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Tidbits From The London Effects & Animation Festival! TWO TOWERS, SPIDER-MAN 2 & 3, WALLACE & GROMIT, Nude Yoda'!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Some cool little odds and ends here, and, yes, we’re finally running the links to the amazing new Wallace & Gromit short films that are online.
Hi Harry,
I thought I’d drop you a note on a few interesting things I found out last week, while walking the floor of the London Effects and Animation Festival. There were a number of speakers and it was an excellent line up of luminaries from the special effects world. I was lucky enough to get to speak with most them in person and there were a number of interesting things I found out...
Lord of the Rings – The Two Towers
Managed to have a great chat with the Creature Technical Supervisor – Jason Schleifer whose was one of the animators of Gollum and all round nice guy. They had just handed over their final piece of work on the film (5th October) and it was now going into final editing where Peter Jackson will decide how to cut the end of the film.
One thing to note about Gollum is that his animation is about 70% hand animated and the rest motion capture. Andy Serkis was brought on to provide the performance for Gollum with motion capture but most of it was redone using keyframe animation in order for Gollum to be able to do the things that Mr Jackson wanted. There was a team of twelve animators working on Gollum each taking different shots.
I also enquired about Shelob since I hadn’t seen to much in the news about her and wondered how it was shaping up. The answer was that the model had been done but the animation hadn’t been started yet since the sequence is going into the next film.
Spiderman 2 & 3?
Had a great Keynote from Anthony LaMolinara where he was talking about the future of digital film, as far as Sony are concerned Digital is the future and we could expect Spiderman 3 to be shot digitally.
He also talked about the future of computer graphics and mentioned that they were looking at using a technique called sub-surface scattering for the rendering of Spiderman 2 – this is where a surface rendered based on the material’s properties so that items with translucent qualities to them (like skin, leaves, liquid) can be rendered properly there’s a nice description with pretty pictures in this article.
I also asked Spencer Cook - Lead Animator of Spiderman what he had learned from doing the first film and how it would affect his work on the next film. His answer was a little cagey but the gist of it was that the first film Peter Parker was meant to be learning and by the second film he is much more confident. So he will be much closer in movement style to the Spidey we all know and love. So expect to see him striking a few more of the classic comic book poses next time he’s swinging around.
Wallace and Gromit
Managed to have a short chat with one of the directors at Aardman who is mostly involved with CG there and I was able to find out what the state of their current film projects were. The Hare and the Tortoise is currently being rewritten, another project (which he didn’t know the title of) is in pre-production (I think) and finaly, their greatest creations have at last stepped under the lights again as the Wallace and Gromit feature film has begun filming. I had originally asked about the Great Vegetable Plot but he didn’t think it was called that anymore.
In the meantime to keep you sated - Aardman have begun releasing 10 new animations, only available online, called Wallace and Gromit’s Cracking Contraptions.
You can get the first one "Soccermatic" in glorious Quicktime at The Official Wallace and Gromit site.
Or download it directly RIGHT HERE!!
Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Preston.
P.S. Oh yeah forgot to mention that Arlene Rapkin of Industrial Light and Magic was demonstrating the digital animated cloth technology for the Hulk. Unfortunately, while she couldn't show the big green guy bursting out of his clothes she did have a small green one. Yoda naked is not a pretty sight!On the LORD OF THE RINGS: FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING EXTENDED EDITION disc, there’s a great documentary about WETA Digital, and there’s quite a bit of footage of the nude Cave Troll, complete with hanging dingus. It’s quite funny, but I don’t know if I want the same sort of image of Yoda, who I like so much, bouncing around my head...
"Moriarty" out.
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Tolkien would be pleased!
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nuff said
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You see, it gets better! Eat your heart out George Lucas, the new Superman has the ultimate come back to beat down all naysayers!
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Man, TT will be so awesome! That shot of treebeard, or some ent in the trailer looks amazing... I will be first in line for this movie, for sure! And my extended dvd collectors special is already paid for, which looks sweet two! Its a LOTR winter folks... besides for those Two huge dvds... Spidey and AOTC... great winter to be a movie fan.
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Don't ask me how I know that.
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...they spend too long in Lothlorien and the bits in Bree seem rushed. Nude cave trolls? (Raises hand) Question: if Sauron makes all of his evil creatures himself in Jacksonovision, what does the troll need a dingus for? Or do I really want to know?
