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Hey folks, Harry here. Today I was contacted by a source inside the Cartoon Network that said it was about time I figured out they were doing something with Lucas and STAR WARS. It seems that they are not in advance talks for the CLONE WARS, they've signed the deal. It's done. Complete... A Sure Thing.
The format will be serialized shorts to keep with the Star Wars Serial motif. These will not be half hour adventures, but more in the line of short films. These animated shorts will play inbetween two regular half hour cartoons in a fixed slot.
Genndy Tartakovsky (SAMURAI JACK fame) will produce - and the early development designs have evidently been pretty close to SAMURAI JACK in style, thus far, but currently they are in the middle of a whole new set of designs, so my source at the Cartoon Network isn't sure exactly how it'll come out, just the path they've been on thus far.
I'll stay on this series like mayo on peanut butter!
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A Clone Wars animated series...IN ANY FORM...may show that Star Wars in the hands of someone other than Lucas may prove alot of things, all of them good. I understand and realize that SW is Lucas' child, and he can do as he pleases, but with anything, change and a new perspective can breathe life into stagnant ideas. I wish nothing but the best for this serialized edition of shorts. I say bring it, and bring it hard...
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will the events depicted in the cartoon actually take place in the star wars universe? or will they be on the same lines of the games and stuff like that?
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Could be interesting...
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...wait a minute... hell no, it doesn't! Fuck all y'all bytchez! Send some more money to Georgie instead of complaining. The only problem I'll have with this series is the fact that the real actors' voices won't be used. Okay, maybe Frank Oz and Hayden Christensen (do they really have anything better to do?). But all the other guys'n'gals will probably be involved in some other project. And I, for one, don't want some guy that happened to be using a British accent at the time of casting act all Obi-Wan on our asses while he's so obviously not!!! So that's the only problem I have with the series. The movies never really exceeded the level of great cartoons anyway, IMHO.
Peace Out.
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Frank Oz is one of the most successful live action comedy film directors in Hollywood right now. I think he probably DOES have many, many other better things to do than do cartoon voice overs. Then again, what about that old Muppet Babbies cartoon? Did he do voice-over for that? Hmmmmm....
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Nov 15, 2002 8:40:50 PM CST
Real Dr. Strangelove here, accept no cheap imitations
by -dr.strangelove-
weird... werry, werry weird... I come online and people all of a sudden start calling me "immature", then i see this guy... This is like one of those cheesy Capt. Kirks evil twin brother episodes. So camp...
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Nov 15, 2002 8:43:19 PM CST
bwstarwars: In the words of Triumph, the insult comic dog, "you
by mr. waturi
Triumph is god. George Lucas fucks collies.
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All you need to know about the Clone Wars cartoon
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Taking up space in my window. Trying to do something cool, but you can't flow. Wonder if you stole it from somebody. Trying to flow like wine but you stinking like warm Tecate. If you trying to make a name, please explain, why you want to be known for being lame? Lame like a white girl listening to Dirty South. Leaving nothing but a bad taste in the mouth. So bring the same words to the plate. Keep hurting on the eyes all you gonna get is hate... from the fans, from the haters, from the geeks, 24-7, every day, every week. You can't be banned cause you aren't throwing slang and cussin' But you ain't well, you must need a shot of Robitussin. Don't be a buster if you can't be original. Cause sloppy rhyming is criminal. *Peace to the bacon grease, Middle East aight aight. For crissakes, stop posting that goddamn lame Star Wars rap.
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I wasn't interested until I read that Genndy Tartakovsky was involved. He's good.
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I know Spawn was their only animated series, but it rocked, and I don't even like spawn. Come on HBO, maybe something like a Kingdom Come or a Dark Knight returns would be perfect for you. I'm sure there's plenty of other adult-oriented GN's that they could adapt but I'm drunk right now. Someone else fill in the blanks. Thanks and sorry.
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What 8-10 minute shorts? It'd be better if they just aired STAR WARS fan films. What kind of a story can you build on in 10 minutes a week? I won't even bother watching this thing. It won't MATTER if it's canon or not because all you get is another war scene every week. Stormtroopers blowing up Battle Droids. It'll be like watching the same 10 minutes of CRAP every week! Can't possibly have an opening scroll because that'll take up nearly half the time. It figures. You know? With Lucas working on Episode III & Indy 4, what time does Lucasfilm have for some damn weekly cartoon? None. Well, 10 minutes a week, I guess. You won't need anymore than one voice actor because all the Clones have the same damn voice, and the Battle Droids will be too busy getting blown to pieces to have time to talk. This won't last three years, let alone one. Lucas demonstrates, yet again, that he doesn't exist in the real world. He likes to live in his fantasy world where people actually think Jar Jar is an entertaining & worthwhile character. I say Jar Jar is a waste of good harddrive space. He's not worth the pixels & the megabytes he's made out of. But back on track here, this idea simply blows chunks! Fuck 'em, gimmie SPACE GHOST: COAST TO COAST! A quality show on one of the BEST stations on television! Space Ghost RULES! -NJM
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Click not on the link posted above. Pop-up spam hell it is. If information you seek, find it there you will not! Oh, and suck, this cartoon will.
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It's dissapointing to see three minute episodes of Star Wars. Why not just stick them in front of movies and show them as trailers? KIDS watch Cartoon Network and are usually taking craps or getting food between shows and during commercials. How sad that such a thing shall be wasted to such a small audience.
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Nov 16, 2002 12:13:07 AM CST
Jeffrey Jones (the principal in Ferris Bueller) was charged with
by soulonice
and, oh yeah, it is sad sad sad that Lucas can do nothing but milk his franchise and not make anything new.
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Samuri Jack is easily the best Cartoon Series running. If they pull off this series with the style of Jack it can't help but be outstanding
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Nov 16, 2002 1:04:56 AM CST
Samurai Jack?....Why not in the style of Dexter's Laboratory?
by iggmcmc
Sample scenario:
Obi-Wan: Oh Anakin no no no!!!! Don't press the button on the ultratitaniumpressurizingcondensor system!
Anakin: Oh don't be silly Kenobi!! I've seen you do this millions of times!!
Obi-Wan: Yes, yes Annie I know but this time I do not have ze antidote! (covers both of his eyes with his hands as Didi I mean Annie presses the button on the ultratitaniumpressurizingcondensor system)
Anakin: Ayiyiyiyiyiyiyiiyiiii!!!!!
Obi-Wan: Now look! You've done it now Annie. You've changed into a super duper robota!
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Weak.
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Last I heard, HBO has Space Ace or Dragon's Lair in production somewhere. ---------- Tartakovsky is a great action director but poor storyteller; great match for this series :0D -------- And the Bestest Cartoon Series currently going is, hands down, Spongebob Squarepants.
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Dude...bwstarwars...I beat the holy living fucking shit out of a dipwad like you...he was a scrawny lil' college nerd D&D player at my college. I even visited his home. 23 years oldand still had fucking STAR WARS bed sheets. All the little toys all over the room. With a Batman Lamp (that made no sense in the all Star Wars decorum). Fucking A. If you were here right now I'd slap the living piss outta' you, give you beer, hook you up with a woman, then slap the fucking piss outta' you again because you wouldn't know what the fuck to do with her!
