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New HULK Trailer + review of HULK Movie Book Adaptation + comments on LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN Trailer!
Hey folks, Harry here... Just got back from the Midnight screening of X2 at the Alamo Drafthouse which sold out all 4 screens with heavy duty geek audiences. Before the film was the old "PRYDE OF THE X-MEN" cartoon, which really underlined just how far the X-MEN have come under the guidance of Singer, Donner, DeSanto and crew. Just amazing quality difference. ANYWAY, before the movie I saw this new HULK trailer, but also the new LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMAN trailer which look far far faaaaaar better than those early teasers. No more funky green sky. The Jekyll / Hyde stuff looks downright creepy, and now it looks like a Norrington film... Somehow, even that damn car that I hated last time looked way better. I really want LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN to work out for all of us, because... As great as these Marvel films are... there's a whole universe of wildly divergent comic properties out there that deserve and warrant screen time....
Before you read Fathead's look at the HULK novelization, here's the latest HULK trailer that I've already gone frame by frame on 3 times, cuz... well I just love them Kirby panels brought to life. I also love how they're keeping pretty much the entire last 30-40 minutes under wraps in the trailers. SWEET. Hope it stays that way. Here Ya Go! Hulk Out! Oh, and you may want to watch out for a couple of spoilers below...
Hey Harry,
This is my first time writing in, but I am a huge fan of the site and visit it on a daily basis. Anyway, I am writing in with a review of the new novel version of the upcoming HULK movie. I saw this when I was online at my local Borders Books the other day so I picked it up. All I can say is WOW. I can’t believe how much I enjoyed this book. I never read any of the HULK comics, and vaguely remember clips of a green-slathered Lou Ferrigno running through some forest or something, but I was really impressed with the way they fleshed-out the characters.
Bruce is thoroughly tormented by these inner demons, and you really get a sense of how much it affects him with his work and especially his relationship with Betty Ross. Betty is in love with Bruce, but she isn’t pleased how unresponsive he constantly is. They had a relationship going which is described, but it was broken off, and now they are just good friends. It is extremely evident that she wants there to be more, and so does Bruce, but they don’t have any idea how to go about it. You really feel for Bruce because he’s got all this shit bottled up, and he can’t express his emotions like he feels he should, and he keeps convincing himself that its normal to be detached.
A lot of this is due to shit from his father, David Banner. A good portion of the beginning of the book is devoted to setting up the back story with David Banner, and his son Bruce. You really get a sense of what an asshole he is, and just when you think something is about to change, and he is going to stop being a douche bag, he puts a stop to that thought, and you say “JUST DIE ALREADY YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!” Sorry, got a little carried away……but, he is responsible for almost all of the negative shit Bruce goes through. The trailers are deceiving too, he plays a much larger part in the book than they lead you to believe.
General “Thunderbolt” Ross, who is Betty’s father doesn’t really impress me all that much, maybe this will change by the time the movie is released though. You do get the sense that he is a very important and powerful character, but something about him just didn’t click with me about him. Maybe because he’s the only one who doesn’t call the HULK, what he’s been dubbed, but instead, he decides to call him Angry Man.
Glen Talbot, this guy is someone you want to see the HULK smash to itty bitty pieces, then put back together so he can do it again. God I hated this guy, but everything rectifies itself, so it was OK in the end.
That’s about it for the main characters………except for the title character himself. This massive beast is absolutely awesome! This guy is Gi-normous, and should be astounding to see in the theater. As silly as it may sound, the much discussed Hulk Dogs scene should be pretty cool too. If there was any fear about how they may portray a monstrous green beast, it has been eliminated. I don’t really know what to say about the plot without giving anything away, because it’s all about Bruce and his struggle to really kind of find himself.
Unfortunately there will be no naked Jennifer Connelly, so there are points off for that, but it’s understandable. How would naked Jennifer Connelly have anything to do with a man who morphs in to a big green walking wrecking ball?
The action scenes are pretty wild, or at least the way my head translated them are. ILM better not mess this up, because this shit is important, and we don’t want to see Jar Jar when he gets angry. He’s not pretty when he’s angry. Come to think of it, he’s not pretty at all. Stupid Gungan. George you suck, let someone else direct Episode 3.
Anyway I’m starting to rant, so it’s time to end this review. I cannot wait for this movie, and I have the utmost faith in Ang Lee to make this something other than “The Jolly Green Giant Takes San Francisco”. If the movie is at least as good as the book, then we will be in for a fantastic ride.
P.S. – If you use this, call me FatHead
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my friend will looks like the hulk. he ends all his emails 'will smash!' "hulk just want cake. that is all there is to it."
