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Published at:  Aug 03, 2002 4:38:04 AM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here... I'm sure we'll be hearing more from Comic Con - especially with some Marvel Film Panels and Presentations Tomorrow - Quint has interviews lined up with key personel and he has studied the Harriarty Mind Control Technique that I and Moriarty pioneered several years ago at OGs in Las Vegas. Necessity is the mother of invention they say... I always heard it was Frank Zappa...





Hi Harry,

I don't have a lot of news, but I thought you'd enjoy this little
tidbit...I work at a pretty large advertising agency in Chicago. A
friend of mine met with a Marvel rep and was handed Marvels standard
portfolio...a few comics, a hand out that shows what's coming out and
when for their movies....


They show the Punisher movie coming out in
August 2003. Also, a television cartoon Hulk show for sometime in 2003.



The rest of the films that they have planned for release are as
follows...2003: Daredevil, X-Men 2, Hulk and The Punisher....2004 and
beyond: Spider-Man 2, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, The Invincible Iron
Man, and Sgt. Fury (Not Col. Fury..I expect this to be a war era Sgt.
Fury).


Also on the Movie front....


They are also re-releasing the first
X-Men movie this fall entitled: X-Men 1-1/2.


X-Men 2 will be released
May 2nd 2003.


The Daredevil Movie will open February 14th 2003.


Ian the Intern



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  • Aug 03, 2002 4:54:29 AM CDT

    Re-release?

    by qualopec

    Why would the re-release be 1.5? Isn't it still the same movie?

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  • Aug 03, 2002 4:54:49 AM CDT

    X-Men 1.5????

    by god_o_thunder

    Is this a theatrical release or the suppesed "Super Deluxe Collector's Edition" DVD we've all heard the rumors about? Either way they better be some great bonuses to get me shell out my cash again. (FIRST!)

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  • Aug 03, 2002 4:55:15 AM CDT

    X-men 1-1/2 or how to rip off the public once again

    by monkeybrains

  • "Nitro killed Capatin Marvel? Monday Night Nitro? With me, brother?"

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  • Aug 03, 2002 6:44:06 AM CDT

    I Expect...

    by southside_2010

    Marvel Comic film adaptaions to burn the motherfuckin' movie industry down. Not only the way it presents comic book movies, but the way they make movies from now until the next batch of good shit comes along. X-Men 1 1/2 is a GREAT idea and coming out with the REAL part 2 around 2003 would blow those fuckin Matrix and LOTR Queers to the back of the fuckin' soundstage. Punisher movie...Bring It On, the Dolph Lundgren Punisher sucked asscock in the most punishing way imaginable. About as generic as a carton of GPC Menthol Light Cigarettes. The Daredevil and THE Incredible Hulk films that are supposed to come out in 2003 Better light the roof on fire for these Other blockbusters come on in and burn the fucker down. As for the rest of the other Marvel comics movie properties that are supposed to come out in 2004, You'll hear my responses to them some time next year...BTW Del Toro's HellBoy is going to line up Warner Bros.' Superman Vs. Batman movie up like a damn Circus Seal. Sheesh, Colin Farrel as Batman...sheeeiiitttt! Should've chosen Christian Bale.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 7:18:52 AM CDT

    Guys, there'll be new footage in 1.5...

    by kong33

    They will not release this without new footage, a commentary and likely a few previews/ posters/hints/set documentary of X-MEN 2 (imagine releasing a hot new trailer for it on the DVD!). I mean, can you imagine BEAST talking to Xavier with an old-fashioned telephone, or an outside shot of the Mansion used in X2 included in X1.5 to tie them together? How about Storm's origin or Cyclops'? Or a cameo by Angel or something, maybe they'll fix CGI... I'm looking forward to more information. "In words of one syllable" : this is cool news.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 7:19:48 AM CDT

    There is no 130 Minute Version

    by kong33

    This was denied ages ago.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 8:20:51 AM CDT

    The big con

    by nonkel bob

    Nope not Comic-con, but the new rip-off, I mean marketing strategy. Take a movie about to be released and excise about a quarter of the action and put that on ice. Wait a year or two and put the action back in an call it a re-release. Next up release a first DVD with just enough extra features to have appeal but keep enough to do a second version a year or two later. And then you can always go back to the movie and add some "new and improved" special effects and try a third or fourth re-release (but only try that if you have managed to cut down the movie to 78 minutes and have enough spare bits and pieces to pad it out to just under two hours.

    Happy moviegoers are we willing to pay three or four times to see a "beta" version of a movie before we are finally allowed to see the finished product ? Will we have to buy the same movie three times over on DVD only to get a paltry bonus each time ?

