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New Line to develop SHAZAM and RONIN into Feature Films!
Hey folks, Harry here... The concept that New Line has wrestled SHAZAM... freakin' Captain Marvel away from Warner Brothers is a fact that should be celebrated atop the highest mountain. OK... Now what to do with it. Give it to Tim McCanlies - Let him cast Haley Joel Osment, who he's working on SECOND HAND LIONS right now with - to make a period SHAZAM movie set during WWII. Structure 3 Captain Marvel stories all at once... Shoot just the Billy Batson parts of the stories first so that Billy stays the exact same age throughout the trilogy. In the final film introduce MARY MARVEL and CAPTAIN MARVEL JR. Introduce Mr Tawny in the second one. Villain in the first film Sylvania, second film Mr Mind in the third - the whole Marvel Family takes on WW2. Just as Peter Jackson hired Alan Lee and John Howe because they are the two most important artists to translate Tolkien to screen, so must you pay whatever it takes to get ALEX ROSS & JERRY ORDWAY to help translate the good Captain to screen. I know Tim McCanlies... He's a Captain Marvel nutjob, and a great filmmaker to boot - and you currently are making a movie with him... This would just be balls deep great. Oh and Frank Miller's RONIN would be nifty, but not nearly as nifty as a Captain Marvel movie... Hire Christopher Lee to play SHAZAM. Sorry... it just had to be said, hire Richard Taylor to design his cave. ACK! Must stop... I'm such a geek...
Hi anybody
I thought you might be intrested in this i saw it at
variety...
New Line Cinema is teaming with DC Comics to create a
feature based on the classic comicbook "Shazam!"
New Line is in final negotiations with DC to acquire
feature rights on the 60-year-old title, in which
mild-mannered Billy Batson discovers that he can call
on the powers of an ancient Egyptian wizard, Shazam,
and thereafter undertakes heroic exploits.
The "Shazam!" name is an acronym for six gods and
heroes of the ancient world: the wisdom of Solomon,
strength of Hercules, stamina of Atlas, power of Zeus,
courage of Achilles and speed of Mercury.
Comics industry vet and "Batman" franchise exec
producer Michael Uslan will serve as executive
producer on the project.
"We're pleased to be developing one of the gems of our
library with one of our sister companies," said DC
publisher Paul Levitz. DC and New Line are both owned
by AOL Time Warner.
New Line VPs Christopher Godsick and Mark Kaufman are
developing the property for the studio.
Also in development at New Line is the DC property
"Ronin," created by Frank Miller.
What gets me is frank miller's ronin.It's about time
that Warners/DC got there act together and show the
public that they have much more than supes and bats.
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Hey Spiderman, thanks a lot! Now every superhero from Booster Gold to Demolition Man will get his own movie.
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...how come the gods and heroes are greek whose powers Billy Batson calls upon are Greek?
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About time! If done right, the movie could be AMAZING. Imagine Pearl Harbor without stupid ass dialogue or michael bay..then add superheroes...and the ultimate kids fantasy...to transform into an adult that can handle anything....PLEASE dont screw this up. I'm more excited about this than the next spider-man.
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Patrick Warburton would make a perfect Captain Marvel. Remember in the old Fawcett comics how CM squinted his eyes a little bit? Puddy all the way! Seriously, SHAZAM! presents a great opportunity to provide a good comic book movie with a bit of humour. I mean, come on, how can you play The Marvel Family or Mr. Tawny seriously? Leave the angst to Spidey and X-Men, bring on a little bit of camp for this! Two phrases the script should be loaded with: "Big Red Cheese!" and "Golly!"
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Put Captain Marvel in the self-deluded era of the Fifties and have some beatnik baddies and corrupt teamsters under the employ of Dr. Sivana. This is the only period where Billy Batson's "golly-gee" innocence would be understood and accepted.
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- cause when I think courage, I think Achilles (?). Also nice how Egyptian wizards always give props to non-Egyptian gods that were invented several millenia after the end of the Egyptian empire. And if you accuse me of nitpicking that little detail then I accuse you of performing a home lobotomy. But I'm sure someone already pointed that out - I haven't read the talkbacks yet.
