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FIREFLY In Drydock!!
Grrr. Argghh.
The Fox network is putting the best new show of the season on hiatus.
“Fastlane” will inherit the “Firefly” timeslot beginning in January, according to many, many Coaxial sources.
And “Firefly” will no longer have a slot. “Hiatus” is coming to River, Simon, Inara and Mal.
Fox’s nights of change:
- TUESDAY
- 8/7C AMERICAN IDOL
- 9/8C 24
- WEDNESDAY
- 8/7C THAT '70S SHOW (new night & time)
- 830/730C AMERICAN IDOL RESULTS SHOW
- 9/8C BERNIE MAC (new time - actually his OLD time)
- 930/830C CEDRIC (new time)
- FRIDAY
- 8/7C FASTLANE (new night & time)
- 9/8C JOHN DOE
And you say, “Well, this is okay. They’re probably going to put ‘Firefly’ in the old ‘girls club’ slot. The old ‘Angel’ daypart. Mondays at 9 p.m.
Be a pity though if Fox stuck some piece-of-shit “Bachelor” knockoff in the Monday 9 p.m. timeslot. Wouldn’t it?
“Fastlane” will inherit the “Firefly” timeslot beginning in January, according to many, many Coaxial sources.
And “Firefly” will no longer have a slot. “Hiatus” is coming to River, Simon, Inara and Mal.
Fox’s nights of change:
- TUESDAY
- 8/7C AMERICAN IDOL
- 9/8C 24
- WEDNESDAY
- 8/7C THAT '70S SHOW (new night & time)
- 830/730C AMERICAN IDOL RESULTS SHOW
- 9/8C BERNIE MAC (new time - actually his OLD time)
- 930/830C CEDRIC (new time)
- FRIDAY
- 8/7C FASTLANE (new night & time)
- 9/8C JOHN DOE
And you say, “Well, this is okay. They’re probably going to put ‘Firefly’ in the old ‘girls club’ slot. The old ‘Angel’ daypart. Mondays at 9 p.m.
Be a pity though if Fox stuck some piece-of-shit “Bachelor” knockoff in the Monday 9 p.m. timeslot. Wouldn’t it?
Fox’s nights of change:
- TUESDAY
- 8/7C AMERICAN IDOL
- 9/8C 24
- WEDNESDAY
- 8/7C THAT '70S SHOW (new night & time)
- 830/730C AMERICAN IDOL RESULTS SHOW
- 9/8C BERNIE MAC (new time - actually his OLD time)
- 930/830C CEDRIC (new time)
- FRIDAY
- 8/7C FASTLANE (new night & time)
- 9/8C JOHN DOE
And you say, “Well, this is okay. They’re probably going to put ‘Firefly’ in the old ‘girls club’ slot. The old ‘Angel’ daypart. Mondays at 9 p.m.
Be a pity though if Fox stuck some piece-of-shit “Bachelor” knockoff in the Monday 9 p.m. timeslot. Wouldn’t it?
Be a pity though if Fox stuck some piece-of-shit “Bachelor” knockoff in the Monday 9 p.m. timeslot. Wouldn’t it?
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I hope this doesn't spell doom for Firefly. Hiatus is never a good thing is it? Damn, another good show gets completely screwed over.
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no pilot, episodes out of order, shitty timeslot, moving timeslot-any other ways Fox can fuck up a great show in the making????
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Folks, I don't know what the deal is, but if I were Joss Whedon, and thank God I'm not, I don't think I could put up with the constant network bullshit he keeps getting. I think it's time he just tells them all to piss off and starts his own network. Hell, it worked for B&B (Star Trek reference, you know).
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Nov 26, 2002 10:06:04 PM CST
So when's Dan Cortez going to take over for the white guy on Fas
by domisinnerchild
That's all I could think watching the premier. Do you really need to knock off EVERYTHING on Miami Vice? When they paid the Phil Collins song I sit up my drink. It's the TV Cop Show equivalent of Leviatian to genetic experiments gone bad movies.
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I almost forgot to mention, Fox was considering a Wednesday night time slot for the show. I wonder if WB's new "Let's kill Angel" scheme had anything to do with the decision to just put the show on hold.
I'm starting to understand why Gene Roddenberry hated network execs. They don't seem to have the first damn clue about selling a sci-fi television show to young adults. -
Sad... sad... sad... I couldn't even sit through a mere ten minutes of boredom inducing John Doe. Firefly, everything that enterprise wants to be is now in Family Guy Hell. They ought to have left Bernie Mac in his time slot, moved Cedric to Friday's and put Firefly up against Enterprise.