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  • Moriarty put out some blurb that Ottman was rescoring X-Men, which I know will please people who didn't like Kamen's score so I wonder if that's what this 1.5 thing is all about. If they make other changes, I hope they smooth out the rushed exposition in the second act rather than insert more characters. It felt as if Singer was embarassed by all the back story he had to unload in that info dump of a sequence where Xavier explains the school and Magneto like he's Basil Exposition. It should have come to light more gradually, but with only 85 minutes they didn't have the time the story needed. It was as if he didn't think audiences were patient enough for an actual story(and sadly, he could be right). I guess he got the job done, rushed or not, and maybe that's all that mattered. I wish Hollywood put more stock in the writing. I know its a medium where the wit comes from the director, but not all directors can write for shit, and like it or not writing is still the bare bones of the thing. "Do you know what 'appens to a Toad when it is struck by lightening? De same ting dat 'appens to everyting else." Come on Joss, you knew that line stunk, even if it HAD been read the way you had in mind.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 11:05:28 AM CDT

    Jaysus; Where Will It End?

    by van damned

    I understand why Peter Jackson is coming out with an extended special edition: there were many scenes that, while nice, made the film too long by far for the marketing wonks at New Line Cinema. But fortunately, that will be rectified with the release of the disc set.

    But X-Men was not too long. Nor could the added footage have hurt the film. No, they did this on purpose. like some othe posters said. They know we'll shell out again and again until we bleed, all for the privilage of saying we own the definitive version of the film. Accckkkk.

    That having been said, I must mention that while having lunch with some folks in downtown Manahttan, the matter of 'The Hulk' film came up.

    I won't say who or how, but Marvel is hyping this thing through the roof, even in it's own offices. One of the guys said he had heard how cool the movie would be, and we mentioned the whole thing about the Hulk Dogs and some other plot snafus, and he said he didn't know about those, they sounded lame and that it's not mentioned in company memos. Just the good stuff.

    Seems like all flash and no filler is rapidly becoming the Marvel House of Style again.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 11:15:47 AM CDT

    forgive my ignorance

    by astaldo

    Is sargeant Fury the same guy as Nick Fury?

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  • Aug 03, 2002 11:28:14 AM CDT

    X-Men 1 1/2 ?????????

    by mac styran

    Like, The Naked Gun 2 1/2 ??????

    Lelsie Nielson as Magneto?

    (Cheap Visual Jokes Galore....)

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  • Aug 03, 2002 11:57:38 AM CDT

    THE PUNISHER flick...

    by aaron weisbrod

    I believe that the upcoming PUNISHER flick is indeed going to be based on Garth Ennis' first mini/maxi-series. Also, I believe Artisan is set up to be releasing the film... What I really want to know is, will it include The Russian? ;)

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:06:58 PM CDT

    Wait a min.....NIck Fury has a movie!

    by lordweymont

    Anyone see the Nick Fury movie starring David Hasselhoff? BAHAHA. What a classic! Doesn't Harry look like that dude on "Celebrity Squares?" Nothing is going to blow "The Matrix" movies out of the water. They are going to rule all. Even your precious over-rated "Star Wars" trilogy.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:09:34 PM CDT

    Southside_2010 can eat shit!

    by movieteacher

    Hey u mother fucker.. If you dont like the matrix or LOTR u are not a serious fan of film. Dont get me wrong i thnk some of these comic book movies will be good.. most of them only decent.. but the matrix has reinvented everything we know about film! And LOTR was the best movie of 2001, just like 2 towers will be of 2002 and return of the king in 2003, so lay off! Ok.. know that i got that off my chest i can calm down and talk about what i wanted to before i read soutsides talkback. THE PUNISHER movie is not going to be one of those alright movies.. it will either blow our minds will how great it is or just suck shit! I wanna hear some talkback about who people think should be punisher??? I always that David Morse would be an interestin pick..he has the physical presence to pull it off and the kind of look that says my family has been killed and i have nothing left in my life but revenge... let me hear what u people think!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:10:14 PM CDT

    Incorporating deleted scenes?

    by kong33

    The Storm teaching scene was a good part left out, sometimes I think it's o.k. to seem like you're veering off on a tangent when you aren't (plus, She and others are desperately in need of character development throughout that film). Storm was commenting on the story of a man seeing a vision of crosses in the sky, he was told he would win many wars, under this emblem, by putting the crosses on his army's shields. Other scenes are great, but the one with Wolverine and Cyclops in the dorm room really bites (I don't think the acting is great or the scripting there). I hope they will really make a WOLVERINE movie. It's horrible that he will 'star' in X2, AGAIN. I think Cyke should handle the danger room sequence. Wolverine shouldn't do everything and the Danger Room doesn't suit him. I think Kamen's first and last track on the OST were great, along with the beginning of the 'Mutant School' track, but inbetween it was very poor, just trying to make your pulse higher during action scenes (not likely his fault, but specifically because of what he was asked for). I hope this will have enough extras to be the last DVD released for the original X-film.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:13:21 PM CDT

