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CATWOMAN casting update and plot breakdown
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest on that project to make you purrrrr....
First off, I get the idea that many of you haven't a clue who this chap directing CATWOMAN is... His name is Pitof. That's it, no first or last name, just PITOF. Now, believe it or not, he's got "jack" and "shit" to do with the music video world. Rather, he came from behind the scenes of Jeunet & Caro's films like DELICATESSEN and CITY OF LOST CHILDREN. He was the main man in charge of special effects... which means, "the teardrop that changed the world" sequence was executed by him... which means... he's a genius.
Ok, so we've covered that he's an effects genius, but what about as a director. Well, this is the point where I tell you to get an All Region DVD player and head to EBAY and go get a Dvd of VIDOCQ, a brilliant little film that he directed and shot using that Sony High Def camera. The movie is visually unlike anything you have ever seen. Like a moving Bosch/Parrish Jam piece, the characters, the colors and the story all just leap out at you and the main villain is about as wonderfully comic book as you can get. The movie is a visual stunner and is a good mystery to boot.
Ok, so here's where things become... Hollywood. Warner Brothers and Denise Di Novi saw VIDOCQ and correctly thought, "He's Perfect For CATWOMAN!!!" Now, they had already attached Ashley Judd to play CATWOMAN, but she won't be playing Selina Kyle. In fact, there is no Selina Kyle. Nope, this time, Catwoman's secret identity is Patience Price. And of course there is no Batman this time out and the film isn't even set in Gotham City.
The location has picked up and moved to LAKE CITY and features a former Gotham City detective by the name of Tom Lone, who'll be played by Owen Wilson. He picked up and moved out of Gotham City because he was tired of the whole Superhero/Supervillain thing. He wanted to go where the crime remained pedestrian and the villains stopped when ya pointed guns. I mean seriously, can you imagine going to a Police Academy then having to round up a ton of penquins with dynamite strapped to their backs, or getting cakes with springing out RIDDLES? Well... apparently neither could poor Tom Lone.
So up he moves to Lake City, and no sooner than he gets there than the biggest slinkiest crouching pussy of them all shows up burgling this and that. How perturbing. Well, it ain't all that bad. I mean, at least he has a mousy prospective girlfriend next door... ya know, his neighbor... Her name is Patience Price.
Ya know, at some weird level I suppose this could be fun. And come to think of it, with Pitof's direction, I can imagine it being a lot of fun. All depends how it comes together. Hmmmm...
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i'm on mescaline.
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...That truly horrible script I read through on the Internet a couple years back. "Captain God", was it? Puh-lease.
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this has 'D U N G' written all over it, with mr hanky as the pen.
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Jan 18, 2003 2:19:24 AM CST
This sounds like the worst idea since greedo shooting first
by mr.benellis
This script sounds like the early wrtings on Akiva Goldsmith. The man who manged to kill the batman seris with batman and robin. I think it would be better with junet directing it. Becuase he brings beauty to the screen this guy brings nothing but a bad script to the fold. Hopefully this will be as visually beautful as delicatessen. actully heres my adivce to warner bros. let Yann Tersen do the score . Amile was brillant so why not catwoman
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this actually sounds good.....
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Grando sez: sounds cheezy
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Could be interesting....
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Catwoman with no Batman = movie with no audience.
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ha! there's a lake city, Florida...and it's the biggest po-dunk hick town ever. there's nothing but trailers with washing machines in the overgrown front lawn. and i swear, there's got to be inbreeding going on, because there's an inordinant number of mutated, retarded and/or handicapped kids there.
good to know Catwoman lives there.
