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'Trailer' For the INDIANA JONES DVDs!!
Even with the terrifying new title, you won't find five better films than “Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark”!
(Thanks to RoboGeek for the heads up!)
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Huh, never saw that one.
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May 06, 2003 9:48:07 PM CDT
the "Raiders" title change is almost as bad as the walkie-talkie
by beamish13
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May 06, 2003 9:54:25 PM CDT
At least they didn't screw with the content of the films
by son of batboy
The title change I can live with. Just slip in a new custom print job. CG Indy or whatever other cartoony shit they could have pulled would have meant murder. For the puny amount of extras on here, these films should have been out years ago.
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sweet awesomeness!
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May 06, 2003 9:57:09 PM CDT
It's been called "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark"
by shabbadoo
And why's it terrifying? It's an Indiana Jones flick...I don't see anything too terrible in having his name at the front of the title...maybe that's just me.
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Between "walkie-talkies"(I love the recent South Park episode that blasted spielberg for that crap!) and "Greedo shooting first"(face it george...Han killed that fucker like the pirate/survivalist that he is!), I can't even begin to imagine how these two are going to fuck up the Indy dvd's! A walkie talkie instead of a whip & revolver?! Jar Jar Binks as Indy's long lost sidekick?! And what do I hear...they don't plan to sell the Indy films separately, but as a set only?! MEMO TO GEORGE - EWOK - LUCAS & STEVEN - RESPONSIBLE FOR HOOK - SPIELBERG: *ahem*, "INDIANA JONES & THE TEMPLE OF DOOM SUCKS ASS, AND THUS, I DO NOT WISH TO OWN IT ON DVD. Do the world a fucking favor and at least give the option of separate title purchase. ****I will not hold my breath on that request!
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But will it have the Ewoks?
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May 06, 2003 10:20:11 PM CDT
For all you assholes bitching over every little thing, just be t
by atticus finch
If adventure has a name, it must be Indiana Jones.
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May 06, 2003 10:23:00 PM CDT
Well, Jeffrey Goines, a quick check on the IMDB backs me up with
by shabbadoo
Raiders of the Lost Ark: "Also Known As: Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) (USA: video title) [I was off a year when I guessed 1982]". I grew up with a VHS copy of this flick, man. I've watched the movie about 10 squillion times and can quote it verbatim. This is a rare case where I actually know what I'm talking about.
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one of the five best movies ever made, but so what. Im with the guy that said, lets toss TEMPLE OF DOOM out the window because just recently seeing that one in the theatre solidified my disdain towards children in films. Spielberg won't do commentaries because he believes they take away from the viewing experience, but who watches a movie for the first time with a commentary? No one. I am surprised that ol' Lucas isn't doing one though.
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Settle down, man. I know I'm right here. You're not gonna' change my mind, no matter what names you call me.
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This title change has been in effect since the aformentioned VHS rerelease of the late 90's. Only the packaging listed the movie as "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark." The opening credits continue to identify the film as "Raiders of the Lost Ark." I imagine the DVD will be the same. Stupid, yes, but in the end the film remains unharmed.
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May 06, 2003 11:00:38 PM CDT
For you folks that're worried about Lucas and Spielberg making a
by shabbadoo
This is according to the official announcement: "Aside from the digital cleaning, no alterations were made to any of the moves." Hopefully that'll put those worries to rest.
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May 06, 2003 11:01:24 PM CDT
No Commentary !?!!! They can't sit for 2 hours and talk !?
by darth siskel iii
Not even ILM commentary !? LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He thinks the film should be allowed to speak for itself; hence all the extra material on Spielberg DVDs are separate content like documentaries and retrospective interviews. I'm guessing Lucas wanted commentaries but Spielberg overruled him. No biggie, really, 90% of commentaries are shit and the documentaries on Spielberg discs are always well-produced. Incidentally there's no MSRP for this set but most places will be selling it for around $49.95. Four discs at that price is a damn good deal IMO.
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Had too...
Title change - Don't care
DVD's - Finally, kick ass!!!
Commentaries - Need them, want them, got to have them. Steven, why not?
Bickering between friendless, lifeless, masturbating a sport not just an obligation, basement-dwelling, stained-shirt from eating too much pasta, (realizing the irony from making fun of talkbackers using the posting board as a medium, thus becoming a talkbacker myself, so no need to point it out assholes) talkbackers - Not really priceless but something "less" -
THAT was a hell of a title change. Very nice work, my friend.
