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Published at:  Feb 11, 2003 9:16:21 AM CST

Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.



I think Harry’s finally seeing DAREDEVIL tonight, and I’m very curious to see what he thinks of it. So far, I’ve talked to a lot of people who liked it, and a few who haven’t, and I’m still not sure why people don’t like it. No one’s been able to explain their disappointment with the film to me in terms that make sense, but those who like it seem to be quite verbose on the subject. Check out today’s spies for an example.



First up, there’s this guy who seems pleased:



Harry,

just wanted to drop in a few lines about the new "Dare Devil" movie. In an effort to be spoiler-free, I'll set this up with my perceptions going in, and my feelings throughout the viewing, and my thoughts upon "digesting" the film.

Like many that use your site, I've always been a fan-boy. I collected many comics over the years, but never as heavy as I did throughout my teens. It was at this time I discovered Frank Miller, and purchased everything the man touched. For me, the only truly great Dare Devil storylines came about during Miller's different tenures with the comic. The best may have actually been the storyline he wrote accompanied by the beautiful-gritty artwork of David Mazzechelli (sp?) which focused on the tragic fall of Matt at the hands of the Kingpin. Just great stuff. Nuff said!

I've tried to stay away from too much gossip on this movie, but like everyone else, I just couldn't help myself. Let's start tearing into this. For starters, I didn't understand the casting of Ben Affleck. Unless they felt he is a marketable name, he's not an action star, nor does he really look like Matt Murdoch. Jennifer Garner - I kind of got this. She's beautiful, athletic, and looks like she could kick your ass! Alias is her resume to prove she's ready for a movie like this. Micheal Clarke Duncan - seemed like a pretty good choice to me. Bullseye - I didn't really have a strong attachement to this villian....not like I did Matt Murdoch....

.....which may be the most interesting thing about this character. To me, Dare Devil is a character of pure tragedy. He's lost everyone he ever loved. He's blind and in the comics, he always seems....sad. By casting Affleck, he looks like a Bruce Wayne type of hero. More on that in a minute.

As I'm watching this movie, I'm not feeling much of anything. I'm just munching on popcorn. We get the standard intro into a character (voiceover narration) as he
procedes to tell us how he became who he is. There's some fighting...blah blah blah. But about 1/2 hour into this movie....it comes alive.

Jennifer Garner appears, and something just happens. I know some are thinking "babe alert" and, yes that works, but it's something else. Her presence is felt in this movie. She is really, truly magical in this movie. My wife felt the same way. Here's a truly great movie heroine. She's beautiful to men and women. Not fake, natural-----sweet and tough. But then, as the movie rapidly moves along (it's only 90 minutes long) we began to feel the super-hero movie curse. You know what I'm talking
about. Years of comic book storylines strung together in a film is a tough thing to do. X-Men almost fell into this trap a few years ago. Thank God they decided to make Wolverine a focal point.

In Dare Devil, I never really cared about Matt Murdoch. And I think that's the real core problem with this movie. In the comic, when Matt's not in the costume, you feel completely saddened by his life. Here, he's listening to one-liners tossed out by Jon Favreau and it brings out a more flamboyant Matt than what I expected. In all, this movie couldn't decide what it wanted to be. At times, I and the audience giggled with glee (the Elektra playground love-tussle is pure joy), but other times, I just couldn't buy into what I was watching. Mainly, the fight sequences. I'm not a fan of "strobe-light" fight sequences. IMO, this was done to cover-up the in-ability for Ben Affleck to kick ass. Everyone here seemed to have gained Superman-like abilities (true DD fans know that Matt only gained heightened senses -- not the ability to do a Neo-Matrix kick on his high school bullies -- along with martial arts training.

This is going on WAYYYY too long, and the reviews on this movie will be pouring in all week. To wrap this up, here' s my final thoughts. If you were a fan of Miller's Dare Devil, you will have much to appreciate here. Elektra is handled wonderfully by Jennifer Garner. She fares much better here than Ben Affleck in this movie. I like Ben. I
think he's a solid actor, but this was not a good vehicle for him. He's best when he's playing a smug, smarmy, cool guy. I picture him as a young Bruce Wayne. Good looking, rich, can get the ladies. On a more personal note, what happened to his chin! This man has an ass on his chin. In Dare Devil, we get a hero that almost becomes parody. Thanks to some good work by Jennifer Garner, and good supporting work by a Sid-Vicous villian played by Colin Farrell and a tabloid reporter played by Joey Pants, we still walk away from the theater...entertained. Fear not, Marvel Fans, The Hulk and X-Men 2 should make up for this film's shortcomings.