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Dec 05, 2002 11:49:42 AM CST
sorry, just can't find it in me to get excited about this...
by tv casualty
This is the guy in red tights with teh lightning bolt on his chest, right? Nope, uh uh, doesn't get me going. Gimme the Punisher, gimme a decent Captain America, the Avengers, hell, even the West Coast Avengers, I'll be more excited than this. And Weedy, that's not nitpicky at all, it's common sense.
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Yeah guy I gotta agree with that
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I can't believe people are only talking about the idea of doing a Shazam movie when they announce they are doing Ronin. Sure Capt. Marvel might be fun, but Ronin could be a friggin classic. For those that might not know Ronin is the story of a samuari and a demon in a blade runner style future, who may or may not be a samuari and a demon. And it would probably make a much better film than Capt. Marvel. Also they might want to hurry, as marvel just announced a Prime movie, and primes concept is the same as Captain Marvel, except done in the 90's.
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Who will play Bungalow Bill?
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I'm inclined to believe a Shazam movie (and, indeed, most superhero movies besides a potential Dark Knight Returns flick) should be apolitical, rather than an excercise in right-wing anti-bohemian and union-bashing propaganda. Just a thoght.
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I'm inclined to believe a Shazam movie (and, indeed, most superhero movies besides a potential Dark Knight Returns flick) should be apolitical, rather than an excercise in right-wing anti-bohemian and union-bashing propaganda. Just a thoght.
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Does Captain Marvel really need the Batman & Robin Treatment? Hell, any superhero movie for that matter.
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I'm fairly inebriated, so I refuse to be held responsible for my spelling mistakes. Sorry about the double post also, my internet connection was being intentionally antagonistic.
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He's gotta be pushin' 15 by now! No, I'm thinking we need a Billy Batson who LOOKS like a kid but will never age. That's right, I'm thinking Emmanuel Lewis. And Christopher Lee as Shazam? Naw, he's already played a wizard. Let's get another classic actor who needs a popularity revival in his golden years. Let's get Don Knotts as Shazam! Now some of you might be saying that Tawny should be an entirely cgi creation - but as we all know, all cgi looks terrible, from Terminator 2 to Forrest Gump to Attack of the Clones. All horrid. No, the only way to go with this character is an actual Bengal tiger head surgically grafted onto a human body. Realism, that's what I'm talking about! We need Billy-Bob Thornton as Hillbilly Marvel! Peter O'Toole as Uncle Whathisface! Finally, for the role of Dr. Sylvania (or whatever the hell his name is) I've got two words. Tom Cruise. Thank you! sk
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Someone questioned why an Egyptian wizard would give Billy powers associated with Greek mythical figures. Ancient Egypt has seen many culture changes throughout its vast history. The ancient capital Alexandria was named after Alexander the Great(a Macedonian influenced by Greek culture). Cleopatra was not a descendant of true Egyptians. She was actually of the Ptolemic[sp]family which hale from Greece.
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if your post was a joke, cncoyle, then yes I am a humourless bastard. But I'm also drunk, so I think that excuses me.
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Stop posting. You're drunk. We get it. It's hilarious. Now stop.
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I haven't read the other talkbacks yet, and I'm sure there are lots of opinions on par with mine, and maybe even people legitimately interested in this, but is this really deserving of a top left story? I mean, I've heard the New Line whoring allegations and all, but they all just seemed a bit coincidental. This is a bit much. Shazam? Top left? Seriously? I don't know, man. I just don't know.
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Technically WB does have this property, but....I know it's got Harry all giddy, so I won't take that away from him.