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Nov 16, 2002 3:10:51 AM CST
wierd and kooky. And I won't get to see it either. fuck. someb
by tall_boy
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...I just realized I dated this chic who was Star Trek freak. Trekker. Trekkie. Whatever the fuck you call them. Oh Mylanta! She was cute...don't get me wrong, but holy shit was she obsessed with that fucking show! We were going to go to a Ren. Festival, and she was like "Wouldn't it be kewl if we went in Starfleet Uniforms?! We could make fun of all the other people in their clownish medieval costumes and pretend we're on a primitive planet!" That should have been my first hint. But then she started talking marriage...in Starfleet Uniforms with everyone in costume, with a Romulan or Vulkan dude to marry us. Yeah. I got out FAST!!! If you guys want her number, lemme' know. OH YEAH! She's got hairy nips...looks fine shaven. But still hairy nips. Peace.
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dude, you are funny as shit. i know just what you mean, i dated a girl with hairy nips, it's kinda weird, huh? then she wonders why you won't "nurse" on her. anyway, i think star trek fans give star wars fans a bad rep. people always clunk us together with them, kind of insulting if you ask me, but hey, to each his own. anyway, i can deal with some samurai jack-style animation. i'm just thanking god it's not anime. i just can't deal with anymore big spikey hair and huge eyes. i'm sure most of you say this is gonna suck, but some of us have enough of a brain to at least wait to see it before we decide. and just keep saying lucas is milking the cash cow, fine with me, i'll enjoy it. i'd do the same fucking thing. i like money, don't you? who doesn't? oh and whoever said james marsters should be tarkin, you are a fucking genius. never even thought of it, wonderful idea, let's start writing some letters to get it done. i don't care if you don't like buffy, you have to admit that marsters is a superb actor, or maybe you don't. you won't admit anything is superb, or even ok. everything sucks to you people, that's why i hate you so much. fuck you guys.
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Dude...I tip my hat to you sir. Fellow member of the hairy nips club. As I said, shaven she was fine. Anyhoo...I dunno about this Star Wars animated. I thought Droids was the shit back in the day, but then, I also thought the "Inhumanoids" was the shit, too. Even though it was about Giant Subterrean Monsters, it threw out some technobabble in it's inane dialog. Terms like "Moho Discontinuity" ergo making "highbrow" and "above" other 'toons like "Smurfs" (but then...what isn't highbrow compared to that never-ending battle?!). Anyhoo...back to the point: Droids was okay. But Ewoks. Oh god! What a fucking piece of ROTJ afterbirth! I swear to god! That's reason enough to not do this...
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...'Cause The Littles Don't Stop! I'd rather sit through 8 hours of that than a Clone Wars train wreck. And yes...Genndy Tartarkovsky does indeed rule, as does Samurai Jack.
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Nov 16, 2002 5:59:41 AM CST
now we know why Mr. Rooney was after Ferris Bueller so badly....
by red raider
....and why do I get the sense that this new animated Clone Wars show will show all the battles, then Lucas will start Ep.3 after the Clone War has concluded? I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that's how it's going to play out.....
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but I had to laugh when I read "Episode III opens with a climactic space battle". THAT was quick, and hey, no Jar-Jar. If you're not sure why OPENING or STARTING something with a climactic space battle, something that should come at the end or conclusion of something would be so funny, then hairy nips are the best you could hope for.
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I like the idea of having the short film format. This will avoid the shabby presentation of practically any other Star Wars cartoon. Having Genndy Tartakovsky's name attached to the project will ensure a quality product. Perhaps Lucas has seen that animation is not always for children and sometimes it's for fifth graders like us!
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"animated shorts"? oh come on! they're commercials! "appearing between two half hour shows"? so what, hey will be 1 minute, 2 minutes long tops? that's retarded! the Clone Wars could easily have two seasons worth of continuous shows. and Lucas could easily hire any number of high profile writers to script the entire arc. i mean, i'm sure these will be cool -- i love SAMURAII JACK and Tartovsky's work -- but animated shorts is not what i was looking forward too. full blown shows is what i wanted. still, those AEON FLUX shorts were amazing... so maybe this can work? at any rate, he's got the rigt peopel working on it, so that's promising...
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That fat stupid FUCK (no not Harry, I mean George) can never EVER recover from what he has done with the latest episodes. To hell with it!
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Is that all ya got Uncle BA? Doubt I'd even notice your toothpick dick. In any event, this entire topic bores me to tears. A lame cable net agrees to run long Lucasfilm ads in hopes a dopey audience will tune in and some sign anyone care about the net and/or an increasingly obtuse, ossified sf franchise. Harry, his brain addled by chronic auto-erotic asphyxiation, somehow thinks this is news. Once again......yawn
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Nov 16, 2002 10:26:41 AM CST
Who knew something so goofy as "Who da man? Yo da man!!!" would
by terry_1978
Honestly, it's the dorkiest thing I've ever heard, but it's become my new catch phrase...lord, i need help.
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Nov 16, 2002 10:53:56 AM CST
Smegma, if your constant yawning is anything to go by, it's cle
by cosmic commando
Wow, nothing changes. An aicn talkback full of predictable mindless trashing - I swear if the internet was a gun most of you would have your brains splattered on the carpet by now. Just accept the fact that the SW magic eludes you in your jaded elder years, don't get tour testicles in a twist about it, and don't hold out hope for Ep 3 restoring your faith, cos if you haven't got it by now, you never will! lmao!.Clones rocked, and this animated series has every reason to be great as well. End transmission. You may continue with wasting your lives on being yourselves.
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man, that 'rap' just goes on forever, doesn't it? finally saw CLONES for the first time last week. i really can't see what it is about it that gets all these haters going. sure, it's got some terrible dialogue, and a few rough spots in the CGI. is it as good as ALIENS? no. but it is certainly better than ALIEN3/4, not to mention EP 1. just what do these people want anyways? side note: NATALIE PORTMAN. has GOD ever graced the earth with a greater beauty? show me.
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I for one was interested in the idea of an animated series. It could be great, it could be crap, either way it will be a headache for fans who want to tape it.
I was sadly disapointed to read the posts. Trolls abound! And people taking the bait. I know that there are people who don't care for the films, the genre, or the fans. There are plenty of things I abhore, yet I don't find myself posting rambling, curse laden spewage at locations frequented by those who disagree with me. These posts are not debate, rational arguments, or free sheech. They are simply attempts to anger some one, and all the stereotypical name calling only piques the interest of other trollers. "Wow! I bet that go get laid comment sure put those nerds in their place.", "yeah, huh-huh-huh. Now let's watch wrestling and not notice the homo-erotic nature of the entertainmant".
BTW:
I too enjoy watching a little wrestling.
The idea for a young Tarkin is perfect!
3-5 minute episodes will be a royal pain. Maybe when done all will be played in a marathon.
I am looking forward to E3, and don't have a problem with George doing whatever he wants.
A Batman lamp sounds cool.
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It died with that assinine "Who da Man?....Yoda Man?" advertising line that is all over my television.
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Nov 16, 2002 1:14:29 PM CST
Jesus! Am I the only one here who actually "gets" the true natur
by neofromthematrix
The Midichlorians ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRESENCE OF THE FORCE!!!! The Force is a form of spiritual energy that pervades throughout the Universe! The Midichlorians are merely microscopic organisms that are ATTRACTED to the Force in the same manner insects are attracted to a porchlight at night! The Jedi estimate how powerful the Force is within someone by verifying the amount of Midichlorians present in their body! They cannot directly verify the amount of Force present itself by using a scientific instrument, simply because the Force is purely spiritual in nature! GET IT?!!
