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Euro-AICN Special Report: Grozilla talks with Peter Jackson in Paris

Published at:  Dec 11, 2002 11:28:14 AM CST

This just in from Paris and our man on the scene Grozilla...




Grozilla here...

Peter Jackson has started his European TTT promotion
marathon in Paris this afternoon. What follows is what he and some others said to me at the Paris press party...


Those films (Lord of the Rings) are of course three chapters of the same story.
But did you work on different shaping for each of them to
make each one special ?

PJ... Trilogies always have a particular structure : the first
establishes the characters, the situation of the journey. I
think it's the job of the second chapter to basically add more
danger to the story, make heroes journey much more
difficult as the forces of darkness are closing in. So by the
time the second chapter come to an end, you really don't
see how they're gonna achieve their mission. That,
obviously establishes things for the third chapter which is
hopefully some kind of triumphant conclusion. I think a
trilogy has to have that natural structure, so I found The two
towers has by nature to be more intense and darker,
because it has to fulfill that role.

Can you give us an idea of how big a part of your life this is.
What does it is really mean for you, to you ?

PJ... As a project, it's become probably one of the most signifiant
events in my life. I'm fully aware of that. By the time I finish
next year the work on The return of the king, that will be
seven years I spent on it. As a filmaker, seven years is a
large portion of your working life. Anyway, for anybody
adapting The lord of the rings, it would demande that
degree of time to do it with justice. I'm happy to do it even if I
know it's the hardest thing that I'll ever do in my life. I'm
certainly looking for to do smaller films after that. I absolutely
have no ambitions to attempt to do anyhting bigger : this is
is and that's fine. You know, it has taught me a lot. I think
anyone involved in this will probably thinks and feels they
went through the hardest and the most honest experience of
their filmaking lives.

Apart from the piece of work it is to make that film, LOTR is
also such a piece of literature, that people are so attached
to it. When you go on this kind of project, you must face with
the fans. Did you ask yourself how faithful to remain to this
work, what you could add or change to it ?

PJ... I'm two things in this process of filmaking. One, I'm a
filmaker and obviously has to deal with a screenplay. But
equally importantly I'm a fan of the book. The process of
adaptation of a book is about deleting stuff for simplification.
Lord of the rings needed obviously more simplification than
any other books. I approached it with my responsabilty of
filmaker but when I was doing this process of adaptation as
a fan, I knew what I wanted to see, the characters that I really
want to see on the screen. Believe me or not, I'm looking for
to see the images and characters as much as anybody
else, that even was one of the biggest motivations for me to
do those films. So it's your instinct and your love of the book
that kind of make you this kind of decisions.

As Gollum and Frodo are kind of linked by the ring in a very
complex relationship, Aragorn or Rohan's king are quite torn
between choices here. Is this feeling the heart of this
chapter ?

PJ... I think you're right in the sense that in that particular story
most of characters found themsleves in a place where they
have to make a decision, a place where to decide what they
gonna do, what the responsablity is. The main point is
Frodo. The part of Gollum is really important in Frodo's
story, because he was the previous owner of the ring for the
five hundred years before it came to the Hobbits. Frodo
always has this reminder in the form of Gollum, of what will
happen to him if he keeps the ring for too long, if he fail to
destroy it. And of of course the Smeagol side of Gollum is
the former type of Hobbit he used to be. Frodo's kindness,
compassion and mercy he shows to him allows one of the
ultimate tragedy of this story : that Smeagol is not strong
enough to prevail.

Humor kind of lighthly appears in this chapter..

PJ...As we discussed earlier, this film is a bit more intense than
the first one. I think it's important that humor balances the
film as the intensity grows.

In the past years, some work of literature were known as
unadaptable on screen. Now with the help of new technologies, we are
more and more able to show them on screen.

Richard Taylor (SFX supervisor)... Technology obviously plays
a huge part, but it's one thing to have technology it's another
to get the vision and how to drive this technology. I do
believe the written word is always bigger in an human mind
than on screen. The film image has often being controlled
by budgetry and technology but those days will be kind of
past with characters like Gollum. Ultimately it's the
heartware not the hardware that put him on the screen, that
effectly you got a character and a soul. I suggest we as
viewers very quickly stop look at it as a technological
advance and just appreciate as a character alongside
actors

Elijah, we heard a lot how this is a top on filmaking, that
there won't be something bigger. How does a rising star
like you are self consider the following of a career ? We've
seen in the past some actors starring in this kind of trilogy,
that couldn't make it up after. Are you scared about that ?

