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UNDERWORLD trailer set for you to sink your teeth in!

Published at:  Apr 18, 2003 5:18:16 PM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here with the new UNDERWORLD Teaser which is apparently getting an IGN wide debut... and everything we've heard about it looking like some weird cross between THE MATRIX, DARK CITY, THE CROW and a movie monster showdown... well it seems the comparison was very apt... It also looks damn good in my opinion... Go check it out!




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  • Apr 18, 2003 5:23:40 PM CDT

    Werewolfs!

    by man-thing

    Very Cool! Like to see new "breeds" of Lycanthropes making their way to the big screen.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 5:24:28 PM CDT

    Werewolfs!

    by man-thing

    Very Cool! Like to see new "breeds" of Lycanthropes making their way to the big screen.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 5:27:29 PM CDT

    Underworld. VERY cool concept!

    by acappellaman

    If this movie is pulled off right, it could be a HUGE hit, especially with the timing. Werewolves + vampires = sweetness. I'm looking forward to it! Oh, and Kate Beckinsdale is pretty easy on the eyes too. She made watching Pearl Harbor actually worthwhile. Yum!

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  • Apr 18, 2003 5:29:45 PM CDT

    Uh, no.

    by dale_cooper

    This is one of the most derivative, silly trailers I've seen. You can almost pick any 5 second chunk and name the one or more better movies it was lifted from. Sadly, in a couple of cases, "Resident Evil" is the source material. Yeesh.

    I think rather than watching this, I'll rent a bunch of TV/VCR's and watch "Blade," "The Matrix," "Resident Evil," "The Crow," "X-Men," and "Spider-man" all at once. At least then only 40% or so of what I'm watching will suck.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 5:38:03 PM CDT

    add a splash of Blade to this jambalya

    by oneragga

    Doesn't look BAD, but it's not terribly original in its LOOK either. The most interesting shot was that of the long haired Lycan running after the car; that was the first attempt I've seen regarding that effect that didn't reek of an undercranked camera. But the Wolves on the walls...Reapers from Blade 2. The outfits, guns, fighting styles, flips...Matrix. The...I mean, Underworld seems Underwhelming. I'll let the next trailer assist in my decision to see this in a theatre. It's just missing that extra something, that certain...idon'tknowwhat. That which elevates it from ripoff to HOMAGE...something IMHO, The Matrix did regarding Hong Kong cinema, and Equilibrium did regarding The Matrix. These films threw a new spin on the action and the story to put a fresh spin on things. SO far....I'm like, SO?

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  • Apr 18, 2003 5:47:11 PM CDT

    ok this movie rocks!

    by redeye2000

    just what I want, a nice fast story that plays out like a comic. and not a slow bulsshit horror story.

    cool moves, kick ass werewolves and kick ass vampires. damn this movie is gonna rock! can't wait for the quicktime trailer.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 5:49:38 PM CDT

    kick ass

    by smutpeddlar

    that kicked ass

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:17:10 PM CDT

    Color Me Surprised

    by saluki

    What looked to be a low budget effort now looks to be solid entertainment.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:26:42 PM CDT

    Enter the Underworldmatrixdaredevilblade!

    by hipcheck13

    What's that old saw? "Steal an idea from one person it's plagerism - steal from three and it's research." Seriously - the concept's great but couldn't they come up with another way to present it that WASN'T derivative of matrixbladedaredevil?

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:37:41 PM CDT

    LOOKS UNBELIEVABLY UNORIGINAL AND CONTRIVED

    by inkymae

    But I still can't wait to see it.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:38:08 PM CDT

    can

    by mathesonlegends

  • Apr 18, 2003 6:40:22 PM CDT

    I LIED!

    by inkymae

    I can wait to see it. A VERY LONG TIME.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:43:25 PM CDT

    I am very curious about this movie....

    by george_w_bush

    because I am of low intelligence.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:45:00 PM CDT

