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AICN EXCLUSIVE: PUNISHER Casting Confirmed!!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
So I’m out with Harry Lime today, takin’ care of binness, and as we’re walking out of a building, notes in hand, who should come sauntering towards us, sunglasses and smile fixed firmly in place? None other than Marvel’s preposterously, permanently happy head cheese, Avi Arad.
I ask what Avi’s there for, and he starts pointing at different parts of the building and listing off all the projects in development in all the different offices. We talk a little bit about THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, which is now shooting, and which Avi says has a “much, much better script” than the first film. He starts to describe a scene involving Doc Ock, then catches himself. “I can’t. I can’t tell you about it. But you’ll know when you see it... it’s one of the greatest scenes in anything we’ve done.” He tells me how hard Alfred Molina is working to master the arms, and describes one take where Molina, fresh from a Broadway run in FIDDLER ON THE ROOF, actually broke into a li’l bit of “If I Were A Rich Man” with a full set of cybertronic arms moving in tandem to Tevye.
By that point, Kevin Feige, Avi’s second-in-command, had joined us, and the two of them went over a few quick points. One of the things they said is that they just closed the deal on THE PUNISHER, meaning it’s now official. We’ve got a Frank Castle, and it turns out AICN called it first, way back on January 12th. Marvel must love BOOGIE NIGHTS, because they put Molina in SPIDER-MAN, and they’re putting Thomas Jane in the Punisher’s suit. We joked with Avi that all he needed to do now was find a great bad guy role for Burt Reynolds.
He gave Kevin a look and murmured something about “Of course... we didn’t even think of Burt,” and then realizing that we were still standing there listening, they hurried off to their meeting, giddy with glee at all the stuff they’re up to, leaving Lime and I to our own devices.
"Moriarty" out.
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First, you sonsofbeetches! and who the f*ck is Thomas Jane?
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Thomas Jane, you ignoramous first poster, is the hero in Deep Blue Sea, which makes up for his dire performance in the dire The Sweetest Thing. He is currently lighting up screens as one of the quartet in Dreamcatcher if memory serves, so don't post first AND ask silly questions.
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Ooh. That hurts. I think I'll never post on aintitcool again. The people here are so mean. I just can't take it. gasp. sob. choke. Just kidding, Heleno, can't a dude have a little fun? But you're right, Thomas Jane was in Deep Blue Sea, and now he's the Punisher, I wonder how he'll do.
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You did head your post "first", therefore all subsequent remarks are fair game. Thems the rules. But I do apologise most sincerely if you were hurt by my remarks, which were proferred in a spirit of eduction.
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Good. Cause the first one sux donkey balls. And Thomas Jane as Punisher is ok in my book. Watched "thursday" yesterday ... it's prolly not a high point in Jane's career, but it was fun.
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hehehe, fair enough. it was just too hard to resist. don't worry, I didn't take it personally. but to the rest, bring it on! hahaha. this should be fun.
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Apr 03, 2003 5:40:09 AM CST
There should be a climatic shark battle between Frank Castle and
by pacinohatersgoho
Then they should have Punisher's love interest, who will be played by Kate Winslet (swimming nude in the shark tank of course), break out her hit single, "What if" to bait the shark and consequently sacrifice herself for no apparent reason. Then Frank Castle's token black sidekick will gouge the shark's eye with a big cross. If the shark had a CGI moustache and chest hair you can have Burt Reynolds do the voice, and possibly duet with Kate Winslet before eating her. Sounds like a winner.
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Describing which things suck Donkey Balls is MY JOB you ratbastard fink :)
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This will suck Donkey Balls, just like Dreamcatcher. And NEVER EVER EVER use the word "Dire" more then once in ANY post :)
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The Punisher is a character who has hair.
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I'm sorry to disagree, but the sweetest thing absolutely merits two Dires. I can't believe that you've seen it if you think otherwise.
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Should be cast as Tony Starks, In Ironman!!
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He'd better bulk up and buy every copy of "The Sweetest Thing" and burn them!
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Discuss
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Sorry, I stand up when I pee, and don't sing in the shower.. so I'm not likely to ever see a movie with the word 'Sweet' in it unless its got 3 "X's" in its rateing rectangle :)
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Provided they make the long rumored "Watchmen" movie.
