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Published at: Sept. 11, 2002, 2:12 a.m. CST by staff

I am – Hercules!!

Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Looks like a rough cut of “Lessons,” the Joss Whedon-penned seventh-season opener is floating around. Much of what we’ve heard is confirmed, with a few new wrinkles:

* The episode begins with a hooded figure in Istanbul attacking a slayer-in-training.

* Spike is not only showing his dark roots, it appears that the new soul is considerably more than he bargained for, and there is evidence that he’s literally been trying to carve it out.

* Willow, keeping company with Giles in England, is still all magical, and does not depart for Sunnydale in the opener (she’s supposed to rejoin the gang in 7.3). But her spidey-sense still picks up bad vibes from 6,000 miles away, in Sunnydale, still home of the big brewwwwwin’ evil!

* As we've heard these last few weeks, bads from all seasons will appear in a single scene at the end of 7.1. The morphing sequence, sadly, can only be read through the miracle of inviso-text. Warren into Glory into Adam into Mayor Wilkins into Drusilla into The Master into Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It might be Spike’s delusion, but did Spike meet Wilkins in season three?

Additionally, word is now out that 7.5 will be titled “Anya,” and delve into the vengeance demon’s history, including her relationship with Olaf the massive hammer-weilding troll and the origins of her bunny phobias. (This is also the one with the musical Anya flashback to “Once More With Feeling.”) Xander’s ex also continues to exhibit little enthusiasm as she returns to her old vengeance-dealing vocation.

ER

Some tidbits gleaned from a November sweeps episode titled “The Lottery.”

* Did somebody say “Olaf the Troll”? The Illinois Powerball jackpot is up to $87 million, and admissions clerk Jerry will take to reselling lotto ducats to fellow County staffers.

* Now that John and Abby have officially coupled, sensitive widower Luka Kovac has apparently transformed into a rabid womanizer, and endures an ugly breakup with County’s second-hottest ER nurse, Chuny Marquez. Kovac’s behavior even sparks a petition signed by all the female ER nurses (save Abby).

* Abby’s brother Eric (Tom Everett Scott), like his mom, suffers from a mood disorder, and turns up in Chicago in love with a young woman he just met. (Eric also confides to Carter that Abby was famous at her Catholic school for wearing a Sex Pistols T-shirt over her jumper.)

* Corday expresses serious doubts about the surgical future of Parkinson’s-riddled middle-aged med student Paul Nathan (Don Cheadle). Nathan takes his concerns about Corday’s concerns to Romano.

* Nathan proves himself a hero again when he befriends a 26-year-old named Alison whose rare and painful genetic disorder causes her to sign a DNR.

* Corday will treat a 14-year-old who was apparently drugged and raped. The twist is the teen doesn’t appear to remember what happened to her, and the girl’s father doesn’t want Corday to let the kid in on the bad news. Mrs. Greene will also help a jumpy rookie cop with a nasty gash in her hand.

* Jing-Mei is jumpy too after she encounters a belligerent biker patient who calls her a “yellow bitch” and threatens to “come back and cut you up!” Pratt decides it’s his job to calm her down.

* Big Susie will deal with a elderly woman with noisy digestive issues, and send Abby’s brother out in search of lottery tickets.

Firefly

The sixth episode, said to be the last stand-alone installment before creator Joss Whedon’s beloved penchant for rich continuity kicks in, is titled “Jaynesville.” We learn that, due to a colossal misunderstanding, an isolated mud-processing town (don’t ask) regards the Serenity’s resident ill-mannered thug as a folk hero. They even write songs about the guy.

The rejiggered and (hopefully) enhanced two-hour “Firefly” pilot, meanwhile, will finally be unveiled in December.

Gilmore Girls

In the upcoming episode “Eight O’Clock at the Oasis,” Luke’s café will be overrun and menaced by tourists toting high-maintenance toddlers.

The same episode will see Lorelai torment Michel at an antiques auction. When she feels she’s harassed her co-worker sufficiently, she flits to the auction house bar, where she meets a handsome stranger willing to split the facility’s last glass of merlot. The sparks, they will fly.