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Lets run through the character & plot device checklist shall we? Both stories are about an ancient evil demon in feudal japan, that is battling a hardened samurai warrior with a magic sword. Both stories shift to a future that is very Blade Runner-esque in nature. In this future the samurai must acclimate himself to the new time and destroy the evil demon. It will be interesting to see the fanboy originality flame war start, each side claiming his was the original and the other was a cheap rip-off. Personally I think a Ronin movie would be pretty cool, but that is just my opinion. I'd also like to see Samurai Jack get a big-screen treatment, which is also in the works if I am not mistaken. *** Shazam is - sorry to say - out of date. The best portrayal of Shazam I have seen in the modern era had to be in the "Kingdom Come" storyline. The "golly gee" mentality - even when it was present in the 1950's was a lie. People are not more cynical in the modern era (we are cynical, but that is not the point), its just that people are more honest with themselves and their depiction of reality. Shazam, like Spiderman, is the ultimate childhood wish fantasy. With a magic word you are instantly turned into this near god-like figure, granting you speed, strength, courage and wisdom, the ability to fly, and cleft chin. Yeesh. The concept bears a striking resemblance to Captain America, another teenage wish-fulfilment fantasy, mixed in with jingoistic great depression era propaganda: 98 pound weakling, son of an alcoholic, marked 4F and unable to serve, is recruited to be part of a super soldier program, instantly transforming him into a Body-builder/olympic class athlete, whom - it seems - is almost immortal (although with Marvel comics, you can never tell).
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Dec 05, 2002 12:50:04 PM CST
Just as long as Ronin has Jean Reno and european car chases...
by minderbinder
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No doubt perfect casting....
Thank you.
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After re-reading my post, I noticed that I never said that I saw these movies. Thank you for stating the obvious, that is, nobody is forcing me, or anyone else, to see these movies. I am just tired of seeing Hollywood run with a trend, bleed every last dollar from it, dump it on the street corner and leave it to die. Sure, there have been other superhero movies (Superman, Bataman) but now there is a rash of them on the horizon thanks in large part to the success of Spirderman. Hulk, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, etc. All I'm saying is, God forbid we get some originality out there. This narrow-minded, copycat mentality makes me want to puke. I'm sure you can see my point on some level, unless you're too busy thinking of a witty retort... Peace out.
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Dec 05, 2002 1:25:59 PM CST
Let me be the second to say "Patrick Warburton as Captain Marvel
by neofromthematrix
Wanna hear something something pathetic? Until recently, I thought that Captain Marvel's name was Shazam. How about Patrick Warburton as Superman? Or how about a big-screen adaptation of the Tick? - There is no spoon.
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Sorry...but that sounds fantastic. We need something to make up for all those years of having to listen to Gomer Pyle saying, "Sha-Zamm!" like a retarded inbred mountain boy.
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Dec 05, 2002 1:36:26 PM CST
Maybe now someone will pay off Marel for a co-trademark on the C
by bjmc1975
Marvel still owns the trademark on the Captain Marvel name, but I bet they could be bribed. Imagine how much that could cost them in licensing issues - I suspect some deal could be arranged where the two companies share trademark. After all, Billy Batson was around long before Mar-Vell
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Dec 05, 2002 1:39:18 PM CST
Who wants to place some bets that New Line will get these movies
by iamlegolas
Just you wait.
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-Hercules and Mercury are Roman.
-Atlas, Achilles, and Zeus are Greek.
-And Solomon is Hebrew.
But then again it never made sense to me that an egyptain wizard would have a name like Shazam anyway. And if that wasn't weird enough the orignal Wonder Woman comics freely mixed greek and roman mythology too. But we are talking samantics (sic) here anyway. Let's talk perfect cast Billy Batson-Haley Joel Osment, Captain Marvel-Brenden Fraser, Black Adam-The Rock, I'll think of the rest later. And giving his good working relationship with both actors and his thing with stuff mythological (I know I'm gonna get skinned for this) Steven Sommers should direct. Then again most of you thought the Mummy movies were jokes so that could work too. -
It was ok for Wonder Woman to mix Greek and Roman mythology because they're essentially a "shared" mythology, aren't they? All the Gods are roughly the same, just with different names (Mars/Ares, Zeus/Jupiter, Aphrodite/Venus, etc). Of course, why am I defending Wonder Woman since it's one of the dumbest comics of all time. Best comedian line (Steven Wright?) - "Wonder Woman has an invisible jet. How does she find it?" I'm sorry, ten years later, it still slays me.
