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Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab.
Several of you wrote to steer me over to Disney’s official site for TREASURE PLANET, where there’s a new trailer available in all sorts of formats. I downloaded the biggest Quicktime version and started it, and at first, I thought it was just the same trailer again.
Nope.
CLICK HERE TO CHECK OUT THE NEW TRAILER!!
Nice stuff, and I’m hearing pretty strong reaction from people who have seen the film. I hear Long John Silver is one of Glen Keane’s single best bits of character work, and that alone would get me into the theater, but I think overall, this looks like a more successful version of TITAN A.E., and I’m looking forward to seeing it in the theater as soon as possible. My only hesitation is the songs by Johnny Rzezanazniznnziznkizk of the Goo Goo Dolls, which sound like they’ll be the same sort of useless sonic wallpaper that Bryan Adams inflicted on SPIRIT earlier this year. But I’ll live with that if the film delivers.
"Moriarty" out.
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Hmmm this looks to be in the same quality of LILO and STITTCH, we hope. Anyway it seems that my dream of a disney anime with a title song by RED HOT CHILLI PEPPERS is still far away fro realisation.
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I was wondering when Disney was gonna do an animated version of this book, and I like what they've done with it. That robot sidekick has a couple pretty funny one-liners, so it should be worth checking out.
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Atlantis, bad as it was, at least didn't stoop to this post-Disney musical crutch. All we need is Jimmy N. Howard's orchestral score. And Titan A.E. is still grossly underrated. And why does that Frailty banner say "available September 17th"? It's friggin' OCTOBER! At least that awful S1m0ne banner was finally taken down...SIX WEEKS after the film tanked. [rolls eyes]
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1) Orange Aero milk chocolate bars back on sale in Canada. 2) SPIRITED AWAY. 3) TREASURE PLANET trailer before SPIRITED AWAY... I'm glad I'm not an Academy voter, because I'd have a very difficult time choosing between SPIRITED AWAY, LILO & STITCH (which I liked pretty much equally as much as SPIRITED AWAY, just in a different way) & TREASURE PLANET, in the event that those three are the films nominated, though TREASURE PLANET may prove to suck yet, though, unlike a lot of people here, I go to Disney films expecting the best.
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Oct 05, 2002 12:47:24 PM CDT
Johnny Rzezanazniznnziznkizk wants to be PAUL WESTERBERG--but h
by utellemstevedave
ASCAP regulations state that Westerberg's name MUST be mentioned anytime Rzezanazniznnziznkizk gets some press.
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Oct 05, 2002 12:52:29 PM CDT
I think they should do a live-action remake with Hulk Hogan as L
by chaffro
"Ooh arr, Jim Lad. Hoist up the Jolly and batten down the hatches, me brother."
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And it's just 'Rzeznik'. It's foreign, but really easy to spell if you try. This looks like Disney by-the-numbers. I see nothing in this trailer, am I alone in that?
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I have no idea how good the movie will be, but WOW that trailer is shiny. I expect lots of stoned college kids in attendence. And is it just me, or does it stylistically look a lot like Titan AE?
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Try the original Treasure Island. It kicks ass.
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...but I doubt anything we'll see in it would have been influenced specifically by TITAN A.E., simply because that film was released in the summer of 2000, and one of these A-list Disney projects takes, on average, 4 years to put together.
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is the one done back in 1990 starring Charlton Heston. But this one I'll be sure to see as it has it's own originality to it. If it had been a strait adaption I probably wouldn't see it because the original story has been done so many times.
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Titan AE was soooo terrible. I think the plot came out of one of those "Make your own movie" things in MAD magazine. A (young boy, widowed father, intelligent orangutan) discovers that his (ring, tattoo, health insurance card) is the secret to discovering (a new planet, the ultimate power, tighter buns in 30 days). But I think Treasure Planet will be much better. Disney cares. No, really, they do.
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Oct 05, 2002 3:14:47 PM CDT
This is so retarded... a pirate ship with sails flying in outer
by man_of_kerioth
Two birds with one stone.
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Ron Clements wrote the treatment for this back in the mid 80's. Jeffy the K hated pirate stories and sci-fi, so it was dead in the water for years. A fired Diz development exec ended up at Fox back in the early 90's when they were trying to jumpstart their traditional animation division. Same exec pitched a thinly disguised rip-off of Treasure Planet that eventually became "Planet Ice", later re-titled "Titan A.E."
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I saw this film this morning at a screening. The good news? The animation looks pretty stunning on an IMAX screen. The bad news? The film was pretty mediocre. My friend winced in pain throughout the film, but I was just not all that thrilled by the characters (although the cyborg Long John Silver was good). It felt like a rehash of Titan A.E., Atlantis and a dozen other live-action sci-fi films. If you do get the opportunity to check it out on an IMAX screen, do it. That experience alone was worth getting up at six am to get to the theater.
