Are They Casting For LEMONY SNICKET Now'!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
I haven’t read these books, but I’m thinking about picking them up soon just so I know what they’re talking about as we start to get in reports on this. We heard from one of our friends in North Carolina that Paramount is locking up studio space out there for what they’re calling the first in a “Jim Carrey trilogy.” And someone else just e-mailed us something that has to be treated as extreme rumor. If you’re a fan of the books, then maybe these names make sense to you...
Joan Cusack as Aunt Josephine?
Emma Thompson as Justice Strauss?
And what does it mean that Johnny Depp might be playing Lemony Snicket himself? Isn’t Snicket the author of the books? And, yes, I know it’s a pseudonym. But is Snicket also a character in the books?
If this cast joins the already announced Jim Carrey as Count Olaf, it sounds like they’re putting together a groovy group of people for this new contender to POTTER’s throne...
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Dec. 12, 2002, 7:47 a.m. CST
Get the most twisted cast imaginable! And Snicket's "voice" is so strong in the books, having him narrate at the very least is a great idea!
Dec. 12, 2002, 8:07 a.m. CST
Wow! I love the books but have always imagined a claymation approach - or something akin to the Nightmare before Christmas look to them, simply because Brett Helquist's illustrations are simply wonderful. Also - how are they going to do Sunny - a razor sharp toothed baby? Please go for an animated approach - otherwise I won't get quite as excited. Lemony Snicket narrates the book and there are constant references to him but I would heartily recommend you read the books, even the biography of Lemony Snicket himself, which is a real hoot. A wonderful series of books but surely animation is the way?
Dec. 12, 2002, 8:12 a.m. CST
Someone please tell me who's thinking of putting Carrey as Olaf. if that happens - there will be trouble!!!! He just doesn't have it!! NO Chance. Moriarty's drawing is closer!!!! Someone will have to be taught a lesson if they cast this ridiculously unfunny oaf as Olaf, (Carrey - ot Moriarty you understand)
Dec. 12, 2002, 9:21 a.m. CST
c'mon LIVE ACTION??? it's a STUPID KID's book. Having a person with a hook for a hand is stupid. Having a kid with glasses looking all nerdy and stuff is stupid (think alfalfa with glasses). Animation can be stupid without looking stupid, live action stupidity is just stupid. (i used stupid 6 times HA!!)
Dec. 12, 2002, 9:23 a.m. CST
Or do we? Ehhh...I'm confusing myself...I withdraw my question...
Dec. 12, 2002, 9:28 a.m. CST
Extreme? It may not be definite, but Paramount guys have been here for months, they have offices at the Wilmington based Screen Gems studios, and deposits have been paid to hold the space. I believe the other major candidate was Canada (probably Vancouever). while no final decision has been made, it certainly seems likely that it could end up in NC. One of my friends from the one TV show in town (Dawson's Creek) told me "we got the date we have to be out by so the Snicket guys can start set building." I'd hardly say that was 'extreme' And i'm in the same boat as Mori, i have not read the books and have to wonder if a trilogy of films based on a series of books ive never heard of is a wise move. Guess i'll have to read the source material to find out
Dec. 12, 2002, 9:44 a.m. CST
I was just reading info on a Jim Carrey site and apparently Barry Sonnenfeld has signed up as director, Lemony Snichket himself has done the screenplay which is a mix of the first threee books in the series. I'm still not veryhappy about Carrey playing Olaf. Lance henriksen anyone? He even looks liek Olaf!!! and is a damn sight scarier too. The books are superb but as long as the darkness and black humour is kept this could be really special. The wolrd of the Baudellaire's should make wondrous sets, but Carrey? Come on (I'll stop going on about this now)
Dec. 12, 2002, 10:33 a.m. CST
I'm a librarian and I've read these books, and I talk to the kids that love them, and they deserve the loving touch of Tim Burton.(pre-Apes) They're creepy Dickensian satire for kids, and Jim Carrey is going to make this film into a slam bang monstrosity instead of the gruesome creep-fest they should be. Casting Jim Carrey as Count Olaf is like casting Dana Carvey as Gandalf. Shudder.
Dec. 12, 2002, 10:37 a.m. CST
I'm with the librarian! Someone kidnap Sonnenfeld and Carrey, throw them in a crate and throw the crate, in turn off Damacles dock - then get the script to tim Burton and pray to the Eye that whatever happens with this - it's made into the magical thing it should be.
Dec. 12, 2002, 11:45 a.m. CST
are these books anyway? potter they ain't
Dec. 12, 2002, noon CST
Kathy Bates as Justice Strauss, the kind old lady next door. But that's just me.