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Oh well...one can dream.
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Dec 05, 2002 2:26:19 PM CST
Let me add my voice to the chorus of Patrick W as Capt. Marvel s
by the g-man
But isn't producer Michael Uslan the same guy who wanted to make ADAM STRANGE into a kid hero also?
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You can`t improve on perfection!
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I agree with what soemone else said about the best Marvel treatment was the one in KINGDOM COME (if you've never read it, go fucking get it NOW). I'd rather see RONIN since anything by the great Frank Miller is gold. God, would I love to see an animated KINGDOM COME film, written by Paul Dini and directed by Bruce Timm. But that would require WB to have some brains and balls, so much for that. As always, my opinion is the truth.
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Kurt Angle is Captain Marvel! Hate on "acting wrasslers" all you want, but before he shaved his head, Kurt looked near-perfect for the Captain. All he needs is a nice hairpiece and he's already got the physique. I've been saying it for a while now (and actually, people were saying Warburton would be a good C.M. or Superman a year ago, sorry guys above...) KURT ANGLE IS CAPTAIN MARVEL. And that man can act, too, so let's end that knock right there before it starts. SHAZAM, GODDAMN!
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is priceless! He really looks like Captain Marvel, at least the Alx Ross version. This could be the film that manages to do what The Phantom and The Shadow failed...granted, they were set in 20's but the general idea: superhero in recent past. Imagine the production designs of Indiana Jones-films and add one big red caped...Patrick Warburton. Camp? Hell yeah. Might be fun too. And Ronin. Good call on Samurai Jack, Caine. But there's room for all kinds of time travellin' samurai. Bring it on! Perfect material for screenplay too - three acts all laid out for the lucky bastard who gets to adapt.
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Dec 05, 2002 3:02:12 PM CST
My casting picks for a Shazam! movie.....opinions requested
by axelfoley
Ryan Merriman as Billy Batson
An unknown or Paul Gross as
Captain Marvel.
The kid from the Santa Clause movies as Capt. Marvel Jr.
Liev Scrieber as Black Adam
Brian Dennehy as Uncle Marvel
Jessica Biel as Mary Marvel (yes, you heard me)
The only villains should be Dr. Silvania and Black Adam. No Mr. Mind. A CGI caterpillar-looking worm thing is lame personified. This movie can work. I'd be lying if I said i thought it actually will. -
Dec 05, 2002 3:05:16 PM CST
For the record, Captain Marvel always had that squinted eye appe
by axelfoley
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Captain Marvel is terribly out of place in the modern world. So, rather than trying to adapt Captain marvel to the times, go to the book that already did it: Alan Moore's masterpiece "Miracleman" ["Marvelman"]. In the mid-80's (my Golden Age of comics), Moore took an English Captain Marvel rip-off and used him to completely deconstruct the idea of superheroes in the real world. While not as tight or complex as "Watchmen" (only because "Watchmen" dealt with so many main characters and was not as open-ended as "Miracleman"), "Miracleman" is absolutely riveting and devastating. And that's just Alan Moore's 16-issue run! When Neil Gaiman came on, he had huge plans for telling the story of a superhero's place in the world of humans. Too bad the company went under before he could finish. Such is life. I say, rather than trying to update "Captain Marvel", New Line uses some of that "Lord of the Rings" money to wrestle the rights to "Miracleman" from the evil Todd McFarlane (who bought the rights for about $10,000 and is using the characters in a "Spawn" spin-off book...ugh). Of course, this is all moot. Movie studios don't spend large amounts of money on something as daring as this, and, judging from the way audiences stayed away from "Solaris" like it had some kind of smart-people plague, the studios can't really be blamed.
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I would not worry too much about McFarlane using Miracleman in one of his books - no self respecting artist or writer would do that book for him. McFarlane would do well to bury the hatched with Gaiman, and then get Gaiman to package a Miracleman book to be published under the Image imprint.