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I think Buffy was Thursday, Monday, Tuesday right?
Angel Tuesday, Wednesday, Sunday
Firefly Friday.
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Misery LOVES company...so take that, all y'all Whedon-jocking freaks out there who were dogging Farscape when the cancellation news hit. At least 'Scape lasted 4 seasons.
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I'm not happy with it, but its not cancelled. Now your little puppet show? Thats cancelled.
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Hell, they'll show anything. As far as Cable goes, Supermarket Sweep has Farscape beat for time on the air. I think Herc couldn't get past the puppets.
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Ever seen a fox fuck a firefly? Apart from the glowy bits, it ain't purdy. This mid-season shuffle on top of the continuity shuffle has me thinking that TV execs just must really hate Joss Whedon. Or, they WOULD hate him if they weren't too busy rolling naked in the money the American public hands over to them along with their brains. The Bachelor. Wrestling. Survivor. Big Brother. Blind Date. Enterprise. Charmed. Friends. Dawson's Creek. John Edwards. I tell you, if they cancel Firefly, and if this "time-slot of death" for Angel kills it, and if the Prinzess declines another season of Buffy, not only will Whedon's career be at a standstill, but 2003 will be the last year for quality genre television. Hey execs! Stop pandering to the lowest common denominator! Keep smartly written shows on the air, or the national IQ will drop so fast, we'll vote Bush back for five more terms!
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Nov 26, 2002 11:38:10 PM CST
smart well written show replaced by piece of shit starring bill
by waynesworld
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Firefly is just not that good a show. It will go away. Joss will have to try again with something else. He ain't Midas. Not everything he touches turns to Gold. Birds of Prey - also not good. Face it guys, just cuz it's sci-fi fantasy doesnt mean you/we have to support it. have the courage to demand GOOD sci-fi fantasy. Even from Joss.
In the meantime, when Garbage like Fastlane is on - Read a book, rent a DVD, Join Tae Kwan Do or take piano lessons. -this, it appears, is a very bad tube year. Fortunately, there is life away from the tube. -
Fox should had the guts to cancel this silly Firefly show. Which they will on spring 2003. Dark Angel Forever!
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Firefly needs time to sort of grow on people. And I think its is just starting too. Postitive comments out numbering negitive. Well written epesodes out numbering bad. I think its just starting to find its groove, and this is probably the very worst time to pull it. Its a show that dares to be origonal. Thank gumdrops theres a show that dares to be origonal out there. . .
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But then he ended with "Dark Angel Forever." Don't really need to comment on that one, huh?
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Its too smart, too well written. "America won't get it, we need another reality show, or a sit com starring a country music star. Maybe a show with puppets..."
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Are you freakin kidding me? I thought the network that gave life to The Simpsons, X-Files, 24, and King O' The Hill would have some balls and give a potentially great, unique show a shot. But noooooooo, they have to air baseball, 30 Seconds to Obscurity, and the extremely long playing (and already soooo 5 minutes ago) music video Fastlane. Why did you have to jerk us off Fox? You never liked the show, why didn't you sell it to someone who cared. I hope that your LCD American Idol Two does a giant Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and sends Fox back to the gutter from whence it crawled. I might as well watch the gorram PAX channel. A plague, a plague on the freaking C.O.P.S. network.
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Nov 27, 2002 2:37:28 AM CST
From The Press Release: Fox Entertainment President Gail Berman
by the outlander
This is a quote, from the press release:
"Fox Entertainment President Gail Berman stressed that "Firefly" has not been canceled. New episodes will continue to air throughout December and the network is considering a new time slot for the series."
If they were going to cancel the series they would just do it and not let it drag on like they are.
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Nov 27, 2002 2:46:55 AM CST
Quote from Joss Wedon: Now Fox is getting a good response to the
by the outlander
Check out the the whole artical here
scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2002-11/21/13.00.tv
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Hiatus really hurts struggling new shows. What audience it had may not be reading this and think it's cancelled because it's not on Friday at 8pm anymore. Remember, America is stupid and preferes reality shows and things with puppets. Most of us can't follow a simple schedule change.
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this sucks! i saw it coming, but this sucks! could be the final nail in fireflys coffin. what a bunch of crap!
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No need to argue over which show is/was best. Personally, I like/liked all of them. Each brought something good and different to the table.
