and Doc go on their last 3 adventures before its to late. And remember don't get lost in time!