Travis Bickle, signing out.

Okay... let’s call that one “mixed.” Things he liked, things he didn’t. This next guy isn’t mixed about his opinion at all:



Hey harry,

Im not sure if your intrested in posting this but here goes. Saw DD tonight and i was really less then impressed. Ive been a fanboy like everyone reading this of comics sinse 1984 so i know DD,spidey,the punisher and all marvel
pretty well. Well the movie for the 1st 15 mins was halfway decent.Great origin and a cool intro.Then came the worst part=the next 1:30 mins.Affleck as DD is just that,he isnt half bad but he's no guy pierce "who most of us agree with is DD",bullseye is the most annoying villian in the HISTORY of movies.His costume is wrong,his one liners are stupid and colin ferell is a good actor but if i were him id hide in shame,he's that bad.The kingpin is nothing more then a pimp in a pinsuit.His intro is some cheesy rap song,enough said.The best part of the film is indeed elektra.Now elektra looks absolutly nothing like the comic but jennifer gardner is good and sexy and can play elektra anytime she wants.

As for the story,its pretty much the story we all know except worse.Theres no real character development and if you like limp biscuit cranked up everytime some actions about to take place,then this is your movie. On a grade scale id give it a D+,on a scale of 1-10 id give it a 4.Nice try but id rather read the comic.Theres no contemporary music.

Oh one last thing.the best part out of DD was catching the
new X2 Trailor....OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH my god is it awesome.You
see nightcrawler speak briefly,you see colossus star transforming,you see bobby kiss rogue and her blow out ice.It goes by so fast and looks so incredible its F**ing amazing.

I’d take that review more seriously if I wasn’t still trying to figure out exactly what he said. Our last spy this morning seems to have had the most fun with the film:



May be redundant now, but I saw Daredevil on Friday.

I saw it with an individual who had been slagging off the ads, the costume, the poster, the trailer since any promotion had begun. He loved it.

My own bugbear was going to be Affleck. And I loved it.

It's almost like he movie industry woke up, shook the sleep out of its eyes and saw what I saw when I was a teenager, reading the comics. I would place below Spider-man, but above X-Men. Suffice to say that means it is pretty great - a more focused, intimate film than Spidey, and yet darker and more tragic than the children of the atom.

From the SFX, shrouded in darkness as the man without fear himself, to the throbbing scoring by Graeme Revell, very facet screams care and attention. Any bum notes? Kingpin, MAYBE...dunno, not enough sense of his criminal omnipotence beyond DD's Hell's Kitchen turf. And maybe Elektra was a tad wishy-washy, often ushering Dawnson's Creek usage of soft rock tracks that ALMOST undermines the crackerjack stylings.

Exciting, revealing, involving and emotive. Terrific.

Rich

Thanks, everybody. I appreciate it, and I can’t wait to put up a TalkBack on Friday just so you can all finally have your say on this latest Marvel effort...



"Moriarty" out.








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  • Feb 11, 2003 10:27:29 AM CST

    What a group of illiterates

    by kong33

    worthless reviews. no offence to Moriarty.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 11:14:59 AM CST

    Why Does That Doofus Call Him "Dare Devil?"

    by hipcheck13

    It's Daredevil, ONE word, Mr. "I'm totally into Marvel Comics."

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  • Feb 11, 2003 11:23:31 AM CST

    Pet peeves

    by silvio dante

    Murdock, not Murdoch. Daredevil, not Dare Devil. Villain, not villian. Trailer, not trailor. Anal, yes anal.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 11:27:04 AM CST

    hard to take a review seriously when the guy can't spell the nam

    by tv casualty

    What a pile of shit. Movie looks fun, I'll go see it. But Mori, seriously, there was no need to post reviews by these halfwits. Just 'cuz you have it, doesn't mean you have to use it. Actually, what's most frustrating is that this jackass go to see the movie, and I have to wait for the weekend.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 11:28:35 AM CST

    hard to take a review seriously when the guy can't spell the nam

    by tv casualty

    What a pile of shit. Movie looks fun, I'll go see it. But Mori, seriously, there was no need to post reviews by these halfwits. Just 'cuz you have it, doesn't mean you have to use it. Actually, what's most frustrating is that this jackass go to see the movie, and I have to wait for the weekend.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 11:42:18 AM CST

    Rogue "blows out ice?"

    by terry_1978

    I ain't touchin' that one.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 1:29:16 PM CST

    Ben Affleck's chin looks like J. Lo's behind.

