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Chuck Palahniuk speaks about his future with David Fincher and upon a screen near you!
Hey folks, Harry here... My proudest acheivement in blurbing history is inside that amazing FIGHT CLUB dvd, as the film has become one that has become increasingly poignant and brilliant and further misunderstood by unibrowed slope-headed neanderthals. Ahem. Anyways, as one from the generation that didn't write FIGHT CLUB off as "macho porn" I'm fascinated to see what is going to come from Fincher and Palahniuk's creative relationship. I had a 2 hour conversation about FIGHT CLUB over Thai food just 2 days ago. It never goes away and always accompanies spicy conversations! Here's the latest...
Hey guys,
I'm a student at CU in Boulder, CO. Last night I had a chance to go hear Chuck
Palahniuk (Fight Club, Survivor, etc.) speak at a local book store promoting
his new novel, Lullaby.
Hey gave out a few (possibly new?) tidbits about some film work he's involved
with:
-He and David Fincher are planning on teaming up on a film adaptation of Katie
Arnoldi's novel, "Chemical Pink." However, neither will be getting around to
the project for quite a while, with the other projects Fincher has in the works
and Palahniuk with two new books to come out next year, and already working on
a third! Plus, in Palahniuk's words, "First I have to take a screenwriting
course..."
-Aparently film adaptions for every single one of his books is in some stage of
pre-production at present. This means in the near future, we could be seeing
any combination of Invisible Monsters, Choke, and/or Lullaby hitting theaters
pretty soon here. He spoke quite about about wanting to stay a distance away
from the movie projects based on his works (after his big, fat paycheck, of
course) because he wants to be "surprised" by what he sees in theaters.
Unfortunately, Palahniuk reiterated the unfortunate fact that it looks like
Survivor won't be happening anytime soon. But he seemed to have quite a bit of
hope and faith for the project...
-This is the bit I found most interesting: Palahniuk had a bit to say about
that (cringe) Fred Durst film project, which is titled "Runt" now. (I guess it
used to be called "Life Without Joe"?) Well, aparently, David Fincher is
actually COACHING Durst through the screenwriting proccess! Now this brings up
a few points.
1. So, it wasn't just that Durst had a few conversations with
Fincher, as was previously believed. David Fincher is actually a big part
behind the scenes on this project.
2. Damn, David Fincher is onboard? Maybe
there's hope after all... haha... just kidding... and
3. Since when has Durst
been WRITING the project? I thought he was just directing? I smell doom...
and cookies...
All in all, Chucky P was a great speaker. There was much fun to be had, what
with the tiaras and crucifixes and all. And man, Palahniuk has some
interesting stories about Vicadin...
So if you ever need a body to cover business up in the Coloradan end of things,
drop a line my way,
GROOB
P.S. I saw the Wilco movie "I'm Trying to Break Your Heart" a few weeks ago. I
heard a little bit on this docu a few months ago here at AICN, but nothing
since. Has anyone seen it? Need a review?Absolutely -- harry
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Eminem I always knew could act because his entire persona is an act to sell records, it's obvious.. but Durst, that guy just comes off as a thug asshole who just is in the job to fuck women and get drunk. Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm jealous as hell of the motherfucker, but that doesn't mean he can write or direct. Let's hope for the best, Fight Club is my favorite movie.
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you'll probably need an extra ass
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Durst has no talent AT ALL. His vocals are lazy and predictable. His whiney-bitch voice is just plain irritating and as for the supposed "gruff" vocals?? lol...come on man...you'd get away with it if no had heard of Phil Anselmo.....anyway..."Runt" will suck "Cunt"....and whatever Fincher does I'll probably watch...except "Runt" of course....coz that'll be shit...probably.
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Sep 27, 2002 8:45:48 AM CDT
What the FUCK is a recording artist (and I use that term loosely
by wardog
And especially a Palahniuk story? Little shit should stick with rap. Oh well, maybe the studio will take it away from him and hand it completely over to Fincher. BTW, I LOVED Fight Club. Except for the stupid climax where our hero shoots himself in his fucking MOUTH! GOD, don't moviemakers (or Palahniuk) know a DAMN THING about the human anatomy??? The guy should have been killed or at the very least rendered unconcious from the pain!!! JEEZUS!
