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INDIANA JONES and a total lack of Nazis will be coming to a theater someday!
Hey folks, Harry here... Well I tell ya what, I'm dying to get my hands on Frank Darabont's screenplay for INDIANA JONES AND (fill in the blanks)!!! Takes place in the 1950's huh... Ok, that's after Roswell... Could be during the RED SCARE... We've heard that Spielberg had scouts looking at Israel for a possible shooting location... Of course that could be false information. Let's see... we've had Shankara Stones, Lost Ark and Holy Grail. Maybe we will get the Golden Fleece... oh, that wouldn't be in Israel. Um, the one true cross? Can't wait to find out...
Frank Darabont, screenwriter of the upcoming fourth Indiana Jones movie, told SCI FI Wire that the sequel's 1950s setting requires different villains from those in previous installments, which were set in the 1930s. "Those pesky Nazis seem to have departed, which is a shame, because I like those pesky Nazis, because you can just squash them all over the place," Darabont said, with tongue in cheek.For the rest of the story, Check out SciFi.Com!!!
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This needed to be reported WHY? Talk about the most useless bit of empty hype Ive ever heard.... "A MOVIE! Coming SOMETIME! About SOMETHING!" So.. Indiana will be as old as Harrison REALLY is now huh? In his what.. 60's? im guessing hes not dragging around Sean Connery's ashes in the Ark of the Covannent by then :(, Seans the only reason I went to the last one.. this will suck donkey balls
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Looked awful at the Oscars.
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Maybe he unearths the mummy of Calista Flockhart and has to fight off the fast-food industry Nazis that keep trying to feed her.
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Pinko's, lefties, commies, skeletons and fossils (I'll leave you all to work out who's who)
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Mar 25, 2003 5:38:25 AM CST
Indiana Jones and the Search for the Golden Hip Replacement
by zod_is_back
I think thats the talk back winner for this thread if I do say so myself.
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I thought he looked better than for a long time at the Oscars. It really gave me hope for the next Indy installment. He also seemed to have a very good time and smiled more or less through the entire show; that Indy-grin.
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THIS IS NOT NEWS, I SAW THIS ON SCI-FI OVER A WEEK AGO, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE RUNNING THIS SITE. ARE YOU TRYING TO LOOK LIKE A LAUGHINGSTOCK. P.S.Indy without Nazis, whats the point.
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er, when they drink the cup at the end of IJ III... doesn't that make em both immortal?
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just looks tired. Everytime you see him on t.v., he looks tired. Everytime he speaks, he exudes exhaustion. The third film will not be interesting because none of them will have the balls to kill Indy, so almost any type of tension will be lost. What they should do is hire the guy that played Data from THE GOONIES and have him in this one, then make sure they kill him off, that way future generations will never have to worry about seeing that dick head in an Indy movie again. Oh yeah, and Spielberg's luck with sequels ran out with THE LOST WORLD.
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DARABONT'S FINALLY DOING 'THE MIST'!!!! Hell yeah!
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Mar 25, 2003 6:30:26 AM CST
Good thing the Nazis are gone, or else there would be a real-lif
by cooldan989
But seriously, I actually am pumped up for seeing this. I hope Harrison Ford and Spielberg don't let me down, and I'm sure they won't.
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Mar 25, 2003 6:35:05 AM CST
Maybe they should make "Indiana Jones And The War Against Terror
by mbaker
There's a big bunch of terrorists in the plane, brother!
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Really with a bit of makeup, a hair dye, the man will look in his early forties again.
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Look at Clint Eastwood or John Wayne. They could still kick ass. There's enough flicks out there filled with momma's boys. Reserve a few for the ones with mileage. It'll be great to see Indiana Jones after all these years. The fact they're going to deal with his age adds a another dimension to the character. Harrison has always been low key in interviews and public appearances. He's not the most comfortable in those situations. All that matters is what he does onscreen and I can't wait to see the return of Indy. It will be one FRIGGIN' GREAT day when we see the first images of the man himself back in action wearing that fedora. Too bad it'll be another year before they get rolling on this.
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I remember reading in an Aint-It-Cool posting Rick McCallum being asked about the new Indy summery, and he mentioned "look at the stars?" or something??? Can anyone else remember that? Indy fighting martians? Yeah, weve seen Nazis for 2 out of 3.
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Mar 25, 2003 7:01:29 AM CST
Raiders of the Lost ...erm...what was it again...damn, forgot my
by earthworm
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quote question: "er, when they drink the cup at the end of IJ III... doesn't that make em both immortal?" ********** Answer: Yes, the blood of christ (which looked suspiciously like Evian mineral water) that the Jones' imbibed made them immortal. However, they were only immortal if they stayed in the 'Holy Place (tm)' where they found the immortalizing mineral water. If they leave the place (which they did, in a shower of dust and caved-in rocks) then *poof* no more immortality. Poor them. ********** i am not inconceivable**********
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...Looked like "Mid-life-crisis-man". With that funny boufant hair and Trophy Missus half his age.
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Indiana Jones and the Philosopher's Stone! No, wait... Indiana Jones and the Prisoner of Azkaban! No...