    by christopher3

  • Feb 11, 2003 1:38:55 PM CST

    Umm

    by ribbons

    I don't want to start going off on Moriarty, but methinks you posted those two in particular because you want to lead us into thinking the only people who didn't enjoy the movie were halfwits. You even made a crack about how you couldn't understand what the second guy was saying. I am looking forward to DareDevil, or Daredevil, if you prefer, but surely there were more concise "mixed-to-negative" reviews.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 1:40:24 PM CST

    DareDevil = Batman Returns

    by uncle sam

    That's what a lot of haters are comparing it to. A love interest with a tragic fate, a seriously fucked up villain, darkness, blood... All it needs now is a "Devilmobile", and we're set for the best Dark Knight movie ever! - I WANT YOU, but not in that way.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 1:43:00 PM CST

    Or maybe not

    by ribbons

    And if that's the case, then I apologize, it just seems odd that the only decent review came from the person who enjoyed the movie.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 2:33:04 PM CST

    On Christopher3's Comment

    by cooldude

    I hope you aren't naive enough to think it's a coincidence Ben Affleck's chin now looks like J Lo's ass!

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  • Feb 11, 2003 2:53:36 PM CST

    These reviewers are stupid

    by brian_de_man

    I would recommend AICN to not have reviews from people who cannot make a review passed 2 paragraphs. Those reviews were total crap and none of them could explain any reason why they did not like the characters they did not like. What a waste of my time. We are all stupider for actually reading this dribble.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 3:28:30 PM CST

    Seems like biased reviews there,

    by defiant

    Reading these reviews, it seemed like these people had there minds made up before they went into it. The first reviewer seemed like he wanted to hate the film but wound up liking it more than he wanted to admit. As far as Matt being a tragic character when he was Matt Murdoc and always being depressed, that really didn't happen in the comics until after the death of Elektra. And as far as "(true DD fans know that Matt only gained heightened senses -- not the ability to do a Neo-Matrix kick on his high school bullies -- along with martial arts training" DD has done quite a number of unbelieveable physical things in the comic. The second review was so vague that it seems like he already made up his mind before going in.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 3:34:13 PM CST

    Okay, Mori...you said you couldn't understand the second review,

    by sod off baldric

    I'm sorry, but DD looks like crap. I'll probably use the free coupon that's included in the X-Men 1.5 DVD to check out Daredevil, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Sorry.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 4:36:10 PM CST

    I think this will kick X:Men's and Blade's asses.

    by screenplaywriter

    "Blade" I thought was a poorly made comic-book movie because Blade didn't go hanging out in raves hunting vampires, he was out in the streets killing and blood-spilling. I thought the second one was really dumb I was sitting there laughing my ass off because it was pathetic.

    "X-Men" on the otherhand was pretty good, but needed a little more explanation on who each character was.

    "SPIDER-MAN", "BATMAN", and "SUPERMAN" have so far been the best of the comic-book movies. They had characterization, plot, going back and forth from movie to book, and it made you believe these characters were real and lived among us. "DAREDEVIL" is going to do the same thing. Just watch! Then, if "X2" is better than the first I'll put it up there in my list as a good comic-book transition.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 4:39:28 PM CST

    saw it. it sucked.

    by manofelt


    the reason the bad reviews did not elablorate is because this movie was so bad-- who whould know where to begin?

    this movie will get trashed by the industry reviewers.

    i saw it last night and the audience was beside themselves. we all kept looking at each other and asking "is this for real?"

    there are gaps in logic that no amount of suspensded disbelief will traverse: how does he jump 50' in the air if only his senses are enhanced, how does he afford that apartment and all that stuff if he's a lawyer who gets never gets paid? who is this guy kingpin and how did he get so powerful?

    there is zero character development. the plot is beyond hack. the last line of the film had my audience hysterically laughing. i could go on.

    you will see what i mean.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 5:16:02 PM CST

    Saw it, it rocked

    by omarthesnake

    Can't believe it, but it was a damned good movie. The trailers had me worried. But saw it last night. Solid characterizations, a good sense of superheroics, and it moved at a nice clip. Members of the audience applauded at the end (and no, wiseass, not because the movie had come to an end). The complaint above about "why would he be able to leap higher when only his senses were heightened": ever read a comic book? We're supposed to believe that scrawny little Robin can whup a dozen thugs just because he's gotten some acrobatic training. You've got to suspend disbelief; otherwise, we'd have a kid who was horribly burned by radioactive waste and died in the hospital shortly thereafter, not a superhero. The complaints about black Kingpin: get over yourselves. Michael Clarke Duncan was perfectly fine, though perhaps not given enough to do. So what if they change the ethnicity of the character? If it's a good actor -- and he is -- that's the important part. And what's up with the Affleck haters? What, are all you repressing your secret lust for him and turning it into anger? Sure, he's been in some crap, but what actor hasn't? And his track record is still pretty damned good... Dazed and Confused, Mallrats, Glory Daze, Chasing Amy, Good Will Hunting, Shakespeare in Love, Dogma... sure there are the Bounces and the Pearl Harbors in his credit list, but the flaws in those movies ain't his fault, folks.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 5:43:39 PM CST