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Nov 16, 2002 1:14:38 PM CST
Jesus! Am I the only one here who actually "gets" the true natur
by neofromthematrix
The Midichlorians ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRESENCE OF THE FORCE!!!! The Force is a form of spiritual energy that pervades throughout the Universe! The Midichlorians are merely microscopic organisms that are ATTRACTED to the Force in the same manner insects are attracted to a porchlight at night! The Jedi estimate how powerful the Force is within someone by verifying the amount of Midichlorians present in their body! They cannot directly verify the amount of Force present itself by using a scientific instrument, simply because the Force is purely spiritual in nature! GET IT?!!
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Nov 16, 2002 1:47:45 PM CST
I truly can't imagine what Samurai Obi Wan will look like...
by enigmainyourhead
or if Palpatine will look Aku-ish, but this is coolness. Panelled lightsaber slashing sequences full of exploding droids. Tasty.
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that the STAR WARS saga is NOT the story of the JEDI, or the empire, or even of good vs. evil, but the story of one DROID, and how he helps to save the galaxy?
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This is only a theory, but what if Obiwan Kenobi was a Sith all along? Think about it: If Qui Gon-Jinn was a Darth, and he recruted Anakin to become the greatest Sith lord of all time, wouldn't it make sense that his apprentice Obiwan would take Anakin under his wing after his death? Perhaps Obiwan shall eventually realize that the Dark Side is evil and must be destroyed in Episode III, and as Obiwan truly becomes a warrior of the light, Anakin will fall into the darkness? Just a thought.
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I bought Spider Man and I keep all the Proof of Purchases from the DVD I get, but my Black Hawk Down one is unmarked, I have it narrowed down to about 5 posibilities. Does anyone know the Prook of Purchase number, or the color of it so I can get my free DVD?
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Nov 16, 2002 2:16:06 PM CST
Hayden Christenson must have refused Rex Reed's advances at a pa
by sea bass
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...never lower your expectations to hairy nipples.
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Tell me...does Dracula get to beat up a muppet?
How come my local supermarket has loads of copies of Star Wars II for sale and no fucker buying them?
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...are mostly classics. Rex Reed doesn't know his asshole from a pussy. Christopher Lee is the man and he does indeed beat up a muppet! And HOWARD THE DUCK OWNS!!! Lucasfilm abortion indeed. And piss on your muppets.
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What was with that scene in Ep.II when 3po lost his head? (was that supposed to be funny?)..How come the clone troopers seem way more effective and efficient than the storm troopers in IV, V, VI...Jango's death seemed hollow to me..baby Vader and Christpher Lee's light saber duel was the weakest ever..We needed less Jar Jar more Maul in Ep.I..If natalie Portman is such a good actress why is she always so wooden in all her scenes?...'Attack of the Clones' is the worst title in film history..Han shot first..Chimmy used to be a big fan but now Chimmy can care less about Star Wars..
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This is going to be great and just watch now as all the naysayers try to tell us that Star Wars is dead. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Star Wars is never going away because it means too much to too many people.
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Nov 16, 2002 3:40:10 PM CST
The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight, i.e. Old Trilogy Stormtro
by renonevada2000
The more likely explanation is that with Jango dead, the cloners had no new source material to work from. (Boba propably haven taken a powder.) They probably started "recycling" material from troopers all ready in existence, and thus slowly degrading the material (a copy of a copy of a copy).
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I really don't think the Empire would be sedning out 66-year-old stormtroopers. The better explaination would be that in Episode II, the creatures on Kamino said they needed Jango Fett to hang around because they need a fresh sample every now and then or the current sample will eventually turn out poorer clones. Well Jango is dead and the available sample is probably turning out poorer and poorer clones.
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What with the inevitable disppointment the fans felt when comparing the the original trilogy to the new, it got me thinking. Why didn't George put all that time and money into creating a truely spectacular ORIGINAL sci-fi epic trilogy that would not have had the weight of expectation caused by the TRUE trilogy. He could have included all the politics he liked and got away with it.
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it certainly is not winning very many new fans with the crap that's out there now..another thing thing that bothers me...It seems like the droid star fighters (in Ep.I)were way faster and more manverable than the supposedly newer TIE fighters in the original trilogy..The TIE fighters seem like a step down..They provided a larger target and were as flimsy and durable as paper.
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so is it a couple of shorts between two shows or is it a couple of shorts to fill a half hour between two other half hour shows?
and I hope they don't do it Samurai Jack style.
I like the show, but all I can think of when I watch it is how much better it would be with "real" animation. I just get tired of watching cardboard cut-out versions of what should be great action scenes.
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Nov 16, 2002 8:13:49 PM CST
X2 Comiccon Footage At Quicktime OR... Well, What're You Waiting
by jollydwarf
Go, shoo. Go see it. Now.
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Or, since the Kaminonians (sp?) have lost the original template for their clones, thanks to Mace, they are forced to continue filling the order with copies of copies. That would be one of the main downsides to an accelerated aging clone army is that you would have to replenish them fairly regularly. Wonder what happens to the aging clones?
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I have a ? If all of you either hate Star Wars and George Lucas with a passion, than why are you on a TB badmouthing him and the films. I would like to see all of you make a better series of films and create something even remotely close to this franchise.
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It would be geeky, yes, but very cool. Imagine if the MF shows up, brand-new, and Obi-Wan is the one who christens it. This would give a new ironic subtext to the scene in ANH when Han asks Obi-Wan if he's ever heard of the MF. I commend the explanations here by those here regarding the Clone Troopers vs. Storm Troopers, the Midis and how they are related to the Force, and Boba's "scalps" -- very good ideas. I hope this is exactly what George Lucas already has in mind for these things. A theory I have: I don't think Siddeous and Palpatine are the same person. This would explain why none of the Jedi have been able to sense anything odd about Palpatine. Siddeous is a Sith spirit possessing the body of a dying host. His plan will be to get Palpatine to strike him down in anger with a saber. Thus, this will enable Siddeous to take over Palpatine's body. What does everybody think about this possibility? It would tie into ROTJ and why Palpatine wanted Luke -- he wanted to possess his body next, but Vader stopped his son from striking down Palpatine in anger.
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It's Saturday, 10:15 P.M. and I'm here posting. What a loo-zer I am. So why don't you flame me? But anyways, Professor Pop Tart--I mean "Cult"--I agree that the Falcon SHOULD be in Ep. III. It's beyond a cool idea. It's a no-brainer. If you can't get Han in the prequels, at least get that bad-ass hunk o' junk. And (crossing fingers) Chewie. And making it a low-mileage version would allow Lucas to sell the new version of the toy to us pathetic fools. Hell, if Ep. III has prototypes of all the classic trilogy ships, that ALONE will be worth the ticket price. Seriously. The Sidious idea is a good one, even if it seems a little too Voldemo--oops--"You-Know-Who-ish". I always thought the Emperor (or "emporer", ha ha) was trying to bait Luke into dueling and eventually killing Vader, because he probably saw how fucked-up Vader's agenda was. Use 'em for a couple decades, then dispense with 'em. After all, the Sith have a history of getting ambitious and having their "Et tu, Brute?" moments. I think Palp's a clone, personally. But Lucas would be wise to throw in as much O.T. schtuff as practical in THE LAST STAR WARS MOVIE...EVER!!! He got the kiddies and the illiterates from the first two prequels. He can really step up to the plate and have his Kirk Gibson moment in '05. Hey, this Gentleman Jack ain't half-bad. Think Il'l hvae annuthur........