    Movie Teacher...

    by kong33

    Matrix didn't change everything we knew about film, it just made a great action movie with anime roots, a spiritual plot, and hip music/clothes. Someone can HATE LOTR without being an idiot, or not being a 'serious' fan of film.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:16:09 PM CDT

    Matrix did change everything...

    by lordweymont

    How many clones of "The Matrix" are we seeing now? How many times has fil incorporated special effects much like those in "The Matrix?" "The Matrix" offered a great story line with great effects within a very artistic world. "Lord of the Rings" is the best film of 2001. Can't wait for the DVD release next Tuesday.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:19:26 PM CDT

    LordWeymont u rock!!

    by movieteacher

    but i still dont here anything about who should be Pun!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:37:16 PM CDT

    The Punisher should be played by....

    by thebrokenflame

    Slyvester Stalone....well if he was younger anyway...i mean, go out and but Punisher 13, one panel with him looks exactly like him..

    oh and...Lord of the Rings wasn't that good, and the Matrix didn't change anything, because a lot of things, movies, tv, music videos and football games all used that camera technique before the matrix came out.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:52:46 PM CDT

    X-Men 1 1/2??? Is this a joke??

    by cooldan989

    If they're going to raid comic book lovers' wallets again when they should have just released the damn extra footage in the original cut, they could at least title something something less shameless than "X-Men 1 1/2"! No way am I going to let Fox have more of my money from this, because I saw the movie and bought the DVD already! Speaking of which, I bet all the scenes that will be included are already in the branching version of the film on the original DVD, if not on the upcoming special edition DVD next year! (Which I'll RENT, thank you very much!) But I am excited about the sequel which I've been eager to see ever since the ending of the first one which delivered one hell of a cliffhanger. Also, I'm excited about Spider-Man 2, because if it's even almost as good as the first, I'd be crazy not to be there opening day!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:53:47 PM CDT

    Correction...

    by cooldan989

    I said "something" twice there...I meant "title IT something", lol...

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  • Aug 03, 2002 12:59:35 PM CDT

    The Punisher was my favorite comic character back when I was hea

    by iamlegolas

    I loathed the Dolph Lundgren movie version though it did have its moments and no way should Stallone play him. He should be played by an unknown, someone in their 40's and in the style of Garth Ennis's Punisher. Keep the costume in this time or at the very least a skull shirt.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 1:25:27 PM CDT

    my casting choices...

    by theatarisfan

    Benicio Del Toro as the Punisher.
    Kurt Russell as Nick Fury.
    William H. Macy as Mr. Fantastic
    Sharon Stone as Invisible Woman
    Matt Damon as Human Torch
    Vin Diesel as Thing

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  • Aug 03, 2002 1:27:03 PM CDT

    Daredevil looks so out of the closet gay

    by millermeusa

    the daredevil preview looks so f**king gay....i mean....whats gonna happen in the second act is he gonna break into song and dance? maybe sit home and watch"Queer as Folk"?

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  • Aug 03, 2002 2:18:21 PM CDT

    I have some casting news about The Punisher...maybe!

    by prickle28

    I Have a cousin who happens to be one of the more popular mid-card wrestlers in the WWE. The last time I spoke with him he told me some interesting news. It seems that Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson has been approached to play The Punisher, also the folks at Fox talked to Triple H for a part in X-Men 2. Mind you this was months ago and things have changed since then. The Rock is now going to film Heldorado. As for Tripple H; it seems that Vince McMahon dosen't want to loose him to movies too. With the WWE's ratings in the toilet McMahon is trying to keep rumors of his Stars leaving the company to do films in check. From what my cousin says the atmosphere in the locker room is very tense. (The reason I don't mention who my cousin is because, the wrestlers are not supposed to talk about what happens back-stage. This info could get him in trouble).