Smallville

Speaking of colossal misunderstandings, 2.7 will see a middle-aged woman named Rebecca Dunlevy claim that she is Clark’s biological mother. She makes the Kents nervous, if only because she threatens to attract scrutiny to the strange circumstances under which Kal-El was adopted by puny humans.

The really weird part is who Rebecca thinks is Clark’s biological father. (Hint: His face is a familiar one to all “Smallville” fans.)

Lana, meanwhile, meets a former love of her mother’s, a married, Luthor-hating attorney named Henry Small. Lana comes to believe Small might be her true biological father. (2.7, aptly, is titled “Lineage.”)

Pete Ross, who will learn of Clark’s extraterrestrial origins early in the season, will help the boy of steel sneak into a Metropolis medical facility to engineer a DNA swap (if you know what I mean). Clark will demonstrate during the mission that he’s getting awfully handy with the heat-vision.

I am – Hercules!!





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  • Sept. 11, 2002, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Man herc, you really outdid yourself....

    by TheMatarife

    Lotsa new stuff.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 2:34 a.m. CST

    More Dark Willow! More Dark Willow! Give Willow her own Spinoff

    by Junior D-Girl

    I am head over heels in love with our dark mistress of the black arts she is even more scrumptious now! And such fresh dialog it's groovy gang real groovy. I watched both episodes earlier tonight and they were ab-fab. The girl deserves her own series, WILLOW, so get to it or else! :-)

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 2:49 a.m. CST

    Agreed

    by Doubting Thomas

    Herc is easily the best of the AICN regulars. While I give kudos to the other folks responsible for maintaining the site, Herc keeps the fan love without the bitterness that sometimes creeps in with other posts. Thanks for keeping it classy Herc.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Spike and the Mayor

    by ManOfSteele

    The Mayor at least knew of Spike, even if vice versa was not true...

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 3:14 a.m. CST

    MORE pics from 24 season 2 at www.isitonyet.net

    by AlienBoy

    MORE pics, more pics! Pres. Palmer! Kim! Mason and Tony! Jack! I'm the biggest dork in the world!

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 3:38 a.m. CST

    Was Lana's dead pop cuckold? Does the slayer-in-training wea

    by Gellar's Ass

    Lana's real biological father? I don't remember anything about her being adopted or anything like that. Of course, neither of her smooshed parents were Asian, so that doesn't agree with Kreuk's lineage in any case. **** Slayer-in-training? Does that mean they prep young girls to become slayers? Does this mean slayers ususally die young? What happens to the understudy if the current slayer doesn't die until she's 50? Cue a now 45-year-old slayer or start over with whatever candidate happens to be the ripe age for a good demographic?

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Does anyone want to bet that "Firefly" will be canceled before e

    by Astral Weeks

    I would'nt be surprised.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Slayers

    by RogueScribner

    It's not common for Slayers to live past the age of 25. Hell, Buffy's died twice already (technically three times)! Unlike other Slayers, though, she keeps coming back! :) But we knew about Slayers in Training before: remember Kendra? She was taken away from her family at a very young age to begin training so she would be ready when and if she was called to duty. I suspect customs similar to that would be present worldwide. L8r

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:16 a.m. CST

    Atral, re: Firefly

    by RogueScribner

    Fox has demped a lot of money into this. The show should last >at least< 13 episodes! lol L8r

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:31 a.m. CST

    Dumping money vs. dumping shows

    by Rick McCallum

    Yeah, so fuckin&#39; what if FOX dumped a lot of money into Firefly? If they see it&#39;s not worth airing when the ratings come in, you can be sure they&#39;ll dump it from the line-up and rescind production on any episodes that might be left in the 13-episode order. They own the show, so they are not obligated to themselves to fund production for all the episodes. I predict that 9 of the 13 episodes will be produced before it&#39;s cancelled. They&#39;ll air 5 or 6 episodes, and we&#39;ll have to see the rest on FX in January. Frankly, Firefly to Joss Whedon is bearing too many uncomfortable similarities as Harsh Realm was to Chris Carter: A "pure" sci-fi project with questionable general audience appeal pushed by a darling TV series creator. And sci-fi "ship shows" simply do not do well on the major networks. And Enterprise doesn&#39;t count since it has a built-in audience of sheep (AKA "fans") who are drawn by the Trek brand.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:56 a.m. CST

