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Hello believers in the force, Harry here... Well, since posting this story, some interesting things have happened. I've heard stories about Cartoon Network execs migrating north from Hollywood to LucasLand, hush hush whispers around the toony halls that this is indeed happening. The word I'm hearing is that the show will be about the 3 year gap between the last film and the next film, as the rumor has it that the next film begins with the last major battle of the Clone Wars... The show would purportedly show us the rest. Now TheForce.Net has been doing some confirming of their own, and have found that indeed AICN, Me and my source were dead on correct. HOWEVER, they found out that in addition, LucasFilm independently and on their own have created a full pilot internally!!! That pilot could only come from either ILM or LucasArts game division... I'm betting ILM. Is it possible that we'll be seeing a high grade CG animated series from the wizards of Marin County? We'll have to wait for announcements - or the next installment of leaks to TheForce.Net or myself or one of the other cybersnoops online! Exciting... Isn't this?

Hey folks, Harry here... As always my spies in Lucasfilm, well... pretty much they kickass. I love em, because as always they provide me with the ability to see and hear things far before the average person. So much so at times that the news seems made up, but in reality... It's just out there waiting for the rotation of the earth to pass round the sun enough times to catch up to the news.

This came from a source that I ABSOLUTELY TRUST, he/she/it has been providing news to AICN for years out of Lucasfilm - and he/she/it doesn't drop the ball. I'm told that very very few people know the following bit of info, so getting confirmation on it will most likely be a bitch, but since this sort doesn't tickle the jewels without following through, I'm going with it.

There have been top secret meetings between Lucasfilm and Cartoon Network, and they are in ADVANCE DISCUSSIONS to do an immense animated series called CLONE WARS. The time frame is still being discussed as either starting the year before Episode 3 hits theaters, or the Summer of Episode 3. Lucas is negotiating for a huge 50-60 episode order!!!

I just hope that they get smart and get some of the talent that worked on DROIDS a billion years ago that has evolved into somebody super great at the Animated Series... How cool would it be if they brought on Paul Dini to be a Writer/Producer for this? Can you fucking imagine? Ok, that's me being a fanboy, but dammit, nobody writes better toons on TV! NOBODY! This news will most likely be denied till Lucasfilm and Cartoon Network are ready to Announce, but you heard it here first!

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  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:08 p.m. CST

    This Is Wonderful....

    by EricAlan69 long as it pans out, and Harry isn't hallucinating, of course. Bring on the animated Clone War. // e.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Kinda Cool

    by Darth Melkor

    Perhaps Episode 3 won't be the end of Star Wars. It can live on in books and this way. At least a show about the Clone Wars has the potential to be cool... unlike a certain other Lucasfilm cartoon series about furry inhabitants of Endor.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Rouge Squadron

    by Cassius Clay

    Whatever happened to the Classic Era Rouge Squadron rumor? That would have been cool. 50-60 episodes in 2 years? That will be tough to pull off. Looks like plenty of jobs on the horizon if you live in Korea...

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:12 p.m. CST

    JAR JAR RACERS forever!

    by SnapT

    I want a cartoon Jar Jar racing people in his pod NOW. Jar Jar Binks = BEST POD RACER EVER.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Now this is grand.

    by Nordling

    Will Jedi be in it? Our heroes, Anakin, Obi-Wan, Yoda, et al? CGI? 2-D? Rotoscoping? Pencil and paper? Fucking crayon? The mind boggles. Now, I can't see anyone complaining about this. This could open up some serious characterization and make the fall of Anakin much more interesting. I'm looking forward to this.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Droids ruled!

    by JacksonsBane

    Wish it came back on da TV.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:19 p.m. CST

    This sounds great!!

    by Counterpunch

    For me to poop on! If this happens, I hope this isn't some watered down, kiddie version of a Star Wars series. I want something that truely kicks my ass and takes no names, in animation. CN is doing one heck of a job with getting some mature properties like JLA and some heavy anime stuff. So until i start seeing some more info on this series, i will save my enthusiasm for Ep 3. "who shot who in the what now?"

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:21 p.m. CST

    who da man? yo da man! yoda da man!

    by aphekqs

    meh. it might be cool, but it'll probably suck, just like the ewoks animated series.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Deep, easy breaths...

    by MCVamp

    A successful Clone Wars cartoon might open up the possibilities of post-Jedi stories as well. Man, done properly, Clone Wars would rule ass. All asses. Even yours, over there. Hell, maybe ILM will do it as an all-CGI series. Yeah right. But as long as there are no annoying kids thrown in as regulars and the animation is better than the cookie-cutter norm of current kid's cartoons, it'll rock. Maybe if it was done in the style of SPAWN or THE MAXX.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:31 p.m. CST

    No offense Counterpunch, but...

    by GenericGeek

    ...Star Wars IS a watered down, kiddie version of Star Wars. As will be this cartoon, I'm afraid. In fact, I'm sure you can summarize it in two words: Toy Commercial.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:32 p.m. CST

    I pray to god this means more badass yoda fighting


    I jizzed my pants when i saw this my god this is to cool for words.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Please use 2-D cell animation mixed with CGI.

    by Declan_Swartz

    I hate modern 2-D cartoons with cell-less animation. The colors are so drab compared traditinal paints. Cell animation with CGI elements can look fine though. Just not all CGI, unless it is all 3-D.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:47 p.m. CST

    adult swim jedi style

    by kiimo

    Can you imagine how cool Clone Wars would be done in the style of Cowboy Beebop? THAT would be nice. And really, kinda how I want Star Wars to be anyway.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Star Wars belongs on Cartoon Network

    by fun guy

    It's all animated nowadays anyway. They should just release Episode 3 as a TV movie for Cartoon Network.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:49 p.m. CST

    I think its a great idea if.......

    by inkymae

    Lucas gets someone like Paul Dini and Bruce Timm involved and let them handle everything. Also, it needs to have Obi-wan, Anakin, Yoda, Mace-Windu etc in the thing. I'm afraid Lucas will be afraid of the animators destroying his precious mythology he will insist on having the main characters be other Jedi that we have never seen before. who were those idiots that owned 3P0 and R2 in "droids" anyway? I think they may have been the replacement Duke brothers from Hazard county.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:51 p.m. CST

    by kiimo

    They keep changing the lineup of Adult Swim anyway.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 6:53 p.m. CST

    sounds great

    by talbuckin

    certainly it doesw sounds great. I hope they do it right, knowing Lucas likes anime. I can

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Could be good, could suck JarJar's ass...

    by RenoNevada2000

    Definitely a wait and see kinda deal... I know that ILM has been itching to get into CG Animation a la PIXAR, etc ever since their FRANKENSTEIN project at Universal was shot down a few years back. Perhaps they might use this as a way of getting their foot in the water?

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:10 p.m. CST


    by JBiddle

    I swear I could smell Harry creaming his pants all the way over here in Canada. Take a fucking pill, guy, before your heart explodes.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Most of Episode 2 was a cartoon so this is fitting!

    by IAmLegolas

    *pats himself on the back for that witty remark*

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Clown Wars

    by Tony Mike Hall

    what a farce this will be. i guess lucas has to find a way to maintain his lifestyle once he's done with the third installment. and targeting kids is definitely the way to go - they won't be able to tell the difference between a well-told story and pile of shit marketing extravanganza. Everything brown!

