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Several Reviews From The First Test Screening of Robert Rodriguez's ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... I went to the first test screening of ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO tonight in Austin, Texas. All the top brass from Sony and Dimension were there. Rodriguez and his lovely wife and producer Elizabeth were there. Oh and an army of MOVIEVIEW folks were there. How was the movie? Well, I enjoyed the hell out of it, but I'm very tight with Rodriguez so I'll abstain from reviewing the film. The print was projected digitally with one of them fancy High Def jobs, the film had many temp effects, incomplete effects (there's over 300 digital effects to be done for the film). The movie only had two completed pieces of music, so the rest is currently being worked on right now. I think the place where I most wanted the finished music was over the last 25 minutes or so of the movie, where the temp score of Leone's classics, WAY OF THE GUN, GLADIATOR and what not just wasn't what it needed to be. The film ran 102 minutes long and Robert told me it will end up being shorter than that when he's done. I can't wait to see this with final music, sound and color timed (this print was extremely high on the RED register). We have 4 reviews for now, 3 very positives and 1 very negative. I expect I'll see reviews from many AICN operatives that were in attendence undercover. For now, let's start with Toranaga...

Howdy Harry!    

Just got back from a test screening of Once Upon a Time in Mexico, the third film in Robert Rodriguez's Mariachi Trilogy.  I've been pretty much staying away from any early news on this film, since I wanted to see it without any idea of what to expect, and was very pleased with what it turned out to be.    

First of all, like most people, I absolutely love El Mariachi.  Great story of mistaken identity with a tragic ending.  And Desperado followed that up with lots of style, more guns, and memorable characters.  This time with Antonio Banderas stepping into the Mariachis shoes  with "cool" oozing out of his pores.  Rodriguez just went nuts on action and choreography and left a shit eating grin on my face.    

And now, once again, I have that same grin.  But if you are expecting more of the same with Once Upon A Time in Mexico, you're in for a surprise.  All of the those things that made the previous two films so good are still here.  The action scenes, the characters, oh God the characters, the style, and the music.  But what makes this film different is the scope.  Where the previous two films were simple stories about revenge, this story involves more characters, subplots, and not just revenge.  Oh no, folks.  "El" needs to save Mexico from a coup and an assai.    

The film takes place a few years after Desperado.  CIA Agent Sands (Johnny Depp) is out to hire "El" to kill Marquez, a military leader that El has beef with.  It seems that Barillo (Willem Dafoe) and his cartel have hired Marquez to assassinate the president of Mexico on the Day of the Dead and overthrow the government.  The catch being to not kill Marquez until after he has assassinated the president. Sands has this obsession with balance (particularly with his food) and thinks the president being dead will help keep that balance. But that is pretty much secondary to El.  He's got a deep hate for Marquez, and wants to see him dead.    

The film is told in a way where they don't give you all the information at once, but it comes in pieces, slowly fitting together and all coming to a head in the end. So I wont go into too much detail about the rest of the movie.  But aside from the kick ass action sequences (particularly a real kick ass motorcycle/car chase) what really kicked ass in the film were the characters.  Willem Dafoe as Barillo was...well shit, man.  He's Willem Dafoe.  Excellent as always and a great Mariachi villain.  Ruben Blades as retired FBI agent Jorge and Mickey Rourke Billy turn in outstanding performances as a couple of guys who want to be done with what they have had to live with for years. I usually don't expect or get the kind of character Ruben Blades played in an action movie, but man, he came through.  Danny Trejo as Cucuy is a badass as usual, with thankfully a somewhat larger role than he had in Desperado.  And the man who undoubtedly stole this movie was Johnny Depp.  Antonio Banderas?  No, no ,no.  This was Johnny Depps movie.  The guy is just cool as hell.  Funny, smart ass, fucked in the head, corrupt CIA agent.  He had the best dialogue ("Are you Mexi-can, or Mexi-cant?), the best costumes, and funny as hell gunfight in the end.  Hell, by the end I was hoping they would do a spin-off movie with him and his bloody face.    