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The only great treasure island was the Japanese animated version from the early 80's. It was adult, realistic, exciting, terrifying, and full of emotion and characters you cared about. They made Long John Silver a very charismatic, charming, and handsome character. Then when you found ou that he was a pircate, you felt betrayed. I wish someone would remaster that series. Better yet, I wish they would release it in the Arabic dubbed version. The voices were very commanding...better than any garbage you see from Hollywood these days.
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Oct 05, 2002 7:45:32 PM CDT
I think it's great that CHAFFRO'S MOM finally showed up.
by the dude abides
I wonder if she punsihes her kid with the stone-cold stunner. (I said this once before, but it seems some jackass deleted my post. Not sure why. Guess we shouldn't talk about Chaffro's mom on here. But, hey, I'm always up for trying again.)
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So TITAN AE was a steal of this? Interesting. I did not like TITAN AE but my middle daughter obviously sees something in it. She keeps playing the video. As for the TP trailer, I agree with the Talkbacker who said nothing much appears to be going on. My youngest kid is an ATLANTIS fan, and I will admit I like what I have seen of that on video. Maybe someday I will catch the whole thing. That upcoming JONAH Veggie Tales flick looks like the real thing.
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that was the worst Disney since the 80's. Beautiful but empty. Long live Hunchback! And Titan A. E. was incredibly underrated. Bluth is simply cursed at the B.O.
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Oct 06, 2002 12:55:39 AM CDT
I don't get why you all just decide to sheepishly hate this
by theginger twit
And I sure as hell can't wait to hear JNH score... I garantee it'll be ten times better than HS two towers... or his really crap award winning FOTR. I'm serious!
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and Titan AE deserved to bomb. Terrible.
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and Titan AE deserved to bomb. Terrible.
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I just want to see either good book to film adaptations or some manner of original shit. This remake junk is just killing me. Oh, and Zombie Bruce Paltrow just made off with the rest of my Milky Way candy bar. Sonofabitch!
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You fools! Do you not realize there is already a version of Treasure Island commited to film? And best of all, it's got The Muppets! Yes, my friends. There can be no version of Treasure Island superior to Muppet Treasure Island! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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"Ice Planet" not "Planet Ice", I knew a guy from the Fox studio in Phoenix before it went under, but close enough.
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I saw the trailer for this film when I caught Spirited Away at the Neptune in Seattle a few weeks ago, and I have to say I was very impressed. The style of this alternate universe is amazing and I love the idea of a re-telling of a classic done in this way. The fact that Rzenik is doing the music just made me want to see it more...I don't see his stuff as soul-less like Harry does...the Goo Goo Dolls is one of the few bands that consistently puts out music that makes you FEEL something when you listen to it, and the little bits of the music their front man has done for this film that you hear in the trailer filled me with the same sense of awe and hope that all their other music did.
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okay, after watching the trailer I think it's safe to say that this is looking more like typical Disney fluff. Pirate ships in space? Please. Sure there's a certain poetry to it, but it's squandered in the few shots we're given. The poster gets it right, why not the movie? oh well, at least LJ Silver looks excellent. I was hoping for some real "Pirates of Dark Water" style, but it looks like the reimagining only half-took place. Anyone remember that cartoon? Fox show, I believe. It rocked back in the day when I was a teen.
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I saw the last trailer and I don't get it. They are in space? and they don't need space suits? and they fly around in wooden ships? What's the point of even put this thing is space if they aren't going to use the logic of what space is like? Are there space fish too? and space wind? Am I missing something? Were the ships in some big oxygen bubble or something that I didn't see?
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I worked for fox feature... it was "planet ice" but...close enough.
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Oct 06, 2002 7:17:45 PM CDT
Why do they call it Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Planet
by qwerty uiop
He didn't write it. Based on Treasure Island is ok, because it is. But "Treasure Planet" was not written by him. Trying to pass this crap off as literature, I think. Disney is EVIL. Run Away!
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Is Goo Goo Dolls that college rock crap running in the background? God, I'm glad I live in Europe and don't have to listen to music like that everytime I turn on the radio.
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Do you really think Treasure Planet, a disney cartoon, will be better than FOTR? Are you retarded or a professional ass kisser?
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Anyone who thinks the Goo-goo dolls make good music is part of the reason for America's cultural vacuum. They're the same people who think Saving Private Ryan was a brilliant drama and Dawson's Creek is good television. Shame on you!
