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THE RING and RINGU Both Hitting DVD!!

Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.

One of the questions I’ve been asked a lot, even before the Dreamworks remake of THE RING hit theaters last year, is “When is the original Japanese RINGU going to come out in this country?” Well, thanks to a press release I got today, I can finally answer that question.

On March 4th, Dreamworks is releasing a special edition DVD of THE RING, complete with “an all-new 15-minute experimental short film created by director Gore Verbinski exclusively for the video release [that] reveals more electrifying secrets that bring viewers closer to understanding the mystery of ‘the Ring.’” On the same day, they’re releasing the original Japanese film as well with a newly-created digital film-to-video transfer and a new 5.1 Japanese Digital Surround mix.

One of the things that Roy Lee, the head of Vertigo Entertainment, has always wanted to do is to use American remakes to create a market for the release of Asian films on DVD and VHS. It’s hard to get most average filmgoers to pick up a foreign language film, especially if they don’t know what it is. Lee, one of the producers of the American RING, believes that remakes only fuel an audience’s desire to see the original, and on March 4th, Dreamworks is going to put that theory to the test. Personally, I look forward to picking up both releases.

"Moriarty" out.

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  • Jan. 22, 2003, 7:15 a.m. CST

    But are they going to bundle them together?

    by Swithin

    I *might* be willing to shell out $30 for a double-disc, but not $25 for each...

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 7:42 a.m. CST

    I'll buy the original version, and trash my bootleg

    by RenoNevada2000

    But I don't think I'll spend anymore on the American remake. It just didn't do it for me. And if the director has to include a 15 minute video that they actually state help the viewers better understand the movie, than I don't think the director really did his job to begin with.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 8:04 a.m. CST

    At the risk of sounding like a pussy...

    by IdFuckAvril

    This movie totally creeped me out. I had a hard time sleeping at night for a couple of days after I saw it. It pissed me that any film could have this effect on me. Watching the Killer Tape alone (I had a copy of it) wigged me out as well. I like this film, but I don't think I want to see it again anytime soon. I probably won't be buying this because it is, literally, scaring me off.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 8:05 a.m. CST


    by punkystar

    i saw ringu last year, and i was let down. there are certainly parts that are better than the ring, but all in all, the ring is stylistically better. more frightening. the one thing ringu had that the ring lacked was *loads* more explanation. seeing ringu made the ring make more sense.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 9:19 a.m. CST


    by Badtz

    I have a friend from Japan who laughs hysterically every time some dork calls the movie Ring-u.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Best horror film in a long time, and one of the best films of la

    by James Bond

    I saw Adaptation once in the theater and that was enough. It was good and all, but when it comes to buying dvds I need rewatchability, and The Ring has that in spades. Never saw Ringu, but I plan on renting it with the possibility of purchase down the road. They just don't make good scary movies anymore.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 10:32 a.m. CST

    RING was SUPER-HYPED shit

    by Garko

    I was severly over hyped to see this film. The ads had made it out to be the scariest thing since.... What a rip-off! I was never "scared", "creeped-out" or even "moderately moved" when I saw this dreck. Actually I was more entertained by the other people's reactions to what was happening on the screen. (oooh - a jerky, black & white video! Run for the hills!!! Like, O-Mi-Gawd!! It's the ladder that was in the video! I am, like, sooo creeped out!) Just as bad as the Blair Witch. Mind you I never saw the Japanese original (and I want to), but if they want to start distributing asian films in the US, then they should start with BATTLE ROYALE!!

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 10:54 a.m. CST


    by PLA28

    I purchased the japanese version on DVD two months ago at Kim's.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 11:58 a.m. CST

    I agree with WhoDaMan...

    by ponda_mcbaba

    I kept hearing that stupid screeching sound & weird music from the video for about a week after seeing the movie. Lousy overactive imagination.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 1 p.m. CST

    box set on Amazon UK

    by donde

    There's a box set of all three Japanese "Ring" movies coming out next Tuesday (1/28) on the Amazon UK site. For thoses who don't know, that means it has "Ring", "Ring 2" and "Ring 0". I love the original personally. I never saw the American version but i don't really see why I should see it anyway since the original was perfect. Also, the other poster that mentioned his Japanese friend laughing when people call the movie "Ring-u" is right. The American title "The Ring" is incorrect. It is simply "Ring". The "u" at the end of the word is just how the Japanese spell the word. It has to deal with one of the Japanese set of characters called Katakana, which are used for writing out foreign words mostly. The Japanese don't have any words that end with just a "g" but they have words that end in "gu" so that is why when the word "Ring" is spelled out in Katakana it is listed with the characters for "Ri-n-gu". Hope this little lesson helps.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 1:43 p.m. CST

