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Gigolo Joe as SUPERMAN -- Bullseye as BATMAN!!!

Hey folks, Harry here... Entertainment Weekly published the 'short-list' for the roles of BATMAN and SUPERMAN for Wolfgang Petersen's SUPERMAN VS BATMAN written by Andrew Kevin Walker. This list was made up of 5 names. Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell, James Franco, Jude Law and Paul Walker. Definitely an interesting list and bit of journalistic excavation on EW's part, but AICN has got ya the really short list... um, actually who got the parts.

According to Nanobot 01 that has been stationed in Lorenzo's office on the Warner Brothers Lot since October 18, 2000... Well, it looks as if they've wrapped up their Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne!

Colin Farrell is BATMAN and Jude Law is SUPERMAN.

Ya know what? That actually doesn't suck in my book. The choices are actually daring in the sense that both actors are actually actors and not STARS. Both actors are invisible in roles. I do think it is rather odd that Colin Farrell is playing Batman instead of Superman given his experiences in phone booths, but maybe he can give Jude Law some pointers about phone booth etiquette.

All joking aside, Colin's got the eyes and the somberness to be BATMAN, his experiences playing BULLSEYE has his physical tricks up to speed and he definitely has the chops to pull off the character. I'm told he is definitely in. FYI... He's 5'11", 26 years old.

Jude Law has already played a man of steel once in A.I., but somehow I doubt the characters will have too much in common beyond that. Imagining the fun he'll have with Clark Kent and the charm he'll wield with Supes... Well, this could really really be something. His deal is still being hammered I'm told, but it is very very close to drying the ink time. FYI... He's 5'11", around 145 lbs, 29 years old. If you look at the original Fleischer SUPERMAN he wasn't the bulked up muscle-builder that SUPERMAN has become today. Why's he need giant muscles? He's Kryptonian, he doesn't need em, he's got a yellow sun powering him instead.

I keep asking Nanobot 01 for a copy of the script, so we can see what it is that Wolfgang and crew are going to be working from, but alas we have yet to have a successful lift. Perhaps more people need to out on the hunt. Hmmmmm, if only Mysterio wasn't such a Marvel prig... Perhaps Houdini could whip it up? Or maybe... you?

Seems like this project is headed in the right direction. Let's hope it doesn't derail.

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  • July 24, 2002, 4:32 a.m. CST

    First!!! Isn't Jude Law inherently scrawny?

    by Charlie & Tex

    Sure, Chris Reeve worked out to be Supes, but at least he had a reasonably big frame on him.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:35 a.m. CST

    by lazymanschair

    This sounds good. Colin Farrell as Batman, great role for him, should boost his statusconsiderably, Im Irish and I think his American accent is pretty convincing. I'd like to hear what you guys think of it. Not to sure on Jude Law. He has the face, but not the bulk. Hope this aint just rumour and it pans out.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:35 a.m. CST


    by Primus

    Not too sure about this - Colin Farrell as Batman sounds good, but Jude Law as Supes? Can't see it at all. But we shall see. I remain optimistic....

  • July 24, 2002, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Perfect Casting...

    by agentclock

    Jude Law was ideal in my books...he will bulk up for the role and wow everyone.... Colin Farrell will also be great... This project is becoming great...

  • July 24, 2002, 4:42 a.m. CST

    Damn it I wanted George Clooney as Batman and Val Kilmer as Sup

    by Regis Travolta

    What kind of bullshit casting is Colin Farrell and Jude Law? Harumph! Double harumph! Oh and throw in Michael Keaton as the Joker and Jim Carrey as Lex Luthor and you'll get my money.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:43 a.m. CST


    by BDDres

    I am actually quite pleased with this decision (if it really goes down). I may not have liked all of the movies Jude Law's been in, but it definitely wasn't his fault, his acting's always been superb in my book. As for Colin Farrell, I had the same feeling about this guy the first time I saw him as when I saw Guy Pearce for the first time in LA Confidential...I just had to know more about this guy cuz he's gonna be huge. He was so awesome and stole every scene in Tigerland that right there I knew this guy would be big. If Bullseye doesn't do it for him, then Batman will. So for now, much like the Hulk, they got a great cast in place so far, let's hope the rest falls in place as well, cuz after what WB did to the last several Batman movies, I haven't had much hope in their ability to crank out a comic book movie as good as Blade, X-Men, or if hell freezes over, one as good as Spider-Man. I think these guys are great actors and they'll be great as batman and superman. Now I'm actually interested in this project and would like to know more about the story they have in mind.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:47 a.m. CST

    Wow. I'm actually impressed

    by St.Buggering

    Could it be that we've passed the age of doing these projects with stunt casting? These are a couple of really impressive actors. I would never have thought of either of them, but seeing their names connected to these characters, I can see it. I read a little interview snippet with Petersen about how he views American culture (and therefore these characters) from an outside perspective, and now he's cast two more foreigners in the roles. This could get interesting.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Here we go again - he's not big/small/tall enough...


    Haven't we had the same arguments time and time again the minute there's a whiff of someone cast in a role who doesn't fit the stereotypical image of a character? May I remind you of the fuss (even hatred) aimed at the casting of a certain Mr Keaton as the Dark Knight. And what about Spider-man - remember the hate mail campaign? I believe I'm right in saying that both of those movies turned out ok - just relax, sit back, try not to be a total geekboys and give them a chance! These guys are GREAT ACTORS - that's what the genre needs.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Jude Law is too short for Superman. He is only 5'10

    by Steal_Dragon

    Brendan Fraser is better because he is 6'3 and he has the corny act down with Bedazzled and the action hero act with innocence with George of the Jungle, maybe Jude Law for Batman even though I would like to see Dylan Mcdermott as the caped crusader. Come on, whoever said Batman VS Superman is going to be a drama is blind because look at Superman's outfit, he wears his red underware on the outside, that is why Superman 1 with Reeve failed at the end because they put the drama with Lois dying and they brought her back with him running around the globe, by the way, whoever thought of doing that should have been shot, It should have been like the first hour of the movie, corny as a hell because that is Superman, corny as hell. I think Batman VS Superman should be more of a Black Comedy, with badass, dark, reckless Batman meeting and teaming up with Boyscout Superman kinda like Rush Hour with the two different personalities trying to cooperate with each other, beating up Lex Luthor played by John Malkovich and also beating up Joker, and it has to be Joker. Never forgave Burton for killing off the greatest villian in comicbook history, that just killed Batman 1 for me.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:54 a.m. CST

    Potentially great.....

    by Mr_B

    I think Jude Law has the ability to really make this work, as long as he bulks up a bit. My only concern is how's his American accent these days? I thought it was a little ropey in Existenz.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:58 a.m. CST


    by SimplyStupid

    I had no interest in this before, but now? Jude Law is such a fine actor..I mean..look at the difference between his character in The Talented Mr. Ripley, AI, and Road to Perdition. And, Colin Farrell, well, he's taking the road less taken, and just for all the better, compared to many other "up and rising" stars. And, to the moron who thinks George Clooney and Val Kilmer would fit perfectly..Hmm..I hope you were being sarcastic. If not, may God have mercy on your soul. Anyway, I'm looking forward to this in the future. Looks like it could turn into a nicely formed movie, if they don't spin it around and screw it up the ear.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Much as I hate to be negative..

    by Glynyfaron

    ...a slightly built, blonde, effete English actor does not strike me as an obvious choice for the Man of Steel. Although there aren't many good actors in Hollywood who are muscular enough to be the comic Superman, could they not have gone for someone at least a bit more chunky?

  • July 24, 2002, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Oh dear

    by Call me Kenneth

    This doesn't sounds right, now does it?

  • July 24, 2002, 5:20 a.m. CST

    bowie for elrond!

    by saintaugust

    Hey shade, I can def. see Bowie as the Joker...but I think Bowie's true calling is as a James Bond villian. Just think of how great he would be in a role like that and then, best of all, he could do the title song.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Christian Bale was the best suggestion......

    by brisvegask

    Christian Bale was by far the best suggestion I have seen for batman. As for Jude Law as superman - that is just plain stupid. He is short and scrawny. Get someone with some 'presence'.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Kal-El and Brucie

    by awkwardboyhero

    I'm not sure I'll ever believe that a Jude Law Superman grew up in Kansas, but I'm happy. Excellent statement by Harry -- Supes doesn't need to look like he has a barrel under the red-yellow S. Speaking of which, please please please, in the name of all that is good and sane, let them have good costume designs. Oh yes, and a good script. ALSO: what is the Harry animation all about? I'm almost scared to ask.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Why doesn't anyone see???

    by Pablo36604

    This casting sucks. My thoughts: Jude Law: Great actor, horrible for Superman. Now, Jude Law as Luthor....hmmm....Bruce Banner....that woulda been cool too...and then Eric Bana could've been Superman. Superman HAS to look like Superman or the general public will NOT BUY it...and Bana fits the bill. If nothing else, use the kid from SMALLVILLE. I've never been impressed with his acting skills, but then...does Superman really have to act? The character isn't gonna require a whole lot of depth. Colin Farrell: Hehe...that's just too fuckin perfect. Good way to relaunch with a younger actor too. Just saw TIGERLAND the other day and I'm convinced. Farrell is the man....course, I'm talking about Will, but Colin will do nicely in his stead. Keep up the good work Harry....

  • July 24, 2002, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Jude Law + Farrel


    Harry? You are talking rubbish, Superman from day 1 has always been buff. About 6 ft 4 and huge. Chris Reeve was a perfect example of how he should look on screen. Jude Law is a gifted actor but sorry he is not Superman, "He's from Krypton why does he need muscles" that is completely beside the point! To remain faithful to the Comic Origins which made the character great, is the correct way to go. Farrel on the other hand could work, he certainly has the potential, however again, Batman from the Comic Book is 6ft 1 and 230lbs plus of angry muscle. But if they are going the WBros route with a rubber suit then he could be a great choice.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:37 a.m. CST

    Jude Law will work perfectly....Tim Roth for The Joker....

    by agentclock

    his accent will work fine...he has since nailed it since eXistenZ...just watch Road To Perdition for that......Peterson said he is looking for ACTORS who can handle complexity...and that can bulk up a bit....hense...he will be at least slightly for the blonde hair...its called dye...not an impossible thing to accomplish...i am frankly pleased as a pig rolling in shit that he is playing Superman...he was my first choice...its nice to see dream casting actually for Farrell...he was great in Tigerland...and can do a mean and gruff american accent...just look at Minority Report for that... for further casting...i still say TIM ROTH as THE JOKER....he has that Killing Joke vibe down Four Rooms

  • July 24, 2002, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Colin Farrell

    by Fatty McJones

    Go look this dude up on IMDb. In his picture there, he looks just like Superman! Me-thinks this casting is backwards. Oh, by the way, for those worried about size. These guys have plenty of time to bulk up, and camera tricks can make them seem bigger. Don't worry.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:41 a.m. CST

    James Franco should play Jeff Buckley!!!!

    by Cash Bailey

    The resemblance is truly frightening.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Jude law too scrawny?

    by el che'

    He's an actor. He has the kind of free time necessary to transform his body into whatever the role demands. (see Edward Norton, American History X) By the way, Tigerland was my first look at Ferrel, and I thought he was American at the time. Accent is a non-issue.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:58 a.m. CST

    I agree, they look backwards.

    by KypDurron

    Collin Ferrel for Superman and Jude Law for BatMan. Collin Ferrel has more of the classy kind of look, which goes with Superman better, while Jude Law looks more scruffy and I think he could do the "on the inside I'm a mess, but on the outside I beat the crap out of people." thing better.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:13 a.m. CST

    Jude Law as Superman

    by ProMidgetBowler

    After seeing Jude Law's previous work, I have COMPLETE faith in his ability to transform into any role needed... especially this one. I'm sure wowed the casting director's into shitting their pants. He's probably up right now, 6am with his personal trainer, as he will be until shooting starts (which is when? anybody know? maybe i just missed it) I also hope storyline wise that they get a good balance of "vs" and buddy buddy time. I hate that "vs" lasting until, like the last 15 minutes of a movie, kind of how robin wasn't really ROBIN until the very very end of batman episode 3 : the suckfest. And Tim Roth needs exposure!!! He would be PERFECT for joker! I also love the Malkovich suggestion for Lex Luther... he just has that stuck up villian aura.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:16 a.m. CST

    To paraphrase Olivia... let's not get physical

    by NathanDetroit

    So far almost all the criticisms here have revolved around the physical stature of these actors (and Law in particular). Take my advice and FORGET that. It no longer matters! Who could have imagined Will Smith in his early Fresh Prince days playing a heavyweight boxer - nay - THE heavyweight boxer. Ditto Robert De Niro. And as for height... look what they did for the hobbits with a few simple camera tricks. The important thing is that both of these guys can act. And as someone who has seen Law on the stage... I can tell you that GOD can he act. It would work.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:19 a.m. CST


    by chuckrussel

    'nuff said!