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Sep 27, 2002 9:31:57 AM CDT
Unibrowed slope-headed neanderthals? That's the big fan bas
by cutter's way
Or is it underweight/overweight adult toy collectors who've never been in a real fight before? Or maybe self-hating latent homosexuals? Or perhaps just idiots who get their revolutionary/counter-revolutionary philosophy from movie stars and music video directors?
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I read the book a few years ago, and if people think that there's an eerie parallel between what happened last September and the book, THEY'RE WRONG!!! The book has the main character hijacking a plane, but letting all the passengers go and the pilots remain onboard. They then parachute out, on the character's urging, after the plane gets to a cruising altitude. He then puts the plane on auto-pilot and proceeds to tell his story into the recorder. The plane is going to crash into "somewhere in the Austrailian outback". So, unless there's some kind of terrorist plot against the Aborigines that I don't know about, I see nothing "taboo" about this movie. Also, Ed Norton should play the lead character again. Unfortunately, everyone would think it was "Fight Club - Part 2" and complain because Brad Pitt wasn't in it. Anyways, make the movie, 'k?
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You apparently missed the point of the movie. The entire thing was about showing the huge gaping flaws in Tyler's philosophy, not endorsing it. It's satire. Say it with me, "Sat-eye-er," good.
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Fuck you ya uppity pretentious muckracker. Is your ego sufficiently stroked now that you have categorized all that disagree with you into nice digestable pigeon holes? How can it be stupid to state a preference? Besides, Fight Club was a black comedy that rang true to some, like all good satire does - I can't stand small minded pricks like you who need to resort to condescending those that have a different opinion than yours - and making a comment like "If you like Fight Club, it means you're stupid" isn't even pseudo-intelligent, its completely dismissable, its so laughably dumb. Learn how to make an arguement, or leave the talking to others, Fuckwad.
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The problem with the "point" of the movie is that there isn't one. The film's attempt at social critique is hopelessly muddled due to the fact that the film wants it both ways. Note that I put in my post revolutionary/counter-revolutionary for that very reason. Either the film advocates cultural fascism and glorifies brown-shirt thuggery or it's about the futility of revolt and denounces property damage as the most heinous crime (which just makes Fight Club a venal, back-door pro-corporate propaganda tool). Let's not even get into the casual, virulent misogyny on display.
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You're too fucking fat, fat man. And your tits are too big.
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Yes, such a angry boy you are! Fight Club really speaks to you, I bet. I'll also wager that you'd like to go back to junior high and show those bullies you're not afraid anymore. They're not s-s-so t-t-t-tough, right? With a name like Weedy McSmokey, I don't exactly feel intellectually threatened, a little bored maybe. Cussing like a sailor in a whorehouse is always fun, but not the best tactic for meaningful, or even respectable, debate. Go back to jerking yourself off after a bong hit, genius.
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Sep 27, 2002 11:46:06 AM CDT
Too bad about Survivor, but I agree with the whole religious cul
by empyreal0
I could see them making Invisible Monsters the most easily - I think it lends itself by FAR the best into an actual movie script. It's basically a road movie with the BEST payoff of any of Chuck's books after Fight Club. Survivor would be nice, but very difficult to connect with in movie form. The phone calls, you know, the main character's hotline would ABSOLUTELY look like Fight Club 2. Nobody would be able to see it as any different, and the genius of Palahniuk would be dismissed far too easily. Religious cults, plan hijackings, etc, I don't think American's ready for it yet. I'll be damned, though, if the main character's physical change throughout the story wouldn't make something wonderful to behold on-screen with all the wonderfully-written satire behind it. If anything, if Survivor were made it would have to be done in a "Being John Malkovich" sort of bizarre surreal world. Choke would likewise be difficult to make, especially since the payoff is akward (and reeks of being tossed aside and rekindled after Survivor), but the sexual-themed humor would do VERY well in movie form. Anyway, I'm looking forward to any Palahiuk movies coming out in the future. Fight Club was the shit, and a TOTAL surprise after the hyper-jock testosterone orgy it appeared to be in the trailers. Here's to the greatest surprise ending of all time.
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I don't think the film wants it both ways at all. To me it's pretty clearly NOT pro-fascism, and I don't think it's saying the monkeys' revolt was necessarily futile, just misguided and overly violent. I'm really not sure what you mean when you call it "pro-corporate propaganda." I think part of the strength of the movie is that it doesn't try to preach a "correct" philosophy, it leaves us wondering where Norton's character is going from here. I think one of the main goals of the filmmakers was just to get people to think, and judging from the fact that we're still talking about it, I'd say they succeeded in that much at least. And let's not forget that it's also meant to be funny, and in my opinion at least, it succeeded there too.