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:26 p.m. CST

    What they SHOULD do to make this great.

    by Vorkin

    is give this show to mainframe entertainment, the makers of ReBoot, Shadow Raiders/War Planets, and Beast Wars. Mainframe has always made the best CG TV shows. Their writing and stories rule, and aren't watered down for the kiddies much at all.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Excitement building...

    by Toonimator

    ...but it must NOT BE totally 3D. We don't need creepy Max Steel versions of Obi-Wan and Anakin running around. We DO need some nicely styled 2D versions of these guys. While I'd love to have Yoda & Mace as recurring (often!) characters, with much Jedi battling, Anakin & Obi-Wan would be too restricted as main characters. No peril for them really, and Anakin would probably display too much of the brash Anakin we got so little of in Ep 2 (ie, the FUN Anakin), and not much of the whiny, disturbed, and oh-so-obviously teetering on the edge of Dark & Light that he was at the end of Ep 2. His relationship with Padme wouldn't be much fun, as there's no relationship building, they're already married! No, they'll probably focus on another Jedi, perhaps a council member (NOT KI-ADI-MUNDI! Got sick of him in the comic), and that Jedi Master's Padawan. One of them will be more responsible than the other. One of the main characters will be female, and they'll either have a Jedi-Jedi romantic angle or toss in a Han Solo-like rogue (with a ship!) to be a sidekick, taking the Jedi to the site of the next battle, or as a potential romantic interest for another character. Droids'll be there, hopefully not 3PO and R2 (just guest-spots, even if frequent, along with Anakin & Obi-Wan). Mace & Yoda will probably turn up more frequently as consultants and for mucho Yoda-with-the-Force action. Bad guys will be tough, unless they introduce random Dark Jedi (or, more likely, ONE new non-Sith Dark Jedi, failed student of the main character). Dooku and Sidious will be shadowy and not directly confrontational, the Dr. Claws of the series. Ships & the like, maybe even droids, should be CGed and toon-shaded. Plenty of space battles, Jedi Starfighters & all (Ep 2 was sorely lacking in that! So was Ep 1, really, the battle w/ the Control Ship was pretty dull). But they do need new characters as protagonists, so stuff can happen to them. Relationships, temptations to the Dark Side, death even. I'd love a good Rogue Squadron series, but it'd be severely lacking in the Force. All we'd get is Corran Horn having some intuitions and finding out his origins really, not a big presence. Well, I won't hold my breath for this Star Wars animated series, but I'll keep track of it with great interest!

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Birds of Prey? Frakazoid? Batman Beyond? CLERKS THE ANIMATED SER

    by chuckrussel

    'nuff said!

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:35 p.m. CST

    space ghost

    by WinSToN SMITHs

    that's pretty cool.. star wars always seemed like a really good cartoon made into real life. which i think is why i like it. it reminds me so damn much of the old space ghost.. the villains all sitting around the chair plotting, the lame lines during battle, the way it's not supposed to be taken seriously at all. a million other things. and yeah i think the best possible approach would be if ILM did it in cell style CGI type stuff.. as long as they don't just go with this shitty new action animation style like justice league.. i'd rather it be like that christmas special cartoon with boba fett. the people were terrible but the spacehips looked damned nice. oh, an anime would be good too but maybe kinda lame. of course there's a huge possibility they'll just fuck it up, but even if that happens i know i'll at least catch the pilot ep. not because i'm a huge fan but just because i have no life and anything carrying the slightest hype sucks me in because there's nothing else to keep me going. i'm not being cynical.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:39 p.m. CST

    I think this is a great idea

    by laguna_loire

    Just that once-again it shouldn't be printed here. It makes me laugh how many people chide Star Wars now but they secretly have a good wank at home over their DVD of Episode II!! Damn!! I wish Jay and Silent Bob were here right now!! I do think that this has the potential to be damn good.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:42 p.m. CST

    kicking ass

    by Master T-MACK

    Good, Lucas done right. This is the perfect thing to not only pass the time, but get people interested and pumped for the SWIII. The series shouldn't be anime...NO WAY!...but how they gonna get the voices? It is Star Wars, so they'd keep tyhe same voices I believe. It's be kicking ass to here Ewan do voice-over!

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Will this be considered CARTOON? uh, yeah...

    by Tony Mike Hall

    Can cartoons be made part of the official, Lucas-sanctioned Star Wars Universe? I just don't know - we may need to have a meeting about this. In the meantime, I would like each of you to submit an essay on the inter-relation between potential Star Wars cartoons and the rest of the Star Wars legitimate expanded universe, including novels, novellas, filmstrips, 2-XL 8 track tapes, and Burger King glasses. Will they be making action figures of the new cartoon characters? Will they be part of the canonized universe? Will I be able to afford them? So many questions...

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Please, let it be anime-style...

    by Human Tornado

    ... and please! let Kia Asamya or Hisao Tamaki be in charge of character design...

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Anyone think this will actually work?

    by MyNameDoesn'tFit

    Hopefully Lucas will write all the scripts himself! Oh, that's right, you can't see me rolling my eyes.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:06 p.m. CST

    No sense getting excited over it right now

    by TimBenzedrine

    It'll be 2-3 years before we see anything. May as well relax everyone, there's plenty of stuff out there to enjoy until then.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:22 p.m. CST

    What the hell was up with that shiny Ewok rock

    by chickenmonkey

    that looked like a glowing yin-yang bar of Tone soap? I never got that. As for Clone Wars, I dread animated Jar Jar, more than that fucked-up gerbil they had in Punky Brewster's Animated adventures. I fear this project will soon go the way of animated Rubik and Q-Bert. All licensing, no innovation. *I* think Adult Swim would be better served re-airing Pee-Wee's Playhouse. Anybody got any weed?

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:27 p.m. CST


    by Mcfarlane

    if anything from uncle george should get animated, it should be from the mind of Kevin Rubio. He is the guy responsible for TROOPS... however... anyone who reads dark horse comics will know of his genius for STAR WARS comedy with classics such as A DEATH STAR IS BORN, FORCE FICTION and the TAG AND BINK series and THE REVENGE OF TAG AND BINK. Now these babies deserve to be animated... even if they are just a hidden easter egg on a DVD of a DROIDS Reissue or as a LUCASFILM bonus on an official authorised release of TROOPS.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Okay, I'm a big Dini/Timm fan...

    by enigmainyourhead

    ... but why the hell would anyone want them to work on it? Timm's style is getting old, we've already seen 4 series in his style. I'd be much happier to see it done similar to the X-Men Evolution style. Dat's some goood stuff. Even the new He-Man seems pretty fresh looking compared to Timmness

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:51 p.m. CST

    by Saviano

    So if the title of the cartoon is to be "Clone Wars", does that mean that it will actually show the Clone Wars? And if the show the Clone War in the cartoon, what possibly could EpIII be about? I hate Lucas. bastard.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Send in the Clones

    by The Raven

    I've waited 25 years for an incontinuity Star Wars on-goings series. Let's hope Obi-Wan,k Anakin, and Amidala have a larger presence than Luke, Han and, Leia did in Droids.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Could be decent as long as it's not 'hip' or 'edgy'

    by KONG33

    like, no 'streamlined' Portman outfit. No cocky/sassy kid voice for Anakin... no dumb droid jokes. Cool, hideous, maybe even frightening monsters...resembling the EMPIRE... Great slack animation (that'll never happen), something genuinely fun (with WATTO!). You know, it's funny how the guys who made the original SUPERMAN cartoons were working that hard just to make an episode they figured would soon be forgotten. Today, animators KNOW the show will probably last for some time, but take nowhere near the time to perfect it. I wonder what could be interesting or fun about this show - after seeing the movie.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Clone Wars in real time! *Spoiler*

    by AttackingClone

    I saw at TF.N that the clone wars are happening in real time. ie. they are happening right now, they go for the 3 years between Eps 2 + 3. And as we know they finish at the beginning of Ep3. I hope most of it is CG stuff (watching beast wars Series 3 yesterday makes me wonder how much further its come in 3 years). I guess the characters will have to be hand drawn. Also if this does happen (which i bloody well hope it does) it better be an ongoing story line, ie. dragonball z, not a whole story and different baddy each half hour. This could be damn good and keep me drooling till the movie comes out. Hopefully it'll start maybe a year before Ep3 (A Sith Revealed) comes out, and not just a few weeks before.

