Feb. 14, 2003, 6:17 a.m. CST
He was drawing lines of chalk on the wall of my brother's house to corral ants. That was right around the time he finished writing Confessions. He's a freaking genius...and a little crazy...but most genius' are.
Feb. 14, 2003, 6:17 a.m. CST
Oh...btw...am I actually first for once?
Feb. 14, 2003, 6:18 a.m. CST
Please, Dear God, do not let them remake "The Thin Man" with Brosnan and Russo...not with anybody! We need originals, not remakes.
Feb. 14, 2003, 6:19 a.m. CST
by The Handsome 12th Doctor
Not that there's anything wrong with that. Or anything...... This Kaufman script sounds and looks like it could be interesting, like the majority of his work always does. This is the one that Kate had blue hair for, right?..... Oh, and FIRST!
Feb. 14, 2003, 6:32 a.m. CST
and boy did that trick get old fast.
Feb. 14, 2003, 6:38 a.m. CST
by Silvio Dante
I was willing to give Carrey a chance. To wipe the slate clean. Fresh start. Next thing you know his up to his armpit in cow's rectum in Me, Myself & Irene.
Feb. 14, 2003, 7:27 a.m. CST
The entire history of cinematic love is discounted because the new hotness decided to write about love. Jesus christ.
Feb. 14, 2003, 7:37 a.m. CST
...I have Harry and Charlie Kaufman telling me exactly how I feel everytime I get dumped. It's just a movie script. Does the guy have good ideas? Yes? Original? Yes. Can he see into the hearts and minds of everyone who has ever been hurt? Highly doubt it. Besides, this movie has Jim Carrey in it--who is heading straight into Robin Williams as Patch Adams territory.
Feb. 14, 2003, 8:42 a.m. CST
I got my hands on this script about a month ago and couldn't put it down. I read all night long, and by 5am, I put the script down and just started crying. Reading it was a rare experience, as I'm sure the movie will be.
Feb. 14, 2003, 9:33 a.m. CST
You Yanks should save some of those tears for people who actually exist beyond a cinema screen. Like all the innocent Iraquis your retarded government plan to massacre in the coming weeks.
Feb. 14, 2003, 9:33 a.m. CST
...is scheduled to begin 3,2,1, now. Kaufman's scripts are the most contrived in the biz. I hate to say it (really) but he is all brilliant high-concept and mediocre execution. Seriously, watch Being John Malkovich and Adaptation (his most celebrated scripts) again and watch the wheels come off the wagon like clockwork (at about the 80 minute mark). He puts his characters in these brilliant conceits and gives them nothing (or worse yet, something stupid) to do. They are the equivalent of parlor tricks, which, while amusing, do not especially illuminate or entertain once the initial novelty wears off. He's getting feted for his concepts and not his execution.
Feb. 14, 2003, 10:30 a.m. CST
To call someone a Troll is to be a Troll yourself n'est pa?
Feb. 14, 2003, 10:33 a.m. CST
what's that you say? a remake of the thin man? what the hell is wrong with people? now-a-days everything you see is a freaking remake. are people so desperate to make money that they will remake something. i know it's not for paying homage to anything or one. the thin man is one of my favorites and to know that there will be a remake in the works really pushes my buttons. when i learned of the truth behind the truth about charlie i was totally stunned. charade? c'mon. why remake it and why with a different name? to fool unsuspecting moviegoers into giving hollywood some money to see something that has already been done and done well, i might add. if there's anyone out there that's listening, please discourage the remake. please. let's embrace the past and not clone it for the future. by the way, where's harry getting that arrow from?
Feb. 14, 2003, 10:40 a.m. CST
Pierre You wouldn't happen to be an englishman masquerading as a frog would you? Whilst I enjoy your chariacture of an englishman's view of the french-I somehow feel that you're about as authentic as "French's Mustard". Anyway-"bon chance" to you me old china. Most amusing. And if you really are french-to quote Edith Piaf-Je ne regrette rien.
Feb. 14, 2003, 10:43 a.m. CST
by Trav McGee
I won't have to drink? Or join the Foreign Legion? Well that changes everything, then, doesn't it. ...Might still drink, though.
Feb. 14, 2003, 10:45 a.m. CST
harry is a little obsessed with richard kelly. he really needs to get laid.