Elijah Wood... No, I'm not. I have done some work before
this, some people know me from this previous work, I'm
lucky enough for that. I know anyone who worked on LOTR
trilogy will never work again on something bigger. But that's
not intentional for an actor. It's really about the individual
character you play, some roles are just more challenging
than others.

There has been rumors about returning to some smaller
scale Zombie film after this trilogy. Is it true ?

P.J... The answer is yes. I'm a big fan of zombie movies but
nobody's making it anymore, that's irritating. I'm sure one
day I will do one again.






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    Readers Talkback

  • Dec 11, 2002 11:36:21 AM CST

    I was wondering..

    by jacksonsbane

    could we turn this into another Star Wars Vs Lord of the Rings talkback? That would be like soooo much fun.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 11:37:17 AM CST

    Go PJ!

    by thin red

    I'd love to see PJ tackle a smaller scale zombine movie! 28 days was good, but too small to sustain any lengthy suspense. the tension was all too sporadic. a siumilar style, but with lengthier action set pieces may well do the trick for me!

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  • Dec 11, 2002 11:45:57 AM CST

    LOTR needs nudity

    by tko

    Liv Tyler nude scene. Anyone?

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  • Dec 11, 2002 11:48:19 AM CST

    Somebody needs to take better notes

    by st.buggering

    Or learn to speak better english. I've seen interviews with these people, as we all have, and they do not murder english this way. If you guys are going to post an interview, could some effort go into getting the quotes right, and polishing it a little?

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  • Dec 11, 2002 12:13:36 PM CST

    Heavenly Creatures

    by glass

    I tried to watch Heavenly Creatures again the other day, and I couldn't get through it. I think it stinks, actually. Well, I'll take that back. It's not the worst movie of all time, but it's just a little overdone and Kate Winslet, a fine piece of ass if I do say so myself, overacts to an extraordinary degree.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 12:24:31 PM CST

    iTylerDurden

    by brianboru

    "dwindling career"You see the future,amazing!What are tonights lotto numbers?

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  • Dec 11, 2002 12:40:29 PM CST

    Mr.Jackson

    by nice marmot

    Every film this guy does from now on will be good. I want to see him put out at least 2 totally original flicks and then remake IT'S ALIVE!!! I need more killer babies than I do zombies. And who cares if he does the Hobbit. I wouldn't have any worries it if were in his hands.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 12:48:07 PM CST

    Jackson's "The Hobbit"

    by regenhund

    I would much rather see PJ come back and do the Hobbit in a few years (give things a chance to settle a bit) than to have New Line - who will obviously be chomping at the bit for it considering the cash LOTR's raking in- give it to some no talent hack to murder. Someone needs to ask the question correctly: "PJ, would you accept an offer to film the Hobbit if New Line made clear their intentions to create it with or without you?"

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  • Dec 11, 2002 1:55:35 PM CST

    OH SWEET JESUS! I know that this is off-topic, but I just found

    by neofromthematrix

    I shit you not! Brett Ratner told someone that his friend Charlie would be great for the part! Noooooooooooooooo!!!!

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  • Dec 11, 2002 2:05:09 PM CST

    TKO

    by gypsytrobot

    If it makes you feel any better, she wasn't wearing any underwear in some of her scenes (supposedly).

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  • Dec 11, 2002 2:06:03 PM CST

    No Love For Splatstick?

    by justinsane

    Wow, I'm confused. I've been a huge fan of PJ since I first laid my peepers on Dead Alive/Braindead almost a decade ago, searching for Feebles and Bad Taste as if they were the Holy Grail. I remember rushing to the theater opening days of both Heavenly Creatures and The Frighteners ready for a religious experience... yet it seems some Rings fans have no love for PJ's other flicks nor Splatstick in general.