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Today I had little to do so I watched TPM and AOTC back to back and liked TPM more than I remember, but still found its faults. Loved AOTC as much as I remember. Watching them as a 4 hour movie is quite cool and works well, as it's supposed to. If they do put the Falcon in Ep3, they should do so under one condition. That we get to see it make the Kessel Run is less than twelve parsecs.
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I'd just like to thank each and every one of you delightful people. You never fail to raise a smile. I almost never post, but i can't get enough of your crazy antics. Your continuing quest to piss each other off for no apparent reason. It would be sad if it wasn't so hilarious.
Seriously now, you should use this as a forum for constructive discourse and feel honoured that someone else cares enough about your opinion to read it. By constructive discourse i don't mean typing that you wish someone had anal sex visited upon them and then copy it five hundred times. Do you think anyone cares? That all us talkback readers are sitting back thoughtfully and saying: "What a frightfully witty put down. So clever and so richly deserved. 'Fuck him in the ass!' five hundred times. How original. How droll."? I think not. You are only proving to anyone who could be bothered reading, that your opinion about star wars is as valid as any other hatefull, gibbering moron.
Now i am going to attempt to practice what i preach and say nothing more about any of you. But if anyone is interested in my own humble opinion. I have some thoughts on star wars.
First let me say that star wars is the intellectual property of george lucas. He owes nothing to anyone. He should continue making whatever he wants to make, whether i think it is worthwhile or not.
Personally i have not greatly enjoyed episodes 1 or 2. i have found them to be lacking soul. Lucas seems to have become a fan of his own work in the worst sense. Rather than tell a story that is worth telling, he has become obsessed with filling in pointless back ground detail so that he gets a buzz when some hard core fan says: :Oh...So that's why when yoda gets old he looks like a puppet! Wow, all the pieces have finally fallen into place. Now i can sleep at night."
Personally, i have found the story unsatisfying and unnecessary. Episodes 1-3 might have workeed great as a ten minute prologue but they are not movies in their own right. The place for the telling of these tales are somewhere that they are accessible to the hard core fans (comics, novels, pornographic pop-up books, etc)without affronting the casual viewer.
In terms of production, the whole thing looks like some kind of weird cartoon. Lucas is so obsessed with the latest way of achieving an effect, he's not interested in the greatest way to achieve an effect. You've only got to look at lord of the rings to see the stunning and seemless work that can be achieved by using the right tool for the right job (cgi, puppets, miniatures, etc).
In terms of directing, i do not greatly admire lucas. Not only does he cast bad actors (where was Hayley Joel Osment in ep 1?) but he also manages to take proven actors (Portman, Neeson, McGregor)and wrangle them into appearing like drama school drop outs (some directors couldn't do this deliberately! But lucas has a talent).
After all is said and done. Unle George has done me no great disservice. I liked the original star wars and i can still enjoy them. I dont like the new ones and he never strapped me down and made me watch them. The one thing i do like about star wars is how passionately people can debate the relative merits. Lets please have more of this and less mindless bashing of each other. You are all going over to the dark side.
Some final thoughts:
Episode 3 should not get a theatrical release, but should be chopped into ten minute segments and broadcast on cartoon network.
Spoilers follow: Yoda is kicked from the Jedi council after they discover his terrible secret: that he is really a hobbit.
Jar Jar Binks and Sam Jackson leave Corascant to start a rap group: Pretty fly for a jedi.
And while we hoped those cray kids would work it out, anikan goes insane and is driven to the dark side when on his wedding night he discovers Senator Amidala has hairy nipples. She calls them her little wookies and is quite fond of them, but he can't stand em. Yecchhh!
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there are a few haters in here, but i've never seen such an outcry from the true fans before. i'm really happy about this, guys. those of you who have either been completely annoyed or mildly enjoyed my little rants are probably wondering what happened to me, but there are alot of you out there who came forth and said your piece and brought one sour asshole a little bit of hope. i'm looking forward to seeing more talkbacks like this one, maybe i won't have to be so vulgar and derogitory from now on. but don't worry, i'm sure there will be plenty of more opportunities to put some "talkbacker fuckheads" in their place in the future. but for now color me content. thank you all, seriously.
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as proven long ago by the genius that was Peter Chung's "Aeon Flux". All due respect to mr Tartakovsky, as cool as Samurai Jack is, I don't think the style
would migrate well to another Franchise. With SJ, the directing is incredibly tight but the stylized rendering of the characters and backgrounds is too
distinctive and neo-construction paper-y (ie purposely flat) to work with something like Star Wars. I am, however, looking forward to seeing Lucas let other (cough, cough, more talented, cough, cough) creators play with his zillion dollar toys. I also
don't think that we're going to see many, if any, established characters running around on a regular basis. Will be interesting to see what they do with it. I'm betting on a running time of not less than 5 minutes per installment. I just hope they pull the character designs together a little tighter and use brighter color schemes. Just think about it this way, at least it's not going to be CGI. I
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Because a live action series has to be well written and an animated series doesn
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Talkbacker Fuckheads...that just ROLLS OFF THE TONGUE! I love it! Meatcleaver, fuck the case & sister's friends...I'm just gonna' send my sister & a keg!
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Nov 17, 2002 2:49:45 AM CST
You know, just because it's CGI doesn't necessarily means it loo
by spacephil
I've also heard CGI applied to shows that just use computers to do 2D-style animation. I'm specifically thinking of the late, great Invader Zim. Also: as soon as I heard Tartarovsky's on it, I was interested. Looking forward to it.
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Nov 17, 2002 3:14:22 AM CST
Uh no...midichlorians are microscopic lifeforms that reside with
by iggmcmc
Basically that means the person who thought midichlorians are not responsible for the force is totally wrong. First of all force is not something only Jedi have (Yoda tells that even rocks and everything in the universe can be connected by force) which means even non-jedis have midichlorians. Jedis simply have a lot of midichlorians within each cell that they can control the force willingly.
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It is possible he may have been conceived by the midichlorians.
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you are now my partner. together we shall rid this site of all the false movie geeks and banish them to movie hell. by the way, when are we supposed to be seeing this clone wars cartoon? i just plain forgot. i hope it's not like the old g.i. joe cartoon, where despite all the gunfire, no one was ever shot and everyone ejected just as their vehicle was exploding. i thought medichlorian was a type of salad dressing? "trying real hard to be a good boy" MeatCleaverMojo
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Nov 17, 2002 4:31:49 AM CST
I there anything sadder that a person who knows how to spell mid
by the outlander
George Lucas should be devoured by midichlorians.
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Nov 17, 2002 5:29:04 AM CST
Heh, heh....every time I read talkback Star Wars negativity....
by robinp
...I rewatch "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back" and everything's better again.
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Nov 17, 2002 5:58:12 AM CST
Little shorts in between half hour cartoons? Seems like Lucas li
by theginger twit
Yeah that's all.
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Nov 17, 2002 6:15:02 AM CST
"I rewatch "Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back" and everything's bette
by qwerty uiop
Whys that? So you can vicariously imagine yourself as manly enough to actually fight someone? HAHAHAHA. Nerd.
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yo star wars is... nahhh fuck it.
