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Dr. Hfuhruhurr Hates Ben Affleck... But He Loooooooves DAREDEVIL!!

Published at:  Feb 01, 2003 7:49:23 AM CST

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Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.



I was curious to see how an avowed Ben Affleck hater might react to this film. As strange as it might seem to say that a superhero film contains an actor’s best work, that might be the case here, and so I’m eager to see how the anti-Affleck fanboys react to the movie.



This review, from our good friend and fellow Evil Genius Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr, is the first indicator of how things might go, and if I were 20th Century Fox, I’d be cautiously optimistic. Check this out...



Greetings. Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr here, returning after a long hiatus during which I had to perform my patented Cranial Screwtop Method upon my own head. I am happy to report everything went well, although some of you may doubt it when you here what I have to say about Daredevil.

Let me begin by saying this: I HATE BEN AFFLECK. And hate is not a word I'm fond of using or that I apply indiscriminately. My father smoked five packs of cigarettes a day and died from cancer. Yet I don't hate smoking. I caught my girlfriend in bed with my best friend. Yet I don't hate them. What do I hate? Taxes, religious fundamentalists and Ben Affleck.

Words can't begin to convey how much I loath this so-called actor. I despise him so much that every morning after taking my ritual shit, I look down in the bowl and name my turd "Ben" before flushing it.

Let me also say this: I LOVE THE DAREDEVIL COMICS. As a kid I was all about Spidey. When I got into high school, I was all about DD. I can rattle off all of the writers and artists and can recall storylines and cover art at will. I liked DD because he seemed to be the most real of all the superheroes. So real that it seems weird to call him a superhero. And he had a pretty fucked up psyche.

I've been dying to see the film, yet I've been dreading it at the same time. I was pretty sure that Ben was going to ruin it. That he was going to be stiff, annoying and Mr. Magooing his way through all of his "look, ma, I'm blind" scenes.

Well, Mr. Affleck, having seen the film, I have this to say to you: there will be no turd named after you tomorrow morning. I know when I'm wrong and I'm man enough to admit it. And as embarrassed and loathe as I am to say this (and I know many of you won't believe it until you see it for yourself): Ben Affleck became Matt Murdock. Almost instantly. And he gave an amazing performance, the best performance of his career. I know that's not saying much, so let's say this: he gave the best performance of both his and Matt Damon's careers.

Okay. Start your talkback rants now. Believe me, if I had been reading this before seeing the film, I'd be going apeshit myself: Ben Affleck becomes Matt Murdock!? What, are you? Blind and stupid!? Do you work for him? Burn in hell Dr. H! I know it's going to be hard to swallow. So rail against me and rail against Affleck and AICN and Marvel and whoever else you want to rail against. Get it all out of your system and then... GET OFF YOUR FUCKING ASS AND GO SEE DAREDEVIL!

This is the best comic book/superhero movie since Burton's original BATMAN (and it's without the flaws of that film). The comparisons will be easy to make: both heroes are relatively normal men driven to become vigilante crimefighters after their parents are murdered. Both are borderline psychos themselves. Both films are dark in tone. Yet Daredevil succeeds where Batman fails. DAREDEVIL'S darkness is real and the movie is all about the man behind the mask. The villains are not allowed to take over the movie asylum. In fact, this is the first superhero movie where you honestly feel what it is like to be the hero. If SUPERMAN made you believe that a man can fly, this one will make you believe that a man can hurt, both physically and in the depths of his soul.

But what about SPIDER-MAN? And X-MEN, you may ask. Loved them both. Spider-Man's first half blew me away. But I thought the film lost some steam and resonance in the second half. The script was pretty weak once Parker officially became the supersuited Spider-Man. I loved X-MEN too. But it wasn't a very personal film for me. I had never been into the comics and I couldn't emotionally latch onto any one character.

So I'm going with DAREDEVIL. It's solid on all fronts. It's relatable and it's real. And it's the first superhero film that really, truly let's you inside the heroes head and let's you know what it's like to be in the his boots.

[If you don't want any spoilers, you can stop here. Although I promise not to give away any big ones.]

Writer/Director Mark Steven Johnson let's you know right away what kind of film he's making. When we first see Daredevil, he is battered, broken, clinging to a cross at the top of a cathedral, his blood dripping down over the religious imagery on a stained glass window.

He then takes us to the Hell's Kitchen of Matt's youth, to the moment when he loses his vision. And believe me, when young Matt wakes up in the hospital and discovers that he is blind and that his hearing has become supersensitive, you will know exactly what it is like. Johnson and his Effects team have devised a way for the audience to be inside Matt's head. To "see" what he sees and hear what he hears. Call it DeDeVision. It's amazing. One of the most breathtaking innovations you will ever experience on film. It's interactive. And it's mind blowing. And heartbreaking. Because as cool as it may be to experience it on the screen, you know that a life of "seeing" like this is a life lived in Hell.

This is a dark, dark film. It is probably one of the hardest PG-13 films you'll ever see. And as anyone who knows DD knows: that's the way it had to be made. Still, I am amazed that Johnson was allowed to make the film this way. From the opening scene until the very end, Johnson pulls no punches. People bleed, people die. When DD gets home from a night of fighting crime, he pops Vicadin like it's candy. (When you see this scene, you will not see Ben Affleck. You will see Matt Murdock. I promise.)

You will see Murdock taking out his anger and confusion on "the bad guys." There is no witty banter and no cool capture. There are moments where you'll squirm, hoping that DD pulls back a little. "Geez, DD, lighten up, he's had enough." But DD does not lighten up. And this becomes the thematic soul-searching core of the film. Is DD a bad guy? He's not even sure.

This is the UNFORGIVEN of superhero films. Conventions are turned on their head, twisted, questioned. After a jury sets a rapist free, DD chases him down that very night. Beats the shit out of him. The guys falls onto a subway track as a train approaches. Does DD give him a hand and turn him over to the police like every good superhero is supposed to do? Nope. He flashes the guy an evil grin and says: "See that light at the end of the tunnel? It's not heaven. It's the C-train." And then he watches almost gleefully as the train runs over the guy.

In almost every superhero film, there's another conventional scene where the villain has the hero cornered and helpless. Yet the villain never unmasks the hero. That scene drove me nuts in SPIDER-MAN. Goblin has Spidey against the ropes, helpless, yet doesn't seem to be the least bit curious as to who's under the mask. In DAREDEVIL, no one ever hesitates to unmask DD. That's what I mean by this being a film grounded in reality. People act real, do real things. Even if they are wearing silly costumes. (FYI: The costume kicks ass.)

There's another great superhero convention that gets redefined in DAREDEVIL. Matt and Elektra are on a date, having their first kiss. Then Matt hears someone in trouble in the distance. He says he has to leave. She tells him to stay. He hesitates. Then stays. he fucking stays! How fucking cool is that!!??? This is as real as it gets.

Joe Pantoliano also has a small part in a very conventional role: the noisy reporter trying to uncover Daredevil's true identity. He's the Robert Wohl character from BATMAN. And he does uncover the truth. What he does with that info... well, I'm not telling. But it's not the conventional thing.

And now that we're on the subject of supporting players...

Jennifer Garner as Elektra. She's hot, she's sexy, she kicks ass. What more could you ask for? A lot. And she delivers it. This is not the token "hot babe/love interest" thrown into the mix. Her relationship with Matt is the heart and soul of the story, and her place in the unfolding plot is crucial.