    Manofelt

    by general sarcasm

    I do not believe for a second that you have actually seen this movie. Nothing in your post even remotely offers any proof you have seen it, you are just bashing it because you want to hate it for some reason or another.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 5:47:12 PM CST

    Stanley Tweedle

    by general sarcasm

    Get a life! Do you get upset when somebody writes mcdonalds instead of McDonald's? Well.... do you?

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  • Feb 11, 2003 5:52:00 PM CST

    just a thought

    by sm shadow

    Why are some people acting like the new X2 trailer is like the second coming of Christ and shitting all over DD?From what I read of the trailer in the description it's not THAT great so stop creaming your pants over ir.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 6:17:48 PM CST

    people who read trailer descriptions instead of watching them an

    by the killer-goat

    well, I gotta go take a dump.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 8:18:12 PM CST

    I saw DD Lastnight.

    by redfive

    If you dont believe me ill post the phone number to the theatre and you can ask me anything youd like.The funniest/best part is when foggy and matt are at the party with elektra and the kingpin and foggys on the starcase rubbing the statues boobs,very funny...and sad thats the funniest part.Foggy was the best part of the film but besides that everything else sucked.

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  • Feb 11, 2003 9:26:37 PM CST

    I'm the doofus that mispelled DareDevil (spoilers)

    by bickle-t

    I see I pissed everyone off by mispelling DareDevil (I wrote this at midnight last night - cut a brother some slack!) I was only being vague to avoid ruining this for anyone who is looking forward to seeing it. Here's a few good things about the film. I won't go on anymore about Elektra, but she's really the best thing in the film. The way they "show" how DareDevil can "see" is very cool. One of the best sequences has him "seeing" Elektra for the first time by having her stand out in the rain (he can see her due to the vibrations/sounds of the water hitting her. They also show his "sight" while in a bar fight early in the movie. Even though it didn't really belong (or help the story move along) Jon Favreau has some good one-liners (the Sanford and Son punchline sounds like something from "Swingers". Colin Ferrel did the most with what little screen time he was given. He's really just a gun-for-hire by Kingpin. Kingpin is a one-note character in this movie. We see that he killed Matt's father early in the film, and that he's "the Kingpin". That's really it. What's truly wrong with the movie, is that Matt never develops. It's just a simple action movie, without any true character developement. In the end, there's a grand finale fight sequence between Kingpin and DareDevil that just didn't do much for me. The lines are read overly heavy-handed, and when DareDevil has a chance to get his vengance......well, it just didn't add up for me. So Talk-Backers, forgive Mr. Vague-Sleepy-Headed-Mispeller.

    and by the time he does "the deed" (comic readers know what I'm referring to) we're at the climax. Ben Affleck - this movie just wasn't meant for him. Sorry. I swear, he look kind of silly in the costume. All you can see is that ass-chin sticking out of the bottom of the mask!

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  • Feb 11, 2003 10:53:27 PM CST

    CROM!! The MUSIC Fucking Killed My Ass!!

    by chewblacca

    Despite a few minor changes in lore,I really dug DD.Sadly,it loses serious points for the painful use of that shit that passes for popular music these days.Those shitty songs wrecked every attempt to create a mood.I know that a funeral is sad-I don't need some lame ballad to get that across.Or watered down agro pop during a training montage.Why,oh why,do they do this to perfectly good movies?I'll take a proper score every time.

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  • Feb 12, 2003 12:01:07 AM CST

    Saw the movie! It was amazing! SPOILERS! SID

    by sid kibbitz

    The directors have decided to go an all new approach to this one, using such successful formulas we have seen in BAT-MAN AND ROBIN and PLANET OF THE APES! Throwing out the comic book adaptation and still do things in a refreshing unoriginal style that keeps you guessing. You are kept on the edge of your seats wondering if you

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  • Feb 12, 2003 12:34:56 AM CST

    Mandy Moore would have made a better Kingpin

    by avril_lavigne

    I shat myself watching this movie. Dont see it.