  • He once said his dream would be to make a star wars cartoon, could happen now.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 9:42 p.m. CST

    This is a plant....

    by DJLetterbox

    To "smoke out" Harry's source at Lucasfilms.....just wait and see ....oh and Shrub should be so proud I used his expression Letterbox

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 10:09 p.m. CST MessageBoard moderators get FREE AOTC DVDs from Jos

    by DarthSapient

    You ever been to's messageboards the aka "The JC"? They are fucking a GHEY. I should know, I am a moderator there and I smoked a lot of cock to get my mod position. It works like this... TFN's forum moderators (who hate AICN by the way) buy the AOTC DVD. The JC moderators then send their DVD receipts to TFN's Joshua Griffen. Josh then sends the forum moderators cash back. Have you registered at TFN's forums? Register there and I will ban your ass faster than Carter-TFN can hit on a underage girl with a official TFN Ladies Clones TShirt. Show me some love dawgs, Show me some love.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Getting back the people who made 'droids' would be like getting

    by TheGinger Twit

    Mark my words, these cartoons will be state of the art!

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Rouge Squadron?

    by St.Buggering

    Is that the musical version directed by Baz Luhrman? Hey, we've already got Ewan McGregor, we're halfway there.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 10:35 p.m. CST

    I hope this series doesn't have Blue Yoda in it.

    by DarthSapient

    Blue Yoda Society, you should see what we say about you niggs in the JC Mod Squad. Well soon you shall see what we say about you in the JC Mod Squad God damn it people. What, do all you Blue Yoda Society members have Downs Syndrome or some shit? Peace to yo' middle east, my niggs. Peace to yo middle east.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 10:44 p.m. CST


    by JAGUART

    The Jar Jar Binks Adventure Hour.Well George is finally getting his way by getting to play with his kiddie shit like he originally started back in 1999. I'm sure there will be plenty of "robots" dying in those episodes.

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 11:19 p.m. CST

    bwstarwars = worst theme poster ever.

    by Wino-Forever

    You're no chaffro, brother!

  • Nov. 13, 2002, 11:22 p.m. CST

    could go either way

    by midwat

    This is a project that could either be incredibly good or mind-dullingly bad. Will Lucasfilm avoid its visuals-over-story tack as of late? Will it be an attempt to pander to a younger audience, a la Jar Jar Binks? Will the wooden writing that plagued the prequels rear its ugly head? I'll give Lucasfilm the benefit of the doubt for now.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 12:24 a.m. CST

    i feel sorry for that spy

    by jondoejjj

    that spy is about to be given the boot...right now he's probably sweatin' and filling out applications. Harry, be careful with your sources.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Harry's Secret Source is Rick McCallum or George Lucas himself.

    by Regis Travolta

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  • Nov. 14, 2002, 1:40 a.m. CST

    oh please lord george of lucas, no anime, i beg of you

    by MeatCleaverMojo

    i swear to god if i see any jedi with big pointy hair and huge eyes i'll go on a cross country killing spree straight to skywalker ranch. you bastards wanna talk about raping a childhood? anybody been watching the new transformers?? they turned into fucking pokemon. in the armada comic the minicons are a cool idea. in the cartoon it's like you have to "catch em all". i'm fucking sick of anime. the animation is great but japan is just fucking weird, they need to keep their weirdness and their raw fish to themselves. anyway, this has potential to be so good...please george, don't fuck it up, k?

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 1:54 a.m. CST

    Some sketches from awhile ago...

    by Toonimator

    ...silly, but I like 'em.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:36 a.m. CST

    What a..

    by cooper2000

    Crap Idea. Figures Lucas would do this. What a hack, Hope its better than Episode 1 and 2 of course I wont be watching.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 3:47 a.m. CST

    Could be cool...

    by pungaboy

    The beginning of Episode 3 is supposed to show the end of the clone wars - at least this way George could throw in a little more back-story. And maybe he won't have to tie up the million loose ends he has left, all in Episode 3. Maybe they could figure out all that Sipho-dias stuff in the cartoon and just cut to the chase in Ep. 3. I guess the key for this series to be any good, is that it exists within the continuity of the main storyline - that stuff actually HAPPENS and it's not just a bunch of cutesy little side-stories. As for the art-stlye... Some classic GI-Joe animation would probably do the trick. Maybe a couple 3D tricks for holograms and computer displays and stuff. Whatever happens though, I hope it's good.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 4:08 a.m. CST

    An Animated Series From Lucas!!!! YEAH!!

    by The Founder

    This was long over do, I hope it kicks @ss, and please I hope they don't tone it down for the kiddies, it has to be on a league with the Superman, and Batman series, and Batman Beyond.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 4:45 a.m. CST

    It will not be good. Havent we learned! I havent.

    by Jon E Cin

    It will be too kiddy..I want it to be cool and super bad how everyone here would make it..but lucas is will have control which means it will have an awful comic relief side kick character thats probably some lame ass droid named Glo-Glo and we will all hate it and Old ma lucas's response will be..."its for the kids" instead all the kids are gonna watch cowboy bebop instead! Why you say?..because kids think adult themes are cool. remember when you were a kid when star wars wasnt targeted toward 8 year olds, we loved it! somebody tell this to old man lucas. Is it me or has he turned into the unfunny/unhip grandpa at everyones thanksgiving dinner?

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 5:04 a.m. CST

    HOLY @$*#(!! ILM should do the show, ALL CG !!!

    by Darth Siskel III

    Every single frame of Ep2 is a work of art. ILM should do the CloneWars cartoon, and ALL CGI !

  • just listened to the Ep. II commentary and lucas said he always wanted to show the clone wars in action -- with only 2 movies and ep. 3's story kinda leading towards the end of the clone wars (think about it, you can't have the climatic vader/ anakin & all the jedi die & rise of the empire in the middle of it) there's alot of stuff to fill in. I hope this works, but I don't get the freakin cartoon network. dammit.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 7:30 a.m. CST


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  • Nov. 14, 2002, 7:36 a.m. CST


    by Demon Disco

    I agree - if this is true, you couldn't get better than Paul Dini to write the thing. But be warned - that would make this animated series FAR superior to the tragically inept movie prequels that inspired it. Hell, I'd watch jut to see Lucas so grandly upstaged! Clearly, Dini and his crew are much better storytellers than ol' Georgie Boy. But, sadly, somehow I just can't see Lucas relinquishing control to talents far above his own. It would prove once and for all that Lucas himself is the Star Wars universe's greatest enemy.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 7:36 a.m. CST

    Too good to be true!

    by SOCOM242

    I just love Mr. Lucas <insert @$$ kissing sounds> If this gets greenlighted, I won't be able to contain myself. I can't wait!!!

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 8:45 a.m. CST


    by Spyda Mann

    What a slag, I was just finishing writing my third movie on this very subject. Cos' I thought it would be cool to extend the Clone Wars so I wrote a couple of short (ish) films on a platoon of ground troops and how they progress through the war. and look what they go and do... Oh well, so long as it aint that fucking crappy cell animation and they throw a bit of tradition into the series then I'm happy. Or even if the deal falls through with cartoon network (GOD WILLING) and Lucas approaches the dudes who worked on ROUGHNECKS. That would be cool too.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 8:59 a.m. CST

    The comics are doing the Clone wars as well

    by holidill

    Pick up Dark Horse Comics' Star Wars Republic comic. The Clone Wars start in an issue or two.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 9:26 a.m. CST

    This Is What the Clone Wars Needs!!! (If They Don't Fuck It Up,

    by NoCureForFools

    the snippet of the Clone Wars at the end of AOTC was a lot of fun and cool as shit, but it was only a sample. i want full on stories (sorties?), battle campaigns, Seven Jedi guarding a villiage of hapless peasent aliens vs. the robot hordes, i want to see developing tension between Jedi and Clones, i want to see, damn i want to see the sort of full on dramatic space war coolness that only an animated series can give (a live action tv series would be terrible beyond belief i think). hey, maybe, if Lucas is smart, he'll get Paul Dini on board along with Leiji "Star Blazers / Yamato" Matsumoto and the ghost of Kurosawa! heh. well, there's always hope. i just hope this is good, and aimed at the correct target audience -- ages 15 to 35, not ages 2-9... please, Lucas, please! we love you when you don't fuck up! (and forgive you when you do) **** btw, clearly AOTC is a mixed bag of a film, but the DVD rocks. it gives you the power to skip over the pointless bits and fat and get right to the meat, the fun, the good parts of the story. it makes me appreciate the film alot more, although i recognize that the film does suffer from extended bits of exceedingly bad dialouge and wooden performances, the good parts make up for the bad parts, methinks...