Jon Favreau as Foggy. The perfect sidekick or the "Plus 1" as he calls himself. He provides the right amount of comic relief to bring as back from the Dark Place just when we need it.

Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin. Yeah, he was great. But most of all he was subtle. This could easily have become a scenery-chewing role. But Duncan's cool, collected understatement made Kingpin as intimidating and frightening as he has ever been in the comic books. Less is indeed more. However, I still object to the PC-casting. I think that long-standing fictional characters should be treated like real historic figures. Because they are a real part of our history. You wouldn't want a black guy to play Abe Lincoln and you wouldn't want a white guy to play Martin Luther King. Kingpin's a fat white dude. Cast one.

Colin Farrell as Bullseye. Um, did I say less is more a few sentences back? Well, Colin didn't get the memo. This is the over-the-top, scenery-chewing role in the film. But that's okay in this case because Bullseye's personality IS over-the-top. And if you really, really like his performance then don't forget to stay through the credits. Nuff Said.

Notable fanboy cameos: Frank Miller as a corpse. Kevin Smith as a morgue attendant. Stan Lee as Man Standing on Corner reading Variety. And the names of damn near every artist and writer who has ever worked on Daredevil.

Anything I didn't like? Yeah. There were three instances where cheesy WB-TV style pop songs played over what should have been some pretty emotional scenes. The melodramatic songs completely undercut the moment. They belong in TV shows like SMALLVILLE and FELICITY but not in a feature film. And especially not in a dark film like DD. Really, really out-of-place. But, hey, that's nit-picking. Nothing to lose sleep over or get worked up over.

Well, folks, it looks like Marvel has done it again. They've got this whole superhero game figured out. Rule Number One: Find a passionate filmmakers who loves and respect the material. You will actually see and feel Mark Steven Johnson's passion and love in every single frame of this movie.

Rule Number Two: Stay close to the origins and source material. There's a reason the comic's worked and endured decade after decade. Because they got it right! Why, oh, why can't the folks at Warner Brothers/DC accept this simple premise??? The end result is box office gold. And it looks like DAREDEVIL will prove it once more.

Last night’s Pasadena screening was the first time the film was shown for an audience, but I know they’re screening it again tonight. I expect we’ll see more reviews cropping up in the days ahead, and I look forward to running them when they arrive. Until then...



"Moriarty" out.








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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:02:51 AM CST

    FIRST!!!!!!!!

    by booface

    now to read the article

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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:28:57 AM CST

    plant

    by compn

    review is a plant
    see how it runs
    see how it types
    la la la la la la la. review is a plant. have some miracle gro on me...

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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:36:03 AM CST

    Compn, You Raving Moron...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... the good Dr. has posted many times here at AICN before. I know him personally. He's about as far from a plant as a person can be. On the other hand, YOU seem to have the IQ of a vegetable, so be careful who you accuse of being green and leafy...

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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:39:41 AM CST

    reasons for planting

    by compn

    1. he talks like a 12yr-old but has perfect spelling and capitalization. 2. writer/director? hah! 3. burton? of course you mention that, they are both WB films... how about spawn? blade? psh. 4. "redefines" hah, i've heard that made up word in trailers. 5. defending a comic-relief sidekick? egads hes not a wayans' brother is he??? 6. the best performance of ben's career? but you just said you didnt like him... which is it? seen all his movies or hate him? 7. fanboy doesent talk about CGI, EVERY FANBOY TALKS ABOUT THE CGI!!! wheres the cgi talk? -----something not related... the batman movie wasnt supposed to be dark, its just tim's style, it was still the batman story from the 60's... that psycho storyline came in later, like the 90's when they redid all comic charecters to make them all come from broken homes ;p btw, keaton is the best batman, and you know it.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:40:18 AM CST

    I'm willing to give Ben a chance

    by silvio dante

    But I seriously doubt he can top any of Damon's performances. But if the film makes a reviewer claim such things, it can't be all bad. I'm not expecting a miracle, just performance good enough to wipe away the memory of that shit-eating grin at the end of Reindeer Games.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:49:23 AM CST

    daredevil would never....

    by myshkin77

    leave a villian to die on the train tracks. above all else, DD believes in the justice system.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:10:44 AM CST

    Unbreakable

    by dr.zom

    "Unbreakable" is a useless excuse for a film, let a alone a "comic book movie". A mediocre piece of crap parading as a "comic book movie" to make up for the weak narrative. I'd rather watch Flash Gordon. Now that's a comic book movie.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:24:57 AM CST

    Agree with Myshkin

    by boris the blade

    that's more a Punisher move, letting the train get him. That having been said, I'm more enthusiastic about this film now than say, after I heard Ben utter "Time to give the Devil his due..."

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:35:23 AM CST

    DD's extreme measures

    by silvio dante

    In Moriarty's review he said that the subway-track incident happens very early on and later another occurence makes DD question his "ethics". So that's probably the character's arc, he becomes the DD we all know at the end and avoids the dark side, which claimed Battlin' Jack Murdock. Classic.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:39:14 AM CST

    And why does this guy hate Affleck so much?

    by shabbadoo

    Not once does he give us a reason for all that hatred. He's probably too damn chicken shit to call the guy a bad actor (or "former bad actor") because he knows damn well that it just ain't true.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:51:10 AM CST

    This movie is OFFICIALY gonna kick ass

    by thecrowt1000

    I loved Spider-Man and Batman, primarily for there sense in reality. But after reading this review, DareDevil will kick both of there asses. This movie is already my favorite and I haven't even seen it yet...

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:00:38 AM CST

    Batman is the greatest superhero movie ever, followed closely by

    by jim's monster

    Hi all! I've been a big fan of this site for a while, but until this very moment I have been a talk back virgin. I haven't seen Daredevil yet, but I'm on my way to the theater at the first chance I get! I don't hate Affleck-he's sort of a nonthinking man's Paul Rudd (If you're trying to deduce my meaning in that, you're wasting your time-there isn't any). Still, though I loved him in Mallrats and Phantoms, I don't know if I'm ready to believe him as one of the best superheros of all time-but, this article gives me hope, as well as a few chuckles-Ben the turd, indeed. Ebert can't say that and it's too bad. That's funny.
    Anywhoo, Batman is the greatest superhero movie ever!!!! I've seen it over 200 times (editing errors? What editing errors. I'm blind to such things) and I watch it every year on my birthday. I watch Batman Returns at Christmas to get me in the spirit. I watch Schumacher's Batman films every-no wait, I never watch those. Plenty of time for that when I'm burning in Hell I suppose and Satan turns up the torture full blast.
    I also absolutely loved Unbreakable, but I don't know if I'd classify it as a superhero movie anymore than I'd classify Titanic as an action movie (probably I'd classify it as a movie about cashing in on the deaths of hundreds). Yeah, it's definately got a superhero thing going on, but only as a means to an end. Otherwise, where's the big fight between Willis and Jackson at the end and the promise of endless sequels? If Daredevil ends with Afleck calling the FBI on Kingpin, I'm going to be sorely disapointed.
    All right. I've written a bunch and said very little, so I'm going to stop now and get back to my day. I'm just so happy to finally be an official fanboy!!!