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They do not get immortal at the end of IJ3. Remember the knight saying "but the grail cannot pass the great seal. That is the boundary, and the price of immortality". or something to that effect. So if they wanted to stay immortal, my guess is that they'd have to stay with the grail in the cave. Ahh well...who cares anyways.
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Oh well...goof thing I read the posts here. Someone alredy commented on that. Soooorry. :-)
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Another Indy in the works? Give It a rest. As much as I love the characters and the main man. Harrison is more mature to retiring age. I mean have anyone seen him at the Oscars? He could hardly speak. So sad. He (harrison )Gave us 2 on screen heroes ---Han Solo and Indy jones.
Hollywood snots noses have been talking to about Indy 4 for over a decade. No mOre Nazi to conquer would be daft storyline. Heading toward the next adventure in what '40-50-s.?Will he be immortal?Will he follow the plot in the Marvel Comic and Dark Horse Days?
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Let's hope Spielberg is not that PC when it comes to new Indy. If he was that would simply be horrible. But of course it would connect nicely to the theory about aliens as the bad guys. I mean...not a single human being would have to be killed. Just the green dudes...and hey...they're fake anyway.
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Israeli, American and Jewish Zionists. I'd compare Zionists to German Nazis because they share the same philosophy and ideology of Fascism, unfortunately - but you don't see that on U.S. corporate news because Israel is U.S. ally and U.S. sends billions in aids and provide military hardware and arsenal of weapons, including nuclear warheads. See this obscure New York Times letter signed by prominent Jews (among them is Albert Einstein) against Zionist Fascists at http://www.rense.com/general27/let.htm Beofre anyone scream anti-Semitic accusation, here are the links pertaining to conscientious Jews against Zionism: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/ http://www.netureikarta.org/ I have more resources but you'll have to read for yourself and see if you disagree Zionists are Fascists. Ariel Sharon is one of the current and most prominent Zionists and he commited plenty of crimes against humanity and don't get a slap in the wrist from the world conscience. The fact that U.S. doesn't seem concerned whenever Israel rejects every U.N. resolution passed against the Jewish country on human rights issues, unjust aggressions and occupation & land dispute borders on hypocrisy and double-standard in light of U.S.'s illegitimate invasion of Iraq for the sole motive of disarming Iraq for disregarding U.N. resolution (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0924-09.htm is an example) Peace to the world and no to evil Zionists!
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The israeli government hardly qualifies as my favorite individuals. Quite the opposite actually.
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The ageing Mr Ford appeared to be propping himself up with a walking stick (cane) - upon closer inspection it turned out to be Callista Flockhart...
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Time to fight American Nazis from the fifties! Watch as McCarthy's flesh melts in the pure light of the U.S. Constitution! Go Indy!
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http://www.geocities.com/purplefanbase/Chuffed-Online.html. On the Indy side, I don't want another supporting actress to disappear from view - Alison Doody, anyone?
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Ugh, on what planet? She should wear nothing but baggy wool turtlenecks sweaters -- the less we see of that beanpole body of hers, the better. C'mon, Indy, you can do MUCH better! Loved the Calista=Cane joke!
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Makes perfect sense.Big ending:Indy gets picked up by a UFO.He meets this little kid named Barry onboard.The mothership returns to Earth and drops off Indy and all the other Earthlings.As Dr.Jones disembarks,he passes some shlub named Roy Neary and says,"You're not gonna believe that place,pal".
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Of course, they'll probably bring back Short Round as a Kung Fu master to make up for Ford's declining agility. Just hope there's no wire work.
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featuring President Bush
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Been years since I saw it, but I seem to recall that as an old fart Indy had an eye-patch. Could have been glaucoma I suppose, heh. Call this one "Indiana Jones and the Vault of Cash."
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You alll seem to be missing the gist of what it entailed. The Grail only staves off the NEXT DAYS aging.. you must drink from the grail each day.. to hold off the aging of the next. In this manner you never age, effectivly immortal. When our Heros discover the restingplace of the Grail, and its keeper.. he openly admits he lost his faith, probably from depression at his isolation, and failed to drink from the cup many many times. The cup could not be taken beyong the seal, so he couldnt travel more then a days journey in order to drink from it each day. ******* esentially, immortality with a terrible price. Virtual Imnprisonment
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The timeline would actually work, and consider the idea or having Spielberg being able to go full circle with Close Encounters (but not ET please)-- larger universe etc. I know Roswell's been done to death (ID4 to Star Trek), but Indy could take it to an intelligent and action packed level. Maybe it's a race with an elite (cold war) Soviet team to control find technology. Roswell could just be one impact point. If you tie it in to CETK, he could be one of the abductees/willing passengers. He's been crawling around tombs long enough looking for relics, and should he just ultimately end up a relic of a college professor himself or propelled into a new mythos? Indy has always been about adventure, ancient mysticism and sci-fi, so it's not too great a leap to tie in Roswell.
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Rather than having him and the Soviets chasing for New technology, how about some alien technology found at an archeological dig. Hardly groundbreaking, but makes more sense as I think about it. It would still be pretty much a retread of Raiders tho, with CETK thrown in for good measure. Not as dumb as I first thought tho.