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Ronin was visionary, with character, plot, scale, breadth of scope over space and time and was revelutionary for its time. Shazam was golden age drivel biff bam boom bullshit. The incredible genius Alan Moore with Miracleman took the Shazam story, fucked it like a sunset strip whore and turned it into a fucking groundbreaking work of art. Fuck Shazam and his tired ass and red and gold tights, audiences are too sophisticated for that str8 up hero vs. evil b.s. give us layers!! Think Miracleman or Swamp Thing or The Watchmen and let the silly old baby boomer bullshit die. I mean what's next Capt. America and Bucky fighting nazis? Drums, drums in ther deep, the law of dimished returns is occurring before our very eyes on comic book movies. Brittany Spears as Dazzler!!! You heard it here first,...sheesh!
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I think that I see what's happening. Essentially, you're bitching about the fact that I am bitching about the onslaught of superhero movies which I alluded to in my first post. Rarely do I post on these talkbalks (this little sparing match being the main reason) and I thought that I would drop a thought nugget on this little topic to begin the thread- not just for the sake of bitching. I am not going to protest this movie with giant placards, nor am I cursing the names of those behind it. In half-assed attempt at humor, I merely tried to point out something that I find cumbersome about the biz. And your dry, psuedo-mocking comments non-withstanding, I believe that I, as do many other people, possess original ideas which could benefit the industry as a whole. Perhaps not. Nevertheless, don't clump me in with your over-generalized view of AICN TalkBacker's and other dot-com'ers you seem to dislike so much. People have ideas, thoughts, comments, quips, quotes, complaints and a whole lot more. If you don't like it, I suggest you let your Yahoo! account go the way of the Dodo and spend your time elsewhere. In regards to this topic, this shall be my last post. Take it easy!
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but Blade is a much cooler concept. A black half vampire hunting other vampires with cool weapons... Shazam is a goofy little boy that screams a stupid catch phrase to turn into a second rate Superman
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Dec 05, 2002 4:42:54 PM CST
How did a movie about lameass Captain Marvel get made before...
by chimmythechimp
Green Lantern...if they wanted a movie about some loser who gets a whole lot of power real fast, they should have picked GL..the Ronin movie sounds bad ass by the way
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Tony Shaloub as Dr. Sivana.
Michael Clarke Duncan as Mr. Tawny (with some CGI and/or Rick Baker-type makeup).
Patrick Warburton as Captain Marvel.
Christopher Lee as Shazam.
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I would far prefer an adaptation of Alan Moore's brutal Marvelman(a.k.a. Miracleman) than some campy adaptation of the always-boring Captain Marvel. Oh, and by the way: fuck Alex Ross fans. Fuck them up their stupid asses.
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If New Line got Sandman... dear God oh man...
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"But isn't producer Michael Uslan the same guy who wanted to make ADAM STRANGE into a kid hero also?"
