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The latest on Snake Plissken!

Hey folks, Harry here with the latest on Snake Plissken. Production IG is indeed doing the animation on Snake, and the first place that you'll get a gander at Snake all anime looking is on the upcoming ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK Dvd... you may notice that Target and other chains are beginning to blow out their old EFNY dvds - because they now the new one is coming, and the new one will give us a look at what Snake is up to. I've heard that the anime will have the voices of several cool actors (I'm working on it) so hopefully Production IG will do a real bang up job on it!

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is new news, but it was news to me.

I was at the Creation Convention last weekend in Pasadena and on Friday I saw a panel for Snake Plissken. On the panel was Debra Hill, the Hurricane Comic guys, two people from Maverick, the writers of the Snake Plissken anime and two people from Production IG.

Escape from New York is one of my favorite movies, so I was already excited about Snake making a comeback, but I hadn't heard who was making the anime until now. Production IG, the people who made Ghost in the Shell are making the Snake anime! How cool is that? The woman from Production IG said that not only are they working on it, but this would actually be the first co-production between a Japanese anime studio and American producers. I'm guessing that's what the guys from Maverick were doing there. They said they were looking for a 2005 release and that everyone was very excited.

Debra Hill said that different Snake stories would be told through different mediums. The anime will take place after Escape from LA, while the comic will start the day after Escape from New York. Stories like how Snake lost his eye and the Battle of Leningrad will come out in the videogame. She also said that Fabian Nicieza is writing the books.

It's great to see some producers in Hollywood working so closely with people on the comic and anime side. First the Wachowski brothers with the Animatrix and now this. Hopefully this is just the beginning of a trend.

I hope this is useful.

You can call me Jimmy James.

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  • Feb. 5, 2003, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Sweet...I didn't know there was going to be a Snake Plissken ani

    by Sod Off Baldric

    Gotta love Escape From New York, even if I am pissed that I have to buy it on DVD again. Oh well...live and learn.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Obviously not then...

    by Salem Hanna

    Beaten by a minute. Escape from New York is genius. Escape from LA is not.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 7:15 p.m. CST

    more padding than a wonderbra....

    by liquidtmd

    I can't be the only person to feel a slight disdain for this, as well as the animatrix projects. It seems to be oh so popular at the moment to add 'backstories', 'histories' and general padding to otherwise fantastic stand alone stories. I implore you all to think where it will end. "Hey people, watch this new cartoon to find out what Clint Eastwood's 'man with no name' character from the dollars trilogy was up to when he was young - discover his atypical abused childhood that forced him to roam the West". Or hey "lets all see what the biker gang from Dawn of The Dead was upto BEFORE they beseiged the mall - yeah thats a neat angle". Such additional products only serve to detract from the simplicity of the original. Some things shouldn't be explained, the mystery should remain just that. It is shameful that modern cinema is finding more ways, like this one, to rob audiences of using their imagination. I'd like to hear others views on this so use this forum to voice your views - and get away from the incredible amounts of flaming that has slightly overwhelmed this board of late. Its very easy to be cynical - so be constructive!

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Funny, I always thought he'd be taller...

    by inkymae

    Snake Plisken is the coolest character ever to come out of two bad movies.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 7:42 p.m. CST

    must... resist urge

    by ArchDiver

    That Snake is back is a good thing. (great, keep resisting) I look forward to giving the anime a look or two. I don't think that I will be very interested in the comic, though. (...musn't... cave...) What platform is the VG going to be on? (ARRGHH!) FFP!FTUTSA! TFCS!!! AD out

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Welcome To The Human Race

    by Son Of Batboy

    Escape rom L.A is damn entertaining. Vastly underrated and misunderstood by people expecting a film similar in tone to the first one. It was obviously a send up of the previous film and action films in general not to mention L.A. Great characters like Buschemi's weaselly "map to the stars" Eddie or Pam Grier's Carjack Malone. Then there's that freaky scene with Bruce Campbell as the Surgeon General and that fantastic shot clock basketball game. Plus it has one of coolest endings ever. I was expecting something really shitty based on advance word and turned out surprised by how entertaining it was. I like both movies and I'll definitely check out the new stuff.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 7:47 p.m. CST

    If Carpenter Hadn't Fucked Up EFLA ....

    by CHEWBLACCA

    ...none of this would be nessesary.At least Debra Hill cares about Plisken.Carpenter clearly doesn't give a shit about his greatest creation.To be fair, EFLA has a strong beginning and end.Too bad everything in between is complete shit.I do look forward to these projects,though.They sure as hell couldn't be any lamer than LA.-SHALLUP!