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:02:45 AM CST

    So, where's the Superman retraction...

    by dark howler

    ...on all those bullshit rumors you guys here at AICN have been spreading for the past month? Funny how you guys haven't mentioned anything about it yet. And don't try to say that you're still right and everyone else is wrong, because that's a load of cow dung. Both Variety and IGN Filmforce have confirmed that it was a bunch of B.S. You guys need to get new "inside" sources, because the ones you got now suck.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:06:13 AM CST

    Batman is the greatest superhero movie ever, followed closely by

    by jim's monster

    Hi all! I've been a big fan of this site for a while, but until this very moment I have been a talk back virgin. I haven't seen Daredevil yet, but I'm on my way to the theater at the first chance I get! I don't hate Affleck-he's sort of a nonthinking man's Paul Rudd (If you're trying to deduce my meaning in that, you're wasting your time-there isn't any). Still, though I loved him in Mallrats and Phantoms, I don't know if I'm ready to believe him as one of the best superheros of all time-but, this article gives me hope, as well as a few chuckles-Ben the turd, indeed. Ebert can't say that and it's too bad. That's funny.
    Anywhoo, Batman is the greatest superhero movie ever!!!! I've seen it over 200 times (editing errors? What editing errors. I'm blind to such things) and I watch it every year on my birthday. I watch Batman Returns at Christmas to get me in the spirit. I watch Schumacher's Batman films every-no wait, I never watch those. Plenty of time for that when I'm burning in Hell I suppose and Satan turns up the torture full blast.
    I also absolutely loved Unbreakable, but I don't know if I'd classify it as a superhero movie anymore than I'd classify Titanic as an action movie (probably I'd classify it as a movie about cashing in on the deaths of hundreds). Yeah, it's definately got a superhero thing going on, but only as a means to an end. Otherwise, where's the big fight between Willis and Jackson at the end and the promise of endless sequels? If Daredevil ends with Afleck calling the FBI on Kingpin, I'm going to be sorely disapointed.
    All right. I've written a bunch and said very little, so I'm going to stop now and get back to my day. I'm just so happy to finally be an official fanboy!!!

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:17:22 AM CST

    Welcome to the trenches, Jim's Monster

    by silvio dante

    Am I getting this right? You are 200 years old? ;) Gotta agree with Dark Howler: AT LEAST ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT RATNER...that's what I had to do to many geek associates yesterday, because like I fool I believed what I read in AICN. I feel so...used. So...violated. I...I..I trusted you and you used me. All of us. And now you're saying Affleck shines in DD. I just don't know if I can ever believe you again. Sniff.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:34:55 AM CST

    pigs and stuff

    by i_am_a_wookie

    why do reveiwers on this site feel they must give their life story instead of a good decent review? i dont really care if this guy hates Affleck,i wanna know about the film, not (and no ofence) how your father died. im sooo not listening to this review or taking it serious.whats all this shite about rules for comic book movies? what rubbish. stay close to the sourse material? wha? batman was nothing like the original comic, and as a film its really works, the performances are great and the whole gothic imigary is gives the audience a lot to look at. wheras spiderman is probably the closest film adaptation of comic, and to all intents and purposes, sucks. the characters have fuck all motivation despite them trying hard to give them some. the only character in that film with any depth is peter parker, but only cos tobey maguire could do it. the eyecandy was good, but theyu couldnt make it believable. anyway, my point is that to make a good superhero movie is like making anyother good action blockbuster, good script, good dirctors vision and some state of the art sfx.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:41:10 AM CST

    How man without superpowers can jump etc.

    by silvio dante

    Same way a man without superpowers can throw a pencil trough an olive from across the room. Don't know. I thought you were asking abiut radar sense. My bad.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:56:35 AM CST

    Actually he moves a lot like Batman in the comics

    by silvio dante

    And Batman has no superpowers. DD has the billyclub with the wire-thingy, he uses it to swing around. I guess it was always given that in comics guys like Bats and DD are world class acrobats and can do these things. In the film, I dunno. I guess they expect a more than just a bit of disbelief suspension from the audience than is usually the case.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 11:16:54 AM CST

    compn, you must be joking. hard.

    by the killer-goat

    because no fanboy talkbacker opens his mouth or ass so quickly to stick his foot in twice as fast. Unless it's sarcasm. And you don't radiate "sarcasm".

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  • Feb 01, 2003 11:20:24 AM CST

    I thought that pain medication was bad for Matt.

    by andy travis

    I seem to remember a moment in a Miller DD comic (maybe Elektra Lives Again?) where Matt mentions that drugs have a hightened effect on him, and he tries not to use them (we're talking pain meds and cold medicine and the like). Well, this review confirms the use of pop-music in the movie, sadly, as well as Farrell's overacting.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 11:55:52 AM CST

    Unbreakable NOT the best "superhero" movie.

    by the killer-goat

    it's missing or altered too many key ingredients from the typical hero-story requirements to be a qualified "superhero" movie. But it IS likely the best film ABOUT a superhero.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 12:09:37 PM CST

    Unbreakable...

    by beastie bat

    is a great film, though sequels are quite possibly the worst idea i have heard since comparing Ben Affleck to a turd. Hang on.....

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  • Feb 01, 2003 12:32:46 PM CST

    Kingpin's a fat white dude. Cast one.

    by napolean solo

    Because of that one line... you made me a believer in your review. That's why I didn't want to see this movie. Firstly Ben Affleck as a Superhero? Even his face looks wrong in the mask, but then... Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin??? When my brother first told me that, snot flew out of my nose in laughter. How could you change the colour of one of the most celebrated and familiar comic book characters of all time? Don't get it twisted, I'm black, but I have no desire to see a film adaptation of a black superhero starring Nicolas Cage in the title role.

    Why was everyone behaving like this didn't matter? What's wrong with you people?? Don't turn MAJOR things around in movies just because you want to be PC. That's like casting Mekhi Phiffer as Spider -man. I even got insulted in the talkback by some idiot trying to get all PC on a brother.

    The worst thing about all of this is that the Kingpin isn't exclusive to Daredevil! He is just as much Spider-mans enemy as he is for everyone else in the Marvel universe, so they have now absolutely DESTROYED his part in other comic/movie spin-offs. I would love to see Kingpin in a Spidey flick but not this all new "Blackpin" fellow. But you can't have two people playing the same role when both the franchises are current. That's why originaly I didn't want this film to do well... So they couldn't make any more. Bt if it is indeed a really good flick, then Godspeed to 'em. Whether Ben Affleck is fantastic in this role or not though, I still think this movie is hideously miscast.
    But that's just me.

    JF

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  • Feb 01, 2003 12:50:15 PM CST

    Jade Fox you are one dumb motherfucker

    by soulonice

    Kingpin is not such a major character that you can't change his color. And besides where else are you going to get an actor that size that can actually act. I don't believe you are black. A black man wouldn't want a movie to fail because a black actor was cast unless he was an Uncle Tom. You disgust me with your dumb, ignorant rants. No one really cares and if the movie fails at the box office it will not have anything to do with the Kingpin's color. Oh yeah, the "blackpin" comment was poor taste.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 12:52:45 PM CST

    Sounds like a winner!

    by screenplaywriter

    Well, I'm psyched, just purchased my early tickets for this. Even though I'll have to wait another 13 days it still feels great now reading this review that I'm going to be able to see a movie that'll be just like the first "BATMAN" dark, brutal, bloody, and fun all at once.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 1:23:01 PM CST

    SoulOnIce you

    by napolean solo

    SoulOnice, do you know how many millions of sperm were fighting to get inside of your mothers eggs? Look at the idiot who won! When I think of people like you I really wonder, why did God rest on Sunday!! Firstly Kingpin is FAT not muscular, secondly if you even had sense enough to read my post and not LOOK at it you dumb house negro, I said I hoped the movie fails so they couldn't make anymore. I said THE MOVIE was hideously miscast not just Kingpin you ignoramus. I started by saying how wrong Ben Affleck was for the role. Again for those of you that can read... THE MOVIE is hideously miscast. Oh and SoulOnIce, anyone that doesn't think Kingpin is a major character in the Marvel universe isn't even qualified to have an opinion in this debate. And if I'm an uncle Tom for not wanting a seemingly bad movie )of what could be an excellent franchise) to fail, than I'm probably the brother of your mother!