Now there's a blast from the past! I loved ADAM STRANGE even if he wasn't particularly strange and was a third-rate ripoff of Flash Gordon. No way he will ever be featured in a movie. He isn't even second string like Captain Marvel. But, oh man, remember that classic costume of his? And that hot raven-haired girlfriend of his? He flew with jetpacks and never seemed to burn his ass. I think he wore sneakers or white go-go boots with that sissy-boy costume of his. Better let's have Captain Solar, Man of the Atom, made into a movie. The hero who wore basic lab clothes for an issue or two and then started wearing a FLASH/CYCLOPS-like costume, but was always skinny as a rail. Sometimes the costume was skintight, other times it was slightly saggy. The covers were always better than the insides. Charlton was the publisher, I believe. Charlton (for whom Steve Ditko did a lot of work) was in good old Derby, Connecticut, right next door to the town in which I currently reside, Shelton -- home of Wiffle Ball, Better Packages/IMS Hasler, and the U.S. distributor for Swiss Army Knives which stockholder OJ Simpson visited to pick up some cutlery including a large carving knife the day before he killed his ex-wife and her boyfriend. -
his comics are only good for one thing...wiping up Chimmy's spunk after he pets his little red winky while staring at the DVD cover of Tomb Raider
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Ah, right. And that goofy red and gold costume is so fifties it's not even funny. Sure. And that good versus evil bullshit is too unsophisticated for the modern high-calibur minds of todays movie going audiences. Yeah. ***** Okay, let me get this straight. The concepts of idealism and "pure good vs evil" fantasy are too simple for you? Meanwhile, pop music is cranked from every car radio, quality television shows struggle against the ongoing reality TV juggernaut, illiteracy is actually starting to become a significant problem in American cities again, and most films of any intellectual or emotional complexity are given extremely limited release. Where the fuck are all these sophisticates I keep hearing about? Exactly. Shut up.****** These negative comments about Shazam (most of which are coming from people who have a very limied experience of the character), are exactly why every super-hero movie has to go through so much bullshit before it is even considered for production. This bullshit is why every character has to wear black leather (even the ones with fairly reasonable costumes). This bullshit is the reason why everything has to be "edgy", which usually results in movies that are anything but. And this bullshit is why there are so many lesser known characters being used for movies, because, quite frankly, nobody knows what the fuck to do with the big time Supermans and Batmans anymore.***** ANd from now on, every time I see a new talkback about a comic book movie, I'm going to make this suggestion: Hollywood should just give up on comic books and make up their own superheroes even if they're basically rip-offs of existing characters. That way everybody's happy, and I don't have to watch bastardised versions of modern fairy tales.
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Fer IBAC's sake, I can't believe everyone is hollerin' about how the gods selected to be used to build a comic book acronym didn't all ride in the same bus together as kids, but no one has pointed out that it ain't SYLVANIA, it's SIVANA. Captain Marvel's most diabolical enemy was not a TV set. (Although you might disagree if you used to watch the 70's live-action show.) And they should cast Slimy from Sesame Street as Mr. Mind.
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...or rather, to Jackson Bostwick, who played him on the first season of the 70's TV show, right after cutting up my tabloid-sized DC Shazam! comic with the 3-D diorama on the back. I was kinda miffed 'cause I got no response, while my sister wrote to Lynda Carter and got an autographed Wonder Woman 8x10. Later I received my Bionic Woman Fan Club stuff in the mail, put the sticker on my lunchbox and gradually forgot my ire...until this year, when I saw Jackson Bostwick sittin' behind a table at DragonCon with his underage boytoy. I was thrilled until he somewhat snottily told me that an autograph was $10. Ten bucks?! For Jackson Bostwick?!? Come on, dude, I met Mike Nelson and Kevin Murphy the next day and they not only signed my shit for free, but Kevin gave me a package of disgusting candy that he didn't want to take on the plane with him. Now that's a memento. No wonder no one was at your table, Jackson!! Although I gotta say, you've aged pretty darned well for someone who probably hasn't had a decent enough acting job to pay for a pizza since 1975.
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is he gonna be in this new version? They don't wait long to remake'em nowadays, do they?
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I initially got into comics because they were fun and full of colour.
As a child, I loved the whole Capt. Marvel and Marvel Family sagas BECAUSE they were fun and full of colour.
Of course I appreciate how comics have grown darker and more reflective of society's many diverse problems but surely there is still a place for stories where a boy can utter a magic word and become a larger than life, colourfully dressed hero who has a naively simplistic view of good and evil.
Almost every issue, Billy Batson somehow found himself gagged before having his life put in peril. It was simple and formulaic but it was GREAT FUN!
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THE SHADOW and THE PHANTOM were both set in the mid-30s.
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Has either Frank Miller or Alex Ross consulted with directors or aided in any way a single comic book film? I consider them to be gods of the graphic novel and was wondering what they thought of all these movies.