    Zombie movies, King Kong, Bad Taste 2... bring it on, PJ. I'll be at the theater with bells on even if you do a touching romantic comedy with Sandra Bullock and whatever flavor-of-the-month leading man has the biggest chin cleft.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 2:31:58 PM CST

    What LOTR really is about.

    by englishvoodoo

    It is a story of a hobbit

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  • Dec 11, 2002 2:41:15 PM CST

    I loved DeadAlive and yet...

    by gypsytrobot

    Don't get me wrong, a little viscera hangin' out, a bloody neckhole or two, these are fine in the middle of a combat scene. I'm fine with the splat. I do object to the "stick" part of the splatstick equation. Why? LoTR is a pretty serious affair. "I kick ass for the lord" is one of my favorite lines but it has no place in LoTR. Nor do dwarf tossing jokes. Yeah I'm a wet blanket, I'd rather see Sam hurl an apple at somebody's head and have that be the comic relief for the entire trilogy. If I want laughs I'll watch a Joss Whedon show ("I'll be in my bunk.") In short: splattery goodness good, campy silliness not so good for LotR. I know this is unpopular, just my opinion. Maybe I should change my userID to Eeyore since I'm such a damned downer.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 2:56:14 PM CST

    englishvoodoo

    by brianboru

    Thank you for your insight.Did your medication run out?

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  • Dec 11, 2002 3:15:39 PM CST

    PJ's Low Budget Flicks

    by uncle_les

    You could do a sequel to Bad Taste (Derek massacring the Planet of the Bastards) or Braindead (the zombie baby spawning some more... well, bastards). But I'd rather have Pete come up with something completely new. He and his wife are two very creative people and I'm sure they can come up with some new and original splatstick fun for all (okay, not for all, but you catch my drift). If he comes up with great ideas for sequels to said films, great, but he shouldn't do it because the splattergeeks - god, who in his right mind would call himself a splattergeek? - pressure him. And what's the deal with King Kong? Any news on that? For anyone who's read the first draft: Ron Livingston as Jack, Kate Winslet as Ann, PJ himself as Denham and Steve Buscemi as Peek. Peace Out. (Natalie Portman remains the bomb.)

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  • Dec 11, 2002 3:21:11 PM CST

    Yes...

    by avon

    I've said it once and I'll say it again, Peter must do a sequel to genius zombie movie Brain Dead when he's over with TLOTR. My particular favorite scene is when the guy mowes down all the zombies into a pool of blood in an act of slaughter and debauchery. Oh yes, this film is the true genius of Peter Jackson. Mark my words. Another favorite scene is where a zombie puts his fist through the mouth of a screaming woman from behind. Yee ha.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 3:24:05 PM CST

    englishvoodo Part II

    by snaga-ape

    What chick with the food are you talking about? "You BEST not be tawkin 'bout mah Rosie Cotton! Ain' no mofo tawk 'bout dat chick roun' me! Got dayam byuh!" Oh, didn't Snaga-ape mention it? Part of Gaffer Gamgee being re-written as Uncle Remus Boffins and will be played by Sam Jackson. Scouring of the Shire is now included as 'Da Razin' uv Da Hood!' Hah and ha but Peter Jackson finally wise up to all this "racism" stuff! I hope all PC police are happy now.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 3:38:42 PM CST

    bath song

    by tko

    Woohoo, she didn't wear underwear? I'll wash Liv anyday, especially her dirty parts...I'll rub them squeaky clean...now excuse me while I go find me a copy of Stealing Beauty (thanks FatboyDJ)

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  • Dec 11, 2002 3:52:19 PM CST

    "Begun, this flame war has..."

    by cash bailey

    Fuck Luca$ and his flat, plastic, half-assed Happy Meal commercials. Peter Jackson owns his doughy ass.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 3:56:58 PM CST

    Elanor

    by glass

    I own Meet the Feebles, and let me tell you, it is one effed up film. I love it. Did you try Kim's? As for Heavenly Creatures: As I said - blah.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 4:21:33 PM CST

    MorGoth

    by glass

    Absolutely, in no way do I equate my lukewarm reaction to Heavenly Creatures with the masterpiece that is LOTR. And one more thing: I have to say the I simply do not believe the LOTR haters. I really don't. I think they are just bored pathetic losers who are looking for some bait for the other bored pathetic losers on this site, so they use LOTR because they know there are so many empassioned people who will grab the bait full force. They like the movie as much as the rest of us, the hypocrites.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 5:22:07 PM CST

