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Hey folks, Harry here.... sounds like TRON 2.0 is going to end up being in the hands of consumers... specifically the consumers of the upcoming video game. So buy one for each platform and then buy them as gifts for friends or people you admire. Yup, it seems that's the only way the film will get made. Apparently they have a script they like, but Disney doesn't yet have the nerve. Sigh... I really want to see a second TRON movie. I really do. I love the original and believe with the innovation and advancement of the computer world, some of the theories in the first film can be greatly expanded upon.
Hey, Harry. It was an honor tonight for me to meet Richard Taylor, one of the visual effects supervisors/art directors behind a little movie called Tron. He was visiting the University of Utah, whom he is an alumni of, and spoke to my Animation Survey class for a few hours.
Besides his involvement in the film, he is also assisting Monolith with the Tron 2.0 video game (to be released on multiple platforms). What will really excite all the Tronnies out there, however, was his confirmation that a script has been approved for a Tron 2.0 movie (maybe this is old news, I don't know). Whether or not it is greenlit depends heavily on the success of the video game, he says, which will be released this August. Syd Mead is working on the designs for the video game, so maybe he'll be actively involved in the movie, too? Makes sense.
Of course, I asked for any plot details on the possible sequel, but Richard could not divulge any information (to much groaning and hissing from my class).
Aside from that announcement, Richard also talked about how horribly Disney marketed the film, moving it up from Christmas to the Summer of '82, forcing it to compete with such art-house films as E.T. and Poltergeist... perhaps you've heard of them? Richard groaned that Disney moved the release date to Summer to coincide with the release of Don Bluth's The Secret of NIMH, hoping to steal some of its box-office (yeah, I guess they were still a bit sore at that guy).
Richard also commented that Steve Lisberger's original idea was to have the scenes in the computer world completely animated, including the human actors (he didn't specify, but I'm thinking hand-drawn animation). It was only after Richard lobbied for processing live-action photography and showed Steve some examples that they decided to go with that idea. Smart move, guys.
I wish I could tell you more, but a lot of what he had to say had to do with the incredibly complex, expensive, and time-consuming photography. It was more techie-talk than I could handle, so I apologize if you were interested in hearing more about that part of his discussion (Richard says to check out the 2nd disc of the 20th Anniversary Edition of Tron if you want to know more).
But anywho, everyone go out and buy the Tron 2.0 video game this August so we can get a new Tron movie (spoken like a true Monolith plant... JK)!
- Wilco
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I remember seeing tron in the theater in '82. It was like the second weekend and I was one of like 6 kids.
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However, I'm much to poor to go around buying videogames in order to convince Disney I'd like to see the sequal made. Don't they have a survey or something?
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Apr 15, 2003 11:03:59 AM CDT
disney - if the script is good and the effects are good then tro
by mansep
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Apr 15, 2003 11:30:29 AM CDT
1982 films: Tron DVD special edition, E.T. dvd special edition..
by elmstreetkid
but where oh WHERE is my POLTERGEIST SPECIAL EDITION DVD!!
even Blade Runner is getting the deluxe treatment! Poltergeist made money, snagged 3 oscar noms, and cemented a place in horror history, time for a special edition!!
p.s. Tron is a blast, bring it on -
I'm in the Film program at the U of U also. I took Brian's animation class a couple years ago. Who are you? I didn't know that guy was coming or I would have sat in on the class.
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I really wish the make another DuckTales movie, and give Winnie The Pooh A rest. He's way to overrated as far as I'm concerned!. Scrooge McDuck deserves A really good movie this time, and Disney needs to make one! Breakdance with Alan Young, today!
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Hey there! It's AICN's version of Sark, the bad motherfucker known as the Man From U.N.C.L.E.F.U.C.K.A. I got word from the MCP that some asswipe geek program was posting in ones instead of binary, and now I have to smack his ass around. Solartaco, you ignorant digital slut, I'm not just gonna send you to the Game Grid, I'm sending you to a Leisure Suit Larry game as a bikini bunny. There, you should receive the schtupping you deserve. After that, if you're good, I might just let you into a Barbie game. Fuck first posters. Fuck them up their stupid asses.
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While Flynn's "inside" again, someone accidentally spills champagne on the keyboard, turning the new, "female" CPU into a lovesick artificial intelligence... box office GOLD.
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I have yet to see the fouth season/movies that were done a while back and those bitches at Cartoon Network aren't reairing it, so get THAT out and enough with this sequel that Disney will make right after they finish animating Alexander Lloyd's Prydaine series(eg, never).
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Apr 15, 2003 3:05:54 PM CDT
Maybe they should make "Tron 2.0: Electric Boogaloo", with Hulk
by mbaker
The Master Control Program has chosen you to serve your system on the game grid, brother!
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How dare you? Everyone knows the personal computer from Electric Dreams has been in a long homosexual relationship with HAL. Sure they had that one spat when HAL was caught interfacing with the "Ultimate" computer from Superman 3... but that was a long time ago.
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Apparently they broke down the two post-TV movies into episodes of four. You can download them off Kazaa if you search for "Reboot - 4x01" or "4x02" and so on. AndrAIa is the sexiest tom boy beanpole in Mainframe.
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Let me relate this: so did Blade Runner.
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Tron is a fine flick. Naysayers need to realize that it doesn't compete in the same arena as a typical movie. Yes: By the standards of traditional cinema it is flat as a pancake. But it's a tasty and nutritious pancake; that's what must be understood.
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It is more like a visualized Infocom game. The images, and the storytelling, are merely spurs for the watcher's imagination. The mere fact that so many people care about this not-so-hot movie so many years later, is proof that there is more here than meets the eye and the ear of the passive audience member.