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  • Feb 01, 2003 1:23:30 PM CST

    come on

    by noteboom

    Affleck may not be Olivier, but he's not the worst actor ever. Pearl Harbor & Armageddon are just bad movies all the way around. Can't blame 'em on Ben. Affleck was decent in Good Will Hunting, Dogma, & Chasing Amy. Not world class, but not chewing the scenery either. Overrated? I can buy that, but it jeopardizes your credibility to exaggerate to such an extreme degree. How can we trust your opinions of the film when you lead off with such an unwarranted attack?

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  • Feb 01, 2003 2:02:30 PM CST

    Kingpin is not fat.

    by bal00

    Umm....dude, The Kingpin is not fat.
    That

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  • Feb 01, 2003 2:06:16 PM CST

    Casting controversy goes on

    by silvio dante

    Although there's nothing we can do anymore. Well, there never was nothing WE could have done. Save for online petitions and such things rarely work in these matters. But one last whine about the subject : at leat they're consistent. None of the main characters resemble (physically) their comic-book counterparts. Jon Favreau as Foggy? C'mon. Pantoliano as Urich, who's not even called Urich, as I recall. Greek Garner etc. No need to mention the villains and the hero...It's all been said before, you know the drill. It's very consistent casting and it almost seems deliberate. Could this be the case? As if they nail the characters INSIDE it doesn't matter what they look like OUTSIDE. Of course, they could have done it for the sake of getting the starpower they now have, it's easy to explain away with something like the above reasoning. Now, nobody remembers such matters if the film is hit but c'mon, from comicbook origin standpoint this casting was insane. But for marketing reasons Affleck, Garner and Duncan make a lot of sense. Let's hope it does where it matters, in performances.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 2:08:33 PM CST

    Dazed and always confused...

    by crkellogg

    I don't really love Ben either however, there is another performance of his that should be considered one of his best. Check out Dazed and Confused from '93. His role as the loser football jock repeating his senior year is priceless. He is almost unrecognizable in the role as well.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 2:32:55 PM CST

    About the soundtrack:

    by skylord2

    It Rocks. I DL'ed the entire thing (all with spoofs in em) from Grokster and the entire album has blown me away. Specifically, Evanescence's "Bring Me To LIfe" which is haunting and, even w/out seeing the flick, suits perfectly to DD's environment. Fuel, Saliva, Moby, Nickleback, 12 Stones, Drowning Pool (w/ Rob Zombie) and even Graeme Revelle's orchestration theme all kick ass. And while Danny Elfman could pull off a full movie score, They just don't fit with Marvel's attitude. X-Men proved that. I'll take 20 all-attitude songs that help define DD and his movie than a 90 minute orchestral score that fails to move and is largely forgettable. And unless you get John Williams or James Horner, it will be. Tho, Graeme Revelle's full score for Sci-Fi's DUNE was absolutely brilliant.
    rock on.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 2:55:33 PM CST

    Re:SoundTrack

    by silvio dante

    So the songs are featured in the film, huh? Mercifully, so far the end titles have been the place where they paste the rawk. But in DD, Nu Metal while kicking bad guy ass? Can't help but imagine: what if back in '78 Superman had featured some music of the era in it? Imagine Superman catching Lois Lane as she's falling from that helicopter and Van Halen blasting into "You really got me". The love theme while Lois & Supes fly trough Metropolis nightsky replaced with Shaun Cassidy's "Do You Believe In Magic. And of course Commodores' "Three Times A Lady" whenever Valerie Perrine walks on-screen. Yeah, I'm not so sure about those songs in DD...

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  • Feb 01, 2003 3:05:11 PM CST

    People I want to see in "The Punisher" remake.

    by screenplaywriter

    George Clooney, or Ray Liotta are still in my mind as "The Punisher".
    They've already tapped Busta Rhymes as "Dredlock".
    For "Tombstone" (in the Spider-Man cartoon he was voiced and played by a black guy) so I'm thinking they're going to get a beefy black guy to play him. Also, I think "The Punisher" should be about he takes on a sinister criminal gang being led by "Tomstone" and "Dredlock". And have scenes of "Tomstone" kicking Punisher's ass (like Bullseye will do to Daredevil) only in the end Punisher uses one of his gadgets to kill Tomstone. What do you think?

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  • Feb 01, 2003 4:24:25 PM CST

    Black Superheroes

    by silvio dante

    The Falcon, Black Panther, Spawn, War Machine, Nighthunter, Green Lantern (in cartoons) and of course Blade just off the top of my head. Bishop. Storm. The Crawler. Was White Tiger actually black or am I confusing him with Abe Brown from Sons of The Tiger?

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  • Feb 01, 2003 4:26:28 PM CST

    Come to think of it...

    by silvio dante

    The concept of The Truth-miniseries (black Captain America) would make a hell of a film.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 4:37:54 PM CST

    Funny you should mention Tombstone, Harkavey

    by silvio dante

    He's a black man too. He's albino.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 5:06:03 PM CST

    Got to admit with Lewis Black on the Kingpin thing.

    by screenplaywriter

    Who really the hell cares if they change just one character's race. I mean look at Bullseye his costume is changed but nobody is complaining, because Colin Farell delivers a performance that works and he's intimidating and plays the assassin role bruthlessly and wickedly and look at Jennifer Garner's costume, hers is changed, but still me and every other guy likes her in her black leather pants and her tight top. So who cares if you change things. People like X-Men's costumes better than the comic ones because it's more modern. I mean really who could you find to play Kingpin that is white? You'd have to put a skinny guy in a fat suit, or make him gain tons of weight just to play the role. Michael Clark Duncan is a good pick. End of story.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 5:51:06 PM CST

    blackula

    by miltonwaddams

    i agree that i can't think of a guy that could capture the essence of kingpin, butterbean maybe, if he could act. it's not like they casted chris rock. i don't have a huge hardon for how kingpin looks, so i could give a shit. but you know that if they casted a guy that looked just like clark kent, but he was black, you'd all be up in arms. it's not racist to want the real life character to look like the comic book character.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 6:10:10 PM CST

    like a good neighbor

    by miltonwaddams

    "i don't have a huge hardon for how kingpin looks, so i could give a shit". i don't care how he looks, who they casted, whatever, i don't mind micheal clark duncan. i'm just saying it's not racist to want your character to look like he does in the comics. i didn't say ANYTHING about the "blackpin" remark, so i don't really understand that comment. it's all about where you draw the line. to some people, it's sacrilegious to misrepresent superman, to other people, it's equally offensive to make bullseye's costume the wrong color. someone's itchy to play "you're a fucking racist" card. lighten up.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 6:12:30 PM CST