    Not to lay any more madame pretentious bullshit out here,

    by gypsytrobot

    but yes the trailer looks derivative and the effects look fake, somewhere between Mummy 2 and Spiderman in quality.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:50:22 PM CDT

    london night studios

    by fatmancometh

    This looks like an adaptation for Razor, visually speaking. Many of the shots, and frames looks like somehting from a London Night Studios comic books. The shot of the chick in the ledge of the balcony looks very much like a Razor cover, and the one with her standing with the moon in the background as well, except Razor has that funky blade on her wrist.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 6:54:41 PM CDT

    Bruce Campbell IS Dracula

    by scienceman

    There ought to be a law forbidding vampire movies. Anne Rice should have her pretentious too-cool-for-school butt put in jail. Bram Stoker's corpse should be dug up and thrown in the ocean. Vampires aren't real. The whole vampire thing is good for one thing and one thing only - making loser high school kids with bad complexions start wearing all black outfits and thinking they're part of some secret society where they run around college campuses late at night playing live-action role playing games before they go home to play Magic: The Gathering and strike out with girls. Vampires indeed. Jesus... but they're so darn COOL! I wish I could be one tenth as Gothic as they are. Gee whiz wow! Maybe I'll start pancaking my face in white make-up and acting very mysterious and laugh at private jokes in the presence of mere mortals so they get an idea of just what an otherworldly power I am. Vampires don't exist. George Clooney killed them all, even Cheech Marin. Maybe a movie where Seth Gecko and Ash team up to kill Vampires would be neato, I'll admit that. Or werewolves fighting undead pirates led by Johnny Depp, until they realize they're in the Matrix and have to join forces to fight 100 Agent Smiths. Vampires make me want to puke.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 7:13:53 PM CDT

    Okay? Looks cool but on IMDB it shows that it was written by two

    by chuckrussel

    'nuff said.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 7:25:31 PM CDT

    I think what you all really mean to say is "I'd know exactly how

    by critical bill

  • Apr 18, 2003 7:59:30 PM CDT

    No quicktime, then lick my balls.

    by smeg for brains

    Where the fuck is the Quicktime? Why do some movie companies feel the need to use such inferior media formats as Real and Windows? I mean it's fine to include those for the suckas, but at least give the people who want quality their quicktime.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 8:02:40 PM CDT

    The shoot the floor escape is stolen from...

    by some dude

    ...from a crappy German action movie called "Nemesis."

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  • Apr 18, 2003 8:04:23 PM CDT

    I can't belive he ripped off Albert Pyun!

    by elgordo

    The scene where she shoots through the floor and falls down is taken from the first Nemesis.

    Anyway this film looks pretty bad ass. I just hope it has something more than just looks.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 9:00:11 PM CDT

    I'll wait for Van Helsing..

    by chow yun phat

    I'm experiencing deja-boo!! Where is it written that all vampires are impossibly good looking and always clad in shiny, body-clinging pleather? And I agree with another poster here in regards to the guns. Sure, those bad boys are probably loaded with silver bullets for the wolfies, but Blade would have us believe that Vampires are terribly allergic to silver. I wouldn't want to be in Kate's vampire posse and accidentally catch a stray. Is there a definitive answer on this? I'm rooting for this to be good but that's not the vibe I'm getting. On the other hand, the production art alone from "Van Helsing" has me fired up. Seeing Kate Beckinsale does make my pee-pee flinch though.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 9:16:19 PM CDT

    I can't really comment on this trailer.....

    by jimmy jazz

    since I can't see a damned thing. Could someone please convert this to quicktime? This streaming shit sucks all manner of ass.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 9:16:42 PM CDT

    No QuickTime? Is UGO a third world country, or something?

    by robogeek.com

    Damn, that's just sad. I'd watch this trailer if it were in QuickTime, but not in crappy Real or Windows formats. Get a clue, UGO! You should know better. Go to www.apple.com/trailers to see how it's done.