  • July 24, 2002, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Two Words: Tobey Macguire

    by CleverMovieName

    Did anybody think that kid would bulk up and look like Spider-Man? Former non-believers, raise your hands... you know who you are! Yeah, it's Hollywood, so these guys will look the part. And Jude Law was awesome in Road to Perdition and AI (about the only good quality of that film). This will work. Mark my words. CleverMovieName has said... something not that clever.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:29 a.m. CST

    I think it's backwards, too

    by Lujho

    I'm a little iffy about this, I think it would have worked better the other way around, but we'll see.******** Physique is a non-issue, as long as a guy is reasonably tall he can work out and end up looking good. fake muscles also help, but should be worn *under* the bodysuit, which is what the Spider-Man movie costume did.******** Facial features are much more important with these characters... Superman especially, and that's where I'm a little worried about these guys, especially Jude. I think Farrel looks more like supes than Law.********* I have an interesting idea though, that talented make-up artists (Rick Baker or whatever) could make each actor look more like they're supposed to. When I say "supposed to" I mean that Superman should look like the Fleischer cartoons/Alex Ross's version, while Batman should look like Neal Adams' version (Christian Bale would have been great, without make-up). With make-up, you could enhance Law's jaw (he had a fake jaw in A.I., by the way). Farrel also needs his eyebrows thinned out, and perhaps they could be given the trademark "wicked scowl" look that Keaton had, as did his cowl, as does Bruce Timm's Bruce Wayne from the New Batman Adventures, rather than boring arched eyebrows.******* To take the idea of prosthetics further, both characters, especially Superman, could have ever-so slightly subtley different faces depending if they are in their civilian guise or not, looking more robust and manly when in their superhero guises. As in the Animated series, Batman could have a slightly different chin/jaw than Bruce Wayne. This would not be obvious, but more of a subconscious thing.******** Oh well, thes actors aren't officially confirmed yet so perhaps discussion is premature, but there's definitely a question mark over both these guy's heads in my mind as far as their suitability goes. Though I acknowledge that it could be a lot, lot worse.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:35 a.m. CST

    Could someone tell me what the Harry head is this time

    by Dolemite_fan

    Is it Moriarty and Harry in a "69?" Anyways, I thought it wouldve good if Billy Crudup had one of the roles, particularly Batman/Bruce Wayne. Jude Law as Superman...well...he's a great actor, but I'll guess I'll have to wait on this one. Damn, is Colin Farrell getting every role in Hollywood now? Everyweek it seems he's cast in something else, hopefully they wont all flop like Antonio Banderas did seven years ago or so. Whatever Colin is paying his agent and publicist, they are definitely worth it.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Shut up, fools!

    by Monkey Lover

    This, if it is true, is some damn fine casting. And this film is looking like it might well rule over all. So, you fanboy scum, shut the hell up with the "he's two inches too short, blasphemy!!!"-style bullshit, or Colin Farrell himself will come and kick your arse. And he's rock hard, mainly because he's Irish. They should have Batman drink Guinness throughout the movie. And Jude Law is similarly damn fine casting. Y'all seem to think he has to be muscular in order to be convincing as Superman... well, muscular folks have managed to be convincing as a mild-mannered journalist so why the hell can't it work the other way? Fanboys are never satisfied. More and more comic book films than ever are being made by quality directors, writers and actors, and you are all still bitching and moaning. Shut up! Shut up until you are good enough to make a superhero film yourselves. Which will be never. So shut up.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:41 a.m. CST

    I like that

    by Matt_Helm

    I really do! This cast has me SERIOUSLY interested in this one, apart from your built- in geek interst, ya see? Anyways, I like to see Farrell do good, Law likewise, they

  • This piece of casting news is the worst thing I've ever read! Worst than the "black" Kingpin, worst than the Affleck Daredevil, and definitely worst than Nick Cage Superman! LUDE LAW!??? The casting people must be confusing Superman with Plastic Man. Scrawny is the perfect word to describe him. Now I have nothing against the guy, I actually think he's a great actor but visually he's not Superman, he's more like Nightcrawler. If he was a little bigger, and I'm not talking Arnold big but just a little bulkier, it would work. As for Collin Farrell, I have just one problem, he's already played a comic book hero, Bullseye. Why would they want him to play another one? After Daredevil, I might have a problem envisioning him as Bruce Wayne after seeing him play Bullseye. Other than that he'd be an ok Batman. Anyways, Warner Bros., you better hope this news is false or else you can kiss your DC comic franchises goodbye.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Colin Farrell should have been Superman!

    by Psyclops

    I just don't see Jude Law as the 'Man of Steel', just like I didn't see Christian Bale as the 'Dark Knight'. Colin will make a great Batman but he would have made an even better Superman! He's got the right look down, imagine him in the flowing red cape and blue get-up... it works! Jude is a great actor but I just don't see him as this character, maybe Joseph Fiennes or Billy Crudup... but not Jude Law!

  • July 24, 2002, 7:04 a.m. CST

    metropolis vs. gotham

    by xantheman

    The darkness of Gotham city is great but I think most of the action should take place in metropolis as the city is more real.Besides that, are Superman's scenes going to take place traditionally in daylight in metropolis and batman's at night in gotham? This would be annoying. The darkness of gotham is great but spiderman proved daytime action is better because you really want to see your heroes with loads of people around looking awe-inspired.I'm Batman.Kiss my cave.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:21 a.m. CST

    They should get...

    by Monkey Lover

    ... both John Williams and Danny Elfman's original scores for the earlier movies, combine them and then compose some new shit to bind 'em together. That would rule the planet more than anything else. Bosch!

  • July 24, 2002, 7:26 a.m. CST


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  • July 24, 2002, 7:34 a.m. CST


    by Miss Aura

    Excellent casting if you ask me. Jude Law is of the greatest actors in the world and will long be remembered for his superman role. Colin Farrell will ooze coolness as Batman too. 2 great looking men playing 2 of the greatest comic book characters ever sketched. At last, the studios are thinking with their head instead of their arse.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Hey Jude you'll do

    by heyjude62587

    If Tobey could pull if off (and he did a great job) Jude can do a great job doing the superhero thing. I mean Superman, he's kind a little wuss, HE'S GOT LASER VISION AND HE WON'T USE IT! I think Jude Law is good for playing a wuss. As for Colin Farrell I think he could do it too. He can be very dark and mysterious.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:45 a.m. CST

    go for it

    by Ali786

    well why not? no-one thought Michael Keaton or Christopher Reeves were good choices at the time... as long as it doesn't become a rubber-nipple neon orgy

  • July 24, 2002, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Jude Law is good but...

    by thebiscuit

    Brendan Fraser would have been far better. Superman is after all a big dork. Fraser would have nailed Superman's naivety. BALE for BATMAN.(hey, that's catchy).

  • July 24, 2002, 8:07 a.m. CST


    by Ali786

    but there is that one tiny flaw with Boreanez..he.cannot.act.

  • July 24, 2002, 8:13 a.m. CST


    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    Jude Law was born to play the BEYONDER in Secret Wars II: The Movie! Not SUPER-MAN! This is crazy!

  • July 24, 2002, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Jude?! YUUUCCKKK!!!

    by Flembar

    I am literally dumbfounded by how AWFUL the ida of jude law as Supes is. Does anyone appreiate how scrawny 5'11 145 pounds is? he is SOOO NOT Superman it boggles the mind once upon the time there wwas some talk about Brendon Fraser in the role... hmmmm maybe But Jude?! once again, WB proves they are friggin inept IDIOTS!

  • July 24, 2002, 8:39 a.m. CST

    What, What, Right Here!

    by rsw2

    Is it just me or is this a bit strange. i do not want to see this film, joke. i cannot wait, this has the potential to be a great flick!! Great casting so far!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Law is a rake and Farrel is one of those guys the industry think

    by Wee Willie

    Superman versus Batman is as bad and idea as Alien versus Predator. Oh well, the studio is going to make hundreds of millions of dollars, not me. So who cares what I think. But Jude Law is going to blow all his credibility on this one.

  • July 24, 2002, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Wil Farrel

    by MashManProds

    Yeah, he will be great as Batman....Oh, you said Collin Farrel. Sorry, who the HELL is he again? I'm still waiting for Superman vs. Batman vs. Predator vs. Aliens vs. The Care Bears vs. Orbity vs. Scrappy Doo vs. Jabberjaw

  • July 24, 2002, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Jim Caviezel!!!!

    by Kyle.Reese

    Someone said this before in one of these talksbacks but Jim Caviezel is so perfect for Batman/Bruce Wayne. And he's a brilliant actor to boot.

  • July 24, 2002, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Jim Caviezel & Billy Crudup

    by Primus

    Yeah, I wanted these two for Batman and Superman respectively. Maybe it isn't too late...?!?!

  • July 24, 2002, 8:55 a.m. CST

    This is the Most Promising Thing I've Read So Far.


    Why not?Both are quality actors. I still think the project is iffy at best.If they "borrow" some of the concepts from the animated World's Finest it might help.The way the two learn each other's secret identity makes me smile everytime I watch it.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Harry Head and Steal Dragon

    by dougmac

    The Harry Head is eyes wide shut and Steal Dragon has the best casting pair around. Mcdermott would be a perfect Batman in look, intensity and acting ability. Why does Jude Law even want to be Superman? He is a great actor but this seems totally wrong for him. Should get interesting

  • July 24, 2002, 9:12 a.m. CST

    This absolutely rocks

    by PriestYoungblood

    I like this casting - it's different, it's certainly risky, but it's got serious potential. I don't want to hear any "he's not buff enough" shit, because the movie's a long way off and we'vew all seen how much actors can bulk up for a role. I don't want to hear any "he's not tall enough", because we had thse same type of complaint about Wolverine and everyone loved X-Men. Of course, neither is American, so that's weird, but hell, they say American accents are the easiest to learn. Gets my vote. Go Wolfgang! Inspired choices.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Hmmm, not bad but....

    by WeedyMcSmokey

    .... I always pictured a Dark Knight returns era flick - One with Ed Harris as a dark brooding, violent Batman and I had no clue who would play Superman - nothing seems wrong or the perfect fit for this role. Clearly they're going for some kind of younger, hipper pairing - but these cats can act. Has potential for sure. As for the debate whether or not they're too small - well, I know that camera and special effects can make them appear larger - but I still feel that there needs to be a raw physical aspect to the characters, sure you may say "they can act that way" but for me even a 175 lb Jude Law doesn't project that kind of mystique. Oh well, I'm sure I'll live.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Superman's Bulk

    by Anton_Sirius

    Theory One- He grew up as a farmboy in Kansas, therefore he would have built up his muscles. Theory Two- Theory One sucks ass because Supes could lift a car when he was four months old, so unless he was out doing reps with Mt. Rushmore there's no way he COULD have built up his muscles. Theory Three- Anyone who delves too deeply into the physics behind Superman is just proving how big a dumb-ass they really are. Jude Law will do the true-blue American boy scout as well as he does EVERYTHING ELSE in front of a camera, which includes- robot gigolo, weirdo vampire, WWII marksman, and a man trapped in a Philip K. Dick nightmare. So shut yer noise, you!

  • July 24, 2002, 9:29 a.m. CST

    the problem with talk back...

    by hager

    is that by the time i get to the bottom there are dozens of things that have made me mad and i cant remember them all. in short: *anyone who says "this will suck" or "ive lost faith with this movie" when it is in fucking preproduction is a moron. * the person who said boreanz cant act is a gimp too. boreanz, if anything, is an underrated actor. *i think law seems a tad scrawny as well, but who the fuck cares? he's better than nicholas "hair plugs" cage. maybe they're trying something different. besides, they're making a BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN movie. how many times have fanboys lusted over this? now you kids are going to whine because billy fucking crudup isnt in the movie? too bad. make your own movie with your digital camera and mr. crudup. p.s. besides, relax, it's not like AICN hasnt been wrong before.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:31 a.m. CST

    How 'bout

    by Hud

    Mark Dacascos (Brotherhood of the Wolf) as Batman, Patrick Warburton (an Alex Ross painting come to life, boyos) as Superman? Plant this!

  • July 24, 2002, 9:33 a.m. CST

    what about chris klein??

    by mitemike

    what about Chris Klein? I know rollerball sucked but he already is tall,goodlooking..all he needs to do is bulk up..and he IS superman

  • July 24, 2002, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Rufus Sewell and Daniel-Day Lewis.

    by E Albert Bansom

    I remember first hearing Jude Law was cast in this movie. I thought to myself,"jeez, they cast Jimmy Olsen before anyone else" This guy can do anything, but he's not Superman. That's the end of story. Perhaps he's being sought after for the Joker. Now that is near perfect casting, since Willem Dafoe was already that stupid flying thing in that one cartoon. If I were casting this movie, I'd quit reading Movielines "Actors WE love" list and start looking at profiles for the roles. Rufus Sewell as Superman Daniel Day-Lewis as Batman/Wayne. Jude Law as Joker Kevin Spacey as Luthor.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I agree with Conan O'Brien

    by ChestRockwell

    The whole premise of the movie is preposterous. Superman has the ability to fly and the strength to lift cars, while Batman is just a guy that works out and has a cool gadget belt. It

  • July 24, 2002, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Damn, I was keeping my fingers crossed for Christan Bale as Batm

    by Elwood Blues

    But I think Jude Law will make a great Superman.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:49 a.m. CST

    When was Jude Law a vampire?

    by thephantomcat

    Please don't say Interview with a Vampire cause I own that movie and would be embarassed if I didn't catch his part as Suck Head #3. Oh yeah, I agree with the guy saying how stupid it is to "lose all faith in a movie" when it's barely in preproduction. I've got a pal declaring Daredevil d.o.a. and principle photography only wraped yesterday (i think). I think Collin Ferell is a great choice for the Dark Knight, and I'm also a huge Jude Law fan. Y'know, he actually reminds me of the guy who played Superman in that old black and white tv show. P.S. CGI Spidey kicked CGI Yoda's ass. BONG!!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 9:56 a.m. CST


    by Kielland

    I'm not a big fan of Jude Law, but I actually think this can work. Colin Farrell is a very good actor and will be a great Batman. The great thing about this is that now Jude Law might not have time to play the great detective vs Vlad Tepes. A role he is truly wrong for.

  • July 24, 2002, 10 a.m. CST

    Law and his body type

    by ItsOver

    Didn't you notice that Will Smith played Ali? C'mon.... think people. I hope these rumors are true, both are fine actors and I think they could do a decent job. **** Bowie as Joker? That's awesome. I would have never thought of it. Most geeks are so very limited in their casting choices. That's a really interesting one to think about.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:02 a.m. CST

    The Mass of Superman

    by Juggernaut125

    Y'know why Supes looks so buff? (Or "the real Superman" as someone stated earlier which made me chuckle.) It's because every issue / cartoon episode he's lifting huge boulders, or going head to head with super-strong villains, or running at super-speed. Also, one could say that BECAUSE he's from Krypton, he would have the perfect phsyque. They were described as a world of scientist geniuses. Don't you think they would have figured out how to "design" a population of healthy citizens, so that they could further focus their purposes on intellectual endeavors without having to worry about "hitting the gym" everyday? I'm not too keen on Jude Law as Superman, but as has been stated earlier. The movie is getting made and Joke Schumacher (sp?) isn't directing it and that should be enough to make me happy. Last thoughts: No nipples on the costumes guys. No rubber outfit for Bats, the guy needs to be able to lift his arms if he's supposed to be able to fight. Tim Roth as the Joker would be great. Robia LaMorte (Jenny Calendar from season 2 of Buffy) is PERFECT as Lois Lane. And how about Ed Harris as Lex Luthor?