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"the Goo Goo Dolls is one of the few bands that consistently puts out music that makes you FEEL something when you listen to it, and the little bits of the music their front man has done for this film that you hear in the trailer filled me with the same sense of awe and hope that all their other music did." -- Kuryakn. Feel something? You mean like... nauseated?
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...the Goo Goo Dolls used to be OK. Not great, but OK. I saw them in a tiny club years ago, long before what's his name cut his hair and turned into a mall hottie. Their version of "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man" is pretty swell. Now, however, they suck uncontrollably. And Westerberg himself said they sounded more like Soul Asylum than the 'mats. I have to agree. And this film looks like a goat blower to me...sorry, giving SPIRITED AWAY short shrift and promoting the Hell out of this is a joke. Oh goody, another squeaky clean, enormously white, charisma-free main character. Ever wonder why Disney usually gets middling-to-no-named talent for the main characters, but huge stars for the supporting cast? Because their central characters SUCK. LILO AND STITCH was a very rare exception, and that's one of the things that made it great. This looks like fermented camel ass.
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I can can see it now.. maybe the parot could help? Could be like Yiago (I think, er, from Aladdin... one of the few decent Disney flicks over the last ten years), couldn't possibly get any worse. Anyway, Treasure Planet looks like it could be a cool flick, but this IS Disney... and if it's as lame and uninteresting as Atlantis (which, by the trailers, at least shows much more promise), then it's already sunk, no pun attended. Maybe, just maybe, Disney will pull another rabbit out of their hat like Lilo % Stitch, here's hoping ten years of crap (with very few exceptions) isn't any indication of the next couple years, eh?
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Then how come the shirts said Ice Planet?
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Well I honestly don't understand why everyone's ripping on Goo Goo Dolls except that it's "hip" to be anti-pop. I love how all the fans of the "old-school" Goo Goo Dolls condemn the new style for its more mainstream target, and then the flocks of sheep trot along behind chanting their antipop mantras. Are the GGD overplayed? Cliched? Perhaps a little too catchy? Absolutely. But soulless? Check your pulse, people. Just once I'd like to hear whatever it is that Harry listens to that he thinks is so brilliant. Besides, a little pop flavor on the radio is nice once in a while - it would suck if everyone was still trying to be the next Nirvana.
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I'm anti-crap, personally. Sales and catchy tunes have nothing to do with that. The Goo-Goo Dolls have sucked since the beginning, much like The Dave Matthews band. Soulless crap.
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"Besides, a little pop flavor on the radio is nice once in a while" I mean, how can you tell whats good without having something incredibly mediocre and horrible to compare it against. And if when you say: "it would suck if everyone was still trying to be the next Nirvana." you are saying Nirvana was excellant, then I have to disagree. Its always a good idea for someone to try to be great. The true crime is being average and middle of the road.
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Glorious! Of all the descriptive phrases used on this site, I have to say that Pole's is the best I have seen so far. Game over, man...game over!
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harder than a Hanoi hooker with a mustache. I have never like drivel such as that. Fugazi, Hot Water Music and Clutch. Any of these bands worst song is better than the best Goo Goo Dolls attempt.
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"I love how all the fans of the "old-school" Goo Goo Dolls condemn the new style for its more mainstream target, and then the flocks of sheep trot along behind chanting their antipop mantras." *Sigh.* Y'know, not everything done in groups is automatically insincere. I'm really, really not trying to take away your enjoyment of TGGD. God knows we all have guilty and not so guilty pleasures. But why do people insist on acting like it's some sort of automatic brainless activity when they happen to agree with a lot of others about something? People think the Goo Goo Dolls suck now because...wait for it...maybe they think the Goo Goo Dolls suck now. Sure, you're gonna have your followers, but that's no judge of the initial opinion. Dude, I OWN SUPERTRAMP RECORDS. I HAVE NO ROOM TO BE A POSER ON THIS ONE. And I think the Goo Goo Dolls suck now. One man's opinion. Oh yes, and the camel ass is flattered.
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Women and sea men do not mix. "Old-school Goo Goo Dolls?" That's funny.
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Showing the trailer for this piece of crap before SPIRITED AWAY is an insult when a similar but better movie by Miyazaki is being sat upon by Disney (part of their arrangment with Studio Ghibli). LAPUTA:CASTLE IN THE SKY has wonderous flying machines, cool pirates, and a search for a lost treasure -- and no GooGoo Dolls! Along with "Treasure Island", Disney was likely pilfering from LAPUTA and CAPTAIN HARLOCK for this "re-imagined" stinkburger. Maybe I'm being too harsh but "PLANET" will be mediocre at best -- much like ATLANTIS -- to the *extreme*!!!
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