What else can you expect from this movie?  Dafoe looking like Darkman!  Eye sockets galore!  A third arm flailing around!  A flamethrower guitar case!  Extreme facelift!  A dog named Moco!  I even noticed they used the music from Once Upon a Time in the West at one point!     

If you can get past what I thought was the only low point of the movie (Enrique Iglesias acting!) and you really enjoyed the other two Mariachi films, this ones a no brainer.  I'm out.    

Toranaga

Here's a review from a person I'll call.... The Transplant. He liked OUATIM quite a bit, but didn't all the way love it, so here ya go....

Hey Harry,  

Some words from the burgeoning metropolis of Austin. As a recent transplant to your fair town, I hoped to cash in on the wide variety of cinematic delights available in Austin, and as of yet, am very satisfied.  

The most recent example being live and in person for the latest test screening of "Once Upon a Time in Mexico", or as my less movie savvy friends called it "The sequel to Desperado with the lame, unmarketable title"  

Nonetheless, the flick is good. Solid, but not great. Robert Rodriguez pulls another out another chapter of everyone's favorite out-for-vengeance guitar player. Nothing real surprising there right? In this case, we're talking hi def DV, a bit more money on effects (especially seen with the flock of motorcycles) and Johnny Depp is in it.  

Unfortunately, not much to be seen of Salma Hayek. A little, but hardly in it. Sad, sad, sad.  

Luckily the additions to the well known returning cast of Antonio Banderas, Danny Trejo, and Cheech Marin (among other likely) include Willem Dafoe, Mickey Rourke, Ruben Blades, Enrique Iglesias (odd, but OK) and as noted above, Johnny Depp. Best new addition is definitely Johnny Depp. His character capsulizes what we would imagine a CIA agent on a low priority assignment would be. Sarcastic, out for himself, funny only to himself, he's great, and gets the best lines.  

In a lot of ways, "Once upon a time" brings Desperado edging towards an obvious comparison with Traffic, with a bunch of side stories to the Mariachi's taking up valuable screen time. The biggest complaint from people in the audience was that the story was "Too complicated". I'd argue that, but the story and different plots certainly aren't spelled out in obviously painful ways, which makes it much different from the average action flick. It'll be interesting to see how the test screening process changes this. Some valid points however, include the fact that some plot points come out of nowhere and hence don't have the significance one would assume they should, likely a direct result of the number of them converging in the third act.  

But yeah, the action is cool as expected, what was done of the presumably final soundtrack was great and matched the movie really well, the overall feel is what it is... the North American version of the Hong Kong action flick. Fun, cool, some slow mo birds flying, vengeance and so on.  

Finally, the movie looks great, generally, a few spots the hyper-real look of the video pops out... in one case a background landscape looks inserted, when it likely wasn't. A bunch of the climax looks more video-like than the rest of the film. If it wasn't for these few spots (which I'm assuming will be corrected for) the casual viewer wouldn't notice anything.

Here's a real quick and to the point review from, "One of the CHIPS"...

Hey Harry,  

I just saw Once Upon A Time In Mexico. I don't know how to comment on something that is still in the works. From what I viewed it looks to be a success. It's a great action movie. It's filled to the brim with guns and explosives. There's even a great chase scene, one of the coolest I have seen this year. The performances were good, there was nothing new in the performances of Banderas or Hayek, they just did what they did well in Desperado. There was one performance that outshined the others though. That was the performance of Johnny Depp. This guy stole the show from Banderas and made El Mariachi look like a secondary character. Depp's character made me want to see a movie about him. I feel that many people will enjoy Depp and enjoy the action filled 3rd installment when it debuts.  

Thanks for your time and nice to meet you,  

One of The Chips

Then here's the negative review that we got from No Slack Six who didn't go all the way with the film. He had logic issues, performance issues, didn't like the cartoonish nature of the hyper-violence, seems like he would've favored a more realistic take on the film, but here's his own voice to tell you that...

Here it is.  Thanks for responding.  If you print this, call me No Slack Six.       