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http://www.theonion.com/onion3829/yodas_penis.html
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I've been trying for days to communicate, in vain. Not that I have much to contribute, except that "Master of Middle Earth" is well worth reading, and is my favorite of the essays-on-Tolkien books so far encountered. However, I haven't read it since last winter, so no one quiz me on it. Right now I'm re-reading "Forsyte Saga," which will take a while. (Yes, something non-Tolkien.) ***And I, too, have entered the contest. Are they only awarding ONE ticket to the big screen showing per winner? I'm supposed to talk someone into driving me to L.A. and they can't even get in the door? Or else spend a couple of hundred dollars on train, cab and hotel room so I can take advantage of the "free" ticket? Not that I wouldn't, of course. So this proves there is or will be a version that is suitable for large-screen distribution - AND THEY'RE NOT DOING IT? Why?????
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This guy uses MAYA as an example of a pricey package. Hmmm. Maya's only $1999. That's frelling cheap compared to say, XSI (at over $12,000) which I might add is Maya's ONLY close competitor. What else are you going to use for movie quality special effects? 3D Studio? Lightwave? ...might as well use Bryce and Poser while you're at it too.
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My "Arms of the Fellowship" plaque has arrived! Unfortunately, it seems I must dust around it after all, because not only is there no wall mount, but it weights about as much as a small cast-iron skillet and could do some serious damage if wielded as a weapon itself. It does sit very nicely on its rest. Strictly speaking, it is not the Arms of the Fellowship, but only that of Frodo (Sting sheathed and unsheathed), Gandalf (sword and staff, with a neat miniature crystal in the staff) and Aragorn (Shards of Narsil, assembled in sword shape), but it is, as we say in California, way cool.... I do not have the funds or the shelf space to continue my "Arms of..." collection, but this has the coolest stuff, unless you are into poncy elves.
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What
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Could i get a copy of the system maintenance tb? My email address works. Hello everybody. just two more hours before the trailer downloads and i can finally watch it!
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If anyone else wants it send a clearly marked e-mail to joym16@hotmail.com.
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methinks we are talking of two different trolls. The cave troll is clothed (though it could've gone through an unclothed version), but at least the "Art of the Fellowship of the Ring" book shows the naked troll, and it's one of the three stone trolls. Which brings up the issue of the hobbits making camp right under them... Hmm, wouldn't necessarily want to wake up and see THAT hanging right above me.
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I was about to take a sledge to this machine the last two days. If it were just this site that was being rude I'd'a figured it all out and cut my losses quicker, but there was certain other technical problems all over the place I was running into. What drove me up the wall was everything going reeeeal smoove right up until I'd click on the Post button. Then 10 minutes of whirring noises before getting dumped. Had three longish, completely different posts for the last TB, ranging from Life in Sniper Country to why even though Ingold is the HERO of LOTR it's really all about me, and I couldn't know if any of em got posted at all, or triple-posted, or what. (Looking now I see that all my bouneous wit & wisdom is but vapor.) Tres frustrating, I shan't even try again with em. New board, out with the old >sniffle<. *** Now then. I gotta say, "hung like a cave troll" just doesn't have the same ring [no pun intended] [no, really, I swear] as "hung like a Lurtz." I will say, however, that "hung like Yoda" will now enter my regular repertoire of locker-room-level insults.
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Oct 23, 2002 1:02:36 PM CDT
Naked Cave Troll to appear in Playgirl Magazine's November Issue
by supergirl
Can we say that the Naked Cave Troll idea got shafted so to speak? I'll tell ya, if they did use the denuded Troll I don't think it would be that chain he'd be swinging around. It makes me shudder just thinking of Legolas' means of getting onto the Troll's back as well. *shudders*
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Just when you can read the talkback, it won't let you post.... Well, it's good to know I can share the joy when I win my pass to the SEV big screen showing. Pallando, always Control C what you write before you hit "Post," if you think it's worth sharing at all - saves lots of frustration, as I learned the hard way. **I'm thinking that I would NOT like to use a troll's old campsite. **In just two weeks and two hours, the SEV will be in my hands! Though it'll be another five hours before I can watch it....
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Yesterday everything was going so well when suddenly BAM!