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May 02, 2003 5:15:04 AM CDT
I think the sequel should be called Hulk Dog Soldiers with Hulk
by chaffro
"Grraahhh graahh graa. Raaah rahh, grrr, brother."
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But I will go see the hulk
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The League trailer didn't look good to me... It'd be shame if they've ruined it... But Hulk looks like it could be the better comic book film this summer. Also X2 - liked it but I was flabbergasted at how many beautiful women there were acting in it... I didn't who to shag first? At the moment I think I'm with Kelly Hu, but it was f*cking off-putting. I just couldn't decide.
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STHvenkmanWBA want anna paquin. that is all there is to it. my friend will is not as fussy.
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Is corny. And where's the guy who chased him from the TV series?
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affleck does that 'don't make me angry' line in dogma, is it as bad? fave hulk reference is in the usual suspects, cop chasing keyser soze likened to mr mcghee. anybody seen 'chopper' starring eric bana? recommended! "nice to see ya bald patch has gone, keithy!"
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May 02, 2003 5:37:44 AM CDT
Jar Jar On lots of Crack and after being turned away from the Pl
by kicker_of_elves
Looks Like a Fun Movie...
Fuck "First!!" posters too by the way, you can all go shack up in a tool shack and die.. -
Went to see X-2 here in London last night and was blown away. Thankfully it also erradicated any memory of seeing the The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen trailer beforehand(or just The League as voiceover man was referring to it). It seems to be hijacked as a Sean Connery vehicle, probably by a marketing department who don't know how to sell it. Being a fan of the comic, I accepted that it would have to be made as more audience frienly type film but this just looks bad. Hopefully Ill be eating my words when it comes out.
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so whats the thing in the water?
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Has anyone noticed the Hulk POODLE yet?
If you go through the latest trailer frame by frame during the dog attack sequence there is the rottweiler type dog in the tree but also a more 'femine'
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Can someone explain to me the running gag with Hulk Hogan?
He may have those 28inch Pythons and the founder of Hulkamania...but I know he is worth the odd gag or two.
"what ya gona do!" -
to the person asking about what was in the water at the end of X2, it was a phoenix.... ah ha ha ha ha!!
bwahahahahahaha!!!
that is so fucking cool!!!!
harry's review really does say it just right. this movie rocks.
we got the league trailer here in OZ, still not convinced on that one, persoanlly think its looking like a bit too much of the later batman movies and not enough of the daredevil and x-men if you catch my drift. and yes, when did it become a sean connery vehicle?
new hulk trailer (only seen online) looks very nice, still unsure as to the CGI, am reserving judgement on final cut, coz there were some shots that looked really really good.
dear god when will somebody get their shit together and get DC back on track with their movies eh? marvel is kicking their ass five ways from sunday!!!
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I'm happy he wrote the novelization to the Hulk Movie. I always loved his run on the Hulk, granted it's not the same thing, but to see him do the Hulk again is great!
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I personally can't wait for HULK, cos although I'm not 100% on the story line (like many people give a damn), the action will sure be something. As for LXG...hmm...I'm not sure what to think...I'm getting mixed vibes from this. I want it to be good, but then again, a major comic-to-film conversion has still yet to suck(although Blade 2 wasn't the greatest).
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Spare a thought for me, you lucky bastards. I live in Australia and all I got was 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS, NATIONAL SECURITY (with that fat, talentless sambo Martin Lawrence) and that first MATRIX RELOADED teaser that came out about 18 months ago. Fuck that noise! I was SURE I'd get some bad-ass trailers to check out, but the sheer ball-tearing coolness of X-2 more than made up for it.
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I still rather see gamma bomb go off at the test site, though. This laboratory stuff looks a bit too much like Norman Osborn turning into Green Goblin in Spider-Man. And I like the "real" look as opposed to Gotham City or Dick Tracy or DareDevil look. A page out of Bryan Singer's book or homage to the TV show?
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jpx.An open mind is a terrible thing to waste. You da man. . . or woman even. Hey STH .
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They're already working on the script.
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I think he should go to a fishing tournament and face off against a hulk-bass.
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i like the hulk from the mego theatre in wizard mag. he eats cake and hangs with a particularly sardonic spidey and well pissed iron man.
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The international trailer kicked my ass, but this one gave me goosebumps. I DID see the "Hulk Poodle" after I went thru it frame by frame and I did kinda cringe, but at least it looks like the Hulk makes quick work of him. Did anyone notice him hitching a ride a fighter jet?? Holy crap, that was cool!