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May 06, 2003 11:35:00 PM CDT
THE SWORDFIGHTER SCENE IN "RAIDERS" HAS BEEN ALTERED!!
by kevin costner
The scene where Indy is running around lookin' for Karen Allen in the crowded marketplace and ends up being challenged by a big burly arabic swordfigher with a scimitar has been changed. In this new edition the swordfighter pulls a gun and fires at Harrison Ford first, just barely missing his head giving Ford a justifiable reason to shoot back. Hey, that makes the movie much better for the youngin's don't it?
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May 06, 2003 11:49:43 PM CDT
Folks you know what? Folks you know whtat? What Doug? What Doug?
by bezman1
Kevin Costner - That was funny the first time I heard it...about a month ago on a different talk back.
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Yeah, but it still strikes fear in the hearts of every talkbacker...
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i mean seriously, yay. bout fucking time.
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Personally, I dont see the point in purchasing this bullshit. All 3 movies.. Gee, only they are making a 4th now right??? Soooooooooo buy the FOUR DISK SET when IT comes out I guess? Fucking lemmings. And no.. Spielburg doesn't own part of the DTS configuration, its wholey owned and liscensed by Sony. Lucas and Spielburg lost their sacks a LONG time ago.. and have been going thru the motions ever since.
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I heard Lucas always regreted not including that character. Short Round was supposed to hit the big German dude in the fight in front of the plane with a bucket to save Indy instead of the blade cutting up his face. Then he gives Indy a high five, Indy says "thanks kid" and they hug. Movie magic.
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I think because he can't speak fluently.
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May 07, 2003 1:28:19 AM CDT
Lucas is going to ruin alot of Indiana Jones scenes like he ruin
by joeblowe
I mean why make the planes complete CGI? They don't fit in with the surrounding scenes at all, like those big hairy things added to star wars and the jabba scenes. And what is with the "they're bad people because they shot first" bullcrap? In both movies Harrison Ford's characters already have justifiable reason to shoot/attack first.. the people are trying to kill him for ****'s sake, he's not going to wait around for them to get a perfect shot at him.
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The title has always been Raiders until 1999, when it was first changed for consistency in the Complete Adventures of Indiana Jones. See the discussion on AICN when it was first discussed at http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=4419
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Raiders is a classic. Temple and Crusade sucked donkey balls plain and simple. Raiders was dark, brooding, funny, scary, and exciting. Temple and Crusade substituted all that for cheap laughs, poor story flow, and weak ideas. Cut outs and form filling monkeys could have done as good a job with the 2nd two. Raiders was fantastic.. the others sucked. Plain and simple. Buying this 2 disk set is a waste of your money, and supports further weak-assed film making. Raiders deserved a first class clean up and 5.1 with the actors in commentary. On a side note, Did ANYONE ever notice, when Marion and Indy escape from the temple by moving the last block? If you watch closely, the block almost bounces when it hits as it falls. This was because the scene originally had a Nazi standing there. Indy clocks him with a rock from behind by reaching thru the gap, then pushes the block on top of him where he has fallen. Bet ya didnt know that now DID ya? :)
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Screw commentary from Lucas and Spielberg, they're both freakish, snobby dicks as far as I'm concerned. Well, Lucas more than Spielberg. What would be nice is commentary from the actors. I don't really want to listen to Lucas or Spielberg go on and on about technical details on how they set up this shot, or how they had to rework this detail from the script to shooting, or any of that stuff. I'd be more interested in hearing the actors relate their experiences, amusing anecdotes and the like. The Indiana Jones movies are FUN movies. They're fun to watch. They have that excellent action/comedy blend. And as a viewer, I'd like to hear that it was fun for the actors, that they have fond memories of the experience. It'd just bring something more to it for me. But I guess we're cheated of even this...
Then again, if they ever do make a 4th Indy movie, I suppose we can expect a repackaged "Special Collector's Edition Box Set." After all, as long as Lucas is involved he's going to milk every freaking penny he can out of his old successes. And who can blame him? All of his latest endeavors have been painfully awkward and embarrassing. If he ever releases the original Star Wars movies on DVD, I just pray he has the good sense to put both versions on the discs - the originals and the none-too-impressive special editions with all the bogus, er, bonus footage and CGI shit. At least give us - the viewers, the consumers, the people who pay to put food in your friggin' mouth - the option to have the version we prefer. -
The movie was known as Raiders of the Lost Ark until they released the movies on VHS in the '90s along with all of the Young Indiana Jones Adventures. They became adventures 26 through 30 or something like that and the movie was then changed to the name Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark. Don't trust the IMDB with some of those name things. They have Star Wars listed as Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope (1981), and we all know that it wasn't known by that name back in '81. Sure, they added the Episode IV and A New Hope title cards to the opening crawl, but none of the promotional material or video releases referred to the movie as Episode IV. It wasn't until TPM was released that these became the official titles of the movies.