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i'd rather not see * special extended version * of cave troll's hammer
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Oct 23, 2002 4:14:56 PM CDT
Of course, doesn't mean this one's gonna make it, does it...
by pallando blue
Nothing really lost in my lost posts except my time in doin' em, which is what pissed me off more'n anything. I could READ what folx were writing, but everything froze when I tried to respond. Specifically, guess I mentioned above morG's query on Sniper Land, and his attempt to co-opt LOTR to his own ego (and Ingold's subsequent and righteous fury). There were one or two other bits and bobs, to steal from another playing at wizard, more amazing not for any actual merit but in their being genuinely contextual and not just rude non sequiturism as I've been stuck doing lately. What wif me work 'n all not lettin me actually READ much lately. *** Oh yeh, I remember one bit. After all my talking it up, forgot to mention (last week) that there's just no way I coulda done BNAT this year. Too much other holiday travel on the radar, so I didn't even submit an Why Me essay. Haven't even had the heart to check the links for updates. Sigh. Ah well, I can wait the 4 more days until the Official Premiere of T2T (I still got that hunch Harry's gettin' it) with the rest of you. Or rather, MOST of you, eh elanor? Hrmph! *** In Other Old News, JAYZUS Miami, Wide Left One?? ...And veeeery much looking forward to FSU's dismantling of those bastard Irish. (No offense intended toward anyone of actual Irish descent.) Doing a definitive, kick-arse Samwise Gamgee is pretty much the only way I'd ever be able to fully forgive Sean Astin for "Ruuuudy!" Not too shabby so far, but with that Notre Dame recruitment movie he dug himself one damn big hole. He's got 2 movies to go. I'm pulling for him. Heck, we all are. He's the People's Favorite, c'mon! In fact, one could say there's even a direct parallel, between a solid actor who made one horrible [horrible, horrible] career decision and needs that One Great Role common sense would dictate is beyond his ability, and the young undersized student who wishes more than anything to be a linebacker for the Notre Dame Fighting Irish... Who can't root for that! Ruudy! Ruuu-->coughhackwheeze< I mean, Astin! Astin! Astin! [the stadium takes up the cheer...] *** Okay, that's quite enough stream of consciousness for one day. For one week, perhaps. Or a month. I daren't go back and read. Now then, to see if this gets posted...... [click]
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Suddenly, you can't turn on the TV without seeing a Harry Potter promo of some kind, and where is TTT? There are books coming out in November, a soundtrack in December... You'd think we'd start getting a few promotions, a little more information on amazon, SOMETHING. Even if we can't buy the soundtrack for another six or seven weeks, they must know the tracks that will be included and could share. Or, how about a shot of Frodo and Sam, doing something other than crawling down rocks, or Faramir, doing something other than standing in the mist? Or, I don't know.... ANYTHING we haven't already seen. I'd even settle for a tacky fast-food tie-in, if they'd just show us a quick clip of something new. Or something old. My vote, however, would be something other than the assault on Helm's Deep. Ultra cool as I'm sure it will be, I want dialogue and close-ups.
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Seen the trailer and 'm happy. okay, it's just on the computer screen, and most people have already seen it, but i didn't have to sit through a horror movie for it, and that's all that matters. I have no doubt now, sean astin makes a brilliant samwise!
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I have a hard time imagining anyone more perfect than Sean Astin in the part, though I haven't seen "Rudy" or, for that matter, anything else from which I remember him, so I'm not biased that way. As far as I'm concerned, he's Sam, period. Funny thing, though, even though I've seen and enjoyed Elijah Wood in any number of other parts, none of that crosses over into Frodo, either. Even with all the clips of him stumbling from his trailer at dawn or getting his feet glued on, I never see anything on screen but Frodo; in fact, by now, the only POSSIBLE Frodo. (Does make you wonder who they would have fallen back on, if Elijah hadn't sent that tape... though I think the hand of providence was at work there.) The only real question mark, for me, remains Faramir. Can he possibly come up to expectation? And if so, there be swoons ahead.
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According to TORN, there is going to be a one-hour special behind the scenes of TTT on The WB (network)at 8 p.m. December 4, similar to the one on Fox last year. You can read the details over there. My calendar is already marked.
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Good job for him that he's good at being Sam - I owe him a world of pain for "California Man", which my strange best friend insisted I watch last time I saw her. She's got a Brendan Fraser thing going on.
