Aug. 12, 2002, 5 a.m. CST
How could you let Jude Law go over a shitty sequel contract...this is shameful indeed...He was right for the role of Superman...he would have nailed it and made it a stand out performance...he is Farrell's equal in age and in stature...Hartnett looks like he could be Farrell's younger brother...i like hartnett, don't get me wrong, but my interest in this project just plummetted...its not like you'd end up making a sequel to this film anyways with all the other solo properties happening after this...why not just focus on making one great project at a time...if the material is well written for a sequel...i'm sure the actors would have come back...do what you have to do and bring LAW back...Oh well!!! i guess they will have to retitle the movie, Batman Vs Superboy!!!
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:09 a.m. CST
I would mention the names of a half dozen actors that would be great for the role of Superman, but what would be the point? The studios would just go with some big name actor that wants to have an action figure of himself. "Who should we cast as Superman?" "Who's hot?" "Scooby Doo made a killing at the box office..." "Freddie Prinze Jr. You're a genius Satan!"
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:09 a.m. CST
...he's sat on my couch, he's watched cartoons whilst i sucked his nob-end and licked balls like a rabid monkey on a salt stick,' SHUT UP WITH YOUR WHINGING KISS ASS BROWN NOSING HARRY!!!. 1. Harnet is a shit actor, nonono don't try to justify his sad career of pretty bitch boy, he can't act, your trying to hard if you even imagine he can. 2. James Dean he fucking ain't, how do i know this, well because Dean had class and he also didn't have Harrys tongue lodged between his cheeks. Thanks for the buddy buddy moments you shared with us, they moved me.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:15 a.m. CST
This guy is the shiznit and perfect for Supes, bar none. Maybe they could modify his TICK costume and give him boots, a cape, undies with a belt and a big "S" symbol on his chest. I've said it before and I'll say it again....Patrick friggin' Warburton for Clark/Supes.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:15 a.m. CST
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:24 a.m. CST
by Sofa Sogood
I completly understand the allure of these superheros making ANOTHER appearance on the screen. However is our love of the nostalgia of these super heros getting in the way of the total enevitability that these films will absoultly suck. When will it be time to put these heros to rest. I am 100% behind making small independent comic franchises into motion pictures. True anti-heros make for the best cinema anyways. I compare it to underground punk bands signing to a major label, and putting out a video on 120 minutes. Yeah there not going to go platnum, but if that band can reach 1000 more people and touch there lives, isnt it worth it. How many more times can Warner Bros dip into our wallets before we say enough. They are manipulating us with our own memories. The feeling we had when we first cracked the spine on a new Superman comic. The rush when a new issue of Batman hit the stands. The corporate machine will continue to spin, crush, and conquer unless we take our heros back. This franchise will not get my money. I don't care how hot Colin Farrell looks in molded plastic.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:30 a.m. CST
Josh Hartnett is so wrong for the role of Superman - I can see this as being yet another bland middle of the road superhero franchise - like what happens when you give Joel Schumacher Batman. Dea god, please do not let McG get his hands on the Superman franchise!
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:33 a.m. CST
by Private Ryan
Jude Law should be Superman. Damn you Warners. Ferrall will make an excellent Batman and Law would have been a great Superman...not cool.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:35 a.m. CST
Jude Law was PERECT! It would've been awesome. Ah well. my best friend is absolutely in LOVE with Josh Hartnett, so she'll be happy, but still.....I think this sucks. Hey Harry, your not as subtle with the old 'celebrity-name dropping' as you used to be. We dont really care if Josh Hartnett shared a bong with you or not.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:36 a.m. CST
by a goonie
i love Josh. he managed to deliver a good performance in Pearl Harbour, and two great performances in O and Black Hawk Down. 40 Days and 40 Nights wasn't so hot, but Josh remained a beacon of talent throughout the whole thing. he's the one that kept that movie from going completely to shit. no, he may not seem totally fit for the Kent and Superman role. but then, Mike Keaton sure as fuck didn't seem right for Batman. and yet, he IS Batman. the definitive Batman. no one else comes close to BEING BATMAN compared to Keaton. Burton made me a believer. now Peterson (he IS doing this, right?) might do that with Josh.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:43 a.m. CST
But Hartnett doesn't have Michael Keaton's acting ability...Josh Hartnett plays Josh Hartnett in every role...where as Jude Law is an acting chameleon...he would blend in and make you believe he was the man of steal...Hartnett is just too damn young...i don't care if he's tall or not...he still looks much younger than Farrell even if they are only a few years apart...do the smart thing...bring back LAW! All will be forgiven.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:49 a.m. CST
Dont give me any of this..."well Chris Reeve was around the same age as Hartnett when he played Superman"...its true...but Reeves looked like he was about 30..and a man...and Warner...don't be jumping on the "Spider-man was young and pulled in 400 mill" crap...he is supposed to be young...there will be absolutely no chemistry between Farrell and Hartnett...Farrell will act circles around him...there by making Superman look flat...which he doesn't have to be...
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:59 a.m. CST
And it such a shame. They got it soooo right with the Richard Donner Superman that they think that they can repeat the formula and make a shed-full of money. Wrong. Superman died a death at the box office in the eighties. They showed a rare moment of clarity and gave Tim Burton Batman and we got a flawed but enjoyable film. They made the same mistake, repeated the formula and we got increasingly bad sequels. I don't pretend to be a total comic nerd. I like them enougth to know that the Marval comics were always cooler that D.C.'s stable of hero's. I also know enougth to realise that as long as Warners are involved in were not getting a decent D.C. comic based film. Marval on the other hand seem to be learning from Warner's mistake's and we are getting better hero films from them. X-Men very nearly got as good as Donners Superman. Spiderman (always my fav) was pretty good and I have huge hopes for Ang Lee and what he can do with The Hulk. I guess what I'm saying is that while the WB logo is at the beginning of a Superhero flick I'm not interested.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:03 a.m. CST
Ever since I saw him in Gattaca-- I was like show more of that cripple!!! hehe. He just is a phenomenal actor and I would have been seriously intrigued to see his portrayal of superman. Oh, well.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:17 a.m. CST
agentclock, I agree. That's why it would have been cool to see Law's portrayal of a superhero.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:22 a.m. CST
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:23 a.m. CST
by Filthy Fox
Warner Bros. is fucking up this Super Hero movie popularity boom. Josh Hartnet is just way too young for this role. I can't even imagine him in the Superman costume, let alone perform like him. What they need to do is cast an actor, not a fucking pin-up who looks stoned all the time. Oh well, this movie is gonna suck no matter what.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:25 a.m. CST
Jesus Christ, WB, give Jude Law whatever the hell he wants you morons. God, Josh couldn't act himself out of a bag.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:26 a.m. CST
by Film Fan
Remember all the fuss Anne Rice made about Tom Cruise as Lestat, and then she had to eat her words (which she did quite gracefully). Josh Hartnett is an ACTOR. That means he PRETENDS to be other people, there's no reason, since he looks the part and IS from the Midwest, that he can't shake that "smoker's body language" and play the Man of Steel. I guess we'll see.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:30 a.m. CST
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Aug. 12, 2002, 6:30 a.m. CST
Only about "nuff said" to lead us to suppose that you have issues.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:32 a.m. CST
He can't and you all know it. He's shit. I hate this news, I no longer want to see this movie. Sorry for accidently posting the heading twice.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:34 a.m. CST
Why? Harry, you always report bullshit. Why should we take this seriously? This whole thing is retarded.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:42 a.m. CST
as in "Jude wasn't averse to playing Superman in multiple films..."
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:44 a.m. CST
Hrithik Roshan would be perfect for the role of supes, check the guy out at the IMDB site.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:44 a.m. CST
Why not just cast Skreach from "Saved by the Bell" as Superman and be DONE WITH IT. Personally I'm all super heroed out. who cares.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:46 a.m. CST
This movie should not be made. I don't care who wrote the script and who is directing. BATMAN vs. SUPERMAN, just like ALIENS vs. PREDATOR should not be happening. Has anyone actually read the script? Do we have a guarantee that some hack will not 'doctor' the script? Das Boot and all that is fine but will Peterson have complete creative control......? Fuck! If the gods do not answer my prayers then Russell Crowe as Superman and George Clooney/Hugh Jackman as Batman would be adequate casting. A movie version of MASK OF THE PHANTASM needs to be made.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:08 a.m. CST
I don't usually like superhero movies. I got interested in them with Tobey Maguire playing Spiderman, because that really added something to the genre. Then I got excited about this Batman vs. Superman thing because they had Colin Farrell and especially Jude Law in the title roles. And now they change him for Josh Hartnett, of all people ???!!! I mean, I have nothing against the guy in romantic comedies, standard action movies or even drama. But he can't do Superman! It's not even his age, it's his face! With those eyes especially, he's always the same guy. Jude Law is a real chameleon, looking totally different in every movie he makes, and his Superman would have been truly something else... I guess we'll never find out if I'm right about this... grrWarnerbrosgrr. And all this over a stupid sequel clause in the contract... Hedwig
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:22 a.m. CST
i thought superman and batman were friends. it isn't over a wonder woman is it?
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:25 a.m. CST
been there in his back yard; sat and drank a beer right there in harry's back yard there. right over there. yep - josh hartnet - the actual guy - the one from all those movies - right over there, at harry's house. met him in person... snore....
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:28 a.m. CST
Why are warner bros even thinking about getting a new actor to do Superman when they have the best proved Superman there is - namely Christopher Reeve? Now, I know he is a little old, but he still has what it takes. I haven't seen him in any movies recently so this would be a good comeback.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:29 a.m. CST
first up, the guy can actually act. OK, he's not the prodigious talent that jude law is, but he certainly can convey intelligence, confidence and integrity on screen - that's evident, even in crap projects like 'H20'. secondly, provided he straightens up his posture a little (he does have a tendency to slouch a little), he's got the middle-america look that suits this role right down to the ground. thirdly, he's shown he can handle himself in straight-up drama and light comedy (OK, '40 days and 40 nights' was a bit lame, but hartnett held it together with his lead performance). i dunno what 'batman versus superman' is gonna call for, but try a mental exercise: recast hartnett in the original richard donner 'superman'. can you see him handling reeve's most memorable moments? i know i can, and i'm right behind josh taking on the role. and without wishing to sound too critical, fuck you if you think different.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:34 a.m. CST
I agree that josh isnt right for the part but i didnt think that jude law was good either. I know that superman is nearly invincible so he doesnt need to be a big guy but damn 5'11" and 145lbs. NO WAY Superman was also a symbol an icon, and even if he borrowed burt reynolds platform shoes it wouldnt work. He wouldn't have the presence that superman needs. I don't know who would be good to play superman but i do know that these two are not it.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:38 a.m. CST
by Miss Aura
The man cant act and is a complete joke to the role of Superman. Nice job of casting you got going there studios, why not enlist BUTTERBEAN as Lex Luthor too. You mindless morons, you kill most films you touch.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:40 a.m. CST
good news is that at least Law will be viable as a Bond when Brosnan is done in a few years time. With a few more pounds of weight, and slightly more weathered face (and some black hair dye) he's the best successor around (couldn't do it with a cape in his folio). However that is the only good news - he would've made a fine Supes. How about Jason Patric?
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:43 a.m. CST
I dunno Harry, this report seems less reasoned than most of the shit that you do ... having said that I just read the whole "grr! jealous!" style intro for the umpteenth time about the LOTR concert at the Bowl then your little bit about digital in that review of Simone, so you cover a lot of ground, man. What the fuck is up with that gif, though? What is it? Buy my book!
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:53 a.m. CST
by Doubting Thomas
I don't understand how this became an issue. The nature of this film suggests a sequel would be bizarre. Do we want to see 3 Batman vs. Superman films? I can't imagine it. The thinking at WB doesn't seem very level headed on this project. When the franchise for Superman is relaunched, I want the whole cast from Smallville up there on the big screen. This seems like a case of the lefy hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. Hello, WB? You have the cast we all want to see in ANOTHER department. Batman vs. Superman just holds us over until Smallville has run it's course. No charge for the advice.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:57 a.m. CST
Jude Law is a fantastic actor. However - I consider him as physically wrong for Superman as Harry seems to consider Josh. I do admire the hell out of him though for not locking himself into sequels without script approval. Smart move, Jude - you're too good to end up in another Schumacher helmed ice-capades-meets-cabaret superhero film (No, Warners, we're NEVER forgiving you for that movie). On the good side, this movie does have one thing going for it already - It couldn't POSSIBLY be worse than Batman & Robin. Hell, I could piss onto a reel of undeveloped film and make a better movie than Batman & Robin. Frankly, I can't believe Warners had the balls to turn Jude down. Any actor agreeing to ANY part in a Warner's movie should demand the "Batman & Robin" sequel clause in their contract.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:58 a.m. CST
At what point did Clooney (who I still think could have been an excellent Batman/Bruce Wayne) realize he was swimming in shit? I am convinced Colin Farrell is perfect for Bats.. but aside from Freddy Prinze Jr, I can't think of anybody less Super than Josh "Mom, where's my spine?" Hartnett. I even had to check to see if it was April 1st.. Don't get me wrong - I thought he was great in Virgin Suicides, but if I were Farrell, I'd be legging it to the hills right about now.. just like Clooney should have when he was told he'd be working opposite Schwarzanegger and Alicia Puppyfat. Warners have shown their true colours again,and they're really fucking lame. Excuse me while I tear off my own face in anguish...
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:59 a.m. CST
Jude Law looks to be about 5'8" Sorry, if anyone was wrong for Superman it was him. Sure he is a good actor but Hartnett at least has the look and height to pull it off. Plus I wouldn't want to see Superman wearing a wig.
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:11 a.m. CST
by David Aaronson
Why Oh why is Wolfgang Petersen getting involved with this project? Batman V Superman is the sort of project that a director in dire need of a hit would make(for example Schumacher). In The Line Of Fire,Airforce One & The Perfect Storm have all struck box office gold for Petersen so whats the point! What's happened to the much touted Shackleton epic that Gibson & Crowe were vying for.Its time this very talented director got back to making important films like Das Boot.
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:15 a.m. CST
harry is totally right on this, josh hartnett has a presence about him, but he doesnt look right as superman. you can say what you want about him being a great actor, but in the movie business looks is the most important thing, as it is a visual art. you have two types of role in a film, the character, and the hero/heroine. a character actor is someone like kevin spacey, someone who knows their trade, someone who has trained, and is an actor. a hero is someone like clooney, a man who cant really act, he plays the same quick talking, assertive man that fits well as either a proffesional theif, a superhero, a gulf war special forces dude, etc. but he cant act. anyway what is my point? oh yeah, superman is a hero role, there is little character there, so anyone could play him, but because we are so familiar with superman and how he looks, he must be look right, fairly buff, clean looking, dark hair, red cape. josh hartnett is a weed, he looks too young, he could still play a kid role in teen slashers, it cant happen, it wont happen. i think somebody like, guy pearce, jason patric (its not acting we're after) or christian bale. mor they should get Vin Diesel to play both parts, just to be cool.