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There was a VHS boxed set released with this title attached. I have a bootleg DVD from Malaysia (presumably recorded from the laserdiscs), and it also carries that title. I guess it helps them market it as a trilogy. Frankly, I don't care if they call it "The Care Bears Movie", as long as I get it on DVD. And yes, I will buy it even though I own a bootleg, so all you self-righteous prigs just keep it to yourselves.
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I just want Raiders on DVD, but don't want to pay over 50 bucks for it. Those other two movies are dead to me. I don't want a fourh disc with Lucas saying, "How great am I? How great am I?" The bonus disc should have had "Great Movie Stunts and the Making of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'." Oh gee, that was back when men were men, and the movie was called "Raiders of the Lost Ark."
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I'm happy/relieved they're coming out on dvd.... but the films deserve at least a 2 disc set each. What's going on? There must be more archive stuff available than what's appearing on this fourth disc.... after all this time...
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I'll be here all week, sadly... tip your waitress and goodnight!
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Why does the title 'Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark' suck donkey's balls? Because if any of you dumb fucks actually watched the movie you'd notice a little something... Indiana Jones IS one of the Raiders of the Lost Ark! Other than the Nazis, who the fuck else is there! You dumb fucks.
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For fucks sake, lighten up geeks. Chances are if you asked the majority of civilians they'd probably tell you thats what the movie waas called in any case, and long before 1999. It just means it fits in slightly better with the series, and indeed the whole 1940's serial style on which it was based. That said, if they actually change the content of the film I'll personally hunt down Spielberg and pry the original master from his cold dead hand. And Domi'InnerChild, thats sheer movie golddust, golddust I tell you.
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Will 'Great Movie Stunts...' and 'Making of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'' be on the bonus disc? I fuckin' hope so. And 'Making of IJ & temple of doom'?
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JG: I'm with you on the DTS support but, unfortunately, Lucas is the one who actually owns the films and his people (either at Skywalker Sound or THX) helped Dolby develop their Dolby-EX sound format while TPM was being made. So Lucas claims a bit of the Dolby interest (this is also why the Star Wars DVDs had no DTS tracks.) Plus that, DTS is a notorious data hog because of its very high bitrate, and I suppose it could be argued that the data saved by the absence of DTS could be donated to the video side of the presentation (again mirroring the SW DVDs, where their producer, Van Ling, stated the video quality was the #1 priority, so DTS was dropped.) And as far as "the 3 movies having shit for extras" goes, well... yeah, that's what the 4th disc is for. Why so upset? (And according to thedigitalbits.com, Lucasfilms says the majority of the extras will be announced in the coming weeks and months, so we have yet to see what's in store for these DVDs after all.) TO LARGO: "Spielburg (sic) doesn't own part of the DTS configuration, its wholey owned and liscensed by Sony." I can't say for sure whether or not Spielberg has any financial piece of DTS (although, as Goines mentioned, he seems to prefer the format, AND that Jurassic Park was the first movie widely-released in DTS,) but I can tell you that Sony doesn't own jack squat of their technology. DTS is wholly owned and licensed by Digital Theatre Systems, Inc., in Agoura Hills, CA. That is, unless you know something I don't... and I'm sure the executives at SDDS would like to hear more about it as well. ;-) (Oh, and I have the LDs, too, but anamorphic, 5.1 DVDs can't be beat on a 56" 16:9 TV!)
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Get out more ;-)
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Look, everyone calls it 'Raiders'...they could change the name to Young Han Solo and the Raiders of the Graffiti and people would still call it "Raiders". You people have to complain about everything, don't you? You know what you are? Negative Nancies, that's what.
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10. Short Round now called "height and circumferenced challenged person of Asian American decent"
9. Indy's Whip changed to six foot Cherry Twizzler and available at the concession stand
8. German dude attacks Indy with giant mug of beer, prop spews Warsteiner all over tail of plane.
7. Indian villagers in Temple of Doom given digitized cell phones, Univeristy now seen in background
6. Ark of the Covenant now called " God's Mystery Box", made non-denominational
5. Willie Scott given short hair and changed from nightclub singer to attorney , threatens Indy with harrassment suit throught Temple of Doom
4. Dates laced with "Monkey-Go-Sleep" labeled potion
3. Enslaved children in Temple of Doom now seen making Nike footwear.
2. All Nazis smoke Camels.
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May 07, 2003 8:06:21 AM CDT
I hear that in the RAIDERS DVD the idol has been replaced by a w
by cash bailey
Something about not wanting to offend any descendents of Ancient Mayan civilisations, Muslims or black people or some crap like that.