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I don't expect movies to do any thinking, in fact. I like when filmmakers do a little thinking, however. You say that "the truth lies somewhere in the middle". Okay. What truth? If you're looking for truth in a commercially produced motion picture, perhaps you'd be better served by getting out of the living room or, if that's too big a first step, staying in the living room and opening a philosophical text. If you like the movie, fine. Like it, hell, love it. But don't be handing me this truth shit, jack. Getting all flustered about some text written by a stranger makes you look easily threatened and greatly informs your love of a film like Fight Club.
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You said: "nevermind the fact that the whole movie is going on inside the narrator's head, not in reality (that whole fly-through his brain matter during the opening credits should've given you a clue) -- unless you think that people actually can fight their imaginary friends in real life." I disagree, the story did take place in the real world. Only Tyler Durden is imaginary.
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Fight Club was many things: 1) it was a backlash against the hyper-sensitive political correctness of the 90's - this would account for the alleged "mysogyny" (although, as I understood it, Marla hated her life and wanted to be treated like a whore because at least that meant she special in SOME sense). 2) It was a glimpse into the malaise and alienation of the modern man, symptomatic of the general meaninglessness of the drudgery of modern (post-modern?) life. In this sense, it was an updated form of Jean Paul Sartre's "Nausea", following the same sort of formula. 3) It was a warning about the extremism that Palahniuk rightly foresaw in the coming years, resulting from the above-described meaninglessness of human existence in the modern day (and the general tendancy for alienation and boredom to result in anti-social behavior) being fueled by the widening gap between the haves and the have-nots. Fight Club was about the growing self-hate in society becoming a cancer. 4) Lastly, Fight Club was a story told through a schizophrenic, using mental illness as the means by which the main character initially finds meaning in life. What is important to realize, is that the narrator is on his way to recovery at the end. While irreparable damage has been done, the main character knows that what he did was wrong, making Fight Club a modern man's tragedy (in the Shakespearean sense of the word.) It's a story of things going wrong, with a moral left for YOU to figure out.
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He is making a movie about the skaters from the seventies that was already covered so well by one of the actual guys who directed "Dogtown and Z-Boys". It is out on DVD now.
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Y'know, those philosophical texts you learn from are commercially produced, too. What makes the message in Fight Club less valid than that presented in old philosophy books? I think Chuck P speaks to me better than a lot of old dead folks.
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I was talking in terms of the general form of the story being easily translatable to the screen, and Palahiuk's little narrative devices (flash, show me happy!) being, likewise, VERY easily translatable into a visual medium with equal or greater impact. I believe Invisible Monsters, being a satire on America's obsession with beauty, would ring true to a wider audience. Any sufficiently competent director can control the extent to which it would veer off into Rocky Horror "sexual circus" territory. I think Fincher could pull it off, don't you?
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When you find a sixty-million dollar treatise with a thirty-million dollar advertising campaign behind it, I'll eat my hat. You see? Good try, though.
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I never said I DIDN'T read old philosophy texts. Why do you assume that you're smarter than everyone else? I just think Fight Club is a great book. It makes me think and it makes me laugh. I read the classics, I read the new stuff. I just like to read.
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Durst has directed before. A number of times. They're called music videos and a lot of his work has been pretty good. And before you go mocking music video directors, please remember that Fincher started out as a music video director (my favorite being "Janie's Got A Gun"). As for his writing skills, that's what I'm afraid of. And, by the way, Fight Club was genius. Absolute genius.
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You said, "commercially produced". I said that all media is commercially produced. Where did you prove me wrong? And does this mean your new point is that the value of someone's work is inversely proportional (hope i got that phrase right) to how much money they make creating it?
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Don't waste time wrestling with a pig...you just get dirty and the pig LOVES it. Cutter's obviously just a jackass. If he was half as intelligent and well-read as he purports to be, he would have found a way to express his discontent with Fight Club without insulting everyone personally who happens to like it.