Dec. 12, 2002, 1:12 p.m. CST
First of all, I read all 9 of the currently released Snicket books. I had heard amazing things about them. Huge accolades. What I got were some nice light reading, but nothing to write home about. The Potter books create an amazing Universe. The Snicket books have a nice cynical edge, but they ultimately amount to very little. The mystery is not that great (yes, I understand they are for children, but so's Potter, and who could EVER guess the endings of Goblet of Fire?), but they just aren't that amazing of a read. No where near the Chronicles of Narnia, or anything by Roald Dahl, however, I will say they do have their moments. Combining the first three books into one film is very smart, as is letting Daniel Handler (SNicket himself, the writer) do the screenplay. And here's where I disagree with you all, Carrey is PERFECT for Olaf. He can be sneaky, mean, and easily turn himself into doezens of characters and personalites. If you don't believe me, watch the Grinch and Me, Myself and Irene (Arguable, Carrey's best role for me, that's just a perosnal opinion). Carrey's Hank Vs. Charlie is the only set piece you need to see that he is indeed a perfect fit for this film. Also, Cusack as Josephine and Thompson as Justice Strauss are very interesting casting choices, and I'm curious to see how Addams Family Sonnenfeld makes this. I think he can do it.
Dec. 12, 2002, 1:53 p.m. CST
People, there is more going on out there than LOTR and SW. So the Hollywood bozos (and tons of little kids) beat you to reading the freshest juvenile lit since Huck Finn? These books are tiny masterpieces and whup up all over the oversold Harry Potter. And when are you guys going to get your heads out about Harry, anyway? You're all drinking the Kool-Aid. About the only thing I want to read from JK Rowling is a note that says, "Come and do me." A Series Of Unfortunate Events rules them all!
Dec. 12, 2002, 4:27 p.m. CST
The books are double-plus good. The only one here who's underwhelmed by them loved Jim Carrey in the Grinch...no more need be said. Jim Carrey wil fuck up the movie, sure, but Johnny Depp is a pretty great choice for L Snickett. Cusack's annoying, too. If Tim Burton hadn't lost it, he'd be a perfect choice to direct. Let's hope it never gets made.
Dec. 12, 2002, 4:43 p.m. CST
Well, the guy who writes the books does, anyway. It's just wishful thinkin' to get Depp to play him.
Dec. 12, 2002, 7:04 p.m. CST
They are indeed books. I first encountered them about two years ago, and read parts of the first couple. Potter they indeed ain't. I was one of the first customers to buy Potter in this country, and that series has been a big hit with my youngest. I am not personally a Potter fan, but after all they are children's books. I thought the SNICKET series might be of interest to her as well, but it is clear they were not written for children. They are a series of satires, which if made into films in this country will be equivalent to DEATH. Satire is what closes out of town on a Saturday night. In the U.S., that is. Brits appreciate satire more, I admit.
Dec. 12, 2002, 7:51 p.m. CST
Of course, many people are still unaware of the disturbing charm of these books.Why? because people believe the hype that the Harry Potter series is the only children's series worth reading. They're pretty good, but I still haven't seen the second movie because I seriously can't stand that little actor. Anyhow, The Snickett books are a hoot. Other good children's books worth reading are Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials series, which I think is being made into a film in the U.k., but don't quote me on that. Also, still have a place in my heart for John Fitzgerald's Great Brain series, which should be made into a good movie(a bad one was made in 78?) They also recently reissued the old Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew mysteries in very much the original binding and art. Anyway, if your kids enjoyed Harry Potter's books and can't wait 97 years for the next installment, grab some of these for christmas.
Dec. 12, 2002, 8:02 p.m. CST
I found these books moderately amusing, but they are too childish for an adult. The constant, intrusive, vocabulary lessons alone put them in a different class from the Potter books, which are much richer. They could certainly be made into a decent movie, however, and Jim Carey is obviously talented even though his Oeuvre lacks quality. If you want to read some newer "children's books" that definitely stand up to the classics (and are much more sophisticated than the highly enjoyable Potter books), try Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" trilogy. New Line is supposedly turning these into movies, hopefully they will do them right.
Dec. 12, 2002, 10:13 p.m. CST
by Smeg For Brains
All that means is that it is going to be Jim Carey, as awful as he is, under a shit load of makeup, hamming it up. Terrible. They should get the guy who played Krank in The City of Lost Children. If he speaks english anyway. Also these books are not at all comparable to Harry Potter. Sure the film studios are eyeing them as the next Potter like franchise, but they are not at all similar. I hate it when people assume that they are a Potter rip off. Not at all. Totally different sensibility. Harry Potter didn't create the market you know.
Dec. 12, 2002, 11:36 p.m. CST
These books are freakin' great!!! But it would suck if they tried to make the movies G-rated, since they really aren't kiddie books. I don't know if I can see Jim Carrey as Count Olaf, but I can see Johnny Depp as Lemony Snicket...if we never see his face. Snicket could narrate the movies, but we're not supposed to know what he looks like. Aunt Josephine doesn't come along until the third book, so I can see they are planning the whole trilogy.