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seemed so unbelievably overexcited. Was he pleased these films are coming out on DVD? Or was he getting a blow job? I finally had a chance to see Raiders on the big screen for the first time earlier this year. I was amazed at how much I was absorbed into this world. The photography really bowled me over. And Marian and Beloque (sp?) in the tent is done in one continuous shot for about a minute and a half. And seeing it with an audience. Groans at Alfred Molina with a spike through his head... Shrinking back from the spiders and snakes. No sign of the Cambridge Arts Picturehouse putting on the other films.
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look, I loved the character Jim Varney created, doesn't mean all his movies are worth owning on DVD. Buying something just because something is part of a set is like saying you would buy all 11 DVDS ina set just becasue you loved the characters in Star Trek. Sorry.. most of THOSE movies sucked donkey balls too, so I have no intention of buying any set they may yet come out with again on that either. Stop paying for bad movies.. and they will stop making them. Or is it just a coincidence that you need to take out a small loan to take the family to the movies these days?
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Would you like hot fresh transmission fluid on your gargantua-sized styrofome packing peanutes for an aditional 50 cents sir?
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May 07, 2003 9:48:42 AM CDT
MonkeyButt, your logic is so stupid I must immediately validate
by vegas
Even though Diana Ross was one of the Supremes, they are referred to as Diana Ross AND the Supremes. When Hakeem Olajuwon was one of the Houston Rockets, sometimes they'd come onto the court with the announcer saying "Hakeem Olajuwon and your Houston Rockets." Just because it's Indiana Jones AND the Raiders of the Lost Ark, doesn't mean that he cannot be considered one himself. You're grasping for bitch straws. Also, the title change doesn't bother me, because on the film, the title is RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK. It is nice that it makes it easier to file the films away, it is also nice that if it bothers you so much, you can print your own dvd cover with the IJ removed from the title, and it is also nice that I don't go to the movies with bitches like these "fans" who don't enjoy ANYTHING anymore, and who only scour movie/dvd sites for spoilers and release info so they can be the first on their block to whine, whine, whine.
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All the guys who have already posted that the title was first changed in the late 90's are right! When the trilogy was re-released on VHS, along with several installments of "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles", it was changed to keep continuity within the entire series. They were all numbered chronologically as well, with the movies being the last ones in the series. Also, it is not changed in the opening credits of the actual film. Only the packaging. What are you, a bunch of ten year olds who can't remember back that far? Bunch of whiners! People bitch & moan about not having these movies on DVD, and the minute they're announced, you find something else to bitch about. I hate you all.
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May 07, 2003 10:37:23 AM CDT
The release of "Raiders" may be the best DVD news since the form
by spider15
They've announced that upon initial release, it will be a four-disc set, with pretty much just the movies on each of the first three discs, and the bonus material on the fourth. They already did this with "The Godfather" and "Back to the Future," in each case which I'd really rather just have the first film. Now I enjoyed "Temple of Doom" and "Last Crusade," and I wouldn't mind having them on DVD; but neither of those films are the masterpiece that "Raiders" is. I just think that we should have the option of buying the films individually, izzall. Actually, to be fair, according to dvdreview.com, the Indiana Jones movies WILL be available individually at some point (so far can't say that for the "Godfather" series). And of course, we should all be grateful that Lucas and Spielberg have decided not to use CGI to alter the films in any way, shape or form. So I guess in this case the good news outweighs the not-so-good.
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Fair points. I'll give you that. But why an intelligent one such as yourself would seemingly support another example of Lucas's revisionism bullshit is beyond me. I still think the title sucks major ass. The original title was and is one of the coolest ever, on the box or otherwise. Lucas is no longer the cool visionary he once was.
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May 07, 2003 12:54:10 PM CDT
"People bitch & moan about not having these movies on DVD, and t
by shabbadoo
I'm with this guy.
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Listen to him explain on the "1941" DVD why "1941" was such a complete box-office failure. "The FRENCH loved it." Priceless. Oh and "Temple of Doom" was already re-released with changes - - they retitled it "Goonies."
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May 07, 2003 4:09:09 PM CDT
The actual title in the credits isn't being changed you morons!
by batutta
They changed the packaging years ago, but the opening credits only say Raiders of the Lost Ark. As long as they keep it that way they could put Indiana's Anal Gang Bang on the cover for all I care.
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May 07, 2003 4:51:28 PM CDT
"Give me the print, George, we have to make THE ALTERATIONS!"
by tall_boy
"Remember Lucas, you belong to me!!"
