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Vampires... Werewolves... Just how badass is UNDERWORLD' The Lakebeast Knows!
Hey folks, Harry here... Remember all those pics we had on UNDERWORLD that made it look like it might possibly be a cool movie? The synopsis and character descriptions? Remember when you thought that a Kate would make a sweet sucker in leather? Well... They had a tiny test screening in Los Angeles... and guess what, our spy, Lakebeast was there... From the sound of it... Our gut feeling that the film was cool, is right. Sounds like UNDERWORLD is turning out mighty fine!
Hey Harry,
I live in L.A. and last Thursday attended a screening (I believe it was the first time the film was shown ever) of Underworld. It was in a screening room at a facility where the director Len Weisman had been working on the edit. He spoke for a minute before the movie and explained the print we were going to see had been blown up off of the avid and the resolution would be poor. Also many sound and visual effects, color correcting, music were not yet complete. There were only maybe 25-30 people there.
I really liked this movie, but then again Werewolves are my favorite monster....and they are fighting Vampires....yes please! The film borrows heavily from Matrix, Crow, Dark City, but so what, I like all those movies.
The flick begans as a group of Vampires (led by Selene played by Kate Beckensdale) called the death dealers are out tracking a group of Werewolves (called Lycans) who are in turn targeting a human being (Scott Speedman).
The scene goes underground to the subway where a major fight/shoot out occurs. The Vamps trying to take out the Lycans who are trying to catch the human. It turns out the Lycans have been trying to combine Vampire and Werewolf DNA (at one point a character says "Even at a molecular level they destroy each other"). Turns out the human they have been tracking has the genetics to allow the combination to happen. The head Lycan Lucian is upset they didn't get the human so decides the only way to get the job done is to go himself. Lucian also breaks up two Lycans in wrestling in wolf form for the amusment of the other Lycan, I thought that was a nice touch.
Meanwhile Selene had been investigating things on her own and finds the human's apartment just as he arrives home and the Lycans move in for the kill, after a crazy fight scene (very Matrix/Hong Kong inspired) she manages to escape and saves the human but not before he is bit (and I mean chomped on) by Lucian. After the encounter Selene realizes who Lucian is and the Vampires believed he had been killed by Kahn (who is in charge of the Vampires and has the hots for Selene).
There are lots of plot twists and turns, if you are really interested let me know and I will try to give you a "blow by blow". But the film is very cool. There are new fangled weapons both sides have like guns that shoot bullets loaded with liquid silver so it goes right into the bloodstream. There is a great fight scene between a big ole badass werewolf and a Vampire fighting with whips ala Indiana Jones. Lots of sweet shots of Werewolves crawling down hallway walls ala Aliens. I was a bit confused at times about what the Vampire powers are and I don't really remember how Kahn, one of the leads even died.
The direction is really good, but it's alot to download in just one viewing. I would've liked to see more of a scene where some Vampire elders are arriving via train and are ambushed by the Lycans, didn't seem like the Vamps put up any kind of a fight even though another Elder Victor is a total bad ass (at one point he graps a Wolf by the throat and does the old lift and tear). What happens to Victor is pretty cool too but I don't want to spoil it.
At this stage the transformations looked pretty cheesy and lots of post production is needed (especially the Werewolves!!). They were still plenty of scenes where you can see all the wires attached to the actors!! But overall the movie kicks ass, I think Len Weisman is going to have future in film.
Genre fans can start getting excited for Underworld!!! Hope this was helpful or interesting or informative or something!!
Take Care,
Lakebeast
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Apr 07, 2003 11:31:49 PM CDT
This reminds me of so many of the Playstation 2 video games it i
by terry_1978
Legacy of Kain, Bloodrayne, Devil May Cry...list goes on and on. Not to say I won't check it out, but you know how I must trash everything I come into contact with to maintain my sense of coolness...=P
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Werewolves vs. Vampires with a love story. Yippee!!!
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That's the sign. Once the Aliens comparison is made... what's that smell?
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This movie sounds like a rip-off of an episode of "The REAL Ghostbusters" where Venkman and the gang end up in a town where vampires have imprisoned all the "normal" people. Our heroes break out with the townspeople, but it is a full moon... Turns out the townspeople are werewolves! The werewolves start brawling with the vamps and they bite each other and both groups become were-vamps. Luckily for the Ghostbusters, the were-vamps can't cross moving water so they ride Ecto-1 across a bridge to safety. Man, I loved that show. They should do an animated feature of that.