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Hmmmmm
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Oct 24, 2002 10:08:22 AM CDT
Hey yeah, where's the rest of my crappy fast-food tie-ins!
by pallando blue
While I never collected the plastic toys ("Complete the Ring!" remember?), last year my older brother had a fun time birthday-gifting me with the complete set of all 4 Burger King glowing-base goblets. And we both fully expected he would be able to continue the chintzy tradition for two more years! I want the full set of 12, whatever they might have been, dammit! Still got your choice of Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gimli, Legolas, Gollum, Saruman, Eowyn, Faramir, Eomer, Theoden, and Denethor to choose from! But now not even the complete Fellowship (in glowing-base goblet form)? It's gonna be a sad, dark birthday this year. Ooooh, THANK YOU PJ, thank you soooo muuuuch for making a movie of such high quality it elevated its status right out of its own cheesy promotional campaigns! Damn-ned Oscars! They're only yours by happenchance! ...CURSE YOU, AND ALL THE AWARD SHOWS! [stumbles] >gurgles< PJ... PJ? What... what have I done..? No! Wait, PJ! A madness took me! Come back! Forgive me! Come baaaaack! [scenes added in Spring reshoots] "This lembas fills, but don't rightly satisfy, if you get me, Mister Frodo." "I know, Sam. What I wouldn't give for a juicy, frame-broiled Whopper(R) and an ice-cold Dr. Pepper(TM)." "Oooh, don't say such things, Mister Frodo! ...Are you going to finish those onion rings?" [Frodo draws Sting] "The rings are mine, you can't have them! Back, get back, you THIEF!" "Oh, no, Mister Frodo, the crispy delicious Burger King(R) rings are taking hold of you...!!" [wipe cut to Helm's Deep] "Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the meal that was costly? They have passed like rain on the mountains, like wind in the meadow. The prices come down in the West, behind the 99-Cent BK Value Menu, into shadow..."
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Welp, morG, that there's been life in Sniper Country. For some folx, at least. Me, I WANTED that bastard to wing me just as I hop in my car and floor it in the direction of the shot, catch up to that white van, ram the fecker off the road and collect me that cool half mil reward, not to mention selling the story rights for a few more. And I figure there oughta be time enough to hand out a few kicks to the head and kidney punches before the cops arrive... (You want to talk close to home? Seven Corners, the site of the shooting last week, is less than 10 minutes from my front door, I drive through there a few times a week and visit that Home Depot often.) So, no change in habits for yours truly though I saw it all around me. Case in point: Saturday morning in an auto mechanic's waiting room, among the half-dozen or so of us twiddling our thumbs was one lady who despite her game-face was obviously terrified of being out of the house, especially with her young son. Jittery, twitchy. There was a college football game on TV, and the kid asked Mom about it, quite confused. "Well, they're playing outside because they're in another state, far away from here." Son, satisfied, sez, "Oh, they're far away from here so it's SAFE." And when the service man told her her car was ready, she asked if he could pull it up as close as possible to the door, so she could get in and pull out as quickly as possible. I felt frustrated hearing someone living so completely in a state of fear, but I don't have children, so, what can I possibly have to say on the matter. And that was BEFORE the creep's message that threatened the children specifically. Saddening and maddening. I had no doubt the freak would get caught. As soon as he started communicating with the authorities in any manner, I gave it less than two weeks, and was right. Although I WOULD have liked a piece of him myself, first. The 500 grand's not even the half of it. (Oh all right, maybe one-half to two-thirds of it, but hey, the economy's been down.) *** As for the Last FOTR Screening, I believe I mentioned that LAST WEEK--as in BEFORE the weekend--and as soon as I heard about it! Not my fault you didn't read it til after! What, you need a written cream-colored embossed invitation, Sooty? Sorry, though, wish you coulda been there too (alla youse!), it was indeed a damn good time. I doubt anyone here really needs a full movie review, though, right? :) *** We all know Ingold doesn't need my help defending his high place in the LOTR saga. And I concede that maybe your doings in the past Ages had some small role in the doings at the end of the Third. But, I'm telling you, if you haven't figured out by now that it's really All About Me, then I suggest you go back to the Unfinished Tales and read, and reread, the three sentences (including the one in the endnotes) that mention me by name until you finally GET IT. 'Cause after all these years it's about time you did, dontcha think?