    This I Swear! (tm)

    by Rick McCallum

    My compliments to your nick, TR. Seriously, there&#39;s word that Jack indeed WILL learn of Teri&#39;s rape next season. How will he know? Nina will tell Jack in order to piss him off. Heh.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 6:30 a.m. CST

    the morphing Big Bads

    by jinX

    Warren has clearly been dubbed the Big Bad of last season by this scene.. bet Drucilla subbed in for Angelus who couldn&#39;t cross over This final scene IMHO is clearly the return of FIRST EVIL since it talks about going back the beginning and when it morphs to Buffy, its wearing the same outfit it had on when it wore Jenny Calendar&#39;s form back in Season 3.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Willow Magic

    by jinX

    Marti gets her wrist slapped with the Willow magic developments. The words "Magic ISN&#39;T an addiction" are actually spoken.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 10:31 a.m. CST

    I am looking forward to Firefly but Fox wont stick with it......

    by cooper2000

    They have a history and dumping Sci Fi shows in bad time periods and then dumping the show. Hell they are already telling Josh that they want more action instead of plot. Not a good feeling.** Good news for Buffy, I hope this season they are back on track. ** Smallville I have been watching over the Summer and strangely it is the same plot each with with a new villian. Someone gets in trouble and Clark saves them. I hear they are getting away from villian of the week so I may watch next season. That Clark and Lana are Hot. Gilmore Girls and E.R...Who cares. ******SAVE FARSCAPE********

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Spoilers

    by SallyHousecoat

    First let me say I appreciate the spoilers Herc but, does anyone remember the good old days when there were so many spoilers Buffy got a seperate TB. It seems like by July last year the entire first half of the season had been spoiled by Herc. This year we know one or two things about 5 episodes. Did the spoiler well run dry? Lastly, I think I&#39;ll hold off on Firefly&#39;s demise speculation until I have actually seen the show.

  • I personally never agreed with the oh-so-vocal detractors of Abby&#39;s mom, but I didn&#39;t think ANOTHER bipolar character was going to be inflicted on the ER. I think that&#39;s overkill. ******** I hope that theory about First Evil turns out to be true. Of all the story lines Buffy has had, that one remains full of untapped potential. I personally hope the stuff with First Slayer is connected to it as well, and if this is the last season it&#39;s really important that these forces come together. Or maybe I&#39;m putting too much importance on the word "First" there. Anyway, it&#39;s too bad the Big Bads are only going to be delusions, I was hoping something actually worth while might be done with Adam and Glory, two horrendously forgettable villains who just about ruined the arcs of the fourth and fifth seasons respectively. And Spike is the one seeing them? I thought it would be Buffy. I guess it&#39;s a "you know you&#39;re one of us" kind of deals. But again, it fits that First Evil would be interested in Spike, as FE&#39;s last appearance involved haunting Angel--and I doubt their both being vampires with a soul is coincidence. That prophecy on Angel really needs to come to Sunnydale, complicated TV show mythology be damned!

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Dinotopia

    by CSCLARKEY2X4B

    Have u yanks seen dinotopia yet Cos us Brits have seen two and a half hours worth on British channel Sky One. Average acting doesnt affect it being not that bad. Lee Evans, despite being miscast as a dinosaur librarian isn&#39;t bad either. V. similar 2 10th kingdom.My first post But ill be back

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 3:02 p.m. CST

    roguescribner re: slayer

    by gusher1011

    I was just wondering, when did Buffy die a third time? I can only remember the two...

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4 p.m. CST

    buffy&#39;s third death

    by First

    Buffy died once at the hand&#39;s of The Master when he drowned her at the end of the first season and, of course, when she lept from the tower at the end of the 5th season. She also &#39;died&#39; at the hands of The Master when Anya granted Cordelia&#39;s wish, but that usually isn&#39;t counted since Giles reversed Anya&#39;s spell so all events were as though they didn&#39;t happen, people who were killed (just about every major character) were alive again and no one seems to remember what happened. (Perhaps you remember seeing Evil Willow from that alternate time-line. She appeared in another episode too.)