but hey, as long as she's wearing that tight leather suit, i'm happy. -
Jan 18, 2003 2:51:55 AM CST
They already ruined Catwoman with BATMAN RETURNS. Now this. Why
by theyounglion
...screw with the origins of established characters? I absolutely HATED what they did with Catwoman in "Batman Returns": She falls out of a tall building to the pavement below. Ouch, she's dead! No, wait -- a gang of cats are walking all over her! Now she's alive -- and she's Catwoman! I mean, honestly, could they have done the character any dumber than that? Even within the realm of the Batman world, that was mighty stupid!! Not before or since has the super-natural been so blatantly apart of the Batman movies. The moment her eyes popped open like the Bride of Frankenstein ("She's not dead anymore...She's Catwoman!!!") they lost me. What hurt even more was that the origin of Catwoman as established in the comics (particularly the contemporary take on the character), as a highly skilled kick-ass cat burgler trying to shed the scars of a horrible childhood, is so damn good! Anyway, I never really cared so much about all the talk of Catwoman spin-off films because of that dumb origin in "Batman Returns." But then I heard that the Catwoman in the new franchise would not be the Catwoman from "Returns," and I had hope. Only, I didn't think they literally meant that the Catwoman in the new film WOULD NOT BE SELENA KYLE!! I mean, really, how could there be ANY point to taking a well-known character, completely wiping away her identity, and making her someone else? It's like taking Superman and giving him the birth name Luxor Draxel instead of Kal-El. Yeah, I know Catwoman has nowhere near the cultural impact as Superman. (EVERYONE knows at least the barest details of Superman's origin; I doubt that 999 out of 1,000 people on the street knows Catwoman's.) But still, it's the same idea. Where's the need in dumping Selena Kyle. The laypersons who will go see the movie might not know who she is. But the sizeable audience of comic readers will. Why alienate them?
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Why? Who cares? I mean, really, before this talkback degenerates, as it inevitably will, over differences in established character's continuity, lets all ask ourselves: Who cares? Its Catwoman, for god's sake. Sounds like she's still a thief, so other than that, what does the rest matter?
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I don't think they were going for the supernatural in BATMAN RETURNS. Selena Kyle didn't drop straight to the ground, her fall was broken by several canopies outside of Shreck's building, meaning she survived what should have been a fatal drop by pure luck. Selena Kyle would have snapped her eyes open and walked away from the alley anyway except for the fact that she was 'damaged'. She snapped, suffered a total mindfuck due to the recent events in her life (being treated like scum by her superiors, mocked by her boss and purposely shoved out the window of a very tall building). Do you remember Shreck's logo, the image that was printed on the multiple canopies she tore through before slamming into the ground? A freakin' cat. That whole alley thing was supposed to be symbolic not supernatural... least I think so. Anyone wanna back me up on this one?
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what are we talking about?
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my cat's breath smells like cat food...
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i say just start the batman movies all over again...i'll just pretend that the last 4 batman movies were never made. what batman movies?
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She is Catwoman afterall... little worried about this... and I'm a huge Catwoman buff.
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but why the name change? I can live with the change in city, but you can't change the name of a comic book character's alter ego!!! You just can't! Well apparently you can, but it sucks and it's stupid. Though the new name is kinda cool. But I still don't like it. I look forward to eventually seeing a teaser trailer to this and being able to judge a few images. Oh, and Delicatessan and City of Lost Children rule.
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I respect your interpretation of Catwoman's fall in "Batman Returns," Psyclops. I can see how your take could make sense in the world that they set up. Still, I interpret it that she actually died, and then some hocus-pocus that was never fully explained -- save for the cats walking over her body -- brought her back. Also, I remembered that what equally annoyed me about that take on the character was that she was this bumbling, unskilled introvert before the "transformation" -- and then suddenly she had skills. Criminal skills, fighting skills, death-defying acrobatic skills, etc. It made no sense. No pent up frustration could manifest itself in such a way, even in that world. I mean, Bruce Wayne didn't suddenly have his detective, fighting, and acrobatic skills the moment he suffered the shock of seeing his parents killed. He spent years and years training and developing those skills. The Joker, Riddler, Two-Face -- none of them had physical skills after their criminal transformation that they didn't have beforehand. It was their changed mental states that exascerbated things. Yet Selena Kyle, in an instant, went from a scared, weak sponge with no skills to a warrior who could go toe to toe with Batman (and draw blood); and who could leap across rooftops with ease. Actually, I believe this sudden, inexplicable change lends credence to my super-natural interpretation.
