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3 Additional Pics on TROY!
Hey folks, Harry here... This is definitely a gal flick... Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana, Sean Bean... Right there, that's enough catnip to send the whole of female kind into sweaty moaning delusional raptures.... Then you add Brian Cox, Peter O'Toole and Brendan Gleeson... and they'll just freak from the manliness of this flick. Of course with Saffron Burrows and Julie Christie and Diane Kruger... they might be able to con a few of us guys to see this sword and sandal flick. So what do you want to see more... Wolfgang Petersen's TROY or Oliver Stone's ALEXANDER or Antoine Fuqua's KING ARTHUR (which by the way, why the fuck is Kiera Knightley undergoing sword training for Guinevere... fucking politically correct bullshit, that's why!)? Here's the jewels from a Trojan Extra...
Hi Harry,
Check out the following link and the extra pictures that appeared in the printed version of the Times:
By the way there will be no "big wooden horsey" here as far as I understand. this is based on the Illiad not the Odyssey.
Cheers.
Trojan Extra
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yeah, i really couldn't give a rat's ass about this project. this is the first time i've actually read news about it. good lord. btw, Harry, that PC bullshit you were talking about with Gwen learning sword fighting - absolutely true. and i bet she's witty and will kick at least one man in the testicles. good Lord, i'm ready for that girl-power trip to be done with. i'm all for women having power, just not the ball kick. it's so tried. it's like a "renegade" dog in a family comedy biting the villain's butt and tearing away part of his pants. double if he's wearing hearts boxers.
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Ya know, that whole Brad Pitt Eric Bana thing. Ya know.
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This film indirectly caused Aronofsky's 'The Fountain' to go into turnaround! Mr. Pitt, thrall of Leviathan, cast Aronofsky's possible SF masterpiece aside for this higher-paid, high-exposure, high-falutin' colossus of a movie. Source material notwithstanding, this will hulk along like an overgrown hick. Avoid.
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... sure hope they keep that part of the story intact, if it is indeed based upon the Iliad. Just because it'd be the one thing I'd expect Hollywood to puss out on.
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If this film "indirectly" caused The Fountain to be shelved, why boycott it? I mean, if it was an accident and nobody INTENTIONALLY quashed The Fountain, where does the ire come from? It stupid assholes like you that create problems that don't exist. Do you even think about what you write for one fucking second?
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You won't go see this movie unless it has "raping" in it. Yeah, you and the boycott guy should go out to coffee together.
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May 12, 2003 3:31:37 AM CDT
The "big wooden horsey" was IN the illiad (and not the odyssey),
by jbum
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Fantastic pics. That is why I love filmmaking. The miniatures. I'm dying to see this one.
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Grow the hell up. Aronofsky has yet to produce anything worth boycotting a film over, let alone boycotting this sweet baby. I would be more inclined to boycott Brad's films over his failure to commit to "To the white sea" but the boy's just so damn pretty, and such a fine actor, that I just can't bring myself to do it. Meet Joe Black aside, he's made some fine films recently. And I am especially going to see this if there's any chance of seeing him (and Eric, and Orlando, and Sean etc etc etc) in one of those little leather skirt things looking a little grubby from all the sand and general manliness all round...
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... and as I can see from these pics the walls of Troy reminds me walls from Minoic civilization structures. Well hell , Bradd Pitt is in too. Something tells me that Odysseus- who was the brain of the greek army- won't have a big part in this flick and another thing tells me I will not go and see it.
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May 12, 2003 5:07:59 AM CDT
"See Kids that right there well, thats a shitty looking wall of
by kicker_of_elves
... and last but not least kids, we have the restoration of Hugh Hefner's Great Great Granddad's Very own Playboy Mansion before it became the symbol of freedom it is today.."
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Or what about if they built this big wooden Badger... Come on it had to be said!!! Cheers.
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Sounds like they are already looking toward doing the Odyssey so they can wrap up the storyline. For those who don't know it, The Illiad does not tell the entire story of the war. It ends after the death of the Trojan hero, Hector (the final line of the Illiad is "Thus held they funeral for Hector tamer of horses"). The story of the wooden horse and how the war ends is told by Odysseus in the Odyssey. With Sean Bean as Odysseus, I can hardly wait to see a modern, big screen adaption of my favorite book!
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Nice touch!
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We get it in brief in the Odyssey, but the story as we've all come to know it was recounted in full in the Aeneid, by the Latin author Virgil. The Aeneid is the tale of Aeneas, who escapes the destruction of Troy with a small number of Trojans and sails off to his destiny as the progenitor of the Latin race. As I understand it, Aeneas appears in the script of Troy as a young boy.
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Or an enormous badger.
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Ahh... I see someone already did the "wooden rabbit" joke. Sorry about that. Nee.
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May 12, 2003 8:49:17 AM CDT
Keira Knightly resonates with the emotional intelligence of Grah
by zeedarteretz
And we've come full circle
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I do want this one to be good, the cast alone is worth going nuts over, but production photos for this might as well have been taken from TNT's "Helen of Troy." To be fair, photos of sets never get me excited. The LotR set photos did nothing for me either. They just don't tell me how the movie is going to look and feel, and that's what I really care about.
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they are taking all the mythological fun out of the story. No Ares storming through Achaean ranks--No Apollo raining down arrows..No Aphrodite attacked by Diomedes..No Hephaestus and his golden robot maidens...