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Glad there are less Buff Spoilers

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    Last season was over spoiled. The season might have at least been piss poor instead of a godawful piece of dog shit if there were a few surprise. Oh, and Aly is a goddess. She should get her own show.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Slayer in training

    by Braider

    That concept always bothered me. How can they even begin to guess who will be called? (For that matter, I have watched the movie but forget - did they ever explain how they knew Buffy had been called?) If they can predict who will be called, why wan&#39;t Buffy trained? It&#39;s a continuity flaw that I hoped they would quietly push under the carpet and forget about.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:27 p.m. CST

    buffy&#39;s third death

    by sjanich

    In epsisode 6.21, Buffy dies on a table in the Emergency Room as Dark Willow comes in an ordersd everybody out. The heart monitor audibly flatlines. Then Dark Willow use magic to suck out the bullet heal wound and restart Buffy.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Just one thing to say:

    by Amazing Kreskin

    Good Willow. Evil Willow. Willow sandwich. Yum.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Why Wasn&#39;t Buffy trained?

    by sjanich

    In the godawful movie, the Watcher says something about a birthright bodymark and how they had trouble finding her; then Buffy says something about her parents having had her birthmark "fixed" with plastic surgery. Or something close to that.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:36 p.m. CST

    Braider

    by RenoNevada2000

    It was stated somewhere that all potential Slayers are born with a mark on them a type of mole and that identifies them to their new Watcher. How the Watchers find them hasn&#39;t really been explored- they may cast a spell, see it in chicken entrails or perhaps receive a telegram. I don&#39;t know. I like the idea that there are several Slayer candidates in training at one time waiting to be Called. It wouldn&#39;t make sense for only one in training. Suppose Slayer A is active and B is in training. A dies and B is called, but dies on her first mission. That would only give new Slayer in Training C only a week of training before being called. It would make much more sense to have B, C, and D all in training in various locations (probably oblivious to each others identity) and be ready in case they need to be called. (Of course this leads one to wonder about Slayer Trainees who never get called, is there a certain age when they no longer become eligible, etc...)

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Well...

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    Technically the movie isnt cannon, but on the show it has been stated that some potential slayers do slip through the cracks and are not found. It is assumed that the CoW have some type of spell or seers that detect potential girls. Also, to the 3 times Buffy died question. Some people argue she died in &#39;Villains&#39; right before Willow took the bullet out.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Buffy movie vs canon

    by RenoNevada2000

    Well, maybe the movie isn&#39;t canon, but I&#39;d accept most of its events as Apocraphyl. Until something is stated in the series that contradicts it, I&#39;ll take it as "Close to canon". The "BTVS:Origin" mini-series, based on Joss&#39;s original script, with the burning down of the gym, is what I would probably consider canon. In a related note- Christy Swanson will be nekkid in Playboy next month!

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Buffy&#39;s 3rd death

    by RogueScribner

    Actually, I was refering to "Nightmares" when Buffy died by the Master&#39;s hand and was turned into a vampire. It wasn&#39;t alternate universe like in "The Wish" and it wasn&#39;t up for speculation as in "Villians". Everything that transpired in "Nightmares" really happened, but was undone when they forced the little boy to face his fears. "I&#39;ve got a theory/Some kid is dreaming/And we&#39;re all stuck inside his wacky Broadway nightmare." L8r

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 7:11 p.m. CST

    young Blade guest staring on Buffy...

    by DarkWingDragon

    that would be tight

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 7:16 p.m. CST

    buffy?

    by DarkWingDragon

    I have not been following buffy for a while and when i saw it yesterday, i was like wtf...what the hell happen to the show...

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Braider...

    by DefyThis

    It was stated in one episode or another that Kendra was trained in advance, and it was also mentioned that Buffy&#39;s calling was a surprise, if I&#39;m not dreaming it all.

  • Sept. 11, 2002, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Why Buffy wasn&#39;t called

    by RogueScribner

    Buffy wasn&#39;t called because the Slayer birthmark was removed and the Council had difficulty finding her. She was already in high school by the time Merrick tracked her down. L8r

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Wouldn&#39;t Buffy dying in "Nightmares" be considered just a dr

    by Voice O. Reason

    It was a show about people&#39;s dreams (not real) being played out in real life, but technically they were still dreams. That&#39;s my rationalization, and I&#39;m sticking to it.