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Liv Tyler's married!!!! She tied the knot on March 25th. I am now going to cry. Then i'll listen to the Album of the Year (In my eyes at least) The White Stripes' Elephant!!!!!!!!!
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Fair enough. Although I thought the movie's ads were directed at men, what with the scene where hoards of women are feeling Christina Applegates' breasts. Call me crazy, but I don't think that was aimed at yer average chick-flick watcher.
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Lesbian boob fondling?? Um.. ok.. maybe I was a bit hasty in dismissing it's potential.. its my responsibility as a sexist, male chauvinist to preuse this information you have given me, to better evaluate this films merits.
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Makes about as much sense as him playing the Thing in the FF movie. What a little pussy. I was hoping for Kurt Russell. Boo Hoo Hoo . . .
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This'll probably be a mob-film!
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What are you on about KID? While I'm sorry for your loss, I'm not at all sure what Liv Tyler has to do with a Punisher movie.
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...and I still don't know who he is. Somebody tell me what he did in Boogie Nights and/or Magnolia, please. I can't remember from the names of his characters.
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Apr 03, 2003 9:12:05 AM CST
There's just one director that would be a perfect fit for this m
by anyaormsby
Walter Hill. His no nonsense, straight to the point style of action storytelling is what the Punisher is all about. Check out Undisputed, Trespass, and Last Man Standing and you'll know what I'm talking about. Harry Knowles as Micro!
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I hope he keeps the porno mustache for Frank Castle. That would rock the block.
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http://us.imdb.com/Name?Jane,+Thomas
Sheesh, you'd think you AICN nutballs would be glad they're casting someone who's not A-list for this thing, but when they don't, you go on about, "who the hell is this guy?" Can't win for losing, I swear. -
What's this Christina Applegate lesbian movie? More importantly, WHERE CAN I SEE IT?
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I'm afraid I just don't get this casting. Jane has a somewhat charismatic, but also somewhat milquetoast, screen presence. I can't see him pulling off the intensity needed to play the Punisher effectively. If you don't know much about the character, outside of that fucking horrendous Dolph Lundgen movie, check out Garth Ennis's initial run on the comic. It's classic. And, just for the record, Deep Blue sea is one of the worst fucking movies ever made. Seriously, some one should put a bullet in Renny Harlin's brain pan. I'm not one to advocate violence, but this guy really needs to go. How the fuck does someone like him continue to work? Hollywood will never cease to amaze me.
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Just check out that movie on IMDB, looks kinda lame. And this Thomas Jane looks like a geek as well. Oh well, Hooray for Punisher.
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........this could........well suck pretty fucking bad. It could also put all Marvel films back into the Roger Corman hellhole that they were in before "Blade". On the other hand if they take Garth Ennis' divine "Welcome Back, Frank" line and stick to it, it'll be one of the greatest flicks ever. Of course the chances of that happening are about as good as the turds that be letting Garth Ennis write the script for "Preacher" and kicking Rachel "I directed Tank Girl and will felch you for another gig" Talahay (Did I spell that right? God I hope not.) and James Marden right the fuck out of the flick. (Just because he was OKAY as Cyclops doesn't make him right for this and for the record, he will suck ass as JC.) On the third hand, they'll probably make this a PG-13 Punisher and he'll probably take down only the "Really, really bad guys" and extensively use a tazer. On the fourth hand, with everyone in America so fond of death, war and destruction right now, it could be the most violent film ever made. On the fifth hand, I smell a "Daredevil" coming on and don't kid yourself, that movie was prime shit. And stop talking about "Watchmen" like it's going to get made, it will NEVER HAPPEN. And that's a good thing, because anyone who tries to make that book into a movie is bound to fuck it into something that will embarrass everyone. Not only that, what made that book work was the ending and I'm quite sure no one thinks blowing up New York for the greater good will go down all that well. (Although, if New York were vaporized tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me too much, but apparently I'm in the minority.)
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Apr 03, 2003 10:10:23 AM CST
I don't know why, but I wanted Vin Diesel get the role of Punish
by steal_dragon
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Punisher is too dark for mass consumption. People think DD was dark. DD was nothing compated to the current Punisher run.