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...the more I think about this, it could work. I thought Indy + aliens would be gay at the start of this TB, but as long as you don't see the aliens, maybe just an alien artifact, and have comic book style 50's commies (as caricatured as Indy Nazi's) this could be fun. It'll probably have pretty much the same plot as Indy 1 & 3, but they're both good. Maybe, just maybe.
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Yep by the 1950s all the remaining Nazis were retired down to Florida (or Argentina)
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Mar 25, 2003 10:14:15 AM CST
Grimloch, could you tell me what tomorrows lotto number will be?
by earthworm
Just kidding. I agree about TTT, but FOTR gives me enough hope that PJ can pull it out of the bag for ROTK. My biggest problems with TTT was quite how badly the changes to the text affected the story. In FOTR he seemed to get it bang on, all changes IMNVHO worked for the better, but he miscalculated badly for the second one. ROTK is a stronger text anyway, and now all the new characters have been introduced he can get on with actually telling the story.
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To quote the immortal words of Homer Simpson, "you're a stupid head!!!" Cheers.
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I was hoping I would be able to come here and not be insulted with the same left-wing shit that you have to see elsewhere but I guess it is inevitable. While the majority of right-thinking people support the war I suppose there are the vocal minority out there that have to bother us with their plaintive lies trying to undermine our country's efforts.
Shame on you. LOL...to borrow from Michael Moore. Sheesh. What a tub of goo he is. Couldn't stand him at the Oscars.
Anyway, I can safely say neither George Bush nor Tony Blair have ever issued orders to personally have anybody killed or raped. Can you say the same thing about Saddam Hussein? No, of course not -- so frankly anything we do to his regime is fine and dandy in my book. They have already executed members of our forces so I don't see why we treat their guys so well.
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People, people! There's an easy way to involve Nazis in a late 50's/early 60's Indy movie. Just have him team up with a mysterious German scientist confined to a wheelchair who has to work with the American President and a Soviet General to prevent a Super Secret Doomsday Machine from setting off World War Three. "Uff course, ze whole point uff a Doomsday Machine iz lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell ze world!?"
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Dennis Quaid. That mother's perfect for the part. Hasn't anyone dug his Indy look in "Enemy Mine"?
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Mar 25, 2003 10:41:00 AM CST
There is actually someone named Fishy Cunt trying to talk some p
by california split
Only a simpering, rabid conservative could come up with a moniker so childishly vile and not realize it invalidates anything of import he might say. Take it to Yahoo, jackass.
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...The Guardian (note spelling) is not a "rag," it is a leftist broadsheet, but as on of the few British papers not controlled by Murdoch or displaying a rabid rightwing or excessively populist approach, it does deserve a hearing. Whether the article is true, I don't know, but the journalism of the paper itself is largely impeccable, despite (because of?) its editorial policy.
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Mar 25, 2003 10:51:19 AM CST
how 'bout the nazi's are recruited by American's for a future re
by theginger twit
ok ok... let the backlash begin
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I thought Ford was looking better at the Oscars then he has in years, and the hair completely rules.
Indy 4 is going to be godlike. Raiders is potentially my favourite film ever, I love Last Crusade too and like Temple of Doom.
I am looking forward to Jurassic Park 4 more in 2005 though. The idea of Neill and Goldblum back on screen together in a tense x-files like mainland adventure/thriller has me painfully excited. No Joe Johnston this time though :( -
Memorable talkbacks? In the annals of history, I'm sure, they will be passed along through generations to awe our children. And I should get to an unemployment line? Do you even leave the house to check your mailbox? A little more fresh air and some real-life social interaction and perhaps you might not be so angry and war-mongering.
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Mar 25, 2003 11:12:36 AM CST
I'll be my left one that the new Indy is more along the lines of
by theginger twit
Indy without nazi's isn't indy? get your head out your bum. This'll be grand spanking excitment!
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We're all doomed if people truly believe that we're in good capable hands. Dear god - the Arab summit has denounced the war in its entirety, and your resource grabbing leaders have managed to do what couldn't be done in Mohammed's time - unite the Muslim world (well, maybe, maybe not - its probably another boatload of retorhic). God help us if we just divide up the re-building contracts among Haliburton and its clones and politicize the nation the same way we did Afghanistan. Our greatest export: Fucking people over. BTW - Indiana Jones and a Total Lack of Nazis is a good title. Keep it.
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Mar 25, 2003 11:26:44 AM CST
Jesus One Fett, are you talking to anyone or have you gone berko
by theginger twit
Oh and Harry, sorry to hear about your arse. In any case it doesn't sound good.
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These constant terrorist attacks leave me with a bad taste in my mouth!! Or is that the familiar stick afterglow of man love in my throat?
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Maybe you need to lay off the juice, eh.
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The legend of the Spear of Destiny is that Hitler took it and used its power to take on the world - and that he held it in a glass case in his Berlin Bunker.
The legend says that when the soviets ambushed, they found him not dead, but horribly mutated by the raw power which then killed him. They then took the spear back to Moscow for study.