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I had a big hardcover collection of all his Fawcett Press stories from the '50's once. It made for great, fun reading. If they do a CM flick they need to work WITH the cheesyness of it all and just make it fun. Perhaps not a straight-out comedy but tongue-in-cheek! I keep thinking Tim Burton should direct it but maybe I'm just high. Oh, and who else besides me wants to see an all out animated KINGDOM COME?? You couldn't do it live action 'cause it would cost a billion dollars but getting the team what gave us FLCL or BGC 2040 would work. Or better, *Disney* if they decided that they wanted to leave the kiddy animation behind once and for all! The shit would rawk--"Kingdom Come" by Disney! It would be the Mouse House's answer to AKIRA! Toppu o Nerae!
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You make him sound like a tree-hugging rural fucknut, is what you do.
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Patrick Warburton WOULD be a great Captain Marvel...if he was a movie star. Or even a movie actor really. If they can make that Dude open Shazam they're some good.
Cheers,
C.
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But I realise I probably sounded a bit like that "I'm so wasted" guy from the Adam Sandler CD. Apologies.
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Dec 05, 2002 11:16:38 PM CST
I think they should re-make "Electro-Woman and Dyna-Girl" with H
by darth phallus
"Sorry, the hot outfits don't shrink with the rest of ya, brother, er, sister." (all props to Chaffro)
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I remember that I watched the old TV show religiously, but that's just about all I remembered, until I caught an episode on TV Land a couple of months ago. Man, that show was fuckin horrible. It made the 60s Batman show look like Masterpiece Theatre. I mean, a teenage boy tooling around in a motor home with some old dude he wasn't related to? Somebody should've called Child & Family Services. Sheesh.
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If he can whip himself back into shape....
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I'd love to see a Captain Marvel film!
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'Nuff said!
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and that is a battle between Captain Marvel and Bobobo, the Tomorrow Ape, his evil arch nemesis f rom the fifties who was a terrifying monkey in a space helmet. he was removed from the comic due to pressure from HUAC.
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Kurt Angle is Captain Marvel, not Warburton! I have a framed poster of the Big Red Cheese
and quite a few people have mistaken it for Kurt Angle!
In additon get Malcolm from Malcolm in the middle to play Billy and I do not want to hear
any crap about setting it in the 50's.
New Line I hope you can do this and you better do it before that Prime crap!
Anybody who knocks Cap. Marvel without knowing about the character is an asswipe.
Some idiot said CM is a poor relative of Superman that went into obscurity because of a lack
of support, well moron let me set the record straight:
Captain Marvel went out of business because DC sued them when Cap. Marvel started outselling
Superman, DC sued so many times that the publishers of Capt. Marvel got fed up and left the
comics arena entirely!
So Captain Marvel was more popular than Supes till DC went ballistic with their nuisance
suits so that they could get rid of this great character.
Funny enough now that DC itself now produces the same character that they such issues with
in the past.
Long live Captain Marvel!
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Ronin is probably Frank Miller's worst book. We can forgive this, because it was his first (the same reason that we can't forgive him for his most recent work), but it would be a terrible idea to make a movie out of it. Why not Sin City? Gary Oldman as Kevin, Wallace Shawn as Roark, Ron Pearlman (under heavy prothsetic makeup) as Marv. Or they could do The Dark Knight Returns. Paul Newman as Batman, Christopher Walken as the Joker, Ben Affleck as Superman. Just please, for the love of god, don't turn Ronin into a movie.
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Dec 06, 2002 3:32:27 PM CST
Peter Jackson Expresses Interest In Four-Movie RONIN Cycle!
by trav mcgee
Fran Walsh Kicks Him In The Nuts! Jackson Expresses Interest In Several Small-Scale, Low-Budget Features, Falls Over, Passes Out!
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Ronin was genius! Did any of you read the book? Personally I think they should digitally ressurect Toshiro Mifune and super impose him on the modern actor who plays Billy! Shazoom (ox, strength of another) could be good but is more likely to be camp crap, a Miracle man story would be so much cooler.
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You're just plain wrong dude. Ronin ruled. Unquestionably. Sin City's good but I've seen plenty of good ganster movies, albeit without ninjas. Whatever.