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  • Aug 03, 2002 2:23:21 PM CDT

    WHAT?! NO CAPTAIN AMERICA??

    by noriko takaya

    Aw comeon, I've been waiting for a big budget, all out Captain America flick! Put James Cameron or Ridley Scott in the director's seat, get a kickass script going and you could really have something there. Then use the profits to buy up all copies of that 1991 "effort" and burn them--it's the least we could do by way os apology. One thing though, they're gonna have to update Cap's origins. World War 2 was what--63 years ago? Let's say the Super Soldier program was something cooked up for Desert Storm. Just my 0.02 cents. Either way, bring on Cap!! Toppu o Nerae!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 3:07:48 PM CDT

    Whats all this bitchin about marvel movies??

    by moose420

    I'm stoked that all this movies are finally getting made and being made the right way, I think us comic book fans deserve it after sitting threw Batman 2,3,4 yeah Only Batman 1 was a good adaption, And same with Superman 1 the rest blew. So now all the comic book movies are getting made even Batman vs. Superman can u belive this shit? I'm just stoked!!!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 3:54:08 PM CDT

    "And-a One, And-a Two..." OR... Give Us a Dazzler Movie! NOW!

    by jollydwarf

    Vot? You tink I'm keeding? Well, okay, I am. But any opportunity to have a hot-ass curvacious chick skating around in a skintight outfit must be taken. Find the plot later. Make her a 'prominent character' in X3. But really, isn't Marvel going to start stepping on its own toes in two or three years? Hell, "X2" and "Hulk" are basically going to hit at the same time. I mean, if the above list of characters is just the CONFIRMED roster, then you have to imagine a year from now another half-dozen will be added. Plus this is probably going to cause DC and other publishers to really fast track their product, which will cause lots of shittiness based around troubled souls running around in tights. Of course, like any (marginally) sane person, I hear "X 1 1/2" and the story loses all credibility INSTANFUCKINGTANEOUSLY. P.S. Captain America would be a tough one. Throwing a shield around and dealing with a masked, ancient Nazi in the era of new, more subversive enemies just seems really anachronistic. P.P.S. Start up some new superheroes altogether! Howzzabout Fartman and SuperBeet in a buddy/comic film? With comic relief sidekick Ma-ma-ma-Monkey Boy?

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  • Aug 03, 2002 4:13:43 PM CDT

    Punisher casting?

    by maxcalifornia.

    If the movie is supposed to be opening in Aug 03, they should have at least cast the main actor by now! Somehow I don't think that release date is going to stick. I guess I'll have to brush up on whatever Garth Ennis has written, I gave up on The Punisher when he died and got resurrected as some kind of angel of death, Jeez. Yeah anyway, who's going to be playing Frank C...David Morse could be interesting, although I suspect they'll want some kind of big name in the lead role

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  • Aug 03, 2002 5:27:16 PM CDT

    JUST WONDERING??

    by movieteacher

    Maybe I read and forgot, but which film co. owns the rights to PUNISHER?

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  • Aug 03, 2002 6:06:53 PM CDT

    capt. america

    by madmunson

    Just a thought, but how bout paul walker from fast and the furious as cap. He looks the part, so why the hell not?

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  • Aug 03, 2002 6:41:12 PM CDT

    no subject

    by kaleb

    I think by X-men 1 1/2, they mean the upcoming DVD that's gonna drop near the end of the year. So, guys just relax, k.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 7:10:17 PM CDT

    Matthew McConaughey for Captain America.

    by christopher3

    Kyle McLachlan for Iron Man. Joaquin Phoenix for Ghost Rider. There're some casting suggestions that won't break the bank.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 8:03:16 PM CDT

    movieteacher: who are you?!

    by 81666

    seriously who are you?! huh! i mean how do you say no one can be a serious film fan if they don't like lotr or the matrix? honestly huh?! really w h o a r e y o u ?!?!?!?! man, i thought lotr was okay, fine, i liked the matrix the more and more i saw it. lotr still was better than sw. star wars has awful direction no matter how you cut it. there's a lot of shit sci-fi out there people, so don't try to blanket others out there saying they don't know film! so who am I?! fucken critics, YEARGH!!!!! -81666

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  • Aug 03, 2002 8:11:37 PM CDT

    81666

    by movieteacher

    Let me explain myself,first of all i was upset to see two of my fav films being trashed. I can respect someone not likeing Matrix and Fellowship if they have resonable reasons for it. Both films have first rate direction, cinematagraphy, acting, and are just amazing! I just wanna know, you are talking bad about me cuz I didnt respect someones opinon, but arnt you being a hipocrit not respecting what I have to say! By the way I just want to state once again that DAVID MORSE would be a great PUNISHER!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 8:39:36 PM CDT

    Bruce Campbell as the Punisher!!!!

    by mrpeanut

    I can't believe no one thought of this yet.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 9:44:33 PM CDT