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I'm surprised noone's thought of this yet-or maybe they have and it's slipped by me. Things do slip by sometimes, you know? Like that time I wrote to Harry with the scoop about John Logan on Trek 10, and I got no reply, then a month later it's breaking news credited to somebody else who wrote in. But anyway.
The Falcon would have fit perfectly as the transport that Padme and "Ani" (chuckle) hid on-first, it'd have looked more dingy and low end look than that newer, big frieghter they took-far more suitable for "refugees". Second, it'd give a nice twist of meaning when Vader says in Empire "I want that ship!" It'd give him a much better reason for wanting to capture the ship rather than just blow it up, and it'd be a much nicer wink to the original movies than "You'll be the death of me!"
Third, it would be subtle enough that it doesn't scream "Look, here it is, stop bitching for it, PLEASE, you pathetic fanboy bastards!", like some OTHER episode 2 appearances do.....Fett, we're looking your way. -
That the defense a majority of people use when someone says they don't like Star Wars is that that person is old...tired....doesn't tap into their inner child anymore...Lucas hating...et all. I would say the reason that I didn't like both of the two prequels is because they sucked. I'm as big a Star Wars original trilogy as the next guy, but these prequels so far have all the importance of a sitcom reunion show. There is no storyline, no drama, and people seem to cut them a break simply because they say Star Wars in front of whatever ridiculous surname they have. Face it, if these weren't Lucas vehicles they would be lambasted and ripped to shreds by most of the people on this board. I can understand people liking them because they remind them of their youth and they are a link to the original trilogy, but this "oh you're just a dumb ass grownup who doesn't understand Star Wars' defense is bullshit and needs to stop. Lucas lovers need to realize these movies aren't made of steel and instead are filled with assinine moments. Like I said before...Star Wars is dead.
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the more i think about it, the more it creeps me out. i did the same thing DARTH MELKOR did (altho i, of course, fast-forwarded over jar-jar), and played a little JEDI KNIGHT 2 to boot. works for me. side note: the mindless bashing is half the fun of being here! my only request for EP 3 - A DECENT TITLE.
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Nov 17, 2002 11:36:25 AM CST
SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: I, formerly "Rick McCallum", have taken on
by idfuckavril
Ah! It was time for a change.
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With Lucas' legendary control over every step of the process of his movies through development, production, advertising and exhibition, why the hell would he have let that stupid Yodaman commercial come out? it kind of undercuts the movie which tried to have a rather serious tone, but then again, he did put Jar Jar Binks in Number 1. I think the next one should have a rap soundtrack, get the young folks interested!
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you need to get a hobby or something dude.
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Now, Qwerty....obviously I couldn't plant my foot in your ass and leave a footprint because you're the typical basement dewlling, momma's boy early teenaged, spoilt, negative, friendless, know all, smart mouth, non girlfriend having, virginal, anal retentive, name badge wearing, fast food career heading loser that "Jay & Silent Bob" mock, who'd hide behind a curtain of anonymity, thus ensuring that you'd never be found.
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I'm always surprised at the ignorance level here. People seem to think that production companies and actors only exist when they're part of a geek vehicle. In another talkback, someone mentioned that Jersey Films had only done Erin Brockovich and nothing else (WOW). Another poster above was saying that Haydn Christensen had no career options other than doing voice work for a stupid Star Wars cartoon. Check some of his other flicks out, Like LIFE AS A HOUSE, you'll realize that the kid has acting chops, but any good actor can only do so much with a shite script and director (like in AOTC - Christ, everyone was terrible in that one). Lastly, the constant harping on Bruce Campbell in every role, talkbackers here are part of a smaller world than they imagine, just because you like him doesn't mean his rabid fanbase is 40 million strong, there IS a reason why he isn't even on the third string list of casting ideas!
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AOTC and TPM were both great films. They've made over $1.563 BILLION between them.
Yet some sad people are trying to convince us that they were failures and that no one likes Star Wars anymore. hahahahahahahahahahaahahha
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We are not supposed to bitch about how childish the new episodes are because they ARE made for kids, right? Target audience, right?
Well, there is a small link on starwars.com called "Star Wars Kids". Hardly noticable link. Meagre content.
I dont get it. If kids are the target audience, why not place the kiddy content as main and a small link called "Star Wars Adults"?
Until they do, I will continue to bitch about how childish the new episodes are.
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Nov 17, 2002 2:13:25 PM CST
Future Guy is merely a pretender. I, however, truly am a time tr
by neofromthematrix
"Star Wars- Episode III: Fall of the Jedi" begins three years after AOTC, during the last battle of the Clone War. There are only thirteen Jedi remaining, and the twins, Luke and Leia, are already born. Anakin is now a very powerful Jedi knight, and one of the best starfighter pilots ever, as demonstrated in the opening sequence. The war is over, the Republic has won, the separatists have been defeated, and everyone is going home to Coruscant. All of the Jedi are aboard two starcruisers, Obiwan, Anakin, Mace and Yoda on one, the rest on the other, and then theres a surprise attack. Some rogue separatists have destroyed several starships, including the one carrying nine of the remaining thirteen Jedi. Once having returned to Coruscant, Palpatine deplores this unprovoqued attack, and suggest that the Republic remains on high alert, watching out for more terrorist attempts. But there are only few thousand clone troopers left, the majority of them having been killed during the war. Since the Kaminoeans don't have any more of Jango Fett's fresh genetic material, and since they don't want to make an inferior copy (a clone of a clone usually has several defects), Palpatine begins to recrute millions of ordinary people from the general population to become the first Stormtroopers. Yoda and the others get a bad feeling from this initiative. Meanwhile, Obiwan wants to ensure Padme's safety, so he has a new security system installed, that kills anyone attempting to enter her quarters without proper authorisation with an explosive device. Its pretty radical, but there have been many assassination attempts on senators' lives lately. Everyone is already on heightened alert, and when the Senate (along with most of the senators) is blown up, Palpatine declares a state of interstellar martial law throughout the Republic. Mace and Anakin are hot on the trail of the person responsible, whom they believe to be a Sith, an apprentice of Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus. At this point in the film, there is a lot of flash-and-dash, a lot of boring answers to insignificant questions from the first trilogy, but FINALLY, around 1h45m into the film, Anakin turns evil. This is done WAY too overdramatically. I mean, EVERYONE knows that this pathetic little bitch will one day become Darth Vader, but they should really have come up with a better reason than that. Anakin turns over to the dark side simply because PALPATINE TELLS HIM "ANAKIN, I AM YOUR FATHER!". Yeah, thats right folks, Palpatine shagged Anakin's mother in her sleep back on Tatooine, and Anakin finding out that A) Palpatine is in reality Darth Sidious (duh!), and that B) he's the son the the great Sith master, just pushes his tormented little soul over the edge, and he takes Darth Tyrannus' place by his side. Then, later on, Obiwan and Anakin face-off. Just as Anakin is about to kill Obiwan (wuss), Padme walks in. Anakin doesn't know what to do, its as if his humanity returned to him for a moment there, but then Obiwan (the genius that he is) tells Padme to run away, to BARRICADE HERSELF IN HER QUARTERS. Anakin realizes what Obiwan has apparently forgetten (the security system/explosive device), the scream out "NOOOOOOO!" as he runs towards her, as the door to her quarters opens up, and then BOOM!!!! Both are presumed dead. The Republic is being transformed into an Empire, there are stormtroopers everywhere, so Mace takes Leia to safety, Obiwan takes Luke to Tatooine, and Yoda travels to that swamp planet. But right after Mace leaves Leia on that planet that shall eventually get a first taste of the Daeth Star, he meets Darth Vader. They lightsaber-fight, but Mace gets his puny ass kicked, and as Vader strangles him slowly using his mind, he takes off his mask, only for a moment to show Mace who he truly is. Thats when we see Anakin's depthless eyes (above and beyond DUH!), and the movie ends with a shot of Obiwan on Tatooine, of Yoda on that swamp planet, and a final shot of Darth Vader's band new Imperial Tie Fighter returning to Coruscant, the final shot being the cyberized, soulless Anakin standing by Emperor Palpatine's side, as they watch his giant statue being erected. THE END (or is it?). - I know Kung Fu.