    The (confusing) Ring

    by Randy Giles

    I don't get it? What is so hard to understand about "The Ring?" This video kills you after you watch it, and the little girl in it is scary as shit. I loved "The Ring," everything falls into place, and I have never been more scared by any other movie. Damn.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 1:43 p.m. CST

    WhoDaMan, you're not alone...

    by Feudal Fetus

    The girl's mother combing her hair then looking right at you. The way that little girl crawls out of the well and walks toward the camera with her hair in her eyes. Christ almighty, someone change my diaper!

  • Your sources are lazy.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Old ass news.....

    by Mr. Profit had this news since the begining of the year.... Oh and Ringu costs more than The Ring on Amazon...

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 2:58 p.m. CST


    by KyleKrane

    kickass.. like I said before

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 3:17 p.m. CST

    If you read any DVD websites. . .

    by Han Ol' Buddy

    You knew about this news weeks ago. This is cool news, but very old news. I'm glad they're finally releasing Ringu on DVD. The version I saw (and the version that Gore Verbinski originally saw as well supposedly) was a copy of a copy of a copy with horrible broken English subtitles. It'd be nice to see the original in decent video format with subtitles. Here's hoping they release Ringu 2 before they release The Ring 2 on DVD. What's that witch's name again. Grando?

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Creepy? Scary? Did we see the same movie?

    by MiserableRainGod

    I saw this movie with such high hopes...finally, a movie that would scare me more than a friggin' Resident Evil videogame. What I found, though, was just crap. Good idea, poor execution. Bad script, bad acting, bad music, bad attempts at scaring me. Maybe some good lighting, with a few interesting camera angles, but not enough to make a good movie. It takes more than a hairy girl and a few gray backdrops to frighten me, but my girlfriend is easily creeped...and she was just bored the whole time. Horror sucks these days. The only recent movie to give me a jump or 2 was Signs. Guess I gotta stick to Resident Evil.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 4:57 p.m. CST


    by Jamalio

    I can't believe you guys Stateside, geez, are they ever prejudice about the foreign film industry (that includes Asia, France, Spain etc). No wonder they always remake foreign films over there, because half the time, you guys don't even get to see the originals (maybe that's the intention?). Anyhow, the first Ring(u) movie (simply called Ring over here) came out in England 2 years ago (before there were even plans to remake it stateside) and Ringu 2 and its prequel, Ringu 0 (which focuses on how Sadako aka 'Samara' was tormented as a child) came out gradually. Ironically, the Ring remake is still not released here, but the original Ringu trilogy is fantastic- part 1 is classic conventional horror (set out over seven days like, um Se7en), part 2 deceptively tries to make logic of the video but takes it's premise even more 'out there' and 'unexplainable' to begin with, which makes the original seem even more freaky and twisted (and is actually pretty confusing and demands repeated viewing) and Ringu 0 is the perfect example of how a 'prequel' should be done (George Lucas take note). My advice- buy a chipped machine (that plays region 2) and have them imported off the net.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 4:59 p.m. CST


    by Jamalio

    I can't believe you guys Stateside, geez, are they ever prejudice about the foreign film industry (that includes Asia, France, Spain etc). No wonder they always remake foreign films over there, because half the time, you guys don't even get to see the originals (maybe that's the intention?). Anyhow, the first Ring(u) movie (simply called Ring over here) came out in England 2 years ago (before there were even plans to remake it stateside) and Ringu 2 and its prequel, Ringu 0 (which focuses on how Sadako aka 'Samara' was tormented as a child) came out gradually. Ironically, the Ring remake is still not released here, but the original Ringu trilogy is fantastic- part 1 is classic conventional horror (set out over seven days like, um Se7en), part 2 deceptively tries to make logic of the video but takes it's premise even more 'out there' and 'unexplainable' to begin with, which makes the original seem even more freaky and twisted (and is actually pretty confusing and demands repeated viewing) and Ringu 0 is the perfect example of how a 'prequel' should be done (George Lucas take note). My advice- buy a chipped machine (that plays region 2) and have them imported off the net.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 5 p.m. CST