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Darker'n a black steer's tuchus on a moonless night. I think Sam Eliot should have narrated this film. Oh, and Jennifer Connelly noooooooooooooooooooooodity is ALWAYS highly relevant, no matter what the film.
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The shark still looks fake.
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And of course, sharks's name is Bruce. And there's lots of sharkjumping in the trailer.
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And of course, sharks's name is Bruce. And there's lots of sharkjumping in the trailer.
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because jpx and his friends won't go see it on opening weekend. Everyone knows that their influence cannot be denied. And that CGI looks too computer generated. UGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! To quote the immortal Dee Snider, You're all worthless and weak.
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Hulk will smash box office records galore and all you nay-sayers will be apologizing to the rest of us!! You just wait and see! You know I'm right!!
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Couldn't you just say that "National Security" sucked without referring to Martin Lawrence as a "fat Sambo", you racist asshole? Cretins like you give morons a bad name!
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Sorry folks, but I had all the comic to film projects I could possible want take in last months. Hulk looks artificial as hell, he moves completely unrealistic and my whole feeling was that he did not correspond with the rest of pictures. After seeing the poor story of Daredevil and the great X2 I believe that Hulk will not be successful here in Europe, where the whole Mavel-Heroes are not as big as they are in the US.
Even my favorite girl Ms. Conelly will not be able to save that one for me.
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May 02, 2003 1:32:21 PM CDT
When I was six I was afraid Bill Bixby would turn into the Hulk
by benedicto
The old Incredible Hulk TV show scared the hell out of me when I was little. Everytime someone would pick a fight with "David" Banner, I would run out of the room because I knew his eyes would turn bright green, he'd bulge out of his clothes and suddenly he's Lou Ferrigno in body paint. The CGI Hulk looks pretty scary too. Anybody still complaining about how fake it looks should realize that anybody with those impossible body proportions would not seem real. But that's what the comic book Hulk looks like. His proportions are totally unrealistic but look cool in drawings.
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I just read that Warners is planning to pick up on the long-put off Catwoman movie but with Halle Berry replacing Michelle Pfeiffer. I mean I guess the Batman universe is totally color-blind (Two Face flipped completely from Billy Dee Williams in the first film over to Tommy Lee Jones by the third) so I guess anything is possible.
Personally I'm glad she won't be back for X-Men 3 cause I never thought they got the hair right (always looked like a bad wig) for her plus Storm should have been played by a much taller and more willowy actress.
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The clips from the trailer during the Super Bowl had to have been preliminary CGI effects. What I remembered from that trailer was that the Hulk looked horrible. The clips from the new trailer are a vast improvement from the Super Bowl.
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May 02, 2003 2:02:17 PM CDT
GODAMNIT!!! I fucking reported this "new" LXG trailer almost 2 m
by largojr
Are you fucking shitting me? hes only NOW talking about it? GEEZUS!! Fine.. if this is the speed at which the "NEWS is posted, then I wont even bother sending in my review OF the movie. I got to see it a few days ago.. and Harry can kiss my dimpled ass if he thinks im going to tell him anything. I sent in reviews of Hypercube, and X-2.. LONG before anyone else.. [shrug]
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Are they still going with the idea that his dad experimented on him as a kid and that the Gamma radiation triggered the dormant crap from those experiments. Until this trailer, I thought they lost that crap, and even now the dialogue could have been explained away as metaphorical, but I think I caught a glimpse of a hypodermic needle and Bruce in a crib. Anyone know what's up?
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In no way this movie would have worked with a person painted green! There is NO seven foot tall human being that weights approximately 1,000 of pure muscle that could have done the role! Yeah, a rubber suit could have been great! SUUUUUURE! Guess what, CGI is going to look CGI regardless. Deal with it. On my part, I am going to see this movie on opening weekend!
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May 02, 2003 3:30:51 PM CDT
"George you suck, let someone else direct Episode 3" yeah, that
by tall_boy
do the human gene pool a favour and stick your head into an oven and die.
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Absolutely awful that you fucknuts don't know that's the Phoenix in Jean at the end of the movie. I thought it was a great cliffhanger ending to the movie. Hell, they hinted on the Phoenix Saga throughout the damn movie.
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awesome beyond anthing.
fucking hulk he kicks ass like crazy.
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The Hulk trailer looks great...assuming that it's for a cartoon! The Hulk couldn't look any more fake if he was pitching breakfast cereal. Freaking awful.
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what is wrong with some of these hulk fanatics? Are they shiites?
Any nomral person can see that the Hulk CGI looks like shit.
Infact in several scenes his facial epressions look exactly like he is taking a shit in his tighty shorts.