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May 12, 2003 9:46:13 AM CDT
Which one am I looking forward to most? Frankly, I think they AL
by salem hanna
I have enough faith in all three directors to assume none of them will drop the ball TOO much, plus with that kind of money and those casting lists, the potential is mouth-watering. Which will be the best? I'll pass judgement when I've seen all three.
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May 12, 2003 10:42:15 AM CDT
Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!
by rampagingtroll
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was it in the odyessy? i can't remember. I know it was in the Aenied, but thats a Roman story, not Greek. They'll never stick just to the Iliad because it doesn't show the end of the war. Whats the betting they have Hector killed in a big final battle that ends with the destruction of Troy? I hope i'm wrong.
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Braveheart! Gladiator! The 13th Warrior! Monty Python and the Holy Grail! These kinds of movies kick all kinds of ass. And the next few years will be the Golden Age of Epics, with this, Oliver Stone's Alexander, Baz Luhrman's Alexander, King Arthur, Timeline, Return of the King, and more! All you talkbackers show your epic movie respect, or I shall be forced to fart in your general direction.
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May 12, 2003 4:00:01 PM CDT
The Eternal Question: Beware Greeks Bearing Gifts, or Don't Loo
by drath
This issue over the Trojan Horse keeps coming up, and people keep yammering about how the horse wasn't in the Iliad. So what if it wasn't in the Iliad, the fact is the Horse WAS the end of the war. If the movie is supposed to cover that, then why isn't it featuring the most iconic element of the event? If the movie ends before the end of the war, well then there you go, instant sequel material.
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Very, very cynical casting. There's pretty hunks for folks and 'serious' actors for good measure. I'm expecting grandiose dialogue but mostly nice sets and quick cutting. Proceed with caution.
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I can't believe the education of this clown. Don't make a statement unless you are certain of it. THE TROJAN HORSE WAS THE ILLIAD! Go back to school you moron.
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May 12, 2003 7:20:01 PM CDT
I'm Not exactly The Authority On Robin Hood Myths, But I'm Prett
by iloveewksandjjar
Though I am tired of the rule that damsels in distress have to kick ass, a fact that will prevent me from enjoying Pirates of the Carribean as much as I would have.
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Here is the lowdown on the wooden horse and where it does and does not appear. The horse does not appear in the Illiad since it ends before the end of the war. It does appear in the Odyssey, but as more of a side note as Odysseus speaks to the shade of Achilles in the underworld and tells how brave Neoptolemus (Achilles' son) was as they waited in the horse and then attacked from within the walls of Troy. The only ancient work (surviving) that goes into detail of the horse is "The Fall of Troy" by Quintas of Smyrna who tells of the end of the war in great detail. All of these works are recommended readin, of course. Oh yes, the Aeneid is the source of this famous quote as well Trojans, trust not the horse. "Whatever it be, I fear the Greeks, even when bringing gifts."
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Okay
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that they are making "Boudicca" with Rachel Weiz as the warrior queen. Fuck I hope it comes through! She was the female version of William Wallace. She fucken made the Romans piss themselves dry.
I hope Keira Knightley pulls Guenivere off well. We need a good one somewhere...hey, maybe they'll show her as the Celtic Cleopatra sort, sleeps with any man for her own gain!!!
And I still don't fucken like the idea of Helen and Paris running off into the sunset. Fucken buggers!!!
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I don't actually mind kick ass heroines. I thought FOTR was marginally better for having an interesting (and fit) female character. And to take a Bond girl example, who do you prefer out of Tanya (Oh James) Roberts or Michelle Yeoh (sp?) On a side note, does anyone know if these Arthur movies are based on the Bernard Cornwell novels? It'll be cool if they are.
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It would be fantastic if the Arthur stuff was based on the Bernard Cornwell novels in that they give a fantastic depiction of how that society would have been at the time - with Britain reeling from the fall of Rome and the invasion of the Saxons and the attempts by the ancient Celts to reassert themselves and the Picts attacking from the North and Christianity gaining a foothold. However, there's also a lot to be said for the more traditional Morte d'Arthur stuff, cause everyone needs a hero. My learned friend with the treatise on greek and celtic mythology is right on - celtic women did fight alongside the men on occasion, although it was by no means the norm. The Irish god of War / death, the Morrigan, was a woman, and it was a woman who began the biggest war in Irish Bronze age mythology, Queen Maeve of Connaught and the Cattle Raid of Cooley or Tain Bo Culaigh (?not sure of my spelling there). However, women in celtic mythology as a rule were not warriors, and to my knowledge there is no reason to believe that guinivere herself was particularly kick ass. As for her origin, I'd always heard she was either Welsh or French not Pictish. And for all you Brits reading this, beware! Smack the POny has made a film called Gladiatress, set at around the time of the Romans and featuring Boadicea type characters, which is (as of the rough cut I saw recently) pretty dire.
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I've heard Fiona Allen talking about that, and it sounded truly awful. She seemed kind of embarrassed. As regards Arthur stuff, the Morte d'Arthur stuff is good but we've got Excalibur already. The Cornwell stories at least put a fresh slant on the idea (though not that there's anything wrong with the source.) And as regards Celtic women fighting, thats very believable, as their modern day equivalents are often such battleaxes...
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This is the epic that I would love to see. Last I heard Michael Mann was slated to direct. Also, a movie about Boudicca would be amazing and Rachel Weisz would be great in the part. The Romans were scared of her because she sacrificed them to the gods whenever they were captured.
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