    by Jamalio

    Battle Royale? I truelly can't beleive you guys have not seen this fantastically deranged black comedy. but by the sounds of things, your also missing Audition (which I admittedly had to return to the shop on account of how disturbing and fucked up it was- the torture sequences really made me cringe). Over here in the UK we have to buy a multi region player to buy discs off you guys, well by the sounds of things you lot in the states should buy one too (just so you could play foreign language discs from us that have English subtitles, which you could surely buy from

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 5:17 p.m. CST

    To all posters who didn't think the Ring remake wasn't scary:

    by Nice Marmot

    Please give me a list of your top 10 scariest movies, or at least your top 5. Are you all being technical & separating actual fear from suspense or something? Or is there absolutely no movie out there that you consider scary? I'm not arguing w/ you, just curious.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Attention Grammar Police

    by Nice Marmot

    Before 800 or so of you make fun of my 1st post, I f'd up & typed it wrong. I thought the Ring remake was scary, please give me some movies that YOU consider scarier.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Ring/Ringu DVD

    by themikejonas

    Putting in my $.02 - The Ring (remake) will have an MSRP of $19.95, and Ring (the original) $29.99. Want a bundle? Buy 'em together for 'bout $50. :D - The issue of which version is better is moot. From months of co-moderating the Ringworld forum ( ), I've found that one rule holds true in nearly all cases: You prefer the version you see first. People who saw the original first tend to find the remake too slick, augmented with cliched horror devices, and too "spelled out," while the ones who watch the remake first find the original too low-budget, not scary, and ambiguous.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 7:28 p.m. CST


    by Jamalio

    To the talk backer who requested a list of the 10 scrariest movies-here are mine- 1. THE EXCORCIST (obvious choice I admit, but there it has that something 'too close to the truth' essence about it especially of the you-know-what that is happenening right now in such and such a country- dispute, that is) 2. THE DAY OF THE LOCUST (the less you know about this, the better, lets just say that it must have inspired David Lynch's 'Mulholland Drive', and has the most unpredicatable climax I have ever seen) 3. THE OMEN (same reasons as no. 1, the genuinely sinister undertones, the reactions from the characters as they get that look off Damien/babysitter/the alsation) 4. TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME(unusual choice I admit, but some of the nightmarish imagery in this film is amongst the scariest I have ever seen, with a climax that DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT WAS DIRECTED BY ANYONE HUMAN!) 5. SUSPIRIA - first time only, altough I could not watch this at home alone, with the lights turned out, looks as though it was directed by satan himself. 6. THE EVIL DEAD- (no.1 one, of course) hard core horror, the feeling of being in Ashes' position, cut off from civalisation and something like that out of the ordinary- best mates turned into zombies and attack you- SHEESH! 7. DON'T LOOK NOW - as close a film as you'll get to the supernatural world, that horrifying climax (again, first time only). 8. TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE - not a calculatedly scary film, it is just so horrendous, so evil, realistic and confrontational in that you know shit like that exists out there. 9. HALLOWEEN - yes, there are people like that in reality (apart from the fact that they're indestructible) and yes, they could be outside your house even as we speak. 10. UNKNOWN- some film me and a friend saw a while ago about a cursed painted portrate, which I didn't find out what it was called. Just the ending, which was a slow zoom in on a very freaky picture with a voice over, and this sudden climactic noise from a detuned orchestra, freaked us out (especially as the film was in the background, we were'nt paying attention to it and were talking about something scary anyway, and we both just happen to pay attention to the screen at that particular time). SO NOW OTHER TALK BACKERS- LETS SEE YOUR TOP TEN LIST (AND TRY TO BE VARIED AND INSPIRED- NO SCREAMS OR I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMERS ETC).