I think what's most vexing is that Fox has had a number of good-to-great shows slip through its fingers. "Brisco County" was good, "Dark Angel" was okay, could have been *much* better, and 'nuff said about "Family Guy" and "The Tick." They just rocked. Fox needs to pull its head out of its posterior and just let shows run for a while. As a lot of folks have mentioned, not even "X-Files" was a hit right out of the gate. I suppose Fox is going to start running "24" out of sequence now... -
Email Fox and request - politely! - that they keep Firefly on the air. The email is askfox@foxinc.com. This will show that Firefly does have viewer support. Rudeness and whining won't help. Force of numbers will.
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This is wonderful...Now Firefly won't be on at the same time as Farscape will be in January, and I'll be able to watch both!!!
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Is it all just a result of our high-internet bandwidth, satellite TV, Bored Now, society that television shows are given zero chance to find their voica and their audience these days? Look at the early days of some of the most successful shows in TV history. (And I said successful, not necessarily good or bad). Seinfeld struggled along for a while before people got it, Star Trek TNG was pretty god-awful 'til about the third season, and Friends wasn't an out of the box hit either until a few hairstyle modifications for it's cast. Or maybe it's because once a show does become a bonafide hit, the cast always has to renegotiate for big bucks, and it's much cheaper for the networks to sell us crappy reality shows with a new bunch of unknown competitors every season (No stars to pay, no writers to pay, bigger profits....mmmmmm...profits).
But still, this whole move seems to reek of Dumb. Is Fox trying to kill all their series? Sure this hurts Firefly, but what about Fastlane? Isn't it's target audience out partying on Friday night? Can a show be a success based on it's potential to look cool playing over the bar at TGIFriday's with the sound muted (well, guess they still save money on writers). -
You are an asshole Deep Blue Sky. Anyway, this sucks. I had finally made the decision to try for this show, and i get this bullshit? Maybe it'll get lucky and end up on Monday night, but that's a tough night, with MNF and all. Which I end up watching ergardles of who's playing. Crap.
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You know, this is likely not such a bad thing. For your consideration: Andy Richter Controls the Universe, one of the funniest and most innovative shows on FOX gets placed on hiatus after tepid ratings on Wednesday nights (or Tuesday...sometime during the week). It gets placed on hiatus, and then, shows up following Simpsons/Malcom on Sunday night at 9:30. Albeit, it does me little good being a Alias fan, but the timeslot is a hell of a sight better. Maybe they'll wisen up and give Firefly a nice and fitting timeslot, not following local news, or When Pangolins Attack!
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but months ago when they anounced the schedule I said I would be stunned if it last until Thanksgiving. They will re-tool at most. I fear Josh is too smart for the big 4.
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...if in fact they give it a new time slot, and that timeslot isn't Wednesday. The Monday 9 PM time slot would be just perfect. But people, let us not complain that they moved this show out of the slot-o-death. This is the slot that killed Brisco, Sliders (twice!), and Strange Luck. (Yes, I know SciFi picked up Sliders, and as far as I'm concerned they delivered the death blow. That, and Sabrina Lloyd leaving for Sports Night.) The last thing Firefly needed was to stay in the Friday 8 PM slot; Fox, in its typical shortsightedness, would have canceled it there. Apparently it's just impossible to get it through some people's heads that no matter how good a show you put in that slot, it will only ever get ratings up to a certain level; they should save the slot-o-death for drivel. I haven't watched Fastlane, but judging by the promos this looks about right.
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Everyone who gives a damn about Firefly should flood Fox and let them know!! Come on people, do it for Joss!!!
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Nov 27, 2002 5:20:06 PM CST
Joss must really piss people off both Fox and WB are killing his
by warlock411
Fox totaly f**ked up Firefly and the WB keeps putting Angel in a bad time slot. ............ Maybe Joss is hard to get along with and the execs just dont like him.
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the networks just can't take it. "there are 3 shows out there that are actually providing "entertainment". we can't have that. good writing, decent acting, melting of genres into eachother, what the fuck is going on? if he keeps this up, people will be expecting quality out of all our shows. so we'll cripple this man that has "integrity of vision" by putting all of his shows in poisoned time slots. then we'll hire the biggest assholes we can to get on websites and trash reviewers for liking something with some substance, such as shows created by this madman, who thinks t.v. can be good. we'll show him". fucking FOX and WB, why can't they just let us enjoy something for once? at least we'll still have the simpsons.