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If I have to even hear about another derivative plot about Vampire Councils that meet in sinister boardrooms to discuss the fate of their "race" I will fucking kill someone. Would vampires really come together at big tables in suits to view powerpoint slides about their fight for racial dominence? They are the living dead not the dying alive (today's executive workforce)! What is this B-list comic-book-fueled bullshit about vampires and werewolves being mortal enemies!?! It's stupid and unnecessary. Vamps and wolves are supposed to be creatures that are evil by nature who are untainted by petty human gang warfare bullshit. Oh, and add a fucking subplot about goddamn vampire DNA and you've just about covered every single lazy vampire movie convention of the past decade. Please be original! Fuck. No, you know what...forget it, go ahead put the nail in coffin (as it were) for vampire movies: why don't have a computer virus somehow destroy the vampires at the end of the fucking movie. It isn't that I don't want to see Vampires fight Werewolves. I do. However, when it's done in a ridiculous NewJackCity context with Wolf druglords against Vamp pimps...It's a DUMB idea that displays a considerable lack of good writing, originality, and fucking sense. Come on, Hollywood! Quit reducing the walking dead and lycanthropes to gangbangers and chairmen of the board!
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Apr 07, 2003 11:52:10 PM CDT
Here is just hoping that the vampires are elegant badasses rathe
by sith witch
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"They mostly come out at night... mostly."
TheJake is skeptical about this one kids. It could be cool and it could suck ass - first of all, i'd like to know what kinda rating it's aiming for? The idea of a Spawn movie had me hyped until I found out it was PG-13... and boy did that turn out to suck. Hell even the "R" rated version sucked ass.
Pray for coolness.
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--Death. Oh, sweet death. In fact, that's all this movie needs is a cameo by Neil Gaiman's Dee Dee-chan. ^_^ Ah well, I still can't wait to see it. Toppu o Nerae!
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planty plant plantitty plant...
'There are new fangled weapons'OK thats funny........
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This plant needs a feed. Sounds like a plant, but why bother? I'm already hyped for this film thanks the the imagery and the lovely Kate in tight leather..... oh-yeah! No need for a plant, unless it sucks more than a top of the range Dyson........
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Everyone who finds this film and films like it unoriginal, feel free to write a script that is wildly original and will blow everyone away and post it here. Let's separate those who have bark from those who have bite. I'll bet a million dollars noone steps up to the plate. The End.
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There are many beautiful women out there, but there is no other woman who can stand up to Kate Beckinsale. Man alive. I'm getting into the Quikimart freezer. Unfreeze me when robot wives become cheap and effective. I want the first model in the Kate Beckinsale line.
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and by the way, this flick still sounds cool. VAMPIRES vs. WAREWOLVES! Seriously! that "they even destroy each other at the celuar level" made me crack up.
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There are many beautiful women out there, but there is no other woman who can stand up to Kate Beckinsale. Man alive. I'm getting into the Quikimart freezer. Unfreeze me when robot wives become cheap and effective. I want the first model in the Kate Beckinsale line.
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THE HOTTEST BRUNETTE EVER! I'd eat the corn from her shit! Ok maybe not..but I'd definately nuzzle her poop hole!
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Apr 08, 2003 2:49:34 AM CDT
Remember when vampires & werewolves were supernatural creatures?
by st.buggering
Why do we keep getting this horseshit about chemistry and DNA, and all the guns and weapons? It might have been interesting the first time someone tried it (which was quite some time ago now), but it's getting tiresome. How about if someone makes a vampire movie in which they're the cursed undead, are bad guys, use supernatural powers and influence, don't use guns, and (here's the crucial bit) do NOT know kung fu. At this point revisionist vampirism has become the norm, and is no longer original. Returning to the old legends would actually be thinking out of the box at this point. God, I'll be happy when Buffy is over.
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...rent HAUNTED and you get a of of tit and some succulent ass. The movie's pretty good, too.
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can't you find out what's up with Kurt Wimmer's Ultraviolet? I needs me some more gun-kata....
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at least that's what I'd say if the asshole didn't drop a fucking massive spoiler in there. And what good would silver bullets be against vampires? And finally, along with Kiera Knightley, and Lena Headey, Kate Beckinsdale is, well, you can figure it out...