    LOTR DVD

    by yaba

    Does anyone now if there will still be a second LOTR dvd released in November? I heard that there will be. If there is I'll wait to get mine then.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 10:01:48 PM CDT

    THE PUNISHER

    by silenttype

    Jeezus guys, Dolph Lungdren IS the Punisher!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 10:04:47 PM CDT

    movieteacher: hypocrite?!

    by 81666

    no, no i did note it, i said "who am i" as in who am i to bog down this guy critique on films. therefore pointing out what i just said as in making such points as being ludicrous to begin with. i am no one else superior to make a point. but also i wasn't attacking you on your personal opinion, you have as much a right as anyone, i was attacking the statement you said that was blanketing "anyone who didn't like lotr or matrix isn't a serious film fan." see, there's a difference between an opinion and shoving it in others faces as if they're wrong.

    EXAMPLE...
    OPINION: i thought lotr and matrix were awesome, they were great.

    BLANKET STATEMENT: whoever didn't like lotr or matrix isn't a serious film fan.
    .... you understand what i'm saying now?? i'm not personally trying to attack you, but think about how you word things, cuz not everyone shares the same lifestyle, tastes nor choices as you do.

    -81666

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  • Aug 03, 2002 10:05:50 PM CDT

    Patrick Stewart's boat - Make It So?

    by kferris61

    There is a large boat moored at a Vancouver marina right now. It is registered in Florida. It's name is "Make It So". Is this Patricks Stewart's boat? This would be a good place for him to stay at while filming X2....although I am not sure he would want to be so obvious.

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  • Aug 03, 2002 10:19:37 PM CDT

    Sgt. Nick Fury

    by voice o. reason

    "Sgt. Fury and the Howling Commandos" was a 1960's WWII comic book. In the comics, Fury was eventually promoted to Colonel, and then joined the CIA. After being a top-CIA man in the 1960's, he was given command of SHIELD. As the decades wore on, they explained why Nick didn't age by saying he took a secret serum that keeps him young (which is total bullshit...if such a secret formula did exist in the Marvel Universe, why is it only SHIELD agents are allowed to take it, huh?).

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  • Aug 03, 2002 11:52:07 PM CDT

    Steven Segal as The Punisher

    by the seeker

    OK, I no big Steven Segal fan, in fact the only movies I ever liked by him were "Above the Law" (his first movie)and "Executive Decision" (where he gets killed 15 minutes into the movie). But fans of the comic must admit that Segal *looks* just like the Garth Ennis/Steve Dillon version on the Punisher. Maybe the role of Frank Castle could jump-start Segal's career, or take him to another level. As for comics into movies, Hollywood needs to get off their butts and make a series of PREACHER movies! Ennis's Preacher begs to be put on film!

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  • Aug 03, 2002 11:59:13 PM CDT

    X-Men 1.5..........

    by manosthof

    ......"The Search For More Money". Goes to my cardinal rule of DVD's these days...... don't buy it unless it says Super Duper Special Directors Gold Plated Edition Version 2.0 on it, because that's out NEXT month. Oh well, still better than Lucas, who, in the next revision of Star Wars Ep. IV, will have the Death Star Exhaust Port shoot first. As for the LOTR release, I can hold out until November for the (hopefully) definitive version of the DVD. The studios see a marketing ploy, a money grab, and now sense blood. Yield your wallets, boys! Dilton Doiley: The Motion Picture won't finance itself!

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  • Aug 04, 2002 12:03:16 AM CDT

    Seagal.......

    by manosthof

    ......is the REAL Punisher, because his films punish the viewing audience. My fave is when he is fighting for the environment in On Deadly Ground and detonates an oil drilling platform. I guess if you detonate her big time enough, no harm to the ecosystem, eh? Well, at least he had less of a gut than usual in Exit Wounds......

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  • Aug 04, 2002 12:10:28 AM CDT

    Who should play the Punisher?

    by tronic

    To play the Punisher an actor of range is needed. Someone with the 'chops' of Clint Eastwood (who would be perfect if he were younger) and the physical presence of Sylvester Stallone (who should not even be considered. Look, after all, what he did to Judge Dredd

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  • Aug 04, 2002 12:38:43 AM CDT

    chris meloni - punisher

    by citydoglax

    Chris Meloni would be a great punisher...

    Paul Walker's not a bad idea for Cap.

    The one thing that always bothered me about X-Men the movie was Rogue. Isn't she supposed to be a hard bodied southern chick - like mid-20's? It always seemed like I was watching Jubilee instead...