Dec. 13, 2002, 1:39 a.m. CST
If Paramount wants something to battle Harry Potter with, this series can't possibly be it. The writing is so incredibly condescending, and the first story is resolved with the absolute stupidest plot point in the history of bad storytelling. How the hell did The Bad Beginning get published in the first place?
Dec. 13, 2002, 3:50 a.m. CST
This could totally rock as a film or series thereof. And I think that Carrey has it in him to be a rather fab Count Olaf - remember, the miracles of make-up can make him look the part, and I think he's a good enough actor to pull off the rest. As for the books, I think they're great, but when I bought one for my little cousins they and my aunt hated it. Despite the clear warnings, they were waiting for a happy ending, and were extremely disappointed when not one good thing happened to those kids in the entire book. When I told them that nothing good happened in the eight I had read, they pretty much gave up. I just worry that audiences will do the same. Having said that, I really want to learn more about Lemony and dear darling dead Beatrice.
Dec. 13, 2002, 7:07 a.m. CST
Anyone who describes the writing in Series of Unfortunate Events as "childish" and "condescending" has obviously never heard of a little thing called "irony" or "satire". :) I agree that I always thought that the books would be better adapted into animation than live action. I mean, how do they plan to do Sunny? I doubt the average infant actor would have the range or athletic ability to play her. If Sunny becomes another full-CG mockery of creation like Gollum or Dobby, I'm going to be so grossed out. Jim Carrey as Count Olaf is... worrying, to say the least. But I'm quite excited at the idea of Johnny Depp as Lemony Snicket.
Dec. 13, 2002, 10:01 p.m. CST
Oh, can I see *that* causing controversy in the Bible Belt. God is evil and underage sex saves creation-!!!
Dec. 18, 2002, 1:57 a.m. CST
by Cajun Lightning
I read the second one, I believe, at work (I worked in a book store) out of sheer curiosity. I saw the way kids were scarfing them down and the illustrations and macabre titles interested me. I concluded that these are definately children's books. Excellent children's books to be sure. If I were in fact a child, I would eat this shit up with a spoon. But I think they are just that. They lack the ambition of the Potter books and Dahl's knack for mixing equal parts wit and whimsey. But there's nothing wrong with that. There should be things in this world that don't work on nine levels. Kids need things to work soley on their level once in a while. I think if you give a project like this to Sonnenfeld, he will try to make it into some sort of wacky, Addams Family, blockbuster. Burton is essentially a big kid. He really should have this movie. And yeah, it should be animated. A CGI baby is about seven kinds of creepy, and not one of them the charming kind. But oh well.
Dec. 18, 2002, 11:33 a.m. CST
... here a word used to mean "constantly interupts the narrative flow with stupid vocabulary lessons that the author thinks of as a really cute and clever writing device, but are really just annoying".
Dec. 30, 2002, 1:19 p.m. CST
by Sparky Bark Bark
I am eight years old! Let me be very clear...These books ARE for everyone - kids and adults!! You never want to stop reading til you get to the end. The only kid who wouldn't like it is one who doesn't understand what hoping and believing and looking for the silver lining is about! The books always end good..can't you understand its good when they survive each obstacle Count Olaf presents to them. No matter what he tries...they always manage to be safe again. It's a never ending series of adventure and I just love them. Good books don't always end happy! They end making you think and making you want to know more and more about the subject! My Uncle Steve read one of them (he's in film making)when he visited me for Thanksgiving and he could see that it would make a great movie. I'm only eight so I'm not sure about all these actors they're suggesting, but I don't understand how ANY actor could play Sunny. She's just a little baby - sweet, cuddly, cute (but she has very very VERY sharp teeth) and she's never a problem. I don't know a kid who could play that, or an adult who would know how to make a baby like that! I think Lemony Snicket writes GREAT books!! Sparky Bark Bark
Jan. 6, 2003, 2:28 a.m. CST
For those who think these books are NOT children's books, you are absolutely wrong. An interview (http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1108/p16s01-almo.html ) even states, "t comes as no surprise to Handler that, just as they've adopted the Harry Potter books, adults have been known to read the Snicket series. "I hope they're reading them because they're interesting," he says with a laugh. But, says Handler, this doesn't change the fact that they are children's literature. "My books come from a tradition of Gothic literature for children, where the adults are greedy and corrupt," he says. So there you go on that subject. And for those of you who are whining that the books suck because there are no happy endings, and you were disappointed while reading them- HELLO, did you realy read them that close? The first line of the series states, "If you are interested in stories with happy endings, you would be better off reading some other book." So, get over it, and reliaze these books will have staying power. I mean, they're only New York Times Best sellers.
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