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Listen, I loved Garth's Preacher and Hellblazer as much as the next guy, but his take on Punisher was weak. It was entertaining and all, but hardly worth adapting. If they adapt any story, it should be Chuck Dixon's first story arc from "Punisher: War Zone". It came out around 1992. That was the story that redifined Frank Castle. That was the story that took him from being a white booted and gloved harmless action character, and turned him into a grim, ruthless vigilante. Chuck Dixon made the template Garth Ennis followed. Give the man his props.
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I don't see how they can do this movie for a mainstream audience. If they pull some shit with the Punisher using stun guns and tranq darts it will, well, it won't be the Punisher. If they stay true to the source material it may not sell to a mainstream audience. Frank Castle (The Punisher) isn't really a hero. He's kind of psycho, and his only redeeming quality is that he kills people he considers guilty, a LOT. Jane just doesn't do it for me. They should have cast Vinnie Jones. I agree with the post about the Watchmen. It should never be made into a movie or sequelized. It would be impossible to properly capture that comic in a film.
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I haven't ever read the CHuck Dixon storyline (I might have to check that out) but I think the Ennis version was clever and readily adaptable to the big screen. At least initially, It has become kind of repetitive and boring now. I guess there isn't really much you could do with the character. He is what he is. You could always kill him and then put him in the service of the lord as a kind of avenging angel, oh wait...
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would u toot ur own horn? like ten sites didn't have that "scoop" first?
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So don't even whisper his name and anyone from the Marvelverse in the same sentence. As for the Applegate lesbian scenes, I may have overstated it, because she is fully dressed at the time. And I don't want to encourage anyone to see The Sweetest Thing, cause no-one deserves that. well, maybe Dubya.
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The Blade films are mainstream, and they're filled with carnage. It's not going to be like Robocop (or any of the bygone Verhoeven bloodfests), but it will be filled with the new brand of bloodless meta-violence; more flash and dazzle and film-speed tricks than actual brutatlity.
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Thomas Jane was also Mickey Mantle in the movie 61* ... pretty decent actor, though I am having a bit of trouble picturing him as Frank Castle
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For a TERRIBLE, and I mean TERRIBLE actor, he still seems to have done a good job convincing non football followers (ie Americans) of his acting talent. And incidentally, that Dubya crack was very naughty, there hasn't been a Gulf War flame war for a few days, you're just causing trouble aren't you?
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Jones isn't the world's greatest actor but "The Punisher" probably isn't bieng made for the Oscar crowd either. He has the badass vibe down pat. On second thought he probably isn't right for it, but neither is Thomas Jane. I liked 61* a lot, and I have no problem with him in general, but not as the Punisher. It would be a hard role to cast.
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is currently on Skinamax entitled "The Sweetest Thing" with Cameron Diaz. It's gotta be the worst fucking comedy to come out in a long time. I think they were trying to make a female "Dumb and Dumber" and failed miserably. The supposed faux-lezbo scene isn't even worth watching it for. Don't waste your time!
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Man, they should have cast Chris Meloni, that dude from Oz and one of those Law and Order spin-offs, in this. Guy looks just like the way Mike Zeck drew the Punisher. I don't know, him just going around and shooting criminals and mafiosos and shit - just doesn't seem like much of a movie.
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The thing is, when Blade came out nobody but us geeks knew it was based on a Marvel comic character. It wasn't hyped as a comic-book film. Punisher will probably be marketed as a comic to film project (because that's a major marketing tool these days), making the studios want to tone it down for a younger audience. You know, because it's from a comic book and comics are just for kids, right? If they don't acknowledge the comic in the marketing, that can free the creators to make a faithfully violent movie. Let's hope.
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Ben Affleck is a joke.
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at the beginning there was third. then baby hematoma began to surge through taco shell utopia. god he sang to her only nostril of fury. behold the birth of eleven times the pleasure of a watch clock tingle machine.Tom Jane ladyfingers indeed!
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Say what you will, but Ennis gave us one classic moment. When the Punisher chopped the arms and legs off of the old mob lady, Ma Gnocchi, and left her just a head and torso (sexy tomboy beanpole torso?), I laughed for days. I'd pay 8 bucks to see THAT on the big screen, Thomas Jane or no Thomas Jane. But what do I know, I liked The Sweetest Thing...