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Jan 18, 2003 3:53:32 AM CST
This "could be fun?" Batman and Robin was "fun" and look what ha
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 3:58:09 AM CST
I mean, look at Birds of Prey. An excellent opportunity was pres
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 4:03:56 AM CST
This story really pisses me off. Why is it that every Hollywood
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 4:05:43 AM CST
Read Batman: Year One by Frank Miller. THAT'S Catwoman!!!
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 4:09:00 AM CST
Oh, and while we're at it, let's replace her bullwhip with a bla
by darthridiculous
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Everything he said, I agree 110%.
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For those without a region-free PAL/NTSC player, a region 1 NTSC version has been released in Canada. The movie is subtitled in English but all the extras are raw French.
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great movie
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Jan 18, 2003 6:59:24 AM CST
Yes, i too am FELINE this could be CATastrophic. It sounds like
by jabbathenutt
ah what do i care as long as i get to see ashley in that leather outfit?
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Selinas "death" in the movie is metaphorical, not literal. There's nothing to say that she actually died... no elements that are overtly supernatural. Although I do agree with the other guy who said it's unlikely that such a traumatic experience would give her new skills, but that's just a failure of logic in the script.********** Now The Penguin... *that's* the origin they fucked up, making him a mutant instead of a short fat guy.
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jeez, lighten up people. did anyone seriously expect batman to ever appear in this movie at all? cos i certainly didnt, that's why the movie's called CATWOMAN, not batman and catwoman, or whatever. now, this sounds like it could be a lot of fun if done right, what with the implied romance between wilson and judd, not to mention some, i'm sure, kick-ass action scenes. i'll happily give $100 to anyone who can name a bad owen wilson film/performance..hey even if it does suck he'sd reason enough to see it. chill out and let the guys make the film before you scream at them because they changed the character's name.
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Jan 18, 2003 7:55:16 AM CST
Why can't DC be more like Marvel? These movie ideas for Catwoma
by mister falcon
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... CGI-fest comic book adaptation in search of a franchise. Catwoman II: The Search For Pussy.
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And honestly I would watch anything by this director. I grew up on comic books and still enjoy them. I'm always amused when they make comic books into movies, and delighted when one turns out fun, (like X-Men, and Spider-Man.) Under most directors a movie on Catwoman wouldn't interest me in the least, but this will be interesting. No more Superman or Batman movies is a good thing. People who actually care about this stuff really puzzle me. Superheroes seem pretty goofy these days when you stand them up against charcters from movies like the Matrix. Am I the only one who thinks people fighting crime in those suits is just silly? How can we take it seriously and get so worked up about it like they are real people and their stories are history? I mean, Ok it's fair to get angry with Warner Bros. for their contempt for creative filmmaking and movie making as an art, but the bottom line is comic book characters are silly and they look silly in movies and if you take it all with a grain of salt then you won't have a heart attack over this stuff before your fifty. Will I see "Daredevil?" Sure, but do I think it will equal my memories of the characters? No. Elektra's costume has been changed and it's Ben Affleck hasn't impressed me in the past, (except in Shakespeare in Love.) Truth be told, the real crime here isn't that the studios change these characters, it's that they don't just come up with original stories and concepts anymore, (not that the American general public would appreciate a genuine story or something new. If most of you talkbackers got the ideal movie you have been watching in your heads, you'd still bitch and be unhappy, because that is the nature of these boards sadly. Not enough positive or constructive discussion on movies, but a lot of immature and insulting remarks. If you shed your expectations and clear your polluted minds, you can enjoy any movie. I watched "Blue Crush" last night and found a lot about it I really enjoyed. Whatever. I stopped posting about 5 months ago because I was tired of seeing people rip on Harry. He is smarter and more movie savvy than anyone gives him credit for and I really enjoy coming here, and am thankful for this site.