  • July 24, 2002, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Jude Law?

    by Mr Chuff

    Man....I dont know the guy personally but I think he's a crap actor. He's not suitable for Superman in my opinion (which counts for shit on talkbacks like these). Farrell for Batman is a good choice though...

  • July 24, 2002, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by Kielland

    By the way, I have no idea what 5'11" and 145 lbs means, but I guess Superman should be over 1.90m/100kg.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:07 a.m. CST

    fraser versus bale? caviezel versus jackman? and why the hell no

    by tommy5tone

    back in the day, corona reported on a rumoured 'world's finest: batman/superman' flick that richard donner was supposedly developing. i can't remember if it turned out to be a hoax or what, but donner was reportedly quoted as saying he had mel gibson and daniel day-lewis in mind for the two leads. that's some pretty cool casting, but i don't think it'd fly today - gibson's just a little too old, the reclusive day-lewis is probably going back to his apprenticeship as a cobbler in italy once he's wrapped up 'gangs of new york'. and anyway, WB probably wants to grab that teen dollar, so we're thinking younger actors here. nothing wrong with that, but these are some iconic characters we're dealing let's choose wisely, OK? SUPERMAN: the actor needs to project strength, integrity and intelligence, while managing to portray mild-mannered reporter clark kent as well. i was always thinking affleck for this - something tells me he could pull off both parts of the portrayal, as well as do that sly humour thing that christopher reeve did so well. but affleck's daredevil now, and he probably won't wanna double up on superheroes. same goes for hugh jackman, who'd be flat-out perfect...but he's already wolverine. so i'm thinking brendan fraser - the man's tall and well-built, he can act pretty well, he can do sincere without coming across as a sap. jim caviezel runs a very close second. as for the jude law decision...yeah, i can see it. i don't love it yet, but gimme time and i could come around to wolfgang's way of thinking. BATMAN: gotta be a brooder. gotta balance the dark knight's obsessive side with a fair serve of straight-up heroism, not to mention exhibit the charm of billionaire bruce wayne. johnny depp, perhaps? personally, i always like val kilmer's take on bruce wayne/batman - he deserved a far better vehicle than schumacher's sideshow of ham acting and homo-erotic set design. but as i said, WB is casting young, so kilmer's probably outta the running (because he's such a fuckin' fossil). maybe viggo mortensen? actually, scrap that: he's my first choice for 'the punisher' (it's either viggo or a grungy dylan mcdermott). in the final analysis, gotta go with the people's choice on this one: christian bale. muscular. movie-star handsome. i haven't seen 'reign of fire' but i heard he acquits himself well in his few action scenes. and he knows how to balance the light and the dark - his work in 'american psycho' was top-fucking-notch. farrell? like law, a good, interesting choice- he did well in 'minority report' and justified a lot of the hype. but whether he can pull off the whole duality thing has yet to be determined. and as far as some of the other roles are concerned, let's get john malkovich as lex luthor, gary oldman as the joker and either jennifer connelly, naomi watts or kate beckinsale as lois lane. and robert forster as perry white. fuck, i've gone on a bit - i'm tommy five-tone, and i really hope they don't screw this one too bad.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:09 a.m. CST


    by Anton_Sirius

    In the Wisdom of Crocodiles.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:11 a.m. CST

    No, no, no

    by Jericho70

    First of all, I'm not screaming in outrage over this. If Warner Bros. went with their option to cast Paul Walker in one of the roles, I might be somewhat upset. Jude Law as Superman? He is much too small. Unless he hires the same trainer who helped Tobey Maguire get his build, he will not be a credible Superman. Collin Farrell as Batman? In all honesty, I have not seen Collin Farrell in enough movies to pass judgement. I never saw TIGERLAND, which I hear is his best role, so I guess I must go to the video store and rent it. However, if I used AMERICAN OUTLAWS, HART'S WAR, or MINORITY REPORT as my frame of reference, I would have to also disagree with this casting. Besides, I don't think Farrell will take it since he's already linked to a comic book movie with DAREDEVIL. Then again, Jim Carrey did do THE MASK and BATMAN FOREVER. The perfect casting for the role of Batman is Christian Bale. Not only does he have the dark attitude, he definitely has the build. If not Bale, then Johnny Depp could be a good choice. He has that uncanny ability to transform himself. Perhaps even Vin Diesel if he grew out his hair. However, whoever played Superman would have to spend some long hours in the gym to match Diesel's physique. Brendan Frasier would also be a good choice for Superman. Not only can he get the build, as proven with GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE, but he has the ability to play both the innocent boy scout who reaches his breaking point. Another good choice would be Matthew McConaughey. Just dye his hair and turn that Texan twang into more of a Midwestern accent, and he could pull the role off. Christian Bale as Batman. Brendan Frasier or Matthew McConaughey as Superman. It could work.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Bitter, Bitter Irony

    by Anton_Sirius

    "Jude Law's all wrong for Superman- let's get Paul 'Ain't Got Two Brain Cells to Rub Together' Walker! Or that kid who can't act from Smallville! Or Chris freakin' Klein!" Yeah, they'd all look great on the poster. Too bad the movie would come to a screeching halt every twenty seconds when they opened their mouths.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:13 a.m. CST

    C G I - we don't NEED live action

    by cncoyle

    Christopher Reeve was amazing. Michael Keaton was surprisingly good. But, do ANY movies even compare to Dini & Timm's BTAS or B&SA? If Hollywood wants a less "animated" look for Supes and Bats, okay, fine, do a Final Fantasy-type CGI film. That way we get Supes and Bats EXACTLY as they SHOULD look. Plus, the budget would be more manageable and the prescribed explosions and polar bears and whatever else they want would be less expensive to produce. Also, cameos would be very easy (Gimme JLA, JSA, Blue & Gold, hell, even the LEGION, while yer at it!)

  • July 24, 2002, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Jude Law has a similar build to...

    by Otter

    ...Christopher Reeve, and with some working out, he'll be great! How about Sadie Frost as Lana Lang? Yumm.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Farell is

    by joshuaonenine

    An excellent choice for Batman!

  • July 24, 2002, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Farell is a colder actor: Batman! Law, a more personable actor

    by Philippines

    Farell has always been a distant and cold actor. Look at Tigerland. He seems removed, somewhat dark. Perfect choice for Batman. Although Law has also portrayed similar characters, like in Gataca, he always seems accesible to the audience. He seems more forthright, closer to you. Perfect choice for Superman. Peterson and Co. choose more for the heart and soul of the two characters, rather than the obvious physical presence. Wise in my book.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Brendan Fraser

    by spider-ham

    I'm sorry if I'm going to upset the geek gods but really, there is only one man right now who can play Superman and that man is Brendan Fraser. Yes, Jude Law is a better actor and he could bulk up. I still think Bats vs Sup with Jude will be good. However Brendan Fraser is the better choice. no, the BEST choice.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:27 a.m. CST


    by The Colonel

    I love Jude Law, he is a GREAT actor and certainly more of an ACTOR than a MOVIE STAR, and he is the best part of the underwhelming Road to Perdition, but Superman is an AMERICAN ICON and needs to be played by an AMERICAN. That is CRUCIAL!!!!!!!! Batman, whatever, Farrell can do it, that's fine, it doesn't matter as much. But SUPES needs to be AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Knocker, regarding Boreanez and to the rest of u WHINEY, NO SEX

    by Larry_Dallas

    .......well, I like the casting. Like Law as an actor, think he can pull off the nobility and naivity of Kent/Supes.....just think, it coulda been NIC CAGE for Buddah's regards to Farrel, I can see it.....knocker, I too would have cast Boreanez, but I'm holding out for him to be cast in Arnosky's YEAR ONE...Boreanez IS Batman, but I think Farrel can pull it off...from what I've seen of him, he's, to address u loser talkbackers.....we are finallt getting all the comic/sci-fi/fantasy movies we've dreamed of and all u can do is WHINE.....Sure, iot's cool to debate casting and script treatments, but my buddah, the movie hasn't started filming yet and the masses are already bitching......why must u continue to give geekls like me a BAD name...let 'em make the movie and then weigh in on it.....knocker, I commend u on the Boreanez casting choice...u my friend, are a true genius......FLAME ON DORKS!!!!!........see ya in May, 2005.......

  • July 24, 2002, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Not Bad Picks

    by FanHalen

    I would've seen Wes Bentley as Batman and Josh Broilin as Supes............

  • July 24, 2002, 10:43 a.m. CST

    by Zen Man

    Jude Fucking Law as Superman? What The Holy Fuck is THAT?!!! Jude Law doesn

  • July 24, 2002, 10:47 a.m. CST

    .02 dollars, or, if you prefer, .001 Euros, or, even better, .04

    by grig_ocasek

    Damn, I've seen all the various Batman/Superman films way too many times. I was actually thinking on the way to work today that I'd look up Superman IV on IMDb before diving into more research books. So when this popped up, well, I was excited. I would have never picked these two for this particular project, but this is too perfect. From what I've seen of their work, they both seem like versatile actors who can pull basically anything off. Now a few things we need: First of all, only one pop song on the soundtrack. Pick wisely. Make it as good a choice as Supertramp's "Give a Little Bit" was to the first Superman film. Make sure that we have good people playing the supporting roles. In other words, get Jurgen Prochnow, but don't have him playing Perry White. In fact, I can't think of anyone who would be capable of playing Perry White correctly anymore. Hell, maybe Jann Wenner. One of the above posters mentioned Rubia La Morte for Lois. That sounds great. Then, you need the correct love interest for Batman. That correct one is Vicki Vale, and she should be played by someone who is neither Kim Basinger or Sean Young. As for the score, use pieces of Elfman and Williams' old scores, then get Shirley Walker or Ken Thorne to plug the holes. Or get Jerry Goldsmith to write a completely new score. Anyway, right now I'm too overwhelmed by the fact that the casting on this actually sounds kinda right. I shall be back, as soon as I've figured out who should play Gordon and Alfred...(Dan O'Herlihy as Alfred! Please! Oh, and remember: Manhattan is Metropolis. Donner has made it so.)

  • July 24, 2002, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Better than expected but still

    by Josey Wales

    Colin Farrell is a great pick for Batman. I think Jude Law is terrific but I'm not sure he's quite got the right look. No, Superman doesn't have to be Ahnuldt-like, but he'd look pretty silly being as skinny as Law is, IMO. But, I'd rather have a solid performance than a pitch-perfect look, so I won't complain much.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:51 a.m. CST

    I've got it.

    by grig_ocasek

    Alan Arkin as Commissioner Gordon. Hey, he looks like a guy who could have a beer and cheet on his wife...

  • July 24, 2002, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Who I pick for batman and superman

    by X-21

    While I am impressed at the 2 choices for batman and superman both actors have great talent. There are to people whoever in a perfect world that I think should play batman and superman. In a perfect...Michael Keaton..The original batman...and Chris tacky as that sounds..both stars breathed life into there roles making both characters apart of our culture. While I am excited at the chance to see 2 great comic heros battle out. I hope whoever they pick is a believable hero. my 2 cents worth

  • July 24, 2002, 11:02 a.m. CST

    American Icon = American ?

    by docnjc

    american icon yes, but the guy was a FRICKING ALIEN you moron. Therefore, why should he be played by an american?

  • July 24, 2002, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Will Ferrell and Judd Hirsch???!

    by Numb Nuts

    I don't know about you guys but I think Judd Hirsch is getting a little long in the tooth. Besides isn't he box office poison? Will's inspired casting though! Way to go WB!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Sorry guys but you are WRONG...

    by banshee

    if you think this casting is good. Yes, they are both good actors, no arguement there. But they are not big enough. I'm sorry, but no matter how much they "bulk up" they will never have the PRESENCE that these characters are supposed to have.____You see, I agree with Grant Morrison in that these two, (along with the other JLA members,) are GODS that walk the earth. They evoke awe, granduer and a little fear when you see them. And their SIZE is a contributing factor to that.____I still say Antonio Sabatos Jr. would be a perfect Superman. Still not sure about Batman though.____Anyway, if the script is good I'm sure it will be a good film, I just won't buy these guys as Superman and Batman the same way I didn't buy Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer or George Clooney as Batman.___And to whoever said they want to see Batman running around Metropolis in broad need to cut back on your crack intake. It's starting to affect your brain.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:10 a.m. CST

    batman vs superman

    by bluetree

  • July 24, 2002, 11:11 a.m. CST

    batman vs superman

    by bluetree

    What happened to nicolas cage??

  • Better get down the gym Jude! And shop around for platforms.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Chrisian colin farrel!?

    by Batman_9

    i have to say that if you can't get christian bale to play the role he was born for then you must go with the next best thing. colin farrel should do nicely. now i have to go with everyone else here and say that i can see him for superman easier than batman...but looks can be decieving. he has proven to me that he can deliver. i never thought he'd do it though...not after playing bullseye. but i'm usually wrong. as for jude law and big blue...i...hmm. the man is an actor. no doubts there. as for the look...well i believe superman has always been a big guy. i mean, he grew up farming in kansas. he should be big. it will be interesting to see how they pull it off. as for the costumes...SPIDER-MAN taught us that no matter how cheesy you think a costume will look onscreen, we'll pay to see it if its original. or even power ranger like. go dark knight! rip that boy scout into pieces!

  • July 24, 2002, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Micheal Keaton

    by spider-ham

    Walt Flanagan, I've heard rumors of Micheal Keaton playing an older Batman in Superman Lives! and Batman Beyond. However both of those projects are long dead. He is too old to play Bats in his prime. If they ever did a Kingdom Come movie, it would be a crime if they didn't call him. BTW anyone know whats up with the Watchmen Movie?

  • July 24, 2002, 11:27 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Knowitall

    Name one other person who could pull it off better in look. Who gives a shiite about acting depth, it's a comic book character. You comic nerds hate Batman and Robin because it was so close to comic book in style. You hate what that looks like on screen. Deal with it. Comics = Cheese.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Casting Solved!

    by Law Dawg

    Perfect casting: Dolph Lungdren as Supes and Louis Gossett Jr. as the Bat --- we already know they are masters of the genre. Punisher was da bomb. 'Nuff said!