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Mar 25, 2003 11:53:41 AM CST
Sorry, I should've known you must get that all the time...
by california split
Coming from you, Fishy Cunt, of he who gets the bright idea to tell a leftist to go to a peace rally, giving me pointers on the freshness of my "material" seems suspect. I'm just trying to help you overcome this bitter self-loathing that leads to these textually violent outbursts. If you don't want my help just say so. No wonder you're a beligerent sad-sack.
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It goes along the lines of EAT MORE FIBRE! Makes faeces come out easier and they're wiped away easier as well, with less paper abrasion against your soft rectal tissues, or something like...hang on a second...WHY THE FUCK AM I TALKING ABOUT THIS ON AN INDY WEBSITE???? Back on topic: I actually prefer Temple of Doom to Last Crusade. Am I the only person in the world who feels this way???...
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You have a common condition called anal fissures. Anal Fissures are tiny tars in the lining of your rectum that can, at times, bleed profusely. Go and see a Colon and Rectal guy immediately. Most of the time this condition can be treated with a topical cream to aid in the healing process, but if the fissures remain for an extended period of time, they will have to be removed surgically. This requires several numbing shots directly into your rectum and then the fissure is cut out and the wound cauterized. Don't worry about infections though, even if you don't get the problem treated. The area where the tears occur are generally immune to common bacteria since they are regularly exposed to the harshest the body has to offer. And don't worry about Moriarty licking your ass either, unless you carry a sexually transmitted disease then he should be fine. Just tell him to ignore the coppery after taste.
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Does anyone here read theonion.com's hilarious "Hollywood Outsider" column? The joke is that the author is so completely out of the loop that his "news" is hopelessly outdated and/or inaccurate. AICN is because "The Hollywood Outsider." This Indiana Jones story, like the vast majority of AICN stories, has been appearing on other sites or three or four days. It's not news anymore. Now, I wouldn't make such a big deal out of this if AICN didn't have such an air of smug supierority, but the simple FACT is that any info you can get on AICN can be obtained a day or two earlier on another site.
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Californial Split, number one when you call somebody out for using foul language, referring to them as "jackass" show (1) you have no real point, because you are as low as they are, and (2) just like all the other liberals you are a hypocrit. And c'mon face facts you are only a liberal because yo are uneducated, yo u can't think for yourself, you hate your mommy and daddy, america, and everything that stands for good. And towlie, you are still one of the stupidest most misguided uniformed morons I've ever had the pleaure of not meeting. God bless all especially out troops.
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You have to be careful about those anal fissures. Do you have any idea how bad they sting when bathed with man goo? Just try and have an innocent encounter at a turnpike rest stop, and you wont be sitting down for a week! Its the sodium content that gets ya!
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Zionism is fascism, Zionism is fascism... May I ask how excatly you define "fascism"? Israel has had three elections since 1999, three more than such non-fascist governments like Cuba, China and all the Arab nations. You may not realize that Zionism, the belief in having a Jewish state is not limited to any single political ideology -- there have been Marxist Zionists along with extreme nationalist ones.
The letter signed by Einstein and others was criticizing the right wing Herut Party, not Zionism as a whole.
While not nationalistic, Einstein was not anti-Zionist either (he was offered the ceremonial Presidency of Israel) and supported a Jewish settlement and cultural institutions such as the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
As for the Jewish anti-Zionist websites, they are run by the Neturei Karta a very Orthodox group that believes that any pre-Messianic Jewish rule in the Holy Land is satanic in nature. And yes, one can be anti-Zionist and not anti-Semitic, but those who willfully excuse or ignore violence against Jews, whether by Palestinians or others come very close. -
has a beer and cheats on his girlfriend coz she's an ugly bag of bones that had her show cancelled coz it was fucking shit." Starring Harrison Ford and Introducing Hulk Hogan as his twin brother, Butch. "I'm your long lost twin brother, brother!"
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Ain't It Old News! Seriously, do you know how long it's been reported that Indy 4 won't have Nazis?
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How about 'Indiana Jones and the Quest to Get Spielberg's Head Out of His Butt'.