Feb. 14, 2003, 11:04 a.m. CST
I read it straight through in about 3 hours around a month ago. It had me literally leaping out of seat. I'm excited to see this on film. Have to say I'm a little worried about Jim Carrey as the lead. Its hard to imagine him in something that isn't a goofy comedy.
Feb. 14, 2003, 11:15 a.m. CST
when someone pulls off something decent and it get catapulted to the level of "Film Perfection!!". "Writing Genius!!" gush gush gush. Give me a fucking break! If we were'nt bombarded with so much shit all the time from movies and from television, christ even from bad commercials that are airing at 1 mil a pop for 60 seconds, we would'nt be so ready to accept something that under normal circumstances we would say "Yeah, it was good.". Good is not great, it's not something that we should fawn over, it's good thats it. I was entertained, that's why I paid $8 to see it. Entertain me don't bullshit me. SO many fuckin' hacks gettin paid to write drivel while I'm sure so many good scripts are out there in peoples heads or pc's. Be nice to see some new blood get in the game and really put out something to get excited over, I'm tired of the Scooby Doo's, I don't care how much they make. BAH!
Feb. 14, 2003, 11:29 a.m. CST
that needs to be made is Hong Kong Fooey, But alas since Scatman died it will never work out now. Freddie... BAH! I say.
Feb. 14, 2003, 11:36 a.m. CST
is Digby, the Biggest Dog in the World. Brings back memories that one.
Feb. 14, 2003, 11:53 a.m. CST
Yes, Richard Kelly very well could be mentioned in every article. And with good reason. The guy pulled off, first time through, one of the most beautiful, transcendant, hilarious, and scathingly satirical movies I've seen in a long time: Donnie Darko. It was no teen flick, like some accused it of being. No, It was a movie about fate. It was a movie about *gasp* God and religion, miracles and morality. It's not a movie for people unprepared to think, but I would say it's one of those movies that makes thinking an enjoyable part of movie-going. If you really think about it, that's not such a bad idea. Wouldn't it be much easier to relax during a film, if you knew that you think freely during the film and not spoil the fun? Besides, I believe that what Harry says is true- we need less redundancy in our film, fewer films merely acting as copies of things that worked before. That model assumes continuity of success. Truth is, though years of piling cliche on top of cliche may conceal it, the stuff that entertained us the most in the past was the stuff that successfully challenged our expectations and won.
Feb. 14, 2003, 12:05 p.m. CST
This review was absolutley perfect. Poignant, thoughtful - surely you must have wept when you wrote it. Seriously. Forget these assholes who only post on here to make fun of you in an attempt to get attention. I'm not just kissing your ass for the hell of it, either. This was good, and I can't WAIT to see the movie. And to DannyOcean1 - you ignorant piece of crap - all most people are trying to do is get a LITTLE enjoyment out of something in these dark days, but stupid fucks like you have to chime in about how all of us war-mongering Americans can't wait to see people suffer and die. Fuck you. If you have a complaint about that, send it to Bush. We, as the general public, have about as much influence over the decision to go to war as the Iraqi people do over thier own fucked up government. I just love people that seem to think that 'America' is just one big mass of like-minded people. You obviously have no idea who we are, so take your ignorant comments and go to hell.
Feb. 14, 2003, 12:36 p.m. CST
There's a little story by T.E.D. Klein called "S.F."--which stands for "Selective Forgetfulness." It was published in the 70's, in one of the DAW Best Horror of the Year anthologies (although it was an original story).
Feb. 14, 2003, 12:38 p.m. CST
by eau hellz gnaw
these ridiculous, self-important, long-winded bullshit reviews are the only reason i come to this site now.***i literally popped a boner when i saw "the two towers"...i held myself, rocking and crying in the corner after seeing "rules of attraction"...when i read this script i thought back to my childhood years when i used to read fanon and malcolm x.***
Feb. 14, 2003, 12:46 p.m. CST
Randle is trying to be me, fettastic! This is fucked up! Why would you want to be me? You don't even hold a candle to my knowledge of animation and Star Wars. Shut the Fuck up and leave me Alone!
