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New MATRIX RELOADED Trailer Everywhere!! Now!!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Seriously. May is going to be one of those months that is so fucking good we’re going to need collective plastic surgery to get the geekgrins off our faces.
Need proof? Well, the final trailer for MATRIX RELOADED is showing tonight on ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT and ACCESS HOLLYWOOD and during Arena Football over the weekend, or you can just go ahead and download the bloody thing right now:
http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer_final_downloads.html>THE WACHOWSKIS BEEN BERRY, BERRY GOOD TO ME!!
Maybe that snow in New York this week was just to let us know that Christmas is early this year. Whattaya think?
"Moriarty" out.
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bad eggs they are. Knew it when I saw 'em.
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those albino twins....I think they could give Samara from the Ring a run for her money in overall f/x creepiness. It's basically more bullet time stuff as far as the action scenes, but they're expanding on what they can do with them...very nice.
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but I'm just not excited about this flick. I liked the first one, didn't think it was the greatest flick ever, but it was good. But I just can't get worked up over this. I'm much more excited about the Hulk.
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Well it's better than Lord of the Rings anyway.
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Apr 10, 2003 7:48:57 PM CDT
i have a new friend in my pants, and i call him Erection Mcrecti
by microwavable?
holy crap!! this movie looks fun as hell! i can't wait! in the words of Ted Theodore Logan, "I have a full-on robot chubby!"
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This movie looks terrible.
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Oh My GOD!!!! THE MATRIX RELOADED is gonna KICK FUCKING ASS, KICK FUCKING ASS, KICK FUCKING ASS, KICK FUCKING ASS, KICK FUCKING A$$!!! Sorry, I got carried away! Between this X2 and T3, Summer 2003 is gonna be the best GEEK fest in HISTORY...until summer 2005 when we have EpIII, Indiana Jones and "A James Cameron Film"!!!
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Yeah, it looks horrendous, and the Hulk's tits look fat.
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but that's beside the point because RELOADED should be great, but not as great as KILL BILL. You all are not ready for that upcoming cinematic masterpiece!
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so, what i want to know is, when neo blows his load on trinity's chest, will it be in bullet-time?
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That trailer was sick. Just downright sick. The bloody Trinity tells me that they might play off the first Matrix and have her "Beat Up Cops / Run From Agents" scene at the start of the film, but then again it could be a mission to rescue Neo at the end. The new agents look to be more buff, an "enforcer" version of the orginals, but less complex. Enter Agent Smith, who at first I thought might be working as a rogue agent, on a mission to kill Neo and nothing else, but he could just be an upgrade. The Ghost Twins look downright evil when they transport. The one that went through the windsheild nearly bit morpheus in the neck! The scenes of the squiddies digging to Zion looks like it was derived directly out of the work WETA Digital did for Lord of the Rings. A friggin Nuclear Plant EXPLODES in one frame. If you stop the frame in the cheateau scene where all the Euro Trash guys are firing on Neo, you can see they each have a very different and specific machine gun or assualt rifle. Add that one up to the Wachowski Brothers "throwing everything and five kitchen sinks" into the film. The overhead shot of Zion really made me understand how a city, with every culture and race, slammed into one area can look. The shot of the Agent landing and crushing a moving car, which was discussed and discussed as "lame" when it was shown on the Superbowl Ad, has been improved through the use of shutter speed, now allowing us to watch the thousands and thousands particles of glass exploding while the Agent takes off. Just a side note, General Motors donated over 300 cadillacs to the film, and every last damn one was wrecked, crushed and destroyed. Holy. Monkey. May 15th is going to be one fine day.
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I'm not trying to be pretentious, but even on a basic level of interest, I'd have figured that people would be attracted to the Hulk movie more than X2. Whatever. I'm going to see the Matrix Reloaded, but I'm kinda suprised at how little I'm anticipating it. Maybe I've finally learned to be a bit more realistic about my expectations of certain movies. I know escapism is a great thing, but anticipation is always greater than the realization, or so they say. Again, I liked the Matrix, so I'm definitely interested to see where these go, but I dunno. If nothing else I'll be stunned by all the hard work that went into making it look cool. They wrecked like 11 Cadillacs and painted trees purple, so...
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In the shot where she's falling out the window while shooting, it looks like she's got a bloody face. Unless Neo is a quick flyer, Trinity might not survive this film.
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Hot like fire!
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the movie will still kick unholy ass! I thought the music at the beginning was a bit on the cheezy side, but as I said, the film will no doubt be great.
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I'm sorry, I watched the Kill Bill trailer and it did absolutely nothing for me. I watch this trailer, goose bumps. We truly live in exciting times for movies.
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At first, I thought this movie was going to be a bad sequel. Now, after seeing all the trailers, I know that the action scenes are going to be so fucking awesome that I will have multiple orgasms while watching it. But I still think the storyline will be lame.
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Amazing stuff.
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Isn't this the same movie I saw in 99? I love the trick that pasty-braided dude pulls in the car. Just like "Ghost Dad" or Casper the Friendly Ghost. Only lamer.
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This has to be one of the greatest trailers for anything ever!! And for those who don't think much of The Matrix, well that just sucks for you because you can't enjoy one of the greatest and most technologically groundgreaking movie series of all time. Just leave us alone to bask in the nice, comforting, warm glow that is our Matrix. I would feel sorry for those who cannot appreciate The Matrix, but that would take too much energy away from taking in all that is the glorious Matrix. Can't wait for the midnight showing.
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Apr 10, 2003 9:11:00 PM CDT
The release date of Reloaded will be pushed back because sentian
by uncle sam
And the release date of X2 will also be pushed back, because a real-life mutant will try to assassinate President Bush! But seriously... God, if you're listening, if it truly is your will that World War III begins soon due to increasing tensions in the Middle-East, PLEASE, I'm begging you, make it happen AFTER the month of May. I WANNA SEE THOSE MOVIES! On second thought, make it happen earliest January 2004. I also wanna see Revolutions and Return of the King. Amean. - I WANT YOU, but not in that way.
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http://www.asbrand.com/files/cat_fan.wmv
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That was quite honestly the best fuckin trailer ever. People who say this movie is going to suck do not know their asses from a hole in the ground. Please! If you've ever seen a better trailer, please tell me.
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I just ejaculated.
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Apr 10, 2003 9:28:26 PM CDT
If I hadn't popped my ivory cork earlier today, I surely would h
by iamjacksuserid
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Revolutions better have some amazing battle scenes... like men aginst machine? because i don't think they can win the war buy just destroying the matrix, they'll have to destroy the machines as well. Or at least their AI central.
Oh, and the trailer looks amazing. Anyone who says that it looks bad it's just being sarcastic or in denial. Can't wait until May!!! Great year for all of us!!! -
...could have used a vampire. LOL.
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OMG, wait, so the Matrix doesn't have the best script ever written? It's not going to be up for best picture? NO FUCKING SHIT. Who was comparing the Matrix to "better" scripts? The Matrix isn't about being deep but you'd be greatly mistaken to think that the depth isn't there. But again, the Matrix is not about being deep as much as it's about kicking ass all over the fucking place. THIS IS A SUPERHERO MOVIE ASSHOLES, TREAT IT AS SUCH.