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 9:47 a.m. CST

    What a scoop!

    by rev_skarekroe

    Is this from the same source that told you the Millenium Falcon was going to be in Ep. 1? Or the one who said Darth Maul would look like Spike-or from He-Man? Or the one who sent you the names for characters that were all anagrams saying you've been fooled? Or the one who sent in the "make-up" test of an older Obi-Wan? sk

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Done in the style of the new He-Man...

    by CorranHorn

    This could be cool.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 10:11 a.m. CST

    What about all the unresolved issues from EWOKS?

    by MonsterZeroOne

    Like, when is Princess Kneesaa gonna get her freak on with a Wicket and Teebo three-way already?

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 10:18 a.m. CST

    About the Boba Fett bit on the DVD ...

    by MonsterZeroOne

    Isn't it weird that the quality of the old footage from the Star Wars Holiday Special looks like the same shitty bootlegs we've been trading for years? That's aside from the crappy quality of the footage from the original trilogy they used in the documentaries ... it looks like someone just patched in their home VCR tapes for that stuff. Crap crap crap.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Will we FINALLY get the official Origin Story for

    by Trav McGee

    ...Bea Arthur's plucky singing Tatooine bar owner? ("Is that a tear, my friend..?") And I betcha dimes to donuts that Chewbacca's father Itchy plays a pivotal role in the Wars to come...

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Walrus, you crack me up

    by Terry_1978

    I love Shake and, when the movie theatres start showing animated shorts before the movies again, I want Sealab and Aqua Teen shorts to be shown before PG-13 and R movies soooo badly.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Judge Ye Appreciation Society

    by nomadic

    Great idea if it's properly excecuted. Thank the Lord the Judge won't budge! All hail the pose of prose! Here he is weighing in at 400 pounds of pure bull, He's so great, reminds me of Krull. Big up the JUDGE!

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Oh, That Wasn't A Cartoon In The Theaters? OR... Crossing Over

    by jollydwarf

    You mean that wasn't anime that I just watched again on DVD? Hey, as long as there's no "love haiku" shit, I'm down. Any chance of Sidious and Dexter conspiring during sweeps week?

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Great idea wrong time period

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    I think old George would be better served by creating a series in the past. He would have much more freedom to create new stories and characters.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Smart Move on Lucas

    by Starbuck1975

    Lets face it, he wasted an entire movie of storytelling with Phantom Menace...he had to reintroduce all of the characters, where it would have been better had he just jumped into the action and started at AOTC. He doesnt have enough time in EPIII to cover the scope of the Clone Wars, Palpatine seizing power and becoming the Emperor, the fall of the Jedi, the rise of the Empire and Anakin's turn to the dark side. This animated series allows him to flesh out the Clone Wars, and focus on Anakin's turn to the dark side in EPIII. One continuity aspect that bothers me is that Obi Wan states that Owen didnt want Anakin to follow him on some idealistic crusade. To maintain continuity, Anakin has to leave the Jedi order and return to Tatooine. Something happens that causes Obi Wan to return to Tatooine, convincing Anakin to take back up his lightsaber...with a pregnant Padme left behind on Tatooine. I dunno.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Crawfish Jones, you ignorant slut...

    by Sea Bass

    We haven't seen a second of the clone wars yet. All we saw was a rescue operation. Most of the trade federation ships escaped and the villains were all smiling at the end. And how can any war be spoken of as "romantically"? It's a fucking war. You children who want to bash Star Wars because it's your older brothers' movie franchise, and all you have to grow up with are gay wizards need to come up with better reasons for hating it.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Cartoon Network programming

    by Ambrose Chappell

    If CN gets a Clone Wars cartoon it might be likely that they would be able to run reruns of Ewoks and Droids. Now THAT would be doubly cool.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 1:01 p.m. CST


    by thej762000

    I keep thinking about how I'd like my favorite animated series of all time, ROBOTECH, to get turned into a live-action one of my favorite live-action movies(EII was live-action, wasn't it?) gets turned into a damn cartoon. Farg.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Great news!

    by Andel Crodo

    Perhaps now the prequels will be done right.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Star Wars is McDonalds

    by WeedyMcSmokey

    I just think I didn't see it when I was younger - the genius of this franchise is in marketing - not product. I don't necessarily feel cheated, because the originals are still great flicks - but I do think the problem lies in the fact that the originals spoke of the past; these huge events that seemed so much larger then the characters - giving it the mythical epic quality that an oral history, a story possesses- and now the task to actually show these events reveals it to be kind of hollow and rote. Now we have Clone Wars cartoons and Who's the Man? Yo-da man! It's just dissapointing - the personal stories of the characters seem kind of secondary to a chain of events that eventually lead us to part 4. Its just too fatalistic.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:27 p.m. CST,3699,2456970,00.h

    by Respect The Cock

    A Clone wars cartoon?!? Wow, that's great news...FOR ME TO POOP ON!!! (cut & paste the link)

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Too Cartoony?

    by GhostPoet

    I pray they don't go for the saturday morning cartoon style.(ie...people jumping out of their vehicles before they explode) It better at least keep to the seriousness of the movies.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:38 p.m. CST

    DVD results in

    by Darth Melkor

    Get this. The AOTC DVD sold 4 million copies on Tuesday. The LOTR Extended sold 1 million. I love them both but love SW more so I'm excited about this ass whipping.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:44 p.m. CST

    DVD results update

    by Darth Melkor

    I've been informed that no a million copies of the LOTR ED weren't sold. That's how many were shipped, not moved. My bad. Supposedly New Line shipped only 1 million copies of LOTR. Fox did 15 million of AOTC, and Columbia did 26 million of Spider-man. Monsters Inc. is the biggest release ever with like 27 million.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:52 p.m. CST

    more money for emperor Lucas

    by Dragonfire

    I didn't think much of the droids series, or the ewok series, but this one will probably be along the same lines anyway if it's true. It's so hard to feel enthusiastic about anything star wars related these days.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:54 p.m. CST

    I'm not kidding when I tell you...

    by ThatKindOfDay

    ...That this will be the WORST kick in the face, bag over the head, stomp on the groin by George Lucas EVER. For all of you who hated Jar Jar, wait until he unleashes a "cute" NEW alien character for you to chew on. And if he DOES use popular characters (Obi, Anakin, Mace, Yoda), then what could the storyline POSSIBLY call for? An adventure PER week. Every week, the heroes go to a planet, fuck things up Jedi-style, leave. Insert cute teenage alien character wherever, insert something mystical/scary about Yoda's past to frighten and freak all SW fans out. Also, insert more Anakin going bad garbage. OH, and let's not forget some "cool" Jedi that they'll probably be working with. You know, so they can do like in the old X-Men cartoon, use 'em for a week, then lose 'em. (Nightcrawler, Colossus, Banshee). In my opinion, I'd like it to be a late-night cartoon, on Cartoon Network, wherever, doesn't matter, and it SHOULD BE ABOUT the WAR. It should be about the massive ARMIES of Fascistic "Storm Trooper" cats marching through planet after planet, establishing rule and conquering whatever is in their way. Maybe even base it after one GROUP or UNIT of the Clone Troops. Get some good voicework, and stay away from "characters", except maybe a "leader" of some kind. Use some good morality plays, have the Clone Troopers question their lives, it'll be great. And have the finale be the end of the war, and it'll lead into the piece of shit that's destined to be EP.3. But oh well...I can always dream. Ciao.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Absolutely! Mark Hamill!

    by the boom

    I totally agree. Get Mark Hamill to do some of the Voice work. His Joker on BTAS was outstanding. And it would be a very cool move to have him back on the ranch, so to speak.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 3:02 p.m. CST


    by WoodyStiffer

    i stopped watching cartoons like these when i was 13. I just don't see how adults can get so revved up about a cartoon version of star wars.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 3:03 p.m. CST