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 7:57 p.m. CST

    "You Gotta Be Kidding Me."

    by CHEWBLACCA

    Buscemi said what we all were thinking while watching EFLA.C'mon.Basketball?Surfing? CHRIST!A load of shit.EFLA is just a weak retelling of EFNY.I'm note gonna shit all over other talkbckers for liking LA.I just felt jipped.Plisken is a strong enough character to throw into any situation.Why tell the same story twice?

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Carpenter could have made the ultimate Carpenter movie...

    by Declan_Swartz

    if only my friend could have got in contact with him before making Ghost of Mars. My friend's great idea was a mature adaptation of Bravestarr (www.bravestarr.net). He had all of the Carpenter elements worked into it. One of his great ideas was to raise the funding by way of the various Indian casinos, but as I just read today Rick Shroder had the same plan: http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/archive/fullnews.cgi?newsid1044454966,15989,

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 8:12 p.m. CST

    "What did I teach you?!?"

    by jimimack

    Seriously, they need to add the original beginning to EFNY as an optional version on the DVD. And keep Carpenter away from anything but the Director's commentary, he hasn't done any good work since They Live. Dude is like box office cancer. Can't wait to see the comics, they should be kool.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 8:47 p.m. CST

    ESCAPE FROM IRAQ

    by misterWINKIE

    whats next? how many more places he going to excape from....el snake-o el scape-o from el mexico? si.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Snake, one of the ultimate movie badasses

    by manwiththedogs

    alright, Escape from LA sucked, but 'New York was Russell at the top of his game. If the anime can top THAT it will be great, if not, so what?

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Remember what they did to NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD!!!!!

    by Mr_T_Rulez

    For those of you who do not remember, some asshole recut NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD and added some "backstory", a new soundtrack and literally raped the masterpiece created by George A. Romero. It was a atrocity. Now just think of what they could do to EFNY, given the right motivation! Shit, they could digitally insert that guy from KUNG POW and have him be SNAKE, or worse ... they could let CARROT TOP do the voice for SNAKE in the ANIME!!! I mean, this shit has to end! SNAKE was cool in EFNY, o.k. in EFLA, and he will suck in anything else directed by the hack named JOHN CARPENTER. All of CARPENTER'S work has been shit, as of late. THE THING kicked ass, but not because of CARPENTER, but in spite of him. Rob Bottin stole the fucking show with his bad-ass effects that CGI could only mimic, but never duplicate. HALLOWEEN was cool the first time, but SUCKED ASS during every sequel. Vampires was cool, but only because of James Woods. Anyways, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY CHILDHOOD, and leave EFNY alone. I would appreciate a commentary and a deluxe DVD treatment like THE THING got. But other than that, KURT RUSSEL, go home and fuck Goldie some more and leave action flicks to the pros. Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarintino can direct, I just wish Robert would HURRY THE FUCK UP WITH ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO and I wish KILL BILL would open tomorrow!

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 9:21 p.m. CST

    A#1

    by Gummistuff

    we think for the snake to be fun time city for you and your fine fine chums. This is for the enjoyment of all, in that it is a different style of enjoyment from the standard. Please wonder in the might of the Plissken and you will find our brand of fun to be enjoyable, this I can tell you!

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 9:22 p.m. CST

    john carpenter is an embaressment!

    by mooncake

    carpenter is nothing but dog sh*t these days. he's lost it long time ago. after that donkey *ss movie called GHOSTS FROM MARS i'm surprised he still has work in hollywood. let snake plisskin rest in peace because ESCAPE FROM LA sucked donkey balls!!

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Escape from the WTC

    by Mr_T_Rulez

    yea ... put SNAKE in the WTC after the plane hits and see if he gets out alive!

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 10:34 p.m. CST

    I guess it'll never happen...

    by BigTuna

    But I do recall an interview with Carpenter in 96' when EFLA was coming out and Carpenter said he'd love to do a third Escape film called "Escape from the Earth". Since EFLA didn't do too well I guess that idea is down the toilet but an intertesting idea.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 10:42 p.m. CST

    new york was great L.A. was shit

    by Ayando

    This might be good. I.G.'s the best animation studio around and if they can get Mamoru Oshi involved (shouldn't be too hard seeing as he runs the company), then they might actually have something here. Depends on the script though. Probably should have let I.G. handle that as well.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 11:04 p.m. CST