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...that was funny. You is a funny man. And morGy, alas, speaking of changing names of films to satiate the stupid (which I believe is going on on the HP TB) it was released as "California Man" here, seeing as we don't know where Encino is and could give less of a fuck, I suppose. At any rate, I must take issue with the characterization of Sean's character as Samwise. Quite the opposite. The guy in the film, whose name I forget, wishes to exploit prehistoric Brendan Fraser in order to be cool and get the girl of his dreams, despite the emotional turmoil this unleashes in said caveman. He sees the error of his ways, admittedly, but nevertheless he is not like Sam, who is more exploited than exploiting, if you follow me, seeing as the philosophy of Karl Marx doesn't appear to have made it as far as the Shire. DoT: Indeedily and yea verily, it was exactly the same last year - HP's little mug was all over the show, and FOTR appeared to be buried. HP always gets to flounce around in a rah-rah skirt first, and then you get LOTR. Kiddies first, then geeks, appears to be the order of the day in the movie world. Good news is that LOTR, being a book and Tolkien being a bit more adult and highbrow, usually gets more interesting articles and specials talking about it, and him.
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On screen and on the page, at least: "Lawrence of Arabia," "Glory," "Braveheart" - not to mention "Das Boot," though that isn't so much battles (give or take Gibraltar and the end) as physical and psychological buffeting.... No, it's not that I don't expect to fully enjoy every minute of Helm's Deep, but I DO think the spoilers have been top-heavy in that area. I would be curious, if they could do a poll of tickets sold, how many are that teen-and-20s male demographic. Especially as FOTR continued to play, it seemed I was more and more surrounded by women, including mothers and daughters.... I would overhear them talking about it in the restroom. One woman said when she wanted a special, relaxing day with her daughter, they would come down on Saturday and see FOTR. And I've already mentioned the female clerk at Suncoast, who couldn't be bothered until she bought a copy of the DVD for her mother, and had since seen it five times. Whether there's a huge untapped female audience out there, or whether it's now been tapped and will be flocking to TTT, I don't know. But I would really like to see the research.
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... here's the link to the Peter Jackson interview: www.orlandomultimedia.net/news2002/oct/news10222002c.html. Does this mean my magazine is in the mail?
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Just thought I'd let everyone know the tiny shards of Narsil are actually SHARP on my "Weapons of the Fellowship" plaque. Still don't know where I'm going to put it. Right now, I'm forced to hide it away, as my father is visiting this weekend, and he has a long history of saying things like, "You sure have a lot of CDs!" and generally implying that if I didn't fritter away all my money on books and movies, I could easily have afforded a house and car by now. I can just imagine what he'd say about tiny Shards of Narsil.... ***Without getting any specific spoilers, we're certainly getting a better idea of the flow of TTT: lots of cross-cutting during the battle, and only ten minutes to go after Helm's Deep.... Useless to speculate at this point, but I always liked the idea that Faramir clearly wasn't all that horribly tempted by the Ring, not just that he was better at overcoming temptation than Boromir. Maybe that's one of those things that has to be made more cinematic, but if (as I read Jackson) his spurning the Ring is the peak of the Frodo-and-Sam arc for this movie, then it doesn't sound as if will be quite as gentle a scene as in the book. And it doesn't sound as if they will make it to the Crossroads, but what do I know? (Actually, opening the next film with them AT the Crossroads might work very well; a tiny bit of hope before plunging into all that darkness.) ***Less than two weeks to go until the SEV! Let there be dancing in the streets, necking in the parlors and drinking in the saloons.
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...the interview with PJ. He says the battle of HD ends 10 minutes before the end of the film. He also says the film will end with Frodo and Sam. That means that... DA DA DA DAH! The confrontation between Gandalf and Saruman at Orthanc must take place in TROTK!!! This explains why Saruman appears in all 3 films! Chestnuts, chestnuts.
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...ok, I may be incorrect on the Saruman thing. See here http://www.geocities.com/cracker233/Jackson
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Harry's own little masterpiece is now safely in my posession. I gotta kick on reading all the names and various paraphernalia that now travels with the book. Moaters, please email me with your address so as I can be ready to forward the opus to you. *** I just finished watching FotR on my brand new dvd player & new tv (my 17 year old RCA console was just not up to the task). My mind would occaisionlly drift back to the hot points of contention that used to rage here. Like big headed Frodo, the drunk & dishevelled Gandalf, the moth, and Arwen at the Ford. Seems sorta silly now. My trust in PJ has been well rewarded. *** On an off-topic note - I was on my home today and noticed a sign at a local watering hole that read "Monday - Heavy Metal Karaoke Nite". Now I ask you, is there really a market for this? Are the head bangers of the world just DYING to belly on up to the mic? Should I start a new tradition at Club Angband? I'll let you, the Club members, decide.