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Nov 17, 2002 2:13:33 PM CST
Future Guy is merely a pretender. I, however, truly am a time tr
by neofromthematrix
"Star Wars- Episode III: Fall of the Jedi" begins three years after AOTC, during the last battle of the Clone War. There are only thirteen Jedi remaining, and the twins, Luke and Leia, are already born. Anakin is now a very powerful Jedi knight, and one of the best starfighter pilots ever, as demonstrated in the opening sequence. The war is over, the Republic has won, the separatists have been defeated, and everyone is going home to Coruscant. All of the Jedi are aboard two starcruisers, Obiwan, Anakin, Mace and Yoda on one, the rest on the other, and then theres a surprise attack. Some rogue separatists have destroyed several starships, including the one carrying nine of the remaining thirteen Jedi. Once having returned to Coruscant, Palpatine deplores this unprovoqued attack, and suggest that the Republic remains on high alert, watching out for more terrorist attempts. But there are only few thousand clone troopers left, the majority of them having been killed during the war. Since the Kaminoeans don't have any more of Jango Fett's fresh genetic material, and since they don't want to make an inferior copy (a clone of a clone usually has several defects), Palpatine begins to recrute millions of ordinary people from the general population to become the first Stormtroopers. Yoda and the others get a bad feeling from this initiative. Meanwhile, Obiwan wants to ensure Padme's safety, so he has a new security system installed, that kills anyone attempting to enter her quarters without proper authorisation with an explosive device. Its pretty radical, but there have been many assassination attempts on senators' lives lately. Everyone is already on heightened alert, and when the Senate (along with most of the senators) is blown up, Palpatine declares a state of interstellar martial law throughout the Republic. Mace and Anakin are hot on the trail of the person responsible, whom they believe to be a Sith, an apprentice of Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus. At this point in the film, there is a lot of flash-and-dash, a lot of boring answers to insignificant questions from the first trilogy, but FINALLY, around 1h45m into the film, Anakin turns evil. This is done WAY too overdramatically. I mean, EVERYONE knows that this pathetic little bitch will one day become Darth Vader, but they should really have come up with a better reason than that. Anakin turns over to the dark side simply because PALPATINE TELLS HIM "ANAKIN, I AM YOUR FATHER!". Yeah, thats right folks, Palpatine shagged Anakin's mother in her sleep back on Tatooine, and Anakin finding out that A) Palpatine is in reality Darth Sidious (duh!), and that B) he's the son the the great Sith master, just pushes his tormented little soul over the edge, and he takes Darth Tyrannus' place by his side. Then, later on, Obiwan and Anakin face-off. Just as Anakin is about to kill Obiwan (wuss), Padme walks in. Anakin doesn't know what to do, its as if his humanity returned to him for a moment there, but then Obiwan (the genius that he is) tells Padme to run away, to BARRICADE HERSELF IN HER QUARTERS. Anakin realizes what Obiwan has apparently forgetten (the security system/explosive device), the scream out "NOOOOOOO!" as he runs towards her, as the door to her quarters opens up, and then BOOM!!!! Both are presumed dead. The Republic is being transformed into an Empire, there are stormtroopers everywhere, so Mace takes Leia to safety, Obiwan takes Luke to Tatooine, and Yoda travels to that swamp planet. But right after Mace leaves Leia on that planet that shall eventually get a first taste of the Daeth Star, he meets Darth Vader. They lightsaber-fight, but Mace gets his puny ass kicked, and as Vader strangles him slowly using his mind, he takes off his mask, only for a moment to show Mace who he truly is. Thats when we see Anakin's depthless eyes (above and beyond DUH!), and the movie ends with a shot of Obiwan on Tatooine, of Yoda on that swamp planet, and a final shot of Darth Vader's band new Imperial Tie Fighter returning to Coruscant, the final shot being the cyberized, soulless Anakin standing by Emperor Palpatine's side, as they watch his giant statue being erected. THE END (or is it?). - I know Kung Fu.
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Let me start by saying that Star Wars is one of the best set of movies yet imho. But what startles me the most is the fact that I see all kinds of nicely crafted and designed objects in the new ones, like spacecraft (the Queens ship?) and such, as opposed to the rubble, ruins and outright 70's and 80's scifi style objects of the older ones. I mean, most of the ships for instance in the older movies sometimes look like a piece of string and some ductape is all that's keeping 'em together. It really irritates me in the newer ones that the universe seems so much more technically advanced than in the older movies.
And I just don't take it that with the empire in place and all, everything all of a sudden gets "downgraded" . . .
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By any normal criteria(i.e. not SW fanboy "whatever it's star wars and it must be good damnit" type of criticism) the 2 prequels are simply good looking bad films.The first is just awful, the second very dissapointing. TPM is a horrible film:it lacked an interesting story,drama, interesting characters, believable action- 60% of act III was a cartoon(too much cgi*)and that shithead Jar Jar Binks wrecked the film's chance of being just O.K. That little bastard Jake Loyd(anyone seen this child? call 1-800-shitty-child-actors) didn't make me care about Anakin's story.Becoming Darth Vader is an improvement over the "good man that was destroyed forever"-at least he finally becomes cool! AOTC had some good moments in the last 45 minutes-until then it's unforgiveably boring.The absence of Jake Loyd,Jar Jar and those lame ass Gungans were the reasons the elevate it above TPM.I did like Christopher Lee but it's still not a great film. It's uneven and Anakin's romance with Amidala is cringe inducing. And we're supposed to believe she's 24-25 too despite both actors are the same age? sigh. I agree with one of the talk backers who said Episode III: Just end it already! or whatever. STAR WARS IS TOAST!!!As for this cartoon show:Remember how "Young Indy" was really gay and a waste of time? George, come with some new shit and stop milking your dead cash cows! If you can't do that then please retire! feck! -Thank you :)
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Dear lord,
Why is it cool to bash everything on earth? If cultures can be killed by bad advertising then we are all dead. I promised myself years ago that I wouldn't try to refute any silly Star Wars bash that I come across....promise broken.
Having played with the Episode II DVD last week I relaized that the Lucas universe is far from perfect. Better scripts can be written, better actors placed, better ads created. Yet as a whole the movie does what it is supposed to.....add a chapter to a story over time.
But can you find a fictional universe over time any less flawed? No, you can't. And don't give me any Matrix or LOTR rebuttal either....these are just as flawed as any episode in Star wars.
Just accept the fact that the story George has been telling for the last 25 years is beautiful, relevant, and well-told....not DEAD. This is why we should be happy that we will get to see more of it....lots more.
Let the countdoiwn to 'Clone War' begin.
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Serialized shorts? That's dissappointing.