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 1:34 a.m. CST

    "Nightmares"

    by RogueScribner

    The dreams were manifested in reality and affected other people. Buffy&#39;s nightmare was that the Master would escape and he did. The real Master. Who then bit Buffy. Buffy didn&#39;t dream that she&#39;d die and become a vampire, that was Giles&#39; nightmare. It all happened within the reality of the show. Everyone still had memories of the events and danger was real. The affects were erased by the end and everyone returned to normal. It doesn&#39;t change what happened though. L8r

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 8:10 a.m. CST

    buffy&#39;s third death

    by First

    I don&#39;t remember the &#39;Nightmares&#39; episode very well. I always just assumed those were dreams and not part of the Buffyworld reality, but from your (ROGUESCRIBNER&#39;s) description, the reality of the events seems about the same as in Cordelia & Anya&#39;s &#39;The Wish&#39; episode. So perhaps, if we grant reality to one, we should to the other too. ..... (To SJANICH: I never even considered that Buffy may have died due to Warren&#39;s bullet. Guess I need to review that episode.)

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Technically, flatlining isn&#39;t death

    by Drath

    The medical team didn&#39;t call it quits, they were still working to resuscitate Buffy when Willow interrupted them. I don&#39;t think that counts myself, but it really doesn&#39;t matter since Buffy&#39;s death or almost death no longer affects the calling of future slayers. And before we get anymore banal, can&#39;t we all agree that Buffy has died numerous times during the course of the show without debating how "real" each death was?

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 12:26 p.m. CST

    How the slayers are called.

    by Proteus234

    Wasn&#39;t it said somewhere... in one episode either on Buffy or Angel... that the Slayers are created by the "Powers that Be". The council gets this information from the PTB and seeks out the slayer. I know I actually saw this somewhere... I just can&#39;t remember where. Also when the body flatlines.. it is dead. The doctors don&#39;t call it quits simply because they can actually bring the body back to life. In season one Xander performs CPR on Buffy who has essentially flatlined...

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 12:38 p.m. CST

    My word on Buffy&#39;s death

    by RogueScribner

    Buffy&#39;s death in "The Wish" was in an alternate universe. That happened along a different timeline entirely from the reality of the series. And if Buffy&#39;s death in Prophecy Girl was a technical death, then maybe her death in "Villians" should count, too. So she&#39;s died 4 times. We can debate this forever, but that&#39;s the way I see things anyway. "Nightmares" happened within the reality of the show and "The Wish" didn&#39;t. L8r

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 12:44 p.m. CST

    buffy&#39;s third death (msg to DRATH)

    by First

    If I weren&#39;t afraid of starting a mud-slinging contest, I&#39;d argue that I (and possibly others involved in this thread) weren&#39;t being banal but instead were being trivial. Doesn&#39;t banal imply predictability and the commonplace? If we were discussing &#39;Why wasn&#39;t a new slayer called when Buffy died?&#39; well, that would be commonplace (at least for these talkbacks) wouldn&#39;t it? ..... We could, on the other hand, try for pedantic. How &#39;bout that? ..... [btw, I agree that flatlining isn&#39;t necessarily death.]

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Re: Dawn&#39;s Scoobies

    by jinX

    Kitt and Carlos are more juvenile delinquents and social misfits that Willow and Xander. Keep you eyes on Kitt, she has slayer written all over her.

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 12:56 p.m. CST

    buffy&#39;s third death (msg to ROGUESCRIBNER)

    by First

    I believe that in the later episode where Evil Willow returns, they refer to her being from an alternate timeline or parallel universe (or horrors! probably they use the absurd term parallel dimension), but in the original episode &#39;The Wish&#39;, there is no logical way the events could be anything but real to the participants. ..... But I guess, as you suggest, we could argue this forever and probably never reach a certain conclusion. So let&#39;s agree to disagree, lest we cause poor Mr. Drath&#39;s eye&#39;s to bleed.