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  • Come on! The fucking roll-n-roll jerk-to-a-halt close-up on a gloomy pleather-clad figure hunched atop a gothic tower....MUST END NOW! Why are vampires, who have lived for thousands of years, stuck on one neo modern way of dressing? Why always skin-tight black pleather? What if they found some other period of clothing more to their liking for once? And, goddamn it, vamps and wolves do not need guns or kung-fu! They can fucking turn into smoke or bats or exhibit super strength. I'm afraid I'm going to have to be a fanboy about this shit, because the dearth of originality in these movies is really ticking me off. Shit! Even if you had them doing Capoeira it would at least be something ORIGINAL! I hope they shot this whole fucking piece of crapulence in bullet time. Add the whiny neo-alternative soundtrack required by dictated by 40 year old ClearChannel Comm. Executives and you've got THE executive Hollywood formula for the kind of crap that plays right to the groundlings. All I'm asking is for someone to just have a brain about their subject matter. Cool cinematography is wonderful and all, but concept matters. Sheesh, if "Ginger Snaps" can do it, anyone can.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 9:18:58 PM CDT

    This is going to suck. Really, really suck.

    by one9deuce

    To all those that say "You can't judge a movie by it's trailer", I say "You are right". I thought that the Episode 1 teaser trailer was, and is, the best trailer ever made. And of course the movie is very average/mediocre. But I can judge a movie based on who is producing, directing, writing, starring, and most importantly I can judge a movie on the fact that I have seen all of that before. That has got to be the most unoriginal footage ever used in a trailer. This concept is tired. I love The Matrix as much as I have loved any adventure movie in the last 20 years. As I was watching it, I almost felt like I did when I saw Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Almost. But the problem is that it created this ridiculous amount of unoriginality in Hollywood. I mean, even more than usual. Has any movie in the history of motion pictures been ripped off as shamelessly as The Matrix?

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  • Apr 18, 2003 9:36:45 PM CDT

    One9Duece...check yer shit before you wreck your shit

    by vanadium

    Matrix is a total ripoff of several flicks, mostly anime. That story has been told so many times...read Snow Crash...one of the original matrix's. Does that franchise now own the license for women in black leather and dark urban scapes? I look forward to some fresh new worlds to witness. Big hairy wearwolfs.....hoo-aaah!

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  • Apr 18, 2003 9:39:00 PM CDT

    WEREwolves are nice too....

    by vanadium

  • Apr 18, 2003 9:56:00 PM CDT

    UNDERWORLD trailer from APPLE

    by asadaj

    They do have QT versions. Go to http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld

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  • Apr 18, 2003 9:56:38 PM CDT

    what's wrong with you people

    by jetjaguar

    that trailer was so stupid.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 10:11:14 PM CDT

    Exclusive My Ass... QUICKTIME is up.

    by ogieoglethorpe

    not sure what I think of the trailer... Kate sure looks good all "gothed" out like that tho..

    and remember... Predator was written by a couple of rookies as well. Never can tell....

    http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld/

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  • Apr 18, 2003 10:14:56 PM CDT

    The Trailer Looks Good. Have Not Seen The Movie So I will Reserv

    by the outlander

    Could Be Better Than LXG.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 10:43:37 PM CDT

    Kate Beckinsale is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet!

    by moosehead1867

    Kate Beckinsale is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet! It had to be said.

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  • Apr 18, 2003 11:24:33 PM CDT

    Quicktime is availible if you go to the official site

    by critical bill

  • Apr 18, 2003 11:43:03 PM CDT

    Well, it's not pretentious

    by ribbons

    At least it has that...going for it...

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  • Apr 18, 2003 11:46:45 PM CDT

    *Chuckle*

    by ribbons

    Sorry, I almost had myself fooled there.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 12:05:12 AM CDT

    i've officially had it

    by oompacabra

    Somebody e-mail me when people stop saying that god damn not funny after the first 8000 times fucking beanpole joke. For christ's bloody sake. I can't go to a single talkback without 800 of them. It ain't funny anymore. AUUUUGGGHHH! I'm driven to madness! This may seem harsh, but if you frequent this site, you understand.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 12:07:24 AM CDT

    Oompacabra is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet

    by momerath

  • Apr 19, 2003 12:12:09 AM CDT

    Oh, boy.