Long time listener, first time caller.  I just got back from the test screening of Once Upon a Time in Mexico here is glorious Austin. Be warned there are spoilers ahead.    

First, let me say that I am not really a Robert Rodriquez fan.  I like the idea of Robert Rodriuquez, the local boy who makes it big.  I enjoyed "El Mariachi", but I thought that "From Dusk 'til Dawn", "Desperado", and "The Faculty" were average.  I haven't seen the Spy Kids movies, but I understand that they are very good.  I rented "El Mariachi" and "Desperado" so I would be prepared to enjoy the test screening because it is my first one.    

The movie opens with Johnny Depp playing one of his trademark "weird" characters.  This time he's some kind of rogue CIA agent seeking information from Cheech Marin's character.  He wants to know about El Mariachi so he can get him to kill an evil Mexican general who is going to stage a coup.  There's a lot of money and an evil Cartel drug lord involved in the plot, and El Mariachi has a role to play because the evil Mexican general killed his wife (Salma Hayek's character in the last movie).  It's pretty involved and sometimes doesn't make enough sense to follow.    

What follows is some gun play (not as much as Desperado), many double crosses, some un-necessary eye surgery, a coup, more back-up Mariachis like in Desperado, more double crosses, a retired FBI agent avenging his slain partner, and a bunch of dead bodies.  In the end El Mariachi avenges his wife, justice is served, and the movie, ultimately, fails.    

Why?  I think that Rodriquez was trying to cross two genres of film and couldn't decide where to land.  In the comment sheet that we had to fill out at the end of the screening, we were asked "how would we describe this movie to a friend"?  I said that in was another entry in Quetin Tarintino's unmade movie festival.  Which is basically what this movie is.  But, it could have been so much more.    

Rodriquez was trying to cross two genre's: the Mexican Gun Opera and a serious crime movie.  Hell, he helped invent the first genre, but it is becoming a little over-done.  As far a I'm concerned "The Way of the Gun" is the high water mark for these movies.  Now for the serious crime movie, movies like "The Usual Suspects" or "Heat" or "Ronin".  Once upon a time has some of the elements of these movies, but it seemed like he couldn't decide what he wanted to do.  In a way I felt that he wanted to be loyal to the idea of "El Mariachi" but he also wanted to make a more serious movie.  It almost felt like the mariachi elements of the story line were forced into the plot.  The movie could have been made separately from the series and been much better for it.     

Imagine this for a storyline: Rogue CIA agent instigates a coup in Mexico and lets the evil Cartel drug-lord know about it.  The drug-lord aspires for political power and legitimacy.  He's like Pablo Escobar and views himself a man of the people.  He decides to have plastic surgery to look like the leader of the coup so he can kill him and assume the identify of the new president of Mexico.  Now the CIA agent doesn't really care about the coup because he is somehow going to profit from all this.  So he hires a hitman to kill the leader of the coup and then uses a retired FBI agent to track down and kill the drug lord.  He plays them all off of each other until.....a big shoot out at the end of a street battle where truth, justice, and the Mexican way are served.    

Wouldn't that make a more interesting movie?  Well, all the elements of this are in the movie already.  Its just bogged down with the forced mariachi vengeance story line which was wasn't very good in the first place.  If you take out the mariachi scenes, you are left with a great performance by Johnny Depp, a great, but wasted, performance by Ruben Blades as the retired FBI guy, and you get Willem Dafoe at his creepy best as the drug lord.  Leave in the mariachi scenes and you get weepy music where Banderas pines for his lost love in a series of annoying flashbacks that didn't have anything to do with the first two movies.    

So there you have it.  Re-shoot it, keep the title, and drop Banderas.    