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The original Punisher was PERFECT! sk
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There's just something very wrong with a blonde Punisher. Thomas Jane is a good actor. I've enjoyed him in everything from "Boogie Nights" to "The Velocity of Gary" and he can do a good job, I guess, with Frank Castle ... but there's a real disconnect with a blond, curly haired Punisher. It's SO WRONG. I hope they die his hair black and close-crop/straighten it. Hope they use Garth Ennis' version of the Punisher for the script. It's a lot of fun.
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Apr 03, 2003 12:02:03 PM CST
Thomas Jane or Aaron Eckhart, I get them confused, But Seriously
by the founder
Thomas Jane in the lead role??? I don't have a problem with him, although i wouldn't mind another choice, but this movie needs star power, like Brad Pitt or Matt Damon or someone to pull in the audience, because the only way this puppy will make money is if the budget is low, well since it's Punisher i don't see a need for a large budget, heck 25-40 million topps is enough. At any rate with Jane in the lead, this movie better have an R-rating, and be violent as h.el.l, and have a good known villian, like Sam Jackson or some popular supporting a list actor.
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Apr 03, 2003 1:36:50 PM CST
Thomas Jane sounds like a wimp, but I'll wait till I see the mov
by thematarife
Although I still think Michael Masden or Adam Baldwin would be a lot better.
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Go fuck yourself. I won't waste my time tearing apart your little speech, way too easy. You've showed just how stupid you are by your comments. You don't like what's happening? Move to Canada with the rest of the whinners...
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If your guilty, your dead, brother!
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This was Dolph's best performance after SHOWDOWN IN LITTLE TOKYO and MAXIMUM POTENTIAL. If the original PUNISHER movie had been made for more than -- I don't know -- ten million dollars it could have been *great*. The product they put out in '89 was only *very good*. Pretty lame of them to make such a half-assed effort the first time around. Dolph Lundgren is *probably* available to reprise his role -- but I wouldn't bring back Louis Gossett, Jr. or let Boaz Yakin write it this time.
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If they decide to go the Frank Castle is a psycho route I think he could pull it off. He was
fru-its of the de-veel evil in Original Sin with Antonio "How do you say? Ah yes" Banderas and Angelina Jolie. I am sure he can bulk up with the use of a personal trainer, and when I say personal trainer I mean unregulated steroid and growth hormone use. Hell, it may even turn his hair black and cause him to develop scar tissue in the shape of a skull on his chest.
Wouldn't that be sassy?
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This is an imposter, a Fett double if you will. Though he whiny and selfrighteous like the real Fett, this is definitely a fake. Kinda funny, had me going for a minute... but you can't fool me beotch.
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Sickboy, that was awesome. You said everything I was just too pissed to say. Let me just add, Pappa Fett, not able to meet sickboy down in Hollywood? Well, I stationed up here at Travis AFB in NorCal, and also extend an offer to say hi. Me and some friends of mine would like to express how we feel about your little speech. Of course you'll have to ask your mommies permission first, and leave her nice comfy basement...
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... I love being a turtle. Oh yes, and: MICHAEL MOORE as MICROCHIP!!!
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http://us.imdb.com/Name?Jane,+Thomas ........ does THIS guy look like a PUNISHER to you? NO! C'mon! This sucks! I mean, look: When Keaton was cast as Batman, I had doubts, I was surprised. Tobey as Spidey? I didn't think so, I was wrong. But Tom Jane as Punisher? HELL NO! This one CANNOT be good in the end at all. Please, please,please find someone else! Hell, Brad Pitt could do Punisher better than Thomas (Deep Blue Sea) Jane!
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Apr 03, 2003 3:16:19 PM CST
Ray Liotta? Oh, yeah...he would have made a great Punisher.
by anyaormsby
Oh well. This will be lame, anyway. The official word is that they're calling it a Summer event for 2004. That can only mean a PG-13 rating for this sucker. The movie will probably play out like the A-Team, a whole lot of shooting, but nobody gets killed.
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They (or in this case, she) are heroes because they are over there, doing what needs to be done. Of course you wouldn't know about that. That 19 year old female is more a man than you EVER will be. Remember the following:
We did not invade Kuwait.
We do not use chemical mustard gas weapons on Kurdish Civilians.
We do not pay suicide bombers $18,000 to the families of such.
We do not pour acid on people when we interrogate them.