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I think the reason it appears (although the reality may not be the case) that more people are attracted to X-Men 2, as opposed to Hulk, is that, frankly, the trailers for the Hulk make the movie look horrendous. It almost definitely, in the end, won't be too bad a movie, but as of this instant, all of the trailers that I've seen for the Hulk have done nothing for me. It's kind of strange, really; I was strongly looking forward to the new Hulk movie, but when I saw those trailers...Well...On a similar note, Terminator 3 is having the exact same problem. Now, in regards X-Men...Its trailers might not be that hot either, but, they do look a little better, at least, and, this is a sequel. Most people will have seen the original X-Men by now, and since the general consensus was that that movie was pretty strong, the logical assumption would be that the sequel would be strong as well. The Hulk is an original, and has no foundation off of which to work. Of course, on the other hand, it could just be that X-Men 2 is coming out a month and a half before Hulk, and some people can't think that far ahead!
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This movie certainly has the potential to rock, and rock hard, but we will see. The "war" that Morpheus is talking about is metaphorically related to the ancient struggle in human societies between liberty and authority. If they have any ideas about how this could be ended once and for all, (on the side of liberty of course!) a problem which has eluded humanity for millenia, I would love to see it. Let's hope they have some smokin' new ideas in Revolutions!
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Apr 10, 2003 10:40:53 PM CDT
Ironic that the one named 'lunacy' provides an arguement that is
by iamjacksuserid
I agree and have been saying that for years. It is an action movie, no more no less. The mythology and metaphors are just bonuses to that fact.
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No Way! The part of the story dealing with mythology and its impact on social hierarchy are the central themes of the first Matrix. The action sequences were there so that Joe Six-pack could focus his limited attention span long enough to absorb all the subversive memes.
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This is a superhero movie and its going to rule
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Apr 10, 2003 10:58:01 PM CDT
MATRIX RELOADED: MORE LIKE MATRIX HOMOEROTIC, AM I RITE?
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hay guys, what's going on in this talkback?
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Apr 10, 2003 10:58:12 PM CDT
hahahahhaah! Self indulgent post of the year: "Matrix is so godd
by tall_boy
hahahhaa. that was gold, jerry! Gold!
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I swear to God! What more do you self righteous over critical fucks want? If Jesus Christ himself returned today, you would be on the sidelines saying "Worst Effects Ever!"
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...what Aliens was to Alien. It's just a very cool looking trailer. I'm definitely going to see it. I don't think anyone claimed Reloaded to be the most intelligent movie ever made, or the most philosophically adept movie ever made. The talkbacks seem to reek with negativity for the sake of negativity. Okay, Phillip K. Dick does wonderful science fiction short stories. So what? No one said The Matrix was better than anything Dick came up with. There are too many jaded and irritated people on the internet.
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Standing behind Trinity when she says "Nice Trick" (He's the same guy on the back of the bike with her on the freeway). Maybe Trinity is trying to save this mad scientist who can shut down the matrix?
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People who bitch about The Matrix being a ripoff are embodying Nietzsche's notion of ressentiment, where you instinctively hate something that's either better than you or better than you could do yourself. The first movie exceeded all my expectations and gets better, not shallower, on repeat viewings. The next two look to be even more of the same. May can't come soon enough.
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Need I say more?
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Does anyone know the song playing right as the WB logo appears and fades away? It's not the same music used in the other trailers, ie, Overseer
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this movie is going to be great....and the trailer must be the best trailer ever.
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The song is "The Wonders of You" by Andy Hunter off of the album Exodus. Your welcome ;)
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Apr 10, 2003 11:55:08 PM CDT
all this hubbubabout revolutionary graphics... hmm... a lot of t
by mansep
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This ranks right up there with the later trailer for the Two Towers as far as it's quality and gee-whiz shots. Hopefully this will work the same level of magic as The Two Towers did. It also has one of the virtues of the Two Towers trailer, in that it seems to reveal very little about the actual plot. A good sign. Laying out everything in a trailer is a sign of desperation for filmmakers and producers.
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...I think this will be the event of the Year; these movies are full of the mythic feel that Star Wars lost a long time ago. I doubt Return of the King will be this good, although it will be a definite toss-up.
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To you haters trying to debunk the Matrix films...ummm, we like them because we like them. Comparing the Matrix to films like LOTR and such doesn't make sense...comparing the story of the Matrix to things like Bladerunner and such is a waste of time...there's no doubt about it; the Matrix revolutionized action sequences years ago, who cares if they use bullet-time again? They fucking invented it!
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A trailer hasn't gotten me this hyped for a movie since the first Phantom Menace Trailer a few years ago. Looks like the action sequences might just live up to all that hype after all.
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For those of you who think this is just another CGI flick, check out this article on Wired.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.05/matrix2_pr.html
The movies that WOW! us are usually the ones that break the mold and invent something new - the ones who did it first. And this more than qualifies in that regard. And unlike some Special Effects driven movies, I expect a good, solid story & plot to go along with it. -
The Lizzie Macguire movie will OWN during May... so sorry, Gaytrix
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Why in the hell was Neo flying away from Joe Millionaire's French castle at the end of that trailer? Seriously though. That trailer rocked. Anyone who thinks that the CGI is fake/not-real-looking-enough has serious friggin' problems. Sorry, but crazy tentacle robots, flying-submarine spaceships, 3D motion cameras and people shooting live ammo at each other while falling 40 stories through fire and broken glass just isn't feasible in cinema in this day and age. IT'S A FUCKING MOVIE, GEEKS!!!!!!! Enjoy it for what it is. Later.
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Apr 11, 2003 1:51:45 AM CDT
OMFG! This is gonna be the greatest film since The Hot Chick!!!
by jules windex
Look at all the redundant bullet-time fx! That's great! For real though, this'll be a damn cool flick, but I bet X2 kicks its ass.
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Even running off a Pentium 2.4 with 550 meg of RAM the smallest of the trailers takes about 90 fucking minutes to download. Take pity on the poor fanboy who doesn't have bored, rich parents and unlimited internet time.
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Hey, the Matrix movies aren't about simply dismissing 'the bad guys' as robots, or computers, or aliens, or 'monsters'... These flicks are very much about feeling like something is not exactly right... like there is a larger, there-but-not-there force at work in shaping and defining your world.. a force which does not care for you, but only wishes to profit from simultaneously engineering and fulfilling your biochemical and psychological urges... creating a massive system of engineered information, entertainment and need-fulfillment to keep you in the womb... hmm now what does that sound like.. hey why is that guy in a suit at my door?
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Because I want to be cool and the quickest way to appear cool is to hate something everybody else likes, right? It seems to work for a lot of people in this talkback, anyway. But seriously, the fact that there are so many people saying how 'boring' or 'gay' or 'fake' this trailer is just confirms that all talkbacks are nothing but bullshit. I understand that there are people who aren't interested in the Matrix sequels, but I refuse to believe those people would bother reading about or downloading the trailer, then post on a talkback to make sure that everyone knows how much they don't like it. At least trolls have a genuine hatred for the movies they bitch about, but these matrix haters are just a bunch of posers. The tailer was the shit. Accept it and move on.
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I like how all you pussies bitch about the CGI yet in movies like the Hulk and Spiderman you think are God. Star Wars (Newer Onces) Sucks, Spiderman Sucks, and the HULK will all suck. But the Matrix looks hella good!
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Apr 11, 2003 2:53:53 AM CDT
Lizzie Macguire will probably make a shitload of money that week
by psyclops
...because all of those underage ticket buyers will be sneaking into The Matrix. I'm just sayin'...
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Seriously... Milli Vanilli in white (whoever said that first was dead on) turn into ghosts straight outta my fave 80's movie. Let's see, what else. Oh, that one shot of Agent Smith walking slowly with the crows? Straight outta The Crow. Big duh there. Absolutely blatant plaigiarism. The freeway scene came from playing Burnout on the playstation a bit too much (fucking awesome game, tho). The flying looks very Dragonball Z. Oh, that and I liked the slo-mo explosion better in Cowboy Bebop. But oh well, this movie's dripping with so much style they HAD to steal it from someone. Let's just hope there's enough substance behind the style to make it worthwhile. I dunno about you, but the only reason I thought The Matrix stood out above the rest was its philosophy, so if they have nothing new to offer... well... it'll be fun, but I'll be disappointed. Helluva ride, tho.