    by prankster

    I wondered how long it was going to be before someone brought up that tired, "Well, the Matrix just ripped off a lot of other stuff..." No it fucking didn't, not to the extent that other movies ripped IT off. I mean, movies that ripped off "Star Wars" with a cute robot, for example, could have something vaguely resembling a reason for it. But we've had 5000 crappy movies with slo-mo freeze-frame kung fu impossible jumps and lots of black leather, against a detailed gritty background and shot through a green filter, and NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE in the context of those movies. I mean, compare...say..."Batman" to "Dark City". Similarities in visual style, sure--especially the sets--but they're still very much different movies with their own visual quirks and sensibilities. But this piece of crap looks SO much like the Matrix, to the extent that they seem like they were going for a historical reproduction or something. For Christ's sake, they even ripped off the Matrix's signature "flying particles" effect. This trailer screams, "We're second string! We're not good enough to stand on our own! Our only hope is to confuse people into thinking they're watching another, better movie!" It's a shame, too, as the concept actually IS fairly original and the script has apparently been getting good buzz. But I have no patience for that trailer.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 12:17:46 AM CDT

    Oompacabra

    by ribbons

    I understand, but it's probably like trying to hold back the tide. Let people think they're funny for one moment. Isn't that of a piece with why they post in the first place? Although, I do agree that its application would be better suited in articles about actual tomboys or beanpoles. Saying "James Cameron is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet" only because the quote is so pervasive and because James Cameron is NOT a sexy tomboy beanpole doesn't make it any funnier. When used in the right place, a quote can be funny. For example, the major discovery one on the right side of the screen. On the article where that naked Hulk picture debuted, some talkbacker wrote "The Hulk qualifies as a major discovery!" That gave me a chuckle or two. And I know that I'm moving into pedantry hear, but sometimes a little pedantry is a good thing. If it makes any difference, please, just stop with the tomboy beanpole jokes. Nobody's gonna think it's funny unless it's appropriate for the situation.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 12:27:33 AM CDT

    CAN YOU SAY SCI-FI CHANNEL ORIGINAL MOVIE?

    by maxcalifornia.

    How generic. Looks like another typical post-Matrix product. I don't mind if these movies rip off special effects from other films, as long as they establish their own tone and identity, but this looks like it's revelling in it's complete lack of inspiration. Pass....

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  • Apr 19, 2003 12:56:18 AM CDT

    THIS TRAILER ROCKS

    by avidking

    SHE'S HOT. HOT. HOT.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 1:10:06 AM CDT

    Newsflash: Goth is Over

    by son of batboy

    Maybe they think the British accents will stop the audience from laughing hysterically. With lines like "I am a death dealer" how could you not? Trying to disguise a ridiculous movie by using words like Lycans instead of werevolves is pathetically lame. This ain't rocket science or high art so stop trying to dress it up as anything other than some crappy Anne Rice/Matrix knockoff. Can the people making these movies wake up and at least try to create costumes that aren't made out of leather? How bout a film where the charatcers aren't ultra-hip martial arts practicing posers who look like they spend every waking minute attending fashion shows? Hey look, old buildings and martial arts leather-fu in a thunderstorm! Bet they spent more time on putting together there hip alternative soundtrack than writing the script.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 2:41:32 AM CDT

    I wonder why they are dumping this movie in September, which alo

    by monkeybrains

    And if they say its because the summer movie season is booked solid, don't buy it: Thats a studio PR move. MOVIES THE STUDIOS TRY TO HIDE ARE RELEASED IN JANUARY & SEPTEMBER!!!. Been that way for years.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 3:14:36 AM CDT

    "Blade" Revisited, or A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the F

    by shub-wankalot

    ...yep, Blade has pretty much cornered the market on the bad-ass vampire hunter, with techno-gothpunk ratcheted to the next level, guns ablazin' and martial arts explodin'. This movie, from the trailer, makes no apology for loosely chasing after that nouveau interpretation of vampire lore, with a twist or two of its own. Is this movie a rental, a direct-to-video prospect, or a bonafide box office contender? Personally, the trailer doesn't stir any strong interest...merely curiosity.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 6:52:54 AM CDT

    Decent but very derivative........

    by rogue_leader

    Sheeesh! They really need to try and get creative with these deals. It seems like as if every new films in this genre rips off the ones that came before it. OH well at least this one has a sort of new concept. Vampires vs. Werevoles.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 9:54:08 AM CDT