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While I agree that the whole DNA thing is kinda overdone in Blade and the like, I gotta defend Buffy. With the exception of season four and the whole Initiative thing, there has been no real science involved with vampires - and even in the Initiative there was none of this hard science. To the extent that anything vaguely scientific has been said about them, they've gone on to contradict themselves about it regularly. So, much as it goes against your instincts, blame Blade not Buffy (hmm, good tongue-twister that). And as for lesbian vampires, I sat through Vampyros Lesbos once and it was dire, just awful. It wasn't porn, it wasn't horror, it wasn't art house. It was some horrible limbo in between all three and it sucked ass not blood.
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but I was sitting in a room full of boy geeks at the time during a "vampire-a-thon" and they all slated it too. That coulda been because it came after Nosferatu and the Lugosi Dracula though, and before Lost Boys and Blade, so everyone wanted it to be done already.
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I prefer seeing every undead creature getting killed by a human than watching some cheesy supernatural gangsta' film.
Maybe at the end of this horrible movie Van Helsing appears and kills all of the annoying supernatural fuckers!
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Are we talking the Steve Coogan thing here? Cos the only thing scary about that was how far he managed to get his arm down into the barrel to have a really good scrape (and this is coming from a fan)
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Vampires used to be monsters. Nowadays they're just kung-fu gunfighters with fangs. sk
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I'd pay to see that. Towelie, figured as much. Wasn't there also a similar Hammer film with implied rather than realised lesbianism? Or is that the same one?
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Apr 08, 2003 9:43:15 AM CDT
The sequel will have Frankensteins fighting Yetis with nuclear w
by california split
All the while wearing form-fitting leather and defying the laws of physics, Matrix-y like. Perhaps after that we can have mer-men fighting The Blob, then one of the mer-men falls in love with The Blob's daughter, and .....
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If anyone out there wants to read a new twist on the Vampire Genre, go seek out a book called "The World on Blood." I forgot the author. Some of the Vampires join support groups to fight the blood addiction. Sunlight does not kill but merely irritates them, and the more blood they drink the "higher" they get, gaining superhuman strength and endurance. There is one scene where a "sober" vampire is about to infiltrate a vampire fortress but he's just like a regular guy because he hasn't had blood in a while. He needs to go find someone to feed on to become a badass. Also, there's lots of erotic stuff in it. A lot of people claim to like the "Traveling Vampire Show," but that book is horrible compared to The World on Blood. Seriously.
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You seriously think a film about vampires fighting werewolves starring Kate Beckinsdale in a leather outfit needs the slightest bit of Harry hyping to get the fanboys going?
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There is no way this sounds like anything else but crap!
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Apr 08, 2003 11:11:44 AM CDT
Vampires, Werewolves & crazy-ass matrix style fights OH, MY!!!
by czarian
This sounds so f**king cool.I always liked both these creatures.
It finally looks like someone came up with a great way to combine the two franchises.There have been so many attempts to pull this off,this sounds very promising. CAN'T WAIT! -
I think you're giving the Ginger one a lot of credit where it's not perhaps due. To say that the kind of people who come to this site only like 1) Vampires v Werewolves 2) Superman v Batman 3) Anything by Jim Cameron 4) cos Harry tells em to is just maybe overstating his influence. I think the reason this site's talking about potential coolness is cos it largely crept in under the radar, its a neat, if hardly revolutionary idea, and the production art from a few weeks ago looked promising, plus the reasons given in my earlier post. I'd be astonished if AICN or the TBs didn't go nuts for it.
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The Ultimate Lesbian Vampire Movie.
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Looking forward to this one.
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Apr 08, 2003 12:37:42 PM CDT
THE BEHOLDER IS SAD BECAUSE HIS FATHER TAPED OVER THE FIRST PART
by arcadian del sol
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Not only do these films cannabalise themselves over and over,now they are starting to cannabalise other films as well. First of all this movie will be a shitty interpritation of Romeo and Juliette. Second everyone who is involved with it seems to be intent on cramming every semi-hip idea that has put into B-horror and Si-Fi films for the last ten years. This will be the same old garbage at best. When will film makers return to respecting the horror genre and actually start making scary movies. I would like to see a movie that is actually scary. And as for all this style over content film making: the seventies are over, and the people making films then could make those kind of films better then this sencond generation sloppy teeny-hippster crap that is being chund out right now. Sorry for the rant, I love horror films and seeing movies like this getting made just breaks my heart.