    What Has To Happen OR... What Should Happen

    by jollydwarf

    You know, if Episode III is (essentially) everything that it needs to be, then it'll be at least 3 hours long with no less than a PG-13 rating. Why? Well, I'm getting to that. But I think that it's safe to say that Georgie Porgie is going to cut, compromise, and consolidate so that he gets his 135 minute film with a straight-up endangered species list "PG" rating. And "if you follow that to conclusion" then you know that the LAST SW MOVIE EVER!!! will be in a lot of ways the biggest letdown of them all. First, let's look at what HAS TO HAPPEN. The Clone Wars have to end (rumored to happen in Reel 1, a la the battle of Hoth), Anakin must duel Obi-Wan and become the mechanized Vader, the Jedi must be eradicated (wipe them out...all of them), Yoda must get to Dagobah, Dooku must be whacked, the Rebellion must be at least initially formed, the twins must be born and at least en route to their surrogate families, Obi-Wan's disappearing "death" trick must be explained (of course G-Lu could be lying), the droids have to be passed off to someone (memory wipe), the clone-stormtrooper transition must take place, and Darth Sidious must seize control unequivocably and become the Emperor. And I probably missed a couple items. Now, what SHOULD HAPPEN. A Sith expository scene, or a Sith-Jedi flashback. Obi Wan's apparent knowledge of Corellian freighters and/or Chewbacca. How Mon Mothma comes into the Rebellion. How the Mon Calamari become a key race in the Rebellion. Why the Tuskens abducted Shmi. The introduction of the Star Destroyers, Ties, X-Wings, etc. Grand Moff Tarkin's introduction. What happens to Boba Fett and where he gets HIS distinctive costume. The raising of the Palpatine statue. Vader being shown horribly disfigured/burnt/whatever. The fate of Padme and JarJar (even if they live). What's up with the tree on Dagobah? A sequence on Alderaan. The disbanding of the secessionists. Vader's primary digs or star destroyer. I could go on. But for now, I won't. The point is that no matter who you are, you're not going to get anything close to the movie you want. Between some poor casting and a vast narrative arc, Lucas has painted his franchise into a corner. Plus, you know that he's got to sucker y'all with tons more "Expanded Universe" literature. Why blow the whole load on the big screen?

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 3:41 p.m. CST


    by Toonimator

    ...cartoons can be just as compelling and enjoyable as any live-action, if given the chance. You stopped watching cartoons at 13? How sad for you. Another misguided soul believing the American/Disney illusion that animation is for kids. Or maybe you just didn't like Batman:TAS? Look at Canada, Europe, Japan... they'd flip over something like this, because in any of those places (well, most likely Japan), a series like Clone Wars would be treated well. Jar Jar might be a goofy sidekick in it, but he wouldn't be an Orko. They'd make it for the millions of ADULT fans as well, so it wouldn't be GIJoe where nobody gets shot, or even Samurai Jack where the only baddies that "die" are machines. There'd be conflict with consequences. Maybe CN & Lucas will give that a try, make a show more suited to fans older than age 5, and not insult anyone's intelligence with lots of flash and no substance. After all, they've already done the "flashy without substance" bit in the last 2 films!

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Here's what I think...

    by screenplaywriter

    Sure, it's a good idea, but why not make a cartoon movie just about the famed "Clone Wars" instead of an animated series that'll only last a year, or 2. I mean sure everybody would love to see this, but don't hand over the thing to "Samauri Jack" animators because they suck at drawing and don't hand over to people who just can't do normal cartooning, hand over the animating to "The Justice League" people and hand over the storylines to people who won't screw it up and make it look shabby. And if this is going to be about the "Clone Wars" they're better be clones dying, Jedi dying, and droids dying because if it's war than they should make the show at least TVPG

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Oh, And Another Thing... OR... The One Thing I Don't Want To Hea

    by jollydwarf

    While this would be at the very least a passable diversion until the LAST STAR WARS MOVIE EVER!!! (maybe), I don't want to be in the theater for Episode III and when some major plot point transpires and is only cursorily explained, someone explains to their friend "Oh yeah. You didn't understand why that happened? Well, it was in the cartoon..." Make this cartoon supplimentary and optional, not Episode 2.5 and required viewing. The movies should work on their own. There goes my idealism again.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Bring it!!

    by WhiskeyRiver

    I just hope there's a major part for Jorge Casul, because I was just so taken with his action figure and was hoping they'd get around to telling his story at last.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Screenplaywriter, broaden your mind.

    by Toonimator

    If there's one thing Samurai Jack artists can do, it's DRAW!! Ever heard of style? Design? Yeesh. Though a Star Wars cartoon in THAT style, probably wouldn't go over too well with your average viewer who knows zip about good design, let alone appreciates it. As nifty as it'd be to see a Timm/Murakami Star Wars (after seeing Timm's few published SW pieces, and Murakami's thumb-Chewbacca in Star Wars Tales), I wouldn't want the Justice League team on it. The house they've got animating it does an uneven job at best, and the writing's not quite there, either... though lately, Star Wars hasn't been about good writing. I don't know all the differences there were in the whole writing/animation team between Justice League & Batman Beyond, but the BB team had it together. The stories were tighter, there was actual character development, and the animation was executed with a lot more authority & style. Now, maybe if Genndy, Bruce, and Glen all teamed up on the design of the show... hmmm. Could be interesting!

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Idealistic Crusades

    by Starbuck1975

    The commentary between Owen and Luke in EPIV, and the comment made by Obi Wan to look about his father, create a backstory in which Owen and Anakin had some kind of relationship as brothers. Given the events of EPII, Owen has no bond with Anakin, nor would he give a rats ass if Anakin followed Obi Wan on some idealistic crusade or not. Why would Owen agree to raise Luke unless the tragedy of Anakin's fall created the obligation for him to do so. Without Anakin and Owen developing a tighter bond, the continuity gets farked. But then again, it is already screwed in so many ways, I guess it doesnt really matter.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 5:47 p.m. CST

    well Georgie sure could do more to make this franchise a franchi

    by phasmatrope

    If you think about it, it's little wonder how all these people, casual fans and hardcore fans alike, can trash the recent "Star Wars" movies for Jar-Jar this and Jango Jr. that when that motherfucker waits 3-20 years per film. I mean, think of the wealth of second & third-party material that's been created about the "Star Wars" franchise. You've got the books, the video games, the Dark Horse comics, the old Marvel Comics series (shit, there are even some pretty good spinoff fan-films out there).... granted, we don't need a full-on live action feature film for each spin-off story or character (at least, not if the best they can give us is a goddamned Ewok movie, and personally I'm a bit tired about all of the Revenge Of The Return of From The Depths Sarlacc Boba Fett shit), but even if it's just a Cartoon Network/Saturday morning animated show, or regular straight-to-video animated feature films, that would still keep people happy, and curtail the kind of lethal anticipation that's being reaped on these new films. "Star Wars" could easily be more of a fantasy franchise (it's more deserving of such than that geek Harry Potter). I think the "Star Wars" series is even bigger than Lucas himself. I mean fuck, why should it die with him, when it could go on and become that much more. If you think about it, it's really just another mythology, with fantasy that anyone should be able to enjoy, to create. It's not like these stories are personal and unique to George Lucas' own experience of growing up playing with lightsabers, you know? All he really did was set the guidelines, the themes; he didn't even write some of the best films of the first trilogy (shit, for that matter, John Williams has probably had a much more of a lasting presence than him). Case in point, "Star Trek" continues to have a huge fanbase and interesting material even with Roddenberry gone, while James Bond--which, being bound to the conventions of the real world (or as much reality can exist in an action movie)--has MUCH less potential for unique & fantastic stories than either of those two, yet it's still chuggin' along long after Ian Fleming kicked the bucket. With all those Dark Horse comics alone, you probably have enough material to sustain another 10 live action "Star Wars" films. So maybe if the Lucas estate were to somehow take over the franchise after crusty ol' Georgie departs this world, supervising each film, hiring the best and most committed actors and talent, like Cubby Broccoli does over the Bond franchise (or better yet, get those writers and fans who HAVE been writing all those books and comics under their employ and finally give them the validation that they so crave), really, how badly could they fuck up?