    The only Vampire/Underworld movies I want to see made next are S

    by amadeus zero

    ...anyone 'member those? By Judy and Gar Reeves-Stevens? It's been awhile, but I remember those books making these uber-types seem like what they truly should be: too badass to even _try_ to fuck with.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 10:27:50 AM CDT

    Well yeeeeesss it does look derivative....

    by trench404

    .... but it also looks fun. Wasn't the 'shooting through the floor' thing ripped off from Nemesis in Judge Dredd as well? I dont recall folks having a wobbly over that one. Well at least the goths get something new to watch, saves endless viewings of The Crow and Interview with the Vampire.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 12:18:34 PM CDT

    Modern Vampire stories suck...put them back where they belong in

    by sith witch

  • Apr 19, 2003 12:30:04 PM CDT

    One little note about "Nemesis"

    by vanadium

    It actually isn't that bad of a movie....sure it's a B-movie terminator spinoff....but it has some funny lines, a buffed out Oliver Grunier (sp?) whupping ass, and more firepower and rounds shot off than any other movie I could think of..... Best Line: "State-of-the-fucking-art, Alex!!" by that big scary blonde guy that died last year......damn, what was his name?

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  • Apr 19, 2003 12:34:32 PM CDT

    Originality with vampires

    by sick_boy

    To the poster above who mentioned Capoeira being an original way to tackle vampires, that would STILL be a rip-off of Blade. Honestly, go back & watch it again.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 1:35:52 PM CDT

    Vanadium

    by one9deuce

    Name ONE movie that looks like The Matrix before March of 1999. The Matrix borrowed liberaly from many different sources, and that is hardly in dispute. But the Wachowski's took inspiration from LOTS of sources, and turned them into their own movie. Underworld looks just like The Matrix. Star Wars borrowed from Joseph Campbell, Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, Akira Kurosawa and so on. But George Lucas created his own thing that was ripped off directly ad nauseum for years, and still is. Raiders of the Lost Ark borrowed from Gunga Din, King Solomon's Mines, The Secret of the Incas with Charlton Heston, From Who The Bell Tolls with Gary Cooper, all of the old adventure serials, and so on. But George Lucas and Steven Speilberg created their own film. Raiders might even have been more ripped off than The Matrix, except with a ton of low budget rip-offs, so it wasn't as glaringly obvious because no one saw them. Treasure of the Four Crowns, Jungle Raiders, you get the idea. Hopefully you are a little more educated on the subject, and won't ignorantly tell me I don't know what I am talking about. Oh, and I will expect an apology in September (DUMP MONTH) when this movie SUCKS.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 2:35:46 PM CDT

    Vampire Hunter D anyone?

    by killa

    this is just like a live action version of Vampire Hunter D which is one of the best Anime movies I have ever seen.

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  • As long as the special effects are good, I don't have a problem with any movie like this. If they ever make "Necroscope" from the books by Brian Lumley. This is the way it should look like... very dark.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 4:37:33 PM CDT

    "I am a death dealer"? "I AM A DEATH DEALER"???

    by robogeek.com

    Holy mother of crap, that has to be one of the all-time worst trailer voice-overs I've ever heard. Wow. They might as well just intercut title cards that read "This movie is lame." From the looks of it (now that I've seen the QuickTime version on the film's official site), this might have been a really cool movie... in 1993. But the goth leather edgy dark look with quick jump cuts and loud metal music comes across as so ridiculous now (and the bad CG werewolves don't help). Kate sure is gorgeous, though.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 4:54:11 PM CDT

    regarding originality in ANY movie...

    by vanadium

    One9Duece,....originality in any movie/screenplay is obviously influenced by the director/writer's prior viewings/readings. I wholeheartedly agree about your point on the Lucas/Spielberg movies, especially Lucas and his interpretation of Kurosawa. What truly is original these days? I found Mullholland Drive to be original/brilliant and it gets panned by most of the fanboys here....damn tiny-brained folk. People want Matrix rehash... I like the look of the Matrix and I consider Underworld indirectly paying homage to it by copying it. One more thing.....define "when this movie sucks"....by whose standards? Harry, who I love, made me ill with his review of "Armeggedon". Harry, myself, and Ebert, all loved Femme Fatale, but most people hated it.....I can find people on this site that think Kubrick was a hack.....so if that douche Bruce Handy from Esquire pans it, or that fat sow Leah Rozen from People rips it....you're not getting an apology from me.