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Apr 08, 2003 12:51:59 PM CDT
Dark Horizons posted the new poster up looks a lot like Birds Of
by sonnychiba
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news03/p-under.jpg
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That's the most blatant poster rip off since Boston Public recycled the old One Sheet for Teachers--only that at least waited twenty years. This movie sounds like good Blade-Buffy camp fun (probably more Blade than Buffy), but it's a shame when they use the exact same imagery from the one sheet of a failed TV show.
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Apr 08, 2003 3:22:42 PM CDT
Since when has Buffy ever been about anything BUT the supernatur
by smeg for brains
All of the idiots comparing scientific takes on Vampires and Werewolves to Buffy have obviously never watched the show. They probably just tossed it off as Dawsons Creek with Vampires. Well in Buffy there is no science. Vampires are demons reanimating the human hosts, and removing their souls. It is all just a modern take on all the old myths, even down to emphasizing at every opportunity that a Vampire has to be invited into a home. Also as for the kung fu Vampire fighting in Buffy and other more recent Vamp movies. Um if you were a super powered supernatural being with incredible strength and dexterity how would you fight? Would you use huge avoidable roundhouse punches and slaps, or Vegas showgirl kicks? HELL NO. You would kick ass kung fu style. Not that they should use specific styles of martial arts (unless it is in the character), but Martial Arts are effective because they are fighting styles that depend on strength, and dexterity, and focus on the most pure fighting moves. If you were automatically given the speed and power to do fast martial arts style fighting I think it would only be natural to do that. Not that every Vampire movie has to be a martial arts action movie, but the action based movies, like Blade, almost have to use that kind of fighting or they just look stupid.
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Apr 08, 2003 3:34:00 PM CDT
What with this and Van Helsing, this year is going to be dominat
by rik booth
Van Helsing looks like it'll kick some serious ass, and hopefully Underworld will too...hell, I'll see it because of Miss Beckinsale anyhow. ;)
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...how fondly i remember seeing her for the fist time; i was on a school English trip to see her in Much Ado About Nothing, good movie, wow, she is a lahvley laydee. She was apprently fucking the director, Len Wiseman, on set, while her husband, Michael Sheen(??) was doing God knows what. he in it too, playing a werewolf. How in under blue fuck could he not see the director dogging his gorgeous wife right under his nose? Nasty. The husband is now yesterday's news. Poor bastard.
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...nowadays it seems. My comic has been in the works for about 6 months. I hope to have the first issue out by San Diego...
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What I was saying was that DiDi Conn was never in Moonlighting. The fantastic rhyming Miss Agnes Dipesto was played by Allyce Beasley. DiDi was however, in Grease (1 and 2), and some (I'm sure) craptastic movie based on the Debby Boone song "You Light Up My Life". But, I am amused by how Moonlighting worked it's way into a talkback about Werewolves and Vampires. "Lost Boys" made me want to sleep all day and party all night, but "Near Dark" just might be one of the greatest vampire movies of all time. *********************Jesse - "Let's just say I fought for the South....We lost." - Classic stuff!***************** And Lance Henriksen is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on..........no, you know what? He really isn't.
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You're right, Buffy plays fast and loose with the rules sometimes, but it's mythos is rooted in the classics. Well, the Initiative brought in a scientific element, but it was kinda' lame. But actually, Buffy is really about growing up different in a world that wants everyone to be the same, it just wraps real life in a fantastical situation, and manages to still handle it in the most realistic way on television. ....................And don't you guys think if you lived a few hundred years, you might get around to studying some martial arts at some point, whether you travel to the Orient, or just dropped by the Cobra Kai in the '80s......
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Apr 08, 2003 4:53:35 PM CDT
I really liked this movie, but then again Werewolves are my favo
by zenchaos
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Apr 08, 2003 4:53:46 PM CDT
I really liked this movie, but then again Werewolves are my favo
by zenchaos
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I mean Vampires and Werewolves battling it out doesn't interest you anymore. Or have you all grown as cynical as the anti-war protesters? Oh and why DNA? Because most people believe in science these days, instead of supernatural boogeymen. Besides it makes things like Vampires and Werewolves seem like they could actually happen, outside of a fanboy's wet dream. I say this sounds awesome until proven otherwise.