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Who da man? Yoda man!
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...the veal is fine. Avoid the sushi. And whatever you do, don't fondle the hairy nipples!!!
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...I'm about two steps away from bitch-slapping bwstarwars. Rapping about Star Wars isn't bad enough, but now he's rapping about Spider-Man. I'm guessing he's like a nerd king. Y'know the type. He's the grand high muckey-muck of nerds. The nerd who has a posse at Borders that follow dilligentley into the Sci-Fi & Fantasy section without fail. He's big shit, commanding all the other lesser nerds into what should be there fave Star Trek episode, Babylon Five Character, debates about who'd be better in bed - 7 of 9 or Gabrielle from Hercules and the importance of mechanical web-shooters in Spider-Man. For all these atounding powers, he's helpless when the shallow hot chic from Gap disses him at the food court.
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honestly man, enough (ONCE every few years) is enough.
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Nov 17, 2002 6:07:53 PM CST
BWSTARWARS = "BARRY" from TheForce.net's gay forums "The JC"
by darthsapient
bwstarwars is also known "Barry" from TheForce.net's anal-retentive, trekkie-like forums "The JC". You can learn more about bwstarwars/barry here: www.modsquad.virtualdogshit.com Me? Well I'm Administrator at TheForce.net's forums (boards.theforce.net). You may notice in some AICN talkbacks a ghey by the name of "Sea Bass". Sea Bass is also a administrator at theforce.net's ghey forums "The JC". (Sea Bass is known as "Padme Bra" at The JC) What do "administrators" at theforce.net's forums do? Well we can log in as your username and read your personal messages and get your passwords (We do this frequently) Another thing TFN board administrators do is get "e-pussy" by offering underage JC girls free TFN tshirts and other shit. I hope when Episode III comes out, Joshua Griffen flys me out to a expensive Charity Preview like he did with others with AOTC. Well I'm off to watch my free AOTC DVD I received from Joshua Griffen. The JC, turning starwars fans into trekkies since 1997.
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Just what exactly is wrong with being a typical basement dewlling, momma's boy early teenaged, spoilt, negative, friendless, know all, smart mouth, non girlfriend having, virginal, anal retentive, name badge wearing, fast food career heading loser that "Jay & Silent Bob" mock, and how do you know so much about my life? Have you been following me? I'll get you, you bastard!
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There was an interview somewhere with a productin designer or something saying so, before getting looks from Ben Burtt.
And we will find out why it's so important to Han. You heard it here first. -
No, it's not cool to bash everything for the sake of bashing but the Star Wars prequels suck ass and it's very dissapointing to Star Wars fans who had reasonable expectations at best. The Matrix is 100 billion times better than SWE1 and so is LOTR-FOTR so no, you are wrong to even bring up those trilogies and compare them to the crap that has been the last 2 SW films. Let's see all 3 SW, Matrix and LOTR films before we compare trilogies but as for 1st installments, Star Wars is so badly inferior it's laughable to even try to compare those 3 films. Why should we be grateful that Lucas ruined his legacy by making shitty Star Wars prequels? These films are lame. But they're better than ID4,Godzilla, Armegeddon, Buttman and Buttboy,and anything starring Tom cruise so they must be good...whatever...May the force be with you..$$$$
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Nov 17, 2002 9:52:31 PM CST
I know exactly why Star Wars is not good anymore! Please read if
by iggmcmc
First of all Star Wars is science fiction and many think Lucas and his creative team somehow thinks the story and design right off the top of their heads. This assumption is wrong because the Queen's ship is a direct copy of the SR-71 that is now in retirement. As a result the politics and psychology of the characters are consistent. With the introduction of the mass-producing empire everything becomes like a block without any curves Tie Fighter or the JSF Fighters. They are cheaper to build, don't go as fast, and they are supposed to be strong by the immensity of their sheer numbers. Star Wars is no longer any good because even though its politics and psychology are consistent it is no longer worth its issue inside the contemporary world. Yes the "clone" issue may be pressing but the Galactic Senate allows the clones to get made and used. It would have been far more familiar to our ideologies today if the clones were put on hold and onto the reserve for a later judgement. The main reason why Star Wars has such a big fan base is because all of the parents whom watched Star Wars as little kids has made watching Star Wars the new family event but as you see that does nothing in the sense of Star Wars trying to get its messages across. Furthermore its messages are old. They were intended for the audiences of 20 some odd years ago. It was right after the Vietnam War and several other crises and people were happy to see triumph on the silver screen. However we are living in the days of crap, political turmoil, and blah blah, 911 and we are tired of seeing explosions and a trilogy going into deep crap. What we need to see is some truly happy insights of Star Wars rather than Anakin is going to be Darth Vader.
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Dude that's so deep! Actually, not really... the prequels just plain suck-the current political and physcological environment in America has nothing to do with the rejection of the SW prequels-they just suck. Period. the ship designs are not the reason these films are uninteresting but they are not as athsethically interesting as the classic trilogy ships. But that's such a minor detail... These films are are very poorly written and acted save for a Mcgregor, Mcdiamriod.The director, who once said a "special effect without a story is pretty boring", has traded his ethic for good story telling for eye candy and flash. His 2 SW prequels are superficial and boring.These films are bitterly dissapointing because the first trilogy was so special but then again GL fucked up Indy with that awful "last crusade" too...
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think about it..the Empire was doomed from the get go! The major advantage that they had was more resources and that they could mass produce..but then they waste it by manufacturing TIE fighers that can't go into hyperspace and need special hanger bays to store them in, Walkers that can be tripped up by wrapping dental floss around the legs, and near sighted stormtroopers.."an entire legion of my best troops"was defeated by a bunch of teddy bears..seeesh
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Nov 17, 2002 10:44:19 PM CST
We're Not Gonna Make It "Spoiler-Free", Are We? OR... "I'm Sorry
by jollydwarf
"...I'd never let them hurt you, I didn't mean to let you die, so tonight, I'm cleanin' out the desert." Anakin is kind of the anti-Em, ain't he? But anyways, in about 6-9 months, most of this semi-pointless speculation will subside, because storyboards and piecemeal info are going to leak from Sydney and wherever else they're shooting. It's strange (well, maybe not STRANGE), but I kinda believe the guy who called Episode III "The Sinister Hand". Okay, MAYBE NOT THAT TITLE, but I do believe that our collective "best guess" is about TWENTY TIMES BETTER than what we'll see on the screen in May '05. Then in November of that year, we'll drown our sorrows with Jagermeister or Cuervo while listening to smug G-Lu explaining on the DVD commentary track how Palpatine being the same guy as Sidious demonstrated his immense power. Not explaining HOW he concealed his identity, just kind of writing it off and chuckling as we move to the next CGI matte painting. I do suspect we'll get one of TWO POSSIBLE FILMS: 1.)the overly elaborate revelation of all of the deception leading to the Emperor/"emporer"'s rise or 2.)a shoddy Prequel wrap-up, masked by plenty of pointless fly-by shots of classic trilogy vehicles. Is Sidious really Triumph the Comic Insulting dog? As in his puppeteer? Hey, that would explain A LOT....