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 1:59 p.m. CST

    flatlining

    by sjanich

    She didn&#39;t flatline until the ER team was leaving.

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Slayer Youngins

    by Heather_Sinclair

    Check out the Spike and Dru book "Pretty Maids All in a Row" It goes into the training of the &#39;Slayers-to-be&#39; In a nutshell, and this is keeping in mind the original movie, pilot script, and canon info, the CoW&#39;s are able to predict the &#39;potential&#39; of a person becoming a slayer through magical means. The girl is then taken and trained to be ready &#39;in case&#39; she is called. However, every once in a while they either mess up or are unable to predict who the PTB&#39;s are going to chose. i.e. Buffy and Faith. In PMAIAR they had something like 10+ girls being trained. There was an age limit, however. If the girl reached a certain age then she was no longer likely to become a slayer and released from training to either join the council or go back to their life. The mole (Birthmark) has nothing to do with why the CoW&#39;s couldn&#39;t predict Buffy&#39;s rise into slayerdom. It was just a way to confirm that they had the right person.

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 3:57 p.m. CST

    msg to First!!!

    by Drath

    Banal also mean trivial and trite, and yes it implies predictability and commonplace--which this kind of nonsense IS on a Buffy talkback. Bleeding eyes indeed.

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Re: Nightmares

    by NCSlayLady

    Sorry RogueScribner, I&#39;m gonna have to disagree with you on one point. In Nightmares, it&#39;s true that Buffy&#39;s death was Giles&#39; nightmare, but her becoming a vamp was HER nightmare, as Giles says "You never told me you dreamt of becoming a vampire". Also, the Master doesn&#39;t actually kill Buffy in this ep, he just grabs her throat and pushes her into the grave and buries her alive (another of her nighmares, I assume).

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 4:26 p.m. CST

    A wedding question...

    by Willowy

    Hmmm...this is a bit off topic I know but does anyone else think it&#39;s strange that with all the publicity about SMG&#39;s wedding there&#39;s not ONE mention of her castmates from BtVS attending? Not only were none of them in the wedding party, as far as I can tell from everything I&#39;ve read, nobody from the show was even there! I think it has something to do with Miss Snooty Pants (now Mrs.) thinking herself too good for the room. She never promotes the show, never goes to any functions related to Buffy, wouldn&#39;t allow herself to be interviewed for the DVDs, and wouldn&#39;t even loan her voice "talent" to the XBox game. When the animated show was still in the works, she refused to participate in that too. Quite the ego. She is easily the least interesting part of BtVS, yet because she has the lead role, thinks she is goddess. That&#39;s my opinion anyway. She owes Joss & Company her entire career, yet she acts as though it&#39;s a throwaway job. She&#39;s busy, you say? Making tripe like Scooby Doo? Please. She just comes off as ungrateful and arrogant. I hope she does leave the show. She&#39;d be in for a rude awakening. Can everyone say "David Caruso?"

  • Sept. 12, 2002, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Final word on Buffy&#39;s third death

    by cyber

    Buffy died three times. The alternate world does not count because everything was restored to normal and that world ceased to be. THERE!!

  • Sept. 13, 2002, 12:56 p.m. CST

    SMG copping a &#39;tude

    by Braider

    It&#39;s possible that she&#39;s starting to fall into the "this is beneath me" trap. It&#39;s also possible that she&#39;s gotten sick to death of the show. It&#39;s been six years. By now, they&#39;ve filmed a lot of season 7. She maybe wants to get away from being forced into the image of Buffy. **************Also, this is a wedding. Despite her being a celebrity, wedding does not necessarily = media event. It may have been for family and a few friends (granted, I haven&#39;t read any of the media coverage.) Just - cut her some slack, eh? She is not beholden to you just because she has starred in a show that you like. She has a life, she has interests, and life and interests change over time.