This is the worst piece of cgi crap i have seen ever. ILM should be ashamed of themselves for putting out such subpar CGI.
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May 03, 2003 1:55:48 AM CDT
The HULK trailer was good except for that voice-over narration t
by ribbons
"Don't be a pussy; get mad, beat stuff up and unleash the inner hero inside. Then you can get chicks like Jennifer Connelly and beat up dogs."
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I thought it was passable in the others, but aside from a couple of shots, it looked pretty cartoony in this one. Hopefully it'll look better on the big screen.
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I was out of line calling Martin Lawrence a 'sambo', but my intention with the comment was honestly intended, if ambiguously delivered. We all hate Martin Lawrence, for whatever reason. For a lot of people it isn't just becasue he isn't funny, but the fact that with every single movie he shits into existence he sets the representation of the black race in cinema back about thirty years. Martin Lawrence IS a sambo by the very definition of ther word in that he makes his fortune reverting back to every single black stereotype that black performers have been trying to escape for the past fifty years. Watch BAMBOOZLED and you'll see that Spike Lee put the idea forward first that gangsta rap and today's black comedians are the modern minstral show. It's hardly a new opinion, but for me Martin Lawrence typifies that reversion back to black performers playing up the old stereotypes for the white man's dollar. In particular, while I was watching the trailer for NATIONAL SECURITY, after watching the tenth shot of something blowing up for no apparent reason, everytime Martin Lawrence turns to the camera and gives a look straight out of a Mantan Moreland short. I'm sure if they held the shot he'd put his hand on his nouth and say something like "Sorry, Bawss, did I's bad?" That's his shtick. Who is this guy's audience? I can only figure it must be racist whites who, like Spike said in BAMBOOZLED, feel reassured to see black people supplicate themselves for the white man's entertainment. God knows, that's how %80 of rap music is sold. I sincerely hope it's not black people who are keeping this guy in work. I'm Australian, and we're legendary for out 'cultural cringe'. That is to say that we despise seeing stereotypes about us being perpetuated, especially by one of our own. Surely the black community (outside of Spike Lee) feel the same way. So I sincerely apologise if my comment caused offense. I realise it was out of line, out of context and I should have explained myself at the time.
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The Link for the Hulk trailer didn't work for me. If anyone else is having the same trouble, try this link:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/the_hulk/international/
Its probably not worth your time though. Personally I think the CGI sucks. Everything else looked good, I just couldn't buy it. Too fake. Hopefully the story and other production values are good enough that I can sit back and just enjoy it like an expensive cartoon. I can live with that. -
I am worried about 'LXG' (which in itself is a little concerning as a name - wonder why they wanted the 'X' there? :/) THe addition of the all american new super spy and Tom Sawyer???? And revealing Mina's identity as a vamp, on the website - isn't that supposed to be something you figure out, and therefore be a bit of a suprise? I appreciate that it needs to be audience friendly, but this seems to be dumbed down as much as a cartoon Dumb and Dumber might be.
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We did get LXG in front of X2, but the other was some absolute CRAP movie with Matt Damon and Greg Kinnear playing Siamese twins, I shit you not. "Stuck on You," I think was the title? And I winced, because Matt can be OK, but with the exception of some nice moments in Dogma, he's not the most inspired comedic worker. Ugh. *shivers, thinking about it*
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May 03, 2003 9:57:06 AM CDT
Shut up with the Hulk Hogan lines. They're getting old.
by screenplaywriter
Everytime there's a post you got a come on here and do like that Kurt Angle-loving-ass-kissing-fan boy did and quote his lines. It's getting old, think of another wrestler to do, or just be yourself.
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Not to nitpick . . . well yeah, okay so it's a nitpick. Watch the trailer again. Right after they dispatch the jets to get him, a house blows up and Hulk goes flying. Later on, they blow up the same house again. This time, no hulk in the foreground. Same scene twice. Once with CG Hulk. Once without. And oh yeah, the one with CG Hulk, thr Hulk has a very long shadow and the tree next to him does not. Hell, even the house doesn't cast a shadow. You'd think the creative people would take care of this before the trailer is released. Sure you have to examine it frame by frame to see it, but it's there . . . or in the case of some shadows, I should say it's not there. Oh well, enough with the nitpicking.
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There's gotta be a reasonable explanation for the house thing. Just because you're looking for mistakes (CG shadows? Pfft) doesn't mean that the filmmakers are so incompetent they don't even realize they're blowing up the same house twice. Maybe one is a dream sequence or something.
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Let's just move on.