    What was wrong with The Frighteners?

    by kaitain

    I watched that movie five years ago having heard nothing about it and thought it was one of the most inventive, fun films I'd seen in ages.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 5:27:24 PM CST

    Loved Heavenly Creatures,

    by gypsytrobot

    loved Braindead, disliked Frighteners (except for the ghost effects), thought Bad Taste was kinda stupid. Looking forward to seeing the Feebles movie.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 5:31:00 PM CST

    MEET THE FEEBLES

    by nordling

    You see this movie, and you shake your head, thinking, "How in the hell is it possible this guy directed LORD OF THE RINGS?" It's just one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Highly, highly recommended.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 6:46:20 PM CST

    NEWS FLASH! The car is still there!

    by bg

    Yes it's true! Put in the second appendices disc from your extended version DVD and go to the bit where Howard Shore describes the creation of the Fellowship theme and you will see the scene with Sam, Frodo and the scarecrow, complete WITH CAR!!! So Mr PJ, you thought you could deceive the fans by digitally removing the infamous car and just pretending it never existed in the first place. Well it was a cunning plan, but it contained one tiny flaw, ME!!! The most anally retentive fan in history! BWAHAHAAA!!

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  • Dec 11, 2002 9:06:56 PM CST

    Peter Jackson could do...

    by brujoazul

    the resident evil movies with help of anderson or not, that would be great, although the problem is that those movies wouldn't be low budget ones so maybe not. Peter could give the resident evil world the justice and heart it deserves.

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  • Dec 11, 2002 10:03:57 PM CST

    Re: could we turn this into another Star Wars Vs Lord of the Rin

    by iamlegolas

    As Homer J Simpson would say : "DON'T MIND IF I DO!" *** Film Threat's TTT Review : "Completely immersing as this film is, I still had a few reality check moments throughout the screening. One of these moments had me wonder if George Lucas is feeling like an asshole or not. He

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  • Dec 11, 2002 11:16:43 PM CST

    Neofromthematrix: sans blague?????

    by jackburtonlives

    Charlie Sheen as Lex Luthor??? you have a very subversive sense of humour. it would be like casting Jerry Seinfeld as Superman. though it would be a guaranteed laugh to see Sheen in a skinhead wig.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 2:18:49 AM CST

    Grammar

    by ellitterate

    The grammar in the LOTR spoils was bad much. Thinking me is that people who in eglish write for audience english in should really have to learn to write in a style that be good. Otherwise, it takes from the interview, makes hard it to understand. Think that is what I.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 3:44:00 AM CST

    This is the best talkback EVER!

    by god of forkery

    Good, healthy discussion about PJ and his body of work . . .with nary a hater in sight! I hope it never ends. And to the guy who is writing "The Sci-Marillion" . . .genius. You have to get Blind Guardian to do the soundtrack! BRING ON NEXT WEDNESDAY!

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  • Dec 12, 2002 4:05:58 AM CST

    Hey, Ellitterate...

    by greenleaf

    Thinks the guy, he was French. So PJ speak the English, and then this is probablamently fake interview, because it not have the grammar error if it was PJ that was saying. It was perhaps quite make up by the guy that was French? Who is caring. Cheers. I loves you all.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 5:41:14 AM CST

    Directors

    by vorgon

    Just a question I was thinking about, If PJ didn't direct these brilliant films, who would be your second choice?
    I couldn't really think of anyone in particular but I thought maybe spielberg if he was passionate about the subject matter, any thoughts!
    Cheers Vorgon

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  • Dec 12, 2002 6:49:51 AM CST

    Peter Jackson is what George Lucas USED to be

    by spike fan

    a brilliant story teller who could enthral millions. Hopefully he does not go the way of Lucas in surrounding himself with YES MEN and being a slave to CGI.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 7:18:45 AM CST

    Bla bla bla

    by flyboy21

    Bla bla bla Jackson bla Tolkien bla bla bla Lucas.

    Bla bla

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  • Dec 12, 2002 7:36:05 AM CST

    no subject

    by flyboy21

    trying to type...