No Slack Six out  

ps.  Here is a list of other petty criticisms: Antonio Banderas shoots like a girl.  Hire a gun coach next time to show him how to handle a weapon.  Who the hell are all these bad ass Mariachis?  Is there some kind of Mariachi Ninja academy is Mexico? Could the military action have been any worse?  It looked like scenes from "Commando".  Grenades and rockets don't make people fly in the air in a huge fire ball.  They rip you to shreds with shrapnel making very little flames (talk-backers take my word for this).  Is Johnny Depp Daredevil? (see the movie and you'll understand)  Are there no police anywhere in Mexico?  Why does everyone have to be someone father or daughter?  End of list.

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  • Oct. 23, 2002, 5 a.m. CST

    reasons to watch it

    by Ali786

    action salma hayek guns salma hayek characters salam hayek ...when is the trailer out for it? I'm tired waiting..

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 5:06 a.m. CST

    ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXIC... NOW! PLEASE GOD!

    by thx777b

    Robert fuckign bloody Rodrigues on your face. This it eh ultimate film of 2003 together with KILL BILL. Shit man OUATIM and KB in the same fucking year. How fucking cool is that. If 2002 was the year of great franchises. 2003 will be the year of Tarantino and Rodriguez. The year of the gun. Can't fucking wait!:) And Harry Please post a fucking review man. I don't care if some people think you may like the movie just because you eat beefburgers on Rodrigues backyeard every dunday morning.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 5:09 a.m. CST

    About time we heard some news on this bad boy.

    by Cash Bailey

    And I'm still not convinced about this digital stuff. How can it possible compare with film in low light levels?

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Looking forward to it......

    by PolloDiablo

    How the hell is it that this is the first I've even heard of this film, have I fallen out of the loop or something, how did I manage to miss the fact that a film of this magnitude is in production. I'm defiantly looking forward to this, & the fact that Depp is in it just makes it all that much more exciting. I love the style and comic book action Rodrigues puts into his films, I love El Mariachi, Desperado, & yes even From Dusk till Dawn.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Well ya know Im not really a fan blah blah

    by MSILENUS

    I love how one of the reviews was from a guy where the first thing on his mind about the movie was "not enough Salma Hayek". Is that the most important thing when reviewing the film is if the hornball gets to see some T&A? Also the guy who didnt like it....he doesnt like Rodriguez films??!! Then why the hell is he sending in his review man!? Hes biased! As usual Im going to have to see a film myself before passing judgement cause I cant rely on 70% of the people who write in reviews here.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Write a review, Harry!

    by Silvio Dante

    I understand that you are "tight" with RR, but heck - you can speak your mind, it's your website! Your personal knowledge of the director would give the piece some nice insights - as long as you don't take the "vagina monologue"-route again. Please, dude - never again. And if you didn't like OUTIM, I'm sure Rodriquez can take the criticism if you back it up with sound reasoning. Anyway, new mariachi-film sounds like another leap forward in style & scope, not unlike the leap from El Mariachi to Desperado.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 5:51 a.m. CST

    Any mothafucka saying Depp's acting choices have been weird has

    by PattyOGreen

    Fuck him. I love most everything Depp does (except, maybe, 9th Gate or whatever that was called), and my favorite role of his is HST in Fear & Loathing. Was at the sceening tonight, and again, his performance was absolutely AWESOME! Any movie where Johnny Depp tells some hapless fool to "fuck off" seems to be just up my alley. Mmmm... and as opposed to Desperado, the locations shot in this movie makes me want to take the few hour journey down to Mexico, as opposed to the feeling I got from the second movie (that whole fearing for your life aspect). Goddamn if this movie wasn't awesome. Screw realistic effects, El Mariachi is a folk legend. He's supposed to be bigger than life. Can't wait for this thing to hit the theaters so I can watch it a few more times and then get it on DVD.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 6:02 a.m. CST

    Who raped Ulrika?

    by benben

    John Leslie did (apparently)

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 6:34 a.m. CST

    John Leslie?!!?!

    by Magic Milkmaid

    I was wondering about that this morning whilst watchin the news. Where did you hear that? John Leslie...... He seems like such a nice man....

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 7:09 a.m. CST

    that's what they're sayin'

    by benben

    He seems to be the no. 1 contender, check out google groups, it's got to come out soon...