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  • Apr 19, 2003 5:38:44 PM CDT

    yep, a rip off of...

    by finn fionn

    ...old Warner toons. Yosemite Sam would shoot the floor and fall thru the hole. Daffy did it. And now, some vampire killer? Oooohhh, real original....

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  • Apr 19, 2003 6:26:06 PM CDT

    Hi HO HI HI HO

    by the tao of joe

    that music was kinda lame. Looks like all the kids who think the crow in an unparallelled acheivement in film making will be greatly pleased.
    toj out

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  • Apr 19, 2003 9:55:32 PM CDT

    contrived??? WELL OF COURSE! BRILLIANT!

    by fromhell

    cant wait, looks good, fuck anyone who doesnt like it, BLAH!

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  • Apr 19, 2003 10:01:39 PM CDT

    Vanadium

    by one9deuce

    Very true about most everything having been used before in some movie somewhere. Hard to impossible to have something be totally original here in the 21st century. As far as the criteria for Underworld sucking, I am confident that you yourself will think it sucks. Then again, some people really like some movies even if they suck. I love Bloodsport. Hardly Best Picture material.

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  • Apr 20, 2003 2:24:47 AM CDT

    Shade rhymes with Blade

    by mr funktastic

    Shade: Blade one sucked. And the Matrix ripped off Buffalo 66? - Riiiiight -. Plus, the Matrix totally ripped off the Wizard of Oz for the Wachowski's use of filming in color. Plus using actors and a set and shit.

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  • Apr 20, 2003 3:01:39 AM CDT

    UNDERWORLD!!!

    by joel007

    Enough with the 'this is just a rip-off of some obscure '90's vampire comic nobody ever heard of' talk. I've known the director Wiseman since birth and I'm telling you, he hasn't read those comics. He hasn't ripped anything off. He had this idea germinating for years-- Vampires VS. Werewolves plus some big ass action. This guy's one of us. He was weaned on Raiders of the Lost Ark and Star Wars. Doing videos Len got the rep of a guy who could make a hundred grand budget look like ten million. And that's what the movie's gonna look like. Believe it. This guy is the second coming of James Cameron.

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  • Yummy. Werewolves, vamps and Kates ass in tight leather...what are you dorks bitching about?

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  • Apr 20, 2003 6:07:20 AM CDT

    Most of You Are Morons

    by silvermane

    The whole Vampires vs. Werewolves thing IS pretty unique as far as I know in film. But it is not if you look at popular (or unpopular) culture. Have any of you geeks ever heard of the Role Playing Game by White Wolf called Vampire The Masquerade or Werewolf, or Mage or any number of other things by them? The whole pretense is this "World Of Darkness" where all these different subcultures of monsters fight (and or) work together using FUCKING GUNS, SWORDS, MAGIC, and whatever else they can get their hands on. Oh boo-hoo, why does a Vampire have to use a gun...because he fucking WANTS to, morons. First you say that they have lived all these years and they are stuck with PLEATHER and now you are telling me they shouldn't evolve over time to want to use guns? Should they run around in corsets and old European garb? Then you idiots would say "buh-buh-buht, they're ripping off th-th-the Vampire Lestat. Give it a rest. Dummies.

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  • Apr 20, 2003 10:32:09 AM CDT

    Keira Knightly has a bomb in her tire iron...

    by vanadium

    Goin' old school on that one...

    Enough with this over-analysis of a trailer....which is so common on this site. Everyone has been burned or pleasantly surprised by movies after seeing a trailer. As far as this movie...bring it on....I don't give 2 shits if it's borrowing some Matrix sets and costumes. It's got a war of undead vs lycanthropes....how is that bad? Personally, I'm getting sick of machines as villians...just drop an EMP bomb on them and it's over. Off topic...I just saw Mothman Prophecies last night..cool flick...more importantly, incredible camera work....the director, Mark Pellington, is definitely one to watch. Has he done anything else?