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I mean Vampires and Werewolves battling it out doesn't interest you anymore. Or have you all grown as cynical as the anti-war protesters? Oh and why DNA? Because most people believe in science these days, instead of supernatural boogeymen. Besides it makes things like Vampires and Werewolves seem like they could actually happen, outside of a fanboy's wet dream. I say this sounds awesome until proven otherwise.
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Apr 08, 2003 5:20:02 PM CDT
I've said it before and I'll say it again.... the concept alone
by psyclops
You can talk trash about the film all you want (and I'm sure there will be lots of that going on prior to its release) but I'll still be the first person in line to see this thing. Vampires versus Werewolves... that's all that needed to be said.
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Haven't you figured that out yet? BTW, I don't think tossing around DNA and pseudo-science makes something more plausible at all--it's just more stomachable to people who don't like mysticism in their fantasy. Regardless, I think this thing looks fun enough just because of the premise(as others are saying), but I think that DNA stuff was just added to be different from Stoker, Rice, Hammer, Whedon and all. More power to 'em, but alone it doesn't contribute much in my opinion. Mystery/magic is more fun to me. ******* I still think that one sheet could have been much cooler.
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there appears to be some nice images from this flick on the IMDB site. http://www.imdb.com/PGallery?Beckinsale,%20Kate&source=ss&skip=24
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Does Ricardo Montalban play a vampire in this flick? That would be sweet.
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Apr 08, 2003 7:00:33 PM CDT
'you light up my life' as bad as 'that thing you do'
by john cocktoasten
what a piece of crap that movie was. i swear if i ever hear that song again, i'm going to stab somebody
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Yes, indeedy, this sounds awful. Right down to the previously "proper" starlet (Kate Beckinsdale)letting her inner slut shine during filming. This sounds like it could be an all-time stinker! And yet....I may go see it.
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I have no idea whether the film's storyline will be any good, but I must admit to being intrigued by the concept of werewolves battling vampires. I think I can trace this back to my early days of collecting comic books when I stumbled across an issue of WEREWOLF BY NIGHT that featured a battle with Dracula (who was appearing in his own mag, TOMB OF DRACULA... back in the days when Marvel Comics were publishing a variety of different genres). Also, there are the classic Universal films/monsters as well which had a HUGE impact on my childhood (my walls were literally covered with Monster Magazine pin-ups). Anyway, I am greatly looking forward to this apparent resurgence of interest by film studios in producing "monster" flicks - with VAN HELSING topping my list. By the way, I even enjoyed THE MONSTER SQUAD to some degree (for what it was worth).
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I never said that Buffy was perpetrating the the business of scientific vampirism. At that point, I was bitching about Kung Fu vampires. Two separate bitches in one post. I should have separated the stream-of-consciousness a little better. Mind you, I still don't like Buffy, but at least they're not doing the DNA/disease thing.
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when they called it "A League of Their Own"
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A Vampire: The Masquerade and Werewolf: The Apocylypse LARP was filmed. Either that, or the creaters of that movie didn't get the licencing for said games... Some of that plot sounded scaringly familiar to me... Yeah I'm a gamer, TRY AND CATCH ME, BIIAATTCCHH!!!
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This actually looks pretty cool...
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Kate Beckinsdale is a FOX. Especially since she got that boob job. Jesssssus. I
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Nyuk nyuk nyuk!
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but 28 DAYS LATER sure doesn't!
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...Just What the Fuck is Liquid Silver?? or do you mean Molten Silver? What is there, a furnace in the gun to keep these bullets at the right Temerature???
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...Just What the Fuck is Liquid Silver?? or do you mean Molten Silver? What is there, a furnace in the gun to keep these bullets at the right Temperature???
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can't say how 'cos it'd put lives at stake, but i have seen it and it is very cool... just to let you know pedantic one, the liquid silver was silver nitrate and even the bullets it was in looked damn cool... i did love the film though and can't wait to see it properly once it is finished... the fight scenes rock and the whole look of the film is fantastic, so don't worry, it will rock...
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This is true according to Variety.com and Nicolas Cage will be Johnny Blaze.
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It seems to me maybe people need to stop comparing this damn movie to past Vamp and Were films and anything else it's been compared to and just look at it for what it is. I mean come on people if we pick apart every new movie all we'll find is rehashes and rip-offs of every other movie we've ever seen. I for one am going to reserve my judgment for when I see the movie. From the look of the trailer I am mildly interested and hoping for the best. (crosses fingers)
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