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:39 a.m. CST
This movie is going the right way to being a major TURKEY. JUDE LAW was never right in the first place. SUPERMAN is a 6.4 BRICK SHIT HOUSE FULL STOP, not 5.10 165lbs. Don't give me the old chestnut about he can work out, sorry we are talking about him gaining about 5-6 stone too look anything like SUPERMAN. If they are even considering spending so much bloody money on this... Why wont they just make the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS? THE NOVEL IS CRYING OUT TO BE MADE INTO A MOVIE. For a start every average cinema goer knows who Superman is so he can be the secondary character he is in the book without a problem. INGREDIENTS: $150-$200 Million. Ridley Scott to Direct, get the SET BUILDERS from BLADE RUNNER. FRANK MILLER to adapt the COMIC BOOK for the screen, it reads like a STORYBOARD for a movie anyway. Russel Crowe made up to appear older as in THE INSIDER. As the grissly aged angry Dark Knight. Brendan Fraser to play Superman. Vin Diesel as the Mutant Leader. Christopher Walken as the Joker. I KNOW THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN BUT THIS IDEA PISSES ON THE WHOLE BATS vs SUPES IDEA, WHICH HAS BEEN RIPPED KICKING AND SCREAMING FROM THIS VERY GRAPHIC NOVEL.
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:52 a.m. CST
Jude Law was a bold if curious choice but had at least the talent to possibly out it off. Ever since stumbling into Hollywood via H20 (in which he was outacted by everyone including Michael fucking Myers) he has lurked and shuffled through a variety of feeble projects. What exactly made someone think he could cut it as a leading man let alone a superhero?
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:53 a.m. CST
He's cheap. Only thing holding this guy back is his name, which I guess his manager should have done something about the minute Crudup stepped off the bus. There's one guy who's not earning his 10%.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:12 a.m. CST
Odd. I mean, I'm no Josh Hartnett fan, but I'm thinking he could pull. (No Larry, forget it.) Obviously this will be a young Bruce / young(er) Clark flick. Most likely "World's Finest: The First Meeting". And these two side by side could work nicely on the big screen. The problem I forsee now would be casting Lois as someone in her early twenties. Which means Courtney Cox-Arquette is out.(Thank god). And Catwoman and Harley would also have to be younger as well (that is, if they are indeed in the movie.)
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:13 a.m. CST
Ewan got suckered into that whole Star Wars prequel thing without looking at the (ultimately hackneyed) scripts, so he probably advised Jude against doing the same.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:19 a.m. CST
by Ambush Bug
Hollywood, ignore Harry's rant. Josh Hartnett is the closest thing to a Superman we can get. Patrick Winterburn, hell no. Too cheesey. More like a Captain Marvel than a Superman. Jude Law. Hell no times two. Too boney. Totally wrong. As much as I don't think Superman should be cast out of an issue of Teen Beat, I think Hartnett would do a fine job. He's a big guy (something Law is definitely not). And I'm not talking about how tall the actor is. I'm talking about how much girth and sinew the dude has. He looks like a strong guy. Jude looks like he would have trouble wearing a heavy sweater. Everyone says that we have to see a convincing Clark for this. I disagree. It was never a giant disguise. It's a pair of freaking glasses for god's sake. Reeve did a great job, but he was still a giant man wearing glasses. It's all part of the suspension of disbelief here folks. Clark has been walking around fooling people from the beginning and all he has done is wear a pair of glasses. As long as he can play up the nerdy act (and the guy can act, check out BLACK HAWK DOWN), he'll be fine. I want this film to be gold too, but short of casting an unknown, Josh Hartnett is okay by me. Now if Colin Farrell will just bow out too, this film might be good. One @$$holes opinion.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:28 a.m. CST
by Mutant X22
I have to say that i was not pleased after reading that Josh Hartnett was going to be playing Superman. But to tell the truth, if any of you actually still read comics, and im sure that most of you don't cuz your moms dont give you enough allowance on a weekly basis, i think that the way that the interaction between all-american Josh Hartnett and (Tigerland)Colin Farrel could have infinite possibilities. After all, Supes is the wide eyed, never losing hope, farmboy while Bats is the tough, gritty, a tad bit nihilistic warrior. And what is going to make the movie isnt the costumes(X-Men already proved this), it isn't going to be the expectations that most of us have based on the previous work of the actors involved in the film. It's basically going to come down to the relationships between our two main characters in the film. And i have faith. A script from the writer of Se7en and directed by Wolfgang Pederson. Get real, most of you guys that are bitching about how the movie is going to fail are the same MARKS that thought Spider-Man was going to be a miserable failure of a film. And look at you now, pre-ordering the film and raving to your friends, family, and anyone else that will listen about how great it was. Get over it. Enjoy the fact that this movie is actually going to get made and there is an incredible amount of talent behind the making of it. Now scram, it's way past your bedtime.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:39 a.m. CST
The main problem is that we are spoiled because in the past we have had two amazing Supermen: Geroge Reeves and Christopher Reeve respectively and it is very difficult, at least for me, to imagine anyone else in the roles (don't get me started on the Dean Cain and Smallville's homoerotic Clark Kent imagery). I have faith in Josh Hartnett; I think he can crack it. He does have that folksy charm of the Mid-West, he does have that heartbreaker smile needed for his encounters with Lois Lane. Apart from anything, we are getting a fucking Superman/Batman film: let's all be positive about it. To quote Vaughn and Favreau: "Vegas, baby, Vegas!"
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:41 a.m. CST
by jimi 23
I think he's the part, he could be the best opposite to farrel.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:44 a.m. CST
Jeez for a minute I thought Harry was talking about Josh Jackson from DAWSON'S CREEK. That's what I get for having a hypnotherapist totally remove the experience of seeing that piece of crap PEARL HARBOR movie from my memory...
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:46 a.m. CST
They already made a MASK OF THE PHANTASM movie. It was called MASK OF THE PHANTASM! It was in theaters and everything. You should get out of the house more. And there's no need to remake it in live action. It's fine just the way it is. If you think they should remake it live, then you are no less guilty of creative bankruptcy than the shumcks running Warner Brothers...
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:47 a.m. CST
Metron in a NEW GODS movie!
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:48 a.m. CST
by Eugene O
Gary Busey. Thank you and good night.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:49 a.m. CST
Bizarro. Vin Diesel as Bizarro, and he can kick both Die Fleidermensch's and Supe's asses.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:53 a.m. CST
Dean Cain must know a lot of buddies from the old neighborhood, surfer-types with good looks and big pecs. And Hawaiian features.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:55 a.m. CST
...now a non-Kryptonian Superman. What is this world coming to? sk
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:55 a.m. CST
Yeah, ... Jude Law is deffinately a much better choice for the role of SUPERMAN. Heck, ... if you're choosing a younger actor, I'm not sure there's a better choice than Jude Law. (Originally, I wasn't thrilled with Law. But compared to Josh Hartnett, I'd be so happy if Warner Bros. brought back Jude Law.) As for Colin Farrell, ... he's as bad a choice for Batman (if not worse) as Josh Hartnett is for Superman. Look at those eyes of Colin Farrell as he'd likely cry an ocean in a violent situation (for cryin' out loud). Batman is NOT a Moma's boy! -- If Sean Connery was in his prime, he would have been a great Batman! (He'd smack that Moma's boy plum silly!) Batman is intense, psychologically driven, ... giving him that animalistic edge even without the costume. Get someone who can play the role in an intimidating way, damn it. I want to shit my pants when Batman steps up to Superman and lays down the Law!!!!!
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:05 a.m. CST
It's only right... actually, Jim C could do either role. Anyhoo, roll on 2004.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:12 a.m. CST
by Ron McDonald
This totally blows my mind. I cannot believe that a studio is so inept to let Jude Law go. If he wants to approve the sequels let him. At least then the quility of the next few movies will be halfway decent. And what's up with Farrell? Everyone out there is drooling like demented fanboys. I mean, Farrell, come on! This guy looks like the hobo down the street, trying to score a few bucks for his next buy of crack. Farrell sucks the biggest. He's just terrible. And, to make matters worse, he's already in one comic book movie -- Daredevil. And he looks kind of dumb in that. If anything Warners should find someone other than Farrell. Christian Bale would be cool. Much more so than Farrell. And Jude Law would be much better than Hartnett. I think I've been scared for life after sitting through the crap called "Pearl Harbor" and "40 days and 40 nights." I'd rather go see the next Marvel super hero movie unless this movie gets a solid cast.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:13 a.m. CST
Paul Gross played the role of constable Benton Fraser (a Canadian mountie) in the show "Due South". He is a great theatrical actor and he looks straightfoward like Clark Kent/Superman. He would be ABSOLUTELY PERFECT as the man of steel.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:14 a.m. CST
Drop Colin Farrell and Josh Hartnett. Bring back Jude Law for Superman ... and get someone for the role of Batman who can intimidate men twice his size. (The costume can't do ALL the work!!!)
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:24 a.m. CST
Christian Bale for Superman, you know it makes sense
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:26 a.m. CST
fans were in an uproar about jude playing the man of tomorrow. now the role goes to josh hartnett. he's certainly more "american." oh well, i like the guy and i think he'll do fine. i have high hopes for the film but one thing disturbs me. Warner Bros refusing to promise quality sequels. damn. i thought they learned their lesson. i guess only time will tell. one thing is certain. jude law would've kicked all our asses. he would've been a superman.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:30 a.m. CST
Yes, that Paul Gross! The man was born to play Superman. I'm sure the majority of people on here probably have no idea who Paul Gross is. He's never been on "Seventeen," or made any "top ten sexiest men alive lists." His only major claim to fame was that he was the main character, a member of the RCMP, on "Due South." The show was on the air for over 4 years, but Mr. Gross also enjoys the stage. He's also an accomplished writer/director, but back to the topic at hand, THE MAN IS SUPERMAN! Seriously... it's him! He's the right age. He's the right look. He's a mild-mannered Canadian, yet he can also be an arrogant S.O.B. Superman requires two roles (sort of), and Paul Gross would nail them both! I can see him with the glasses on right now!!! If there's a better superman out there, I haven't seen him. PAUL GROSS IS SUPERMAN!!! Why don't the studios take risks? I'd be surprised if any of these clowns have even picked up an Archie comic, let alone, anything starring the "man of steel." Why else would they be casting people like Josh Hartnett and Jude Law to play Superman? They're just taking two of the hottest young actors of the moment, regardless of their abilities/looks... I've enjoyed everything that Jude's ever done, but I wasn't ecstatic about him playing "Supes." Then it got worse... Josh Hartnett?!? If you're a DC fan... hell, even if you're just a casual reader, do a search on Mr. Gross. Go ahead, try and explain to me how he's a worse choice than Josh Hartnett... Harry, PLEASE get on this... USE THOSE CONNECTIONS. If not, could you find some Kryptonite and bring it up to the great white north, so that poor Paul won't have to live through JOSH HARTNETT's SNL SKETCH OF SUPERMAN... I thought you needed more than the latest "who's hot/who's not" to be a casting agent in Hollywood, but apparently not. Isn't it good to know these half-wits make thrice as much money as you, by ruining dream projects...
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:30 a.m. CST
I am sure the script is great and Peterson has made some awesome movies, BUT why do this. I am not a big comic fan and this does not excite me the way it may others, but is this really a feature that NEEDS to be made. Batmam "Dark Knight" sounds better. A new Superman film would be fine, but to be honest, that fanchise dried a while ago and would need a lot of help to come back. And Harnett, who can be super, ain't it!
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:34 a.m. CST
jim caviezel could nail either batman or superman. But he'd never do this movie. Too cheesy. I find it appropriate that farrell and hartnett - two guys with no talent yet seem to be big - will camp it up.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:39 a.m. CST
It shouldn't really suprise me because Paul is Superman, but still... to see another similar post in such a short period of time was pretty cool. Casting Paul to play "Supes" feels about as right as casting Patrick Stewart to play Charles Xavier... Why aren't they seeing it?
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:42 a.m. CST
Yeah, ... Josh Hartnett and Colin Farrell, ... if you're listening, ... you're gonna have to really push yourselves if you wanna make me a believer. It would be cool if you guys would work out like mad men. -- Josh, ... work on thickening that neck and broadening those shoulders (think Howe Long in the role with the trademark black hair and eyebrows). Colin, ... bulk up, thicken your neck, ... and convince me that you can kick any butt in the WWF through your bulked-up physicality and your acting chops (so-to-speak). -- You guys have some serious work ahead of you.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:45 a.m. CST
by Ron McDonald
I've always enjoyed the Batman movies. The worst would probably be Batman Forever. One of the reasons I hate it so much is because it's a mix of both the darker Batman, and the later light, Schumacher Batman in Batman and Robin. But, nonetheless, none of the Batman films have really represented the character as portrayed in the comics. Spider-Man fans received an excellent adaption, and I think Batman fans deserve an excellent adaption too. Warners should put Paul Dini and Bruce Timm in charge of a Batman movie. Those guys were at the top of their game when Batman TAS was on TV. I watch JLA just to hear Kevin Conroy's dead on Dark Knight portrayal.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:54 a.m. CST
I doubt they are going to use spandex again because that went out in the 70's and rubber is stupid for the man of steel, what are they going to call him the man of rubber, wait a minute, thats Michael Douglas. Why would the man of steel wear armor out of rubber, so I wonder what they are going to make Superman's outfit out of. I hope they fill in Batman's cowl though with white glasses where the holes are instead of darkening the skin around the eyes, it's lazy and stupid. If Daredevil and Spiderman can do it (costumes done by the same guy) then take some tips, put some time and effort in your work.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:55 a.m. CST
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:55 a.m. CST
by EL Duderino
Jude Law as superman would've been great!! And all WARNER BROS. would have had to do is ensure that the story was up to par!! WHEN DOES A GREAT STORY MEAN LESS BOX OFFICE?! WHERE ARE THE LOGISTICS HERE?!? "Hmm, so he'll do sequels only if the quality is there... nah better not risk it." WARNER BROS. doesn't get it, they're scared shitless that by asking for quality Jude Law really means that he'll do whatever he damn pleases to the story in order to ensure its to his liking. THIS IS NOT THE CASE AT ALL!! Besides, it's not as if Jude Law doesn't have a keen sense of what is good and otherwise, look at his track record thus far. He knows what quality is!! MAKE AMENDS DAMMIT!! PREPARE TO GO THE WAY OF MGM IF YOU CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS THIS WAY!! AND FOR GOD'S SAKE DROP THAT SUPER TWINS MOVIE, NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT TRIPE!!
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:58 a.m. CST
blond hair. those eyes and a great story.
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:01 a.m. CST
I can't wait to see SUPERSTONER in action. Hartnett, has so far, wisely chosen roles that cater to his styles... This role does not. Back out before it's too late. Why don't they just cast Seth Green as the Riddler? This is terrible...