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Jan 18, 2003 9:48:20 AM CST
Actually, Big Kahuna, I'm not upset so much over a simple name c
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 9:51:29 AM CST
Batman should at least make a cameo appearance. Something brief.
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 10:14:33 AM CST
I agree the villain's origins in Batman Returns weren't as good
by darthflagg
I know comic fans resent any change in movie adaptations, even if it's an improvement, but come on. Burton made Catwoman and The Penguin psychologically interesting characters, which they never were in the comic or TV show. Catwoman was cool, but just the typical "bad girl", and the Penguin was just a boring guy with an umbrella who quacks a lot. Oooooo, scary! Making them a scizophrenic feminist vigilante and a outcast mutant freak, respectively, gave the characters a depth they didn't have previously, which is why Batman Returns is still the best of the series, and possibly the best comic book movie ever. IMHO, of course.
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Now change the characters back to Selina Kyle in Gotham City, what people actually WANT to SEE. This could be bigger than people think. Ashley Judd is probably the wrong person, though. Did PITOF use much color ?
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Or cheesey in the bad way, or cheap. Right now, the script is typical pedestrian garbage, the director sounds unique and fun, as the film should remain.
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if you think a movie about a woman-cat couldn't be dull and typical... well...it can. I say.
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Jan 18, 2003 10:40:23 AM CST
Credit IGN FilmForce with this story since you essentially copie
by james bookman
Here's what they wrote yesterday. Look at the wording of their plot synopsis and then at Harry's. Right down to the words "mousy neighbor." Credit other sites when you glean info, Harry. That's why you end up with so many people who don't like or trust you!
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/383/383018p1.html
IGN FilmForce Exclusive: Catwoman Start Date
We've found out when filming begins!
January 17, 2003 - IGN FilmForce has learned that Superman isn't the only DC comic book film the studio plans on shooting this year. Catwoman will finally begin filming later this spring or in early summer for a 2004 release. As IGN FilmForce exclusively reported awhile back, French filmmaker Pitof will helm the feline fatale's big-screen solo adventure with Ashley Judd cast as the title character. Denise DiNovi (Batman Returns) will produce Catwoman. The screenplay has been worked on by both Kate Kondell (Valentine) and John Rogers (The Core).
Owen Wilson has been rumored to co-star but whether or not he remains interested in the project is uncertain. According to Entertainment Weekly, Wilson begins filming Starsky & Hutch (opposite pal Ben Stiller) this March.
This Catwoman will not be "Selina Kyle" as she is in the DC Comics and was in Batman Returns. The film follows orphaned veterinary scientist Patience Price's (Judd) vendetta against industrialist Simon Church, the man whose corporate assassins "killed" her. She wants to find out why and exact her revenge. Lake City is shocked that a new Catwoman is prowling their streets (but they're also thrilled to finally have their burg on the celebrity map). Detective Tom Lone (Wilson?), is the point man in the police's Catwoman investigation. Lone doesn't realize, however, that his prey also happens to be his mousy next door neighbor and prospective girlfriend, Patience Price. -
i loved the Catwoman script with "captain God." If they got Tim Burton to direct that, THEN they'd have a Catowman movie on their hands. The purists still wouldn't be happy, since its sort of a sequel to Batman Returns(its written by the same guy) but at least that was Selina Kyle.
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... the plot still sounds derivative and uninteresting. I mean, not another neighbour who "is more than they seem." It seems to me that any police investigation should start by arresting the next door neighbour. It's about time that this particular cat was taken to the vets and spayed.
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The name change could just be a name that Selena is using while out of Gotham (don't most people in gotham know that Selena Kyle is Catwoman?) so that she doesn't attract attention. She could be incognito, but still really Selena...at least that's what I'm telling myself.