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Sep 27, 2002 1:04:01 PM CDT
"Please fasten your seatbelt as we begin our terminal descent in
by han ol' buddy
Who's to say what America's ready for? This movie doesn't have terrorists, it doesn't have planes crashing into buildings, it doesn't even have explosions. I for one am glad that the good shows out there aren't coddling us anymore. Scenes and quotes from recent Sopranos shows come to mind. What you have in Survivor is a great story, being told from the ending to the beginning (very Memento-esque), a suicide religious cult whose only surviving member is thrust into the limelight and magically transformed bycommercial amd marketing people into the opposite of what he was, a woman named Fertility, Tender's case worker, a huge garbage dump of pornography, travelling cross-country in pre-fab homes on semi-trailers, etc. This movie screams out to be made. "America" can take it. Believe me.
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I jumped in this thread after reading one of Cutter's later posts. I didn't realize at first that he was one of the hate-spewers, I thought he might be a guy looking for intelligent discussion. I like the pig comment, too. Very Clever. How's that working out for you? ;)
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...but instead he made a typical, whiny TB post with a pathetic excuse for a threat that he could never back up. Par for the course.
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It's very amusing to me that those who are so sensitive about being insulted are the first to insult others. My initial post was a vitriolic response to Harry's attack on those who don't like Fight Club. Others jumped at my post with lame-ass insults thereafter and I responded in kind. I never attacked another Talk Backer without provocation. Unlike yourself. But I will give as good as I get. Hey, if you step into the cross-fire, you might get clipped. As for pigs - it takes one to know one so don't get all huffy because your ego got bruised. Nobody's getting hurt here.
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Sorry if you thought I was dissing the classics with my use of "dead". With that word (rather than "timeless"), I was trying to make the point you just did, that Chuck is relevant to me today because we're men from the same generation. We're both "still kicking" at the same time, in the same country. That's why I like him. And that connection is what makes him MOST relevant to me. Relevant doesn't just mean good, it means "applying to the case at hand". And my case is in America 2002.
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I never even implied that any movie could be defended by pulling out the word "satire." There is definitely such a thing as bad satire, and there are plenty of movies both good and bad that don't fit into the category. I happen to think that Fight Club is good satire. If you disagree, fine, but don't try to imply that I'm an idiot for my opinion.
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Fight Club certainly seems to speak to you - you seem confident in your assumptions about what everyone else thinks about it. But your conclusions about it shouldn't provide you with such comfort. What's so groundbreaking about its subject matter? Nothing - life is without meaning, people are pissed and there is a need to engage the primal self. Big deal, been discussed and written about 100 times - why does this make the movie bad? - it wasn't masquerading as some kind of answer to any reasoned viewer, and it doesn't make it any less of a film. You sure seem to have reached a multitude of conclusions from it, not the least of which is that people who express a preference to enjoy it are only fooling themselves and treating it as groundbreaking for its ideas, instead of the fact that its tightly put together with likeable characters and engages the viewer for its entire running time - did it insult you intellectually? Do you assume that anyone with half a brain should hate this movie? Well, then who's in the worse position - those that seek their answers from Hollywood movies, or those that assume that liking a film puts them in the former category? Assuming that liking a film equates to agreeing with its thematic message is foolhardy, and ultimately only serves to stunt your own intellectual growth - and I can't take a bong hit and jerk off - I'm at work, man.
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Cutter's Way, I'd be a little more careful when poking fun at the name's of others. Cutter's Way is the name of a film that erred on the side of Sucking. You didn't like Fight Club? Good for you. No one cares. You've made a splash in the talkback. Tremendous. I understand that you like arguing for the sake of it, so I won't get into it with you. I take great satisfaction in knowing that your quick wit and your penchant for hitting back is, while terribly misguided, available to read. A worthy Friday afternoon diversion. You might take this to heart; there are the cats and there is the ball of yarn. You, CW, are that ball of yarn. "The purpose of art is not to reflect society, but to subvert it."
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Sep 27, 2002 3:29:20 PM CDT
I liked Fight Club...but I don't think that people who didn&
by sod off baldric
I just think that they have different tastes than I do...and that's okay. Variety is the spice of life, and all that. Now c'mon, guys...lay off of Cutter. He didn't like the same movie that you did. Big deal. Life goes on. Remember...Harry started the name-calling with that whole "slope-browed neanerthals" comment. Now can we please just chill out. Please? =]
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You know, I've read over a thousand novels. And out of all those books, I've never actually fallen in love with a female character that I could only envision in my head. But that psychic redhead Fertility Hollis haunts me ever since I've read that book. God, I don't know what's worse, falling in love with someone unobtainable, or falling in love with someone who doesn't exist.