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 7:32 p.m. CST

    In response---some scary movies

    by MiserableRainGod

    I love to be scared (for entertainment purposes only!). I wanna make that clear. In my previous post, I mentioned Resident Evil, and that I wanted to find a movie which frightened me the way that game did. I'm not kidding. That game, is really great at scaring the crap out of me. I've played it over and over, and it ALWAYS scares me. The music, the monsters, the sense of being trapped, never quite having enough ammo to feel comfortable... As of yet, though, no movie has scared me enough on a single viewing that I'd ever care about sitting through it again, to receive more, deeper scares, to unravel more of the mystery, to get something more out of it. Have I seen many horror movies? No. But I've seen plenty of crap-fest Scream and Haunting wanna-bees that claim to be horror. Lets face it, Scream wasn't scary. Fun, maybe, but not scary. I don't even classify Scream, Final Destination, Urban Legend, House on Haunted Hill, or any of that as Horror. It's more comedy/horror...the kind of crap that Freddy Kruger degenerated to in his later incarnations when he killed people by putting them in videogames. I define being scared by a movie as a combination of its jumps and the overall creepiness/freakiness of it...the whole movie, not a few spooky scenes here and there, or a cheesy CGI monster. Bad horror, for me, is a film that tries to be scary, but fails. Event Horizon failed. Poltergeist 3 failed. The Ring failed. Nothing about The Ring compelled me. Yes, there was a freaky scene here and there, accentuated by some nice lighting. The music sucked. The story sucked. The twist at the end sucked. The acting was ok. It may have looked nice, it may have unfolded in all the ways a moviemaking textbook says a good horror movie should unfold, but it did not succeed in giving me any kind of chill, willie, squirm, jump, cold sweat, warm sweat, heebie-geebie, or shivery-shake. Not a single 1. I laughed. I said eewww and aaawww when a horse died. I liked the crazy guy played by the original Hannibal (Stryker, Rushmore Headmaster, etc). I liked Naomi Watts, even though she didn't take her top off and make out with another chick. But I thought that overall it was a bad movie, and as a horror movie it was downright pathetic. I'd rather watch Ghostbusters, it's scarier. Of course, there have been a few films which gave me at least ONE good scare, made me feel freaked all over...but never one that just gave me an overwhelming, wonderfully satisfying feeling of fear. Blair Witch freaked me out. Fuck the bouncy camera, that didn't bother me. The whole thing just freaked me in a good way. But I've never felt the need to watch it again, never felt that I would get anything more from repeated viewings. Poltergeist, late in the movie, really ups the freaky factor, and that clown gets me every time. Halloween and the first sequel are a scary-fun time. Anything Romero works well. Some John Carpenter. My roomate got me Evil Dead for Christmas, I'm looking forward to having time to watch it. I've seen a few snippets of Suspiria, so much so that I don't want to see any more, but I think that film could really do it for me (the problem is it'd make me puke, too). Laugh as you might, I think the scariest thing I've seen recently was the Buffy episode Hush. It had jumps, it had overall creepiness, it had some very freaky monsters. If you have any suggestions, offer 'em. I'll try 'em out. But if they were made in America anytime after 1985, I'll bet they won't. Give me Hitch!

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Right on!!!

    by MiserableRainGod

    Some of the other TBers who didn't like The Ring listed some great movies that I completely forgot to mention. Thanks for the reminders, gang!

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Why is this called Ringu?

    by Prattski

    I'm being totally anal about this (but around here it seems only natural), but it just sounds so retarded. It's not Ringu; it's Ring. Plain and simple. I don't get why it's so hard to just call it Ring, even though Ringu is the way the Japanese pronounce it (ri-n-gu, in romanji).

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 9:49 p.m. CST

    another comment in this pointless horror movie debate

    by JustAnotherGuy

    were people giving lists of movies that were scarier than THE RING? Okay, I agree that THE SHINING and ALIEN are much more creepy, but movies like THE EXORCIST, THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, and THE OTHERS...although these are good movies, none of them come close to being as unsettlingly freaky as the RING. I can't understand people who say that it wasn't scary at all, and then list "scarier" movies that I could easily sleep through.