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:01 a.m. CST
John Howlett Jr, you are a genius! I was exited about seeing Law try and nail Superman, but I was finding it hard to envisage; I just couldn't see him in that role. This is what exited me about his initial choice, it was interesting. I can imagine Josh Harnett in the role, but unfortunatly this makes me feel sick and unhappy;). I have no interest in seeing him as Superman at all. PAUL GROSS on the other hand is totally fucking perfect! He looks the part, certainly has the ability to play the part and he doesn't carry any celebrity baggage. My only concerns are that he has too much integrity to sign the contract that Law wouldn't, I can't see him giving up that last inch (;D). I've just checked him out on IMDB to find much to my surprise his age, 43. I haven't seen him on TV in a few years, but unless he's really let it go he doesn't look anywhere near his age whatsoever. Anybody who's reading this with any influence whatsoever please consider PAUL GROSS!! He'd be SO good in this role, I promise you. If he isn't then you can come and shove broken porcelain up my Batcave until WB finally feel they've made enough sequels of this;).
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:06 a.m. CST
by Karl Childers
He had the Clark Kent look down pat in that horrible Kevin Bacon invisible man movie!
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:08 a.m. CST
Sorry about the ninth grade subject line, but I am pressed for time. THe worst actor since I really don't know. No, I mean it. He is bad. Really bad. His continued success absolutely baffles me. And his looks? He looks like the kind stupid but possibly secretly sensitve guy that girls think they like in 7th or 8th grade and then grow out of. Or so you would think. Whatever, I guess...Hollywood sucks my balls. No really they are sucking them now.. Easy Warner's, now the left one, there you go.....
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:12 a.m. CST
We all know he's perfect. What can we do? Nothing... Petitions are shite, but perhaps WB will come to their senses and realize that when you have a film that is as large as BATMAN vs. SUPERMAN, you don't need "starpower." People will flock to this film, but the word of mouth will be terrible (read K-19) if you cast Josh Hartnett. Fortunately for you, we (the fanboys of cinema) have gift-wrapped the ultimate casting choice to play Superman. If you accept it, you'll look like a genius, while we continue to bitch about everything else you guys f_ck up! You folks should have learned from the BATMAN franchise... WORD OF MOUTH will make or break you and if you actually sign, "SQUINTO - The injun," instead of Paul Gross, you're going to be BROKE! Convince them to do the right thing! Free Paul Gross!
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:22 a.m. CST
I don't know if there is an known actor out there that is totally right for the role. I'll throw Victor Webster, Brennan from Mutant X, out there. I think he has the right build and athletic ability but I'd be worried if he had the acting chops to pull it off. That seems to be the trade off, sacrificing "the look" in favor of acting proficiency.
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:33 a.m. CST
by Pepper Sinclaire
If you don't like reading Harry's posts STOP FUCKING READING THEM! Or else shut up and let the rest of us with better things to do than bitch about nothing (note irony) read 'em! Fuck's sake! P$
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:34 a.m. CST
Has anyone thought to ask Mr Reeve if he'd like to give it another shot? (CG being what it is and all)
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:38 a.m. CST
by King Rex
While Hartnet doesn't have the character in his personality he does have the right look and could visually play that role a whole of a lot easier than Law. It would be incredible to see an actor of Law's caliber in the Superman character. But then again it all depends on the script. Superman can be stuck in that "must do the right thing" paladin attitude with little character opportunity.
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:41 a.m. CST
If only someone at MGM would read the views on this board and realise that we, the people MGM are selling this project to, unanimously agree that Josh Hartnett is wrong wrong wrong for this role! This Talkback is a good as a friggin' customer survey on how Hartnett will be accepted as Superman so why don't they take some friggin' notice? Can anyone actually see Hartnett as Superman? Sure he's 6ft 3ins and has the pyhsique to look good in lycra (if thats the way they go with the suit) but what else made MGM think Hartnett would be good for the role other than him not arguing about signing on for a shitload of crap sequels? I thought there was a mistake when Law was being cast for the role. I mean, a real thesp being cast in the role of Superman? A guy who can really act and brings so much to a role was being cast as Superman? It really would've been intriguing to see and he'd have been so great as Clark Kent. Now wot the fuck does Hartnett have to offer? What will be his take on this? I have no idea becoz as far as I'm concerned he's a poor fucking actor. In the world of Freddy Prinze Jrs and Rachel Leigh Cooks he's fuckin' Brando but throw him in with the big boys and he sticks out like a sore thumb! Remember the opening scene of BHD when the militia were shooting the starving Somalians? I can't remember the line but but the way he delivered it made me cringe! He was good as the rebel in The Faculty but hw was up against a load of teen actors so we can't really use that as a yardstick of his acting ability. We know Farrell can act but this film is essentially a vehicle for him to hit the bigtime. Law was the real "actor" in this and Farrell and him would've bounced off eachother perfectly! What a shame MGM, what a friggin' shame!
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:47 a.m. CST
Did you guys see "Black Hawk Down"? I mean, Hartnett is a talented guy. You people are going off as if they decided to put Chris Klein in the Superman costume.
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:48 a.m. CST
by Ron McDonald
I just looked up Paul Gross on Yahoo. He's not Superman. I know I'll practically be lynched for saying this, but of all the actors I've seen in awhile, Dean Cain might just be the best Superman. I know Lois and Clark sucked, but Cain wasn't that bad. Though I thought he looked more like Superman when he was Clark Kent. For example, when he was "Clark" he didn't slick his hair back, and it just made him look more like Superman to me. Besides, Cain's pretty cool. I always tune into Ripley's Believe it or Not. For my money he'd be better than Hartnett. I still think Farrell should be replaced. He looks like a gopher on smack. -- McDonald Out!!!
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:51 a.m. CST
Both Paul Gross and Warburton have the right physicality and the right maturity to play either parts, unless this is supposed to be their first meeting and both are still in their 20s, like in the animated Batman and Superman movie.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:17 p.m. CST
Hartnett could be a decent Superman (he can't be any worse than Dean Cain and Tom Welling), given the right script and director. Then again, WORLD'S FINEST is pretty much the last hurrah for the classic Superman. If it doesn't take, and the public doesn't embrace the traditional version of the character, the Jon Peters/McG version will wind up becoming the "official" Superman (at least in the public eye)...and you know that Peters will do everything he can to make sure his Superman is nothing like the classic version (then again, the Peters/McG version will be made regardless of how WORLD'S FINEST performs and the box office, so the point is moot). WORLD'S FINEST is likely the last chance for the traditional Supes to shine, and if Hartnett can pull the role off, then by all means let him play it. At this point it's looking pretty bleak for Superman, and Petersen's the only guy who seems to want to set things right. If he decides to go with Hartnett, then I'm willing to trust his judgment, because he cares about the material.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:18 p.m. CST
by Village Idiot
Hey everybody, humble AICN @$$hole comic reviewer Village Idiot here. You know, the great thing about the @$$holes is not only the fact that we know comics, but that we have a keen sense of transcendent pop culture aesthetic. In other words, we recognize that the most relevant values in Superman are better served by Josh Harnett than by Jude Law. Law may be a fine actor, but he is grossly inappropriate for presenting certain very important qualities of Superman/Clark Kent; the qualities that have made the character strike a chord with the collective unconscious of the world for the past 75 years. I'm sorry, a small, somewhat fey British actor just doesn't cut it. On the other hand, an actor like Harnett, who in every part he plays seems to have a degree of earnest soul waiting in reserve, may have the stuff. One thing that I think we can all agree on is the fact that Christopher Reeve set an impossibly high water mark for anyone, especially an established actor, to meet. At this stage of the game, and considering the way this project is going, Harnett is the best we could hope for.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:21 p.m. CST
Dean Caine... Wait a second, you're not kidding... Ex-football, no talent Dean Caine? You want him to play superman just because he's done it before? Because you think he reads a mean teleprompter on Ripley's Believe it or not!?! Paul Gross is a better actor. Paul has a much cooler, deeper voice. Gross is taller. Paul can actually look scary and charming... all at the same time. Most importantly, Paul Gross doesn't bring the baggage that guys like Dean Caine bring. He's a fresh face. He'll allow you get sucked into the movie. you'll believe that you're watching Superman. The face is new, so you won't feel like you're just staring at some actor doing a mock-superman sketch. Unless Hartnett dopes me up with his ample supply of narcotics, I won't be able to accept "SQUINTO," flying through the air and saving people... I'm open to suggestions, but until somebody metions another actor that can bring as much to this role as Paul Gross can, I'm sticking with the Canuck!
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:28 p.m. CST
Perfect casting. He would fool a lot of people by wearing glasses. At least more than Nicholas f**king Cage would have. Harnett will almost suddenly mess this thing up by can you imagine Cage, I mean that really would be horrendous.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:31 p.m. CST
and make it a comedy.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:33 p.m. CST
Every actor mentioned within the string here has their own merits. Colin Farrel is a brawny man's man and Jude Law is an actor's consumate professional who could certainly take on the task at hand. However... we're missing some key Hollywood stock that would bring layers of depth to what is sounding like a well written script. For example: I would like to see Danny Glover as the millionaire who tries to build a hotel over Wayne Manor causing Bruce Wayne to become Superman's mortal enemy because Brainiac (played by Ben Gazarra) tells Bruce that it was Superman's idea to begin with. Superman (in my version, played by Peter O'Toole) will be confused as to why Batman (played by Haley Joel Osment) starts writing him nasty emails, so he flys to his fortress of Solitude (in an underwater lair underwater off the shore of Seattle) and finds out that the Danny Glover character is going to build a hotel THERE as well!!! Well, things get heated up when the Koolaid Jug guy breaks down a wall screaming "Oh Yeah", floods Superman's fortress of solitude and the President (Josh Hartnett in his PROPER ROLE) gets Superman and Batman to make up and shake hands.... and to be his new butlers. Somehow or another there's a meteor that ends up blowing up the world as well. I have no idea what a bat-man is.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:35 p.m. CST
Who's Johnny Depp playing?
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:38 p.m. CST
by Ebon Far
Warner Brothers + superhero films = SHIT!!! Richard Donner's Superman is the only one I will acknowledge. DC Comics films want to be Marvel Comics films when they grow up. That is all.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:40 p.m. CST
Unless they're trying to go with the vary young ala Smallville (aka Krypton Creek) they should cast Vincent D. As Batman. Think about it. He has the same slow burn intensity as Alex Ross' interpretation of the character and he would be perfect. Just one man's humble opinion, but these other actors are just too young and will bring no gravitas to the rolls at all.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:50 p.m. CST
Bill (The Shat) Shatner and Leo(The Nim) Nimoy would be hot! hoT!! HOT!!! as Supes and Bats,... Watcha think! Good Idea?? or am I just taking outta my pumped out ass.....
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:50 p.m. CST
OKAY people...i am a pretty big JOSH HARTNET fan...i have met him, he is a very nice down to earth guy. AND YES he does have talent..NOT of the JUDE LAW quality but very few do. Now even though i am a fan of JOSH i dont think he is right for this role..but who knows! lets just go back a little bit. Christopher Reeve...no one wanted him to be Supes...but he was far and away the best superman ever.. THen There was Mike Keaton...once again everyone thought ARE YOU CRAZy..but lookin on it now...it would have been CRAZY to go with anyone else. EVen recent movies like XMEn..WHO THE FUCK IS HUGH JACKMAN...i will tell you he was born to play WOLVERINE(PERFECT) ANd even now with TOBEY as SPIDEY! He totally became peter parker and was geat in the movie.. I know i am ranting and most of you probably want me to SHUT UP...all i am saying is We have a good script...A GREAT DIRECtor.. and a up and coming star with talent..so lets just sit back, relaxe and see what happens!
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:52 p.m. CST
There's only one Superman, and it's Christopher Reeve, they have to bring him back. He hasn't been in any movies in a long time, so he's probably just sitting around doing nothing. We should start one of those online petitions or something...
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:53 p.m. CST
Nuke the whole thing from space, it's the only way to be sure.
Aug. 12, 2002, 12:58 p.m. CST
I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Now THAT is the Batman vs. Superman movie I want to see. By the way does this subject line sound like a 1970's Neil Simon play?
Aug. 12, 2002, 1 p.m. CST
by Ron McDonald
Gross does suck. Even his name sucks. Cain, on the other hand, could strap on the cape again. He's better than Gross
Aug. 12, 2002, 1 p.m. CST
Don't worry my friend, you did the right thing and you won't be trapped in the chains of another shitty Warner Brothers franchise. You know, i hear, unbelievable as it sounds, that Batman and Robin had a very decent script before Warners decided to convert it into a toy commercial, is there any truth in this? If Jude really wants to do a superhero movie then he should wait for Fantastic Four to get off the ground, which should be really soon according to Avi Arad, whose on the biggest high of his life it seems as Warner's continue to machete and beltch and fart and pee and vomit all over any big screen potential DC comics characters have any more.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:04 p.m. CST
by Ron McDonald
I don't know the exact name of the movie, but both Michael Keaton and Christopher Reeve were in the movie. It may have been about a couple of journalists or something, I don't remember. Does anyone know the name of the movie I'm talking about?