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Agreed as far as LXG goes. I'm willing to give it a shot because of Norrington, but I don't really have high hopes for it or even think that I'll enjoy it that much. And I'm glad I'm not the only one who was put off by how fake Nemo's ship looked, especially when it was resurfacing, not to mention Hyde and the swirling mass of bats that formed Mina Harker. This is supposed to be an $80 million movie? Where did all the money go? Did it get washed away in Prague? I'd still be up to see it regardless of dodgy effects if I didn't fear that it may need style to save itself. We'll find out soon enough, I suppose. And the Hulk looks amazing. I've had no problem accepting the CGI in the trailers; it doesn't always look utterly jaw-dropping (how jaded we all are), but this is some of the best effects work ever done. Plus the Hulk emotes like a true thespian, which is cool.
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You CGI Hulk critical people are living in a dream world. Let me state a fact: It is IMPOSSIBLE to create TOTALLY REALISTIC human type characters with CGI. It has never been done and it never will be done unless AI advances to where computers can do it on their own, and that is a whole new world. The best huamn characters so far have been in Final Fantasy and the Animatrix feature that played before Dreamcatcher. Sure, you may be able to fool the human eye and mind with one frame of a CGI human, but once he begins moving around, it will always look CGI. Even Spider-Man in his costume always looked "fake", but still very cool. The Hulk looks off the chart cool fromw what I've seen. Of course he isn't going to look totally "real"....this ain't happening in our lifetime or in our children's lifetime, so DEAL WITH IT. They will continue to get closer and closer and cooler and cooler with CGI, but it is NEVER going to look REAL!!!
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And don't try to say that Gollum looked totally real..he didn't, and he was a fictionaly cartoony creature, not human. Once you try to do a regular human, it makes it 100x more difficult. And the Hulk is essentially a very large human with a human face. I think ILM has done a damn good job from what I've seen...I would have liked to see what Square could have done, as they raised the bar with the Animatrix short that played before Dreamcatcher. If you haven't seen it yet, you will love it when the DVD is released in June. But the Hulk looks damn good...we really are getting jaded as others have pointed out.
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I saw the lxg trailer, and any one that complains about CG need to complain about this before they complain about the hulk. One of the "monsters" looked faker than the scorpion king from the mummy returns.
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i went to see X2 on its release and i just wanna say that the LXG trailer looked fantastic, i mean Sean Connery kicks ass, although his wig is kinda stupid and i'm sorry any hulk fans but it looked a bit pooh, although Jenny Connely looked very nice.
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the new lxg trailer gives me hope that we'll finally see something other than super-guys in plastic costumes forever
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I was "lucky" enough to get to see both the new trailer for the Hulk and LXG in front of X2, and I was quite surprised to see that LXG looked a great deal better than I thought possible. From what I'd heard it seemed that the film-maker's intent was to jettison as much of Moore's personality and quirky originality as possible (i.e., favoring Quatermain over Ms. Murray as the leader, making her a vampire) and I'm sure a lot of the great woman-bashing lines have been removed for political reasons, but it at least looked mildly (if mindlessly) entertaining. As for the Hulk design, I think he looks somewhat cartoony, but that's not what really bothers me. When it's just his upper body in the frame, I think he looks just fine. But he's so immensely wide in proportion to his height that he just ends up looking like a spiky-haired midget covered in green paint. The scene where he's making those huge leaps across the desert (and the screen, natch), dodging 20mm cannon fire? I actually started laughing in the theatre--not cause I'm especially mean-spirited or cynical, but just cause he looked like a midget long-jump record holder. He's just too wide for his height. But Nick Nolte is just doing great work, and I can't wait to see him on the screen. The Good Thief was so awesome, everything Ocean's 11 should have been, but fell woefully short of. Nolte just seemed so relaxed in the role, but also very energized. He was just so much fun to watch. Happy Mother's Day. (Smiley face).
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Per the trailer and 20th Century Fox, it ain't called "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" no more. Just "The League" now. But that's so lame. YOU know they're the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I know they're the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. THEY know they're the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. OK, so there's one hot gentlewoman on the crew (Mina). Did 20th think people wouldn't know that? Too many words to fit on a marquee?
"The League" sounds like a baseball movie. Or a football movie. Or a TV show. So now is 20th going to lose the "LXG" logo? How cool can "L" be ? Jeez. From the people who gave you "X-2: X-Men United," two weeks before showtime, 20th Century "we can't make up our minds" Fox presents "The League."
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Since I am the one who first called you racist for your "Sambo" comment, let me say I'm glad you explained yourself. I am Black, and I agree with much of what you said about Martin Lawrence and the perpetuation of racist stereotypes. It didn't come across in your initial comment, but now I think I understand where you are coming from. Moving on!
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