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What we need in a new film is a respect for the first. But not a straight sequel in the same mold: This time around it should entertain and intellectually stimulate much more broadly and deeply. It needs to leapfrog all the so-so treatments of cyberspace by Hollywood since. Yes, that includes the Matrix. The Matrix is based somewhat on cyberpunk literature that has been getting stale for years now, and sold out that aesthetic with its out-there far-future bedrock. A new Tron needs to be smarter and savvier, not merely throwing the IT-and-game-nerds (many in the PG crowd) a bone, but telling them some real brainfood they didn't yet know. That's the kind of stimulation that provides the lifelong entertainment those fortunate enough to have seen Tron as children, are still enjoying.
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A new Tron movie should look and feel like Fight Club on the outside, and like a more streetwise Star Wars on the inside. That's right, streetwise. Because Tron is about games not some slick clean IT-style cyberspace... and games have evolved. Yeah the old Tron look can basically stay but we should see guerilla/gangster type dudes running around inside that and making the place look Baghdad. Hmm... Sounds rather Matrixy, but with a fresh, less photorealistic take on it, that could be a great thing. -
Now, think about this.
You have a movie, which is about a game. Big huge geek ass movie popular umong the computer-buffs.
Now, instead of making the sequel an actual movie, making it a GAME ONLY thing.
It's original, it's 'cool' (in a way). Your playing the computer game of a movie which is a sequel to the movie about a computer game.
I mean, there's some sort of fantasy/reality merging thing happening with this type of move.
I mean, it's sorta like watching the Matix, then finding out the sequel is actually you IN the Matrix! Or something.
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Release a movie based on the sales of a video game.... Fuck you, you money grubbing Disney bastards. How many goddamn games do you want to sell? There is already about 7,000 blockbuster and 3,500 Hollywood video stores and who the hell knows many other chains, who will buy 1-3 copies of the game sight unseen. So there's over half a million dollars right there. It takes over 60 million to make a decent movie these days. Not only that but how often do Video games make good movies? HELLO, MCFLY HELLO, does anyone remember Tomb Raider, Street Fighter or Mario Brothers? Those were GREAT movies weren't they? Dumbasses.
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I remember my uncle Tim taking me to see Tron. I even remember the little bit of dialouge (sp) that the European release had at the beginning. Bare in mind that this was back in the days when a new release in Blighty meant that it had been out in America for over a year!! I remember reading that Tron had bombed in America and asked my uncle why he had thought it done so when we both loved it. His answer is burned on my memory not because it is slighty anti-american but because over the years I've the evidence to back him up has on more than one occasion born fruit and it works for a lot of Brits too in fact. his reply was 'Because unless they are told it is one, your average American wouldn't know a good idea if it bit them on their arse.' Maybe this only applies to Disney Exec's nowadays!
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One less remake/sequel/prequel. Next?
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Harry didn't do it. Thats cool. and that animation is an abomination.
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Hey, I can't wait for Tron 2! But come on....what about CONDORMAN!!!!!
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It's a good way to get the sequel off the ground. I don't think a sequel to a twenty year old film that wasn't a success to begin with is a very smart move either. Tron 2.0 should be pitched as a "re-imagining" of the original and make a sequel to it anyway. The major problem is the ultimate "people in computer" movie has been made and that films two follow-ups are hitting theaters this year. Tron hasn't got a shot.
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Apr 16, 2003 5:18:54 AM CDT
Just a quick word regarding Mead's involvement with the game
by dan_average
Mead's design work for the Tron 2.0 game extends to the new lightcycle design (which looks more like a traditional open-air motorcycle -- don't worry, the original's in there too) and nothing more. In other words he's doing one thing and that's it. In light of that it's probably a bit of a leap to extrapolate anything about his work on the (potential) movie.
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I don't remember the rest of the soundtrack, but the title song "Together in Electric Dreams" was by the Human League, I believe...
Actually, I remembered loving Tron when I was 12, I even owned the soundtrack on vinyl. Then I happened to catch it on Starz this weekend... Cindy Morgan was hot! I wonder if Lacey Underall is in my computer right now? -
Journey sang the theme song Only Solutions for Tron.
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Then Disney might hit the skids altogether - they'd be almost there were it not for the Miyazaki and Pixar licensing agreements. Ol' Walt must be turning in his liquid nitrogen-filled grave.
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Or he was, before he got old and shunted out of the villain roles. Even Avon from Blake's 7 couldn't hold a candle to that sneer. "43 species of parrots. Nipples, for men!!"
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Posting under multiple user ids???
That's horrible!!! :)
They do talk about some frightening things... that's for sure.
But mostly they are just inane, rambling, self-absorbed numbskulls with no lives and less wit.
At least they aren't out in the real world bothering people...
Maybe they will wake up one day soon and realize how pathetic and empty their lives are, then take the appropriate action.
Anybody got a birthday cake handy? -
With Tron being made by Monolith it probably won't be a great success however, not that I particularly got anything out of the original film anyway (Particular with how badly its dated).
As for the Blade Runner comparision, well thats a good film. At that rate you might as well ask for a new "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" film, after all that didn't do well either, therefore it must be a classic like Blade Runner. -
At least that's what they cost here in canada: an arm, a leg and the head of your dick.
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Apr 18, 2003 12:02:01 AM CDT
I'm glad I'm not the only one here who realizes that TRON is abo
by ronnie_dobbs
This movie put me to sleep so many times that the only good parts of the movie I can remember were actually just parts of the far more entertaining dream I was having at the time. Funny thing is, I wasn't at all tired going into the theatre. And, BTW, Lobhanaki, BLADE RUNNER is one of the greatest films ever made; the only reason it initially failed at the box office is that the studio wouldn't release the brilliant director's cut. TRON, on the other hand, is donkey shit.
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