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Hey, it's the fifties folks! We're talkin' Commies and the Red Menace! Of course, they could go back to the "terrorist" that were around in the fifties. Maybe that's why they were in Isreal.."Indiana Jones vs the Irguin!!" Oy vey! ** O Great and Magnificent Harryluvatar (aka "Head Geek"), they are called hemerroids...it gets worse as you get older. Just ask yer Dad :)
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How can anyone take you seriously? Do you really want to sound off with your right-wing garbage on an Indiana Jones talkback? Okay. You wanna talk welfare, do you? Let's talk about the billions in corporate welfare offered by the U.S. to transglobal corporations with nothing but contempt for the American taxpayers from whom they reap those funds. Corporations that base their operations in tax shelter countries so they pay no taxes, yet still receive tax money so that they can remain competitive. All the while, firing workers while making a profit. If your fellow conservatives really believe in capitalism, why the massive corporate welfare programs? And don't try to sell me that trickle-down bullshit, which is considered a joke by any serious economist. Social programs (not counting Social Security which benefits everyone), like welfare for those unable to secure a job, cost only a fraction of what is handed out to corporations every year. I'd rather my tax dollars go to some poor single mother out of a job than some corporation looking for hand outs because they can't cut it as a separate business entity and remain competitive. You want to talk arts funding? This is a movie site, I love arts funding. Sure, some stuff might be a little too arty-farty for my tastes, but if it pisses off any fatass Republican senator, I'll take one for the team. You dare speak of the legitimacy of the United Nations as you defend the Smirking Chimp and his Cold Warriors? What about the legitimacy of, not a war, but a highly suspect military action undertaken by the Administrative Branch of the U.S. government in defiance of international law, not to mention against the majority of opinion of most the entire globe? Oh, about half of the American population supports it, so that's a real mandate. You support an immoral war that will kill dozens of well-meaning Americans soldiers and hundreds of innocent Iraqi civilians so that Bush can keep us in aperpetual state of emergency and war that could lead to his re-election. The maintainence of the conservative stranglehold of power is the only motivation for this military action, why else would he wait over a year after announcing his intentions to attack Hussein? To keep those poll numbers high and to set America against the rest of the world so that they are united for the presidency. Bush's handlers have always seen the Democratic party as it s only true enemy. Hell, as I pointed out in a previous post, Rumsfeld was Saddam's greatest supporter and funneled U.S. funds to set up Saddams's regime. Only it hasn't exactly worked out that way. Only true blue morons like you, Fishy Cunt, have fallen for this ruse, while the rest of the world just shudders in disgust. Oh, and your name IS stupid, sucker.
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the only reason Harrison Ford looks tired now is because he is now up all night fucking Stick-Woman who is half his age...that would make anyone as old as him look tired....
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there's your mythical beast. Journalists, columnists, pundits, editors are all imperfect by virtue of being human. We will never see a completely unbiased news outlet. The best we can hope for is the rise of another Twain- or Mencken-like wag who amuses while he deals out the biased rants.
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Is this the big "revolution" you Facer fucks promised? Stealing people's User ID's and typing up homoerotic fantasies? Jesus Christ, that's sad. "Oooh, I'm gonna pretend to be Harry!" "Aw man, I wanted to be Harry! Can I be Moriarty? That'd be kewl!" A word of advice boys, when you make other posters here actually side with Fett, then you've gone much too far in the wrong direction. And the guy pretending to be morGoth? What's the point of that? Fucking amateurs.
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If Indy decides to go after the Irgun in the 1950s he will find some guys who have long retired from action and support a amall party that would be almost perpetually in the opposition until 1977. Doesn't sound too exciting -- better make it the fedayeen supported by Nassar.
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Mar 25, 2003 2:19:15 PM CST
I'd like to see Indy go up against some Illinois Nazis...I hate
by dog of mystery
I think I had sex with Fett in a freeway rest stop. I was young and I was experimenting...Really.
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We are not out to destroy AICN and we dont come from the Facer. We just want FETT and his stupid fucking uninformed rants to be gone for good. This has nothing to do with Harry and Drew.
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Sigh. I dunno what Darabont's got up his sleeve but I'm looking forward to it. I love the Indy movies and love the character. But I can't help but think that Lucas may make this an AMERICAN GRAFITTI REVISITED. "Vell, Herr Jones, You've managed to find my lab! Very well, then, bring your Chevy Malibu to the strip at Midnight. We race for pinks!" ___________________ Towelie, one thing to remember: THe Taliban and Al Qaeda never signed the Geneva Convention and are not subject to their guarantees. NOT that America shouldn't follow em, but the Taliban is covered. ________________ One Fett, seriously, buddy, you have GOT to admit yourself into a serious psych ward for a lengthy weekend. You have ISSUES! Harry, you need TISSUES!! ___________ As for the rest of you nutjobs, I'll take a quote from Brad Pitt: "Ahhh, Fuck the Bozos!"
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Seriously, guys (or guy), can't you think of something interesting to say? You've figured out how to hijack anyone's user name, and the best you can give us is redundant homophobic jokes? If you're going this far to sabotage the Talkback, at least come up with something funny to say. Or hire someone else to write the material, cause yours stinks.
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You don't seriously think that this war is about liberation do you? This whole 'Saddam deserves it so the ends justify the means' arguement is infantile and disgusting. Its a self-serving war that you as a citizen won't come even close to benefiting from. Preventative action - you actually swallow this shit? Amazing. Seriously, it dumbfounds me.
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Liberating Iraq is a pipedream. We have never been able to follow through with our post-war rebuilding plans. Afghanistan is still a mess, we have yet to rebuild a single house or control the criminal element there. Gulf War part 1 yielded nothing. Nor did we successfully liberate Vietnam or Korea for that matter. Actually, I guess we did liberate one country. France. That worked out swell for us, didn't it? Maybe Indy can help.
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The stupidest thing I've ever heard of.. Do you people have no self respect?
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...somebody hijacked my handle (along with Harry's!) with that "Padawan" post. Look at the e-mail addy. Why in the Hell would I ever use an e-mail address that starts with "tombyronlover"? Gimme a break...I only recently got Unbanned...snif! ** Oh, I'm a big Indy fan...can't wait!