  • July 24, 2002, 11:34 a.m. CST


    by Bad Guy

    Don't you guys ever learn?? "Michael Keaton as Batman? That's a stupid idea!" Turned out great! "Hugh Jackman's too tall for Wolverine!" Turned out great! "Tobey Maguire's too skinny to be Spider-Man!" Wrong again! You guys bitch and moan that they don't cast the right actors in these movies and yet they do, over and over again. Those are both really good actors and they'll do whatever it takes to fill out those costumes. Quityerbitchin'!

  • July 24, 2002, 11:38 a.m. CST

    I'm very scared of the new cartoon in the upper left corner!

    by BillBrasky

    Mr. Knowitall, you are the man! Patrick Warburton is Superman! Absolutely!! Christian Bale would also be a superior Batman.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:42 a.m. CST

    No Fricikin Way!!!!!

    by Rohini

    I cannot believe this. I admire Jude and Colin for their acting talent but this is just wrong. In fact, if they were to be cast, they really do have it backwards. If Jude does manage to bulk up, he will have to take some serious steroids or use CGI. :D Why go to all that trouble when they can cast the right actor? The suits must be crazy. I had my money on Christian Bale for Batman. Superman should have been Orlando Bloom (Poor Orli became an actor because of Reeves, and he bulks up nicely). On the other hand, I like him too much to want him to risk the "SUPERMAN CURSE." Colin is Bullseye already. Does he want to spend the rest of his life playing comic book characters? Personally, I will have problems suspending my disbelief for him. He will always be Bullseye to me.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Dream Casting

    by Larry_Dallas

    Here ya go.....I'm here to solve the WB's problems.....for all future "Super-Hero" movies, as follows: Batman: David Boreanez, Superman: Patrick Wharbuton, Green Arrow: Matthew McCounahey, John Constantine: Tim Roth, The Joker: Willem Dafoe, Catwoman: Linda Fiorentino, Two-Face: James Woods, Scarecrow: Jeff Goldblum, Lex Luthor: Kevin Spacey, Riddler: Kevin Spacey (again), Mugging Victim #1: Freddie Prinze Jr., Green Lantern: Bruce Campbell (wow, I just noticed, his name hasn't come up on this talkback ONCE!!! Hell must have frozen over) ....anyway, I think Jude Law can pull it off with a little bulk and a good accent....I'm worrying more about the tone of the script...please, PLEASE, NO CAMP!!!! Treat the material seriously, a la Spidey, and the movie will inspire a mass ejaculation by the geek crowds on opening nite.......FLAME ON DORKS.....see ya in May, 2005....

  • July 24, 2002, 11:45 a.m. CST

    party @ my house 2/1/2019

    by durhay

    Big asteroid a-comin'. I need to make a list of movies to watch that day. Suggestions?

  • July 24, 2002, 11:54 a.m. CST

    tom welling

    by dark KNIGHT00

    wut eva happened to tom welling bein a possible role in this film as the man of steel....if ne one has heard news on that.... email me at

  • July 24, 2002, 11:59 a.m. CST

    This is a bunch of crap.

    by jokrsmile

    So far from what I've heard and read most of you backtalkers including Harry haven't picked up a comic in sometime. Granted Jude and Colin may be good actors, but they are not Superman and Batman!! Don't give me this crap about the early days of the characters, from the first moment Bruce and Clark each put on their costumes they are tall, muscular and heroic. Casting these two twigs does an injustice to the characters we know and love. This also clearly demonstrates why Marvel is kicking ass with it's movie adaptions and why DC is obviously a corporate company ruled by very short sighted assholes.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:59 a.m. CST

    I was going to talk about the casting - BUT THE HARRY GIF IS HAR

    by Tall_Boy

    HOLY FUCK!!! I get it! the flickering figures are supposed to be the Eyes Wide Shut digital "Covers" inserted by WB. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, that animation was awesome!!! oh yeah, uh, batman casting good, but clooney shoulda been kept... whoa, that really is fucked up gif... uh, I mean, Farrell should pull it off . .. I can't stop starring at it . . . Law need to start doing 'roids . . . aw, screw it - that is the funniest gif ever!!

  • July 24, 2002, noon CST


    by Merpio

    Farrel is a brilliant choice for batman but I dont know about law as superman he is small but also I have never heard him without his accent and superman sure as hell aint british. Someone earlier was right brendan fraser is as good a choice as any.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Hollywood dissing'

    by Zen Man

    I am baffled at talkbackers who seem to think that just because a guy can ACT makes him idea for the role of a character who is better known as a VISUAL impression than anything else. Go ask any 12 year old kid to DESCRIBE Superman.....Ya know what? THAT KID AINT GONNA DESCRIBE FUCKING JUDE FUCKING LAW! For God

  • July 24, 2002, 12:02 p.m. CST


    by Drath

    My God, I thought it was perfect when I misread the headline as Colin Farrel as Superman and Jude Law as Batman. Switch them, WB, SWITCH THEM NOW!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 12:08 p.m. CST

    oh yeah, memo to WB: please change it to BATMAN/SUPERMAN: WORLD&

    by Tall_Boy

    I mean BATMAN vs. SUPERMAN is just a dumb title, I think. That works for ALIENS vs. PREDATOR because the whole flick WILL just be them kicking ass...but a comic book team up of the century should have a more noble title... still, I think this flick will make assloads of cash because A) comic book movies are still hot and B) nobody has ever seen a team-up on the big screen before...

  • July 24, 2002, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Jude Law is the fucking devil

    by venger91

    What a fucking joke casting jude law as superman. first off his name is jude what the fuck supes is an icon and they are going to put a fucking pussy like law in the cape it's an insult to the shield. lets hope doomsday comes out of nowhere and hammers him in the ground like the skinny nail he is.Hey Jude FUCK YOU.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Bale and Fraser

    by riskebiz

    I agree that Christian Bale would have been a good choice for Batman, but I think Brendan Fraser is one of the few that can pull off the Superman costume and still do a picture perfect Clark Kent. If they wanted a virtual unknown, then Edoardo Ballerini from Romeo Must Die would be a good choice for Batman/Bruce Wayne. Maybe Bale or Ballerini might luck out and get to do the Batman: Year One feature.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:17 p.m. CST

    "Definitely an interesting list and bit of journalistic excavati

    by user id indeed!

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  • July 24, 2002, 12:18 p.m. CST


    by Bramton1

    I bet WB ordered Peterson not to consider Boreanoz. Anyone who followed the Buffy/Angel politics knows that the WB is trying to drive Angel into the ground (after 7th Heaven last season, opposite Alias this season). They wouldn't want Angel to get popular thanks to Boreanoz as Batman. Oh no.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:26 p.m. CST

    once more into the breach...

    by hager

    ok, my final talkback then im going to go and do something productive, like get's a though: if superman looks like the rock, then when he puts on the glasses it will be ABSURD to believe him as clark kent. law might be perfect because he DOESN'T look like a superhero (although, granted, the whole glasses as a disguise thing is lame to begin with). the point being, that maybe the director wants actors who are believable, not body types you WANKERS! and, p.s., i am an american and i could care less if they hire a brit, as long as the movie is good. an american played bond once, for christ's sake. p.p.s. and when daredevil comes out, if anyone sees it, 99% of america wont know colin farell or recogonize him. no one will see him in bruce wayne's tux and go "there's bullseye" except for us losers. so forget that nonsense.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:26 p.m. CST

    That's actually who I guessed when I read the article!

    by empyreal0

    Bing bing bing. I win a prize.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:28 p.m. CST

    a response........

    by Larry_Dallas

    DC is obviously a corporate company ruled by very short sighted assholes.......WOW!! No shit dude.....jeez, I hadn't known....listen, all u uber-geeks out there: THIS MOVIE IS NOT BEING MADE FOR U!!!!!! Get it thru your thick heads!!! This movie is being mad because it will likely be a cash-cow and spawn sequels....sure, with the success of Spidey, the studio will give a nod to the hardcore fans, but c'mon, this movie is being made for MASS CONSUMPTION....once u geeks relize that, the happier u will be......yah, we all know the specifics of Bats/Supes/Spidey.....but my mom doesn' aunt Matilda doesn't....but they will go see this because they know WHO Supes and Bats are from years of TV shows and movies....I'm not saying it's right, and yah, I wish the ULTIMATE comic movie could be made, but do u think the WB cares that the Joker DIDN'T kill Bats, all they care about is that the movie has an $80 millin dollar opening weekens......sorry to burst you bubbles.....FLAME ON DORKS....See ya in May, 2005

  • July 24, 2002, 12:29 p.m. CST


    by G0AT1178

    I can see Colin Farrel as Batman. at first I was kinda put off by it, but it only took a few seconds for me to actually realize that he'd make a pretty good Batman. On the other hand....Jude Law as Superman? CRAP!!!! This guy is not only waaaay too small, but honestly he doesn't have the chin to play Supes. Superman needs a heroic, massive jaw-line...kinda like....Bruce Campbell! Bruce shoulda been the first choice for that role.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Such wonderful news to wake up to.

    by Shabba McDoo

    I couldn't be happier with these two in their respective roles.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:34 p.m. CST

    cough cough* BULLSHIT*cough cough

    by ARGH!

    I'm not saying that Farrel and Law is bullshit, if they're cast, that's great; but I'll bet they're not. For months this site's been printing any random fan fiction that they come across. If this is true, great, but I'm not holding my breath. PS-Bale would still be the perfect Batman (and yes, I'm just writing that for no reason).

  • July 24, 2002, 12:34 p.m. CST

    What about...

    by Spark

    I know they are kinda of old, but what about... Billy Campbell for Superman and Michael Pare for Batman??? By the way, I think the actual casting may work ! My main concern is the outfits! Have anyone seen the new X-men outfit ?!?!

  • July 24, 2002, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Good Actors or not this film still should not be made

    by DyslexicHeart

    I'm not going to argue with these casting rumors, as I think this film is pointless anyway. Somethings should just be left in the comics, not everything has to be turned into a fanboy's dream of topping "Titanic"s grosses. And that's all it comes down to, the studios don't give a fuck about how these characters are represented or how each film fits into an entire legacy of entertainment. All they care about is making money, you say Colin and Jude are good actors and off-beat choices but that it could still work and I say WB is just trying to copy "Spider-man". I think as it stands now, Warner Bros. has a pretty good foundation for Superman on the television series "Smallville" and to degrade it by having multiple Superman projects also pending at the same time just proves thier ingnorant greed. And to cap this rant off, McG and Brendan Fraiser need to be shot and dumped into shark infested waters, while JJ Abrams needs to stick to his kick ass show "Alias".

  • July 24, 2002, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Respect The Law

    by nova90210

    If you watch the Talented Mr. Ripley... Matt Damon says to Jude when he puts on his glass' that he looks like Clark Kent. Then when he takes them off he calls him Superman. Enough said, they knew it 4 yrs. ago.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Carbon Monoxide Leak In The Talkback

    by Village Idiot

    Hello, Village Idiot, your friendly @$$hole comic reviewer here. I think this is going to be one of those epically long talkbacks where every one of you guys weighs in twice, but I

  • July 24, 2002, 12:44 p.m. CST


    by empyreal0

    God, the guy can act. Watch his movies, ferchrissakes. I have full confidence that he can pull this part off. The casting for Batman is just plain inspired, though. Excellent choice. As for the guy that said Tom Welling should be playing Supes in the movie, give the Smallville series three more successful seasons and it'll happen. Tom's too young to really pull off a mature Supes as of yet, but I'd be dying to see that cast in a movie in a few years.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:45 p.m. CST

    As much as I did Jude Law...

    by Sod Off Baldric

    ...and believe me he has quickly become one of my all time favorite actors, I just don't feel that he is right for the part of Superman. When I think Superman, I don't think Jude Law. Same thing with Ben Affleck and Daredevil...I have nothing against Phantoms' Ben Affleck, but when I think Daredevil Affleck doesn't come to mind. That's just my opinion. Still, though...I wish these guys the best of luck with both of these roles. They're living my dream...getting to play characters we've all grown up with. long as no one makes a Starman (Jack Knight) movie before I get my big break, I'll be happy.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:47 p.m. CST

    D'oh! That should be "As much as I DIG Jude law..."

    by Sod Off Baldric

    Not "As much as I DID Jude Law..." I've never even met the gentlemen, much less did the guy. I should qualify that by saying that I am straight. If I were gay, however...*sigh* What? Did I say that and not just think it? Uh...please stop looking at me like that.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:47 p.m. CST

    village idiot....

    by empyreal0

    name says it all

  • July 24, 2002, 12:52 p.m. CST


    by ARGH!

    This "is Superman big" debate is pretty retarded; yes, he is, and it's because of his kryptonian metabolism. It' mentioned a lot in the comics, it's the reason he doesn't need to eat. As long as he has some of that sweet yellow sun to feed off of, he's gonna' be a big dude. Oh yeah, I've only seen Farrell in Minority Report, but I'm gonna' have to go with another talk backer who said he's one of those guys that Hollywood keeps hyping as a star, but he isn't one. I thought he was pretty darn forgettable in that movie, and I've probably seen him in other movies and forgotten about him too. I'm not saying he sucks, I'm just saying I don't believe the hype (much like Chuck D, and you can't blast Chuck D, cause' he'd kick your ass!)