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Nov 17, 2002 10:59:51 PM CST
Oh Yeah, Almost Forgot OR... "No, You Can't Have The Jango!"
by jollydwarf
"Oh, please, Jango, please...Jan-go!" Did you guys notice the quick look of shock from Mace and Dooku when Windu lops off his dome? Another piece of evidence towards more treachery. That's just speculation. What I definitely heard on the DVD was someone (George?) stating that Jango bumps his head entering the Slave I on Kamino, a la the Stormtrooper bumping his head in the Death Star. The joke was supposedly to obviously imply that the troopers are Jango clones because the trait got passed on. Maybe that means DNA by way of Boba, but it doesn't sound like Uncle Palp sternly pointing from holoposters, with the "We Will Recruit You!" phrase above him. Maybe Boba will change his name in Episode III so all factions in the universe can pound on his Kamino apartment door, chanting "Jango!" and clutching exotic Naboo floral bouqets. Maybe the new Jango won't need jetpack assistance to be a little 'light in the loafers'. Sample Clone Wars cartoon dialogue: JEDI MASTER FO-LI: Anakin, son, if you don't get focused and forget about that girl, you're gonna end up living in a gunship, DOWN BY THE RIVER!!
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...is nothing more than George Lucas' Vietnam Fantasy. C'mon...fucking rocks and spears versus lazer blasters and those walking thing-a-ma-fucks. Oh yeah...just with second-rate muppets. I'll stick to Indiana Jones, thanks. And I mean the original triliogy. Not this "Indiana Jones And The Kindey Stones of Death" they're plannin' on crankin' out...
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Nov 18, 2002 1:30:38 AM CST
"who da man? Yoda man!"-a DVD that has a selling point predicate
by tarl_cabot
Must mean Episode II sucks and the only croud pleasing scene is being milked to sell the DVD. Sad. George Lucas has lost the gift...
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The Matrix truly is the new Star Wars.
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Hey George Lucas! You probably dont read these but somewhere one of your underpaid overworked lackies does. Anyway, you will hear the message loud and clear....." Bring your ass to the local video store, buy the Fellowship of the Ring special 4 or 5 disc set.Now, dont bother watching the movie...skip to the last 2 discs and watch the documentaries on how they made their film! Watch all the love and dedication poured into that film and see how a great picture is made!And, oh yeah, they used minatures as well as digital enhancements. Because, my god man!, somewhere along the way you fell off the damn horse!! Episode III needs to be a best picture nominee if not a winner to get the hearts back from your original fans!!! Sorry...had to vent....bye
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...The problem isn't with your DVD or player, but with your computer. Here's what you gotta' do: Go into DOS, and at the "C" prompt, type this "format:c" hee-hee.
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Nov 18, 2002 4:44:52 AM CST
yeah, those who say its dead go watch Jason X or Halloween for a
by tall_boy
and please, just shut the fuck up, ok?
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Its more Undead. Someone shoot it in the head, please. Its the only way to kill those bastards.
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Nov 18, 2002 8:47:19 AM CST
I think it's telling that SW trolls insist on invading talkbacks
by minderbinder
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I know this will sound ultra geeky...but if you are watching the DVD and pause the movie right when Mace Windu de-caps ole Jango you can step foward slowly and see the shadow of Jango's severed head coming out of the helmet right before it hits the ground!!!This explains the empty helmet that little Boba picks up later in the movie!!!..........peace
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....who bought $80 million dollars worth of Episode II DVD's last week?
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Truly I am and I must bitchslap your way back to the past because with your misinformation you are ruining the future. What is up with this??? "But there are only few thousand clone troopers left, the majority of them having been killed during the war. Since the Kaminoeans don't have any more of Jango Fett's fresh genetic material, and since they don't want to make an inferior copy (a clone of a clone usually has several defects), Palpatine begins to recrute millions of ordinary people from the general population to become the first Stormtroopers." No no no no no no no no! the Kaminoeans have not made Boba Fett any more docile nor tampered with his growth and therefore he is the natural and exact replica should he ever grow up to the same age as his dad Jango Fett. The Kaminoeans use his genetic material after Jango Fett dies and can continue to use his genetic material. A clone of a clone has several defects after thousands of copies. Can you imagine what Jango must have felt like if they had to keep him at the facilities for just about every other clone sample? He'd want another clone of himself with complete enhancements doing his bounty hunting jobs for him.
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WOW! What a manly man, you are. How impressive. And totally true, as well, I bet. I completely believe you.
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That is the best info of anything. He knows how to make original, intelligent action cartoons as is evident in the masterpiece Samurai Jack. The designs could be a little more realistic than in Jack, but the animation style should be very similar. Jack looks like a painting come to life, and Star Wars deserves that kind of class. If this show happens it could be incredible.
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THAT was one of the funniest things i've read in a talkback in quite some time. Thanks for the laugh, retard. You know someone is a loser if he has to list the number of women he's had (in a movie talkback forum). There's this generally held opinion that talkbackers are geeks who do nothing but visit this site. Here's a newsflash: most talkbackers do have girlfriends, or are married, they just like discussing (or arguing about) movies. So please refrain from trying to prove yourself with idiotic comments.
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...are what I was going to the Ren. fest in dude. Sorry to disappoint. And contrary to what ya' think...she was actually pretty cute! Just, you know...hairy...in places...that...don't...need...it. Shaved is the way to be. Hands down.
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...I almost forgot to mention that this has been a hands-down-balls-to-the-wall goddam funny talkback! I've not laughed like this since BuzzMaverick's Arnuld impressions...carry on...
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I'm not sure and I've just discovered that my friend just took a college English course and he was lectured on how Tolkein might be racist or simply his Lord of the Rings can be viewed as racist material. My friend told me that the professor showed him how to look at the bigger picture of ethnicity within literary works. Here is the logic as follows. Gandalf and the rest of the fellowship are all closely related to the mythical heritage of the Norse or Celtic religions and there was no room in his epic for lets say any French people (for the sake of argument). When we see this in the context of history, and hence "Middle Earth" we are convinced that there were no other peoples existing on Earth other than Celtic or Norse white men. The other argument is a little contrived. It supposes that orcs or even hobbits because of their severe alterations apart from being humans that this is suggestive of prejudice in general. But I concurr with my friend in that the first argument, that Tolkein may have excluded other heritages on purpose (or rather having tremendous ignorance for the histories of the Earth) may lend itself to a racist or supremacist point of view within Lord of the Rings.
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Just wanted to say thanks for inputting. As for the Star Wars cartoons that's not a good judgement call. Commercial-wise Lucas has not been as successful in the television industry and so he should take the time to hurry up finishing his prequel trilogy. Then later on he can do cartoons but on another subject. I've had enough of Star Wars for a lifetime...and its left a bad taste in my mouth already.
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...kinda' like the ending to Episode II. Dracula Fights A Muppet. Dracula Flees. Muppet has convo with Shaft. Shaft says something poetic. No talent pretty boy marries Monotone cute-chic. That George Lucas...what a wild & crazy guy...
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...May this talkback never end! HOOOAAAHH!
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Nov 19, 2002 4:02:20 PM CST
OK, so I REALY DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK that you're watching the
by tall_boy
so just shut the hell up, ok?
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Hey, hamill does voice over work right? Maybe he can finally be involved with star wars again. HE'S a guy with nothing better to do!
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That in the commentary for Episode II Lucas states that the dark side is stronger than the light side of the Force? Doesn't this negate what Yoda said in TESB? Watch the funeral scene for Anakin's mom with the commentary on. Is Lucas growing senile??? L8r
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Sorry, even to you Meatcleaver...but Lucas has lost his motherfucking mind. Where's my prequel to American Graffiti?
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