We do not hire men to rape and torture.
We are not the ones whom cannot account for 10,000 liters of anthrax.
We do not put our military tanks next to schools and hospitals.
We are not a threat to our neighbors.
We are not the ones who have ties to people who flew commercial aircraft into 2 110 story buildings.
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My sweety hath diskapeered on me :( That beautifull pout.. those doe eyes, the soft skin.. the increadible body.. [whine]
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You keep whinning about our hitting churches, schools, ect. Well, as has been proven again and again in the past weeks, the Iraqis are using those facilities as command posts and ammo dumps. That makes them legal targets. I suppose you think it's neato that they are using human shields too, and fucking keen they are killing POW's. What an ass...
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Well, if this is his way of having fun, it's in VERY poor taste. Many of us have friends, relatives, and coworkers over there right now.
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Man Fett, you are a riot! I had no idea you were such a funny guy. Maybe after all that they can all sit around a fire and sing songs? You are so out there I know there's no way you can be serious. Bad taste, yeah, but you can't be serious about all this....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laugh, I needed it.
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I am glad that he has this role. I'm not really in to The Punisher, but I am interested to see it now. Boogie Nights is one of my favorite movies of all-time, and the Todd Parker character is hilarious. I have probably watched Boogie Nights at least 15 times, and I saw Deep Blue Sea in the theater, but until Harry just pointed it out, I didn't even have a clue that Thomas Jane was in both. He is TOTALLY different. Hopefully he brings something interesting to The Punisher. This casting makes me think of what might have been with Superman. I know a lot of you didn't like the idea of Jude Law in the part, but he definately would have disappeared in the role, and made it fascinating. The fact that he is physically different from we know in the Superman comics would have been a plus. We have the perfect iconic Superman already. I watched all four last week, and NOBODY will ever do it better than Christopher Reeve did. So they should do it a bit different. It's too bad we won't get to see what Jude Law would have brought to the role. But Thomas Jane will be a chameleon, and we truly will see Frank Castle come to life.
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Sarcasm, I love it.
After scanning over MANY of the posts on this particular topic made by Fett. I have reached the conclusion that 1) Fett is no more than 13 years old that tries to be older by spouting out random curses 2)Has no idea at all what exactly is going on in IRAQ..ie hardly any civilians at all harmed and the ones that were have been intentionally placed in harms way by Saddam. 3)Doesn't know the difference between a POW held by the U.S. and a POW held by IRAQ. There's a really big difference in case you couldn't tell. The ones the U.S. hold are still alive. Is the PFC from WV a hero. Yes. She mowed down a few of those sons of bitches before they could get to her. Emptied her clip into enemy combatants. There is no doubt she wouldn't be alive much longer if she stayed in the "hospital". You know, the one with the torture chamber so conveniantly placed nearby. My question is, why is it so hard to support your country, and your leader's decisions? I am on my way to basic training in exactly two weeks. You better believe I am ready to go over there and kick some ass in the name of the United States of America. We are saving a nation from a tyrant. We are saving the women and children that you, Fett, claim we are going over and killing with a bloodthirst. It's just a shame that Freedom of Speech refers to children like you. -
Dammit. That anti-american sentiment just got me so irritated I forgot why I was posting in the first place. The Punisher flick, it has potential, but we must see the skull. We also need the cool Frank Castle. The one that isn't afraid to kill and the one that needs an R rating because he likes to use naughty language. And the bad guys do too. Dark, evil, awesome.
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Now if they cast Burt Reynolds in a movie, will you write an article telling us how you deserve an exec producer credit?
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But.... but... but... [sob] .. I just wanna know what happened to my sweety.. that pretty little blonde gal who was one of the new 'Dell Gang', but just dissapeared. :( **** Im worried Harry got hungry and ate her with some pickle relish.
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No.. your thinking of that guy who did the rave review for Swept Away here on these hallowed web-pages.. you know.. the one who resembled a boston fern?
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Women are not interested in uncircumcised members. Unless they're unconscious or dead, or males in drag.
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Remember? He was in that HBO Billy Crystal flick about the Mantle/Maris deal.