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Dec 06, 2002 7:26:32 PM CST
Squasha, chill the fuck out, will you. Sivana, Sylvania, who giv
by axelfoley
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Personally, I think they should be doing a movie of the Marvel Captain Marvel. Specifically in the vein of the latest run.
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Dec 07, 2002 12:09:38 PM CST
Bobclark: Actually, I meant that it was his first original. I'
by fatpaul
My problems with Ronin are these:
1) The writing is rather poor. In particular, the characters vary from silly to nonexistent, and the dialogue lacks any of the (admitedly slim) charm of Miller's later work.
2) Miller's art seems to be in its formative stage in this book. It seems far to "busy" and it's a little hard to look at. On top of that, the character design is so bland that it makes M.D. Geist look groundbreaking.
3) While I can appreciate his (perceived) homage to the greats of early manga, he took from all the wrong elements. The result is actually less engaging than an episode of Samurai Jack.
Anyway, I have to agree about DK2. -
Sean Connery is the only possible actor to play Batman in the Dark Knoght Returns, look at the art, he must have been the model for Miller. Only concern I would have would be for the accent, he would have to learn how to do an American accent which I don't think he has ever tried before. Paul Newman would have been Okay 15 years ago, but he's too old now.
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I give a fuck.
I'm up for reading accurate, well-researched news posts. Of course, why the heck do I read this site? And it's not like he's going to edit the post after it's been made. It'll just stay up there looking idiotic to anyone who actually knows the Captain Marvel mythos. -
Rest assured you say shit to me you'll get it back. Guaranteed. And I'm not talking about one of those Tommy Callahan "I'll take a dump in a box and put the sticker on the box kind of guarantees" either. -
Hey, it worked before. "Kneel before Black Adam!" Does this movie really need to be made? I always thought Shazam!/Capt. Marvel was the superhero equivalent of Li'l Orphan Annie, or Capt. America on milquetoast. I'd go for a Green Lantern movie though. Brock Lesnar with a good makeup job would make a bad ass Mongul.......
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Is that he was the only superhero who never gets laid! ! ! ! !! ! ! In fact it never has came up in the comics even in the modern form. Think about it, he has a sister, and a crippled best friend, but NO girlfriend!!!!!! Now granted it is hard for a 10 year old boy to have a girlfriend. But, even when they briefly aged Billy and Mary to teens they never dated. Of course I always figured Cap Jr. was banging Mary behind Billy's back. Of course it was purely sympathy sex for his crippled leg. Still doesn't change the fact that Billy never got any. Anyhow.......... I always find that funny.
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Hey, put down that chair!
This came to me the other night as I was driving and listening to the Moulin Rouge soundtrack (and I'm straight!)
We need an over-the-top, fun superhero movie. Daredevil, Hulk, and X-Men are fine but they all fall into what Alan Moore has called the "superman as Hamlet" syndrome. It's long been felt, given the fear of superhero fans that their idols aren't taken seriously enough, that big-budget superhero movies need a dark, moody edge or a cynical wink-at-the audience attitude to gain a mainstream audience. Those types of movies have their place, but how about blowin' the roof off the joint with a crazy, colorful, MUSICAL superhero movie filled with wacky characters, fun heroes, and the joy of the fantastic? The Captain Marvel family is currently being prepared by New Line as a movie francise. The world of Binder, Beck, and Raboy is filled with a bald myopic madman (with a beautiful "good" daughter and a son who looks like Danny Kaye), a talking tiger, a mind-altering worm who talks through a radio on a string that is worn on his "neck", bank robbers with alligator heads and a family of superpeople who just love doing their super stuff. To buff off the gleam of this world would be unconscionable. I say give it to Mr. Luhrmann (now turning Gen X and Y into opera(!) buffs with his staging of La Boheme) and let him turn Fawcett City into the combo of The Wizard of Oz, Oliver, and Bollywood that it deserves to be. Can't you see Martin Short, bald and wearing thick glasses, singing about his next can't-fail caper? C'mon, it's a duet with a WORM! That's gotta make you smile.
It makes more sense then a Batman musical, right?
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