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  • Feb 12, 2003 5:54:35 AM CST

    More Batman Returns = Daredevil

    by gheorghe zamfir

    Not only do we have the aforementioned "love interest with a tragic fate, a seriously fucked up villain, darkness, blood," but we also have the dealio with King Pin being the tycoon-like character who hires Bullseye, kinda like Walken's character taking on Penguin, that one's a bit of a stretch, but I thought I'd throw it out there. But the similarities must be superficial at best, as I've yet to actually read a review that brings up this point.

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  • Feb 12, 2003 6:22:40 AM CST

    "...he's no guy pierce who most of us agree with is DD,..."

    by eugene o

    I'll bet Mr. Pierce is glad that you idiots don't run his career!

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  • Feb 12, 2003 11:18:56 AM CST

    First, how can the guy "love" Daredevil...

    by mrcere

    If he doesn't know Dare and Devil form ONE WORD to make the name. Second, the work Brian Michael Bendis is doing RIGHT NOW on the book is very good, even Miller good. Miller's best might be better, but Bendis is great month to month and now bi-week to bi-week. I still can't help but feel uneasy about this moving bombing at the box office but I at least have hope that I will enjoy it.

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  • Feb 12, 2003 11:42:18 AM CST

    My Little Soapbox

    by crywolf69

    I visit this site each and every day. However, after reading about 2 million movie reviews I have come to only one conclusion.
    Apparently there will NEVER EVER be a movie that someone on this site likes, appreciates or admires. Nothing! Zero! Even if someone says they like a movie, they are compelled to follow their statement with something they HATED about the movie that always counter-balances it. Even great epic movies like Lord of the Rings or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon get ripped a new asshole when AICN reviews them. The whole point of a review is to say if it is GOOD or BAD. If I paid attention to all of the reviews on this site, I wouldn't go see another movie ever again in my whole life! Plus! the only movies you people ever give props to are movies that were made years and years ago. Everyone creams over Empire Strikes Back, but if it came out tomorrow you'd all say it was a waste of time and to avoid it at all cost because Harrison Ford can't act, C3-PO is gay and Mark Hamil has an ass on his chin!

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  • Feb 12, 2003 12:03:19 PM CST

    How about King Pin?

    by kid z

    ... or Hawk Eye???... Yellow Jacket?

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  • Feb 12, 2003 12:06:02 PM CST

    Oh...

    by kid z

    ... GUY PIERCE is Daredevil? Good... great, in fact 'cause he sure as frickin' hell wasn't that "Time Machine" chap!

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  • Feb 12, 2003 2:21:17 PM CST

    I fucking hate

    by surf ninja

    i fucking hate how other movie sites tell me that they have new pics or new movie reviews on their front page. but when i click on the link, theres a link to go on another website. SUPERHEROHYPE, IM LOOKING AT YOU! thanks aint it cool for keepin it cool.

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  • Feb 12, 2003 2:55:08 PM CST

    Brian_De_Man is stupider....

    by gwynlyn

    Sweet jebus you guys! If you're going to knock the intellectual and grammatical prowess of the reviewers, you should at least check your own comments over before submitting.

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  • Feb 12, 2003 3:11:00 PM CST

    MORIARTY: You want a *detailed* complaint?

    by the grin

    Moriarty:
    I've agreed with about 99 out of 100 of your reviews... and you're the opinion I trust most when it comes to the big flicks.

    But this time, I came down on the other side of the fence. - - -

    Folks, you might be surprised how a film with a villain called

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  • Feb 12, 2003 4:22:45 PM CST

    Correction, the Grin

    by ribbons

    It's like a bad stack of pancakes, ruining a completely good bottle of syrup. Ahh...I love America. "Bacon that sausage!"

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  • Feb 12, 2003 4:22:56 PM CST

    I completely agree with Crywolf69

    by defiant

    There is no movie ever that talkbackers people on this site will not rip to shreads.

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  • A light bulb has come on and I have come to the conclusion that if it doesn't involve CGI or a comic book/graphic novel character/s you dreary lot are not fecking interested, look at all the other topics on this web page, some have only about 10 posts.......but god almighty if it's about which dysfunctional dumb ass leather clad joyboy superhero is the best then your crawling all over each to get your tuppence worth of drivel printed on the screen......at least 90% of the comments I read are absolutley crap.......and I mean laxative level crap..... sorry but that's what I think......rather than "choking your chicken" every night over these comic book characters, get out more, take up a wee hobby, but don't and I mean don't rip your knitting over these films......because like buses another one will be along in a minute.........And I fecking guarantee you when it does it will be just as bad as the last one, and you'll all be sitting at your keyboards typing...."this actor is crap","that costume ain't right", he's a wank director", "its not like the book"...............just get a fecking grip.......arrgh......just get a grip alright! Ta Ta.

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