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My dream casting choice for Punisher would have been...drumroll, please...Sam Rockwell. I have said this repeatedly on these boards and no one seems to echo the sentiment. I'm not some poseur who thinks he's quirky and must be in everything, I really do think that he would have done a terrific job with the character. If they slicked back his hair, made him bulk up, and gave him a sickly/weary-looking complexion, he would have looked exactly as I'd imagined as well. I was thinking this long before Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, so it's not powers of association at work here, at least not on a superficial level. When I was watching him as Wild Bill in The Green Mile, I thought that he would make a great Punisher. Maybe it's just me. Can nobody even remotely see it? Oh, well, it's not gonna happen now anyways. I don't begrudge Thomas Jane the role, I think he's a competent actor with charisma and he'll certainly be able to fit the physical requirements that Avi Arad and any studio financing an action movie look for, but I'd always imagined Punisher's intimidation coming not from his physicality, but a subtle sort of menace that his presence instills. I just think Rockwell had the chops and, in my opinion, the look to play Punisher. Ah, but this whole post has been a waste of time, hasn't it? Damn you, Avi Arad! Next time you meet up with uber-pal Harry Knowles, I expect you to bear happier tidings. And Largo, Jr.: you sound like a very sexually frustrated man.
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It used to be fun to read these Talkbacks. But these days its just a fucking pathetic pit of despair. Wait until the movie comes out, assholes. Then judge it for what it is. The fact that somebody actually bitches about this casting and then suggests the diminutive, nerdy Sam Rockwell as the Punisher says it all.
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You're too good for us? Is that what you're saying? You can't stand us "pathetic" talkbackers? Considering my post had nothing to do with what you seem to think it did, maybe that's your problem.
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That's because you are a jackass.
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better be rated 'R'
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I've been thinking the same thing about that Dell chick ever since I first saw her on the commerical. Those dimples and pursed little lips! I think she's two timin with that pretty boy and that black dude though..they should make a commerical out of that!
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Good choice. Thomas Jane impressed me in the so-goofy but fun "Deep Blue Sea." I also remember him from "Boogie Nights" as Marky Mark's druggie pal who tried to kill Doc Ock Albert Molina. Jane was the best thing about "DreamCatcher"- anybody else think Morgan Freeman's eyebrows had a life of their own? Love Morgan, but in "DreamCatcher" he looked like the black version of the JuiceMan from the late night infomercials! Anyhoo, I hope they get a writer and director who will go no-holds barred rated R Punisher! Please down water down Frank Castle and make him likeable with stupid quips like Arnold from the 80's! I take it Frank will be a Gulf War I vet, Balkan War Vet or Afghan vet rather than a Vietnam vet, in fact by the time this film starts production, Gulf War II will be over so Frank could be recently discharged from Marine Special Ops. I hope the hand-to-hand combat will use a form of Filipino Kali(effectively showcased in "The Hunted") Okinawan Shorin Ryu, Kenpo or Korean Hapkido- arts that are realistic and combat effective- and not some high-wire Kung-Fu bullshite!! The Punisher is not a high-flying martial artist like DD and Batman but a gritty fighter who doesn't waste time with fancy moves and will use a gun or a knife to take advantage...favorite moment from Punisher comic was when he took on a Thai fighter who was kicking his ass and Frank's thought bubbles were "no way I can beat this guy..." so he rolled to get his gun and shot him!!! I hope the film will show the Punisher in all his mean but win-at-all-cost persona!
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the 13-inche prosthetic penis from "Boogie Nights"
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Hmm, seems that even though no-one dealt directly with my little Dubya remark, it did spark something. On every chat here since. Oooops.
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What's the deal with hiring these blonde himbos to play the Punisher? Frank Castle is DARK, and I don't mean Dark With A Bad Dye-Job. Dolph Lundgren looked like a dick in the original movie because of his dyed hair and STUPID painted on beard. I agree with those who would have preferred Ray Liotta (those eyes-- THAT is a guy who could scare the carp out of you just by staring at you) or Chris Meloni to play the big guy. I think Jane is a good actor and I hope he will pull it off, but PLEASE, when you darken his hair (and you know they will - a blonde Punisher would outrage the fans and burn a lot of the goodwill Marvel is getting right now), make a better job of it then you did with Affleck's hair in Daredevil. I know he was blind but did he have to look like he cut and dyed his own noggin as well? And burt Reynolds sho9uld not be Tony Stark, or Nick Fury (Sam Jackson as Ultimate Fury - YEAH!) or anyone else in the Marvel Movie Universe. He should only be in this if he's a mob boss who gets gutted by FC five minutes into the movie. And keep the skull, and NO supervillains! The big question is whether they will try to 'humanise' Castle and make him sympathetic like the 80's flick, or if they will go with the stone-cold bastard of the Garth Ennis era. If they do 'Welcome Back, Frank', they HAVE to do the shootout in Central Park Zoo. Especially the part where Castle dangles a mobster in a tank of pirahna (you don't see that at the flicks everyday).