    oops--- escape from my underpants II

    by sundown

    meant to also say that this sounds scary...fine line between ultimate edition Cammerons Abyss and the Night of the Living Dead crapfest. I like the idea of an anime but lets do something cool with the character more than the escape thing...put him into a crazy situation not just a rip off of the first one...LA sucked so bad and his character is so cool...and besides didn't he pretty much doom the world in the first one...why not take it from there... For the record Carpenter rocked back in the day- Big Trouble- great comedy Thing - great sci fi Escape - great action Halloween great horror..not many...not any could duplicate that but everything since has been awful MEMOIRS SUCKED and failed to be even as lame as Hollow man. Madness was ok and Vampires was super uninspired and a mere shadow of the source material...everything else he's done has been insanely bad. Thats just my opinion but at least its past fettaculars bedtime so we don't have to read his banal crap.

  • Feb. 5, 2003, 11:17 p.m. CST

    Hulk Hogan is Snake Plisken in "Escape from Stamford..."

    by PoopsMcGee

    "I don't give a f*** about your Wrestlemania...or Vince, brother." But seriously, this sounds pretty cool, especially the Snake video game (perhaps based on GTA3's engine?).

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 12:05 a.m. CST

    What video game? Is my idea being stolen already?

    by Monkey_King

    A Plissken anime would be awesome, with Kurt's voice of course. Carpenter really screwed his fans by lying to them in regards to the L.A. film. For years he stated that if a sequel to EFNY was made it would be either by a younger director or it would not be a rehash of the first film. Where'd the young director go with his better script? Plissken on a surfboard and packin' heat only minutes after being shot in the same leg from EFNY, then riding a wave to Steve Buscemi's convertible? What kind of shit is Carpenter on and when is he coming down? Your fans deserve better. Hopefully, your ex-girlfriend Debra will do better by this anime and comic series. Word to the wise: ignore the events in the L.A. film and come up with some new shit worthy of Nick Castle and John's first film story.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 1:10 a.m. CST

    Comic by Fabian Nicieza?!?

    by Fred4sure

    I wouldn't let that hack write my dog's inner monologue.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 1:52 a.m. CST

    Clevland

    by Blueline Geek

    In EFLA Snake talkes about how Carjack screwed him in CLevland. La wasnt so bad I mean what about the Pschyo Bevirly Hills Plastic surgen (Bruce the Fn man Campbell)Directers get pissed when people edit there movies to make them tame but they do it on DVD to make it better for us. Screw that. UNCUT UNCUT UNCUT

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Pliscan vs. Plissken

    by Fuck_France

    Anybody know why his name was spelled "Pliscan" in EFNY, but Plissken everafter? I consider "Pliscan" the real one, as LA sucked ass.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Don't forget Carpenter is aware of the criticism.

    by Declan_Swartz

    http://www.theofficialjohncarpenter.com/pages/press/latimes010823.html I think Carpenter and Russell wanted to do another satire with EFLA, like they had successfully done with Big Trouble. Unortunately they forgot one the thing... W.D. Richter. Poor Richter is trying to make a live-action Banzai show when he should follow Snake's lead and go anime(Official Banzai site: www.banzai-institute.com). Anime was created for incredible writers like Richter and Earl Mac Rauch to fully express their insane world and its inhabitants.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Maybe Pliscan is too close to PissCan, a moniker I've been label

    by earthworm

    And yes, I think I'd agree that this sort of thing is padding, but as long as it stays in seperate formats, anime, games, shit maybe even a BOOK, its acceptable. Many people like to know what happened to their favourite characters before or after films, its kind of comforting and make the whole universe (of the story) seem more real. And for those that prefer their storytelling undiluted, stick to the movie itself. Saying that, I'd have preferred the universe of EFNY to remain real rather than that cinematic cock that was EFLA.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 4:35 a.m. CST

    WTC

    by Villa Restil

    I guess I've seen Escape From New York too many times because a day or so after the World Trade Center attack I thought to myself, "Where's Snake Plisken gooing to land?"

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Friends don't let friends watch Anime

    by Villa Restil

    I wonder if Snake's one eye is going to be way too big. Maybe his eyepatch will have to be way too big also. I like Snake, but this isn't the greatest news. Anime kinda bites.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 6:50 a.m. CST

    EFLA

    by radio1_mike

    EFLA was not that bad, it's great sin was coming up as a sequel to EFNY. I don't care about anime Snake... Just does not hit me anywhere. Now, if we are talking SEQUELS and ANIME, how Big Trouble in Little China...?