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And no, I meant to spell that like that. Here's the dilly. Shut the hell up you haters. TM:Reloaded and TM:Revolutions will own all of you, and put all you hating mo-fos in their seats. These two movies will own all of you, and you don't even realize it. You people just hate just to hear yourselves complain and I'm sick of it. What makes me sicker is when someone actually has the balls to say they like the first movie and will see the next two, you brow-beat them into oblivion. Obviously you trolls are just trying to sabotage the movie's chances. I've seen the CGI, it owns. Shut the hell up. I've seen the fight sequences, they're so much more well refined than wire-fu. Shut the hell up. It looks like all you haters want to do is whine, bitch, and moan. The revolution is coming, and it's about to pass you by. TRY AND CATCH ME, BIATCH! - Zone Zero, The Concience and Spiritual Paragon of AICN
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The first or next person to scream plagarism will get a flatulent skunk thrown in their lap. And the skunk just got done eating 3 chili-cheese burritos and 3 habanero peppers. Hope you brought a gas-mask fellas. TRY AND CATCH ME, BIATCH. - Zone Zero, Spiritual Paragon of AICN
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while the X2 trailers have been increadibly smooth and detailed in both picture and sound :(
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These guys know how to make a comic book world come alive and kick some serious ass. God, that thing rocked.
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Apr 11, 2003 3:58:00 AM CDT
Several more lashes, lads, and the pain shall subside...
by shub-wankalot
...now man those oars and put your gutless backs into those strokes...damn your scurvy hides...just steer me to the premiere of this cinematic wonder!
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Because it's going to be a fucking RIDE! Oh yeah! But a few questions: The actress who plays the Oracle died during the production; right after "Reloaded" was wrapped but before anything for "Revolutions" was shot. So do you think she gets wiped out? A huge fight between her and some agents? (That'd blow away anything with Yoda - that would seriously be the coolest piece of American cinema, ever: an old black woman taking on dozens of white guys in suits! Haha, yes!) And if "Reloaded," according to Joel Silver is set almost entirely in the matrix, and "Revolutions" is set almost entirely around Zion and the "real world," is the third one going to be a huge bore? I mean, Neo isn't that special outside of the matrix, right? Or is that going to be the whole surprise? Haha, if I just solved the franchise, that'd be really pathetic. Post back if anyone's got some thoughts!
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Picasso once said "I don't borrow. I steal". That guy was a motherfuckin' genius by the way.
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"To you haters trying to debunk the Matrix films...ummm, we like them because we like them. Comparing the Matrix to films like LOTR and such doesn't make sense...comparing the story of the Matrix to things like Bladerunner and such is a waste of time...there's no doubt about it; the Matrix revolutionized action sequences years ago, who cares if they use bullet-time again? They fucking invented it!"
Erm,no they didn`t-the effect was seen in Gap adverts years before The Matrix!
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michael moore, the dixie chicks, harry, and anybody else that was anti-war didn't think we couldn't invade iraq. we're the united states, they're iraq, it wasn't a challenge, it was just whether we SHOULD do it or not. stupid assface. either way, that totally wiped the dumbass grin on my face i got from that trailer. i saw pictures of the viruses a couple months ago, and it didn't really turn my crank, although yes, they do look very virusy with the cgi and all. man this movie is gonna kick the shit out of all asses.
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i remember those gap commercials, it had some girl leapfrogging over some guy to swing music while wearing khaki's, but when she was directly on top of him, they FROZE time, and circled around her. in the matrix, the camera circled around while they were still moving, and shooting no less. not to say the wachowski's didn't take from that commercial or whatnot, i just think they did it in a better way.
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...and is that a sex scene in there? One can only hope. And Starrider, I bet all those Iraqi kids on TV feel *real* liberated now they've no arms, legs or skin left to weight them down.
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Stupid typos, can't see the keyboard from on top of my high horse.
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Based on the Animatrix shorts (especially 2nd Ren), it seems like the machines had a pretty legitimate problem with the human race. Remeber that so far we have only met agents programmed to destroy rogue humans, who are basically really advanced quake bots. Maybe their creators aren't totally evil, but were forced to do what they did because of humanity's action. Perhaps that is a lot of what Revolutions is about, finally meeting the machines and finding out that they are more complex than we thought. So perhaps the complaint about the one dimensional villains won't be so valid when we see the whole story.
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What is "The Matrix"? It's fan-fucking-tastic, that's what it is. I look forward to sucking down more of the same in May. But, if we're going to do the "compare franchises" thing, you may as well do it in style. I've never got the geek love for the X-Men movie, only because I suspect I was an indifferent follower of the comic book. As a movie it was simply all right, and some of the performances absolutely sucked ("Do you know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lighting?"). That said, it did have Sir Ian in it and Wolverine made the movie, (I pretty much take away that the comic books have a similar pro-Wolvy dynamic). Still, X2 should be fun. Looking forward to The Hulk more though, since I always was more into Hulk than X-Men. (Hulk smash! Hulk not do long sentences! Hulk fuck shit up!) But more than either of these, is Matrix Reloaded. And above even that, shining in the sky like the Second Coming, is the benevolent midwinter sun of ROTK. The one thing I cannot get psyched about (though I am sure once it gets here I'll love it) is T3. I'll be happier when I see a proper trailer, I think...
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In the British press there was a photo picturing the fall of the statue with a Mosque in the background. This to me presents the intrinsic problem with idiots like you mouthing off with your early victories. Though Sadaam's regime has fallen, you still have yet to confirm his death or capture. Most importantly, as the photo emphasises, you may have removed the regime, but you now have to bring together a divisive country, stricken with religious unrest. I'm looking forward to see exactly how this is managed.
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do you think people will remember The Matrix trilogy or the Gap ad?
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Apr 11, 2003 7:48:47 AM CDT
OH DEAR STARRIDER, I think someone forgets who the NEWS is run b
by silentbobafett2
Yes there were people cheering and dancing in the streets, yes they are glad they are free. But is Bush and Blair now going to go into all the countries with whose regime they don't agree with. How about Korea and China? Theres alot of people who don't like Bush's regime..... would it be okay for them to come over and bomb you, kill your family and then ONE PART of the country dance while you morn your dead sister, mother and father. Saddam was an evil asshole, but theres lots of them. People are opposed to this war for many reasons one of them is cos of what I heard on the news this morning: U.S MARINES have SHOT DEAD 2 childeren in the Bagdad. Why? Because the childeren were running at them so fast that the Marines fired upon them incase they were suicide bombers. I understand there fear, but childeren bombers? If U.S MArines are the toughest and most intelligent int eh world, how did this happen? THAT IS WHY WE ARE AGAINST THE WAR. IT IS FOR MONEY, OIL and to force American values and culture upon the rest of the world. I love America, I love PARTS of yoru culture but I WOULD HATE every country int he world to be full of Mc D's, Wendys, Blocbusters, Texaco etc etc. I travel the world to see its difference, ALL of its cultures, not to see American culture. If I wanted that I'd go to AMERICA!!! But other than that Matrix will kick asss along with Kill Bill, and they're American, so stick to what you do best..... over the top madness and eating. Over and out. P.S Harry; keep it cool And how about some Big Fish stuff? P.P.S Sorry about the typos, but can't be assed to read this back cos I wam on here to talk films, I thought everyone was. Can we stop this politcal talk and leave it for another site. I wanna talk about escapism, not the harsh realitites that will be biting U.S.A and Britian in the future...... I'm scared...... I hope I get to see Matrix and Kill Bill before the consequences come.........