    I've seen Daredevil fight!!!!

    by lyunardo

    But strangely they called the film The Bourne Identity.
    I actually liked Afleck in Chasing Amy, and, to my surprise, as Jack Ryan... But in all of the trailers, he looks stiff and slow and definitely not acrobatic.
    On the other hand, Matt Damon as Jason Bourne was quick and fluid, and looked like an Irish kid who could've grown up in Hell's Kitchen and gotten himself a law degree and a black belt.
    What am I trying to say? Matt Damon should've been the one in the red leather. Period.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 6:24:20 PM CST

    It wasn't PC-casting

    by krillian

    Name an actor who's 6'7" 350 pounds and a better actor than Michael Clarke Duncan. THe studio was hesitant to change Kingpin's race until they agreed with Johnson that Duncan was the best actor for the role. THey test-screen plenty of white wrestlers and such but none had the screen presense Duncan had. Read all about it in this week's Entertainment Weekly.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 6:39:22 PM CST

    Batman sucked

    by ravingfrenchman

    Please people! I was so disappointed when the original Batman came out 'cause it was obviously made by people who didn't know what they were doing. Why did it have to become the "Joker Movie"??? Kim Basinger as Vicki Vale??? Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne??? (anyone could have worn the suit). Only the role of Alfred was well cast. AND DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE SEQUEL!!! Danny DeVito as the Penguin was the most overwrought piece of acting since Divine hit a stage.
    Hopefully DareDevil will rock. If not, we can all hold our breath until Spiderman 2.
    OUT.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 6:54:59 PM CST

    Batman suck?

    by screenplaywriter

    What are you talking about Michael Keaton was fine as Batman! And Jack stole the show as "The Joker" okay the only thing that did suck was Kim Basinger's character, but that was about it, the rest was pure gold.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 6:58:22 PM CST

    Re: Batman sucked

    by screenplaywriter

    And another thing Danny Devito was fine as The Penguin he had the laugh, the waddle, the everything the only problem was Burton made him too deranged and cannibalistic (like when he holds up the guy's arm, or when he bites the guy in the nose and drinks the blood.) If Burton would've just made him as a "freak" but stuck with the "freak who wants to be loved" instead of the "once a freak always a freak" formula I think The Penguin would've worked better.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 7:42:20 PM CST

    TalkBack dis-chronology

    by silvio dante

    has reached new heights. If it's a word. And even if it isn't.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 7:57:26 PM CST

    re: White Tiger

    by kilikuman

    Yeah, White Tiger was black. Was. Poor guy...

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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:13:50 PM CST

    How so

    by silvio dante

    What happened to his white, eh black ass?

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  • Feb 01, 2003 8:14:44 PM CST

    White Tiger that is

    by silvio dante

  • Not a Daredevil fan myself. I'm not even a Marvel fan really. I could never get into the Marvel comics, mainly because they were too well established and too deeply entrenched in their mythology for me to really find a way in. Add that I was living on air force bases around the world for most of my childhood, where it was never certain the local Stars and Stripes would be carrying the latest issue, and there goes any use for a serial. That said, had Ultimate Spider-Man come out when I was a kid, I would have eaten it up and forgotten old guys like Superman and Batman. But by and large, DC wins that war for me. Still, I want to see this thing, mainly because of King Pin. He will always belong to Spider-Man's rogue's gallery for me, but it'll be cool to see him on screen. I don't really share the objections to his being black because I remember thinking more than once how cool James Earl Jones would have been in the role. Now Duncan is much more of a teddy bear in my eyes, but I really want to see him kick ass in the part just the same. If he does, I don't think there's anything to complain about. ********** And no fucking way has Affleck given the best performance of his AND Matt Damon's careers. I don't care how good he is, he's not capable of being better in ANY given role than Matt Damon has been in most of his films(Affleck owes him for taking the better role in Dogma). I don't like Keanu Reeves, but I thought Matrix was pretty good and that he was good in it, but that doesn't make him a great actor.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:33:10 PM CST

    I'll tell you why DC doesn't get it

    by enrac

    Because of those sons whores who call themselves producers. Kevin Smith threw his arms up and walked away because of that and Brett ratner's gonna do that too. Kill them! Kill them all I say and the DC world will be all good again.

    Can't wait to see DD!

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:43:28 PM CST

    And speaking of Tim Burton...

    by ravingfrenchman

    He did for Batman what he did for Planet of the Apes. The only thing that guy's EVER done that was half decent was Sleepy Hollow. Why is it the studios equate freakishness with artsiness?
    Dear Lord, would any of you trust him with his kids???
    'Nuff said.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:44:20 PM CST

    the important thing about Kingpin isn't that he's white...

    by lyunardo

    it's that he's NOT Italian. He was tough enough, and calculating enough to take over organized crime from any godfather, or dons or whoever. That's why Duncan's casting didn't bother me. On the other hand Electra IS Greek. That's who she is, why she has that name, and is something she always talk and thinks about. That's why Garner was not good casting, even though she is great as this "type" of character.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:46:38 PM CST

    Elton?? - Star Wars???

    by ravingfrenchman

    Insert "Rocket Man" jokes here.

    Or insert Rocket wherever Elton wants it.

    OUCH!

    In space, no one can hear you throw a hissy fit.

    Hitting the airlock...NOW!

    {WHOOSH!}

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:50:43 PM CST

    Hey Raving French Guy...

    by lyunardo

    What about Nightmare Before Christmas? and Mars Attacks? Edward Scissorhands, and Beetlejuice? Basically Tim Burton is GREAT when he's working on his own vision, but he can't leave his own warped dreamscape long enough to interpet someone elses source material.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 9:57:56 PM CST

    Tim Burton...uh.

    by ravingfrenchman

    Those movies you mentioned weren't especially good either. Beetlejuice? YUCK. If that's "vision" then blindness ain't half the handicap I thought it was.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 10:16:22 PM CST

    Vision

    by lyunardo

    whether you enjoy those Burton films I listed or not, I think anyone can agree that they all share a consistant philosophy about film making and life that can be defined as Tim Burton's "vision" The same can be said for Spielberg. He's made some Great films, and some mediocre films and even a few bad ones; he's worked in scifi, historical, and comedy, but if a person can't see the consistancy of vision through them all, then I guess that person really is blind.