  • Jan. 22, 2003, 11:07 p.m. CST

    jpx, did you even read my post?

    by MiserableRainGod

    If you had, you'd see that Ghost Ship is definitely NOT up my alley. I prefer something a little smarter. Hitchcock. Romero. Some Carpenter. The stuff that was innovative as movies, not just as "horror"; in script, effects, even gore (though usually not acting!). The Ring was not innovative. It was full of itself, of it's own movie-ness. The story was weak, the "creepiness" of it all was forced. I don't care if it had a twist ending. That doesn't make a movie, in itself. It was about 20 minutes too long, the twist was just an excuse for another corpse, of a character that the audience liked. If that's all it takes to impress you, fine, but some of us, some real moviegoers, expect more than just an interesting camera angle. More than a setting where the people are as gray as the landscape. When was this movie smart? Suspenseful? Innovative? Scary? What about the gaping plot hole that all the "fans" of this movie just breeze over? <sarcasm alert> OH MY GOD, it tied up it's loose ends. Every frame of the death video was explained. Oh My! That makes it satisfying! I can connect a ladder to a ladder, so I'm a conscientious film fan. This movie proves to me that I'm smart, so it must be good! Yay!! <end alert> Sorry, jpx, but no. In your previous posts on this thread, what have you offered us except mindless cheer for this movie, and the plot summary that was handed to you by the filmakers themselves during the film? If you liked it, say why! Don't just call me "idiot" for not liking it, while at the same time not being able to argue against a single point of mine, or even make a point yourself. "I love this movie, because the killer video was longer the 25-second Japanese version, and it wasn't lame. Yaaaay!" Yeah, you have a high IQ. Oh yes, I'd also like to shoot down THAT moronic theory of yours. I'm over 20. I work in the pharmaceutical industry. My girlfriend is older than 20 (and older than me, woohoo!). She's a musician and a teacher. My roomate is over 20. He's an engineer. All of us thought that the Ring was a poorly executed horror movie: It didn't scare us, creep us out, or spook us in the least. It tried to hard to be artsy and perfectly photographed (the photography/cinematography was good) and was too in love with itself to have any lasting effect on the horror genre. Kind of like how you're too vague and your insults are too asinine and childish to have much of an effect on this TB, or on my self-worth. Come back when you get a point.

  • Jan. 23, 2003, 1:01 a.m. CST

    The good news...

    by madfigs

    Now that this is out, you can tell your friends who haven't seen the movie to go rent it. Then, when they're at home watching it you can call them, say "Seven days," then hang up. Works better if you can hide outside their window with a a cell phone so you can call right after they're done watching. This may cause a few heart attacks, but you'll all have a good laugh afterwards.

  • Jan. 23, 2003, 2:27 a.m. CST

    ...I prefer something a little smarter. Hitchcock. Romero. Some

    by FlickChick

    Fight ego, with ego. Yup, that'll show him. BTW, I did like like The Ring, and I think liking it has more to do with preference than IQ. The Excorcist bored me, The Shining (only that scene with the man in the bear suit was scary to me...but not in a horror movie sort of way), The Blair Witch was flat rip-off IMO, because it built tension with no pay-off. Movies like Silence of the Lambs, Alien, and The Thing, I consider to be thrillers (designed more for suspense, thrills, and tension, than scares, there is a slight difference IMO). The things that truly terrify me are the original Unsolved Mysteries Theme, that damn clown from Poltergiest, that man in the beginning of the original Night or the Living dead saying "They're coming to get you Barbara.", that shadowed painting from The Others, and Sinnara creeping out of that well in The Ring. That may be strange to some, but like I said before, it's all a matter of preference

  • Jan. 23, 2003, 3:44 a.m. CST


    by ClancyWiggum

    Hey! I love that you picked Twin Peaks, I remember it scaring the bejesus out of me when I saw it. Lynch has always been able to really freak me out.

  • Jan. 23, 2003, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the lists folks.

    by Nice Marmot

    As I said before, I wasn't arguing, I think I'm part of a minority at this site, understanding everyone's opinion w/out flipping my lid & bitchin' up a storm. I don't really agree w/ some of your movies SCARIER than the Ring remake, oh well. I can't believe you listed The Others though. The only slightly disturbing scene is when the girl has the old hag's face under that vail. And nobody mentioned the Changeling. Haven't seen it in years but I remember it freaking me out. Later on. . .