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...to cash in.Why not go with the current ideas in the comic?The book is new,without pissing all over the past.But this movie's plot has no past.And as I see it,NO FUTURE.Like my dad always said,"If you're not going to do a job right,don't do it at all".
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This doesn't sound like it would be that bad of a movie. My only concern is that if they think they need to change Catwoman's name to something as dumb as "Patience Price," what else are they going to change?
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Jan 18, 2003 12:44:51 PM CST
WB Execs smoking too much pipe and not grounded on Earth yet.
by monkey_king
When they "come down", we'll probably never know, but their raping of classic superheroes and heroines on the bigscreen is getting worse. A Wonder Twins movie? Jesus Jumped Up Christ is that a "some dickhead thought this was a good idea" film to avoid like the plague. 'Superman:The Flight' brings to mind 'Flight of the Intruder' or Navigator(was J.J. Abrams script retitled?). CatWoman without Selina Kyle as Catwoman would BOMB BADLY and get sent to the bargain bin just as fast as Glazer's STEEL film did a few years back. Let the cartoon guys have a go at a live feature division devoted to the superhero properties owned by the WB/AOL. Alan Burnett, Bruce Timm and Paul Dini would do wonders and make them lots of dollars if Warners would wake from their drug induced haze and snap out of it.
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It could be good. I think the origin should be different then that of the movie though. Maybe have the PP idolize the old catwoman (SK) because she is a strong independent woman. Something that she herself is not becuase she is constantly physically abused by boyfriend, father, or husband. Eventually, adopting the catwoman persona (in a disociative way) and becoming a thief helps her deal with her anger and feelings of helplessness. Of course she will be making hell out of the life of the new cop at the same time being attracted to him (perhaps he arrested her abussive significant other). Of course at the end she leaves it all to move to gothum, sad ending but filled with hope, PP has evaded the cops and her abuser.
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Catwoman 2 will be "Catwoman 2: The Wrath of Cock." (The villian will be a little seen character called the Rooster). Catwoman 3 will be "Catwoman 3: The Search for Dick." (Robin ends up dying in "Wrath of Cock" and this is Catwoman's attempt to find him since he's come back to life.) "Catwoman 4: The One With The Fucking Whales" will come out next. (Mr. Freeze kidnaps Roseanne and Marlon Brando to bred an army of superwhales with.) Then we'll have "Catwoman 5: The Vaginal Frontier" (Selina? Pregnant? No matter, it will be the worst of the series since Shatner directs.) "Catwoman 6: The Undercover Kitty" will be hailed as a fond farewell to the series. A few years later, it returns with "Catwoman 7: Gyrations" (Catwoman finds an heir to her mantle in the form of a stripper.) "Catwoman 8: Fist Contact" will be the first film devoted to the new Catwoman. "Catwoman 9: Insertion" follows that, and sucks. Finally, WB announces the franchise dead with the release of "Catwoman 10: Penis Sis", the film where a hermaphrodite clone of the Catwoman attempts to destroy the city.
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and give him/her a blimp. Seriously, I had enough doubts about this project when I thought it would be set in Gotham City (didn't expect to see Batman at all). This sounds rediculous.
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Jan 18, 2003 4:33:54 PM CST
It's things like this that make me fear the possiblity of a Wond
by noriko takaya
I love wonder Woman and would love to see her on the big screen--especially if they did the George Perez storyline of several years back--but not if they're gonna screw her over like they apparently are poor Catwoman. I hope that WW is at least so big of a cultural icon that they can't eff with her origin. Now I'm gonna go hunt down this Vidocq thing. Toppu o Nerae!
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...love to proclaim that they never even looked at the source material.
It's a show of force, a way of saying that writers are insignificant. -
Jan 18, 2003 6:01:35 PM CST
the thought of Ashley Judd as Catwoman is quite delicious but...
by red raider
...like so many other hollywood boneracks, Judd has thinned up so much! She's not quite as "curvacious" as she once was. Will she even compare to how hot Michelle Pfeiffer looked in that tight, black leather? Hmmmmmmm........ _____Personally, I think it's ironic(and tragic) that Warner Bros. have two men on their payoll who could single-handedly rescue the whole cinematic superhero franchise for the studio, yet they haven't even given them the slightest thought. You know of whom I speak. Dini & Timm. ______Memo to the execs at Warner Bros: WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!