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  • Apr 20, 2003 12:26:04 PM CDT

    Kudos to Silvermane

    by mreeez

    When I heard of thie flick I thought "Cool, a Worlds of Darkness flick. Hope they get it right". Glad so see someone else made the connection. As for Matrix, the idea was a rip off of another RPG, Shadowrun, where people would plug into their computers to enter a virtual world called, you guessed it, the Matrix. And that's from a game thats been around since '89.

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  • Apr 20, 2003 12:59:31 PM CDT

    I am NOT downloading that lossy, overbloated shite

    by jopapa

    Windows Media sucks cock. Realmedia sucks ass so hard it chokes on intestines.
    I'll wait for Quicktime.

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  • Apr 20, 2003 2:10:43 PM CDT

    Am I missing something??

    by joel007

    Did I miss something in regards to the Matrix? Was it not basically action at the beginning, action at the end and an hour and a half of people standing around spouting ridiculous 'this is the most important thing that ever happened' style platitudes in monotone in the middle? How in the hell did this thing become the rozetta stone of modern film making? Those obsessed with the Matrix are the ones who were obsessed with the original star Wars trilogy as kids, and have this unconscious need to latch onto something that will, as adults, give them what they felt as a child. Do not forget, the Wachowskis are the same people that wrote the Stallone debacle Assasins - and that flick was a steaming pile.

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  • Apr 20, 2003 2:21:33 PM CDT

    Song in the trailer

    by heretic9

    I know i've heard that song some other movie before. Anyone know what the name of the song is?

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  • Apr 20, 2003 4:16:27 PM CDT

    joel007

    by drago2002

    they also did bound which was an undeniably trashy good time. the wachowski's have built a career on ripping things off (bound = blood simple, matrix = 1984 and woo's early hong kong flicks) but they do it so well that you can't complain. and how can you rip on people for getting into a franchise when your user ID is a reference to the james bond films?

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  • Apr 20, 2003 7:50:05 PM CDT

    i thought that looked pretty damn cool

    by exador

    doesn't anyone get excited anymore?.....im always up for something that looks kinda cool....and am always impressed when someone can take a small budget and make it look huge...to me, that's an art...hell, look at all the big budget movies that looked like crap....so when i see something like this, i kinda root for the guy...y'know?......what is sad, is that folks here would rather shit all over it....without even having seen it first....c'mon..so the voiceover was a bit lame...that aside, it looked freaking awesome...and how is it, that 'i'm a death dealer' is lame..but the voice over in Bladerunner where he says some of the lamest things is somehow cool...give it a rest folks.....show some support for the guy....everyone always complains when there's no genre movies...but always bitches when someone comes out with one..it's not like this has freddy prinz junior in it....so for chrissakes, show a bit of support....anyhow..i'll go see it....and i'll be most of you will too....

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  • Heh, more people should steal shots from anime - nobody (including talkbackers who pretend to be culture conscious - but really only repeat what they have heard is "elite" elsewhere) would know that they stole it, and everyone would be talking about how "cool and original" it is. It worked with the Matrix and HK flicks - no reason it can't work with anime as well. :)

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  • Apr 20, 2003 9:49:51 PM CDT

    its fun!

    by commy

    everything is based on something else all that varies is how many sources and how mush has been taken directly or has it been twisted a bit. either way this looks fun not serious, the visuals look great nice and dark and gothicy love the train shot and the costumes look good too even the ones that arent leads! it aint gonna win anything but who cares!

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  • Apr 20, 2003 11:42:37 PM CDT

    drago2002

    by joel007

    I rip no man for buddying up to a franchise. I myself am a Star Wars freak and likely a bigger bond freak. I've just felt the slavering over the Matrix was completely undue. It was a poster, not a movie. It was people in black leather and sunglasses posing with guns. It has bred an unfortunate batch of action flicks ever since. Pre Matrix it was Die Hard, post Matrix it's all gravity defying DMX-Jet Li garbage.