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http://www.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=2561&lang=en
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Does anyone know if the trailer is hosted anywhere else other than AOL? My company filter blocks it...SUCK...good thing I watched it last night...but I wanna see it again.
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Apr 11, 2003 8:15:30 AM CDT
David V. Ortega aka Starrider, stick with what you know best...
by california split
Staying as pathetically ignorant as you possibly can, and of course, drooling excessively. Take it to Yahoo, punk.
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I simultaneously shat myself, pissed myself, creamed my pants then vomited through sheer euphoria during this trailer. Best film ever.
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Apr 11, 2003 8:50:21 AM CDT
David Ortega's trying to exploit my youthful indiscretions...
by california split
I was young and needed the money! The elephant said he loved me!
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Apr 11, 2003 8:57:00 AM CDT
This looks good, but wait for the trailer for The Pianist Reload
by california split
Wladyslaw Szpilman takes on Adolf Hitler piano vs. piano in the most heart-stopping musical contest since "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"! Hitler's goin' down!
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Ok Chet, I'll be willing to concede that that photo is hardly conclusive proof, just thought it was interesting on a site with a lot of stuff that genuinely is impartial. Just think that all this posturing about the succesful resolution to the war is a little hollow when uttered over the pictures of dead/maimed Iraqi kids. And assholes like starrider get on my tits. *****ON TOPIC: Did you know the Matrix twins were on a shiity cheap UK home makeover show CHanging Rooms, before hitting it big here. Its unbelievable how lucky some asshole can get.
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everyone inside of and outside of (zion) the matrix are all a computer simulation that is being run to see what would happen if machines took over the world...sorry if i ruined it for anyone ;) they are still going to be two awesome movies...
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Is how creative one can get if you can focus after a bowl of the
Hydro. But I digress.....I read the Wired article, and while I'm jonesing to be the first silly fuck in line to see this bitch, 'specially since it'll be me & my hot ass Colombian girlfriend and her six fine girlfriends who are coming in to visit that week, I gotta say this. It is to date, the most photorealistic CGI I've ever seen. Emphasis on the PHOTO. I couldn't help thinking, as I geeked out at the car chase, that utimately, it doesn't look quite real. Maybe because there ain't no fucking frame of reference in real life FOR human beings fighting in, out, and around vehicles moving at over 100 godblessed mph for me to compare it to. Dudes in blck capes don't usually do fly-bys in MY neighborhood on a regular basis. I've seen folks get jumped before, but not by 100 guys in suits that look exactly alike, while the jumpee's rotating around a lampost running on their faces. Hey free counrty and all that, but for fuck's sake, revel in the fact that now these guys are smoking more potent shit, and are spending $300+ mill of the WB's money to up the ante on their previous ass kicker of an effort. Or are you naysayers who've yet to actually see the fucking locked film would rather see it fail, so we can get horseshit like Half Past Dead, part 2? They're busting their asses (the Matrix team, the HIlk team the X2 team) to give us what we want and more. I'll support this shit outta anyone who realizes that what matters at the end of the damn day, is that the audience who shell out their hard earned $$ at the multiplex may reinvest in the picture if it kicks some ass. They would REALLY have to fuck this thing up in order for it to be shitty, and I dare say it may get me back in theatres for four viewngs, as it's predecessor did four years ago. -
...is the lack of potential spoilage, ie Three two minute trailers showing all the best action/pivotal moments. One small trailer, one large trailer. Appetites nicely whetted now. Roll on the 15th
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I think I know what the big cliff-hanger is going to be. Check out the Japanese trailer and comapre it to what the new trailer shows us. That's all I'm going to say but if I'm right then the wait for November will be long indeed.
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Apr 11, 2003 9:38:54 AM CDT
Coming from an impenatrable fortress of protective irony that pr
by mortsleam
That trailer fucking rocked! I am so fucking jazzed to see these movies! I unreservedly loved the first movie (well, except for a few dialog issues and Keanu's reliably horrendous performance) and have utter faith that the next two will kick my ass! Flame away troll bitches, you can't deny the spectacle of the real revolution we're about to witness. Goo-Goo g'Fuckin' Joob!
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hard to say, maybe this movie has been hijacked by cgi. Not overly impressed with the burly brawl. It felt like I was watching a video game. I'm not interested in paying 8 bucks to watch a video game. And what's with those guys standing in a line firing guns. Lame.
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and Star Wars will rule them all! Episode 3 is coming!
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That was probably one of the most well-thought and well-written talkback posts I've seen. That being said...LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP.
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The war is a sham. If yur going into to get rid of one man you don't bomb innocents. Bombs over estates? What just in case Saddam was there? Bullshit. Pre-emtive strike? Remember, it never was about kicking out Saddam, althought hat would of been nice, it was about the fear they would attack US. SO we attacked them first. How do you win waining public support? YOu tell them your kicking out an evil regime who terroises its own people. Fair enough. BNut what about all the other countries out there doing it? Will Bush and Blair now go into all these coutnries and change there evil regimes. If they are, then why did they start with Iraq? Its not the most thearthing...... are you guys aware of where the Korean army is at right now? I suggest you get onto it and look at what the Western news ain't showing us. Becuase Korea has weapons to harm us, Iraq didn't. Sorry, what did you say? They do. Well we never saw proof. If America has sat back for QUARTER OF A FUCKING CENTURY and let these acts of UNFREEDOM happen then why couldn't they wait a few mroe weeks for the Blix report? Why didn't they plan the attack better? Even on the western enws they have had reports and interviews with Cheifs and Serg's about how the strike "Could of been planned better." Oh and did you also know that right now there is no law in Baghdad. So that means that murder, rape and theft to name but three, are happily taking place. But instead of it being ordered by Saddam it is being done by any fucker who fancies ago. So my question: If,a syou say, and I do partly belive you, that America is doing this for freedom then why not before? Why not free Tibetians where thousands are killed EVERY YEAR by China? What about Korea? Theres so many? Why after 9/11? Oh, what cos you relised that there is a world outthere that don't agree with American values? 9/11 was a tragedy, a disgusting day which was ordered by a fucke dup human. But, oh he was having lunch int eh white house the year before. What changed? WHY DID AMERICA AND BRITIAN NOT GO INTO IRAQ 24 YEARS AGO? BIg mac anf ries please and some petrol (Texaco is one of my fave garages, they have the best porn in there shops!) Not personal, just don't understand it all, maybe cos I'm thick, sorry. But all this freedom for iraqi's nonsense is driving me mad. YES it is good, but why not before the year 2001? Again, sorry for Typo's!!! LOL
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How f'in hard is it to shoot a REAL person and composite them digitally? Christ on the Cross! I'm watching a freakin' video game. DON"T try and sell me on "Oh, it's a digital world", 'cause that's bullshit! Don't eat that Elmo.
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Apr 11, 2003 10:14:05 AM CDT
"The rapture! Bart, are you wearing clean underwear?" "Not anymo
by xthecrovvx
Dear...sweet...fucking...christ.....it's beautiful.......the only problem is, that may be our last fix until may!! Too much time!!!! The wait is horrendous!
Oh, and for the record, earthworm, yes, the Wachowskis did promise Neo/Trinity sex a while back....hence the sexuality thingy under the rating....that is all....if someone can just put me in a nice quiet cryosleep until May 15th (with a quick break on May 2nd for X2), thatd be nice...Revolution is still my name. -
...some asshole a few weeks ago posted a supposedly genuine MASSIVE spoiler without warning. It was probably bullshit, but its got me pretty fucked off in case its true. Idle speculation is OK, but can we keep away from the facts here people!