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Nov 27, 2002 6:40:33 PM CST
If Fox was a sports team they would have folded the franchise al
by jimmylegs
I mean c'mon, Fox has really dropped the ball this year. It's almost like they had no stategy whatsoever. First of all Sunday night @ 9:00 is not half-hour sitcom time. No solid lead in to its best drama 24. Totally screwing FIREFLY by running eps out of order and ruining any chance of establishing any kind of coherent storyline. Fox deserves its fifth place placing. (say that five times fast) The sad thing is it's not because of the shows. Strange. Peace.
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You guys should really wait for more information. Fox could be moving the show to a far better timeslot since according to a recent post they are a little sympathetic towards/impressed by the show. Writing or emailing at this point would likely just annoy them.
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Firefly = the best sci-fi on TV. Anyone who doesn't see it, I pity you.
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They are moving Fastlane to keep it alive. They're afraid of having it line up against ANGEL. Now, why they are so wed to FASTLANE, I have no earthly idea.... AD out
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Thank God you're not in charge olf production. "Road Warrior"? The 80s are over, man.
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Maybe if they put some muppets on the show, it would last more than a season. How does that comment feel, funny guy? Wanna make some fun of muppets on the best sci-fi show on TV now? I'll put all the money in my pocket against all the money in your's that Farscape survives for a 5th season and Firefly doesn't see a 2nd. Zubalove out!
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Just when you think it's going to be a good year for scifi -- bam. Everything ruined by standard corporate stupidity. Well, apologies to Firefly fans -- hope for the best -- also, if any of you would watch Farscape when it comes back in January (we're trying to push up the ratings, who knows, might get lucky), would be much indebted.
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I take "on hiatus" to mean "one foot in the grave". With this series looking terminal and "Birds of Prey" also biting the big one...what is there left of the new crop to look forward to. Shit - neither one of these series has even aired here in the UK yet, and they're gone. And I was looking forward to both. Double shit !!
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I haven't seen any of Firefly yet -- I figured that I'd wait until they started airing everything in order (mistake on my part, I'm guessing :) ). But I heard enough about it to know I like the direction it's going. People, save the geek battles for later. Right now, I'm in favor of quality scifi in whatever form it comes in, and right now we've got two brilliant shows that are going to get scrapped due to nothing more than bullshit corporate stupidity. If that's not a call to alliance, I don't know what is.
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Robin: As far as BOP is concerned, you've missed nothing, but a bad case of gonerrhea of the eyes. Don't spare BOP a second thought. New Firefly on the 6th though, join in. ** SpacePhil, if I had cable I'd watch Farscape, if only because you seem like a nice, reasonable person. Too bad the rest of the muppet show fans are such fuck ups.
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All I ever heard were a lists of plot-holes with the psuedo-pilot (the train robbery episode), complaints that it all took place in one solar system, and complaints that there were no aliens. (To them I say: that was only one episode, so what, and get over it.) The most gripping and over-used argument against "Firefly" has been "It SUCKS!" Guys, the 90's are over. Learn a new word. I enjoyed "Firefly" every week, I thought the episodes were entertaining and fun (I especially liked the episode where Mal ordered the ship evacuated). The sad thing is that "Firefly" is twice the show "Enterprise" is, but gets half the attention because Trekkies are too pre-programmed with stupid expectations.
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"our Ms.Reynolds" and "Bushwhacked" and "Safe" were really good too. Not that I didn't like "jaynestown" and "train job" and "shindig", I did. But the first three I mentioned were just as good as "ariel" and "out of gas"
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Trekkies have been force fed shit for so long that they can no longer tell quality entertainment anymore. Pity them.
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The best episodes have been the last few, and they've been better than any Star Trek episode I've ever seen. This has the potential to be a great TV show and even though it's not there yet I think there's a good chance it will. I dont blame fox executives for this shows demise, as you said seeing these episodes in a different order wouldnt have made much difference what they need is more quality exciting shows like Ariel.
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Sure, I'd like to see the Reavers, but according to the show they live in the deep areas of space and I think people try to avoid them usually. I don't think they're little bads, like little bads are on Buffy, the Reavers are more like a force of nature, no malice, no plans, they just jump whoever comes too close. Reavers are against anyone one group, like settlers or the Alliance, they
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I'm as dismayed as the next geek about yet another top-notch sf show getting the brush-off, but my ability to engage in meaningful dialog about same is GREATLY impaired by the fact that aicn has made the puzzling choice of posting talkbacks in seemingly random order. This is a continuing problem, around for a while, that no one in at the site seems to care about (or even notice?). What's UP with that?
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Fuck last posters! Fuck me like a Fox Progamming Exec! WITHOUT LUBE!
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