  • July 24, 2002, 12:53 p.m. CST

    No matter who they cast...

    by stinkyg

    ... this movie will suck and fail miserably. Even if they cast the two best possible choices in all of acting, there is no possible way in the world, under any circumstance, that this movie won't suck, and I can say that without ever seeing it.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:56 p.m. CST

    There they go again-Someone for Paul Gross.

    by Midnight Bomber

    If the producers of this film aren't going to give a damn about the characters' physicality, then why not just cut to the chase and hire Tom Cruise to play Superman? He may be short, but since, as Jude Law's choice shows, that isn't a bar to being cast in the role, he's also the world's biggest and most bankable movie star, and he at least facially resembles Superman. Honestly, I just don't know what gets into these people's heads. The only actor I've seen recently who is good enough as an actor to pull his weight and who actually also evokes the character physically, is Paul Gross. Go see at Jude Law is a fine actor. He just isn't Superman.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Samm Hamm,who wrote the first Batman

    by Jon Zuckerman

    movie(which sucked total ass thanks to Tim HACK Burton)wanted Ray Liotta to be the Joker. If Liotta doesnt get the job this time, Im gonna kil someone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 12:59 p.m. CST


    by The Colonel

    Everything about Superman is American. Fuck the fact that he's from Krypton, that's a plot device to make him "super" and nothing more. It doesn't matter what gave him his fucking powers, he stands for "truth, justice, and THE AMERICAN WAY." He was raised as an AMERICAN FARM BOY in Kansas. He's pure white bread America, and HE WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO REFLECT AMERICAN VALUES. I just feel that an American actor should play him, but it doesn't make that much of a difference, historical, or in this case, fictional accuracy has never been Hollywood's strongsuit or concern. I would not have pegged either of these guys for these roles, but I'm glad that two good actors have been chosen, at least. I do think this movie is a bad idea, and I would much prefer to see solo stories on the characters, but whatever. And to anyone saying that Brendan Fraser is a better choice as Superman, BRENDAN FRASER IS A BETTER CHOICE AS NOTHING! The guy is a DOOFUS and a cheeseball and a dork. He sucks as an actor and as a "star", and if goes anywhere NEAR the role of Superman, I'll be sick.

  • July 24, 2002, 12:59 p.m. CST


    by Jon Zuckerman

    I like these 2 choices. Colin will rule as Batman. Law should be fine as long as he puts on a bit of weight.

  • July 24, 2002, 1 p.m. CST

    Sweet Jesus

    by Jango Matt

    I can't believe it...but I actually LIKE the casting decision WB made. Never would have thought of those two on my own...but now that theyre cast, I can see it. Have to admit, I'm feeling more excited about this project now....Wolfang Peterson directing? Jude and COlin starring? It looks like theyre trying to cast actors who are good for the role, not just able to bring in the audience. Now if youll excuse me, Predator is on tv......

  • July 24, 2002, 1:03 p.m. CST


    by Astaldo

    David Bowie as Joker? nooo. he is too reserved, too quiet. one thing Joker doesn't need is a pensive, british accent. Mark Hammil, on the other hand, after hearing his voice work for the character on the animated series, and then seeing him on screen as Bluntman and Chronic's nemesis, Cocknocker, would make an awesome Joker. I mean, with these two foreigners playing our heroes, we need a yank in there some place, right?

  • July 24, 2002, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Bathound vs. Streaky the Super Cat

    by jonnyvonpoo

    I can't believe these idiot, stupid, double-stupid filmmakers aren't casting for the roles of Bathound and Streaky! Come on! What the hell are they thinking? They obvioulsy have no respect for the classic comic works. And if they leave out Beppo the Super Monkey, I am boycotting this film, which is going to be awful regardless of pet inclusion.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Isn't Batman human?

    by noiris

  • July 24, 2002, 1:14 p.m. CST

    what I meant to say...

    by noiris

    If Batman's human, and he's supposed to be able relentlessly kick ass...well then shouldn't he NOT be scrawny? When will we see Batman Knightfall. And if ever, when will we see somebody in the role that actually fits. Another peeve of mine. Why does this guy who must be quick and agile wear a 50lb rubber suit? Can't even turn his head. It's all wrong.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:16 p.m. CST

    ......ooooh you little bitch!

    by NapoleonWilson

    Having Jude Law and Colin Farrell as Superman and Batman should appeal to the gay community in all countries. However for the remaining 99.9% of movie goers this will probably look like a couple of rent boys bitch slapping each other - unappealing. Did Barry Van Dyke audition by the way?

  • July 24, 2002, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Either Tom Cruise was standing on an orange crate for "Minority

    by Christopher3

    Colin Farrell isn't really 5'11". I saw him on the "Daily Show" and he wasn't making Jon Stewart look too much like his normal midget self.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:23 p.m. CST

    P.S. Bale for Batman, Billy Crudup for Supes.

    by Christopher3

    Poor Crudup. He should have changed his name the minute he got off the bus.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:28 p.m. CST

    I don't care either way really

    by Darth Melkor

    But shouldn't Colin Farrel be Superman, and Jude Law be Batman?

  • July 24, 2002, 1:30 p.m. CST

    You're Right Harry, Superman never needed to look as though

    by Tarl_Cabot

    Jude Law? Kinda small for Superman. Christopher Reeve was around 6'3 and really looked the part; he was an unknown at the time. Why can't they just find a newcomer? Everyone wants to be a friggin actor! Go to a construction site and find supes! Let Jude Law play General Zod or some other interesting villian. Anyway, Who cares? Superman vs. Batman??? WTF? Isn't SM supposed to be really powerful??? silly idea...Green Lantern is the only DC flick I'd like to see.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I DO NOT like these choices for Bruce and Clark- weren't the

    by Blue Devil

    I'm not against this casting simply because it's sacrilegious to the fact that Batman and Superman are as American as George Washington and apple pie, but also because they just aren't right. Colin Ferrell as Bruce/Batman? I liked Christian Bale better (yes, I know he's English as well). And I'm sorry, but Jude Law is definitely too lanky for Clark. I don't care what Superman looked like in the Fleischer cartoons (and he definitley didn't look lanky in those), in the comics, Superman's always been beefy. HOWEVER, my biggest complaint with these two is their age. They just look too young! I've always pictured Batman and Superman as looking very mature and aged, well beyound their years- these two are pretty boys! I'm not sure I should be getting so excited about this though, this film will never happen. ps. Remember the days when Hollywood actually took the time to cast and didn't just drop anyone in a role? Remember the nationwide manhunt for Superman? Even Cameron had a manhunt going for Dark Angel.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Jim Caviezel? Who thought of this

    by memyself

    Seriously, the posters who want Caviezel are out of their minds. The guy's the most boring sack of protoplasm ever to grace the screen (yes, even worse than pre-Matrix Keanu). Plus, he won't make out with his hottie co-stars because of his religious beliefs. He's un-American, I tell ya!

  • July 24, 2002, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Better choice for Superman - Starvin' Marvin

    by Charnelhouse

    Sorry, but Jude Law needs to grow six inches and add about 50 lbs upstairs to be a convincing Superman. He doesn't have to look like The Hulk, but he does need to have that Charles Atlas He-Man look.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Kevin Conroy

    by IrishStephen

    I'll never understand why Kevin Conroy was never cast as a live-action Batman. Not only has no one ever done the role better, but he even looks the part!

  • July 24, 2002, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Mr. Aronofski, Mr. Miller... Please save us!!!

    by Klam Bake

    I'm tired. Just tired of it all. Someone wake me up when they get it right....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • July 24, 2002, 1:54 p.m. CST

    this sucks

    by punto

    Batman has to be at least 34 years old to be convincing when he kicks superman's ass.. A 26 y/o won't work. I see they're using a girl to play superman tho.. that's a good choice.

  • July 24, 2002, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Perfect casting...

    by Dragonfire

    Colin Farrell is going to be huge. It's amazing the great roles he's getting and how quickly he's getting them. He deserves them. He might be the biggest thing out of Ireland since U2 and Leprechauns. I think that both these actors look the part, but even if they didn't they're the kind of actors who can make themselves look the part.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:03 p.m. CST


    by AlecBings

    i'm sure this Jude Law thing is just a smokescreen for the REAL deal. ~~ seriously, though, this is pretty inspired casting. theyre both fucking great. i hope the script is good.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Un Chien Andalou

    by Dannychico

    By the way, the greatest part about that opening scene in "Chien" where the woman gets her eye cut is the initial "cut" (pun unintended) from shot to shot. You see the man approach the woman with his knife, and as he brings the blade to her eyeball, the film cuts away to a shot of the moon against the night sky, and a sharp-edged cloud slices through the moon's image. This is a beautiful visual metaphor for the eye-cutting which we are relieved to see isn't actually shown. Oh, but wait, then Bunuel and Dali throw restraint out the window, cut right back to the woman, and slice her eyeball. oh well. I am so smart. I am so smart. S-M-R-T. I mean, S-M-A-R-T.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Batty and soupy

    by Rikshaw Boy

    Jude LAw and Colin Farrel......Only one thing to say.....Rule Britannia, Britannia all the la la la la la la.....all the way!!!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Every time!!!

    by db1animal

    Why do so many of you moan at the mear mention at who's cast in films. First off both are excellent choices if they are willing to work to make this visually right, example Will Smith as Ali and Tobbey Maguire as Peter Parker, these guys I hope will be willing to endure endless training to bulk up. Secondly their height means jack it's not how big you are it's how big you appear, example Micheal Clark Duncan in Green Mile. Third two Brits playing two of America's biggest hero's, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Sorry but it is slightly ironic.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:18 p.m. CST

    How about this -- can you see Jude Law as Clark Kent ?

    by SpacePhil

    THAT I can see. So maybe this can work out.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:24 p.m. CST

    I know the perfect couple

    by Brownboy

    While Jude Law and What's his name may be ok choices. Christian Bale and Brendan Fraser are better. HOWEVER how about this. The Rock as Superman....(

  • July 24, 2002, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Warners does EVERYTHING backwards.

    by JonQuixote

    I've heard worse choices, but I've heard better. Seriously, I doubt this is anything more than rumor. Still, the franchises are heading in the wrong direction; they need to be re-established, and THEN when the team-ups hit, it'd be huge. BATMAN YEAR ONE, followed by a revamped SUPERMAN based on MAN OF STEEL. Then, a sequel apiece. Then the team-up. After the WORLD'S FINEST movie, the solo efforts are going to seem like a let down. *** Anyways, if they do persist in walking this route, I've been saying that Colin Farrel is the best choice for Superman since last summer, where he supplanted my choice of Luke Wilson (still #2 with a bullet). And I'm really surprised that Mark Ruffalo hasn't been mentioned for Batman; he's got that Brando thing going on which would be perfect! Although since Reign of Fire, I have to admit that I've warmed to the idea of Christian Bale. The movie sucked, but he did tormented aristocat pretty good.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Fuck Wolfgang Petersen

    by Bronzewood

    What a total fuck! Why doesn't he just cast fucking Joel Shumaker as Batman and Freddie( Everyone loves getting a free rip on me) Prince Jr. as Superman. Colin Farell's a decent actor, I have some respect for him after Minority Report, but then I remembered American Outlaws and thought fuck him. Jude Law is a big pussy and shouldn't act another fucking day. If he's playing Superman can I play Lex Luthor, because I can shave my head and ass and still act better than that fuck. Fuck Wolfgang Peterson and this dumb ass movie. Way to go D.C. oh I mean parent company Warner on killer the franchise before it can even get started again. I will not see this homisexual action adventure. Fuck the WB Wolfgang and his numb nut choices for actors!

  • July 24, 2002, 2:34 p.m. CST

    This is coming together soooooooo nicely....

    by Virgil Sollozzo

    Great fucking casting, and as Harry pointed out , Clark Kent could be 90 pounds, as long as he came from Krypton and is powered by our Yellow sun, he'd beat all of our asses. Second, you really dont think Jude Law is going to bulk up? Of course he is. This one doesnt go before cameras for about half a year, plenty of time, look at what Maguire did. And both these guys have the acting chops, thank god. It'll wind up a lot better than it would ve with any of youre crappy fanboy faves (Vin Diesel Bruce Campbell) in lead roles. And I have said it before and will say it again - ALAN CUMMING IS JOKER. Colin and his age differences is about right for Batman/Joker.Brittany Murphy IS Harley. Billy Zane is Luthor.Looks good bald, and can be a cocky sonofabitch. But if he has to be older, go with spacey. I cant fucking wait for this.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Seriously, Brendan Fraser? WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?!

    by The Colonel

  • July 24, 2002, 2:39 p.m. CST

    A little old now, but...

    by CastingMan

    Okay. Let me preface this by saying I am not a "Bruce for everything" kind of geek, but about 3 years ago, even Wizard magazine picked Bruce Campbell as a perfect choice for Superman. He has the look, can certainly handle the somewhat geeky Clark Kent role, and campy enough for Supes. And Billy Zane as Bats. He has the arrogance and the "I'm deadlier than you could know" attitude going on.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by The Colonel

    All of you morons who think Fraser should play Superman are total idiots. The guy SUCKS. His eyes are WAY TOO FAR APART, and he's an unfunny goofball. His movies are TERRIBLE.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Uh, didn

    by Drcool975

    No offense but can

  • July 24, 2002, 2:53 p.m. CST

    2 Americans

    by Brownboy

    Big Bird (Batman - Already a bird) and Peewee Herman (Superman) Oh by the way Brendan Fraser is Canadian, so if you want an American to play the role, you'll have to invade Canada for him. While you're at it please take out Celine Dion...thanks....

  • July 24, 2002, 2:54 p.m. CST

    TOO YOUNG!! Crap casting

    by Red collar

    Niether can do an american accent properly, they're too small, AND WAY TOO YOUNG.

  • July 24, 2002, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Message for Logo Lou...

    by Zen Man

    How so? The Blade movie had pretty much NOTHING to do with the comic book Blade except for name. Although, now, the comic Blade has been made more like the movie (thankfully, because Tomb of Dracula was good, but not great-except Gene Colan's artwork- and Blade wasn't even the best part of it). You say Jude Law doesn't fit the visual descripiction of the comic supes, well neither does Wesley as Blade, other than he's black. If they followed the comics, Blade would have had that brown drapey outfit and the yellow-green goggles. And story wise they would have had to have the whole vampire twin merging story Blade had. Logo Lou, you takes me too literally my man. My statement about Goyer and Snipes and their vision for Blade meant simply that they understood what the character of Blade was and ultimatley could be on film.. Blade was such a low-key character that whatever changes they made in the story of the film version of Blade would have gone largely unnoticed right? But never once did they abandon what Blade is at the visual core; an imposing vampire hybrid loaded with weapons who happens to be black. Nobody gives a shit if Blade

  • July 24, 2002, 2:57 p.m. CST

    The facts are ...

    by NapoleonWilson

    Jude Law is an average actor totally unsuitable for a superhero role (maybe suitable for a gay prancing baddie) ..and Colin 'Let someone else carry the movie' Farrell is a bland Irish actor whose accent is all over the road. Get ready for more prominent cod-pieces and a shite SHITE film. Here's hoping this is all bollocks.