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Apr 11, 2003 10:19:24 AM CDT
C'mon!! We're not even in Bagdhad! The Americans are in retreat.
by sideshowbill
So says Bagdhad Bob, the Iraiq Information Minister. So, silentbobafett...our media lies huh? But the arab media....truth all the time. You guys fucking suck. You will never admit you are wrong. The blood of any dead Iraqi children is solely on the hands of that regime. Get a fucking clue, asswipe.
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You gotta be dead not to appreciate this. My heart is fluttering.
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I saw her on The Cosby Show the other night on Nick At Nite. She was giving a speach at Hillman college. Then she gave all the Cosby kids cookies and told them their careers would end w/ the show. MATRIX RULES! To those saying this trailer was disappointing, congratulations! You're ability to run against the grain simply amazes the rest of us. It's undescribably mind boggling how you can be so different!!!! You go girls!!!!!!
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Star Wars is for babies! You like a baby show! You baby!
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Apr 11, 2003 10:32:07 AM CDT
I'm pretty sure the Oracle did die, but after she'd filmed a few
by earthworm
...maybe she's CGI?
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This film will rock our world HARD. And to those who say this looks boring and it will suck. Horray, you're different.
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If you're looking through these posts, make sure you read Oneragga's comments. He hit the nail right on the head. What I find funny is that all the fuckin' pussy ass bitches that are bitching about the trailer are going to run and see it the first fuckin' day. I'm even willing to say that anyone, granted they aren't a fuckin' schizo, who is complaining about what is definitely one of the most amazing trailers ever seen, has probably never gotten laid either. Fuckin' buncha cocksuckers. And I don't want to hear anymore of that Star Wars is better than this or Star Wars is better than that because you know what? Those last two shit bomb prequels have fucked up the series completely. What can you say about those movies when the best thing between the two of them was the sound those seismic charges made when exploding in the asteroid field? The Matrix will rock. And I don't need to be the ultimate Matrix geek to know that. Stop being fucking haters because you're all going to see the goddamn movie(s) anyway! And Oneragga, I'll be right there on line with ya, with my hot ass Japanese girlfriend!
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Apr 11, 2003 11:05:28 AM CDT
'The Mitrix Reloaded looks too CGI" - It's a COMPUTER GENERATED
by k0ny
Does the gang of agent Smiths look computer generated? Well, that's because it IS! Has anyone considered that only about 2% of that trailer takes place OUTSIDE of "the Matrix?" In the "real world" people can't fly or cut BMWs in half with a Katana. If they pull off what the trailer suggests, this film could contain the best use of computer effects EVER. See, there's no excuse for a gnome with magic powers to look "digital" if he lives 'A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.' Those who play in a computer generated virtual world however, may appear digital as a side-effect of hacking the matrix to produce the desired 'special' effects. Good lord, I never thought I'd be playing the "voice of reason" on one of these stupid talkbacks!
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...Or did that Jada Pinkett Smith kick seem pretty wimpy compared to all the other action in that trailer? Anyways, is this movie going to take the special effects oscar from PJ?
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Odd, I'm in my thirties and I am currently reading two books right now...Yet I'm really excitied about this movie.
And before you attribute another stereotype to me, I am married with a son and I do not read comic books.
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That's a ludicrous statement, not to mention scapegoating and totally unconscionable. The blood of dead Iraqis is on our shoulders. We took up the burden of war, the 'liberation' of Iraq in the form of an invasion. We sold the chemical weapons to Saddam that were used on Kurdish villages. We gave Saddam the key to the city of Detroit. While the multitude of civilians deaths is at both times, tragic and inevitable - at least have the common intelligence to hold to the courage of your convictions. Frankly, I find your little musings to be the epithet of a coward.
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hmmmm, then I guess the fact that I'm in my early 30's, have an exec. level position at a highly successful travel company, moonlight as a nightclub promoter in Miami Beach, Fl, been with the same ex-model chick for the last four years, [since she was 18]throws a monkey wrench into your whole fucking theory, doesn't it? It's the World Wide Web,asshole! This site brings film geeks of all shapes, sizes, persuasions and perversions to shill on shit we like, namely, FILM!! And even though you're probably a zit faced fuck with no hope of ever getting any pussy other than when your mom asks you to go fetch the family cat, guess what? You have a right to be here too. SO try to make intelligent informed commentary about the discussion topic at hand, and quit talkin outta your ass about shite you have absolutely no way of knowing or proving...kinda like the comment I just made about you. Fuckhead....
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Apr 11, 2003 11:49:40 AM CDT
"but please, no one and i mean NO ONE who regularly posts on thi
by josef k
Considering I am a director at a theatre in Chicago that specializes in Shakespeare, Shaw, and Ibsen and I studied at RADA...hmmm wrong again.
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That series lost its balls on Memorial Day weekend, 1999. It's making money on the goodwill built up by film fans, like myself, who've been attending these last 2 souless motion pictures hoping for even a glimmer of the staggering fucking sense of awe we first experince back in 1977 and 1980. No ROTJ didn't have it, but even that excuse to sell some fucking fluff toys beats the shit out of TPM and AOTC. If Lucas had real nuts, he'd go BACK to miniatures and models, which I think if where his sense of awe is stored, in a back room wharehouse on the ILM campus, in a crate next to the fucking Ark of the Covenant.
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I'll have my assistant schedule in a time for your asswhipping. Or do they fly to Miami from Fuckville?
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Another thing you need to realise is that the only people who continually, over and over keep on comparing any given genre films to Star Wars is the Lucas monkeys themselves. Nary a article can appear on this site without some asshole telling us that Episode III will "own our asses" despite all available evidence to the contrary. Two films and what have you got to show for it, a dual bladed light sabre and (as someone below correctly pointed out) some cool torpedo noises, thats it. If you really believed that the last two SW films stacked up IN ANY WAY to the originals, you wouldn't feel the need to CONTINUALLY remind us about that turd thats due in 2005.
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Worm, absolutely correct. I'll give 'em the novelty of adding "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Yoda" in as well, but after that, it pretty much ate a bag of shite. The films are a prime example that special effects alone do not make a picture great. Where's the sense of adventure?
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...you see unlike these other posters I actually am now a millionaire thanks to those numbers ;-) I just think Star Wars is now massively overated by a few Lucas loving die hards, especially compared to Matrix/LOTR/Xs and poss (hopefully) Hulk. Incidentally, I am also surprised at the esteemed company we find ourselves in though. Suspiciously so...
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1)probably cannot read, and certainly don't ever attempt to, beyond comic books, manga, or SEARS women's undergarments catalogues.
You're right, I can't read. At all. As for the SEARS women's thing, I prefer Victoria's Secret. If you had a girlfriend, you'd understand.
2)are under 25 years of age, and have never seen a film made before 1990.
I'm 28. I have seen movies before 1990. At least, last time I checked.
3)do not have friends, other than pseudo-intellects who also think that this film and the 3rd film will "rock hard".
Yeah because all I do when I'm not responding to fuckheaded comments is have roundtable discussions on this film. In fact, I'm beating off to Rob Zombie's Dragula while watching the trailer on repeat.
4)are likely to assume Peter Jackson is doing a "good job" with LOTR. har har.
I'm not even gonna grace that with a response. Gandalf accidentially bumping his head in Bilbo's house was more entertaining than your precious 30-year franchise prequels that ruined the series as a whole. Har fuckin' har. But like you said, I haven't seen any movies before 1990, so how is the original trilogy anyway?