Feb. 14, 2003, 12:59 p.m. CST
Freddie Prinze Jr. was the perfect Fred because the only name he responds to is his own and he's also c***-whipped. I can't wait for this movie. It's about the whole reason I don't (can't, won't, shouldn't?) date. I also love Jim Carrey. (So let the hate mail begin!)
Feb. 14, 2003, 1:01 p.m. CST
that I am a lonely man who makes rubber dicks all day and jerks off to pictures of ARIEL. I am alone. Ironically I can identify with that.
Feb. 14, 2003, 1:04 p.m. CST
After all he's Euro-peon, and thus has a cultural predilection to take it up the ass from despots, then beg for more. Don
Feb. 14, 2003, 1:37 p.m. CST
Will you please ban this asshole and give his address to penis-enlargement spamrs?
Feb. 14, 2003, 1:58 p.m. CST
Everything he said in this review truly resonated with me. In fact I wish this article had been less poignant and heartfelt because now i'm flooded with my own unwanted images of the one that fell from my grasp. Enough public lamentation, I firmly believe Jim Carrey can burst through the glass ceiling of typecasting that people have placed above him. He's delivered past expectations in the past and dammit this might just be the role that finally recognizes his talent. Remember the scene in "Man On the Moon" when he realizes the whole cancer removal operation is just one big scam? Remember the combined look of sorrow and recognition of the irony involved? That takes true craft and ability that is sadly lacking with many actors. Happy Valentines Day folks.
Feb. 14, 2003, 2:12 p.m. CST
Just out of curiosity, I want you to explain YOUR take on the ending of Adaptation. For some reason, I believe some people didn't really "get it". I can see how some people can easily say that it was a hack way of ending it, but I don't think it was that simple. Please respond here in TB and let me know what your understanding of the ending was....and BTW GeorgeLoweBanned is the official RETARD of TB this week.
Feb. 14, 2003, 3 p.m. CST
...go to thefacer.net.
Feb. 14, 2003, 3:13 p.m. CST
et Harry, you need to get laid, seriously man. (instead of being excited about a script.)
Feb. 14, 2003, 3:47 p.m. CST
Every time a movie comes along that taps into that "loved and lost" vein, you seem to dissolve into a puddle. I have to say, I feel for you, sir. And you know what? One day you will be over whatever it is in your own life that makes you vulnerable on this score, and on that day you will find that these films weren't all you cracked them up to be. Since this is Kaufman, it will probably at least be interesting. But it won't be profound. What will be profound is the moment of stillness you will feel when you recover. [The clear sky; the open hand.] Good luck.
Feb. 14, 2003, 3:50 p.m. CST
Harry's review is pretty good. I concure in a lot of areas. You (AICN Talk Backers) can also read the script at http://www.simplyscripts.com/movie.html and see if you agree...
Feb. 14, 2003, 4:06 p.m. CST
Here's my take on the end of Adaptation, and forgive me if this is exactly how YOU saw the film, and this is all just obvious to you. It's just that I've found that a few people that I have talked to about this film didn't quite see it the same way as I did. First, I'll start with the most obvious parts that everyone understood (and I'll try not to ramble on too long): the film is mutlilayered, we have Charlie's story as a writer, we Have Orlean's story as a writer, and the film itself is another layer where the other two are combined. So as Charlie struggles with the task of adpapting Orlean's work, at the same time he has to put up with his twin brother who stands for everything he hates about the "Hollywood" way of writing. He talks about not liking the idea of using "sex scenes" and "car chases" for the sake of making a film more appealing. He listens to his brother describe how he wants to use "voice over", and how he wants to put "Happy Together" by the Turtles in his own film for whatever reason. That all happens in the first two acts. By the third act, Charlie finally gives up trying to adapt, and turns to his brother for help on the script. This is where the film takes it's big turn. Once Charlie allows Donald to get involved, at that moment the film itself becomes something different. Suddenly we see all the film devices and ideas that Donald had that Charlie loathed in the first two acts coming alive in the third. Sex, drugs, car chases, voice over, even the damn Turtles song, are all there. So is the film about Charlie adpating a book, or about Charlie adapting to Hollywood?... I just thought it was easy for some people to not understand the irony of the third act and just see it as a hack job, when that was EXACTLY what Charlie was trying to do. I thought it was a brilliant way of showing the "dumbing down" of most Hollywood films. Did Charlie just give up and take the easy way out? NO. He was purposely showing us how Hollywood usually handles an adaptation in the hands of a hack (portrayed by his fake brother, Donald). Sorry if this is already understood, but I thought it was genius and by some overlooked.