  • July 24, 2002, 3:06 p.m. CST

    MISS CROSS: My God, what happened to your nose? MAX: I got

    by DuanePenn

    To those who challenge Jude Law's ability to play Superman, you can kiss my a** twice on both cheeks. Jude Law is an incredibly powerful performer, with the ability to seamlessly transform into any character he plays. Just take a look at Ripley, AI, and Perdition- three completely different characters that he played brilliantly! Tobey Maguire usually played characters that needed a few doses of anti-depressant, and look how he blew audiences away with his portrayal of Spider-Man! And Law is ten times the actor Maguire could ever be, you bastards. Now, on to the size issue...WHO GIVES A F**K WHAT LAW LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW?!?!?! With the help of trainers, etc. he will be able to physically fit the "set" image of Superman just like Norton did in American History X or Maguire in Spider-Man. The "size" issue is Law's only set-back, and a VERY CURABLE set-back at that. Anyone who questions Law's abilities probably also regards "You've Got Mail" as the finest film of our time.

  • July 24, 2002, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Batman & Superman

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    Batman = David Boreanaz Superman = Christian Bale or Brendan Frasier

  • July 24, 2002, 3:12 p.m. CST

    pic of jude law in costume

    by booju

    here you go...the boy does need to beef up...

  • July 24, 2002, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Height problems

    by bjmc1975

    The only problem with casting Michael Keaton as Batman was casting Kim Basinger (who's, what, 5'8"?)as Vicki Vale. All they have to do to avoid any problems here is cast short women in the female roles. Or do the box/trench thing made famous in "Scott of the Sahara."

  • July 24, 2002, 3:18 p.m. CST

    As much as I'd love it to work...

    by Halloween68

    Jude Law's a fine actor, but as many, many, many others have pointed out, he's way too scrawny. For cripe sakes, he's only 145 lbs. He lokes more like Peter Pan than Superman. Super powers or not, a good stiff wind would whip his ass to the Switzerland right through a funk of yellow sun. Farrel's a decent choice for Batman I guess, although I can't offhand remember what he looks like. Are these guys going for the superkids movie or something? Why are they casting our heroes so young and less dangerous looking?

  • July 24, 2002, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Britons as Americans and the other way around!

    by Kielland

    Hey Drcool975, they just cast a 13 year old American kid to play Peter Pan and I bet they're not even going to try to remove his accent.

  • July 24, 2002, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Morons Unite!!!

    by jokrsmile

    To all of the people including Harry who think an actor who is clearly NOT phyisically up to the part of Superman is ok...You're out of your fucking minds!! One clown had commented that Tobey McGuire "bulked up" for the role of Spider-Man and pulled it off. So in his mind Jude Law should be able to do the same. What a load of bullshit!! Of course Tobey pulled it off!! First he looks the part of Peter Parker. Second Spider-Man is only about 5'8" and around 170lbs in the comic or less!! I don't care how good an actor Law is...HE ISN'T SUPERMAN. Harry's little comment that Superman could be 90 lbs and kick ass is true, but HE'S NOT!!! He's 6'4" 225 lbs and an extreme ass kicker. That's a big part of the mystic that is Superman!! Jude Law will never be able to pull off the part!! Collen Farell is just as bad!! These casting choices suck bigtime!!

  • July 24, 2002, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Superman - An American Icon?

    by Billy Talent

    I'm no expert on comics lore, but I believe his creator was a Canadian.

  • July 24, 2002, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Kate Moss as Lois Lane

    by sundown

    only way it could work...heh heh

  • July 24, 2002, 3:48 p.m. CST

    bitch whine grizzle

    by Roosterbooster

    This is wonderful! Two actors instead of steroid-bloated meatheads. You whiners - ever hear of these places called "gyms"? or even prosthetic muscles? Jude Law is great but I must admit Christian Bale would have been even better as Supes and Jude as Batman. And they should keep their English accents. The only problem is that if there's a buffed-ip Jude Law walking around no woman is ever going to want to sleep with me ever again.

  • July 24, 2002, 3:52 p.m. CST


    by Drcool975

    It doesn't matter if Superman's creator was a Burmese grocer, he's still an American Icon.

  • July 24, 2002, 3:56 p.m. CST

    the muscles

    by punto

  • July 24, 2002, 4 p.m. CST

    the muscles

    by punto

    blah. superman is big because all the energy from the sun goes to his muscles. The fact that he's kryptonian means he doesn't have to go to the gym to get big (and not that he doesn't need muscles.. that's where the strength comes from) That's my theory.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Jude Law - Kent Yes, Supes No...

    by badboymason

    Mmm...Superman should be an imposing, authoritarian, presence....Clooney/Norton/Pitt could pull it off. Im sure Jude Law will do OK, but he will not be Superman - American Icon, the Worlds Greatest Hero...

  • July 24, 2002, 4:01 p.m. CST

    these guys suck!!!!!!!

    by magic as

    anyone who thinks that these guys are right for the role of Batman and Superman has got be be a BIG JACKASS!!!!! THEY SUCK!!!!!!!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 4:01 p.m. CST

    My submission for the "Perfect Joker" is...

    by Reverend Abuse

    ...Alan Cumming! Watch him in Spy Kids, or Cabaret (where he has the right skin color for the job) and TELL me he wouldn't make a bad ass Joker! JUST TELL ME!! Ya' lousy bums...

  • July 24, 2002, 4:04 p.m. CST

    "Why the long face, superman?"

    by eyeshavemiles

    Remember when Nick Cage was going to be Superman? Let's all just take a moment to thank (insert higher power you worship) that didn't happen. Now, with that in mind, Jude Law's not so bad. I'm optimistic...I was expecting something like Keanu Reeves and a Wayans brother.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by Red collar

    The creator of superman may have been canadian but Superman's fight for "Truth, justice, and (get this) THE AMERICAN WAY" I too, am tired of brits and the like doing really bad american accents. I'm sure every british/Irish person is sick of hearing there accents mangled. Anthony Hopkins is one of the best actors around and can't get the accent right. Mike myers has a thick canadian accent in every movie. Mel Gibson still sounds fake. I'm sure a few Irish people were upset with Chris O'Donell In "circle of friends." As upset as I was at Minnie Driver's horrible Chicago accent in return to me. Cast Americans as Americans unless the actor can figure out an american accent.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:12 p.m. CST

    They may be pretty boys, but boy, these fellows can act!

    by Lenny Nero

    Anyone denying Jude Law's power in Talented Mr. Ripley has another thing coming.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Fuck that noise, Jack.

    by patient37

    The day I believe something before it comes out in a press release is the day I slit my wrists and stick 'em in some hot water. I'm sure this'll turn out to be as truthful as the "gradual Hulking out" that our dear buddies in the AICN scooping mill reported on oh so long ago. And even if it isn't bullshit, the WB is would be making a huge mistake. Weird casting can work with Batman, sure---but Superman's physique is a huge part of the character. While I dig Law in every way a heterosexual man can, he's simply average-lookin. He can pack on as much muscle as he likes, and he'll still be average-lookin. While he's not as bad as Nicholas Cage, he's still a bad choice.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:22 p.m. CST


    by nomihs

    As good as both of these choices are, I really would have to agree with anyone who says that BOTH of these chars. should be played by AMERICANS. If you have read the talkbacks down to me, then you know what I am talking about. If not, read em. These are AMERICAN icons, derived from AMERICAN comic books. Nobody but a red blooded American should put either one of those suits on. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Freddy Prinze Jr. and Heath Ledger!

    by KONG33

    Studios can't choose objectively, it seems. They should've picked people who outside of the film everyone could agree 'There's Superman.' or 'That's Batman.'. Like we will with Alan Cumming as NightCrawler in X-2.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Superman -A Part of the Canadian Heritage

    by Billy Talent

    It's true. Many Canadians consider Superman a canuck. That's why he's such a good guy. I suggest either Bruce Greenwood or Callum Keith Rennie as Superman, with Atom Egoyan directing!

  • July 24, 2002, 4:40 p.m. CST

    It would be so easy to dismiss most of these rants...

    by Nordling

    but they're doing such a fine job for themselves. Comic Book Guys, all a yous.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:46 p.m. CST

    superheros = homoeroticism

    by frenchie

    Oh and this TB = closet cases galore.

  • July 24, 2002, 4:48 p.m. CST

    The perfect casting would have been...

    by brokentusk

    Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman - he just has the right eyes and is so brooding - he would have been perfect... and then Colin Farell as Clark Kent/Superman - perfect. But you know what... this casting is very impressive, different, but very impressive - can't wait to see how this turns out...

  • July 24, 2002, 4:54 p.m. CST

    I don't see why we don't just get the REAL Batman and Su

    by user id indeed!

    What? They... huh? They aren't? Really? Wow. Well, nevermind then.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Law is a pussy and both are BRITS!

    by molded

    I don't care if they let their dear portly Bridget Jones be played by a scrawny Texan, no foreigners should play AMERICAN ICONS. Unless the Bond producers want George Clooney to take over for Pierce Brosnan, then let's keep our icons American. Also, Jude Law is a scrawny pussy who probably wouldn't want to give up the cigarettes to train. I disagree with the writer at AICN that Supe doesn't need muscles. Sorry, the contemporary audience is not going to buy a Superman from 1946. Why the hell don't they just get non-stars like Hugh Jackman was?

  • July 24, 2002, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Jude Law is a great choice, because.....

    by Steven Credible

    How can you build muscle if you're so strong, that even cars offer little resistance when weight training? Shouldn't Superman be skin and bones?

  • July 24, 2002, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Save the Bale(s)

    by Sci_Fi_Wasabe

    They missed the boat with Bale as Bruce Wayne. Notice I said Wayne and not Batman. Under whatever kind of suit they end up throwing the actor in, any number of intense actors can play the Bat. Colin's a good actor, but he doesn't look like the blue blood aristocrat Wayne was supposed to be. Bale does, period. (For that record, neither did Keaton or Clooney). No comment on Law, as the only thing I've seen him in was A.I. (thought he was ok, but I didn't think "Hey, that guy would be a great Superman).

  • July 24, 2002, 5:16 p.m. CST

    I don't understand the premise of this movie

    by jollysleeve

    I know this is probably based on some kind of comic book series which I know nothing about, but I honestly can't fathom how a Superman/Batman matchup is in any way plausible. When they say "VERSUS" am I correct in assuming we're talking actual fighting here? Or does that mean we'll be treated to 55 minutes of domestic squabbling before the two caped guys begrudgingly put aside their differences and team-up to rid the world of some evil CGI space alien.............. ........... There is literally nothing that Batman could do to Superman that would even make the big guy wince, let alone do any damage. Meanwhile if Superman so much as gave the Dark Knight a "noogie," his head would atomize. And don't give me that argument of "Well, if Batman had Kryptonite, that would be another story!" Can you imagine how lame that movie would be--Batman carrying a hunk of Kryptonite around with him everywhere like some scared little girlie-man village peasant trying to ward off a vampire.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:30 p.m. CST

    >>Many Canadians consider Superman a canuck.<<

    by Drcool975

    And many Canadians consider Hockey on a Friday night to be legitimate substitute for

  • July 24, 2002, 5:30 p.m. CST


    by jollysleeve

    I love how you guys are all offended that they&#39;re casting an English actor to play an American superhero. From your reactions you&#39;d think they were considering Adolph Hitler for a B&#39;nai Brith award.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:32 p.m. CST

    you xenophobic fuckrags - its a MOVIE! PRETEND! IMAGINATION!

    by Tall_Boy

    "Americans playing American icons" oh shut the fuck up, please? Look: Superman says he&#39;s from krypton/ kansas. Law can lose his accent, same with Colin. Its not that fucking hard. you see the characters on screen, not what fucking nation they people who were playing them happened to be born in! Jesus fucking christ. &#39;sides, how is the bat, he of toturned lonely soul crying out for vengance against the urban decay that is modern living, an American icon, anyway? sheesh.

  • July 24, 2002, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Proud Geek I be

    by Zen Man

    I don&#39;t know whether to be proud that I am not like Jollysleeve (because he or she knows nothing about Batman/Superman in their comic

  • July 24, 2002, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Re: Zen man

    by jollysleeve

    Mr. Sleeve, here........ ....... How in God&#39;s name did Batman ever manage to beat Superman in a fight? (I assume it&#39;s a long and involved tale. That&#39;s okay. I&#39;ve got nowhere to go.) And after those victories, what prevented Superman from feeling totally imasculated and in retaliation, simply squashing Batman into the pavement like a bug? Why the hell were they even fighting in the first place?

  • July 24, 2002, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Who gives a shit? The movie&#39;s gonna suck anyway

    by magic_ninja

    I just think it&#39;s really sad that Mask of the Phantasm by itself is more of a Batman movie than any of the big budget hollywood shitfests.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Dude.....are we watching the same Fleischer cartoons ?

    by RobinP

    I have a full set of them right here, and saying that Superman ISN&#39;T bulked up is not exactly 100% accurate. He was drawn from day #1 to look like a circus strongman wearing a trapeze artist&#39;s costume. Jude Law is way too skinny and scrawny to play a credible Superman. Hell, they may as well have gotten Iggy Pop (who, incidentally, would make a very cool "Joker". Warner execs take heed.)

  • July 24, 2002, 6:10 p.m. CST


    by Red collar

    I&#39;ll repeat my arguement. Foreigners can&#39;t do an american accent properly. Also, Jackman, did not sound canadien. he sounded like an Australian, pretending to do an American accent. I&#39;ve heard Farrel and Law do American accents and neither can. Maybe they can trick English/Irish/australian people that they sound american but they don&#39;t. P>S> Never call an Irishman a Brit! Like calling a cat a dog.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:11 p.m. CST


    by JonQuixote

    The movies are best served by unknowns. Cast John Travolta, or Jude Law, or one of the countless other suggestions and it immediately becomes about how So&So pulls off Superman, rather than about Superman himself. Tobey Maguire did a kick ass job as Peter Parker/Spider-Man, but his presence on screen still brought with it a modicum of detachment as the audience was watching Tobey play Peter, rather than simply watching Peter. Conversely, when the then-unknown Hugh Jackman slipped into flannel and adamantium, all I could do was marvel at how cool Wolverine looked on the screen. The studio would be far better served to just find unknowns, trained actors who look the part but bring no preconcieved baggage to the part.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:39 p.m. CST

    "Jude Law has already played a man of steel once in A.I., but so

    by BEARison Ford

    wow harry sure is a talented writer.