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 7:51 p.m. CST

    If this does come to fruition, I so badly want this to rock! Bu

    by Red Raider

    yes, Paul Dini producing this would be great. We'll see what happens. One thing's for sure: If someone other than Lucas directs the episodes, it'll probably be the first time ever that animation acts better & has better dialogue than the live action counterparts!

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 8:13 p.m. CST

    my path to the dark side begins

    by MeatCleaverMojo

    cause i sure do hate all of you fuckers. all i said is i hope it's not some anime poke-wars garbage. but the rest of you, not knowing anything about it except there are supposed plans for a clone wars cartoon, are condemning it already. do you know it will suck? no, you sure as fuck don't. do i know it will be good? no, i sure as fuck don't. i can tell you one thing, it won't be cowboy bebop, thank the lord. i was showing this site to my 9 year old neice, and she said you were all assholes. out of the mouths of babes. even a 9 year old knows you guys are fuckheads. please die a painful and slow death, all of you.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 8:17 p.m. CST

    I just want to know when Lucas is going to release a digitally r

    by Red Raider talk about the funniest shit ever presented! You'll go into convulsions from laughing so hard at how big a turkey that so-called "show" was!

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 8:57 p.m. CST

    um, harry

    by SimpsonsQuoteMan

    so what youre actually saying is that its not actually confirmed AT ALL even in the SLIGHTED????? advanced talks, pffft

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Please Use a Bigger Font the Next Time

    by chicagofilm

    Harry, Please use a bigger font on the opening page the next time so the title takes up all my screen real estate instead of 80% of it. Thanks.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 9:18 p.m. CST


    by JediApple

    MeatCleaverMojo is the Man! Enough Harry! Give MeatCleaverMojo his/her own site! I'm laughing my ass off from this guy. Where can I get my own MeatCleaverMojo t-shirt!?!?

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 9:46 p.m. CST


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  • Nov. 14, 2002, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Honestly, they should think about it

    by IGGMCMC

    I don't see the reason for so much material for star wars. It's going to be too fantastical and all those myths that star wars has borrowed from and purports to protect would disappear. It would just all turn out to be a cartoon or worse, a video game.

  • Nov. 14, 2002, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Tying in to Ep III

    by The Hillbrothers

    In Ep III the stakes of the Clone War should be upped. Clones fighting robots is a cool Sci-Fi notion, but there is no real sense of threat. Just nuke (or use whatever Star Wars equivalent) the damn droids from space. I want to see clones fighting human(oid) armies. Clones fighting clones would be cool. Perhaps that text comment on the DVD about the Kaminoans having cloned before (duh, they're "cloners"), along with the Kaminoan Prime Ministers claim that the army is "ONE of the finest" ever created, indicate that Sidious already has a clone army made and waiting to be unleashed against the republic's clones?

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Why does this article say "Confirmed" on it?

    by Smeg For Brains

    This won't be confirmed until someone from Lucas or Cartoon Network actually officially announces it. Confirmed does not mean "someone I can't tell you about says this and I believe it, but you have no reason to accept it as truth because there is nothing more than my word to say it is real, and you all remember those times I was wrong, like with that Jar Jar Racers thing".

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:51 a.m. CST


    by MeatCleaverMojo

    thank you for your support. you have now made my very short list of talkbackers i don't want to see get hit by a bus then pissed on by a three legged racoon. sadly i don't have any t-shirts to send out. the rest of you cum gargling wastes of oxygen can fuck right off and go straight to hell. ass aliens.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 1:16 a.m. CST

    Episode III Speculations...

    by NJM

    You know, Lucas needs to listen to his own advise more. Remember him saying, "A special effect is just a tool, a means for telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing." Although, on the other hand, he SHOULDN'T as Yoda says, "Always looking off into the future. Never his mind on where he was, what he was doing." He SHOULD look to the future because NOW he's got a 2 hour exposition scene for a movie called "STAR WARS: EPISODE III". Unless he ties things up in a few broad strokes, this is going to be one long exposition scene of a movie. I mean, we KNOW Boba Fett is gonna off Mace Windu, thats a given! Other than that, it's all up there waiting to be pieced together. Also, Lucas says on the EpII commentary that the person who's altering those archives in the Jedi Library (or whatever it is) will be explained in EpIII along with how Yoda makes a connection with Qui-Gon during the Tusken massacre scene. He just keeps on adding to his workload. He should've revealed SOME of these things in Episode II, but it's too late. He should've answered questions on Qui-Gon, Dooku, Palpatine, and more. And is it me, or do all of these characters seem like IDIOTS to you as well? I mean, Palpatine is manipulating EVERYTHING in the Senate, taking EVERY advantage to gain FURTHER power over everything & everyone. Oh wait, he's a's normal behavior. Also, I have ONE piece of advise for Lucas: Go back to Leavesden Studios, build some REAL SETS, and cut back on the CGI shit. Be more like LOTR, blend models, detailed minatures, & CGI to make a more REAL world. I mean, how FAKE does Palpatine's office look? The desk, the floor, the couch by the door, all of it looks like some cheap, homemade CGI rendering. Also, that scene with Obi-Wan, Mace, & Yoda talking before Kenobi departs for Kamino looks TERRIBLY fake! I mean, the space scenes looked GREAT, Yoda looked GREAT, the land war looked GREAT, and so, why can't you deliver convincingly REAL enviroments on Coruscant? I mean, I didn't notice really ANY of the visual tricky they used in LOTR until I heard Peter Jackson's commentary point it all out, but in SW, it's painfully obvious. I'm bored, goodbye. -NJM

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:40 a.m. CST

    well let's see, what's on the agenda for Episode III???

    by phasmatrope

    NJM, I couldn't agree with you more. Georgie will sure have his hands full with this final film trying to tie everything up. In no particular order, we basically have to cover: a) the twins being born, b) Anakin & Amidala's marital strife when he can no longer use his mechanical hand to satisfy her, c) Clone Armies/stormtroopers exceeding their power, fascism reigns, everyone complains, d) Dooku revealed to be conspiring with Palpatine, Palpatine reveals himself as a Sith, says fuck all you whiners, this here's gonna be an empire instead, e) everybody's reaction after Palpatine reveals himself, slapping their collective heads with a big Homer Simpsonesque "doh!", f) we reveal who's been fucking with the library records (Palpatine, but hey, they'll inevitably mention it), g) Anakin & Amidala's marriage completely dissolves/Amidala gets killed/murdered, h) Anakin finally decides Jedi fuck off and switches over to the Dark Side, i) everybody realizing that that Anakin's one mean sumbitch and they gotta protect the twins, j) twins get separated, Uncle Owen decides to form opinion that Obi-Wan's just a crazy old coot, k) Jedi Council broken up/Jedi arrested/assassinated, j) Mace Windu gets killed (an event in and of itself), k) Dooku gets killed, l) Moff Tarkin gets introduced, Imperial hierarchy appointed, m) Yoda hightails it for Degobah, n) Obi-Wan finally confronts Anakin and says hey fool! What'chu think you're trying to pull!!! or vice-versa, they fight, o) Anakin gets fucked up and has to go bionic to maintain his life, p) Obi-Wan somehow salvages Anakin's lightsaber to pass it on to Luke, q) Jar-Jar dying (hopefully), r) the Rebel Alliance starts to form, Mon Mothma possibly introduced, s) a semi-happy ending bittersweet so the film doesn't simply end like some kind of Stormtrooper Triumph Of The Will propaganda film, and everybody doesn't leave the theater in a funk, r) many other details that I've overlooked and SHOULD be covered, but will no doubt be passed over in favor of many other superfluous scenes, like one set in "American Graffiti" retro 50's space diners with alien characters we haven't met yet, and don't care about. I mean really, is there one fucking person out there right now watching these films who DOESN'T know that Palpatine's a Sith lord? (maybe that'll be a surprise years from now, when our kids are watching the entire series for the first time in chronological order, but for the time being, it just means we as an audience know more than our protagonists do, so pretty much nothing we see can come as a surprise. I swear, if George had only learned to edit himself and skipped the damn diner-type scenes and gotten down to improving the bare essentials, he could have done so much more for the characters, and not have ended up with so many loose ends to tie up in the final episode, thus making everything that much better. Oy vey.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Yo Da man is an awful ad...