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Be careful? Or what? I'll get arrested by 20th Century Fox? You take these Talk Backs way too seriously. Your views on Cutter's Way are quite compelling. Your use the term "suckage" to describe anything reveals all I need to know about you. Boooooring.
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I fell for it, my mistake (damn, Proscia/Caputi got me the other day too). Silly me for thinking that he might have had a point - its the line "you used the term suckage which reveals all I need to know about you" - no one above tenth grade believes something like that.
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What the fuck is Fincher thinking!?!!
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Because I didn't answer his nonsensical ramblings. Calling someone's post tenth grade is SO fourth grade. Read my posts, Weedy, I can't stand to repeat myself. As for this troll business, I recall you butting your nose in and calling me fucker and such when I didn't provoke you. You're the troll, I'm just the billy goat on the bridge kicking your ass back into the swamp. Or something.
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rocks. any of you FIGHT CLUB haters actually read the book? didn't think so. as far as philosophy, i've read hegel, plato, leibnitz, hobbes, rousseau, kant, schopenhauer, voltaire, descarte, and neitzsche. i even suffered thru BEING AND NOTHINGNESS (god what a waste of time), and altho i am glad that i took the time, the only ones i will ever read again are voltaire and neitzsche. most of them DON'T pass the test of time (just because philosophy professors say they do doesn't make it true). many of their basic assumptions were based on the flawed science of the day, and while the logic and reason they utilized were sound, their conclusions were not. i will definitely read chuck's works again, as they are if nothing else, funny as hell. i look forward to seeing any of his books adapted, as long as they are at least as faithful to the book as FIGHT CLUB. CHOKE would be good. having said all this without insulting anyone, i must reluctantly point out that most of the guys i've talked to that didn't like FIGHT CLUB were over-sensitive girly men.
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a lot of people who liked fight club were in fact slope-headed neanderthals. it is possible to enjoy it without understanding its meaning, which i believe goes over the head of 60% of its fanbase. doesn't mean it's a bad movie, though.
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i don't see how this could be made into a movie. and i'll tell you why, but it will containt spoilers.
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a lot of the impact in the book was that a few of the characters are the same. such as her old boyfriend (manus, i think i remember his name being) and the guy she and brandy were traveling with. it came as a surprise in the book because he just casually mentioned that they were the same person. but if it was a film it would lose all that impact because well, you could SEE that they're the same person.
it's the same situation with Brandy and her brother. it would be obvious that they were the same person, even with 'surgery.'
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Cutter, your trolling reeks of effort. Acquire skill, then come back. Jesus Fuck, I feel like the BSOfH. --- Chuckles is a funny writer - funny, but that's pretty much it. I love people who see profundity in FIGHT CLUB, then assume it was ported straight in from Foucault or Thales or whothefuckever. Fact is, the movie could be written having only, as Ebert (aka Coronary-in-Waiting #2) said, "tripped over the Nietzsche display on the way to the Ayn Rand shelf". The language and thought are entirely accessible to anyone who has any sort of postsecondary education. Its charm is its absolute shallowness - the callow stupidity of it. --- oh, and lord_garth, having "read an author" means pissh - cf: the infamous "McLuhan Scene" in ANNIE HALL. I actually knew a guy who cited Northrop Frye in attempting to argue that Blake's basic mythological structure was NOT cyclical, but evolutionary. I kicked his teeth out his ears.
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Keep an open mind and read the book. You have to admit that the movie had style, and the book is completely different from anything else youve probably read. It has a lot of style too, and it has a different ending so thats a good payoff. (You could even argue that it has a (much) better ending)
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So Durst directing a music video or two makes him worthy of taking a serious novel and turning it into a feature length film? I won't even bother tearing that idea apart. I just hope Durst says his prayers to his personal God every night. Another no talent schmoe who won a lottery. And Fincher probably just wanted Durst to hook him up with some silicone beauties at the Playboy Mansion.
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The film works on two levels and that's why there are the fans that get hostile and the ones who have intelligent comments. The regular folk see it as a kick ass action flick with a twist ending. Those of us that understand the films intentions see it as a comment on the regular folk and the hostile macho mentality of American culture. If you are a pseudo intellectual, you see it as a justification of violence and/or corporate ideals but you obviously have no insight into social psychology. Those of us that "get it" know the people it portrays. We have been around them all our lives and while their logic can make a certain sense when you say it real fast, in the end it doesn't work. What makes the film subversive is that the people who the film is about still enjoy the film without realizing it's about them. It can be quite humorous to know who's who by reading the comments in the talkback or any discussion about the film.