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  • Aug 04, 2002 1:27:55 AM CDT

    Voice O. Reason and Sgt. Nick Fury

    by sutureself

    It's just a nitpick, but if memory serves (and I'm an old guy, so it may not) the comic was called "Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos," not "...the Howling..." Like I said, a nitpick.

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  • Aug 04, 2002 1:50:17 AM CDT

    stop the bitching about x-men "1.5"

    by bearison ford

    i'd gladly shell out some more bucks for an improved version of this film. if you want to bitch about the dvd cash rapings, point your finger towards sam raimi and the evil dead series.

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  • Aug 04, 2002 3:44:49 AM CDT

    Good choice, Movieteacher

    by zenda

    At first, like most people probably do, I thought along the lines of typical "action heroes" to play the Punisher. But you are absolutely right! David Morse- an unexpected choice- could do a fabulous job with the role. Right on!

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  • Aug 04, 2002 5:47:48 AM CDT

    Re: citydoglax/rogue

    by bearison ford

    if you look at rogue's initial introductions even in the comics, she was almost exactly how anna paquin portrayed her in the film, young, afraid, naive and innocent. she didnt turn into that busty brainless bullshit until Jim Lee took over, and even then, that's practically how he made ALL the females look. between him, mcfarlane, and liefeld, they practically ruined serious and semi-realistic comics and characters with all their superflouous shoulder pads, biceps, tits, and knee high fucking boots etc etc etc. regardless, i think Paquin is a fox (aging gracefully more with each year) and did a great job and can't wait to see her in the sequel (hopefully taking advantage of her powers and kicking ass)

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  • guy pearce, angelina jolie and timothy dalton in terry gilliam's DOCTOR STRANGE*****viggo mortensen is THE PUNISHER, a ringo lam film*****nicolas cage in john woo's IRON MAN*****dennis quaid, meg ryan, paul walker and the voice of bruce willis versus alan rickman as dr doom in martin campbell's THE FANTASTIC FOUR*****hayden christensen in robert rodriguez's GHOST RIDER*****okay, that's all i got for now

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  • Aug 04, 2002 10:55:36 AM CDT

    Julian Clary IS The Punisher

    by napoleonwilson

    ..though perhaps punishing ass is not what you all expected.

    Barry Van Dyke is Captain America IN Galactica 80!

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  • Aug 04, 2002 11:56:14 AM CDT

    I'm not trying to rain on the parade here, folks, but here&#

    by cinematt

    Let me start this off by saying I've been into the Marvel Comics genre since I was a young boy in the early '70s. Specifically, I was most into Spider-Man, but also knew all about the rest of the Marvel Super Heroes Roster.
    I'm glad to see that so far, Hollyweird is 2 for 2 with the new wave of Marvel hero adaptations (X-Men and Spider-Man, IMHO). I'm not even going to talk about the crap they flung at us in the 80's ala The Punisher,Captain America, etc.

    My big fear is this: Now, every Hollywood hack producer with any kind of pull in tinsel town is going to fall all over him or her self trying to get the next big Marvel Movie out. This is called the Law of Diminishing Returns, my friends, and it bodes no good. For example, next year alone, we have X2, The Hulk and Daredevil. Further down the road, we'll have the Spider-Man sequel, plus film adaptations of The Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Dr. Strange, etc., etc., etc.
    The snag to all of this is that the faster they crank them out, the less quality you'll find in them. In the name of raking in the almighty dollar, the studio execs are only too willing to sacrifice excellence for expediency, as all of you are too painfully aware.

    Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Perhaps we've finally gotten to a place where the comic book genre has finally gained enough respect that the studio heads now know they can't simply buy off the faithful followers of their heroes with a few crummy quickies made on the cheap. But I've seen one too many bastardizations of characters I've known and loved, thanks to the movies and TV, to just forget all about because there have been exactly TWO worthwhile renditions.
    That's just my opinion. What do you guys think?

    Have a nice day!
    Cinematt

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  • Aug 04, 2002 1:15:21 PM CDT

    Batman led us down this slippery slope

    by doubting thomas

    When I first saw Batman, I was disturbed about a young Joker killing Batman's parents. The origin story was altered for film and no one seemed bothered. At that time, I thought this bodes poorly for every other comic adaptation. And it gets worse with every film. Donner's Superman was respectful of the source material while adapting it to present times. Because there was no hue and dry from the fans on Batman, changes for the sake of the director's "vision" will eventually get to the point where the source material becomes unrecognizable. Spiderman sealed the deal (don't get me started on the revisionist Blade, it just didn't have the iconic status of Spiderman, or I'd spend the rest of this post on THAT movie). No Gwen Stacy, no mechanical web shooters, etc. Ang Lee's Hulk, if successful, will be another step in this direction. Now granted, as has been pointed out, Stan Lee had one origin idea and that was the radioactive magic bullet. I can see changing that. It makes sense and doesn't hurt the essense of the character. No mechanical web shooters? There is no reason for this and it weakens the character of Peter Parker. Eventually some director is going to start using comic titles in the same way the Bond franchise used only the Flemming titles. Look for "David Fincher's" Flash in 2005, "M. Night's" Power Man in 2006 and "Joel Schumacher's" . . . never mind.