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Seems like Leslie's the man, check this out......

    by benben

    http://www.lsrfm.com/cgi-bin/messageboard?thread=162

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 7:29 a.m. CST

    What in god's name are you blathering about?

    by GimliMcGimpy

    John Leslie? Ulkira (or whatever)? What the fuck? And why the hell are you talking about it in the OUATIM talkback?

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 7:41 a.m. CST

    dunno, just feel like it.

    by benben

    So sue me

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 8:05 a.m. CST

    This film

    by Mac Gargan

    looks cool. But John Leslie? And Ulrika's penchant for brown love? You boys must be on crack! Where do you get this stuff?

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 9:13 a.m. CST

    RR is the best he is, at what he does.

    by jak flash 2000

    Robert Rodriguez is arguably one of the best directors in hollywood. Hell I evn saw Spy Kids just becasue he directed it (shame that it was good for kids but not adults). This film will rock. Oh and that sort of lost tale of the Mariachi which we don't get to see. Well lets hope theres something about it on the dvd. And hey, why were there no features on The Faculty dvd? New e-mail is:akj2@aber.ac.uk

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Error: Website Not Responding

    by Hellpop

    WTF! I don't even want to mention the ridiculous number of times I tried to get into this story but got some error message saying the site wasn't responding. shitty yo. Not to mention how long it took me to get into the talkback so I could complain. What the hell is going on? This wasn't happening a week ago.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Fix the site

    by Egon Spengler

    Dammit.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 1:24 p.m. CST

    It worked fine earlier...

    by Silvio Dante

    Must be the rush hour...

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but

    by Egon Spengler

    twas like this yesterday also. And by the way, Ulrika better keep her trap shut about Sven G

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Check out this link

    by zacdilone

    http://www.poopreport.com/ Check out the background color. Look familiar?

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Best. Cast. Ever.

    by Elgyn6655321

    All it needs is Michael Wincott.

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Slo-mo with HD Camera

    by Blast Doh

    Does anyone know much about this? I know you can't really crank an HD camera to get slow-motion photography. It is possible to fake it with post production technology, but I don't know if it looks as good as cranked film slow motion. And Robert Rodriguez movies make extensive use of it (and it looks great). Does his use of the HD camera mean that he uses slow motion in his action scenes less? I mean, with Lucas it didn't matter since he doesn't use the obvious style that slow motion brings...but an HD camera would really affect the way a Rodriguez flick would feel. Any thoughts?

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 7:23 p.m. CST

    I have a question

    by coop

    Does this film do the typical Rodriguez 3rd act crap? Like in "Desperado", it's really good until his friends show up all with weapons in guitar cases and it turns into a cartoon. Or in "From Dusk till Dawn" when it's all really good until everyone in the bar including the band reveal that they are vampires and it becomes a cartoon. Does this one do the quick left turn in the third act that makes you roll your eyes? Or did he leave out the cheesy ending this time?

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Now harry gets a conscience?

    by ZO

    why would u stop being yourself? you're not like these other critics so stop trying to be like them. be yourself and review the movie

  • Oct. 23, 2002, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Terry Gilliam signs on to brothers Grimm biopic at MGM

    by RawShark

    Depp is the man. But John Leslie was on Blue Peter when I watched it. Weird

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 1:10 a.m. CST

    It needs to be said again: Best Cast Ever.

    by Wino-Forever

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 2:12 a.m. CST

    i just jizzed on myself

    by jetlii

    thank fuckin god this movie got to see daylight. robert rodriguez is a god to me, i wanna be like robert. this is one bad ass director. hey robert if yo read this i just want to say that alfonso arau was right: this muchacho can direct. you're better than that fucking tarantino. admit it man, you're one bad ass motherfucker. later.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Robert Rodriguez and Kevin Smith should team up to make a movie.

    by Dark Knight Lite

    Overrated at best. Dark Knight out.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 5:55 a.m. CST

    RE: Crap 3rd act.