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Well, I think that on one level this war is about disarming the middle east - this is one step in many. The US obviously feels that it is in their best interests to have zero reputable organized fighting forces in the middle east outside of Israel. Hopefully, this is one end that will lead to the creation of a Palestinian state, but I'm not holding my breath. So achieving a monopoly on violence in the region is paramount. Secondly, it is about resources - all war is about property and access to resources - we're capitalists, there is no goal higher. Money is our God and we fight for our beliefs. That contracts have been signed for the eventual 're-building' of Iraq is somewhat evidence to this. Its basic colonialism - personally, I think it would happen more if the US could justify it to a world audience - but it can't so it buries it under jargon and self-important rhetoric. And it surpresses the information in places like the Congo and Sierra Leone. Thirdly, its about proftiing from the chaos that comes from terrorism on US soil, dead Americans and the Military Industrial Complex - all traditions stemming from the success of post-World War 2. Fourthy, and what I think is most important is, it is about the depletion of the US cultural and economic hegemony in the world - Our economic might is becoming vulnerable - a unified Europe presents a larger marketplace for goods, as does a profitable and expanding Pacific Rim. Our formerly intractable place as number one Marketplace is suspect. So we resort to the age old power broker - the military, where we are still, clearly number one. BTW, I don't hate the US at all (I'm Canadian, I say we a lot when referiing to the US, because were far more the same than different - not politcally, but culturally), but we are in a very bad place with this current administration. I believe them to be very dangerous to you and I - our interests are not being served at all.
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Call me a cynic, but I just don't see this war working out as rosey as people say. My point is, liberating a country is a lot easier than rebuilding it. The citizens need strong leadership. I just don't believe we're going to leave this place any better off than Afghanistan. Look at the state Russia's been in since they freed themselves from the shackles of Communism. Frankly, I don't see any of those places improving in less than a decade (if at all). I have no evidence to back this up. It's pure conjecture based on what I've seen go on before.
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Well, Menachim Begin (sp?) was certainly still around in the fifties as well as members of the even more violent
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Starring:
Harrison Ford as himself
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Calista Flockhart as herself
"See the movie critics are raving as. 'A stimulating good time.' 'It's bonerific!' and 'It had me going when the opening title came in.' So go see 'Indiana Jones and the quest for viagra' rated R."
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I remember reading in Newsweek almost a year ago the story about the
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Mar 25, 2003 4:37:38 PM CST
Well...maybe they'll use the villians from the "Emperor's Tomb"
by screenplaywriter
Maybe it'll have Indy going up against the Chinese, or Russians, or possibly the Japs. I dunno, whoever Indy goes after, it ends cool so I'm all for this fourth one.
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Thanks. It's all just opinions anyway. Everyone has them. I just hope they bring your boys back real soon. It saddens me that they are the ones who believe in the effort 100% - they have to. They're dying for it. And they don't deserve to.
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Mar 25, 2003 4:53:36 PM CST
This is by turns one of the most entertaining and stupidest TB's
by earthworm
The war stuff's interesting if a little overdone recently, but nice that it ends happily. The Facer geeks need no more attention than they've already had. Me? I wish it stayed on funny names for the next Indy film. Here's my final one, Indiana Jones and the Spray On Hair"
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Indiana Jones and the Least Sexy Tomboy Beanpole on the Planet
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Now I've been cloned by those nice young Facer geeks. I imagine I'll soon be talking about some fanboy's gay fantasies. How very droll. Earthworm out for the day.
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Nice to know there's a fellow Canuck on here (well, there's probably quite a few). Actually, I'm a transplanted Canadian living in North Carolina. I share dual citizenship and the whole "we" thing you brought up is so true. Canadians partake of so much American culture it's hard not to think of us being one and the same. Many Canadians will fight it, but deep down people in both countries are pretty much the same, just good people. Anyway, I liked the points you brought up in your recent post. That Haliburton rebuilding info that's coming out sure does raise eyebrows, at least for people willing to look at both sides of the argument. I have no problem with pro-war people but I hope they at least wonder about some of at the crooked behind the scenes stuff. Not to say that as a guy against this war that I haven't been proven wrong at times. I've seen things during the war coverage that has actually made me think, well, some good really is coming out of this thing. Anyway, I will say I hope our boys (and our fellow commonwealth Brits) get the kudos and benefits they deserve when they come back because they really are dealing with some hellish stuff and they have my complete respect. Looks like I'm all over the place here. Oh yeah, I'm all for an Indy 4 so long as the script doesn't suck. Even at his age, I still think Ford can pull it off.
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This could be Ford's Never Say Never Again. Think of all the "former action hero" jokes that could be made. The Indiana Jones series, like Star Wars worked in large part because of their humor. I hope Ford actually plays his age in this one, otherwise it won't work. He has to make you feel like this guy is really 60 years old and still out there trying to save the world. As far as artifacts go, I really don't know. I mean they did the two big ones that have any relevance as far as being famous. They have to go bigger this time. They have to have him find the Secret of Life, or God, or Heaven, or the Gateway to Otherworlds. It has to feel real, and it has to be relevant to people living in this day and age (which is hard to do with religion). Raiders worked so well because it took the subject of religion and God and the Ark so seriously. Nobody could complain at the end when God took his vengence on the Nazi's because you can't really feel sorry for the Nazi's, and nobody makes you feel guilty for not feeling sorry for them (thankfully). It's harder with some other villains because they don't want the film to come off as a self righteous religious film. Hopefully they can keep the suspense real and really shock us at the end like they did with Raiders so many years ago.