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  • Feb 01, 2003 11:51:13 PM CST

    You make me laugh so much Lewis Black. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE

    by napolean solo

    Its Onceince (or whatever his name was) that was convinced I am white. Boy if you can only see how funny this is. I must be the most racist black man alive then considering the amount of Hip Hop I listen to. This is so hilarious it's insane. Oh and Mr. Black, stop saying it don't matter what colour they make this guy or that guy, or what they do with the story lines and it's nothing to do with the public No one here is that naive to think that their individual view matters that much but WHY DO WE HAVE TALKBACK IN THE FIRST PLACE??? If not to air our opinions... no matter how OPINIONated they might seem. Come on bro, feel me their at least. And don't get offended because I call another brother Blackpin! You wanna see the list of names I called him in Planet Of The Apes. And why does everyone keep saying he's the only one that could play the Kingpin. Like there are no big actors in Hollywood!!!1 If it is indded size, then MCD is not even half the size of the comic Kingpin, if it's acting... before the Green Mile, no one would have even looked twice at Mr. Duncan, in fact as I'm writing this, I just had a thought... James Gandolfini would've been a better choice. Lewis, I swear my brother, no hard feelings, I understand your venom. But it ain't racist for me to make fun of a fellow brother's role by calling him ANY name. But if you still think I'm white, then isn't that the beauty of the net, everyones invisible. VIVA BLACKPIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Feb 01, 2003 11:56:47 PM CST

    maybe i'm daredevil

    by liljuniorbrown

    I pop vicodin like candy every night.....ha ha ha,but really i wish that kevin smith would write and direct a dc comics movie.Warners are just to stupid to do it."Wow look money,we don't want any part of that"

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  • Feb 01, 2003 11:57:35 PM CST

    oh and SILVO...

    by napolean solo

    Can't you find other words in your vocabulary to use than profanity. If I was your mother, I'd really spank you (if the brothel owner would give me enough time off)!!!

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  • Feb 02, 2003 12:30:03 AM CST

    The review without fear

    by twitaman

    Well, I haven't seen it yet but now, after reading two good reviews I'm anxious and maybe even a wee bit less apprehensive about seeing DareDevil. But no way in hell were any of those Batman movies good by any stretch of the imagination. The Burton movies had a few highlights, but overall they weren't that good in retrospect, and the other films were just the equivalent of celluloid crap.

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  • Your a fucking Moron. hmmm that was kinda repetitive, oh well anyway, The movies are at different studios genuis. There will never be a Kingpin in Spidey, there will never be X-men in Spidey or vice versa. X-men is at Fox along with DareDevil, Spidey's at Columbia, Hulk Is at Universal and the Future flicks will be spread about as well. I think New line Regency(?) Has Iron Fist. Nothing has been ruined for future movies. I think Sub-Mariner is going to be at Universal. I'm Glad Mori Liked this flick, Not that that means anything to me. Him and Harry like everything that I dislike. But reading the reactions of talkbackers is hilarious.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 3:22:38 AM CST

    Yeah, yeah, but what of Graeme Revell's score?!?!

    by bv

    How come no one ever mentions the music? The Daredevil theme is very important. Anyone remember the Batman theme? I thought you would.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 3:47:05 AM CST

    black superheroes

    by skylord2

    don't forget LUKE CAGE: HERO FOR HIRE. Unfortunately, I doubt he'll be in the IRON FIST movie. He was a bad mo' fo'. Too bad Wesley Snipes never got around to doing BLACK PANTHER and settled on BLADE, intead. I think the main problem is that there are more black superheroes than there are black actors. Michael Jai WHite did Spawn. I guess Cuba Gooding, Jr. will have to play The Falcon and Denzel Washington could play War Machine (if he bulked up...and took acting lessons). Past that, I guess we'll have to resort to DMX, Ja Rule and Lil Bow Wow for any future projects. sad really...

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  • Feb 02, 2003 4:06:11 AM CST

    Good to hear about the acting and music.

    by kong33

    I was mostly worried of that.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 4:19:13 AM CST

    Sounds good but Daredevil doesn't kill

    by defiant

    He is Very much against killing. He believes in the justice system. The only person he didn't try to save was Bullseye, and that was after previously saving bullseye's life, Bullseye killed many others including Elektra.

    I guess Johnson wanted to make DD more hardcore, but then it makes it absurd that he decides to spare the Kingpin's life at the end of the movie. Especially hwen Johnson rewrote history to have the Kingpin be the one who ordered DD's father's death.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 6:16:56 AM CST

    djaj

    by miltonwaddams

  • As someone else said, the most important aspect of Kingpin's rise to power is not that he's white, but that he's not Italian. Casting an Italian guy would mean Kingpin was just another Mafia character, which Wilson Fisk is most assuredly not. When Kingpin was created, it wouldn't have been possible for him to be black, because a black man couldn't have risen to such heights in the legitimate business world, let alone a Mafia-dominated underworld. Not to suggest that race relations are anything like as equitable as they should be, but nowadays there's no reason a black guy couldn't become a business tycoon. The fact that they cast MCD gives even more resonance to the fact that a non-Italian took over the crime families of New York than if he was white. Not that I dislike the Kingpin being white in the comics, or think his race should be changed to be in line with the film, I'm just, basically, pointing out why your Gandolfini argument is bullshit.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 8:39:14 AM CST

    Michael Clarke duncan rules

    by mr k

    Dear Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr. I must say I really liked this review (maybe except the shitting in the morning part) as it made me reeeeeally want to see the movie, but I think that you exaggerated a bit about Kingpin's skin color. Depite the fact that comic book characters are very important to all you big cmoic fans, it is not to say that you owe them some sort of respect like in the case of Lincoln or Luther King. And even if you do, can you think of some fat white actors that could deliver the role of Kingpin. It would be very hard, because Kingpin was MASSIVE and I'm not talking about his weight only. He was cool, evil and really fucking dangerous. And to me there is no other actor apart from Michael Clarke Duncan that could manage that part. It makes me shaky just thinking about the coolness he brought into the character of Frankie Figgs in "The Whole Nine Yards". And also, being a non-racist white guy myselg, I say that black actors are FAR more charismatic than white guys and I have no idea why. They simply are cooler, meaner and tougher (maybe except Chris Rock). That's how it is. End Of Story.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 12:15:11 PM CST

    final destination flash ads: vengence is mine

    by brandloyalist

    That FRIGGIN OBNOXIOUS FINAL DESTINATION 2 AD. What a piece of shit. Well, now no one at my apt will ever see another Flash object served from AICN again.

    Grab your pointing device real tight and hover it over this, so-called New Line Cinema:

    # squirm.patterns
    #
    # Die, AICN flash advertisements!
    # Suck it Final Destination 2! Vengence is mine!
    regexi ^http://www\.aintitcool\.com/.*\.swf$ http://localhost:5080/squished.swf ^http://www.aintit

    That'll learn 'em

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  • Feb 02, 2003 12:15:52 PM CST

    Groan

    by ribbons

    I'm not gonna start another debate with ICQ. One thing I will say, if posts like that are what get you banned from this site then Harry and Co. ARE a bunch of tightasses.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 12:17:42 PM CST

    this talkback

    by cyberskunk

    I guess if I try to avoid heavy spoilers, I should stay the heck out of talkbacks. Geez.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 12:24:46 PM CST

    Yes, I agree Michael Clark Duncan rules.

    by screenplaywriter

    He ruled in the "Scorpion King" giving The Rock a beating. He ruled in "Planet of the Apes" as Thade's leading man, only to find out that his friend held a secret from him. He ruled in "The Green Mile" playing a bighearted saint. And lastly he ruled in "The Whole Nine Yards" as being Bruce's mobster friend. This mean is a giant, but a giant who can play roles convicingly. Give the man a chance as "The Kingpin" he is already getting great buzz from people as playing it well. Who cares if his skin tone doesn't match a 60 year-old comic book's image of him. It doesn't matter anymore.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 1:55:49 PM CST

    Get Lucky

    by cuervojones

  • Feb 02, 2003 2:22:38 PM CST

    I've said it a million times...