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:07 p.m. CST
by Clara Bow
Couldn't agree more-- Chris Reeve IS superman, but you seem to be forgetting how hard it is to fly when you're in a wheelchair. (oh, yeah.) Jude Law would be an excellent replacement-- saw him on Broadway once and he ate the scenery, like watching fire burn up the stage, it was incredible-- but I still think of him as a bit of a kid. So is Colin Ferrel (and so is Tobey Maguire, for that matter). Whatever happened to the MEN? Superheros used to be men (and women for that matter-- Wonder Woman). They were created to fill the void of some invincible all-powerful hero needed by a society disillusioned and shattered after witnessing world war and mass destruction. They were meant to be an everyman turned indestructable-- what we could all aspire to become in an ideal world, not some kid still recovering from his last acne breakout who figures out new and interesting ways to screw Kirsten Dunst, (not, by the way, a task which seems to require superhuman effort). WHERE ARE ALL THE MEN???!!! Oh, yeah, this is Hollywood.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:10 p.m. CST
by Eugene O
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:15 p.m. CST
..what's their audience? Making a solo Supes movie, and you don't give a fuck about the fans - you just want to reel in the mainstream audience? Fine, cast Josh Harnett, throw in your giant spiders, sassy gay black robots and what have you. But the very title of this project connotes that this is a GEEK film. Pick an audience, Warner Bros. This studio really has no idea whether they're coming or going. This movie is being made to capitalize on the success (and future successes) of the Marvel films. X-Men and Spider-Man played to the mainstream audience - but what's so great about them is that at the same time they were completely faithful to the geek point of view. The material was handled correctly, the right actors were cast and the best directors were brought on board. I hope that Daredevil, Hulk, X-Men 2, Punisher and so on meet these same standards. Without the geek portion of the audience, these movies will not be successful. We're the ones that saw Spidey and X-Men and Lord of the Rings and even Attack of the Clones a million times in theaters. Because they got it RIGHT (AOTC not withstanding, though I still liked it plenty). *GEEK* RIGHT. Mainstream America has no idea what right is. They'll go see Spider-Man or XXX - it's all the same to them. But these geek films spread by geek word of mouth. Basically Warner Bros. is completely ignoring this sect of the film population with the casting of Josh Harnett. They're going balls-out for the mainstream vote. It's not going to happen, WB. This film is not going to be the titan they want it to be - not with flash in the pan teen idol talent. They've got a decent director on board, and Collin Ferrel is cool, but Jude Law was the real stitch that got me interested in this project - Whoa, what if the WB DOESN'T screw this up? But appeasing "fans" is not on their agenda. They want the 14 year old girls. I know. They're a company. Here to make money. But Spider-Man and X-Men and LOTR should have taught them: you please the fans, you reap the financial benefits. What Josh Harnett as Supes tells me is they've learned nothing. Now it's possible he'll be decent. We haven't seen frame one of the guy yet. But compared to what Jude Law could have brought to the role...I'm disappointed.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:15 p.m. CST
I mean, just go type in his name in the IMDB and check out his picture. HE IS CLARK KENT!! Also, Sony, Bruce Campbell is Mysterio... so remember that when part three roles around! Love - The Virgin hunting Kraken
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:16 p.m. CST
That's sort of funny, dude, in a sick way . Good one. :)
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:20 p.m. CST
Think about it. He's 6'3, well built, dark hair, blue eyes, he's actually got some acting chops (see Frequency or Ride with the Devil, or Thin Red Line for versatility), and he's a very moral, boy scout type. What more do you people need? Josh Hartnett?... Bad move. Jim Caviezel?... It's like pissing in the ocean... you can't miss.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:21 p.m. CST
The first Chris Reeve Superman had possible the most inappropriate actor in the title role. Not Reeve, but the kid who played him as an 18-year-old, who looked nothing like Superman, and also nothing like Reeve. Crazy. But Christopher Reeve was the definitive Superman, and that can't be repeated. I know a lot of people kvetched about Keaton when Batman was being made, but when the film showed up, and it was good, that didn't make them wrong. Although he acted well in a good movie, he still wasn't the Batman of the comics, and the definitive Batman movie has surely yet to be made. So what I'm saying is, this could still be a very good movie, it could go in my DVD collection, but Josh Hartnett will never, NEVER, be Superman to me, or I think, most other viewers. And neither would Jude Law. There isn't a famous actor around today who looks like Superman to my mind, the only way they'll get it right is to cast an unknown, and that ain't gonna happen with those producers and that studio. Just accept that maybe, someday, they'll get it right, but not this time. Say 10 years from now, an all-CG Superman/Batman will be the way forward.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:23 p.m. CST
True, he's not got the acting ability of Jude Law, but he *can* act. Those of you who are babbling about Pearl Harbor and 40 Days/40 Nights need to watch BHD and The Virgin Suicides. He has been a couple of better movies, you know. PH was pure crap from beginning to end and, for some straaaange reason, I don't think that was all Josh's fault. Call me crazy, but I think that had more to do with Bay than one actor in his first really big role. Even in the role of Danny in PH, he was believable as the "good" guy...the guy fresh off the farm, a bit naive...a real "aw, shucks" kind of guy. People, that's Clark Kent. Naive, earnest, determined to do right, etc. He's also quite capable of playing darker characters with more intensity and has done so in several of his roles. Both of these qualities are going to be needed to play Superman/Kent effectively and Hartnett should be able to do it well. As someone in the chatroom pointed out, the reason the glasses worked as a disguise when worn by Christopher Reeve is that Reeve changed things such as his demeanor, posture, etc, in order to differentiate between the two and Hartnett is certainly a competent enough actor to do the same. He's also got the physique to play Superman, which is important since I don't want *my* Superman to look as if he's Gwenneth Paltrow's anemic, dark haired brother. I also would like to see a Superman with a bit more sensuality to him than Reeve possessed. Even back in 1978, when I was still a young tyke and walking 5 miles (one way, of course) barefoot through the snow to the movie theater, I recognized the fact that there was absolutely, positively NOTHING believable about the attraction between Superman and Lois Lane. I'll even place a vote on them for Worst Onscreen Couple if Harry ever does a poll on that topic. I don't want Superman to look as if he's in a porno or on a cover of a bodice ripper romance novel, so don't start whining about that, but I *do* want to believe that there's a reason Lois Lane is kissing him other than that she was paid a lot of money to do so!___Finally, I'll end the rant with this...it's a different movie, made by different people and using different actors. If you're expecting to see the Christopher Reeve version of Superman, you're going to be disappointed no matter who signs on the dotted line.____Bee
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:26 p.m. CST
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Aug. 12, 2002, 1:30 p.m. CST
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Aug. 12, 2002, 1:33 p.m. CST
But still wrong. Hi kids, Jon Quixote here, you might remember me from such talkback posts as "Yap Yap Cormorant" and "And Evil Reader: Neither literate, nor all that evil. Discuss." And I'm here to tell you that Josh Harnett is the lesser of two evils, simply because he's a big bumpkin who will at least fill the screen the way Superman should. However, he's also Josh Harnett, which means the moment he puts on the tights, it immediately becomes a movie about how Josh Harnett plays Superman, just like it would have been a movie about how Jude Law plays Superman or how John Travolta (remember THAT rumor?) plays Superman. And once you have that, then the majesty of seeing Superman on the big screen is immediately diminished. Superman is an icon, a movie star unto himself, and he should be played by someone who brings no baggage to the role whatsoever, so that when you're watching the movie, all you see is Superman on the big screen. A relative unknown is the way to go, and until or unless the WB takes that route, we're basically arguing the pros and cons of whatever casting stunt is hot right now.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:36 p.m. CST
Just like he is trying to do now with Josh. Some friend ! Jude had a hard time trying to convince Warners that audiences would forget his creepy serial-killer shtick in 'Perdition'. He was that close to signing, until Harry jumped the gun and made a premature announcement, scaring off Jude who did NOT want to be fodder for certain internet geeks, BEFORE he even signed. He assumed the news was somehow leaked to Harry (by the studio) to pressure him into making concessions and he backed off. I've noticed Harry likes to make bold statements as if they are studio 'official', when in fact they are conceived (much like the DEFINITE shooting of 'Indiana Jones IV' this summer ?!) to get people coming back to his site for his laughable 'world-exclusive' scoops. As for Josh, the man IS a 6' 3" ACTOR, able to play ANYTHING put before him. His mid-west look works for the small-town upbringing of Kal-El and his squinty eyes are that much closer to a Spock-type alien look. Give the guy a break and let him do a 'Keaton' with this part. As for you Harry, any guy that is in bed with Disney over anything (including the horrible 'Reign of Fire') has some serious credibily problems with the rest of the film community ...
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:37 p.m. CST
Bruce Campbell is Superman.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:37 p.m. CST
Okay Jude Law would have been better but come on lets give Josh a chance.I can think of many worse picks and hey we dont know maybe things could work out great-have we seen them togeterg before?They could work well off each other.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:42 p.m. CST
I thought when it was reported on The Superman Homepage and Dark Horizons, I thought it was just a rumour... This cannot come true, I thought this film would finally be different - we don't need a hunky, hip, teen Superman, we need a quality actor Superman! Maybe not even Jude Law is right (even though I think he'd be cool), but Jesus on a stick - Josh '40 Days and 40 Nights' Hartnett (or whatever) is not right, why do these things always have to f@&*k up at the last minute?
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:43 p.m. CST
by Han Ol' Buddy
I recently watched the excellent "Black Hawk Down" on DVD and I had to say that, while Josh Hartnett" is a likeable guy and plays likeable characters on-screen, he was the least believable character in the movie. Now, I read the book over 2 years ago. Twice actually. The account was friggin' gripping. The horror (to quote a phrase). Ridley Scott did a greeat job translating it to the screen. I envisioned the bad-ass, balls to the wall, hotshot Delta Force doing their own thing while the Rangers with zero battle experience tried their best to stay alive. The body count, the carnage, the terror of a night in hell. It was all there. But, Josh Hartnett was put in this film to give it a face to the masses. To be put on the movie poster and to draw in the people. I don't know who I envisioned as Sergeant Matt Eversmann, but it certainly wasn't him. I don't see Hartnett in many of his roles. Maybe the lead character of Tomcats 2?
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:46 p.m. CST
It would have made the movie more respectable if it had an actor like Jude Law playing Superman, but his reasons for not wanting to do the project are completely understandable. Hopefully Harry's right about Colin Farrell being Batman, because he's perfect for the role.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:48 p.m. CST
With all due respect to Chris Reeves, Caviezel is the best pick for a Superman type you're going to find... that's still walking. I dunno. Maybe if his last name were Garrett or Rockhurst or something cool sounding that lays better on a marquee, maybe then he'd break from obscurity.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:50 p.m. CST
WB needs to think about this. They are going to mess it up by casting a generic prettyboy flavor of the week instead of somebody more appropriate for the role. Colin Farrell, yes he is good for the role of Batman, but let's think about Superman. SUPERMAN. SUPER-MAN. What is "Super" about JOSH HARTNETT? He looks like he should be slinging lattes at Starbucks, not saving the universe. Do better than this, or this movie will not see any of my money.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:55 p.m. CST
by Village Idiot
It's amazing how well the @$$holes know their stuff. At least today, anyway.
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:56 p.m. CST
Just when i convinced myself that they'll do good they messed it all up. Peterson+Law+Farrell+ possibly good script= a movie I would see. How can anyone go from Jude Law to Josh hartnett? You'd have to skip five million people on the list before getting to hartnett. I say we all just completely disregard this movie. No 100 million+ box office tally for this one! No mention of this movie at schools and offices like spiderman. Now on we devote ourselves to the Hulk, X2 and spidey 2!
Aug. 12, 2002, 1:57 p.m. CST
I truly believe he will, even if he died the next day, it'll happen. He wants it bad enough and he sure as hell deserves it. Just thought i'd share that with the talkback world.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2 p.m. CST
by BEARison Ford
in case you missed it.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:01 p.m. CST
Hey, does anyone watch CSI, the only reason Jerry Bruckheimer should be allowed to live another day? George Eads, the actor who plays Nick Stokes, should be a definite consideration for the role of Superman. Tall, buffed, extremely attractive yet still possesses that slightly dorky, good 'ol boy persona (he's from Texas). Seems about the right age, too, to play opposite Farrell. CSI doesn't offer too much opportunity for him to display deep, meaningful character analysis, but it's worth a shot. George Eads, rock on. Beats the shit outta Hartnett, anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'd fuck his brains out, but Man of Steel he ain't.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:04 p.m. CST
At least according to imdb. Makes law look like Andre the fuckin Giant. Even if he were prefect in every other way for one of these roles, that is just too damn short.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:07 p.m. CST
by Village Idiot
Again, I have I hard time seeing what a small, somewhat fey Englishman would bring to the role besides perhaps annoying revisonism.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:07 p.m. CST
by Darth Siskel III
THat is some shitty casting!! Josh Hartnett would make a better BIZARRO !!!!!
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:08 p.m. CST
I made these up real quick to see who looked right, check out http://www.southpawfilms.com/superman and you tell me what you think!
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:15 p.m. CST
Just knew that Jude Law as Superman was too good to be true.Have nothing against Josh Hartnett but Law would have been sensational in the role. Please beg him to come back to the project Warner Brothers!
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:16 p.m. CST
... or does Josh Hartnett look like a young TOMMY LEE JONES? Hey maybe that'll work. Josh is Superman and TLJ is Jor-el... or not.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:18 p.m. CST
Every film I've seen him in. He has the same gravel, drawn-out ( I just smoked a huge fattie ) way of speaking. A lot of people think that's cool... I know I did in the faculty, but it's starting to wear thin. And yes, he's the same guy in the Virgin Suicides...He has absolutely NAILED that whole, "I know I'm cool, because I don't try and be cool thing" because that's Josh Hartnett. I've seen him in interviews AND HE'S JUST LIKE ANY ONE OF YOUR STONER BUDDIES, which is cool... EXCEPT WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As Superman, I'm frightened. I'm telling you flat out that IT WON'T WORK. It's actually about as bad as it could get...I don't see him smiling and saving the day. I don't see him flying in the air. I don't see this role playing off of ANYTHING he has to offer as Josh Hartnett. He's NOT SUPERMAN; not even close. If we have to look at him up there, we'll see Josh Hartnett. It'll be ridiculous... Casting an unknown takes guts, but it's happened before. To all those people who think Reeves embodied Superman, I swear to you... PAUL GROSS BRINGS EVERYTHING REEVES BROUGHT AND THEN SOME! Just because he's decided to do other things with his life (writing/directing) doesn't mean he wasn't BORN TO PLAY THIS ROLE. Gross LOVES Canada. He wasn't about to sell-out, and he's picky of his roles, so he decides to just write books, etc... He's happily married and doesn't care about "glitz and glamour." To the person that mentioned the casting of Hugh Jackman, or (orginally) Chris Reeves, or anybody that was considered risky at first...I assure you that if PAUL GROSS was given this role, he would EASILY move into the upper echelon of leading men. There's no need to be retarted, if you've never seen this Canuck act, or heard him talk that's fine. Just admit it and be done with it. Don't jump on the bandwagon and start comparing him to some "SEVENTEEN" magazine star, just because he's everywhere you look. Wizard magazine thought Gross would be the perfect superman, hopefully... so will WB.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:19 p.m. CST
when was the last time a studio had the balls to cast an unknown in such a major role? I'll admit I don't have the encyclopedic memory of movie roles that most of you here seem to have, but I don't remember this happening. Plus, Hartnett's not had a defining role such as this character and that may detract from people's ability to see him as Superman. He's either been a supporting actor or was part of a large ensemble cast and, no, I don't count 40 Days/40 Nights, which seems to be the battle cry of all those opposed to him portraying Superman. I might if I had seen it, but it looked ignorant enough just from the trailers that I decided not to watch it unless all the copies of Wing Commander were already rented.____Bee
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:28 p.m. CST
How about X-Men. The pivotal role of Wolverine. I didn't know who the heck Hugh Jackman was, therefore I was just watching Wolverine on the screen. And it was awesome! Sure, you can argue they had other sorta names like Stewart and McKellan in other roles, but this movie could do that as well. A name for Batman, Luthor, Lois Lane, etc.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:42 p.m. CST
...Christian Bale, something I told anyone who would listen back when Nic Cage FINALLY quit being the frontrunner for any new big screen revival...Colin Farrell is a decent pick as Batman as I honestly feel he can handle the part, although I have to wonder why WB would want one of the stars of the next big Marvel movie in their properties film, but thats just me...my choice for Batman is David Boreanz, and yes I fully expect to be attacked for THAT request...as for Russell Crowe as Batman in The Dark Knight Returns, err, no, instead I choose Kurt Russell who, by the way, does not need make-up to pull off an aging Batman. The God Complex has spoken
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:45 p.m. CST
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Aug. 12, 2002, 2:51 p.m. CST
by Gary Yogurt
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:51 p.m. CST
I can't believe some of what I've read on these posts, kids. I gotta get this out of my system. 1) It's MARVEL, not "Marval." 2) MGM is not making this movie, Warner Brothers is. This should be very very very easy to remember, because WB owns DC Comics and has the rights to both characters. 3) The teaming of Batman and Superman could be sustainable over several pictures, because there used to be a comic-book series called "World's Finest" that did it once a month. Admittedly, the stories ended up beig Superman moving a mountain while Batman makes popcorn, but it was a series with more than one issue. 4) I'm pretty sure the person who said Winterburn mean Warburton. Patrick Warburton is fun as hell as the Tick, but both he and Bruce Campbell (who would be tons o' fun as Supes) are two old if they're going with Colin Farrell as Batman. 5) Younger less buff superheroes can be done and interesting to watch, go check out Smallville sometime. Tom Welling is not as built as the Alex Ross Superman, but he doesn't need to be. 6) Christopher Reeve, God Bless 'im, is in a wheelchair! He has wasted away because he's paralyzed from the neck down! Yes, he was da bomb as Supes back in the 70's and he's always the first movie-Superman that comes to my mind, but even if he wasn't crippled and breathing through a trach-tube he'd still be too old to be Superman against a younger Batman. 7) If Christian Bale was in the kind of shape he was in "American Psycho" then I'd be interested in him playing Superman. Yes, Cage and Hartnett are both actors, but that doesn't mean they can be every character. Sometimes you have to go with who is best for the part. Lucy Liu is a babe, but she would have been all wrong as Elektra. Cage and Hartnett are not my top choices for Supes, but at least Hartnett is closer than Cage. Jude Law would have been interesting, but they're building a franchise at WB, and obviously not remembering or not caring about how badly they screwed the Bat. Personally, I would rather this go on the back burner and we put Colin Farrell on Batman: Year One, kick-start the Bat, then think about a World's Finest movie. 8) Harry, go back and watch those old-school Fliescher Superman 'toons again, Supes was damn squinty back then. -- SPYder, out.