    by Dolemite_fan

    campaign. My brother woke me up the other morning to show it to me on MTV, and I thought he was bullshittin'...he wasn't. That ad is sooo...XXX or SPIDER-Man or something, its just un-cool, and in ten years that add will be as laughable (though not as fun) as the old NES commercials for RAD RACER. If this CLONE WARS cartoon series comes to fruition, and I really hope it does, it would turn out to be better than EP.I,II,III put together most likely. I wouldnt worry about the style of animation, that'll be on-point, but the story could get tired if they make it 60 episodes, I was thinking like...12, but then again, I dont know how cartoon series work or anything. Maybe Lucas is looking at the potential (I should say the SUCCESS) that the ANIMATRIX will have, and hes trying to jump on that. Anyway, back to CLONE WARS, my theory is that it'll be better b/c there will be little to no pressure b/c they wont have to make people pay to see it, like with the films. I think this could be great if done right, and I'd like to see it.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 4:01 a.m. CST

    The people who should do this cartoon are.....

    by Dj Tiesto

    the guys who did that fantastic show "GARGOYLES" back in the mid 90's. Now that was a goddamn kickass cartoon that was action-packed and serious. I loved that damn show so much, even at age 14-16 I was still watching it everday after getting home from school. You guys know the one..the Gargoyles cartoon with Keith David, Jonathan Frakes, David Warner, John Rhys-Davies as Macbeth among other great voice acting talents. It was THE cartoon in my life, right up there with TRANSFORMERS. This Clone War cartoon does sound interesting though. I hope Lucas makes it GOOD and not cheap out like with the Droids and Ewok cartoons, which bascially had nothing to do with the trilogy. You guys know that McGregor, Frank Oz, christensen and portman and sam jackson would never be caught dead doing the voices for this show..but you never know!

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 4:08 a.m. CST

    Cowboy Bebop

    by dassanie777

    better written in toons than Paul Dini. I love Batman, but Cowboy Bebop blows them all out of the water. as well written as anything cartoon or live action on television. Adult Swim, 11:30, or just buy the DVD on ebay. . .

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 6:01 a.m. CST

    if you missed it before....

    by MeatCleaverMojo

    in my spider-man and daredevil talkbacks, then here's your chance to check it out star-wars style. once again i'll break down the talkback formula for you. here goes: "i claim to be a movie geek, but i hate every movie that is made, so i'm just a geek. the star wars prequels made alot of money and alot of people went to see them so i'm not allowed to like them because i'm so deep and hip. harry gets inside information and i don't, therefore he's lying and even though it has nothing to do with movies or this site i'm going to call him a fatty. i'm so fucking cool, i can pick apart anything. even though i work at mcdonalds and dropped out of community college, i am the worlds deepest and most insightful movie critic. oh...did i mention i know a movie or t.v. show is going to be terrible before it's even made?". there ya go kids, that's what you'll get day in and day out around these parts. fucking cock clowns.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Wonder how Dark Horse Comics feels now...

    by slwalsh

    Lucas told them that they would get to tell the story of the Clone Wars in their monthly Star Wars series (exclusively, we all thought at the time). Now there's gonna be a cartoon too, telling the story of the same exact time period...... Next on Springer!

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Wonder how Jabba feels right now?

    by SuperTooth

    Probably feels hungry. YO THIS IS INCREDIBLE, IF YOU WANNA SEE A TEASER TRAILER ---------->

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Don't forget that Turkish Star Wars 2 is on the way!

    by Declan_Swartz

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 10:59 a.m. CST


    by halberkill

    Oh, my freind, you are one of the suprisingly few people who get it. I see a round black floating interrogation droid in your future. In the (updated for modern times) words of Sting: "I hope the Americans love their children too."

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 11:01 a.m. CST

    What's "Rouge Squadron?"

    by Hyde01

    Is that like a group of prostitutes who tart themselves up to troll the back alleys of Mos Eisley? This "Clone Wars" cartoon will be great, if they do THIS: [long, detailed, rambling screed, salted generously with near-pedophiliac remarks about Natalie Portman]. And they need to avoid THIS: [long, detailed rambling screed denouncing various stylistic choices made by other cartoon producers, salted generously with near-pedophiliac remarks about Natalie Portman].

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Coruscant too CGI???

    by Starbuck1975

    AOTC may have had a lot of problems, but Lucas did achieve a seamless and believable integration of CGI, models, sets and other digital trickery. Most of the scenes incorporated the digital placement of good old fashioned models and puppets. That's right, instead of having some guy hold a spaceship against a blue screen with a stick, ILM now builds a real life sctatch build model and places it against the blue screen with a computer. I thought the effects work in FOTR was very stiff...if you noticed, most of the heavy effects scenes were muted with a blue/grey hue. I also thought it was interesting the amount of collaboration Jackson and crew had with the Lucas crew, where Jackson several times on the FOTR DVD admits to lifting techniques mastered by Lucas in terms of visualization, storyboard, concept art, and all the other components that have made the Star Wars universe come to life. Sure Lucas cant direct to save his life anymore, but you cant deny that WETA lifted everything they know from ILM, and that nothing can touch the work done by ILM.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:08 p.m. CST


    by Nordling

    I may disagree with you on movies, but dead on I am with you politically. Thanks much.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:12 p.m. CST

    an interesting question arises, which is...


    Will this be as cloying, over-plotted and dull as Attack of the Clones?!?!?! 'Cuz if so, sign me the fuck up!!!! OK, my sarcasm got away from me for a sec there. Sorry.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Thanks for being a crack head and inserting the Episode III Spoi


    So now I know how Episode III begins. Ain't it not cool news.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Traitor Windu OR... Traitor Adi Mundi

    by jollydwarf

    Or how about both? While this has probably been brought up somewhere else (many times, even), it seems that there are many clues that indicate that these two are both playing Sifo-Dyas. First, in TPM, they both immediately deny the existence of the Sith. (Yoda isn't so sure) Then, they both dismiss Dooku as being behind Padme's assassination attempt. Sure, it could be Jedi arrogance, but I'm not so sure. Then, they both flank Yoda in the council. Maybe working together to cloud his foresight and insight? Plus, neither of them look particularly friendly. There's more to consider, but I'm at work now, so... Ultimately, I'll bet at least one of them erased Kamino from the data banks, because it would be silly to have it be one of the glorified Jedi extras, and Count Dooku didn't join Sidious until after he left the Jedi order (or so it's implied). I've always been suspicious of Mace, but watching Ep II again on DVD got me thinking. P.S. Did Lucas say explicitly in the commentary that the stormtroopers are Jango clones? I think he did. P.P.S. This just in: Jim Rome just mentioned that the actor who played Ferris Bueller's principal is a child molester. Anyone hear anything about this? I wouldn't post it if I thought that Rome was joking.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by pamelaNeko

    Normally, I can't read through one of your posts without groaning and rolling my eyes 2-3 times. But while reading your most recent post, I actually grinned and nodded. You are so right. Whether you're right or left, our president is a fucking moron. Did you watch Journeys with George?

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Rouge? Emporer? YEESH.

    by Philsy

    I'm so *very* sick of people misspelling the following two words used in Star Wars lore: - Emperor (misspelled as "Emporer") - Rogue (misspelled as "Rouge") I want everyone who makes these mistakes on a regular basis to get off the internet and DO SOME READING. OK? Half hour a day, at least. People should need a license to use the net.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 1:10 p.m. CST

    an AOTC animated series?!? HOLY FUCKIN' CHRIST!!!!

    by NeofromtheMatrix

    I just LOVED that movie, saw it thrice at the theater! At this point, I'd be happy if they simply marketed a ROTJ saturday morning cartoon! - I know Kung Fu

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Dear Neo OR... From Alex T.

    by jollydwarf

    For the last time, NO YOU DON'T. "Is the tea iced tea?" "No." "Then I have no idea."