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Sep 28, 2002 3:36:45 AM CDT
I think SURVIVOR is a better novel then FIGHT CLUB & the movie i
by tall_boy
anyway, yeah SURVIVOR kick ass. I read CHOKE and actually that didn't really get me off as much, SURVIVOR had more kick to it. that should be made w/ Fincher at the helm. Still have to read INVISIBLE MONSTERS & LULLBYE to see the whole work of Chuck P., though. but, yeah, MAKE SURVIVOR, dammit!
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"She said to tell my life story right up to the moment the plane hit the ground. Then the world would think I was dead. She said to start from the end."
Being a huge fan of both Palahniuk's work, and Fincher's work, I would love to see them work together to bring us great entertainment that will make us think. The greatest achievement of Fight club is the heated debate it generates. Truely great movies tend to lend themself to discussion and interpretation, and Fight club has done so since it was first released.
I hope that Fincher and Palahniuk dont adapt one of Palahniuk's novels, but create something original specifically for the screen. Though in saying this im eagerly awaiting to hear how the Chemical Pink adaptation goes.
So, that covers Fincher and Palahniuk, but im forgetting something. Ah yes, the Devil. Fred Durst. The only reason I can think of for Fincher wanting to work with this wannabe-black-highschool-pothead-rapper, is that Fincher seems to live by his "Cinema that scars" statement, and maybe he wants to be involved in the production of a movie so totally awful, that it scars humanity for years. Thats the only logic i can seem to come up with. -
I have a friend that hasn't seen FIGHT CLUB yet. In fact, he's sworn never to see it. Why ? Because I apparently couldn't stop talking about it "Harry style" for about three months after first seeing it.
Still, he's recieved 2 copies on VHS that I bought and gave him. Christmas gifts two years in a row. This christmas maybe I'll get it for him on dvd. This is what this movie means to me. YOU HAVE TO SEE IT!
And I wish that they would do SURVIVOR as well because it's the best book I've ever read. I like it more than FIGHT CLUB even.
I just have to tell you guys.
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being that a lot of people just don't care for 'black' comedy. too much ambiguity. don't want to have to second-guess whether they should be laughing or not. it does seem to be an acquired taste, as i remember not liking THE WAR OF THE ROSES the first time i saw it. i've always been suprised at how many people don't care for BRAZIL, and have noticed most of them don't like FIGHT CLUB either. hey, tooth boy, bring it on.
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was just surfing the official chuck site, and they have a petition to save SURVIVOR (if anyone else posted this, sorry, i missed it). DO YOUR PART, and sign it ASAP!
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"Fight Club" is not misunderstood. I understand it perfectly, because Fincher hits us with a brick when it comes to his message. I happen to think the book is a lot deeper and more complicated than Fincher's movie, which is about as deep and intelligent as Michael Bay. If you like it, good for you. I prefer the book. And yes, I'm well aware Chuck Palahniuk likes it. I personally think he's happy with the check and the notoriety it gave him.
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Ok, I know this will seem like a very late response, but I felt compelled to say it. Way back int he beginning someone said about Chuck P doesn;t know anything about anatomy because of the Fight Club ending with "Jack" shooting himself. Well here's the thing,k Chuck had absolulty nothing to do with that. In the book the ending is completly different, with him actually dying. For the record, Chuck P does seem to know quite a bit about anatomy, he seems to research before you writes.
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Chuck has stated on many occasions that he's getting slacked off with being "The Fight Club Guy" and is trying REALLY hard just to become the "Anything Else Guy". So I think the fame its brought him is good and bad. Also I think as far as book to film adaptations, fight club is certainly up there among the best of them, it holds the styling and message (which is open to debate) of the original book, and will definately become a classic. Alot of films that are now considered classics were disliked by a lot of people on release, and you have to remember that while things like xXx may rake in the cash and is loved by the masses, it wont be memorable in 10 years. Fight Club is up there in my list of Modern Classics. I want to say it would be a great book to study in schools, but in my experience, anything you study in school you hate, regardless of its quality.
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Every Palahniuk book should be brought to the big screen by Fincher. It's not going to happen, but damn if I can't dream.
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Fincher got lucky with SE7EN. Nothing else he has done comes close. And for that CREED hater. Whatever they are or aren't, they write pretty good hooks. They also are, by unit sales, the largest-selling rock group worldwide at this time. Give them credit for stealing from the best.
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