    by MiguelAlvarez

    Coop, a correction for you. RR may have directed FDT-Dawn, but Tarantino WROTE the thing: so if you want to blame somebody for what you call a crap third act, well...if the shoe fits! <it does> Personally I loved the film from start to finish. Besides, if it hadn't been for the 'crap stuff' it wouldn't have been the cross genre film promised, but just another crime flick - and a pretty average one to boot.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Debra from "Raymond"?

    by Silvio Dante

    That's not something you hear everyday. Refreshing. Little bit too motherly for my tastes, but refreshing.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 3:11 p.m. CST

    CGI in an El Mariachi movie???

    by IAmLegolas

    I loved the first 2, and they didn't need CGI. Geezus, I hope it's not going to be sh*tty CGI like his Spy Kids movies. I mean those were kids movies, so it's okay for that and all, but this...eh. Bad move. Still can't wait to see it just because of the cast and the El Mariachi storyline.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Sitcom babes

    by Silvio Dante

    Fair enough. I'm kinda partial to Leah from King Of Queens myself.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I am so mad

    by caseyko74

    Okay, gotta say I am so mad I didn't see this since I just moved to Austin and this is a movie I have been anticipating for years. And, I have been wanting this year since that is when it was filmed. Heck, when I was a reporter I even wrote about it in a couple of articles. Oh well, such is my current run of luck. Anyway, Harry I gotta say man you should just go ahead and right a review. Yeah, I know you have said you and Robert Rodriguez are friends. But, hell, this is your site. You can do what you want. Major media outlets tailor their news to fit their goals, therei s no reason you shouldn't tailor this site for what you want. I want to hear what you think about this project. That is one of the things that got me originally hooked on this site was your friendship with Rodriguez and your reports from the set of The Faculty. So write your review and damn/ignore those who call you a sellout. I gotta say i am so looking forward to this movie. Desperado is a classic to me. This is a trilogy I will raise my kids on like i was raised on The Man With No Name Trilogy by my father.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 7:40 p.m. CST

    NO SLACK SIX**

    by Sgt. Black

    You hit my Numbah 1 piss-off button; action movies with shit for realism for weapons handling and fo'-real Numbah 10 effect of what small arms damage does to human bodies. For example... BlackHawk Down, and Saving Private etc. If your gonna do it, do it right. Hell, they hired guys who were in the Teams for Way of The Gun. It won't cost as much as a 3rd "1st assistant director", and will make the film AT THE LEAST 50% better. But... maybe real shooters don't look "cool" when they take down a bad guy. They don't want to die.

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 8:21 p.m. CST

    RE: WHAT?! Salma Hayek "hardly in it?" Then my $9.50 they will n

    by DeNiro_Pacino

    WHO GIVES A CRAP IF SALMA HAYEK IS HARDLY IN IT... I WOULD`NT WASTE 10 BUCKS JUST TO SEE SALMA HAYEK ALONE LOL. SHE`S HOT AND TALENTED BUT C`MON NOW... I`D RATHER RENT A MEXICAN PORN FOR $5 IF I WANTED TO GET OFF. ANYWAY, AFTER TARANTINO, RODRIGUEZ`S THE MAN... LOVED EL.MARIACHI, DESPERADO...AND OF COURSE DUSK TILL DAWN. CAN`T WAIT TO SEE JOHNNY DEPP`S PERFORMANCE IN THIS ONE. IT`S BEEN 2 YEARS SINCE I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND FINALLY GET TO READ ABOUT IT IN REVIEWS. CANT WAIT FOR THE RELEASE...ALONG W/ KILL BILL!

  • Oct. 24, 2002, 8:32 p.m. CST

    OPEN LETTER TO HARRY

    by DeNiro_Pacino

    Harry man, you must write a review! I mean if you really are tight with Robert then don`t be afraid to share your personal views about his film. I`m sure a man of his buisness he knows compliments and criticism are necessary for his line of work...and will respect whatever you have to say. As a writer you should`nt hold back on your views of things...After all this is your website, and i`m sure your fans, me being one of them , would like to read your review on the film!