5)think SW is "dead", proclaiming that TTT and Spider-Man "kicked AOTC ass", ignoring the fact that AOTC is the 5th film in a franchise almost 30 years old which still brought in over 300 mil domestically.
Um, yeah it's dead alright. How good does Ep3 have to be to erase the damage done by the first two films? So good that it couldn't be made into a two hour film, that's for sure. TTT did kick the ass of AOTC. I'll take Gollum's conversation with himself over anything that AOTC had to offer. Spider-Man? Bad CGI but still more enjoyable. Also, if you have to justify the worth of AOTC with it's gross, remember that My Big Fat Greek Wedding (which was a piece of shite) made over $200 mil.
6)possibly believe Star Trek (the franchise, not the proper original series) is superior to Babylon 5.
Sorry, I'm usually socializing with people or hanging out with my woman when that show comes on.
7)believe anything done in the Star Trek universe after 1982 was any good.
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. Definitely watchable.
8)think Danny Elfman can compose music.
At one point, he could. And where the hell does Danny Elfman fit into this?
9)believe the acting in the "original" Matrix film (there's a laughable term regarding that turd.)was credible, ever.
Yeah and Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen are gonna be graced with Lifetime Achievement Awards for their work on Ep.1 and Ep.2.
And think about this, Natalie Portman was pretty consistent in her performances until she worked with Dr. Dick Lucas!
10) actually thought, for even a moment, that bullet-time was "cool".
Damn. You got me. I still think it's cool. Does that make me an asshole now? If it does, then hey! We've got something in common!
To everyone else: LEAVE THE WAR TALK OFF OF THE TALKBACKS! I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT THE MATRIX?
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Apr 11, 2003 12:10:01 PM CDT
TTT was a piece of shit, Baghdad will be another Vietnam, ATOC w
by jango fett
Get it fucking straight people. Saddam was an innocent leader protecting the Arabs and we march in there and steal his oil! TTT was the worst film ever made, an embarrassment. Hiw boring and poorly acted. ATOC was pure genius and Hayden is a remarkable beauty. The Matrix is an uninspired rip off.
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You may have been first but I am always first with God!!!!
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Us losers are taking a day off...you can do that when you have a real job. Get one and try it out.
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The matrix is one of my all time favorite movies, and who cares if some of the ideas may have ben ripped off from who ever what. it was a visually great movie, and the story was pretty decent. The trailer looks great, not awesome, but just great. It didn't blow me away, but then again the first had that effect because many people had never seen anything like it, so now we have gotten used to it.
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Jesus - so we invade a nation, lob 8,000 tomahawks at its capital to remove a ruthless dictator we supported, praised and armed for fifteen years until it became strategically inconvenient - yet we accept no responsilbility for any of the outcomes. This kind of arrogance will only insure that history is repeated again and again.
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I figured I'd address every point you made because let's face it, assholes like you exist to be shot down. You wanna be so different. You wanna be so against the grain. You make these patronizing comments about anyone who has an interest in something that's obviously much better than what you hold so dearly. Personally, I don't live on the talkbacks and this is like my fifth post. Your comments irritate me because you're just so damned smarmy. And lastly, how else am I gonna give my reasons for disagreeing with you unless I break apart what you say? Man, you are a dick! And it's funny how you can't even give a direct response to my own responses? I own you, maybe?
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Okay, THAT was fucking funny. Just had to add, First Contact was not that bad...and how DID Danny Elfman end up in this, anyway? Anyway, one more thing before lunch...the one thing I don't dig about the Matrix sequel trailer is what seems to be the quest to take all the films that have "been inspired" by it (and yeah, I kow the original is itself a pastiche of Hong Kong/ JEt Li, biblical homages, who cares, they fucking did it well) and do them better. What I'm hoping is that when they claim that the new films have "raised the bar regarding special effects so high that no one else will attempt to reach it" that they're bringing their "A" game with respect to the awe factor. But dammit to hell, I'll be there waiting. And to the shmucks that question who we are and why we have time to post today, one little perk of success is delegation. Gives us time to fuck off. Anyway, off for a massage and a blowjob. LATER!!!!
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This trailer looks absolutely sick.
Favourite parts:
1. The logo at the beginning with the music playing (I am always a sucker for the studio logo and music playing, I know LAME.. but I LOVE the set-up)
2. Neo turning his head while doing the spin kick with the staff. Makes him look more life-like. Also the staff bounce off Agent Smith is coolios.
3. The shot of the Agent Smiths piling on and Neo exploding out of them. I am real sucker for almost surreal cinematography, and this is as surreal as its going to get in a Hollywood picture. (also Agent Smiths turning in the hall, excellent framing and awesome flurorescent lighting)
4. The chase through oncoming traffic. Take a look at the camera tracking UNDERNEATH the truck! I know, its CG, but these guys are stealing my dreams!!
5. The Akira-esque shockwave before flying, the way the ground warps. Total anime and a half.
The movie looks tough. The trailer nearly brought tears to my eyes, I knew cinema could push the boundaries. I just want it to be exponentially more. The aesthetic with leather and sunglasses is still kind of lame. Wouldn't they want to fit into society so that they aren't noticed? But I suppose its like superhero costumes, so I can't complain.
When I first saw the Matrix (the day it was released, in fact the first screening that very Wednesday afternoon, and with my DAD who fell asleep during it) I thought that Keanu acted lame in it. I thought the performances were campy and some of the stuff looked too fake.
But I walked out of the theatre very fulfilled. I thought about it for awhile, and I realized the one thing that I was really impressed with was the VISION. The camera work was superb, the lighting was great (the production design could use some work) but overall, I was rooting FOR THE CAMERA! I loved the liberated camera, I loved that it did what I used to do when I was kid playing with LEGO and other toys.
Overall, I don't really care that much about the story or the acting in the Matrix, because to me, the most compelling character of the film is the one that is unseen, yet sees everything... the camera.
And for that reason, I will be watching the Matrix sequels, with wide eyed anticipation, and an equally wide grin on my face (just don't blame me for cheering the cinematography!)
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Except maybe for Dean Cain
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Anyone who logs on here to post stupid shit like "too CGI" or "Real stuntmen don't use pixels" need to get the fuck out. "The Pianist" and "Bend it Like Beckham" (both good movies BTW) are playing and are more your cup of tea. I haven't felt this kind of rush from a trailer in ages. I'm still really looking forward to X2 and Return of the King, but Matrix just became my #1 'must see'.
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Then you should stop seeing movies. I saw CGI in a comedy last night on HBO for crying out loud. And THIS film in particular is supposed to take place INSIDE a computer so let it go man, take a deep breath, and let it go . . .
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My understanding is, the reason they made these films was to make a live action anime film. The film is influenced by akira and ghost in the shell, and a slew of other films. I watched Ghost with my girl last week and she couldn't believe how much of an influence the film had on the Matrix. The trailer for this film looks AMAZING, just fucking cool as shit, can't wait to see it.