  • July 24, 2002, 6:39 p.m. CST


    by kinky1


  • July 24, 2002, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Man oh Man, you people need to get a grip. this is good news...

    by stuftseveredhead

    Jude Law and Colin Farrel are both accomplished actors. a good friend of mine summed up Jude law best after seeing him in road to perdition. "just give him any kind of role and he makes something out of it" I agree. and Farrell? look how great he plays the honest cop with a grisly and dark side to him in Minority Report. Perfect for the Dark Knight. What excites me the most is that Peterson is bothering to cast real actors. he&#39;s taking the characters seriously. I think just from the casting this shows Peterson may be able to pull this off. In fact, it reminds me of when Donner did Superman. He&#39;s a studio director not famous for being stylized but making competent films, just like when Donner did superman. I have hopes that this may actually work. Also, keep in mind that no one was happy with Keaton as a choice for Batman and if you look at the screen tests of Reeve as Superman, he was as scrawny as Law is. Donner even says in the commentary,that what made Superman work was that Chris Reeve was a great actor who made you believe even BEFORE HE PUT ON THE COSTUME OR BULKED UP.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Not True

    by SLilley3

    Straight from Warner Bros. itself Coming Attractions has been told that neither Jude Law nor Colin Farrell have been cast in Batman vs. Superman. Auditions continue to take place and more actors will be seen next week. While Farrell and Law are in the running, they have not been signed. They are being considered and nothing more. [Source: Warner Bros.] This was put up on Coming Attractions this afternoon.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:08 p.m. CST

    An open note to Wolfgang Peterson and Andrew Kevin Walker

    by inkymae

    Please bother to rent the Paul Dini "Worlds finest" animated movie about Batman and Superman. That movie nailed the dynamics between those characters perfectly. Hell, I&#39;d be more than happy with a live action adaptation of that animated film shot by shot and I&#39;m betting that almost everyone else would too.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:09 p.m. CST


    by SLilley3

    Straight from Warner Bros. itself Coming Attractions has been told that neither Jude Law nor Colin Farrell have been cast in Batman vs. Superman. Auditions continue to take place and more actors will be seen next week. While Farrell and Law are in the running, they have not been signed. They are being considered and nothing more. [Source: Warner Bros.] That was put up on Coming Attractions this afternoon.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Christian Bale and Brendan Fraser

    by inkymae

    Bale is the dreamchoice for batman. he&#39;s got the build the look and would be great at both brooding in the costume and playing a rich playboy. on the other hand, Fraser can do drama (gods and monsters) has the build and the chin and the height for Superman and he has already proven himself more than capable at playing nerds and dorks like clark kent (any of his costumed material) If they havent signed Law and Farrell (which doenst necessarily bother me by the way) I hope they will consider Fraser and Bale. To me they seem as perfect as Patrick Stewart as Professor X.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:17 p.m. CST

    by Fozzier

    I was hoping for Johnny Depp as Batman and Billy Crudup as Superman. As much as I&#39;d like to have an optimistic attitude, Jude Law does not strike me as Superman and I can&#39;t stop thinking of Colin Farrell in that piece of shit American Outlaws. btw, David Bowie in anything would be entertaining.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:18 p.m. CST


    by supermanfanfor20

    - Russell Crowe as Superman who looks like the Alex Ross Superman and with some exercise and padding in the suit, the suit is dark blue almost black with a bright red cape and bright red boots with the bright red and yellow but much larger S-shield and no trunks, he will have a large silver belt or possibly red like the original Batman. - Batman will be played by Billy Zane who will exercise some more also and have padding on his suit. The suit will not be rubber looking, it will be bullet proof but because of a plasma netting underneath. The suit will consist of the typical ensamble but with dark gray almost black body suit, black trunks with black boots, black cape with black mask. He will have a large black bat on his chest without the yellow oval around it. The belt will be silver and big like in the comics. - William Defoe will be the Joker, he will look like the Alex Ross Joker with dark green hair and pale face but glossy looking. - Ed Harris will be Lex Luther. - The film will be rather dark and there will be nothing goofy whatsoever about the characters, it will be rather dramatic and will alot of action.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:26 p.m. CST

    british superman, irish batman, and german director

    by btm

    the accents could be interesting.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:33 p.m. CST

    This report is a FALSE rumor.

    by Talking_Machine

    Man, and you seemed so sure Harry. Coming Attractions reports..."Straight from Warner Bros. itself Coming Attractions has been told that neither Jude Law nor Colin Farrell have been cast in Batman vs. Superman. Auditions continue to take place and more actors will be seen next week. While Farrell and Law are in the running, they have not been signed. They are being considered and nothing more." First the very old news of a "female Hulk" and now this. Better check your sources at Warner. I have to say...I just don&#39;t see Jude Law agreeing to star in this film. Outside of miscasting, I think the guy is better actor than this super hero fare. Personally, I&#39;d prefer unknowns in the roles (I could care less what nationality they are.) And, it wouldn&#39;t hurt if they actually looked the part. The kid on Smallville looks more like Superman than anyone mentioned so far. Go that kind of route.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:33 p.m. CST

    re:devil cat

    by kinky1


  • July 24, 2002, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Hugh Jackman & Russell Crowe accents in their characters.

    by supermanfanfor20

    Russell Crowe will play Clark Kent in the same fashion he played Jeffrey Wiggand on "The Insider" and Superman in the fashion of "The Gladiator" and Hugh Jackman will sound a bit like he did in the X-men but both of their accents will be undetectable. As Batman he will be as dark and obsessive as Wolverine but even edgier. As the millionare Bruce Wayne he will be a typical person, nothing out of the ordinary but it will have the normal part missing from the comics. He will cry because he dwells in his parents death and that is what his life is so he will cry. Superman will cry as well.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:56 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s called acting

    by Billy Talent

    Straight actors play gay. Gay actors play straight. Americans play Shakespeare. Brits play Arthur Miller. Many Americans have European ancestors. Because comic books don&#39;t talk, it&#39;s difficult to say for certain what the characters sound like. This is a ridiculous argument.

  • July 24, 2002, 7:57 p.m. CST

    WILL SMITH as Superman and MARTIN LAWRENCE as Batman

    by Lightseed

    hehe... just kidding.

  • July 24, 2002, 8:08 p.m. CST

    worst casting ever

    by SvenOleThorson

    In Hollywood, someone can be found that looks like either character and can act.Their are a million people trying to get work there.Get someone that has at least some resemblance to the characters. Jude Law is as far away from Superman as forrest Gump is from Spock.I don&#39;t know what the Batman guy looks like, but Jude Law is tall and scrawny.Will he speak with his British accent-"My space ship crashed in England and I lived there for twenty years-I just moved to Metropolis last week".Fucking terrible.

  • July 24, 2002, 8:09 p.m. CST


    by supermanfanfor20

    -Russell Crowe will not tell jokes or be smiley all of the time. -Hugh Jackman will not tell jokes either or smile. -Lois Lane will be played by Jennifer Connelly. -Vicky Vale will not be in the movie. -Lana Lane will not be in the movie either. -Tom Selleck will play John Kent, Martha Kent will be played by Sally Field. -Jor-El is the only of Superman&#39;s biological parents appearing in the movie, he will be played also by Christopher Reeve as a guest and they will manage not to show the wheelchair. -Perry White will be in the movie and he will be played by Al Pacino who already appeared in a similar role in "The Insider". -Jimmy Olsen will also appear and it will be played by Tobey MacGuire. -Jean Paul Valley will be appearing and he will be played by Guy Pearce with blonde hair. -Selina Kyle will appear and she will be played by Connie Nielsen who played Lucilla in "The Gladiator."

  • July 24, 2002, 8:15 p.m. CST

    WTG Harry

    by Nomak

    "but AICN has got ya the really short list... um, actually who got the parts." 10 hours later

  • July 24, 2002, 8:17 p.m. CST

    WTG Harry2

    by Nomak

    We find out "I just got an email from someone at Warner Brothers clarifying things and providing a little more fuel to the overall fire. The discussion on our message boards has been stellar about the Batman/Superman flick which will ultimately mean more profile for the film... which is good. Here&#39;s your update: "Harry Knowles is wrong. The roles have NOT been cast yet. They are still seeing other actors in casting next week. Jude Law and Colin Farrell are very definitely in the running but nothing has been locked yet." Way to break the story!!!!

  • July 24, 2002, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Perry White = R. Lee Ermey

    by Billy Talent

  • July 24, 2002, 8:42 p.m. CST


    by Weasel a fairly accomplished actor and I&#39;ve enjoyed him in any number of films, but I do have a problem with him as Lex Luthor. Mr. Zane is so very gay he would make my flesh crawl in a Superman movie. Can you imagine him, at the climax of the film, staring at Supes as if he wants to lick him all over like an ice cream cone and saying, "Hmmm. I loathe you, Superman, but perhaps we can have one final drink together before I destroy you utterly. Why don&#39;t you fly in here and fix yourself a cold one while I put on my silk pajamas you hunky Man of Tomorrow you!!" No. Sorry.

  • July 24, 2002, 8:45 p.m. CST

    american actors

    by canuck1

    Superman is a canadian invention; quit worrying about having american actors

  • July 24, 2002, 8:50 p.m. CST

    BillyTalent, Superman&#39;s creatorS were an American and a Cana

    by KingKrypton

    Jerry Siegel (the writer of the duo) was born and bred in Ohio. Joe Shuster was a Toronto native who moved to Ohio and became Siegel&#39;s pal in high school. So yes, Superman IS an AMERICAN icon. That ONE of his creators was Canadian (the other was an American) doesn&#39;t change this. As for Law and Farrell being smong the candidates for Superman and Batman...I can take &#39;em or leave &#39;em (I do wonder why they were announced as being officially cast, though). I&#39;d rather see Ron Eldard don the red and blue and Dylan McDermott sport the gray and blue, myself. And please, please, please, get Jon Peters, McG, and JJ Abrams off the SUPERMAN solo project. Let either Petersen or (better yet) Nicholas Meyer take over SUPERMAN with Dick Donner as the supervising producer. At least the solo Batman projects have some promise to them. The SUPERMAN movie needs to be drastically overhauled, because Peters and McG are not the right people to do it, and Abrams doesn&#39;t have the chops to pull this off.

  • July 24, 2002, 8:58 p.m. CST


    by Red collar

    I&#39;ve already said this but TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY, is Superman&#39;s tag-line, it&#39;s part of the whole arguement between batman and Superdude. Anyway i&#39;d want Danny Pintauro from "WHo&#39;s the Boss?" as Batman. And the Scott baio as Superman. But really really, most non American actors can not pull off the friggin&#39; american accent but that&#39;s a topic for another subject or some shit like that, whatever I no likey talk no more. Me go to American Bar and beat somebody up.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:01 p.m. CST


    by sup3rm@n

    In all ways George Clooney was a horrible Batman, think of how much of a great Superman he would be. Since he was able 2 put a smile on The Dark Knight, Y can he not make the son of Jor El the ultimate superhero. I do not might Petersons&#39; work at all, but is he right 4 this project, now i cannot wait 4 Darren Arnofsky&#39;s take on Batman, but Colin Ferrel, he was good in Tigerland, but a great &#39;Year:One Batman&#39; would be....David Boreanz, even 4 this project.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:06 p.m. CST


    by Beyonder

    Somebody feed these guys!

  • July 24, 2002, 9:10 p.m. CST

    A brit as Superman and an irishman as Batman? I don&#39;t think

    by trankscuzzball

    You mean to tell me there are no capable actors left in the United States to handle these roles? This casting is so wrong, it&#39;s pathetic.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Superman is a co-creation of a Canadian and American

    by trankscuzzball

    I would much rather see a Canadian actor take the role of Superman than a brit, actually.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:15 p.m. CST

    They&#39;ll workout the Physicality you Knuckle Heads! But if yo

    by flimsnake

    ... Antoni Sabato Jr., and meant it You are Fucked! Sorry, allegedly, I think you are Fucked! Whoever the actors they choose will have some substance, some deep emotional life, and that leaves a few more people off the list as well. Antonio Sabato Jr. What&#39;re you thinking??? And BTW, it may be Law and Farrell, and it may not, but there are names on that list that would really get people pissed. And the EW list is a bit off. Where&#39;d they get that?

  • July 24, 2002, 9:17 p.m. CST


    by deepblue

    Yah, I suppose a foreigner wouldn&#39;t be able to master the arrogance and conceit of an American. Or the blank stare.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:17 p.m. CST

    concerning the animated GIF of Harry at the top left of the scre

    by Demolition Man

    "That&#39;s not a joke....that&#39;s a severe behavioral disorder."

  • July 24, 2002, 9:20 p.m. CST


    by Demolition Man

    ..and being American,I can understand your inherent jealousy.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Coming Attractions says casting is RUMOR

    by cookiepuss

    Straight from Warner Bros. itself Coming Attractions has been told that neither Jude Law nor Colin Farrell have been cast in Batman vs. Superman. Auditions continue to take place and more actors will be seen next week. While Farrell and Law are in the running, they have not been signed. They are being considered and nothing more.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:48 p.m. CST


    by Coolius_Montero


  • July 24, 2002, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by CaptDanielRoe

    Why am I the only one who thinks this? He looks the part, he has that all-American boy quality yet also that from-another-planet quality. Everyone who plays Superman should be named Reeve or Reeves. That is all.