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:57 p.m. CST
BATMAN: James Earl Jones SUPERMAN: Steve Guttenberg CATWOMAN: Kathy Bates JOKER: Carl Reiner BRAINIAC: Tom Arnold LOIS LANE: Whoppie Goldberg TRUST ME!!! I'm in 'The Biz', I know what I'm talking about!!!
Aug. 12, 2002, 2:59 p.m. CST
Jackman was still only one actor in a larger group of Xmen characters. He took the part and now no one else can honestly imagine Wolverine being played by anyone else and I think Hartnett can do the same with Superman. Now, to us, Superman will *always* be Chris Reeve, but as we all know the movie industry isn't going to cater to a small group of die-hard movie geeks and the younger people who haven't seen Superman or have dismissed it because it's an older movie have no such idealistic image in their minds. As far as casting "names" in the other roles, how much of a big name is Farrell to the average person anyway? I'm sure some will say they've heard of him, but he still doesn't have the box office draw of the bigger, more famous stars. Unless they do manage to get well-known stars in the other parts, they're going to be looking for leads that at least have people saying, "Oh, yeah, he was in <random movie title here>. That was pretty good...I'll have to go and see this!" I'm not saying I think it's a bad idea, just that it's not liable to happen. Also, I was talking more along the lines of an unknown in a starring role of the same caliber as Superman.____Bee
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:04 p.m. CST
Cut the xenophobia will ya. They should pick the best actor for the job regardless of his country of origin. Feckin yanks.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:04 p.m. CST
DAVID SCHWIMMER. nuff said. this guy CAN act, see band of brothers for proof. and that clumsy clark kentish charm he would need isnt that far off of his ross character on friends. please email me at TMDALY@ADELPHIA.NET IF YOU AGREE
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:08 p.m. CST
... To See what your take on it is going to be. They have to. There aren't any Spies here, it's pretty happy family. Plus I know that the roles haven't been cast yet, but di Boneventura, Horn, and others have taken meetings with people. Given recent reviews I have read of Harry's, I can't beleive anyone would freely offer HK that kind of information. Anyone read the scipt? I have.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:12 p.m. CST
just do it already: make an animated film version of the Dark Knight Returns. the voice actor for the Batman series is totally perfect. and, with real money behind the film, you could have an amazing animated feature. but no, i guess Hollywood would rather spend 10x the money for a movie that will be an utter disaster. retards.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:12 p.m. CST
If you've read the script please either tell us where we may peruse it at this time or fill us in on specifics so the rest of us can be as informed as you are
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:19 p.m. CST
by Spelunker Gregg
Is for WB to try and renegotiate Jude Law's contract and bring him back. He could pull Supes' off without a hitch. Now...as far as other comic book movies go...fuck 'em. What we all want is what only Don King can deliver: CHRISTOPHER REEVE vs. STEPHEN HAWKING!!! Who would win this match up? I'd put my money on Hawking. It's gotta' be the whole "omnipotent knowledge" thing he possesses. Anyone else agree? Yeah. I know. I'm an asshole who's gonna' get stoned for this post.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:20 p.m. CST
...since we all know Christopher Reeves can't play Superman, what about..saaaayyyy...oh I don't know...Jason Priestly???
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:24 p.m. CST
Read it in an office, down the hall, at lunch, and am not about to give away spoilers. I hated doing that to myself with Star Wars, so I am not about to be the one to give shit away here. What did I think when I read it? Please, Please, oh, Please, Don't Fuck it up. Sure, I know there are people who think I am full of shit, but, oh, well.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:29 p.m. CST
Action...not calling you a liar OR saying you're full of shit...don't know you well enough to do either quite frankly...what I guess I was asking for was a basic idea as to what the feel of the movie is first of all, and secondly do they play it seriously or is it a a lil more campy, do we see the meeting of the two for the first time or is their already an established history between the two, and thirdly (is that even technically a word) who do we have as supporting characters and villians? Thanks in advance. The God Complex has spoken.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:30 p.m. CST
I haven't seen anyone throw this one out there yet, but the guy's seem perfect to me: Superman/Clark Kent - Barry Pepper (Roger Maris in "61" and the assasin/sniper in "Saving Private Ryan"). He's got great acting chops and the physicality to pull off a role in a much more believable way than either Hartnett or Jude Law could. Batman - I'm not sure exactly what his name is but he was in Boiler Room and is a teacher on "Boston Public". Is it Nicky Katt or something liket that? Either way he's got the brooding part down pat and can pull of a physical role as well.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:32 p.m. CST
I think Wolverine was indeed the star of X-Men. From a character perspective, he's easily the central figure in that whole movie. And Hollywood certainly has the power to "make" a star; Colin Farrell is exhibit A. Matthew McConoughey is another example. Besides, do you really think that a significant number of people would refuse to see a Superman movie starring an unknown, but then change their minds when learning Josh Harnett is gonna be in it? Nah. And even if there were people who thought that way, those people would be offset by the people who felt opposite, that they have no desire at seeing a giggle-worthy movie where a mid-level star dresses up in blue tights, and I think Warner's knows that...but they WANT a star because they like the idea of a casting stunt, or because Wolfgang thinks his movie needs star power in those pivotal roles. Which, as history has proven, is bulltweet. And no fair asking me to talk about an unknown being cast in a role like Superman...there IS no role like Superman. He's probably the most iconic figure in North America.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:36 p.m. CST
Who cares about the possible invasion of Iraq when the role of Superman is up for grabs??? My office mate has to put up with my stifled giggles when I read these outraged geek TB's. I hope Warner announces that Josh Hartnett turned down the role and they've decided to go with Christian Slater instead.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:39 p.m. CST
I'm not going to say anymore. I'm not going to feel like a Bastard. Seen Austin Powers 3? It's like the mole thing. You want to say it, but you just can't.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:41 p.m. CST
That gives me a great idea...Slater is Superman...Charlie Sheen is Batman...Emilio Estevez is Lex Luthor...Keifer Sutherland is The Joker...Oliver Platt is Commissioner Gordon...I smell green WB!!! The God Complex has spoken.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:43 p.m. CST
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:45 p.m. CST
how about aaron eckhart as the man of steel? i can picture him as a great clark kent and superman.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:47 p.m. CST
Some perfect casting there ...
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:48 p.m. CST
These may have been covered. But for the Bat, Colin Ferrel would bean excellent choice, but how about Depp? And for Supe, it has to be Christian Bale or Brendan Fraser. Fuck Hartnett. I like Law, but I am one of those having trouble with the physicality. At least Leo isn't on the list.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:50 p.m. CST
Here's Harry: "Jude Law is Superman." Here's the studio: "No he's not." Here's Harry: "Okay, but we weren't wrong." So if you weren't wrong, then Law is Superman, right? Right? No? Then you were wrong, plain and simple. ***** I don't care if he had the pen in his fucking hand; with no ink on the paper, he was merely "in talks." To report otherwise is unequivocally wrong, no matter what weasel-words you may use to spin it after the fact. You will gain nothing by making excuses. You need to just come clean, show a little humility, and admit for once that you made a mistake. It will be better for your credibility in the long run.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:55 p.m. CST
...is still in my mind Bale as I stated above, and as did others, but I saw someone else say Brendan Fraser earlier and I liked it then too as I do now. He can play any character handed to him as he is one of the most diverse young actors around today...someone else mentioned was that CSI guy, Something Eades, good choice as well...neither Hartnet nor Law is Superman in my opinion...as for Batman, I still firmly stand behind David Boreanz, although I am sure Farrell will do great. The God Complex has spoken.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:55 p.m. CST
The respect I held for Jude Law, and I've always thought he was pretty decent actor, has just increase 3 fold. Way to go, dude. Finally, a man in Hollywood with a backbone and some integrity. God, imagine if Nicholson had a signed on for all the Batman films... He woulda' beat himself to death with Robin's codpiece by the start of the fourth film. Way the hell to go, Jude. Now, for this Hartnett character. I'm not all that familiar with him. I avoided Pearl Harbor the movie like the plague. 'Not familiar with his other work. Wasn't he in Black Hawk Down? Great flick, but not one performance stuck out above the rest in that cast of thousands. I don't remember him if he was in it. Hmmm. I hope he does the right thing by himself and think ahead as Law did if Warner tries to screw him.
Aug. 12, 2002, 3:56 p.m. CST
because I Have the animated superman/batman movie, and they got that one right. Except that it's only an hour long.
Aug. 12, 2002, 4:03 p.m. CST
I'd prefer Hartnett to Boreanz. He's not really an actor. He's a guy that someone saw walking down the street walking his dog and said, "Hey, you should be an actor." OK, I'll be an actor. I don't mean any disrepect, but I think he would agree that he has very specific emotional depth limits. Sure he's fine on his own show, and he pulls it off, but let's cast "actors" in those roles.
Aug. 12, 2002, 4:03 p.m. CST
in "Batman Beyond" -
Aug. 12, 2002, 4:12 p.m. CST
I sure hope the studio is reading this. Even if they don't look at my meager suggestion, hopefully they will realize that people are not going to accept Harnett as Supes' !
Aug. 12, 2002, 4:26 p.m. CST
by Miss Aura
People were saying that the rumour of Jude Law as superman was bullshit in the talkback when the news was announced and now they have been proven right. Another news item on here turns into complete fabricated bullshit. But then again what more can we expect from the man who loved Triple X and eight legged freaks. Two of the worst films I have ever seen.
Aug. 12, 2002, 4:26 p.m. CST
If the WB are going to cast someone like Josh Hartnett for this role, they should just scrap the project. They are going to ruin two of comics greatest heroes if they cast him as Superman.
Aug. 12, 2002, 4:44 p.m. CST
Let's not revisionize the whole Wolverine thing, kids. Hugh Jackman was not the first choice. I've met Hugh, he's a nice guy, and the experience has truly changed his life for the better, but he wasn't the first choice. Originally, they were going to go with Dougray Scott ("Ever After" and "Mission: Impossible 2") as Wolverine, and they would have if M:I2 hadn't shot longer than planned. M:I2 ran long, Scott was the main bad guy, and so he had to give up being Wolverine. I bet he still kind of kicks himself for that -- he won't be in any more M:I flix. Hugh Jackman was a second choice who saved the day at the last minute, coming in as the X-Film was shooting. The "name" actor (though not terribly well known, he had been seen by American audiences before) was the first choice. Bryan and Tom didn't have a huge budget for "X-Men" and had to get good talent that they could still afford, and any name recognition would have been a plus. Dougray Scott and Hugh Jackman are both fine actors, and I'm sure either would have been a fan-boy favorite in the part because anyone who can do Wolverine justice would be. Dougray was cast first, which means that he had the same mettle (no pun intended) as Hugh. For those who say that Wolverine was not a major character in the first movie, go back and watch it again; he was practically THE central character. He and Rogue were our introduction to the world of the X-Men, he's the one who saves Rogue, and he's the one we're pulling for to live after the final fight with Magneto and saving Rogue with his healing factor. Wolverine was a critical character in the first X-movie because he's one of the most popular characters in the Marvel universe. -- SPYder, out.
Aug. 12, 2002, 4:53 p.m. CST
by Fred Morrow
what the fuck is josh hartnett doing trying to play superman warner bros should give fans and chris reeve more respect instead of getting the latest hollywood shit kicker who will make a few bucks for the studio the void left by chris reeve is big enough without some little shit head making it worse warner should audition me, as josh hartnett is more wooden than pinnochio he would be better cast as a prop sort it out get an actor who can play the part instead of some pube who wants to use it as a springboard to more commercial roles..!!!?
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:06 p.m. CST
by Fred Morrow
if josh hartnett gets the part then somebody please rename the character CLARK CUNT
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:08 p.m. CST
JOSHUA JACKSON IS SUPERMAN but let the old men do it HARRISON FORD would be a great BATMAN to take on NICOLAS CAGE as SUPERMAN
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:14 p.m. CST
Colin Ferrell? Jude Law? Josh Hartnett? Nic Cage? Warner Bros. loves to fuck up these characters, and we can only sit there and cringe. They have to hire someone who everyone can look at and say, 'There's Superman' or 'There's Batman!'. Josh Hartnett? What bullshit. No offence to the guy, but he did say he never wanted to play a superhero. And all those girls masturbate to him, it's like if DiCaprio was cast as SUPERMAN. Euhhh! BTW, Those old Superman cartoons were great, what personality.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:21 p.m. CST
by jimi 23
The guy was in band of brother as sgt Webster.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:26 p.m. CST
Superman, drawn to Gotham City after reading about a costumed man putting some serious hurt on thugs (breaking arms, legs, everything short of killing those guys), watches Batman (dressed all in black) attack some gang members and finally, just as Batman's fist is about to crack a nose ... it hits a blue wall with an S embossed over a black triangle. Batman: Who are you? Superman: Someone who never crosses the line. Batman: Ah. So you're a fool. Wouldn't have guessed that, considering your sense of fashion. Superman: You do cross the line. You might have driven that bone right through to his brain. With these methods, you're not better than them. And you know it. What do you think you are? A hero? Batman: Someone who gets the job done. Someone who scares those assholes to hell, so little kids don't have to cry about their dead parents. Superman: Is that what happened to you? Is that why you do this? Batman: Listen, if I wanted a shrink, I'd watch The Sopranos. Now get out of my way. (Superman's feet rise a few feet above the ground) Batman: Your momma tought you that? So who are YOU? Superman: I was born on another planet. It died. I survived, got here, was raised by decent people and try to use my powers to do good. By not crossing the line. Batman: From another planet? Yeah, as you said, you're a fool. Now get... out.. of... my... way! Superman: I have special powers. I might peek under that mask and ruin your cover. Your rampage would be over. Batman: You peek under that mask, you set off a trigger. A bomb will detonate. Where? Wouldn't want to spoil the suprise. Superman: You're worse than them. Batman (haunted smile): Not yet. But I'm working on it. (disappering into the night)...