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I usually never make political posts on this site because most of the politically-oriented posts do not deserve recognition, however I just cant take this shit anymore. I have some points for review:
*Even if you are fervently anti-war, you are an INFIDEL. Osama & Saddam want you DEAD, and they will not seek UN approval to kill you. *This is not "Blood For Oil". If we really wanted oil, we would have simply taken all of Kuwait's or travelled north to Canada. *This is not a "Holy War". American Christians & Jews would prefer not to kill any Muslims that did not want to kill them first. *If you still hold some blind faith in the UN, digest this: Libya is the head of the UN Committee on Civil RIghts, and IRAQ is the head of the Global Disarmament Committee. *When we go to war, we acknowledge the ugly fact that civilians will be killed. We somberly accept it and GO OUT OF OUR WAY (that's right) to avoid civilian casualities. We do not explicitly target civilians (9/11) and then applaud it. *Bringing up the point that Saddam gassed his own people with weapons the US sold to him is like blaming the Louisville Slugger company when a madman beats his child to death with a baseball bat. *Just because I support taking out Saddam militarily, doesn't mean I'm "PRO-WAR". I'm also Pro-Choice, but not Pro-Abortion. *You have every right to speak your view and peacefully protest without being a major disruption. I also have every right to disagree. People weren't booing that Michael Moore was using his right to free speech, they were booing the loud-mouthed, obnoxious way in which he did so (and always does so). If you noticed, nobody booed Adrien Brody. *Unlike Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon and others, I do NOT profess to know more than the President or the CIA, nor am I privy the information they get every day. *In the end, I think I'm just wasting my breath because no matter how many atrocities were committed, no matter how many people tortured, no matter how many God-given rights Saddam took away from the impoverished Iraqis while he lived in his palaces, some of you still won't get it. -
Since we are arguably both fans of "24", I felt compelled to let you know in a nice, polite, un-talkbackish way that it was Marvin Gaye's daughter Nona Gaye that was brought in to replace Aaliyah, not Jada Pinkett. Peace!!!
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yeah, I've read Shakespeare, too. Several of his plays, actually ... six or seven, at least.
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You'd better be living up to your namesake. If not you're a complete fucking idiot. Reloaded looks to be one of the coolest, most stylish, and just plain bad ass movies ever made. And all you other nay sayers are morons as well. I've yet to read a justified negative comment. You guys are just being your typical bitch selves. Wake up.
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I love how you guys turn around and take some minor support almost 20 years ago to counter the Russians supporting the Iranians and make it that we created this guy? He had BILLIONS in oil money, he didn;t need anyones help. And why don't the French and Russians take some of the blame for selling him weapons AFTER they knew he was a cocksucker? How come evryone looks at our interests and magnifies them a million fold to manipulate a little case but ignores the tons of money these countries poured into post Gulf War Iraq (not to mention weapons that were being sold right up unilt this war). You guys need to step back and get some real perspective cause the weed is clouding your judgment.
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I am so sorry to burst your prepubecent bubble, but AOTC was fucking inexcusable. It was without a doubt the most boring, half assed attempt at storytelling since the last piece of crap that was Crepisode 1, the Phantom Diarrea. Maybe if Goerge Lucas would stop stroking his giant goiter, and sucking of the boys at ILM, he would realize that the the original Star Wars was a great movie , not because of the effects, but because of the characters, and the story! And that Empire was the best of the first three because Lucas was less involved! Let a screenwrighter with some talent write the script, and a director who knows how to tell a story direct. and george can go back to producine, and working on effects and audio systems, which I will give him Props for.
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Now we've gotten to the point where the Chet Donnelly's of the world have rendered Iraq complicite in the 9/11 tragedy. Like its a fact. And this 'minor' support of Saddam 20 years ago - like it means nothing, or isn't indicative of a short-sighted foriegn policy base that has resulted in more wars fought in the last 10 years than in the previous 40. Unbelievable. As for the praise Saddam shit - find out why - I'll make it really simple - go to google, type in Saddam, key, Detroit. Read about Rumsfeld's visit in 1984. The worst part is that you've already claimed success - the job isn't done there yet freedom fighters and nation liberators - Let's see if the commitment goes beyond the acquisition of resources. Homer Jay - Not Blood for Oil because if it was you'd simply walk into Canada or Mexico? My god man you would not. It's not in your best interests - strategically, militarily or trade-wise. The US is not an island and doesn't produce all that it buys and like every other nation on the planet relies on foriegn investment and trade (take a look at US trade deficits). Frankly that line of thinking is stupifyingly simplistic.
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The point that I was trying to make is that the BLOOD FOR OIL argument IS "stupifyingly simplistic". I never said we SHOULD steal oil from Canada. I simply meant that if oil is all that this is about, we could "steal" it much easier elsewhere without the cost of military or civilian lives.
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Homer Jay, you sound like a robot, spewing establishment propaganda like that. The Matrix has you. FREE YOUR MIND! Escape from your prison of mythology and come to the light...
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...X2 will be a better overall movie.
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Nuff said.
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And I'm saying it isn't easier. Not given the size of the Iraqi oil deposits, its status as a hostile nation and the convenience of a nation 'at war with terror' make it the easiest target, the best target and it fulfills other strategic needs (like hopefully the road to a Palestinian state). This arguement that if it was all about oil then we'd take oil closer is wrong. It's not about oil - it's about money from oil - Christ, the US produces a shitload and sells it all overseas at inflated prices. If it was about needing oil domestically you'd probably use your own. No, its about dominating the resource, you guys now have your hands on the primary oil supply of Russia and huge parts of Europe and Asia. Don't kid yourself - oil plays a big part in this. While I'm being ganged up on here let me be clear - I'm not saying that removing Saddam is a bad thing - certainly I don't think that the people cheering in the streets of Baghdad was phoney or staged - but be sure that this was a war of opportunity, and in no way has much, if anything, to do with a free Iraq. Yes the UN is a hollow institution - but it seemed to provide enough justification for US war in the past, and now is tossed aside as if its corruption and idiocy is a new phenomenon. You can't have it both ways - if the UN is so bad, then why bother crowing about article 1441? It works if we want it to work - but that means that occassionally it just might not work in your favour. So we've spent the last four months watching the lies spew from every government mouthpiece - yours, mine, theirs, etc. about why. We've come from 'protecting Americans' to 'freeing Iraqis' and back again. Ask yourself - what are the benefits of war? - there are many - Why Iraq? (absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 - those who support this war would say it is pre-emptive, preventative action - totally false - because if anything it is guaranteed to increase anti-US enclaves and national terrorism support and the choice of target is way down the list of those nations that provide physical weapons, funds and intelligence against the US and US interests - see Saudi Arabia, North Korea) Look - all I want is for people to be aware of the bullshit, smell the bullshit and acknowledge the bullshit. That is all.
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You have a point there. The former friend/enemy debate is not an arguement that either justifies, or contradicts the coming of war - but it is an astonishingly regular featue of US international politiking. The 'Kissinger doctrine' if you will. First, done for the impassioned fight against communism (which led to the support of dictators since most nations left to their own self-determination tended to lean left) - now for the basic perpetuation of the movement of goods and services. Essentially designed to maintain the status quo (read: US control). And the price of that policy is war, lives and nations that are used when convenient and then cast away when not. And who pays the price? The people of these nations - tortured by a dictator, abused by a multinational. Not coincidentally, these are the faces of the new terrorists. Now it's not always the US that acts like a bastard, but hey, we seem to have the most impact. We are the architects of our own fate, and we don't seem to be learning.
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"I'm thirty years old, I Have a kid, I have a supermodel for a wife, I'm reading TWO books right now." Yeah, and I live in a mansion where I spend all day plowing gorgeous japanese nyphos with my thirteen-inch dick. It's real easy to brag when nobody can actually see you. WHy is it that star wars geeks are always claiming to be mature, well-educated family men who read Dante and Shakespeare when they're not watching episode II for the fiftieth time, while everybody else on the internet is apparently a skinnly, pimply virgin who reads nothing but comic books. The only thing worse than being a poser is being an internet poser who tells a bunch of obvious lies to make his pathetic obsession appear more justifiable.