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Not only do you slag off my countryman Colin, but you also imply that women don't like movies about unstoppable killing machines? Go back to your basement when your stereotypes might stand up because the only woman you meet is your mother. Seriously, the level of misogyny from some fanboys is astonishing.
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He's got a definite charisma and screen presence, but does he do another character other than "the cocky guy?" Seriously, in every one of his movies thus far he has played the same smarmy, self-assured character; looks like Phone Booth will be more of the same.
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Someone a few days ago on another TB mentioned that Colin was discovered on Broadway by Kevin Spacey, then give his big break(s) by Joel Schumacher. Not to cast aspersions, but...
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Sure, he plays cocky a lot. That's not his fault, the poor lamb, he just got typecast. And in any case, the boy does have a heck of a lot to be cocky about. Also, earthy, he was discovered onstage in London as far as I heard, which makes a slight difference, and he was already established in Ballykissangel, that mecca of pre-packaged Hollywood heartthrobdom...or not. In fact, if memory serves, and admittedly I rarely watched it, he was kinda shy in BallyK wasn't he? Besides which, he may start off cocky in Phone Booth and Tigerland, but the boy can act, as witnessed throughout both films as his character progresses. So don't hate him cause he's beautiful.
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I don't give a shit where, or who, discovered him. I'm just waiting for him to do something different. As I said before, I think he has screen presence and some charsima, which people often confuse with good acting, but he still seems to be playing the same role over and over. I'm not saying he isn't a good actor, he may very well turn out to be, I'm just saying he hasn't had a role that has proven it to me yet. On to the Punisher. I think the actor you cast should have an urbaness about him. There is something about actors from New York, Chicago, Jersey, that gives them a certain attitude or hardness. They carry it with them everywhere. Think of Christopher Walken vs,, say, Matthew McConnehey (I butchered his name). MM is fine in his own right, but I would never believe he is an urban avenger from the streets of Gotham. Growing up in the city just leaves it's mark on you. It's unavoidable and unmistakable. I like Thomas Jane, he is talented, but to me he suffers from the same thing.
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OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE: Thomas Jane is The Punisher
Friday, April 4, 2003 7:10 CST
Artisan Entertainment has just officially announced that Thomas Jane will play The Punisher:
Thomas Jane is "The Punisher"
Artisan Pictures And Marvel Studios Tap Actor To Play Title Role In Feature Film Production Based On One Of Marvel's Best Selling Comic Book Series
LOS ANGELES--April 4, 2003-- Written And Directed By Jonathan Hensleigh, The Production Is Currently Casting Other Roles And Will Begin Production in July Of 2003 And Arrive In Theatres During Summer 2004
Thomas Jane is "The Punisher!" Artisan Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today that Thomas Jane has been cast in the title role of "The Punisher," the feature film production of Marvel Comics' immensely popular comic book series of the same name.
The film is being produced by Marvel Studios' CEO Avi Arad ("Spider-Man," "X-Men," "Daredevil," "The Hulk") and producer Gale Anne Hurd ("The Hulk," "Aliens," "The Terminator") with renowned screenwriter Jonathan Hensleigh writing and directing. With the project's other major roles currently being cast, "The Punisher" will commence principal photography in early July 2003 and the event film will arrive in theatres during the summer of 2004. Artisan Pictures President of Production, Richard Saperstein and Marvel's Arad made the announcement.
"The Punisher" rises out of the ongoing Artisan and Marvel joint venture designed to develop, produce and distribute Marvel character based programming across all media with profits generated from each project shared equally after distribution fees are incurred. In addition to "The Punisher," the two entities are in active development on the big screen adaptation of the venerable character, "Iron Fist."