    by halloween68

    I'll say it a million more. Donner's original Superman is still the best superhero film ever made. Batman and Spider-Man are pretty close together in a distant second. Superman's a great film all the way through. Except for a few cheezy moments, it's a perfect film that ranks right up there with other cinematic greats of our era... Jaws, Close Encounters, the original Star Wars. It's first and foremost a wonderful "film". It just so happens that it's also based on a comic book. It's a superhero film. I think this gets lost a lot of times in the more contemporary comics / superhero adaptations. The acting in Donner's Superman is first-rate. I think that's the difference so far. Superman was performance driven, everything since has been special effects driven.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 4:02:01 PM CST

    Comic Book Overkill

    by lossieboy

    One of these Movies is going to take a right kicking regardless of quality because theres not enough of market for three Superhero movies in a year. I thought it was going to be DD but after reading the reviews above and seeing glimpses of spfx on the Hulk its not looking peachy for the big green dude. Hey leave of Affleck, he was in the greatest movie of all time ..... MALLRATS.no really.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 4:07:18 PM CST

    Moron, this aint Comicbooks

    by justice41

    Fox aint gonna share X-men and Daredevil with Universal and Columbia. What are you Injecting into your toes? This aint comic Books asshole, There aren't going to be any Crossovers. Hell Marvel and DC can't even get their shit together to finish the Avengers VS Justice league Comic. Get a clue and come live in the real world. Why do you think It took so long to get Spidey done? Why do you think Corman did that cheap FF flick? Yeesh, some peple aint got the common sense god gave a flea. Just look to the latest ruling about Intellectual properties that Disney just went through. Once the studio buys the Licensing and film rights to a Property they just won't willy nilly allow another Studio to co-opt their rights. Man what kind of stupid are you?

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  • Feb 02, 2003 4:31:25 PM CST

    Lyunardo

    by ravingfrenchman

    If I can't see his vision, I'm blind? Too clever by half, puppy. All I was saying is that I have beheld Tim Burton's "vision", and it SUX, consistent or not. It just screams "I'm out of my medication!", doesn't it? To sane people, I mean...

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  • Feb 02, 2003 4:32:11 PM CST

    hey Lyunardo

    by ravingfrenchman

    If I can't see his vision, I'm blind? Too clever by half, puppy. All I was saying is that I have beheld Tim Burton's "vision", and it SUX, consistent or not. It just screams "I'm out of my medication!", doesn't it? To sane people, I mean...

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  • Feb 02, 2003 4:33:13 PM CST

    but of course...

    by ravingfrenchman

    Tim Burton might be a genius and I'm just too retarded to recognize it. Me and the rest of the world...

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  • They said it about SpiderMan, now about DareDevil. I've seen both movies, and I love 'em both, but they are completely forgetting about The Crow... The first one... Now that is a damn good comic book movie.

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  • Actually, I didn't read that deeply into it, but is it just me or is this review TOO GOOD for the AICN contribution standards? Plus, Affleck and Damon are known for being a self-depreciating duo. (Anyone remember the Sam Adams radio spots where they get the secretary to bad mouth them?) I dunno, it's probably not them, but that was my knee-jerk "What If?" thought. And God knows that Kevin Smith acclimated them to the treacherous terrain of TBLand. But since I'm (predictably) single this February, I'd like to see this on opening night. Just to see if the crowd make-up is what I think it'll be. Shit, I gotta get back in shape....

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  • i was first! this thing sucks ass!!!

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  • Feb 02, 2003 8:36:49 PM CST

    Ben Affleck...

    by mark1970

    Is hating Ben Affleck a pre requisite to being a loser with no life. Well, 1 anyways. Another would be jumping on the jock of all comic movies, even before you see them.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 8:49:02 PM CST

    Summation of all AICN film reviews

    by thingsthattimdog

    Allow me to sum the first three or four paragraphs of every damn review this site ever posts:
    Let me begin by saying *insert actor, producer, director name here* is the most worthless piece of shit to ever be put on celluloid. If he was on fire, I wouldnt cross the street to piss him out. No i would blast him with lighter fluid. That said, I was a huge fan of *insert genre, comic, anime, TV show title here*. I recall fondly my childhood days of whacking off to *insert genre, comic, anime, TV show title here* and never dating. I was so worried that *insert actor, director, producer name here* would violently rape my childhood like a ruffied 14 year old with her panties left around her ankles. Thank you *insert actor, director, producer name who i usually hate* for proving me wrong. ***This movie is the best since *name of some mediocre film usually listed as the peniultimate of the genre* way better than *the second best film of the genre* that i felt was bad because *insert geek bitching about something nobody gives a shit about*. While this is the best film ever. If you use this please call me *something asinine*. Thank you.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 9:37:21 PM CST

    Favreau rocks

    by smurfette

    Can't wait to see favs as foggy...

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  • Feb 02, 2003 11:44:02 PM CST

    Man the order of these Backs makes it not worth reading

    by justice41

    Yeah right like any of us will do that. Lewis , Your using the wrong word, he's not a Racist, just a plain ole Bigot , As well as Prejudiced. But don't bother . He will never agree with you so why even try.

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  • Feb 02, 2003 11:59:45 PM CST

    Kingpin

    by bunnyman40

    I thought Kingpin wsa filipino in the comics?

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  • Feb 03, 2003 1:36:00 AM CST

    Bullseye

    by the hulk

    The only thing i don't like about the movie is that bullseye doesn't look like bullseye.You can't change the character looks completely and call him bullseye. There is no reason they could not have used a more similar looking suit, and the new suit does not even look better.It bugs me a lot but i will probably see the movie anyways. They screwed up with that. HULK MAD!!!!SMASH!!

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  • Feb 03, 2003 3:15:04 AM CST

    yeah...the movie...(spoiler)

    by holoholojoe

    is based on the Frank Miller story arc back in the 80's where electra "dies" at the hands of bullseye and Daredevil gets rid of bullseye. (btw are the original comics worth anything now?) the movie is dark but i think it's not "dirty" type dark like the CROW, which i STILL think is the BEST comics book adapation ever, the rest of the adaptations (spider-man, superman, batman, x-man, etc) are too glossy and has no soul when compared to the CROW. anyway, why are big budget movies so CLEAN anyway? i mean their locations and etc..even trash in those movies doesn't look like trash. one of the reasons why STAR WARS IV was such a success was because it showed space to be "unclean" and made it actually look like reality....which i think is one of the reason why "reality" shows are such a big hit, cause the public wants to see stuffs that's real..granted comic book adaptations are not based on real life BUT still, when you have to work over time to your "suspension of disbelieve" cause it's a comic book movie, it lessen the impact. anyway, i am meadering again, gotta get back on my medicine..

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  • Feb 03, 2003 9:04:50 AM CST

    Who cares about the Bullseye suit it's a costume big whup.

    by screenplaywriter

    Personally, I like this costume better than the comics one, because the comics one makes him look like a queer, whereas this one makes him look like a bad-ass ready to kill people on his Hog and take some names.

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  • Feb 03, 2003 10:06:38 AM CST

    Thank God for Daredevil

    by hipcheck13

    This review's got me hyped. Watching the trailers you don't really see any of DD's "dark side," so it's nice to know the movie really DOES get it right - oh, and by the way, the "dark" Daredevil didn't exist in the 70s - he came along much later (though how I wish Gene Colan could've pencilled THOSE stories).

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  • Feb 03, 2003 4:28:45 PM CST

    I name all my turds Ben, Matt and Tom

    by hate_speech

    who doesn't name their poops?