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  • Aug 04, 2002 4:07:51 PM CDT

    OK OK Here's the chill pill......

    by boiiinng

    I remember vividly reading a report a few months ago that either came from Bryan Singer himself or a producer on X-Men that Bryan was shooting new scenes for an upcoming Ultimate Edition DVD. These scenes were never filmed and cut from the film's budget by an unfaithful budget department at FOX and can be found in the book adaptation which I have also read. From the report I read, the scenes include origin stories for Cyclops and Storm, and more footage between Xavier and Magneto: The one thing I remember from the adaptation that was not in the movie, was a part of the dialogue between Xavier and Magneto after the senate hearing. When Xavier begins to scan Magneto's mind, he gets mad and squeezes his fist which causes Xavier's wheelchair to shrink and levetate, then Xavier stops and the chair is slowly lowered back to the floor. This was a heightened bit of tension that I wish was left in the film, so hopefully this is the scene which Bryan is reshooting. I may be entirely wrong about that, but I do know that additional scenes for the first movie are supposed to be filmed for the new DVD including the aforementioned characters.

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  • Aug 04, 2002 10:57:47 PM CDT

    Who should play Punisher?

    by pan demonium

    Henry Rollins, of course... Yeah, maybe he's not an actor, but he would look great in the suit with the big skull on the front (please don't let them change his costume design) and he can get really, really pissed off...just a suggestion...

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  • Aug 04, 2002 11:46:54 PM CDT

    Fans

    by doubting thomas

    Fans are like a cult. Without the fans, the cult can't survive, but fans never realize their own power. So sad. The last true fan base is the Christians, and I gaurantee that LOTR movies will exceed the last film and not fall victim to sequelitis because of us. Unfortunately Hollywood and fans will never realize why the LOTR franchise breaks every movie rule.

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  • Aug 05, 2002 12:05:59 AM CDT

    Can't let it go

    by doubting thomas

    Batman Forever was the best adaptation ever. It's amazing Shumacher stuck to the script and his visuals complemented perfectly. Then on Batman and Robin things went horribly wrong, and who knows why. The Graysons story was perfect, the inside jokes, the best of the lot. Jim Carrey . . . perfect. The only downside was Tommy Lee as Two Face. For continuity's sake, it should've been Billy Dee. Batman Forever is the most lucrative of the Superhero franchise and should be a blueprint for all to follow. Yet the fans ignore this one, even though it was so faithful to the source material. And Hollywood ignores it, even though it was the most profitable. How does this happen? It's enough to make you think that Clinton's two terms were no accident of history. In the end, it's all about PR.

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  • Aug 05, 2002 12:07:09 AM CDT

    Southside_2010

    by patient37

    Stop butchering old Kevin Smith gags, you jack ass.

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  • Aug 05, 2002 12:08:49 AM CDT

    Pan

    by childsizedhands

    i was actually going to mention Rollins. he's been in a few movies (does johnny Mnemonic count as a movie?), and he's actually a pretty decent actor. fuck knows he looks the part.

    if i had to pic a hollywood 'A-list' actor, i'd say russell crowe. he's good at giving characters the kind of emotion a Punisher would need. and he seems to take his roles somewhat seriously.

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  • Aug 05, 2002 12:22:49 AM CDT

    PUniSHER

    by movieteacher

    K..
    well i have spoken my mind several times about how david morse would be great but now that u mention it.. henry rollings is almost the perfect choice...physically atleast.. he does look the part.. however leading material, i think not..i have seen him in a few movies johhny nemonic,lost highway, jack frost,heat, and a few others anyway.. he is decent in those but i dont know that he has what it takes for people to take him as a leading man seriously..Its too bad to becuz ur right.. physically he is perfect for the role.

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  • Aug 05, 2002 10:18:52 AM CDT

    Rollins would never do PUNISHER...

    by sleazyg.

    ...since he fucking hates guns. He watched his best friend/roommate shot and killed right in front of him on the front steps of their apartment years ago, and it hit him really hard. Anybody who knows anything about Rollins and his life would realize there's no way in hell he'd take the job.