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...so let me get this straight: the W. Bros. can come up with a hundred digital agent smiths, the US Army can take an entire country in three weeks with less than 1500 civillian casualties, fuckn Christopher Reeve is gonna be Walking in like a year -- BUT MAKING A FUCKN TALKBACK THREAD EVEN HALFWAY READABLE BY ORDERING THE ENTRIES IN CHRONOLOGICAL SEQUENCE IS BEYOND WHOEVER WROTE THIS SITE'S CODE?!
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Apr 11, 2003 4:27:01 PM CDT
JEZUS, IT'S A FRIGGIN MOVIE TALKBACK FER CHRISSAKES!!!
by iamjacksuserid
GODDAMN, what fuckwadded flying assmonkey turned this talkback into a goddamn political arena?? Was it you, Homer Jay?? If not, ignore. Or whoever it was... Please suck the diarrhea out if my ass with a twisty funstraw you gimptoothed penisclown assbat. Go masturbate in your own feces with the rest of your virgin spunk commando friends playing The Sims on a jizz encrusted EMachine in your mom's basement. Fuckfaced shark jumping, rib cage bombed retardboy beanpole!!
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I smell an alter ego developing...
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so I can't see a thing until this comes up in mpeg or a qt file not for dling.
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and went to fuckin geek heaven. I swear, if I masturbated during that trailer, I would have cum. Hmmmm.... Peace Out.
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Each time i think i can't get more matrix-high than that, the wacko power-packo Wachowskis send me reeling with an adrenaline shock that would put uma thurman's experience to shame !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Of all the reasons Star Wars fans give for hating the Matrix, the stupidest has got to be that the sequels employ bullet-time and wire-fu just as their predecessor. Well, at least bullet-time and wire-fu are cool-looking and entertaining. George Lucas also repeats techniques from his earlier movies, but his great innovation is the wipe edit. "Oooh, I hope he goes with the star-wipe next time." It makes the movies look like an episode of "She Spies." The Wachowski Brothers are the best filmmakers in the world right now for four reasons: 1) they work their asses off 2) they are incredibly detail-oriented 3) they are crazy-intelligent 4) they choose amazing collaborators like Wo Ping, Bill Pope.
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Apr 12, 2003 2:07:49 AM CDT
Counting Crow...who's doing the effects for the Rapture?
by banky the hack
That post made me laugh. I just hope that Dreamworks doesn't animate the Rapture, because it'll be all confusing figuring out who's who...I mean look how they put Gentile noses on all the Jews in The Prince of Egypt...it'd get confusing trying to figure out if I was bathing Christ's feet or just some damned hippie. Plus, since Christ is of Middle Eastern descent, I'm sure the glory of his coming will be delayed several thousand years by random bag checks on the way.
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I think we could all do well around here to take some time to think about how we could tone down the aggrivation and division that our posts cause. For instance, if people would just tone down their enthusiasm for things, everything would be a lot more calm around here...as an example, don't say that a movie will "Rule your gay uncle's azzzz like Richard Simmons!", perhaps just say, "This upcoming film looks better than Spice World". And don't resort to personal attacks like "You queer-bait Mesopotamian bitch-ninja with a hairlip!", instead simply address others here as the obvious, "You slack-ass bastard who should be doing work". And instead of arguing which of thirty-three future films which are not even complete yet will kick the others ass, maybe try commenting on the one that's mentioned by the particular article you are posting under. In that regard, this Matrix thing looks to be movie the likes of which we haven't seen since the first Matrix! At least in the semi-futuristic maching-controlled-planet starring Keanu Reeves genre...
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It did.
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Apr 12, 2003 10:33:45 AM CDT
i jus rode the friggin' bullet at thrill ride Zion !!!!!!!!!!!
by trojandragon
It's been epochs since the time we should have taken our chickenshittish mentalities like "heck-i'm-a-lightsabre-geek-but-ur-a-darned-hellbooked-bullet time-sucker" to rest nine yards under the Martian surface.In bitching about fave flicks , war dicks and beanpole chicks all we are effectively doing is making our collective over-wrought,over-fought,and over-distraught brows get eightfold reeky,ninefold creaky and tenfold steaky. One man's treasure could be another man's trash and vice versa. Spreading love will have the ultimate payoff for all ages and all stages .And you needn't be a Pope or a Rev to know that.
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Posters are bitching about the use of bullet time in this movie. Yeah and...? The characters in The Matrix can dodge bullets. Why would they not use that effect? I don't rememeber the lightsabers, blasters, or X-wings getting an upgrade in the Star Wars movies. If I had to guess it looks like the scene where Neo stops all the machine gun fire is probably the opening scene. Same way Trinity showed off the fighting moves in the first scene of the first movie. Reloaded and Revolutions are building on what came before. No, it's not highly original. It's a Christ allegory among other things. But neither was Star Wars. Ultimately if the film is fun and smart who gives a shit? The trailer looks incredible and I really don't know anyone not psyched to see it. This and X2 are going to be the big ones of Summer. By the same token, Hulk is going to require some good word of mouth to get it beyond the 14 and under demographic. Sorry, but the CGI Hulk looks awful and outside of film websites I have yet to hear anybody excited about it.
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Does anyone know what song is playing directly after Morpheus says "...Neo", Neo starts to fly, then as we see something exploding, it starts? It sounds industrial-dramatic. Can anyone help me out?
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Bunch of chicken sniffing fishfuckers...
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So you must have seen my pictures on the internet...:)
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If I was a fishfucker, I'd have to call one of my moves "Pickled Herring in Cream Sauce"
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Apr 12, 2003 6:34:58 PM CDT
I'm not sure I'm not familiar with this "Matrix" movie you speak
by jackbauer@ctu
Poor Joey Pants. Boy, I bet he was wishing Cypher had just been compliant. Otherwise, he could've been in "Reloaded", instead of the other sequel: "Bad Boys II"
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All you people wasting their time comparing all this classic movies will never understand that those movies are here to makes us geekier. I love all this movies but Star Wars has that innocence and just passion and it's not trying to surpass every other movie out there, that's why I love it and treasure it. The story is simple and it makes you realize and care for this characters. I know all you people will get tear-eyed when Anakin falls in the lava and Luke and Leia get separated. Besides the topic, I wanna make a suggestion, why don't the Wachowski Brothers make Dragonball Z, now tell me this wouldn't be one of the biggest movies of all-time?
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Apr 12, 2003 9:45:38 PM CDT
I hate fanboys who criticize the matrix for originality
by morbd_platypus
Does not all great art come from the inspiration of the artist? Wasn't Star Wars derived from George Lucas' love of old episodic westerns? Was the Lord of the Rings not inspired by Tolkiens love for old English folklore? Originality is a dream...It is only when we weave great ideas together, do we receive a masterpiece. The Wachowskis have taken everything that's good about anime, kung-fu and comics and made it REAL just as Peter Jackson has taken The Lord of the Rings and made it REAL. The Matrix has in fact turned more people on to anime, kung-fu and comics. If it wasn't for The Matrix, I would have never seen such films as Akira, Ghost in the Shell or Iron Monkey. Don
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Nearly 100MB in size. In 1000x540 res..
http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/progressive/thematrix/us/med/trailer_final_1000_dl.zip -
There is one thing I haven't quite got yet after viewing the trailer for the matrix reloaded(which is kickass btw) Why does Neo even bother fighting these new agents, as we see in the trailer. Can't he just destroy them like he destroyed Smith in the first movie? I can understand the difficulty with The new "Agent Smith 2.0". You kill one and the others keep cloning. But Why does he even have to bother fighting these other new agents? I heard him say something briefly in the trailer, Like "upgrades" to the agents. I wonder if they will address this in the movie, I hate it when writers forget key plot points just for the sake of keeping the story going.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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