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 1:29 p.m. CST


    by BowlingShirtcom

    Bash me if you want, but I'd really like to see a SHADOW OF THE EMPIRE animated film. 5 years ago, they had everything - a video game, book, figures, even a friggin soundtrack - but no movie??? Yes, it's not the greatest story, but I'd much rather see Shadows with all of our favorite OT characters (well, except Han). And I'm sure Mark Hamill would be happy as a pig in shit to do Luke's voice! And why not get James Earl Jones a little Vader voice practice for his EP III lines, too? Any thoughts?

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Fettastic, Thomas Anderson here...

    by NeofromtheMatrix

    personally, I see George Dubya Bush merely as a pawn in a game being played by the masters of the world... "We're gonna turn the Earth into a living hell, devastated by endless pollution and neverending conflict, and when the second great depression and the subsequent third world war are finally upon us, the human race shall blame the incompetent and corrupt puppet in the white house, never suspecting that the Brotherhood of the Illuminati was responsible for their torment! LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" - I know Kung Fu (fuck the agents of the Matrix, fuck them up their stupid asses!)

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Fettastic, Thomas Anderson here...

    by NeofromtheMatrix

    personally, I see George Dubya Bush merely as a pawn in a game being played by the masters of the world... "We're gonna turn the Earth into a living hell, devastated by endless pollution and neverending conflict, and when the second great depression and the subsequent third world war are finally upon us, the human race shall blame the incompetent and corrupt puppet in the white house, never suspecting that the Brotherhood of the Illuminati was responsible for their torment! LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" - I know Kung Fu (fuck the agents of the Matrix, fuck them up their stupid asses!)

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:05 p.m. CST


    by murgatroid1

    I thought the same things when I saw AOTC. I wonder if Lucas is the next Nostradamus. The guy has quickly turned into a tyrant, and if you listen to his supporters they sound like supporters of a facists. They say thousands died to give people the right to protest so its a shame they protest and if they don't like Bush they should leave the country. Huh? Didn't they just say that men died defending the right of free speech and now they're mad that people disagree. They wan't everyone to think ONE WAY, kind of like what Anakin was talking about. Anyway, you hit the nail on the head. Back on topic the cartoon sounds cool.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:08 p.m. CST

    fettastic OR... Sith Math Made Easy!

    by jollydwarf

    I'll keep this to Mace and not politics here. I agree that the Sith rule seems to be a rather strict one, but don't forget that it was instituted by Darth Bane so that the discipline might survive. There used to be thousands of Sith (or at least hundreds). While it's not canon/"in the movies", it is in the Episode I novelization. Maybe Palpatine/Sidious sees this as an opportunity to seize power and unleash the Sith as the dominant force in the universe again. Plus, even without Mace/Ki Adi factored in, no one would have a problem with Palpatine being a midichlorian-free clone to throw everyone off. Sidious+Clone+Apprentice=3. Or at least 2.5. Again, I don't know who else it could be who's fucking with the Jedi from inside. Unless Lucas is indulging in shoddy story-telling. Nahhhhh....

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:19 p.m. CST

    i knew this would happen

    by MeatCleaverMojo

    don't bring your star wars novel continuity into this. darth bane? was darth bane in any of the films? no, so he doesn't exist. chewie's not dead, han and leia don't have twins and there is no such person as mara jade. time in the star wars galaxy stopped right after the yub yub song and didn't begin until there was a trade dispute on naboo, we clear on this?i sure hope so. oh...and one more thing...i don't wanna make you guys cry or anything, but boba fett is fucking dead, he's in the belly of that fucking pussy with teeth on tatooine, he didn't fight his way out and dengar did not come and nurse him back to health. still hating all you pole pumpers. meatcleavermojo signing off.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Whoa LIKED "Droids" ?

    by RobinP

    Jeez, no accounting for taste.....I guess.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Continuity OR "I'll Take 'Especially Disturbing User I.D.s' for

    by jollydwarf

    Look, I mentioned the Sith backstory reluctantly, as it's admittedly not in the films. But the novelization of a film is easily different enough (novelizations may expand on the film, but they don't contradict) than the Expanded Universe shit. Which most of it is. At least what I've read. The Sith have a history, and Lucas would do well to explain it in Episode III, so that it might become "Canon". Unless he's going to pass the reigns to some young'n to make the Jedi V. Sith Pre-Prequels. I could care less about organic webshooters or what happened after "Jedi" or Krypton blowing up. But to have this whole adversarial discipline and not explain it at all in the films is a joke. So in a way, I guess we kinda agree. Not sure if I want to agree with anyone with "Meatcleaver" in their User I.D., though. (Gulp)

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 3:14 p.m. CST

    by SonOfJorel

    I do believe the history of the Sith is already canon, as Lucas himself recounted it on the (I believe it was this) commentary track to TPM.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 3:25 p.m. CST

    agree with me, it's not a bad thing

    by MeatCleaverMojo

    especially when i've made clear my motives of shooting a documentary about a guy who snaps and goes cross country pulling talkbackers intestines out their pee holes with a rusty coat hanger. in case you're just joining us kids, i hate most talkbackers, they claim to be movie lovers, yet they hate every movie ever made. i joined the talkbacker rands only to spread my own personal recipe for "good will towards man". but you're ok, so your intestines and your pee hole are safe.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 3:30 p.m. CST

    fettastic, again with the box office obsession...


    what's up with that, anyway? and hey, go badgers.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 3:47 p.m. CST

    "The finest starpilot in the galaxy..."

    by Toonimator

    ...yet another bonus a Clone Wars series could have: prove that Anakin's a damn good fighter pilot. One of my fanboy dreams of the prequels was seeing Anakin kicking butt in the seat of a snubfighter, in the middle of some heavy ROTJ-style fighter battles. Instead we get him fumbling around as a kid in a Naboo fighter, and driving a speeder on a pretty neat chase. Where's the "best starpilot" business? Unless the last battle of the Clone Wars in EpIII is an epic space battle, that's yet another thing GL's failed to explain. Anyway, I'll let you guys get back to your political debates & analogies...

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 4 p.m. CST

    future of Star Wars

    by Das_Heinrich

    I think this is an expairment much like young Indy was, to see how good they can make an all CGI Star Wars for the future when George decides to make episodes VII VIII and IX. Face it the actors will be too old, so why not digitally create them. C'mon Lucas is like Jordan, he'll try to walk away but he won't be able to, lets just hope is VII-IX are better than jordan's jumpers.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 4:45 p.m. CST

    You know it

    by Master T-MACK

    You know Star Wars is so fucking popular when all these people talkback. This is fantastic news. George better not make this into a friggen anime adventure with those huge ugly ass eyes. All hopes point this series to reinvigorate Star Wars with a boost of power. The wait to May 2005 won't take that long after all.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 4:55 p.m. CST

    What was the only good SW film and who DIDN'T write it?

    by cryptochrome

    That's right, Empire, the only SW that really kicked ass. Folks, if Lucas keeps his insane mitts off the scripts this might actually be good, and if they put it via adult swim it might actually be better.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Hey, I wouldn't mind seeing an "anime-style" Star Wars...

    by Oh Hell

    ...if the "anime-style" in question happened to be that of AKIRA or SPRIGGAN.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 6:38 p.m. CST

    'The Trade Federation made a deal that was hideous. They agreed

    by Brundle_Fly

    Oh my God is that fucking gay!!! Star Wars rap....holy shit...

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 6:52 p.m. CST


    by Evil Chicken

    My inner Geekboy glows with warmth.

  • Nov. 15, 2002, 8:14 p.m. CST

    The star wars cartoons!

    by IGGMCMC

    Nuff said. Well not really. While this talkback may have sounded enthusiastic and astonished the closest emotions would have to be pity and dread. I have not cared for star wars since the phantom menace but for the sake of Lucas as a human being lets just say that I'd feel super sorry for him if he goes along with this.

  • Nov. 16, 2002, 2:42 p.m. CST

    This is going to rock!

    by Thol Sabirs

    The battle at the end of AOTC is the single most amazing battle sequence I've ever seen. It was incredible. Now we're going to get 60 episodes of this? I can't wait.