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A dusty felt fedora, large magnifying glass and a pair of small tweezers = MOVIE MAGIC!!
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Indiana Jones...Keeping up with the Jonses...Old wives sayings...Sayings...Curse words have to do with sayings...People curse during sex...Sex...A thing that many people who do the first TalkBack have never had...I GOT IT!!! The new Indy movie is gonna suck!
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Mar 25, 2003 6:20:40 PM CST
Did anyone else read 'INDIANA JONES and a total lack of Nazis wi
by togmeister
Sounds stupid, but after the CGI vandalism perpetuated on Star Wars and E.T. i wouldn't put anything past 'em. You know, airbrush out the swatsikas on the uniforms and things like that. I sighed with relief when i saw that this was about Indy 4. About which, i steadily maintain that this is how they will get around Ford's age : if Indy 3 was about Indy and his dad, Indy 4 will be about Indy and his SON. Maybe the product of his relationship with Marion before 'Raiders'. So a younger guy will handle the physical stuff. To wit, many have reported that Hugh Jackman has met with Luca$ recently and assumed he was going to be in Episode 3. But i don't buy it - you heard it here first, i think Hugh Jackman is going to be Indy Jones Junior. Oh yes..... (as long as we don't get Affleck)
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Fuck that.
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In my opinion, the best storyline would be an amalgam of several rumored storylines. The backdrop of the story would be a world plagued by the heightening tensions of the cold war. An un-named high ranking U.S. intelligence agency recruits Indiana Jones for a very top-secret project. They would contact Dr. Jones shortly after the Roswell Incident, exposing the truth that an alien craft did, indeed, crash in the desert. However, the ship is so badly damaged that very little could be salvaged, much less learned from it. Given the obvious benefits that U.S military organizations/space programs/etc. stood to gain from such a discovery, they send Indiana Jones out to research UFO-type sightings down through history. His search would lead him to the pyramids in Egypt (they could work in Salaa!) and eventually to the pyramids in South/Central America where the "Legend of the Seven Cities of Gold" turn out to be an ancient colony where men & visitors from the stars co-existed to some capacity. A fully functional starship underneath an ancient pyramid or city? Maybe Indiana could stumble upon the secret of man's origin or presence on earth or something. I don't know. Either way, they could easily work in political intrigue, the Roswell storyline and still have Dr. Jones rummaging through antiquity, running through jungles and kicking ass. I hope they don't try to work in a son or any bullshit like that, though.
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"I have a problem where every time I poop, I always feel like there is more left inside of me."
You young whippersnapper geeks can kid about this all you want but wait until you get to be my age. You won't be joking about this anymore. I guarantee it. I went from a daily dump during my first 40 years to an every-other-day dump during the next 10 to I-hope-I-can-get-it-out, maybe-twice-a-week dump now that I am in my 50s. Not to mention what has happened to my sex life. But that's another story, for another time. Ask Harrison Ford what it's like. He is almost 60, after all. All the Viagra in the world won't help that man. -
until i see actual set photos and reports, i'm not gettin my hopes up
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"Indy goes on a hunt to discover the body of Christ. It is said to possess powers of resurrection."
Jones travels back in time to the scene of the crucifixion. He waits until Jesus is laid out in the borrowed grave and then swipes the body to bring back to 1952. He plans on studying it and maybe even putting it on display in a museum. Problem is, three days later it disappears. And then all hell breaks loose. -
Mar 25, 2003 10:03:16 PM CST
Harrison Ford is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet.
by rj fletcher
Seriously, is George going to screw this up worse than SW? God, I hope not...
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Harrison Ford is cool....Indian Jones is uber-kewl and George Lucas is writing the script.. oh--shit..... Let's hope he doesn't fuck this up. Peronally, I don't think Steven Speilsberg (sp?) would let him screw it up. The only thing I can't picture is Indy doing the whole whip-cracking jungle exploring thing in the 1960's or 1970's, which it would have to be because if Indy was about 30 in TLC, which was set in the late 30s-early 40s, and Harrison is 60 now, then that'll place it in to 60's or 70's. Hopefully, he'll find Atlantis or something almost as cool and decide to stay or something. That would be a good ending to the saga.
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Mar 25, 2003 11:22:40 PM CST
Viva La France THE COMPLETE MILITARY HISTORY OF FRANCE
by chimmythechimp
Screw the nazis! Even at 60 Indy could beat the French! Take a look friends!> > > > > -- Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years > of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian. > > -- Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic > who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies > are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." > > -- Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever > lose two wars when fighting Italians. > > -- Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots. > > -- Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages > to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other > participants started ignoring her. > > -- War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as > chapeaux. > > -- The Dutch War - Tied. > > -- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War - > Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles > the world over to label the period as the height of French military power. > > -- War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their > first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since. > > -- American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future > Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far > more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the > Second Rule of French Warfare;"France only wins when America does most of > the fighting." > > -- French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was > also French. > > -- The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First > Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a > British footwear designer. > > -- The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk > Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night. > > -- World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the > United States and Britain. Thousands of French women find out what it's like > to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." > Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any > improvement in the French bloodline. > > -- World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and > Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song. > > -- War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plea sickness, take to bed with > the Dien Bien Flu. > > -- Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army > by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule > of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical > to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, > Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux. > > -- War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders > to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese > ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's. >
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Also, fuck Saddam Hussein. You know he'd kill you if he had the chance. See if you all are still calling Bush a war-monger after Saddam unleashes poison gas on the rest of the world. Sorry if we offend the rest of the damn world because we're not just the UN's muscle, but apparently its balls. For all of you non-Americans: you'd hate the son of a bitch too if he was targeting YOUR country.