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:28 p.m. CST
... of a story is defined by the person who undergoes the most amount of change. From one polar opposite to the other. If you want to know whose story it is,any story, then ask yourself that question. It's not brain surgery.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:50 p.m. CST
And that's all I have to say about that.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:52 p.m. CST
All you talkback geeks make sure to read SPY-der's summation of the situation. It is exact and to the point. By the way, I agree with the talkbacker who said the teen Superman in SUPERMAN looked nothing like Chris Reeve, but the fact is he could have just as easily played Superman a few years later. He had that square-jawed, all-American look. Wonder whatever happened to him?I guess I will go check him out on IMDB. His name was Jeff East.
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:54 p.m. CST
Count me in for the Paul Gross campaign!!!! That idea is pure genius so props to whoever conceived of it. He is cheap, versatile and talented. Fuck name recognition on this one... Paul Gross would be the ultimate successor to Reeves. Gross would be the perfect Superman. Cast Gross and you will believe a man can fly!!!! Canada Rocks
Aug. 12, 2002, 5:58 p.m. CST
Hal Jordan. Book it. And Hartnett is A-OK by me.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:03 p.m. CST
by Aaron Weisbrod
Jude Law as Miracleman? Now THAT would be SWEEEEEEEET!!! Good call, man!
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:14 p.m. CST
I'm not crazy about Hartnett either. He's another overrated actor because he's a good looking guy. Alot of you people overlook Hollywood's rationale for casting Hartnett. He's young. Second, he'll bring in the girls. They're obviously trying to expand the demographic to females. Simple as that. Now if you were one of the 113 people who saw 40 Days 40 Nights you could probably understand Hollywood's appeal with young guys in sex romps. They don't apply to comic book films. For those you need someone WHO ACTUALLY LOOKS THE FUCKING PART. It's quite simple. Blame moviegoers for WB coming to this decision. They're the ones who see his shitty movies.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:25 p.m. CST
by mr. smith
i don't see the need to cast 20 year old "male models" as superman OR batman... or frankly a need to make this movie at all... but i have to chimein that jude law as miracleman is genius- now that's a movie i would see.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:26 p.m. CST
by Shanghai Goon
the other day, and during one of the films occasional homo-erotic moments, Damon's character comments on how Law looks like Superman, and when he puts his glasses on, how he then looks like Clark Kent. Although he was only vaguely correct, This was the first time since I've heard about this project, (possibly) starring Jude Law as Superman, that I could definitely see some potential, for a really interesting perspective of this all too familiar character. But I must say, Josh Hartnett ...is pushing it.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:33 p.m. CST
I think Jude was good and Hartnett will be fine. I have an Idea, why not cast two people that are on the same level of acting and have chem. together! Affleck & Damon- shit they work together all the fuckin time any way. What do you think? Just a thought. Affleck as Superman and Damon as Batman. They have the build and chops for each role that I mentioned
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:57 p.m. CST
by Darth Taun Taun
Ignore Harry when I become famous.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:58 p.m. CST
by Clara Bow
Kraken, in response to your query- Luke Wilson or Josh Hartnett as Superman. LUKE WILSON, LUKE WILSON, LUKE WILSON, LUKE WILSON. Josh Hartnett is SuperBOY, if anything.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:58 p.m. CST
Monkeyman -- no shit. Warburton was made to play the role. I was excited about Law though.
Aug. 12, 2002, 6:59 p.m. CST
Why do people have to hate on Harry? Jesus Christ. You'd thinjk he raped your fucking mothers the way some of you talk shit about him. So what if he drops names? He wasn't even dropping names in this one. The name is attached to the project, and he sat with Harry at his house. I didn't feel as though Harry brought it up for us to envy him. You people need to grow the hell up and lay off. Y'all are bitches.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:05 p.m. CST
by The Apostle
And I say unto you that this Josh Hartnett is a plague unto man. His 40 day and 40 nights would have been harder on Noah than the 40 days and 40 nights that he spent on a log boat surrounded by a bunch of stinking animals...Seriosly folks, has anyone out there been able to sit through an entire Josh Hartnett movie? (This excludes The Faculty because with this movie there was at least the possibility that he was going to die horribly at any minute...) I agree with you Harry, you don;t cast James Dean as Superman, but don't give Hartnett that much credit. I can think of a bunch of actors that would be better suited to play Superman....how about Christian Bale, he has that Christopher Reeves thing going on, you know. Ah well, I'm rambling. Point is, please Warner Bros, don't do this, don't ruin this movie by making it She's All That. You already made Freddy Prinze Jr. Fred in Scooby Doo, haven't you sinned enough? In closin, let me just say that Josh Hartnett will be this movies Kryptonite.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:07 p.m. CST
by Trevor Goodchild
Michael Caine should be Superman. Bob Hoskins should be Batman. Ray Winstone should be Lex Luthor. And Gary Oldman is the Joker. The Eastend of London is Gotham. The Westend is Metropolis. Now just sit back and watch those Flag waving, ignorant twats squirm and whine.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:10 p.m. CST
Can't you write one stupid article without saying - Josh was at my house. We drank some beers. You are not God's answer to movies. You are a fat ass Texan who came up with an idea before anybody else could and now, along with Carrot Top, you are the most painfully lucky person on the face of the Earth. Somebody with absolutely zero talent (you) with a penchant for showing off who kisses your ass so you don't smear their movie like a huevos rancheros corn filled shit you release every morning while eating twinkees. Sorry fat boy. No wonder nobody liked your stupid book. Why don't you give us news and not celebrity filled Friday nights in Harry's house.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:11 p.m. CST
Cause I'm sure there are people out there who can't act worth a damn looking toward this project. Josh has made some bad films, but he did a pretty good job in Black Hawk Down. I assume he was also good in O and the Virgin Suicides, however, haven't seen either. I imagine he can act if given a good script and director and costars. I completely agree with Jude Law's decision to hold veto powers over scripts. That could have been damn good for the franchise. I know that the franchise definately has the chance to get damn shitty in a hurry. I hope it doesn't, but theyve done it before. I STILL WANT A GREEN LANTERN FILM DAMMIT!
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:28 p.m. CST
All this talk of bad Superman casting reminds of another controversial choice from the last millenium. Anyone remember when Michael Keaton was nobodies choice to be Batman? Everyone thought it would fail. But Keaton surprised us all and made a fairly convincing performance as the Caped one. So while I agree some of the names up for contention are a little out there, just hold tight. It all depends on the script and the dedication of the people making it. Plus if it sucks worse than a black hole we still have the animated team up from a few years back to cheer us up. Some food for thought. Are you full yet?
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:37 p.m. CST
Although I'm really late to this debate, thought I'd put forth the obvious suggestion, Damon and Affleck as Superman and Batman. Damon as square Clark Kent is no stretch (just requires a dye job), and Affleck as Bruce Wayne is dead on. They'd probably have a blast as on-screen enemies, which would translate into a ton of fun for the audience.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:45 p.m. CST
At first I didn't care for the choice of Jude Law based purely on his stature and look. Then I realized that since Christopher Reeve was absolutely the epitome of how Superman looks, maybe the new film should have it's own iconography. Have the basic attributes of how Superman looks, but not be so overly concerned with bringing the comic to life. Jude Law is such a supremely gifted actor that it's very exciting to think of what he could have brought to the role. It is really unfortunate to have lost him. Especially over something so ridiculous. I am not vehemently opposed to Josh Hartnett. He has the right build at the very least, and an earnest quality that could be just right. My personal choice would have been Christian Bale. He has the height, the build, and the look. But more importantly he is an excellent actor. What I am absolutely positive about though, is the choice for Batman. Getting Colin Farrell is a brilliant move by Warner Brothers. How often can we say that? He will blow us out of the theater as Batman, I can just feel it. Will the people suggesting Patrick Warburton just please stop? He resembles an Alex Ross painting and that is it. Period. It would be ridiculous to cast him. And finally, something that I try to never do but I can't help myself this time: Deathstroke, about your proposed first scene. Please tell us that you are fifteen, and/or that you're gifted at satirizing bad screenplays.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:48 p.m. CST
Even with Law in it, and he's awesome, I have so little faith in this project. But now...Josh Hartnett?!?!! LOL This thing is dead.
Aug. 12, 2002, 7:57 p.m. CST
by Village Idiot
One of the constant refrains that one hears when the subject of casting for a superhero movie comes up is the Micheal Keaton argument, which usually goes something like this:
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:18 p.m. CST
Rumours are a terrible thing, they can completely ruin your day despite the fact that they may not even be true. Old woody himself, Josh Hartnett, is tipped to play Superman. When you think that the casting people can do no further wrong, let
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:18 p.m. CST
There goes our shot at a Blazing @$$holes movie. Keaton was a phenomenal Batman, delivering a performanced so subtley nuanced, that I can forgive you for not noticing it, what with your head so far up your rear end and all. Yeah, he didn't look like the traditional comic book Bruce Wayne, but c'mon, how important is it that Bruce Wayne is an extra two inches taller, or that he has the thick hair of a male model? (Don't blame him for not looking like the comic book Batman, cause nobody would look like the comic book Batman behind all that rubber). Working within the confines of the material and the director's preference for style over substance, Keaton delivered a performance that may not have been 100% traditional, but had more truth and soul than I've ever seen Batman/BruceWayne portrayed with, in any medium.
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:28 p.m. CST
I agree with an earlier poster who suggested that WB should scrap this project altogether (along with its horrible casting decisions) and simply adapt The Dark Knight Returns as they would any other successful 'novel'. I would enjoy seeing Alec Baldwin in the role of Superman, and Bruce Willis as an older Batman (although certainly not as old as is portrayed in the comic book). I just think the chemistry would be amazing to see, since Baldwin brings his impressive acting chops and Willis already comes with 'action-star' credentials. Oh... and wouldn't Demi Moore be an interesting casting choice for Selina Kyle.
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:33 p.m. CST
He's got the look. He can play a tough guy and a goofy Clark Kent.
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:56 p.m. CST
by Village Idiot
Yes, there was the fact that this "superhero" was somehow able to maintain the physical presence of MR. MOM even underneath all that sculpted latex, but that wasn't the only problem. "Keaton delivered a performance that may not have been 100% traditional, but had more truth and soul than I've ever seen Batman/BruceWayne portrayed with, in any medium." That's nice Jon, but did you happen to notice that the "truth and soul" he gave were inappropriate for the character (or at least inappropriately emphasized), and unsuccessful at creating the kind of resonance that has made the character so enduring in the first place? And even still, which "truth and soul" are we talking about: the vaguely confused Bruce Wayne, sans any kind of charm, or the hysterical Bruce Wayne in Vicky Vale's apartment, sans character consistency, or the gravel voiced Batman, who was *unintentionally* creepy (i.e., not a dark hero, but a weird guy in a costume)? In any case, Keaton's performance failed on one very important count: he failed to inspire. Can you honestly say that you left the movie Batman wanting to have any affinity for the character? How long has it been since you've seen BATMAN?
Aug. 12, 2002, 8:57 p.m. CST
Harry give Josh a chance!!!! At least hes an actor and not just someone who has muscle and mini-acting skills!!!!!
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:14 p.m. CST
I didn't think the Truth and Soul were inappropriate for the character, I thought they were wonderful. Keaton played Batman like the psychotic that he would be in real life; the two personas - Bruce and Bats - are completely distinct, in voice, manner, everything. Bruce: the vapid playboy exterior doing a poor job of hiding the frightened man-child desperately looking for sanctuary & Bats: the wrathful messenger of vengeance just barely hanging on to its notion of right and wrong. And then, at the end of the movie, when Bats confronts his parents' killer, the two personas merge. Watch as the voice and the movement become that of Bruce Wayne, as opposed to Batman. It's wonderful, but very, very subtle. *** The scene at Vale's apartment is a bad example, for both of us. I'll admit not the strongest in the movie, but didja know that it wasn't supposed to end like that? The script had a huge daylight action sequence where Joker kidnapped Vicki, and Bruce had to rescue her in a makeshift costume, but it was dropped (why I don't know. Probably money). In any event, the hysterics Bruce goes into were intentional - goading the Joker to shoot him, because he knew it was the only way out of that scene (for both him and the writers). The vanishing act at the end, however, I have no excuse for. *** I don't think Batman is a particularly well-written movie and it reeks of Tim Burton's "vision", but Keaton's performance does it for me, and it hurtles over the material. I think between Nicholson's showy performance, the over-the-top art design and the mediocre script & direction, Keaton's performance gets lost, and he gets a lot of the blame for the failings of that movie, when, in fact, that blame should fall elsewhere. But it is a wonderful performance, for me the definitive Batman, and it, and probably it ALONE, makes Batman (1989) one of the best comic book movies ever.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:26 p.m. CST
not exactly a retraction but hey, this isnt a news site right. oh wait
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:31 p.m. CST
I was AMPED about Law being Superman. There is nothing he's done I haven't liked. BUT As many others have I applaud his reason for backing out. I'm having trouble picturing Harnett. BUT... consider this... Reeve was a SKINNY FREAKBOY before Superman, he did some soap operas back in the seventy's and I've seen clips. He was a stringbean. He dediated himself to buffing up for the role, and going back over my Superman DVD it looked like they just pulled an ideal Superman right ut out of the comic pages and it was Reeve. Before Superman Reeve would have seemed as unlikely a Superman as anyone. I'll give Harnett a chance, perhaps he'll follow Reeves example. But I'm gonna sit here and root for Law's return before they start shooting. Barring that, I'm just gonna see what Harnett brings to the plate. I'm not very familiar with his work. Ahhh.... the wondering alone is gonna keep me fueled for this one. If he sucks or not, I'll be interesting to see what happens. Hey. Doesn't everybody slow down for car crashes hopeing they get to see some gore? This is much the same. :-)
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:37 p.m. CST
by Mr. Fusion
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:44 p.m. CST
Whenever I see this movie now, I have to giggle to myself, because bck in 89 I didn't realize how bad the acting was in that movie. Not Hideous mind you, but not nearly as cool as I thought it was. Even Nicholson, who's an awesome actor and the coolest fucking person in Hollywood, is too off base for me. But when Keaton goes "hysterical," or whatever a couple of talk backers want to call it, does anyone besides me laugh at the forced and unrooted "look-at-me-I'm-going-Psycho-so-watch-out" farce that he puts on? Just curious. AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE CASTING RUMORS HERE AREN'T TRUE, RIGHT?
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:56 p.m. CST
Seriously. if they're going to go the teen heart-throb route why not let him step up. I thinkt hat the success of his show lent some impetus to getting a movie franchise up and running again. Anyway, they both look too young and boyish to play a SuperMAN, but Welling is over a year older then Hartnett. Weird.
Aug. 12, 2002, 9:58 p.m. CST
by Kentucky Colonel
There's a movie I'd pay to see. Wait. That's the one I still owe $4.00 late return fee on.
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:04 p.m. CST
Tom Welling is obvisously a better goddamn choice over goddamn Josh goddman hartnett. If anyone would goddamn stop and goddamn think about it, it is the goddamn obvious goddamn choice (goddamn it).
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:21 p.m. CST
and his name is Bruce Campbell. He looks perfect he's a smaller profile actor, and dammit if he isn't a great actor!Give it to Bruce!Please God!