  • Jan. 23, 2003, 9:49 a.m. CST

    my list

    by Parla

    1. Quien puede matar a un ni

  • Jan. 23, 2003, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Easy on us Americans...

    by The_10th_Muse

    ..we jus' don' understand yer edukated talk an' such. Christ. Yes, Americans are all stupid bastards with absolutely no brains and certainly no culture. Tell us something we don't know, why don't you. mean we don't get in to foreign films as much as you hip Europeans? You're kidding! Gee, that is such a surprise. Since you're over there surrounded by all of your different cultures, and the closest thing I have to a another country and culture is damn Canada (and before anyone jumps down my throat that was NOT a bash on the Canadians...). Maybe we are into ourselves a bit too much as a society, but I guess the forefathers made that a certainty what with Manifest Destiny and all. Take it easy on us, man. The Ring was more creepy than scary, and it seemed to seep into my brain more and more as days went by. It was most certainly due to those spooky not-quite-right images. I would find myself looking over my shoulder when I was home alone. That shure is some kinda mind-fuck, ain't it?

  • Jan. 23, 2003, 4:57 p.m. CST

    'You will die in seven days'

    by Chilli Kramer

    Now that you ahve read my message, you will die in seven days. (Disclaimer: Not Actual Curse. No Weird Chick Is Going to Jump Out Of Your TV. Do Not Try To Actually Kill Yourself If Curse Does Not Work. Batteries Not Included.)

  • OK you guys, just thought I would send another message in regarding films that are/aren't scary. Well, fear mostly comes from the sub concious. There are images/ audio clips, specifically designed for each and every one of us, apparently (kind of like our finger prints) that may not appear scary to others, and when confronted with these images, our minds become so shocked that we become some sort of mental person that has to spend our lives in an institute (at the very worst) and in a more mild sort of way, our sleep patterns/ ability with coping being alone at home, can become disrupted. With unsophisticated horror films, they aim for the masses with this-and tire out any effects it can have on us longevity. With more sophisticated horror films (ie david lynch- although he actually makes this seem commercial) they tap into the sub concious- and effect individuals rather than a whole mass, and succeed by gradually making this infectious. An example of this is probably the short video you see in the The Ring (the one that gives you '7 days') And there are many cases of something not supposed to be THAT scary (ie the clown in Poltergeist, the dwarf at the end of Don't Look Now, and if your aware of this- a British 70's tv series called 'TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED'- that has a silouhette of a naked woman dancing in flames whilst evil lounge music plays over the credits- something that has effected all people of my generation who remember this image as a child- I'm not kidding!) that scare the shit out of people far more than the creators ever intended. Furthermore, it's more about the imagery, sometimes even music (as in the eery synth noises in 'Performance' and 'Hardcore' both 70's films). Sometimes it's intresting to question these things, why be so scared of something not meant to be that scary, when your as hard as nails with conventional horror films? If anyone out there understands this, reply and let us know about these kind of things that REALLY FREAK YOU OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 24, 2003, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Caffeine is a drug...Nicotine is a drug...

    by Biggus Dickus

    Who is the toe-head? I really love Twin Peaks-FWWM...great movie.

  • Jan. 24, 2003, 7:14 p.m. CST

    TWIN PEAK.......FWWM

    by Jamalio

    Yeah, like I stated on one of my earlier posts, Twin Peaks FWWM is very much an underated horror film, and a very frightening one at that. Plenty of moments to pick, the one where Laura palmer goes back to her house and sees Bob behind her cupboard, the one where David Bowie walks past the security camera with the frozen image of Dale Cooper in the fore ground (based on his dream), THAT totally freaky, horrific ending (where you simply don't know WHAT the fuck is going on) but hands down, one of the SCARIEST scenes of all time, is the one where Laura hangs THAT painting on her wall (that she gets off that woman outside the diner), and seemingly enters it in her dream. Fuck me, definetly not one to watch when home alone at night.

  • Jan. 24, 2003, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Creepy images in film.

    by Fields of Mars

    For me, the most creepy image in film I can think of is those two twins standing in the hallway in The Shining, saying "hallo Danny." I don't know why but that gives me the heebie-jeebies, I'm shuddering thinking about it.

  • Jan. 26, 2003, 7:22 p.m. CST

    it has to be said

    by frank cotton

    sorry, but SUSPIRIA blew. almost put me to sleep.