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I throw myself at your feet, sir! How dare I offend your delicate senses? It was a momentary weakness I assure you. The heady Halloween-night-sugar-buzz-like feeling that occurs after finishing an early term paper allowed the overwhelming evil to escape. I
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Finally - some soundtrack information. It seems the deluxe edition has become essential, since it's only by buying the deluxe TTT soundtrack that we will get a SECOND disk with the enhanced FOTR music. (Why not simply a separate disk with the complete FOTR?) I suppose it saves a bit of money, but my brain likes things tidy: FOTR music in FOTR package. At least until it ALL comes out in some mega-disk set that I probably won't be able to afford.
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I don't know whether it was my ISP or a funky router somewhere or the site was down or at least on it's knees or what, but I haven't been able to load pages from this site for days! Anyone else in the same boat? Well the time away has been well spent upon a partial re-reading of "Master of Middle Earth". The first thing that strikes me is that it was written before the publication of the Silmarillion. It was published in 72, and so was probably written during the preceding 2 or three years. The author's insights into Tolkien's work are at times, IMO, astonishing, then taken in this context. This collection of essays was produced before the great glut of criticism, paparazzi, Tolkien Geeks, TSR, Dungeons and Dragons, Renaissance Faires, SCA, and the rest of the great tale's motley progeny. More simply put: I don't know how this guy figured out all the things he did without the Silmarillion as a reference. It lies chiefly I think, in the fact that he made very careful examinations of not only LOTR, with especial attention paid to the appendices it would seem, and The Hobbit, but also of JRRT
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Well? Oh, and morGy, I didn't move back into the suite at the Sauna, cos I never left it! It takes more than some whip-wielding bimbette to dislodge me.
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Finally get the page open and then
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Is anyone still here to read this? I tried posting yesterday and, not heeding my own advice, lost it into the void. Not that it was all that brilliant - just glad that Runelord has read and enjoyed "Master of Middle Earth," and further musings on the new soundtrack, as in: 1) when will we see the titles of the tracks, and 2) why must they package the deluxe version this way? So next year, will we get an extended TTT score with the deluxe ROTK (but not by itself)? And (this is a new one), I am starting to feel disgruntled even about all the versions of the film(s). If the reason for the three-hour FOTR is that New Line didn't think audiences would sit through more, they have surely been proven wrong. Therefore, why not release the next two at full length, with intermissions? (Yes, I know they will not be ready, but if it had been planned this way...) I feel extremely cheated that, unless I win a contest, it will be years, if ever, before I get to see the entire LOTR on the large screen, as it should be shown. Audiences used to routinely sit through three-plus hour epics. They also used to sit through double features (with newsreels) that easily ran that long. We are being held hostage by people with short attention spans!
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Amazon.com is now posting the TTT soundtracks for pre-order, but with no photo or track listing. The regular CC is $19 and the deluxe is $34 (so far, they aren't offering any discounts), so they are certainly not offering any great deal on piggybacking the expanded FOTR onto TTT. Alice, I hope you get the offer you want on the new job, because U.K. prices must be awful, at this rate. ***Update from this panicking Hamlet: easing gradually into new job duties, which continue to reinforce that this is not remotely where I want to go. Yet, want ads are even more depressing.
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Unfortunately there is more to it than just whether people are prepared to sit through such a long movie. Because ticket prices are the same no matter how long the movie is, if you had two films, one two hours long, the other three hours long, in one six hour period the two hour movie will make 50% more revenue than the three hour movie. So you can see that the longer the movie is, the less money it will make over a given period of time, even though the overhead costs remain the same.
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Yes, I understand the math. But then, ultimately, the box office of a film is the number of tickets sold during the run, not the take on a given day, and how much would that be affected? After the first weekend (and sometimes not even then) most screens play to partially-filled houses. In these days of multiplexes, surely most of the overhead is simply to keep the place heated or cooled and running, so the overhead would be constant because of all the other movies showing. Yes, you can get bigger numbers and sell more popcorn UP FRONT by cramming in as many as possible (and I know that's the goal). But, with a movie like this, over a six-month run or so, won't we all be buying a set number of tickets and sodas? If greed didn't rule, and considering that the first film has already made back the cost of all three, New Line COULD have afforded to go for full-length on the other two. But then, I am always boggled by multi-millionaires who think they can never have enough.
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