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  • Apr 21, 2003 12:10:28 PM CDT

    Doesn't look bad!

    by nice marmot

    I didn't expect this to look good at all. I feel like the guns & leather coats are all that make it Matrix-like; I can overlook that. I especially like how dark it looks. It looks like the only actual color used is blue (and I'm assuming there will be plenty of blood red). Other than that it might as well be black and white. I will definitely go see this.

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  • Apr 21, 2003 8:14:35 PM CDT

    Men in Coats

    by jbreen

    This looks like a tick the boxes film to me. Ah, long coats - tick! Jumping on the roof of a moving car and punching holes in the top - tick! Slow mo shots of characters jumping from tall buildings and landing gracefully at the bottom - tick! Shoot the floor shot - tick! Guns in two hands in a corridor with lots of plater and stuff flying about in the air - tick! Slo-mo bullets - tick! Kung fu and wire-fu - tick! Oh, and crap techno-metal music in the background - tick! I am sure there will be a dimly lit nightclub scene in here as well, some yucky insertions into the body and various sticky fluids and really, the whole thing will look like a crap Matrix or a crap nu-metal/Tool/Manson etc clip. Time for a new look I think.

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  • Apr 21, 2003 9:34:35 PM CDT

    Theorize this

    by dr.zinjhou

    Let us look at this trailer as another product of overlapping genres. I read pretty much every comment dealing with this trailer; it was a no brainer depicting the "borrowed" shots from all of the movies mentioned by all. That said, look at it in a more theoretical way, think of genres and the formulas they exploit. Most films overlap genres to draw different audiences. A great example of this is Fukasakas Battle Royal, it acts as an adventure, action, horror, survival, love, teenager film, all of the old characteristics of genres manipulated into a new film. That is exactly what Hollywood is doing, whatever films were successful are recycled into sequels, blatantly ripped off, copied, whatever. If you want to criticize these films, take what RICK ALTMAN (film theorist) calls the RITUAL approach, whereby you have expectations of what you are about to see, you are the maker of meaning, and understand that you are watching a film that pays attention to the spectator, rather than the film paying attention to rhetorical & discursive strategies. Look at it this way, everything you see on the screen, from the wardrobe to the weapons, sets, special effects, everything plot (all called semantic elements). What is key is to look how they are all put together in the end (called syntactic elements), kind of like building blocks. After seeing the film, judge whether the blocks (semantic elements) form a solid structure (syntactic elements) If so, then you know you have a good solid film, if not, well, you wont be seeing other films following in Underworlds footsteps, nor will it be referred to, as was the case for Matrix, Blade, Crow etc... Whatever.

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  • Apr 22, 2003 8:12:38 AM CDT

    Somehow I'd pictured something cooler

    by drath

    I can't hold them at fault for this, but when I heard there'd be werewolves crawling on the walls of corridors, I pictured something more atmospheric and Alien-like than what was in the trailer, which was brightly lit and made me think of Blacula for some reason. I'm not one of those "hey, that's derivative," kind of people, I'm just not really drawn to these images. They do feel cut and pasted, but unlike Matrix(which was also cut and pasted) they don't quite have a life of their own, at least in the trailer. Nice concept with the vampire/werewolf war. I thought of that once, but I saw Werewolves as relative "good guys" and vampires as villains(hey, they suck your blood). I also couldn't think of a story to make it worth the trouble, but they've come up with a nice solution with the Romeo and Juliet approach. That whole angle is probably what will make this into a sleeper/cult hit, so long it's not as mediocre as the trailer here feels. Of course I thought that about Equilibrium and that's already been written off as a Matrix wannabee.

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  • Apr 22, 2003 5:53:55 PM CDT

    speaking of ripping off shots from anime...

    by jacklint

    In Requem For a Dream, the scene where Jennifer Connely is in the bathtub with her face underwater and screams after a dramatic pause....copied shot for shot from an anime called Perfect Blue!

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  • Apr 30, 2003 8:05:15 PM CDT

    Name the song in the trailer please!

    by plutonick

    People have asked it before, but nobody replied and I need to know. I really do.

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  • May 02, 2003 12:50:24 AM CDT

    name of song is....

    by reiryoku

    "Red Tape" by Agent Provocateur. You can find the song on
    "The Jackal" soundtrack.

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