  • Jan. 27, 2003, 2:50 a.m. CST

    themikejonas is right on the money ...

    by hensl

    ...abt liking which version u watched first. the remake for me was too hollywoodish - cue in the big scary music, underestimate the intelligence on your audience by explaining every goddamn thing. i would also like to say that the remake actually took elements from not just one movie, the original ring movie, but also from the sequels and prequels following ring, as well as from dark water (done by the guys who did the original ring). and jamalio, i totally get what u're saying, it's the small details that stay in our heads and freak us out. like another guy says, the twin girls in the hallway in the shining still freaks me out. for ring (original), it was the guy with the cloth on his head pointing somewhere in the video - it's not even a traditional "scary" image, but it freaked me out for a loooong time (prob still does)for no good reason. by the way, i came across the somrux website about 6 mths ago when news of the remake was coming up, and can i just say the site was fabulous. just reading it made me all creepy again. great job.

  • Jan. 27, 2003, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Re freaky images in film

    by Jamalio

    I noticed those twins in the Shining seem to freak alot of you guys out. And hensl, I agree 100% about that guy with the cloth in the Ring, that is VERY freaky image. I think it has something to do with the perfect balance of an abstract image being presented in a way that looks as though it came from some ones nightmare and is left COMPLETELY unexplained in the rest of the film. You hardly get to see those twins in the Shining, or hear that much back story on them (the only time you do is when that butler informs Jack in the lav that they were his daughters). I just wish more horror directors would take note of this, thats really all you need- a freaky image guaranteed to get people scratching their heads and give them nightmares and not tell them what the fuck its all about. No motive, no psycho-analysis, no identity, no back story- when the killer who is stalking those kids in their dreams is revealed as Freddy Krueger- well when I was a kid I found this relieving, I wasn't sure why at the time but it's obvious now- he is a fictional character created specifically for the film so I was constantly reminded of this and so it promoted better sleep. Plus, it stops you from detangling the puzzle/mystery yourself as you've already been informed of their backstory motive etc, and their is also less chance you could base the character on personal experience as they have a very specific identity.

  • Jan. 28, 2003, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Speaking of asian horror

    by lethargic_lad

    Has anyone seen the thai flick "the eye"?? I bought this yesterday (I'm in the UK) and it's extremely creepy, there are some genuinely spine chilling moments and the ending is fantastic, to repeat what's been said before, buy a multi-region player and search out tartan video on the net, they release all kinds of extreme asian films from over the top action to horror (they released all the "rings" and battle royale amongst others)

  • Jan. 28, 2003, 8:10 p.m. CST

    RE the eye

    by Jamalio

    Lethargic lad, tis funny you should mention the eye cause i indeed bought it on monday and showed it to my mates and they thought it was amazin. i thought it was good but was honestly expecting a alot more, i guess these films are praised by critics for just being foreign. the ending was great but the first half was'nt half as scary as what i had read in empire (fucking culprits). BTW the ring trilogy is now THE DEFINITIVE horror trilogy ever made (in that each one is great but in its own way- unlike the other trilogies which have great 1st installments but others are shit) but if you could reccomend any more horror to me of this kind worth checking out (i've just seen Tesis, alendro amenabars- the others, first film, the 3/4 scared the absolute fucking shit out of me but then gets mediocre but is still 80% worth checking out).....

  • Jan. 29, 2003, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Re: freaky images and other things...

    by hensl

    by the way, the significance of the guy with the cloth is explained on the somrux website (thanks to the book). i think u make a lot of sense jamalio; now that i think back, the impact of that image HAS been lessened by some explanation behind it. at the same time, it was so compelling that two years after i watched the original, i still was curious to what it meant to bother to find out. forgot to post in reference to disturbed sleeping patterns. when i first watched ring on vcd, i could only sleep facing the wall (any other way would mean i would face either a computer screen or yes, a tv) yes, i'm a wuss. i think there's also a cultural aspect to horror movies. for example, i just watched double vision and i'm not entirely sure that all the taoist rituals and notions of immortality would be relevant to everyone, but for me, that was a disturbing movie. and for all those from asia, isn't sadako's hair reminiscent of all the "pontianak" stories u've heard as a kid. (by the way, i just watched a program on tv abt a real temple in japan which houses several thousand dolls. including one whose hair grows on its own. isn't that just really freaky? shit.) and, honorable mention to ROSEMARY'S BABY, that's definitely in my top ten. i love the ambiguity in it (is it really happening or is it all in her mind?)

  • March 7, 2003, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Re: freaky images and other things...

    by medrury

    The freakiest movie image that sticks in my mind is Rosie O'Donnell in S&M gear in "Exit To Eden'. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!