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 7:38 a.m. CST

    No Sense Six

    by cappio

    That reviewer NS6 categorized Heat and Usual Suspects together under "serious crime movies," like those two have anything in common. I suppose that other favorite pairs of serious crime movies of his are L.627 and Pulp Fiction, French Connection and Miller's Crossing, or Mean Streets and Blade Runner. All of those are good movies, but they're fundamentally different. I see no reason to take a reviewer seriously when he lumps flicks together like that. That's not even mentioning the pitiful grammar and spelling.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 8:14 a.m. CST

    i'm all dehydrated after reading all those mighty fine reviews

    by waterboy69

    Rodriguez + Banderas + Depp + Hayek + Defoe = It would take a retard to fuck up a movie with this sorta pedigree. I have been expecting big things ever since I heard this movie had got the go ahead and it looks like I won't be disappointed. Hot diggeteeeee! I'm off to suck on Vicky Vallencourt's boobies....

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 1:30 p.m. CST

    100 days..

    by Minega

    Sorry this is kinda off topic but have any of u seen the film '100 days'about the Rwanda genocide?I am a Rwandese and i work for a local paper..im doing a piece on the movie and i would like to know what the rest of the world thought.I heard it was showing in film festivals around the world,its with a Rwandese cast and directed by a guy called Nicj Hughes.If u saw the film please email me and tell me what u thought.i would be very grateful...

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 1:44 p.m. CST

    oops...mistake..

    by Minega

    I meant NICK Hughes...sorry.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 5:09 p.m. CST

    No Slack Six , you are a goddamned retard

    by Wellesian

    First of all, in answer to your question, I will be graduating from the Mariachi Ninja Academy of Coahilo this spring. Second of all, I too was at the screening. This film is NOTHING close to a crime drama like "Usual Suspects", "Heat" or "Ronin". Its intended to be an epic, about revolution and freedom from oppression of various forms. Look to Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time Movies, and you'll see what I'm talking about. Now, if you consider the subplot between the Mexican General and Mariachi, then you're just plain old borderline retarded. I mean it. You are a fucking mongoloid. If you think the Flashback sequences had nothing to do with the first two movies, you have acheived sub-Mongoloid intelligence. Dont like Rodriguez? Okay, I can handle that. If So, you SHOULDNT BE REVIEWING THE FUCKING MOVIE. Point blank. As for the fakeness of the movie - Pineapple grenades fly with nothing but shrapnel. However HE grenades make large fireballs, and a bazooka or high powered rocket can send a guy flying in the air. But not only that, ITS A GODDAMNED MOVIE, NIMROD!! LOOKING FOR REALISM! GO SOMEPLACE ELSE! The simple fact that you came to this, being sooo familiar enough with Rodriguez's work, expecting realistic action sequences, contributes to the argument that I have made before --- You are a fucking idiot, No Slack Six. THE ARGUMENT HAS ENDED! I HAVE SPOKEN, BITCHES

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Mistake

    by Wellesian

    "Now, if you consider the subplot between the Mexican General and Mariachi difficult to follow, then you're just plain old borderline retarded." I am a Roman General who can admit his mistakes.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 6:47 p.m. CST

    PERSONAL EMAIL!? YOU PUSSY!

    by Wellesian

    No Slack 6, you incredible faggot! You send me a personal email just because I shot your bullshit review full of holes! You called down the thunder, well now you got it! And this goes for anyone who takes this inane, unimportant bullshit seriously: Send a personal email to me, and I will hunt you down, motherfuckers. I will own you. You dont like what I said? Fine. Talk about it here. Not personally. No Slack 6, I will make it my mission to find any review you post, and talkback you enter and make you eat my shit, you petty cunt.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 6:56 p.m. CST

    MaxMeridius

    by noslack6

    Once you post, your email is available to everyone on talkback. I just dropped you a note to let you know what an asshole you were and not waste everyone's time with it. So go ahead and hunt me down and own my ass. Indulge in your adolescent fantasy.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 7:04 p.m. CST

    NoSlack

    by Wellesian

    Adolescent would indicate that I have no intention of doing it. I have every intention. Furthermore, I consider adolescent calling anyone with an opposing view and valid arguments to back it up, downright fucking childish. Now, do you want to continue this pointless, senseless argument?