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  • Aug 05, 2002 11:22:25 AM CDT

    Dolph Lundgren should be Punisher - Oh wait...

    by dougpaging

  • Aug 05, 2002 11:52:19 AM CDT

    A CGI Paul Lynde as The Punisher

    by itsover

    that is all

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  • Aug 05, 2002 1:20:11 PM CDT

    Punisher casting

    by ribbons

    Could I get some feedback on this? I know my opinions aren't worth much around here but I think SAM ROCKWELL would make a good Pun. For real.

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  • Aug 06, 2002 12:10:53 PM CDT

    no subject

    by aeon x

    Morpheus rips off Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan rips off Gandalf, and I'm sure Gandalf rips off someone else in an even older story. A lot of these plot elements have been rehashed for years upon years, I'm fairly certain.

    The only thing that The Matrix reinvented was SFX action shots in movies. The story isn't anything new by any means. As for The Fellowship of the Ring being the best movie of 2001, I think that is definitely disputable. While it wasn't a bad film by any means, I think I would also say Shrek and Mulholland Drive give TFotR a run for its money. But that's just my opinion.

    And now, about X^(3/2) (heh...math joke), since I never bought the original DVD and I liked the movie, I think I'd pay a respectable amount of money for a new upgraded DVD. But if it were rereleased in theathers...I don't know about that one.

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  • Aug 06, 2002 12:22:05 PM CDT

    I'll wait for X-Men 1-3/4

    by andel crodo

    You know, the one where they replace Storm's line with CGI footage of her feeding Toad a scarf.

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  • Aug 06, 2002 12:46:34 PM CDT

    Marvel films

    by batman_9

    it is truly great time for comic book fans. i keep hearing about how the previous flood of comic book movies ruined the properties years ago. i disagree. yes there were some horrible adaptations, but other than the gosh awful BATMAN AND ROBIN, no other major comic book property was brought to life. studios and directors simply didn't care about the limited fan interest of Steel, Barb Wire, Judge Dredd and unfortunately, Spawn. the movies that are being rushed into production now have X-MEN and SPIDER-MAN to use as examples where as everything else was measured by BATMAN. a good film but not a faithful comic book adaptation. fear not fans. i think most of our comic book properties are safe. one thing must be added though. in order to make a true Punisher and GhostRider movie, they need to go the BLADE route and get the "R" rating. you can't make those films family friendly like SPIDER-MAN and you shouldn't try too. thats my opinion anyway. heck a really good Batman movie would push the boundries of PG-13 just like DAREDEVIL is expected too.

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  • Marvels explanation for Fury not aging is that he participated in the attempts to recreate the Super Soldier formula that created Captain America (not just some random serum they have laying around). The formula did not have the super hero creating effects that they had on Captain America, but the did grant longevity to Fury. I don't think its any more bullshitty than any other comics origin. They've actually had some comics where people researching the Super Soldier serum have approached Fury and SHIELD in rather unfriendly ways.

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  • Aug 06, 2002 9:03:57 PM CDT

    SpringHeelJack/F4/Roger vs. Stan

    by drop johnson

    Hey. Just wanted to toss in my .02 re: the Roger Corman F4 film. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I know someone will) but I believe it's a straight up legal issue...? Marvel nailed that Corman coffin shut to keep this version, which is pretty shitty, out of the collective unconscious. The main reason I think that's the case is b/c if it COULD be released by Corman, he'd do it in a heartbeat. While 'interning' at Concord in the early nineties, one of the script development guys held up the VHS rental box for DRACULA RISING and went.... 'Looks cool, huh?' I said, 'Hell yeah, it looks as good as the Coppola box! How is the movie?' The reply was 'It's awful! But as long as people pick up the box and pay the rental fee.. who cares?' I mean it's no secret that Rog is ALL about the bottom line, but that was an early education for me re: Marketing vs. Reality. The point being... if there's a dime to be made off of the B Movie version of F4, then that man will collect it. The worst part of all for me, was being not only a lifelong comic fan, but a Marvel kid all the way, and interning at a production company in the midst of shooting a live action version of the Fantastic Four and they wouldn't even let me visit the set! Bastardos! The only upside was that I was in the office the day they were casting for Sue Storm. 50 Invisible Women all crowded into a cramped Brentwood office space, pacing and mumbling lines under their breath... "look out Reed.. look..OUT Reed. look out REED!" That almost made up for it. Almost. And, in case anyone doesn't know (hard to believe on this board), you can find copies of this version at Comic Cons/Shows, etc... sometimes they're rough quality, but it's certainly entertaining in it's own f'd up kinda way.

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