"The Punisher" tells the story of FBI undercover agent, Frank Castle, who until now has beat considerable odds. A former Special Forces operative, he is finally moving out of the field and into a desk job -- and a normal life with his wife and son. Then Castle's world is shaken to its core by a nightmare he has longed feared: his family is executed as a repercussion from his final undercover assignment. With unparalleled intensity, ferocious intelligence and fearless actions, Castle seeks to punish the murderers -- and finds the one thing he least expected: redemption.
Marvel Comics' "The Punisher" made his first appearance over 25 years ago as a supporting character. The hero proved so popular with readers that he could not be contained in a peripheral role and by the 1990's he was starring in as many as three titles a month. In 2000, "The Punisher" reemerged as one of Marvel Comics' highest selling solo books and remains a top seller for the Company.
Commented Marvel Studios' Arad, "Although Frank Castle is a tough-as-nails vigilante, he is, at his very core, an extremely tortured soul, a victim of survivor's guilt. Thomas Jane, being a character actor, is going to have all the dimension necessary to bring to life the depth of a character who is both the hero and the victim with the physicality of a Super Hero -
Why couldn't they have gone and got Jason Patrick, or Ray Liotta (two of the grittiest, grimmest son-of-a-bitch actors of our time) for "The Punisher". I mean Ray Liotta looks like "The Punisher"! All he has to do is lose a little weight and *BOOM!* there's your Punisher.
Thomas Jane is was "o.k" in "DEEP BLUE SEA" and he's been mediocre in his other movies, but do you really think this guy can play "The Punisher"? I dunno maybe Marky Mark will come in and have another sex scene with Heather Graham to save the flick. -
I was on his website today. I swear to God half of the shit he puts on there is him defending himself against shit on the net. I've never seen a successful filmmaker so concerned with what people think of him. Anyways, he was on there defending both JG and Giggly, or whatever the fuck that movie is called. I know B.Aff and J.low are your friends and all, but defending their piece of shit movie is only goinna buy you more criticism Kevie. I'm sure Jelly(?) is fucking awesome and that's why they've delayed it for 2 fucking years. They're just saving it for awards season.
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Or is it just that I have a big fat ass?
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Tourists aren't supposed to talk to the animals ;)
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from Artisan Pictures rep Richard Saperstein - "The movie is a throwback to the great righteous revenge movies of the 1970s like 'Walking Tall' and 'Dirty Harry'. Tom is a real actor who gives weight to what will be a gritty R-rated film. This is not some special effects movie with a guy running around in spandex".
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Man, I've never seen Boogie Nights so I looked up Thomas Jane on IMDB. This guy looks like a little fruit. WTF were they thinking. Dolph can't act his way out of a paper bag but he at least had the look to pull it off. He would've looked cooler in the Skull t-shirt thought. My pick would've been Stallone, yeah I know he costs too much but he makes a good cop, he'd good at blowing shit up and he was okay at being crazy in I See You.
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Yes!!!! That's it!!!! A cheap actor/singer that could kick ass, be scary crazy and look like the Punisher. You are a f---ing genious!! I should've thought of Henry Rollins! Hell, a couple of Rollins Band/ Black Flag tracks on the soundtrack would kick ass too!!!!
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Nothing against you personally, but if you're gonna snipe at people, which I think is fucked up in the first place, make sure you don't contradict yourself in the SAME FUCKING POST! In defense of Colin Farrel you told some guy that he spews stereotypes and then you promptly went on to say that he must live in his mom's basement and be a envy Colin's good looks. Then some guy who isn't blessed with the same library of films as you asks who Thomas Jane is. You then call him an "ignoramous" and spell ignoramus wrong! If that's not irony, I don't know what is. Sorry, I have nothing against you really, but when people get attacked for their opinions by other people for the wrong reasons and/or intentions it kind of pisses me off. And I do think that Farrel is a talented actor and don't think that he intentionally takes "cocky" roles, although I don't know if he has the range of personality that better ones out there display.
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I realize I just typed "be a envy Colin's good looks." I must of switched trains of thought mid-sentence. Whoops.
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It has also come to my attention that I just typed "must of" instead of "must have." I was thinking like people talk. Sheesh, talk about karma. If there is a God, he hates me.
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But talk about grammatical errors. Yeesh.
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