Feb. 14, 2003, 4:30 p.m. CST
Probably, you son of a bitch rat bastard.
Feb. 14, 2003, 4:52 p.m. CST
fait pas chier, et arrete de nous faire passer pour des minables. t'as vraiment rien d'autre a foutre?.
Feb. 14, 2003, 5:03 p.m. CST
Feb. 14, 2003, 5:05 p.m. CST
Here is your translated message : "fact of not shitting, and arrete to make us pass for minables. have you really nothing of another A foutre?." Is that what you were trying to say?....lol
Feb. 14, 2003, 6:28 p.m. CST
The only leather patches in his wardrobe are on the knees of his pants! Ba-dump-bump. Thank you, thank you. I'm here til Thursday.
Feb. 14, 2003, 7:08 p.m. CST
Carrey as the star will guarantee low turnout.
Feb. 14, 2003, 10:34 p.m. CST
DannyOcean. I'm so bored with the USA. RIP Joe! Oh yeah, French hip hop is the best, because American hip hop is like black country music for black rednecks. DJ Cam rules! OK. I have to apologize for this post. There's nothing on topic in this. And I'm not bashing anyone. You all have good opinions. And Harry and the crew let us take up bandwidth, so be good to them. You don't have to agree, but it's nice to say thanks. I'm just somewhat lovestruck at the moment, and cannot help feeling 20 again. Bear with me! The cynical and jaded anathema will be on hiatus for a while. And, without coming off as a smelly, dirty hippie, stop this silly war and zip up your pants, America. We're better than this. We have enormous potential to do good. Yet we support apartheid and theocracies (sic, i know, sleepy) in the face of our own value for human rights. Israel is not our 51st state, yet they receive more cash than any of the 50. Stop this elitist religious ethnic cleansing of Palestine! I'm Jewish, and I know better than to support evil just because evil has happened to us. But now it's my religion that's to blame. Just know we're all not racist. And we're still Americans, we can resist. Movies are great, but peace is greater. I'll definately see this film. CK is a mad genius, the screenwriting equivalent of Lynches visuals. I swear I'm not trying to start shit, just think about it. If you think, and act on those thoughts, you cn change the world. It's Valentines Day and I'm in love, so allow me this burst of idealism. You may return to your regularly scheduled talkback. Sorry I got off- topic there, guys. Won't happen again.
Feb. 15, 2003, 1:14 a.m. CST
Kaufman wrote 4 scripts right?Being J.M,Adaptation,Confession and what?Sorry for my lack of easiness in writing in english.J'ai vu qu'il y avait quelques francais ici,mais suis-je le seul qu
Feb. 15, 2003, 7:15 a.m. CST
I think Donald's contribution to the ADAPTION screenplay started around the time that he pretended to be Charlie and met with Susan Orlean. A twin pretending to be his twin is very cliche.
Feb. 16, 2003, 3:06 a.m. CST
by Simi Valley Tom
How's the ending? Except for CONFESSIONS OF A DANGEROUS MIND, I hate the endings in Kaufman's stuff. They go off track into PC blubberings or unexplained, annoying character changes. Also, I don't think his ideas are commercial enough; he should design things for a broader audience.
Feb. 16, 2003, 6:05 a.m. CST
I think there are two reasons people dislike the ending of ADAPTATION. 1.) They are stupid and don't get it. 2.) They are smart and they DO get it, but they still feel depressed and/or betrayed because these characters they've grown to care for throughout the film were ripped away from them (and turned into HUSKS, if you will) by Donald's "mainstream" writing style. Those who think that the whole wacky concept of Donald taking over the writing of the film is just so supermegacool will go along with it, while those who are not as easily amazed will not.
Feb. 16, 2003, 8:25 a.m. CST
What if somebody talks to you about your ex-girlfriend, like one of your buddies or something? "Hey, man, I'm sorry you and Sherry broke up." "What? What the hell are you talking about!?" Unless he knows he had a girlfriend and just doesn't remember her.