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 8:31 a.m. CST

    EFLA

    by KajiC

    I've always wanted to ask Carpenter if he meant EFLA to be a parody of EFNY or not, because that's how I watch it. It hits the same points all the way down the line, but where they were dark and grim in EFNY, they are goofy in EFLA. Kind of a surreal, California twist on the whole thing. But if he wants to make the third movie, I'll watch it.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Waitasecond...

    by rev_skarekroe

    You mean Manhatten DIDN'T become a maximum security prison in 1997? sk

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Mr_T_Rulez - before you go bashing Carpenter:

    by TV CASUALTY

    They Live. Escape From New York. Big Trouble in Little China. The Thing. Halloween. Assault on Precinct 13. Learn some fucking history. The man is a genius. A genius in a rut recently, sure. But show a little fucking resect. And your WTC crack was just tasteless.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 9:32 a.m. CST

    LA rocked

    by Veidt

    Unlike a lot of fans I love the humor of EFLA and I love the fact that with a bigger budget they were able to put Plissken in more outrageous action scenarios. And the ending is a classic. It's not as perfect a flick as NY but it's a cool one just the same.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Incidentally, my last post should say show some RESPECT, not res

    by TV CASUALTY

    but since the talkback order is fucked, this post will make no sense. FIX IT PLEASE.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 10:51 a.m. CST

    "I don't give a sh*t about your president."

    by Kirk's Toupee

    Any Snake news is good news to me. Carpenter needs to make "I am Legend"...And I don't care if Russell is older than the age of Nevell in the book. He'd be perfect for the role. Just avoid that piece of shit script that has been floating around the net for a few years.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 11:29 a.m. CST

    MR T, pull your head our of your ass

    by slone13

    How can you even watch movies with it up there?

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 11:29 a.m. CST

    This is certain interesting and encouraging, but...

    by WarDog

    I really wonder WHERE they can go in the saga of Snake Plissken from the end of EFLA. That film was disappointing to say the least. Made too many years after EFNY for most people to care, twisted into an over-the-top, anti-conservative screed by Carpenter (use Western Union if you're gonna send a message, John!) and an ending which was, simply, FUCKED. Snake condemns the WHOLE GOD-DAMNED WORLD to being knocked back two centuries. Well, thank you very fucking much, Piss-head! If EFLA had not fucked up so badly I might even want to see this anime. 'Twould be far better if they dealt with his pre-EFNY adventures. Now THAT would be worth a tale or two.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Wardog, You Ignorant Slut

    by omarthesnake

    EFLA too preachy and leftwing? Yeah, sure, whatever, but i don't see anything wrong with a director actually having an opinion and expressing it. Complain about that part of EFLA if you wish, but don't dis that ending! Three word explanation: Snake... is... nihilistic. He knocks civilization back on its fat bloated ass because he prefers the old west way of living (tell me he's not a Clint Eastwood-type-rogue-Western-silent-guy-grim-gruff-gunslinger) and because he doesn't give a shit how it effects the rest of the world. "Welcome to the human race"... he's taking technology and tossing it aside, making it obsolete simply because HE CAN. Was it a nice thing to do? No. Is Snake nice? No.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Cool

    by Barry Duffman

    Can't wait, big fan.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 2:20 p.m. CST

    wtf, over?

    by mista fong

    to the idiot who said the presidents plane hit the wtc: 1) what movie were you watching? it was clearly (even in the lame now, cool then wire frame cg simulation) NOT the wtc... 2) the plane (yeah, yeah, model) used as air force 1 (david 14 for those of you who actually paid attention) was no where near the size of a full passenger jet like the ones that Allah's felching boys rammed into the wtc, and the towers probably would have survived the hits just fine even though most of carpenters stuff has sadly been shite the last few years, i'd still give Big Trouble 2 a chance...i'm sick of being stuck here in the hell of only having one big trouble in little china! (chinese have a lot of hells, jack) if they screw it up and turn out a craptastic turdfest? then egg shen can use some of his peasant magic and send jc to the hell of the oily dragon...

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 2:22 p.m. CST

    OrionsAngel, the towers DID survive the impacts, as designed...

    by philosophist

    but not the jet-fuel inferno, sadly an unforeseen danger

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 2:57 p.m. CST

    L.A.-a remake, not a sequel

    by Precinct13

    "Escape From LA" was never intended to be a full out sequel, but rather a remake of EFNY. Afterall, it had been 15 years since the original, and most of the movie going public had never heard of or had forgotten who Snake Plissken was. Carpenter was emulating his hero, Howard Hawks, who was known for remaking his own movies (who remade "Rio Bravo" twice). It always kills me when I hear people bitch and moan about scenes in LA being too similar to NY, as if Carpenter and Co. didn't realize that when they were making it! While I certainly find EFNY to be far superior, EFLA has it's own charm and certainly wasn't the disaster some of you are making it out to be. I honestly think it will stand the test of time like most of Carpenter's other films (I say "most" as I wouldn't dare include "Ghosts of Mars" as one of those films).