  • Sept. 13, 2002, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Braider

    by Willowy

    I never meant to suggest that SMG is beholden to ME in any way. She is beholden to the show that made her a star. She makes a hundred grand an episode to show up and BE Buffy. Just as major movie stars have to promote their work as part of their responsibility to the studios, she should have to do what everyone else does, ie... give interviews, etc. The prima donna pose will do nothing but alienate fans, viewers and, (apparently) her co-workers. This is a free country and of course SMG has the right to behave any way she sees fit, it&#39;s just unfortunate that her ego seems to have gotten in the way. Yes I really like the show for many reasons, (mostly the writing) but I feel disgruntled and let down that the star of the show seems to have no enthusiasm for it. And I&#39;d really like to know why none of her castmates went to the wedding. That&#39;s all.

  • Sept. 13, 2002, 4:05 p.m. CST

    SMGs ego

    by CrippledBitch

    i agree. its bigger than Silent Bob&#39;s waistline.

  • Sept. 13, 2002, 4:14 p.m. CST

    oops

    by CrippledBitch

    i forgot--1st-time poster.

  • Sept. 14, 2002, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Hoping Buffy ends if SMG leaves...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Really, what&#39;s the point of going on if Buffy herself wants out? And SMG is 25 now, and started the series when she was 18. So I can emphathize why she might choose to leave after this season. Would YOU want to spend your entire youth working on the same show, playing the same character, ad nauseum? Furthermore, it looks like this season could feel like a retread, even if Joss leads the story breakdowns adeptly. It&#39;s really time to creatively bring the series to a close. Financially, it may not be wise for Fox to continue production without SMG. For example, there&#39;s speculation that Sci-Fi and TNT may choose not to air most of the 8th and 9th season episodes of X-Files that did not have David Duchovny in them, and these two seasons may not be released on DVD for the time being, due to falling interest in this series which ran longer than it should have. If UPN wants the series to continue, then offer to turn Fray into a series to continue the Slayer franchise. For the fans, revisit Buffy and the Scoobies in a feature film. MT is a talented, attractive young woman, but, c&#39;mon, folks, Dawn is simply not worthy nor interesting enough to lead her own series. I&#39;d rather see an entirely new series concept built around MT than to see a Dawn The Vampire Slayer show.

  • Sept. 14, 2002, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Hoping Buffy ends if SMG leaves...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Really, what&#39;s the point of going on if Buffy herself wants out? And SMG is 25 now, and started the series when she was 18. So I can emphathize why she might choose to leave after this season. Would YOU want to spend your entire youth working on the same show, playing the same character, ad nauseum? Furthermore, it looks like this season could feel like a retread, even if Joss leads the story breakdowns adeptly. It&#39;s really time to creatively bring the series to a close. Financially, it may not be wise for Fox to continue production without SMG. For example, there&#39;s speculation that Sci-Fi and TNT may choose not to air most of the 8th and 9th season episodes of X-Files that did not have David Duchovny in them, and these two seasons may not be released on DVD for the time being, due to falling interest in this series which ran longer than it should have. If UPN wants the series to continue, then offer to turn Fray into a series to continue the Slayer franchise. For the fans, revisit Buffy and the Scoobies in a feature film. MT is a talented, attractive young woman, but, c&#39;mon, folks, Dawn is simply not worthy nor interesting enough to lead her own series. I&#39;d rather see an entirely new series concept built around MT than to see a Dawn The Vampire Slayer show.

  • Sept. 16, 2002, 1:59 p.m. CST

    re: buffy&#39;s uselessness

    by CrippledBitch

    good point, merc. new show idea: "Wicked Willow: Queen of Sunnydale" :)

  • Sept. 18, 2002, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Buffy mentor

    by enter_the_zone

    Buffy cannot mentor the new SLAYER during the season as Faith is signed on for the LAST five eps of s7. Thus the new slayer can only be called when Faith dies at the end of the season. B may mentor the slayer-in-training though.

  • Sept. 25, 2002, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Slayers called (u forgot)

    by Vic82

    it was stated that aside from movie lore...slayers are called from a mystical crystal that is given to the watchers to find there slayers and train them. Apperently it allows them to see the person when envoked

  • Sept. 25, 2002, 1:41 a.m. CST

    to all so called slayer buffs!!!!

    by Vic82

    1st of all Willow should not be killed off and will not cuz she is going to L.A. and she is only powerful for short periods of time so Buffy is not useless!!! In nightmares, Giles&#39; nightmare was for her to die not be a vampire.