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:34 p.m. CST
by Mr. Fusion
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:43 p.m. CST
Why is it that no one is mentioning the name of Wes Bentley for this role?!? Harntett is the definitive in "acting fluff." Hell WB, if you're going to go that route, why not just get Chris Klein to play Superman and be done with it?!? Could we maybe even mention Christian "American Pyscho" Bale for the role?
Aug. 12, 2002, 10:51 p.m. CST
First, Superman. Josh Hartnett is fine and dandy in the teen demographic and all and Jude Law might be a great actor but both of them don't have what it takes. Who I think would be the perfect Superman is (I'm not sure if it was posted or not because I haven't read any of the other posts yet) is obviously Paul Gross. He's exactly what Peterson is looking for. A low profile thespian. He's a name that man, MANY people haven't heard of yet. He looks the part and can act the part. He's also at the suitable age for The Man of Steel. Do a google on him if you want more info on why he's perfect for the role. Next is Batman. Collin Farrel (SPL?) sure does have a shitload of talent, but he ain't Batman. I personally can't imagine him as a brooding hero that lurks in the dark. I can't imagine him as a man who has been haunted all his life by the murder of his parents by thugs. But I do see one man who might be able to pull it off. His name is Christian Bale. Once again he has what Peterson is looking for. A low profile thespian. Not only that, he was the skills and the gruff to pull it off. And on top of that, in Reign of Fire you saw that he also had the muscle to be the Bats. This guy can probably whoop Collin's ass pretty badly. And there ya have it. My personal dreamcast for S Vs. B. two lowprofile actors who also have the physiques to pull of the rolls. I'm sure nobody will pay attention to this post (seeing it's my first) but I beg you people to actually learn more about these two men before throwing this idea in the garbage. You might not know, one of them may replace a character in your vision of the movie.
Aug. 12, 2002, 11 p.m. CST
by Eleanor Rigby
I'm sorry, really I am, but what the hell?? I have an awful feeling that this will be some twisted "Celebrity Death Match", pro-wrestling, hitting-each-other-with-chairs shameful piece of mulch. I can imagine the sadistic bastard that thought of this grinning mercilessly while stroking a cat. What's next, pray tell? Batman v Superman v Spiderman?? God help us all.
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:20 p.m. CST
OK, so Jude Law is out- that's OK. He was an interesting choice, and I'm sure he could have done a good job. But his taking on such a prominent franchise would have interfered with him getting the lead for another franchise that he's even better suited for- James Bond. No way would Hollywood let the same actor be both, so this at least clears the way for the possibility that one day my wish may come true, and Jude Law will be taking his martinis shaken not stirred. As for hearing about this young turd, Josh Hartnett getting the part of Superman, I just felt a little heartsick. If he is Superman, then automatically this movie has no shot whatsoever of being anything more than mediocre.
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:21 p.m. CST
Manji in the CRY OF THE WORM movie! Anyone who knows what I'm talking about is cool!
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:33 p.m. CST
by Darth Phallus
Josh Hartnett and Jude Law are too short. Superman is a SUPER MAN!
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:46 p.m. CST
As both a life long comic fan I have stood by for the good, the first two Superman and Batman films, and the bad, the later Bats and Supe films, Steel. I mean the Bat Visa card??? Who the hell had that brain fart. Anyways, my particular position on the roles of these two collosal characters, if anyone gives a damn, is that the story would be much more dynamic with older heros, more wise, more true to their eventual status. Personally, for years I have thought who could pull off Superman. The clincher is the dual identity of supes and clark. Vin Diesel is clearly capable of pullin off Superman with the physique and powerful voice, but the mild Clark is another story. Maybe with a fake gut that supes attaches in superspeed. anyways, I have always felt Billy Zane would do a remarkable Clark with a slightly arrogant Kal El, which think about it , if you were near invincable you might be a little egotistical yourself. I, like others on here, am very unsure about Josh Harnett as Superman. Batman is a bit easier considering the mask do help seperate the duel identity. To Wolfgang all I can say is good luck and remember both of these characters are strong leaders of different breeds. They Must Be Powerful
Aug. 12, 2002, 11:52 p.m. CST
As it was pointed out to you Christopher Reeves did suffer a spinal cord injury years ago. But to get tales straight, the oxygen take may be from the paralysis, but also quads use wheelchairs that steer and accelerate by various blowing into a tube.
i don't see any problem with josh harnett playing superman, it wouldn't be much different from jude law
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:03 a.m. CST
Okay fanboys open ur mind. George Reeves--- Christopher Reeve--- Keanu Reeves????? destiny or a thc induced delusion. "Im the last member of an alien species....Whoah...." lol I was interested in someone elses idea of Russel Crowe, he definitely has the powerful vibe for the role.
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:09 a.m. CST
Warner execs would cast the guy from the eighties band 'Taco' as Superman if he had a resurgence in popularity. Keep digging through your 'Teen Scream' mags and best of luck! After the teenaged Spider-Man, Warner execs want in on some of that teen girly box office, and it doesn't suit SUPERMAN at all. I wonder how long it will be before we see a superhero film geared towards the male fans (it doesn't mean sacrificing outsiders)? Hartnett didn't want to do a superhero role, the Smallville people think superheroes are cheesy, and Spider-Man was distorted for girls. Fuck, it's too much to be a fan of these books, seeing power going into the wrong hands and these goddamn dreadful decisions made. Smallville dialogue "So...are you a man...or a superman ?" Clark: "uh...I'm still trying to figure that out." >Flashes Toothy Smile<
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:12 a.m. CST
Can Howe Long even POSSIBLY be a worse choice than Josh Hartnett for the role of Superman??? -- C'mon people! Howe Long would be the best interpretation of an Alex Ross illustrated Superman. And George Clooney could in fact portray Batman as an intense and brooding character if the story was designed that way. These guys could be great opposite each other. I believe it!
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:17 a.m. CST
by Eleanor Rigby
I think it will be a comedy anyway, whether intended or not...
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:18 a.m. CST
So I'm glad that he's locked in for the role. Not too sure about Hartnett as Superman, though.
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:45 a.m. CST
It's perfect casting, come on, you know it to be true...
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:52 a.m. CST
by TheGinger Twit
c'mon man, jude law would suck ass as superman!
Aug. 13, 2002, 1:31 a.m. CST
What can we do to stop this? Dear God. I don't care if Josh Hartnett was Lawrence Olivier, he doesn't look ANYTHING like Superman. And I mean ANYTHING. This is such a mistake. Jude Law would have been perfect. Damn you, Warner Brothers. First you rape Batman and now this. I hope you go bankrupt on this turkey. I repeat: WHAT CAN WE DO TO STOP THIS!?
Aug. 13, 2002, 2:07 a.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
Did any one of you see "O"? He was amazing, AMAZING, as Hugo. You guys have probably only seen him in "Pearl Harbor," which even had Kate Beckinsale and Tom Sizemore suck. How about "Virgin Suicides"? Remember his heartfelt portrayal in that? Man, whenever an actor liked by teens is brought up, you guys jump all the fuck over it. That said, he is not a good choice for Superman, but I can accept him, because a good actor can be convincing through his acting, not merely based on vanity shots. I was stoked for Jude Law (who is great, no matter what some of you guys say), but I guess I'll have to settle. And what the fuck is wrong with Colin Farrell? So he's a pretty boy, so what?! He can ACT! Look at that work. ACT! See "Tigerland." See "Hart's War." See "Minority Report." See the upcoming "Phone Booth" which will have to survive on his acting alone. Then tell me he's not damn good. And don't even bring up "American Outlaws." How the fuck else could he have broken into the mainstream? Sheesh.
Aug. 13, 2002, 2:08 a.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
And no, Tobey is not a heartthrob actor.
Aug. 13, 2002, 2:10 a.m. CST
Okay. He can pass as a younger Clark Kent/Superman and I did enjoy seeing him on "Due South". He's a much better choice than Josh Hartnett.
Aug. 13, 2002, 2:58 a.m. CST
Aug. 13, 2002, 3:03 a.m. CST
When I heard Brendan Fraser as Supes I thought excellent Fraser is big and would do a great job, when I heard Jude Law as Supes I though yeah great he prob isnt as big as Supes should be but he will do a top job, when I read this story I thought damn you WB how the hell are you gonna deny Jude Law and all he can bring to the role over some BS sequels contract clause, I am asuming when Batman v Supes is over there is a winner hence the fight is over and we dont have any sequels. WB why, why are you denying us Jude and giving us Josh Bruckheimer Hartnett, he is terrible and totally wrong for Supes. I hope this story is rubbish and Jude is still on the cards, WB should be kissing Judes ballsack trying to get him to come back and sign on as Supes.
Aug. 13, 2002, 3:09 a.m. CST
This bloody rules after a night out: something big that everyone can jump on + bitch about. So here's my 2 cents, just for the record: Jude Law is 1 of the most amazing actors of today. It isn't a matter of whether or not he IS Superman, 'cause with his talent, he can BECOME whoever he wants to be. I'm sorry to hear he's off this project, + only hope they can find someone suitable to replace him. + no, JH is not the man for the job. Patrick Warburton... not bad, but a bit big for the awkwardness that Clark Kent needs to exude. David Schwimmer? No, no, no! Frankly, Dean Cain from the 'Lois + Clark' series did a good job. Resurrect him for cryin' out loud! Out.
Aug. 13, 2002, 3:11 a.m. CST
Not Superman. 'Nuff said
Aug. 13, 2002, 3:32 a.m. CST
Has anyone brought up the point that this project could be right up there with Godzilla vs. the Thing (yes, an actual movie). I mean I havent read the script, and I generally trust Andrew kevin walkers scripts, hell, he's one of my fav recent writers(dont flame me), but i mean, superman vs batman? come on. How can this NOT be cheesy. Jude Law was made for movies. Im confident he will continue to make good career choices. As far as im concerned, this film should have never been even considered as a good idea. But as it will be total cheese, with a premise straight out of 60's B. Grade monster films, why not get the King of B. Grade Bruce Campbell himself, to play Superman. Im a giant bruce fan :) and I thought he'd make a great (if not somewhat cheesy) batman, but thinking about it, i wanna see 'SuperAsh' :) Hehe.
Aug. 13, 2002, 5:19 a.m. CST
Aug. 13, 2002, 5:32 a.m. CST
by Eugene O
Why? Batman's superpower is beating people up. Speakman can do that. Crispin Glover, meanwhile, is such a weird-ass dude that I'll just BET that he has his own cape. Thusly, I have already trimmed the budget on what will undoubtedly be the most expensive movie in history.
Aug. 13, 2002, 5:48 a.m. CST
Aug. 13, 2002, 7:44 a.m. CST
Otherwise I think Brendan Fraser could be good...but I'd like to see these guys played a bit older. Aaron Eckhart or Keifer Sutherland as Batman and maybe Joaquin Pheonix or Vince Vaughn as Superman. If they really want a youth in the good looking, good actor mould what about Orlando Bloom? His hair is dark.
Aug. 13, 2002, 7:53 a.m. CST
just jokin... bruce rules though
Aug. 13, 2002, 8:02 a.m. CST
The best Goddamn Vietnam superhero movie ever. Only Warner Brothers could make this happen. Any chance of incorporating Bugs, Daffy, Porky Pig et al while we're at it?
Aug. 13, 2002, 10:05 a.m. CST
by Nazzim O'Bazzim
Someone get those WBers a copy of the Canadian movie "Men With Brooms"
Aug. 13, 2002, 11:54 a.m. CST
TONY SOPRANO!!!!!!!!!!!! THINK ABOUT IT. "I'M OUTTA HERE! UP, UP AND A FUCKIN' WAY!"
Aug. 13, 2002, 12:07 p.m. CST
This is another example of gross miscasting. It's as funny as when I heard blond haired, blue eyed Leo Dicaprio was going to play Howard Hughes. Are studio execs trying to piss people off? Or are they that dumb? Anyway, I like Jude Law tremendously, but don't see him as Superman. I also like like Josh Hartnett, in the right role, but it ain't Superman that's for sure. What about Heath Ledger? He has the body and testosterone for it. I think Colin Farrell is a good choice for Batman and Heath and Colin would play off each other well. Jude Law (or Orlando Bloom) would be a better James Bond, more of a sexy, suave seducer-type.
Aug. 13, 2002, 1:22 p.m. CST
by Blue Devil
It states that the director is focusing on "Troy". A project based off Homer's "The Iliad"!
Aug. 13, 2002, 2:11 p.m. CST
Jude Law has been round to my house this afternoon in absolute tears about all this. He brought Sadie Frost round with him and as we sat in our deckchairs on my backyard lawn and perused old copies of the Beano featuring his favourite, Little Plum the Red Indian, talk quietly turned to the Superman project. Jude could bearly stand the dictatorship of it all and I was right behind him all the way, not since Matt Damon (who'd been round to my house for breakfast that very morning) had beat him round the head with his own paddle in 'The Talented Mr Ripley' had he felt so very betrayed. Still, at least he had me to console him and drop his name at every possible convenience in order to make myself seem ever-so-slightly cool. I told him he was all wrong for Supe's cape, too British and not xenophobically white enough to carry off the now completely ruined role. I'd said the same thing to my close personal friend Colin Farrell last week, after Joel Schumacher had finished with Batman even Adam West wouldn't touch the role with a rusty Batarang for fear of seeming too camp. Colin wouldn't hear of it and said he'd found Schumacher to be 'all man' on the set of Tigerland... but that's my friend Colin for you, the big sentimental Irish git that he is. So eventually Jude Law left and thanked me for my advice, I directed him towards John Woo who was just pulling up my driveway and said he should try out for John's upcoming Iron Man movie. 'Yoo-Hoo, Mr Woo' he yelped as he trotted off. Sadie Frost gave me an overfriendly peck on the cheek as she left, after I'd warned her about this kind of thing before! Naughty, naughty! Bye for now!
Aug. 13, 2002, 2:19 p.m. CST
Jude Law is a 5 ft 8" balding 30 year old. Not very super, if you ask me! And Colin Farrell is also a 5 ft 8" chain smoking pretty boy Dubliner who used to be in Ballykissangel (Irish TV soap)... more Robin than Batman.
Aug. 13, 2002, 2:22 p.m. CST
And the fact that he's British has nothing to do with it. We're talking about a fine actor here... but one who's 5'11", and is best known for his portrayals of somewhat foppish guys and robots and so forth. He was no more right for the role than was Nicholas Cage. In fact, I can more easily see him in the somewhat freakish role of Batman than I can see him as Supes. Josh Hartnett may not be right for the role, either, but at least he's 6'3". A big, athletic, midwestern sort of guy. Even Harry mentioned that aspect. Birth on Krypton or not, that's what Superman is. Get a big guy, with physical presence, not a prim and prissy underwear model looking cat. Colin Farrell will probably be a decent enough Batman, but with McG at the helm, this movie isn't looking too good. Great, for people who like loud-ass SFX fests with no brains, bad for people who want to see quality movies. But then, this was never about quality, was it? Ka-ching! Soulless Generic American Movie Franchise #133A, comin' up!