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 7:08 p.m. CST

    To other talkbackers..

    by Wellesian

    actually interested in Once Upon A Time in Mexico comments, I apologize. I voice my opinion, and someone childishly reaches me personally, which, in my opinion, is verboten. Unless so instigated again, I will drop this insipid bullshit, and let the honest discussion continue.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 9:28 p.m. CST

    waffle maker

    by Horpis

    I too would like to see this movie, and to add I have found a waffle maker. Can you describe it to me?

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 9:35 p.m. CST

    New here

    by Horpis

    Hello guys I'm new here. Is this site have to do with movies? I've been looking for a good place to discuss movies.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 9:37 p.m. CST

    God that's funny

    by Horpis

    Don't get me started on Corky Ramano. I thought it was almost as funny as Zoolander. I think these two movies were overbashed.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Zoolander

    by Horpis

    Did people really think Zoolander was as bad as they say it was? I just got around to seeing it last weekend. I thought it was hilarious. A lot of people don't like Ben Affleck but I think he was great as the model guy.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Affleck

    by Horpis

    I thought Ben Affleck was great in There's something about Mary as well. Another funny movie. I never did see reindeer games?? Was he funny in that as well?

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Pacino

    by Horpis

    Ben Affleck and Al Pacino in Meet the Parents!! My god me and the whole clan sat down to watch that one. I usually don't let the young ones watch these types of movies but I made an exception.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Preists

    by Horpis

    Didn't Pacino play a priest in Sleepwalkers?? I don't recall if he was a gay priest but I'm pretty sure his hands were near some young mans mouth.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Yahoo Serious

    by Horpis

    You know who else I thought was funny as hell was Yahoo Serious. I used to watch him all the time while I was in college. Has he done anything lately?

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 10:26 p.m. CST

    No Way!!

    by Horpis

    Yahoo Serious AND Pauly Shore in ONE movie!! Heavens to Betsy!

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Weasel??

    by Horpis

    Weasel huh? I don't get the connection but I am a big fan of James Cameron and that boat thing he did I think it was called The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Yes he did

    by Horpis

    Yes he did. In fact it was a brillant little piece called "Slamming Granny in the Fanny"

  • Oct. 25, 2002, 10:43 p.m. CST

    hello!!

    by Horpis

    Hell you can download it at the George Lucas site!

  • Oct. 26, 2002, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Horpis and OriginalScoobX.

    by SpawnOfMelkor

    Please go to the chatrooms. Or the forums. Just go.

  • Oct. 26, 2002, 1:30 a.m. CST

    RE: PACINO IN MEET THE PARENTS??

    by DeNiro_Pacino

    Originalskoobx, Pacino and Affleck were not in Meet the Parents....You are thinking of Robert De Niro and Ben Stiller. Don`t know if you were serious or not, if not then didnt catch the sarcasm... sorry. And yes they are in the works for the sequel called "Meet the Fockers"

  • well...everytime we go see a movie we are under any influences. even if we try to avoid every minor spoiler, don`t know anyone of the crew, didn`t visit the set or whatelse. you mention anyhow under what circumstances you watched the film or what relationship you have towards it. you are HARRY KNOWLES....a harry knowles can od it...when he wants. **i think i`m starting to write bullshit. **sigh** ...i guess it

  • Oct. 26, 2002, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Banderas, Depp, Dafoe, Rourke, Iglesias

    by Vid Store Clerk

    Iglesias? IGLESIAS? -www.operationsombrero.com

  • Oct. 26, 2002, 8:28 p.m. CST

    OWEN WILSON HAS TO PLAY THE GREATEST AMERICAN HERO

    by postboy

    OWEN WILSON HAS TO PLAY THE GREATEST AMERICAN HERO