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Selina Kyle is Catwoman. She lives in Gotham City. Thats it.
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When Hollywood folks admit to reading tons and tons of the background material and still fuck it up. I just rented An Evening with Kevin Smith last night and his entire "No costume, no flying, and the third act has to have a huge fucking spider!" story was a treat. "You know why we both get Superman? Because we're from the street..."
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but I seem to be missing the part where this is a Catwoman picture.
sounds like it would be an interesting movie.
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The words Gotham, City, Selina, and Kyle are absolutely, positively, without a doubt THE MOST IMPORTANT aspects of the Catwoman character. If those four words are not included, then the whole thing is sunk, right?
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Where's my $100?
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Jan 18, 2003 7:22:18 PM CST
Why are people so intent on making excuses for the rape of a per
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 7:25:32 PM CST
Hell, she even has her own comic book series. I'm pretty sure a
by darthridiculous
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Jan 18, 2003 7:27:29 PM CST
Stay TRUE to the material. Those creators don't deserve to have
by darthridiculous
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Needed a lot of work.
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Jan 18, 2003 11:47:11 PM CST
I actually liked Batman Returns... and i know you'll all attack
by bjc0410
It was sad, dark and desperate... It didn't stick to the source maerial but i actually didn't mind it because to me the story worked.
Watch it again. Maybe i'm wrong... maybe it's that the schumacher movies sucked so badly that in comparison the Burton movies look like Orson welles in comparison...whatever -
for a guy who doesn't like comics you sure pop into all the comic related posts...
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I like the sound of this "Catwoman" movie that Pitof will be directing. I have a feeling that the people trashing the idea haven't seen "The City of Lost Children." The visual style will be intense, reminiscent of a darker Terry Gilliam. And, in all honesty, I could give a FUCK if Gotham City isn't used. I applaud this decision wholeheartedly. The people truly hellbent on not liking this film are the truly pedantic; you know who you are, and we've already heard from you about eighty times in this talkback. It will be a superhero movie that isn't just for pedantic snapperheads, ideologues, and brain-dead action-movie freaks. Sweet.
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Jan 19, 2003 1:06:08 AM CST
I can't go to this party if Batmans not going to be there
by theginger twit
Next we'll have leathal weapon 5 - Danny glover going it alone to avenge the death of his partner. yahh.
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True, Catwoman has been around for a long time, but in actuality for the majority of that time she was shelved as a character because the fans didn't like her. Just FYI.
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The concept sounds lame. And Selina Kyle ISN'T Catwoman? Dare I say, WTF? I mean, that's like having someone OTHER than Bruce Wayne be Batman in a Batman movie. Okay, okay, in Batman Beyond Terry McGinnis is Batman but at least Bruce is there to give him pointers. Selina has to be involved in SOME way. Or they should explain why she is out of the picture and this new girl is Catwoman. Maybe she's a copycat (heh, heh, what a delicious pun, heh). anyway, I won't knock it till I've seen it, but so far, aside from hearing Owen Wilson and Ashley Judd is involved, it doesn't look too good. Ashley Judd as Catwoman should be interesting though, I look forward to that.
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WHO THE FUCK IS PATIENCE PRICE??!?!?
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This is actually the plot for Pussywoman starring Asia Carrera and Michael J. Cox. sk
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Why did they have to change Catwoman?! It isn't Catwoman without Selina Kyle! They better change this big error before fans get upset! You just don't get it, do you WB?
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I still don't get why they won't use Selina Kyle! Will someone help me on this! What is the big deal? Selina Kyle has been the only Catwoman for the last 50 years.You use Catwoman you use Selina Kyle! Simple enough?
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