Aug. 13, 2002, 3:31 p.m. CST
...Feel that the info listed is true? It baffles me. No one is on board, you only think that because HK wrote it. That's just dumb. And HELLO, Mc. G. was tapped to do SUPERMAN, not SUPERMAN vs. BATMAN. Come on people, keep your facts straight if you are going to post. Now that we're clear on the fact that Wolfgang is doing S Vs B, know that he's not going to put it on the backburner for Troy. This will be his biggest payday yet, and WB has a schedule they want to keep strict to. AND is it me, or is it the same guy using different handles to promote the whole Paul Gross idea?
Aug. 13, 2002, 3:48 p.m. CST
you probably get some indie directors and people like kevin smith reading the stuff thats written on here, but the big studios in charge of casting are not going to listento people who say that a guy who appeared in a tedious 'fish out of water' buddy tv series about a mountie and a dog. they are going to go with who will draw in the crowds, if this movie was being pitched 5 years ago, i garuntee that Leo dicaprio whould be up for a role. despite that though, the studios would never go with something that looks stupid, i mean, what did you think when you heard that the kid from 'wonder boys' was going to be playing Spiderman, i was slightly confused and maybe a bit angry, but tobey maguire did a good job. they could get hartnett to beef up a bit, look how will smith did, look at tobey maguire for spiderman, and have you seen the state of Matthew McConnaghey for reign of fire? the guy looks like a brick shithouse! it doesnt make a difference what you say, the mountie dude will not play supes, he wont bring the crowds in, only you pathetic fanboys. and as i said in another post, superman hardly requires an awsome actor. woah, ive just thought, how about Viggo Mortensen for batman?
Aug. 13, 2002, 4:01 p.m. CST
i sincerely hope that chirpy chap was trying to look like a total fool. it would be a good comeback role for a wheelchair bound white haired paraplegic. look...up in the sky...its a bird...its a plane...its a guy in a wheelchair...THANK GOD WE ARE ALL SAVED!! fuckin idiot. anyway...i think that this could possibly be warners comeback movie but hartnett is just wrong-o. simple as that.I like the Patrick Warburton idea...hes fuckin awesome! I honestly believe that they should go with a no name though. Jude Law could be a small yet still rather imposing do-gooder but maybe they shoulda cast someone like Dave Sheridan. For those of you who don't know hes the guy that played "Doofy" in Scary Movie. I've seen him in other roles also. He really gets into his characters. Hes not a bad actor either. like brendan fraser <<sp?>> he just chooses goofy roles cause they are fun. Anyway...he's got that whole Superman-ish look to him. He looks wholesome and boyscoutish but has an underlying attutude. Plus hes built like a real person playing a superhero is expected to look. Check him out up close sometime. You will see. as always testicleez out
Aug. 13, 2002, 4:08 p.m. CST
How come know one mentions that he's playing Bullseye? Playing more than one comic book character in a movie? Farrell has nothing to do with Batman and looks nothing like Bruce Wayne. What the fuck is wrong with some of you people anyway?
Aug. 13, 2002, 4:31 p.m. CST
Batman v Superman flick who should be who? I cant think outright about Superman but, being a vivid Batman fan I suggest a good choice would be Viggo Mortensen of L.O.T.R fame just a suggestion what do you think?
I absolutly love Josh Hartnett. I am like obssessed. But i dont think he would fit the part as Superman. He just doesnt seem like that type of actor. If he did play the role i would be so happy just cause it is another Josh Hartnett movie but i dont really think that he would fit the part as Superman.
Aug. 13, 2002, 7:40 p.m. CST
I said Paul Gross would make a great Superman five years ago, and I still think he would. In addition to his Superman-like role on Due South, he played Hamlet at the Stratford Festival in Ontario. What's more, the last two dozen or so episodes of Due South are like one long audition tape for Superman. In various scenes, Gross flies, exhibits above-average hearing, and is indirectly and directly referred to as Superman. Even if Gross is 43, he still looks young and good makeup will take years off his face. Or why not set the movie a little later in Superman's career?
Aug. 13, 2002, 9:03 p.m. CST
>>Farrell has nothing to do with Batman and looks nothing like Bruce Wayne. That's your opinion and will remain your opinion. You don't speak for me or for other people. >>What the fuck is wrong with some of you people anyway? You should ask yourself that question. What makes you think that your opinion is golden while everyone else's don't matter?
Aug. 13, 2002, 9:18 p.m. CST
Peterson said he was a fan since childhood of Superman and Batman. Doesn't show. Warner Brothers own the characters. Doesn't show. DC comics publishes ten tons of crappy supes and bat comics every month claiming they love the characters. Doesn't show. Time and time again we are shown that Warner/DC is not the company to handle these characters. Everyone who gets their hands on them wants them to be "your dads" favorite characters. PL makes sure that the ediots (new word for DC editors) in charge of the books are micro managed into keeping continuity in line with 60 years plus of history. To my eyes i just see everyone buzzing around the old $ honey-pot. After a producers credit. I was told by a friend of Josh's that he agreed to do the film without seeing a script and that one didn't exist yet. He told me this last week and based on what he's told me in the past I have every reason to believe him. Why not just put Joel Shoesniffer back on it - kill the property off completely so that Warner sells off the rights to the characters to someone else who then makes a good movie. Maybe the way AOL's stock price is going they might want to consider selling off DC anyway. That way they can fire all the staff and get some talent to handle the books. Ssshheesh. Just needed to get that off my chest. Bye.
Aug. 13, 2002, 9:21 p.m. CST
Okay, I can see that. I just about had a heart attack when I saw he was up for SUPERMAN! Sure, he's a good actor, but not good enough to play a role he isn't even close to! Hartnet's not much better. As in NOT EVEN CLOSE EITHER! He could play Gambit in X-Men 5 (he better not show up earlier than that sequel) or Jack in a Starman movie, or even Kyle Rayner in a Green Lantern flick (assuming they are dumb and don't use the Hal Jordan character.) Colin Farell wouldn't be my first choice for Batman, but I could live with him. He doesn't NOT look the part, and he can act well enough. But Superman, who has a very distinctive physical presence (especially since he has no mask) must be tall, broadshouldered, and give off a bit of an innocent/very good natured feel. The guy from Smallville is perfect for a young Superman (which is apparently what they're going for) so why not use him? I still think waiting to launch a Superman movie starring him until the very end of the Smallville series would be the best thing. Or if you want older Patrick Warburton would be good. Even Billy Zane (better for Batman or Punisher), Adam Baldwin, or the ever-popular Bruce Campbell (who IS Plastic Man) would be better than either Josh Hartnet or Jude Law. This Superman v. Batman movie sounds like it's going to worse than the Superman with polarbear guards and it's shooting for the young teenybopper girl audience that knows nothing about the history of the characters and doesn't care. After this and Batman and Robin, and the more recent successes of Marvel films, it seems that the company that constantly screws up it's superhero movies has flip-flopped.
Aug. 13, 2002, 11:37 p.m. CST
by Insane Tiki
That stupid freakin' show had to put this image in everyone's head of Clark Kent being this cutey boy with a baby face... damn stupid show. Yeah, I've watched it. It's a disgrace to the Superman mythos. Giving an American icon the "Buffy treatment" is the dumbest idea ever. And now we have the kid from Halloween H20 as Superman on the big screen to prove it. The Batman casting is dead-on. And I would have been interested to see what Jude Law did with Supes, but I guess we'll never know now.
Aug. 14, 2002, 12:02 a.m. CST
Based on the play the Illiad. So Supes V Bats is on the backburner again and thank god. When they can cast real men as the two characters then they can make this flick. Read this over at Comics2film.com.
Aug. 14, 2002, 1:24 a.m. CST
Haven't read the other talkbacks, but most are probably saying something like this.....I am not ANTI Hartnett as an actor or as a person; I think he's done some quality work, even though most of his movies haven't exactly been my cup of Tuaca. However, the casting of this young man as Supes has me totally disinterested in the film. Just the other day I told a friend of mine who loves movies but couldn't care less about the behind-the-scenes info and gossip about Jude Law playing Superman, and we both agreed it was one of the coolest ideas ever. We also felt that a Christian Bale Batman would've totally rocked. Anyways, I have to tell him tomorrow that Batman v. Superman, or whatever, is no longer worth discussing. How do you go from interesting casting to bad casting so quickly?
Aug. 14, 2002, 2:34 a.m. CST
Guys, in a few weeks, everyone will be talking about the new kick-ass show that is Haunted (on UPN). Matthew Fox is 6'2, resembles Supes, would be a great paring for Colin and is a damn good actor. Wait and see - I think you'll agree. What do you think?
Aug. 14, 2002, 2:52 a.m. CST
Muscles. No way that in the present condition that they are in, can they be the heroes among heroes that they must be, legends among the earth, etc. They need to seriously work out. Not asking for WWF muscles, just some more.
Aug. 14, 2002, 3:16 a.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
The thinning hair, the bad teeth, and, in the end, glass shards, were all for the movie.
Aug. 14, 2002, 3:20 a.m. CST
I agree with villiage idiot. Keaton fuckin SUCKED! The dude that does the voice for Batman in the animated tv show is a WAY better batman; give the guy a damn emmy! I forgot who mentioned this but Mask of The Fantasm is a badass movie. And exactly how many people here have actually READ a damn bats/supes comic within the last five years? 'nuff said
Aug. 14, 2002, 4:46 a.m. CST
by Eleanor Rigby
I whole-fartedly agree with you. Viggo would make an excellent Batman - all broody and dark and whatnot. He'd flatten Superman any day of the week!
Aug. 14, 2002, 8:43 a.m. CST
Christian Bale would pull off a perfect Batman hands down, and give the Rock blue contacts and a hair piece and you've got the best Superman ever. Or scrap the whole Batman vs. Superman thing and make JLA the movie with the main villians being Lex Luthor and Darkseid.
Aug. 14, 2002, 9:32 a.m. CST
George Eads from CSI!!!! You can't tell me that this picture doesn't say it all.... http://www.users.bigpond.com/obi_wan_2099/suprdean.jpg and no, its not Dean Cain, but an edited publicity shot.... GEORGE EADS! YEAAAHHH!
Aug. 15, 2002, 12:36 a.m. CST
First I heard the next WB hero flick was going to be based on Frank Miller's bitchin' 3pt. story Batman:Year One. One of the best Batman stories written (David Boreanez from Angel would kick ass as a young 20 something Bruce/Batman in this...he's got brooding down to a science), I was extremely excited to hear this news. On top of that I heard about a live action Batman Beyond Movie. Are they still doing a Batman: Year One inspired movie? They should Damnit. The director attached to it was the guy who did Reqium for a Dream...It would have been bitchin'...and it would have salvage Bats from the Hell that that Bastard Schumacher sent him too. I know people are eager to rip on Cloney for the movie's failure, but lay off. He was The only one I saw who was able to pull of both Bruce and Batman as one in the same, he was, like most actors, a victim of horrendous (and blatantly homo-sexual) writing(rubber nipples? those must've been some frickin' cold nipps to bulge out of thick rubber!). Yeah, Keaton kicked some ass, but it just didn't feel completely right. Don't even get me started on Val Kilmer damnit. He was a decent Bruce...but god almighty did he suck as the Bat. Year One would have been a great premise. It would give "new comers" to the bat-franchise/mytghos a good jumping on point. But this Batman vs. Superman crap...what the fuck. I don't know who this Colin Farrel is off the top of my head, but I'll take everyone's word that he's great for the part...but Harnett as Kal-el...must be some killer bud those hollywood cocks are rockin' to come up with an idea that re-fuckin'tarded. To tell the truth, I can't really see Law as supes, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. In all honesty, I wouldn't mind seeing Tom Welling of Smallville make the Jump to the big screen in the tights. Slick his hair back and have him bulk up a bit more and I think that might add a little age to him to separate him from his Smallville representation of Clark. Marvel Learned from WB/TimeWarner/DC when it comes to movies...They definitly put Quality over Quanity($). Take the casting of at the time know-body Hugh Jackman as Wolvie. 35yr. old virgins the world over pissed and moned about a nobody being cast as the iconic X-man, But Marvel stood by it for Qualities sake...same with Tobey as Spiderman. I thought Wes Bently was a logical choice, but Tobey definitly pulled off the Pete/Spider dual Identity to a tee. I guess my point here to WB/DC is don't worry about casting acording to who's the hottest thing in Tiger Beat...go with who would be better in the damn role. Hartnett...big No! This is The WB and DC's shot at Hero movie redemption. They've already done it on The small screen (Smallville and the upcoming, and promising, Birds of Prey) and it's high time thy do the same for the big screen!
Aug. 15, 2002, 12:28 p.m. CST
by elegant mess
I love Jude Law, but thought he was a bit too elegant for the role. Even so I know he could have pulled it off with charm to spare. My first thought when I heard about this film was, god no. My second thought was that Brendan Fraser should be Superman. He's got the goofy nice guy thing down pat and he's got the phsyique. I can clearly see him squaring off with a Colin or Christian Batman. It's all moot at this point though. I'll probably wait until it becomes a Sat afternoon matinee on tv. BTW, if this movie does pan out, it'd be nice to see Christopher Reeve in some sort of cameo. Maybe one of those crystal lesson holograms at the Fortress of Solitude, so it wouldn't have to be so physical. Chris is truly the one and only Superman.
Aug. 15, 2002, 10:22 p.m. CST
im reading these comments and i saw a couple of people talking about batman: mask of the phantasm. Lemme tell you a little somethin about Batman: Mask of the Phantasm... Its kicks ass. It was better than Batman Returns and Batman and Robin. They need to just get colin ferrill and make a live action version of that movie, and it would more than make up for the sacrilage that is Josh Hartnett: Superman.
Aug. 27, 2002, 3:13 p.m. CST
As an actress in this business called HOLLYWOOD, I know how hard it is to break away from the celebrity stigma. I was outraged when someone said Josh Hartnett always plays the same character and therefore he lacked talent. Hartnett is Talented and if you dont see that you are blind! I mean he hasnt had the chance to play versatile roles like Law but then again Law is about 10 years older then Hartnett and has had more experience in the business. In my opinion Law plays a lot of the same characters...always a crazy low life (with the exception of the talented mr. ripley.) I love both of them to death but I actually do think Josh is the better candidate for Superman. He is 6'3 and he has perfect eys (who cares if their squinty...deal with it) I would just like to say that Benicio Del Toro is truly the most talented actors hollywood offers and he has said he sees a lot of talent in Mr. Hartnett...so in yo face!
Aug. 28, 2002, 6:22 a.m. CST
Okay maybe Josh isn't at Jude Law's standard - yet. Josh can definatley act and if hes not at Jude Law's level, well he's pretty god damn close. Personally I think that Josh would make a better superman than Jude would. But I agree with the fact that he should be carefull with signing up for more than one. Regardless of all of that I'd like to see Josh given the respect he deserves, I'd like to see you all get up and a better performance than he can.
Aug. 30, 2002, 5:36 p.m. CST
They let the amazingly talented Jude Law go over some type of sequel dispute?!? And as a replacement, they got Josh Hartnett? This movie's going to suck unless they get Jude Law back. I mean, Josh Hartnett was OK in other movies (ie. Black Hawk Down) but he's not Superman ... I don't think he can pull it off. Jude Law has the looks and talent for the role of Clark Kent/Superman. Let this nightmare end already.