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  • Feb 03, 2003 5:02:12 PM CST

    Where's my asbestos suit

    by gypsytrobot

    You fools, you're just jealous. Admit it, you all liked him as the murderous angel in Dogma. As far as prepackaged man stars go, he's better than Tom Cruise at any rate, who's the biggest phoney on the planet and a Scientologist to boot. + to piss you often even more, if a live-action version of The Hobbit ever gets made, Michael Clark Duncan should play Beorn, the huge black-haired man who could turn into a huge black bear. Don't think Tolkien said the guy had white skin, so why not?

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  • Feb 03, 2003 8:43:10 PM CST

    Just watched a scene where Bullseye takes some glass from a stai

    by screenplaywriter

    It was pretty cool, but reminded me alot with Green Goblin and his razor bats. Only this time Daredevil out-maneuvers all of Bullseye's throws, he even takes a cross and blocks all the shots. Then, they fight on a church organ and I think what it was that comes out of the organ is a bunch of bats. Looks cool! Can't wait to see this!

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  • Feb 03, 2003 8:51:52 PM CST

    Daredevil Better than Batman

    by dude fx

    Daredevil seems to be what all Batman movies should have been. The only thing that bugged me a little bit is that (and my feelings are based on the trailers only) Matt Murdock looked as if he was saying too many jokes. He almost sounded like Spiderman. I might be wrong, I don't read too many DD comics, but I thought he was a darker character.

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  • Feb 03, 2003 9:32:26 PM CST

    DC doesn't have much to say about what WB does to their characte

    by yeah i'm a jerk!

    that's what is sad about the batman and superman movies, is that dc didn't want them to be craptacular, it's that they are a cog in a machine that views the characters that we know and love as product and product only. but we see what time-warner-aol stock is doing. it would almost be better if wb sold dc to marvel and let them license the characters out for movies. marvel has got it made. they have ultimate say so on what the films are gonna be like. dc has to say "yassa massa" to the the aol machine.

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  • Feb 03, 2003 10:27:54 PM CST

    Justice 41...

    by llghtst0rmer

    You are thinking more realistically than the average talkbacker, but the characters are property of Marvel, aren't they? I know where you're coming from, the notion that when a screenplay is picked up by a production company, the project becomes a property of said company. But Marvel does have their own film division; it's their company. Fox is the distributor of the film. Unless they actually produced the movie, it and its characters still belong to Marvel and they're free to do what they want with them. It's like Spider-Man. Sony owns the film that made 400 bajillion bucks last summer, but Marvel owns the comics that everyone's bought for the past several decades. (I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, and I apologize if I'm coming across condescendingly, I'm just trying to get the point across.) Of course, the whole Jason vs. Freddy thing comes to mind, and that took years to happen because it was a New Line vs. Paramount thing, but those characters were owned by the studios from the start. Or, there's always the possibility I know nothing about any of this.

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  • Feb 04, 2003 6:12:50 PM CST

    what about Two-Face?

    by maxwell's hammer

    Remember how stupid it was when they cast Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent in the first Batman movie? And then he was Tommy Lee Jones a few movies later. I agree that superheroes should be portrayed on film with as many physical and personality traits as possible left intact.

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  • Feb 05, 2003 5:29:19 PM CST

    first comic book movies

    by brandon12588

    well i've heard ppl say the crow or blade and your all wrong
    does anyone remember the fantastic Four, Captain America, or the Punisher. And let's all face the facts they wll never make some of the movie's we want them to ie: The Avengers, DDand Spiderman,or The Justice League. those all would rock (if the were directed right) hell i'de even like to see Iron Man,Black Panther or a good batman or evn superman movie for that matter. BUT let's face it, it will never happen.

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  • Feb 05, 2003 5:29:19 PM CST

    first comic book movies

    by brandon12588

    well i've heard ppl say the crow or blade and your all wrong
    does anyone remember the fantastic Four, Captain America, or the Punisher. And let's all face the facts they wll never make some of the movie's we want them to ie: The Avengers, DDand Spiderman,or The Justice League. those all would rock (if the were directed right) hell i'de even like to see Iron Man,Black Panther or a good batman or evn superman movie for that matter. BUT let's face it, it will never happen.

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  • Feb 14, 2003 6:12:58 AM CST

    DareDevil on Kazaa this week-end

    by renaudman


    One very good reason not to see this movie is Ben Afleck...a real turn off for me

    As for those who don't want to waste good money on this there's always KAZAA - http://www.kazaa.com/us/index.php - where the real thing should be online ready to download by this weekend or beginning of the week,along with lots of fake files that have been there already for a week now...the key is those Kb numbers...should be part 1 and part 2,as 2 separate avi files between 120 to 150 each

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  • Feb 14, 2003 6:55:55 AM CST

    Silvio Dante = Marvel Moron

    by renaudman

    anything else you want to sell us

    DARE RED LATEX CHEEZY HORNY DEVIL who wants to see Ben Afleck scream like a girl YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

    Funny how a guy who don't even likes girls to begin with would hang around with one of the most beatiful for his image and publicity alone

    Ben & Jennifer what a fake hollywood publicity couple...can't even act that one role correctly...everything he appears with her it's like he's dragging a sac of patatoes...no tender feeling,no kiss and no smile what so ever towards his suppose love...there is now an once of affection between those 2 and Afleck is a moron and there is no way in h#ll I'm watching any of his movies.Jenny lose the dog you're too good for this

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  • Feb 15, 2003 4:38:44 PM CST

    DD: Marvel has done it again

    by naisugai84

    I completely agree with Dr. H. I am a strong anti-affleck and a daredevil fan. and i was almost ready to let the fact that affleck playing as daredevil ruin the movie for me. but i liked it. through and through. they kept everything perfect. ben was murdock and it showed again and again. I thought all parts were perfectly cast... even the kingpin. yes he was black in the movie and yes he is white in the comics. but other than that, it fit perfectly. the effects were amazing especially the way they portray DD's point of view. and it had all of the elements of a dark film. violence, blood, death, sex, language. if they would've had just a little bit more in any of those categories, it would not be PG-13. There were a few things that i did not enjoy. put only little things. and as far as Dr. H's comment about how Green Goblin didnt unmask spiderman and how that wasnt believable. he didnt need to unmask him because he already knew that spiderman and peter parker were the same. But the lack of unmasking comes up quite a bit in D.C. movies. because, in my opinion, D.C. does not even compare to marvel in the ways of comics and films. any comic who's main hero is a guy who can fly, is super strong and bullet proof but get his ass kicked by a green rock or a red sun just sucks to begin with. which is why the only D.C. hero i like is batman. and DD is just like Batman only better because DD does it without the billion dollars and handful of goofy children sidekicks. so if your itching for a good action movie and can wait until x2 and matrix reloaded comes out. grab your girl(or guy) and hit the cinemas. but leave the kiddies at home. i saw a married couple bring in their 4 year old son when i watched it yesterday and they had to cover his eyes nearly every 20 minutes.

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  • Feb 17, 2003 1:18:29 AM CST

    Kazaa DD part one 127,310 kb

    by renaudman

    Part 1 - avi file 127,310 kb checked...and I suspect,not sure that part 2 is - avi file 132,934 kb

    the rest are all fake files put up by Marvel and S-U & Fox,specially that full movie file.Forget the names,the kb size says it all :-)

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