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 4:45 p.m. CST

    TV CASUALTY is gay

    by Mr_T_Rulez

    Come on, dude. John Carpenter has SUCKED DICK as of late. He is no Robert Rodriquez, I'll tell you that. THE THING kicked ass ... but because of Rob Bottin. Learn some fucking history and watch some fucking movies. John was cool for a minute, but he has become a loser. He has totally fucked his resume with half-ass flicks. If he wants to do something cool, why doesn't he do a VAMPIRES sequel without BON JOVI. James Woods needs to do the sequel and maybe he could visit the TITTY TWISTER and meet SETH GEKO! That would fuckin' rule! I'd pay to see that flick! But aside from that, I think that SNAKE has done enough and he should be left alone. No more destroying my childhood memories. And that WTC crack I made ... FUCK YOU if you don't like it. Cocksucker.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 5:35 p.m. CST

    'Invisible Man' DVD campaign!

    by evilbaby

    Check it out boys! After "Assault On Precinct 13" gets the SE treatment in March, "Memoirs of an Invisible Man" will be the ONLY John Carpenter feature film never released on DVD. Please go to the following web site and help get it released! http://members.tripod.com/~evilbaby/InvisibleMan.html

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Actually... BTILC was originally the sequel to BB

    by thebatman

    As I understand it, the story for Big Trouble In Little China was orignally intended to be the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai, but it ended up getting re-worked.

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 9:57 p.m. CST

    A message to all of you from one of the anime Writers...

    by coreymitchel

    Hey Everyone... I just wanted to assure you all that the script for the anime is very different from the original two movies. It pretty much shows the entire country and is an action packed flick. The bad guys are extremely bad (you'll have to see it to understand) and I think you all will have a great ride when it is complete. By the way, John is an incredible director/writer/composer and you all must understand that many times his projects that are not so good are not that way because of John. There are a lot of things and people's opinions that go into making movies and help them turn into things that John may not be so proud of. However, with the anime, this is not the case. John, Debra, Will, and myself were able to do exactly what we wanted. I am a huge Bruce Lee fan and Ninja Scroll fan and you guys are going to get some fun things coming at you in the future! By the way, I'll do my best to get the script on the web as soon as I am allowed to. Then you guys won't have to take my word for it. Corey Mitchel

  • Feb. 6, 2003, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Carpenter and stuff

    by erichg

    Having Snake back in an animated adventure is clearly good news . . . Escape From LA was a horrible mistake. Look, I'm sick of people apologizing for that flick and trying to justify it's existence. Whether it was intended as satire or a clever nod to Hawks by re-making the original - WHO CARES!!!! It was a bad movie. The CGI effects were some of the worst I have ever viewed (Christ, the scene where Plisken pilots his submarine is terrible. The damn FX looked horrid and didn't even match the live action cut-aways.). Also, the intentional humor was flat and the action did not have any edge to it. A Plisken movie should have a discernible vibe - like a spaghetti western or a gritty 70's action film. Carpenter and Russell decided to make EFLA into shallow eye candy and it did not come together. It's almost painful to watch. I'm hopeful that the anime project (along with the comic book) will bring dignity back to the franchise and not insult fans of the original picture . . . That is really my biggest problem with EFLA - it showed little consideration for the people who turned the initial entry into a success. The follow-up, firstly needed to show respect to the core audience. Now, if it was written and directed well enough, crossover success could have been attained. Instead, EFLA alienated it's base audience, didn't gain momentum, failed to pull in new viewers and died at the box office. In terms of Carpenter himself. He has made too many fine movies to totally discount him as a director. God, Assault on Precinct 13, The Thing, Halloween, EFNY, Starman, Big Trouble in Little China, even The Fog - that's great genre, auteur filmmaking. Maybe he is in a slump - he'll bounce back. I thought Ghosts of Mars (although not a great movie by any measure) has a stipped down, back to basics-type of film for Carpenter. It suffered mostly from some slightly messy action scenes (I mean, look at Little China - the planning and choreography of those action scene is amazing. Ghosts does not come close to that film.) . . . But, it could be the one that points Carpenter back in the correct direction. Give the guy a break, he deserves it.