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We've been waiting YEARS for the Indiana Jones trilogy to come to DVD and what do you people do? Bitch and complain. "I don't like the title!" "The seqeuals suck, why do I have to buy them!" There's no commentary, why not?" "Lucas and Spilberg are gonna change the movie, wahh wahh wahhhhh!" SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU BUNCH OF VIRGINS! For Christs sake, enjoy the fact that these classics are finally on DVD. The sequels don't suck, just b/c they're not as good as RIADERS. They're good in their own right. TEMPLE OF DOOM and LAST CRUSADE are better than 90% of all other action films. And who cares if they change the title on the box? The title stays the same in the film. All of you bitching about this need to seriously get laid, with a real woman preferebly. Save some money and get a call girl if you can't pick up a regular chick. Fuck, what a bunch of dickwads.
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all fucking three of em, cuz well, Raiders is fucking bliss but having the two after that to "tie this shit all together" is the chocolate frosting on the cake. I saw Temple in the theater when I was a wee lad and that shit set standards for adventure. I loved them all, and they even stand up to repeated crap viewings on TBS (with all the shitty quality commercials and edits). I'll take the threepack, thankyou.
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May 07, 2003 8:04:53 PM CDT
To quote Abe Simpson, "Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch!"
by discogodfather
All this nitpicking about the Indy DVDs, and not ONE mention on the site of the triumphant long-awaited DVD release a couple weeks ago of the timeless American classic "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo"? For shame!
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whew thinking about these flicks makes me drool... I can't understand why people think TOD is poor, I mean, the whole club scene, going right into the river tube scene, and the locales, being soo exotic and strange, and Indy turning all evil and shit, (but leaving it mysterious evil enough to induce chills) is classic. in every sense. Last crusade was just too damn funny. Im laughing thinking about scenes from that right now,,, they are all perfect 10/10 each one.
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"Star Wars: Episode IV, A New Hope"
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The real reason is in a few years a new DVD format will come out call HD-DVD, which will make the current DVD format obsolete. They wants to make money on this version of DVD format and release it again when the new HD-DVD comes out. If there no HD-DVD then no way will Steve and George will release Indy on DVD. It all about MONEY.
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i think you guys have finally gone too far.. everyone quit your fucking bitching about every-fucking-thing.. jesus fucking christ in a fucking ziplock bag, does anyone just enjoy movies anymore? bitch bitch bitch bitch.
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And congratulations for deflating my pretentious, condescending rambling in the span of only 3 words. How do you do that?! ;-)
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What the fuck did you expect, they're lame when it comes to DVD releases. You'd think everyone would have learned that already from the extreme screwing we've gotten on previous Paramount owned properties. Just look at the crap they put out for Star Trek as a prime example. $100 for a season of TNG? When I can get a season of The X-Files for far cheaper? And I don't think I've *ever* seen a DTS encoded disc from Paramount unless it was a joint venture with another studio.
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May 09, 2003 9:44:33 AM CDT
Get over it - IJATROTLA is exactly what it should be called!
by theginger twit
As for you dip shits who hate Lucas and Spielberg - what the fuck do you want? Medals? Fuck off. These two men are better than you!
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May 09, 2003 10:06:34 AM CDT
You guys really wanna bitch about the sequels... wait for Indy 4
by theginger twit
And as for the Star Wars Special editions - say what you like, Return of the Jedi is a shit load better than the original... This extra scenes in jabba's palace helped continuety. That song was much more fun. The celebrations through out the end. The new ewok song. Excellent work! Oh, and you can't deny the enjoyment factor of Last Crusade. Speilberg and Lucas gave us sheer fun with established characters!
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...when that poor Indian peasant was strapped into the cage ("OH-NAM-SHIVA, OH-NAM-SHIVA,OH-NAM-SHIVA!!!") had his beating heart ripped from his chest, and then lowered into boiling lava. To add insult to injury, the happless bastard bursts into flames before he even gets to the lava, screaming all the way to his death! A brutal death scene...way to go Spielberg! After dropping that scene in, I was shocked he changed mere guns to walkie-talkies in E.T.! ____The only other death scene I can think of that compares to the sheer horror is Torrez having his screaming head ripped from his neck in Romero's Day of the Dead.
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hi this is my first post but i just wanted to add that i own a video store and we have both "Raiders of the lost ark" and "Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost ark". The version with "Indiana Jones" in the title is a later release that came in a box set with all 3 movies. If someone already said this i apologize.
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The only things I like about Temple are those scenes between the first and last minute of the film. Anything else is crap.
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