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  • Dec 12, 2002 8:33:13 AM CST

    relationships

    by hildebrand

    An issue of some importance appears periodically on these talkbacks, one that is always dealt with poorly, and one that is quite important. Now, I understand that those who post in this vein may simply be trolls, trying to bait the rest of the list into a pissing contest. Nevertheless, it is an issue that is really beginning to bother me. The issue, friendship. Now, the issue in the posts is always the immature statement that Frodo and Sam are gay. Thus it gives the troller the avenue to spew some feeble invective about homosexuality and the LOTR movies. Its trolling, I understand that, but I think the larger issue is one worth addressing, if for no other reason then to point out what these folks may be missing. My greatest concern is that in their frenzy to paint the relationship as a homosexual one (which may speak more to what they are in the process of repressing then anything else. Not that they may be homosexual, but that certain impulses may have scared them quite dramatically, it happens to everyone as they make their way through adolescence (which has got be the the average age of these posters)) they miss the more important relationship involved. In fact, they may be missing out on that kind of relationship altogether, the kind of friendship that is as strong of a bond as any in someone's life. That friendship may be with a spouse, or with a very dear friend of the same gender. These are vital relationships, because they speak to the very best of what we can be as human beings: loving, trusting, courageous, noble, willing to go to any length for the sake of the one that we call friend. It is the person that we can share our deepest fears and greatest joys, who will not mind the days when we are simply off the rails, someone in fact who will take the time and effort to try to see what can be done to help. There is a depth to the kind of friendship that is revealed in the book and is being revealed in the movie, that to simply use it as a trolling device reveals a dramatic lack of maturity on the part of the posters, and diminishes the reality that is friendship. It may seem trite, but rest assured, it is not. One true friend in one's life is a the greatest gift we can be granted in this life, and they are to be cherished above most else. Thus, it bothers me when folks try to score cheap points at the expense of one facet of the story that we should all be celebrating. So to those of you who cannot progress beyond mere physicality in a friendship, I implore you to be quiet until you have matured a great deal, you are offensive in more ways than you can know, and you reveal your immaturity in more ways than even you realize. Someday you will have such a friend, and then you will be embarrased for ever trying to mock something you clearly did not understand.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 8:38:30 AM CST

    elanor

    by glass

    Yup, it's in New York. It's in the West Village, on Thompson, I think, but I may be wrong about that. There are actually two, so I'm not sure which would be your best bet.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 10:19:23 AM CST

    A mixed review of TTT

    by mani

    Here is a mixed review from Teletext - -----The Lord Of The Rings returns, bigger, better, darker and sillier than ever.

    They should have called it The Two Gollums. There is a lot to admire in this, the second instalment of Peter Jackson

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  • Dec 12, 2002 10:55:32 AM CST

    another poor review

    by raker

    at rottentomatoes. I think though that both of these reviews are just to get hits on their respective web pages.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 10:56:35 AM CST

    Slate article

    by hildebrand

    There is a nice little article at Slate.com regarding our good Mr. Jackson. Speaks to his splatter past, and even mentions the online petition to get him to direct the third Star Wars prequel.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 1:25:52 PM CST

    Funny, the "mixed review" at teletext still gave the movie 5 sta

    by minderbinder

    Guess the complaints were pretty minor, or the guy was having a bit of a goof.

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  • Dec 12, 2002 3:33:00 PM CST

    No one else could have directed this movie.

    by daughter of time

    End of story. Because no other director would have assembled this impossible blend of people so devoted to it - and divorced from the Hollywood factory - that they would have spent years of their lives not to mention an imcomparable amount of love making every detail as perfect as humanly possible. And besides, Peter Jackson is a genius. And I love it more than any movie I have ever seen in a lifetime of HIGHLY critical movie-going. ***And MorGy, I am so with you on "Excalibur." Ick. Those studio lights blazing off the polished tin armour....

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  • Dec 14, 2002 12:29:18 PM CST

    INGOLD!... DUH!

    by skyway moaters

    ...the pass is yours brother, and the drinks are on me!

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  • Dec 14, 2002 9:22:37 PM CST

    The car isnt there, dumb ass!

    by bigem

    If you look carefully, Mr Myopia, you'll see it isnt a car in the distance but smoke from a chimney.

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