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"Indiana Jones and The Search For My Pills, Now Where The Sam Hell Did I Put Those Damn Things, They Were Just Here. Willie!? Shorty?! Have You Seen My Goddamned Pills? They Were Just Christing Here, For God's Sake..." :)
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I heard it faced stiff competition this year, rubbing elbows with top notch films like "Swept Away" and "Crossroads". Yup, it's sure riding high.
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YES PLEASE!@!!!! THINK ABOUT IT!!!!! I can so see him in that outfit.... oohhhhhhhhhhhhh I feel weird
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/03/23/do2305.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2003/03/23/ixop.html
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Jesus, so France is taking the passafist standpoint.. Christ-all-fucking-mighty.. who gives a rats ass!.. Besides when the French heard that Germany had advanced in the World Cup they surrendered Paris..... AGAIN. So it's nothing new.... P.S. Fuck the new Indy movie, just release the old ones on DVD already, that thar's what I'm waitin' fer
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Fuck my speling, fuck it in its stupid ass.
Dyslexics have more fnu.
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I feel sorry for Darabont - how is this going to do anything other than suck balls?
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The Atlantis story I think would be great. I don't think they can do anything with another Nazi storyline. Also, what's with the politics on this MOVIE website? Seriously guys, you are starting to sound even worse than those movie stars.
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Have a little faith will ya. If you like the Indy trilogy, then give them a shot on number 4. I just saw Harrison Ford on Inside the Actor's Studio stating that if this movie is going to be made then it's gonna have to be something special. I would have to agree in that these guys know what they are doing and have complete respect for the movie going public.
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Raiders was amazing and I'll concede that it can be considered the best on the grounds that it was the first and it broke "new" ground. However, as far as storytelling, filmmaking, and action set peices, Temple is by far the superior of the three. Last Crusade doesn't even count. With Indy, and with Star Wars, it seems that the creators were given carte blanche for the second movie, and made the movie they *wanted* to make... Darker and more adult. When public response was cool the third movies went back to the formula of the original and were simply sad remakes. Temple is the Empire of the Indy Trilogy.
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Is it me, or were the Indiana Jones films not really all that amazing in the first place? Well, the first one was pretty good, but TEMPLE OF DOOM and LAST CRUSADE weren't exactly masterpieces. For first class action/adventure movies, give me Bond, a DIE HARD or even a LETHAL WEAPON any day.
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Not.
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....has INDIANA JONES 4 actually been announced yet? OFFICIALLY announced, I mean. It seems to have been announced at regular intervals by movie magazines and websites for years on end without ever actually getting made.
Have Spielberg, Lucas and Ford held a press conference and announced start dates, release dates, etc.? Have they actually signed contacts and committed themselves? -
Whoa, careful there. We don't want all these Yankee doodles knowing we're everywhere infiltrating the meta-system with our ruthless approach to multilateralism through beer commercials and touque propoganda programs. Snow is the opiate of the masses. And just for the record - I can't speak French. I can swear in French only - Tabernac, indeed. Just one more Maudit Anglo to add to the conspiracy. On topic: Indy movies are really good. I enjoy them alone and with friends.
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Mar 26, 2003 2:38:59 PM CST
Real and BRAND NEW, never before read Indiana Jones 4 NEWS strai
by robert evans
http://www.livejournal.com/users/soccer_mom56
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Locations in Israel? Setting in the 1950s? It's probably got something to do with the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Copper Scroll offers what seems to be incomplete instructions for finding a vault of treasure.
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-Indiana Jones AND The Tube of Denturecream
-Indiana Jones AND The Vase Of Dad's Ashes
-Indiana Jones AND The NeverEnding Gobstopper
-Indiana Jones AND A Dog Named Skip
-Indiana Jones AND The UNIVAC
-Indiana Jones KILLS A 15yr Old Saddam Hussein. Just Some Ideas!
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"Thrust your black lightsaber young padawan...hrrmph." -Yoda to Mace Windu
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That is all.
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Indiana Jones and The Quest for the Doppelganger.
Indiana Jones (Harrison Ford) discovers there's a younger clone of himself, Senoj Anaidni (Corin Wossisname) doing all the treasure hunting. With the help of an archeologist friend (Clara Roft) he sets out to Israel just for the fuck of it, while running through Tokyo and Johannesburg.
Will he manage to find him? Will he adopt Senoj as his long lost son and only hope to continue the rundown series?
It's INDIANA JONES AND THE QUEST FOR THE DOPPLEGANGER. In theatres everywhere.
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