  • July 24, 2002, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Remember him...

    by Kal-El, The MOS

    DEAN CAIN. Any dark actor can play Batman, but Cain pulled off the cheesy character of Superman with no problem (perhaps not even making him cheesy). Superman is my favorite hero ever, the only comic that I buy. I do, however, agree with everyone who said "look at all of the other actors who were complained about before like Maguire and Keaton. Look at how well they did. WB has learned from Batman and Robin (Smallville proved that), so let&#39;s see what happens.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:07 p.m. CST


    by Wydok

    Ok, first ... ChestRockwell: In The Dark Knight Returns story Frank Miller did, Batman was able to give Superman a run for his money by having Kryptonite in his posession. Superman also got nuked, but I forgot who was responsible for that in the story. --------------------- As for Colin and Jude: I thought it would make sense the other way round, but it&#39;s cool either way. I have faith Jude will bulk up enough. If the test shots look bad, they&#39;ll just get someone else. There are TWO franchises at stake with this movie. At least it isn&#39;t Nic Cage as Superman. Now that would have sucked. --------------------- As for the actors not being American: who cares, really? As long as they can pull off American accents. Besides, have you heard ANYONE play Superman with a midwest (KANSAS!) accent. You&#39;d think they should since that is where he grew up. :-P Saying they must be American because the characters are American icons stinks of too much nationalism.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:37 p.m. CST

    casting couch.

    by whomod

    damn! Typical island of annoying fanboys here. What else to expect from Aint-it-cool (it aint by the way). How about I make all you virgins happy by just handing Warner a Neal Adams Batman comic and a Curt Swan Superman book, cut out the characters carefully and have some scmoe photograph them as I make them dance around a cutout background?? I&#39;m sure that would be everyones ideal movie. Retards. Everyone here is calling jude Law &#39;scrawny" because he doesn&#39;t look like a bloody WWF wrestler. Well, guess what?? WWF wrestlers are good for shagging their cousins and growing Kentucky waterfalls not to mention groping other hilbilly ass but acting isn&#39;t their forte. And Chris Reeve was the "perfect" Superman?? anyone have the fookin DVD?? When he was cast, he was even skinnier than Jude Law!!!! Stupid bunch of ignorant whiners on this message board. That&#39;s why I rarely come down here to this abysmal dungeon. A shame I had to click the link some poster left at the DC comics boards. I&#39;m all for Jude Law as Superman, Batman, The Joker or whoever he wants to play because he&#39;s a superb actor. And convincing an audience is what good actors do. Morons.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:41 p.m. CST

    This is why filamkers make films and you guys are on a talkback.

    by Joey Stylez

    You know, there may be other actors out there more physically suited for the roles of Batman and Superman(I agree that Boreanz would make a very good Bats)but there&#39;s no question in my mind that Law and Farrell can play these roles. Let&#39;s get something straight right now...comic characters look much different when you see them IN PERSON! They&#39;re supposed to look big in the comics because it&#39;s not real. Why do you think Michael Clark Duncan was tapped to play Kingpin? He&#39;s the only guy around with the acting ability and the physical stature to convincingly play the role. Some idiot actually said King Kong Bundy should be Kingpin. Wake the fuck up! He&#39;s a wrestler not an actor (MARRIED WITH CHILDREN doesn&#39;t count). Realize, my fellow fanboys, that it doesn&#39;t take much to work out and gain a bulkier build. Reeve was skinny as hell when he landed the part, the screen tests on the DVD prove that. He spent months working out and getting bigger. Even in the finished film he doesn&#39;t look huge, just nicely built. Big enough to play Superman. Jude Law can do this. Patrick Warbuton can&#39;t. Brendan Frasier can&#39;t. Nic Cage can&#39;t. As for Colin playing the Dark Knight, DAMN FUCKING SKIMPY! Actually, he can play either role. Farrell kicked ass in MINORITY REPORT. He will make an excellent Batman, light years better than Val(overrated)Kilmer. Be thankful that a truly talented filmaker is casting two truly talented actors to play these roles. So for the love of Obi-Wan, STOP YOUR SORRY-ASS WHINING. This is shaping up to be a very good film so far. Now shut up and enjoy it. As always, my opinion is the truth.

  • July 24, 2002, 10:45 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s like that scene in RIPLEY

    by Ghost of Versace

    Where Dickie Greenleaf puts on a pair of glasses and Tom Ripley says he looks like Clark Kent, and when Dickie removes the glasses, Ripley says, "...Now Superman!"

  • July 24, 2002, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Paul Gross IS Superman.

    by CBone

    Like I said, Paul Gross is Superman. People just don&#39;t know it yet. AFA Batman goes, Keaton sucked. Being the least shite Batman to date doesn&#39;t mean a hell of a lot. It probably will end up being Colin Farrell. That bitch is in every other damn thing. As current flavor of the month, I think that getting every role for a year and then fading away is in his contract with Satan.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Yeah but

    by Wild At Heart

    Whose gonna star in Popeye vs Andy Capp? Huh?

  • July 24, 2002, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Although I&#39;m still very, very impressed by the virtuoso jour

    by user id indeed!

    ...I&#39;ve read from about four different sites now that it is a rumor, and that "Harry Knowles is wrong". In fact, the only site where this "news" was posted that it HASN&#39;T been retracted is... this one.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:32 p.m. CST

    EMINEM Should Be Superman!

    by Jebuss

    Seeing how eminem is the greatest upcomming actor to grace the Earth, HE should be the Kryptonite fearing faggot Superman. He even has the song! I can&#39;t be your Superman, can&#39;t be your superman... SING WITH ME!

  • July 24, 2002, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Superman should exude integrity not smugness.

    by jollysleeve

    Dean Cain was a great Superman? I know saying this will probably piss you off, but from what little I saw of Lois and Clark he was terribly cast--coming off as more of a frat-boy than the Man of Steel. Honestly, Christopher Reeve was the perfect Superman. In fact, he was probably the most perfectly cast comic book character in the history of the movies. If you&#39;re making an after-school special about binge-drinking or date rape and need a jock-villain or the villain&#39;s best friend, then Dean Cain is your man.

  • July 24, 2002, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Hugh Jackman would make a great Batman/Wayne, but....

    by MaximUltra

    ...20th Century Fox would NEVER let that happen in a million years. "Yeah, Wolverine, go be Batman." (Now, if they made a DARK CLAW movie, then we&#39;ll talk). I think this movie is a bad idea. I can only see it being a total screw-up on WB&#39;s part. They at least have to change that lame ass title. "BATMAN v. SUPERMAN," how gay. I agree with whoever said that Dini&#39;s "World&#39;s Finest" should be the template for this flick. Aside from Dark Knight Returns, it&#39;s the best Batman/Superman dynamic. Of course, in order to achieve the dynamic of DKR, there&#39;d have to be a whole prequel of backstory on the animosity between Supes and Bats. I&#39;m holding all reservations on this one until at least the trailer. Hey, that policy worked on "Crapman and Robin." Saved me 8 bucks.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:05 a.m. CST

    SUPERMAN CREATED BY A CANADIAN? Setting the record straight.

    by Village Idiot

    Hey, Village Idiot, Superman scholar here. Joe Schuster, the guy who first drew Superman was born in Toronto, but he came to America when he was only 9 and lived in the U.S. for the rest of his life. Jerry Siegel, the guy who wrote Superman was born and bred American. So although only by the most technical of measures can you say that Superman was partly created by a Canadian, in reality both creators hailed from that strange world known as...Cleveland.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Bats vs Supes casting

    by bigbrewdude

    Everyone is pointing out how bulked up Tobey got for Spiderman, but Spiderman is skinny! He is NOT bulky! Batman IS. He uses EVERYTHING he can to scare the crap out of the bad guys. Superman doesn&#39;t have to be Mr. Olymia, but he&#39;s a big guy too. Bruce Cambell would have been great for either role, but I don&#39;t think anyone but me and and couple of friends would buy it. Billy Zane would be excellent as Bruce Wayne/Batman as well... Ah whatever... I&#39;ll see the movie anyway.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:18 a.m. CST

    worlds finest...

    by hank quinlan

    I just want to know who&#39;s dick I have to suck to get on the Colin Farrell Gravy train. Hollywood will NOT stop putting him in every single project. Much of his work is mediocre at best. Almost every film he is in bombs. He&#39;s good looking I guess. But he has yet to give anything resembling a standout performance (hoorible in Miniority Report). And yet, you can&#39;t have a new project without casting that wonderful kid from American Outlaws. Look, I think Hollywood needs to create more stars so we can get better projects off the ground without waiting for the same ten guys to attach themselves. But this guy? I hope he does something great real soon. Maybe this will be it. I&#39;m fine with it. WB will never make as good a comic movie as the last few Marvel adaptations anyway. And no one will ever make the Crow. Brandon there&#39;s a guy we could have used. And finally, on a total tangent what&#39;s with struggling actors anyway (besides Farrell taking all their roles!)? I keep trying to cast my indie short. It&#39;s 35mm and a great script and all these actors and actresses are like "no I work weekdays" or "can&#39;t do it. i have plans." Okay, it&#39;s no pay but it&#39;s a GREAT opportunity. And you got better things to do??? You will never make it. Hear me? Never! Get your damn priorities straight. Like that Farrell guy did. He&#39;s not even that talented (he&#39;s good but no Geoffrey Rush) and now look where he is. You&#39;re either a waitress or an actress. Figure it out!

  • July 25, 2002, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Joe Shuster based SUPERMAN on Himself

    by KONG33

    Joe Shuster, born in Toronto based himself on Superman, his costume and his friend on Lois Lane. That doesn&#39;t change the fact that people see him as an American icon, Superman was born in the states, right? Or was the paper printed.... in Canada!?? (horror music plays)

  • July 25, 2002, 12:42 a.m. CST

    some casting ideas are insane!

    by KONG33

    I don&#39;t see HUGH JACKMAN as BATMAN, or the guy from Angel with his baby eyes. Anyway, above it should have read, &#39;based himself on Superman, and his friend on Lois Lane, he also created the costume&#39;. I believe his friend, Lois, was also a Canadian, and he ended up marrying her later in life (what the commercial didn&#39;t tell you).

  • July 25, 2002, 2:06 a.m. CST


    by kinky1


  • July 25, 2002, 2:16 a.m. CST

    It was bullshit. So cant we all just...get along?

    by BuLLeT_TiMe

    Coming Attractions just posted that WB says the casting rumors for Batman vs. Superman are FALSE. "And there was much rejoicing..." ;)

  • July 25, 2002, 2:49 a.m. CST


    by cdotto

    i think jude law is a decent supah, but... here&#39;s the thing. he has the look, but he;s so scrawney. aaron eckhart all the wy. as for batman... clint howard, anyone?

  • July 25, 2002, 2:57 a.m. CST

    PERFECT!! Two **skinny**, **un-American** **20-somethings**!!!!

    by Neil MacAuley

    Why is it a crime now to have big buffed superheroes? Next thing you know in our increasingly "chubby" society and now media (to make people feel better about themselves; heaven forbid having iconic figures be...uh...iconic) they&#39;ll cast Jack Black as Bruce Wayne in Batman:Year One. And hey, does anyone remember the last time Warner Bros. took a young male actor and dubbed him a megastar overnight, due to one role? That was Matthew McConaughey -- look where he&#39;s gone. He&#39;s NEVER taken a role as good as his breakout role, A TIME TO KILL. It&#39;s been pretty much schlock, he sold out big-time. Colin Farrel? The next McConaughey. He&#39;s all marketing and PR; they&#39;re dubbing him a star before he&#39;s got any box-office cred or is anywhere near being a household name. I&#39;m not saying we need just stars in these roles, but I&#39;m getting really annoyed how this guy just jumped onto the "A" list in front of many other more talented actors. Talk about hitting the lottery. Or maybe I&#39;m wrong -- maybe it was his amazing performance in "Tigerland" or "Hart&#39;s War," that won the hearts of America?!! Yeah, I could tell you if I could sit through more than two minutes of those turd-bombs. Why is it everytime I&#39;m flipping channels on cable and I come across Tigerland all the young soldiers are in their underwear or naked in a shower? Oh, I know, because of Joel Shitmaker. The last guy to RUIN Batman. Sheesh.

  • July 25, 2002, 2:58 a.m. CST

    PERFECT!! Two **skinny**, **un-American** **20-somethings**!!!!

    by Neil MacAuley

    Why is it a crime now to have big buffed superheroes? Next thing you know in our increasingly "chubby" society and now media (to make people feel better about themselves; heaven forbid having iconic figures be...uh...iconic) they&#39;ll cast Jack Black as Bruce Wayne in Batman:Year One. And hey, does anyone remember the last time Warner Bros. took a young male actor and dubbed him a megastar overnight, due to one role? That was Matthew McConaughey -- look where he&#39;s gone. He&#39;s NEVER taken a role as good as his breakout role, A TIME TO KILL. It&#39;s been pretty much schlock, he sold out big-time. Colin Farrel? The next McConaughey. He&#39;s all marketing and PR; they&#39;re dubbing him a star before he&#39;s got any box-office cred or is anywhere near being a household name. I&#39;m not saying we need just stars in these roles, but I&#39;m getting really annoyed how this guy just jumped onto the "A" list in front of many other more talented actors. Talk about hitting the lottery. Or maybe I&#39;m wrong -- maybe it was his amazing performance in "Tigerland" or "Hart&#39;s War," that won the hearts of America?!! Yeah, I could tell you if I could sit through more than two minutes of those turd-bombs. Why is it everytime I&#39;m flipping channels on cable and I come across Tigerland all the young soldiers are in their underwear or naked in a shower? Oh, I know, because of Joel Shitmaker. The last guy to RUIN Batman. Sheesh.

  • July 25, 2002, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Yes, that&#39;s the scene I thought about...

    by viola123

    I actually took my "Ripley" out to watch that scene again and it&#39;s so true, when Jude removes those glasses and just looks up, he&#39;s so gorgeous. I think Jude could play anything because of his talent, but for real, I&#39;m hoping this is truly a rumor. I know we&#39;re hearing now that it is, but I&#39;m hoping that Jude doesn&#39;t do it and instead, does Alexander the Great or goes and does "Diary of a London Physician" after "Cold Mountain." I love to see Jude act and something like Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Hyde or the great Macedonian general would be too perfect. That being said, it was very nice thinking of Jude as Superman and Colin as Batman, but I would have flipped them too. I think Jude could be a wicked Batman, but then again, I know he could create a wonderful Superman/Clark Kent too. Anyway, rambling away, but just after such a discussion-filled day, had to get some of my thoughts out. My wish? That Jude gets to be Baz Lurhmann&#39;s Alexander!!

  • July 25, 2002, 4:01 a.m. CST

    Jude Law is a terrible choose

    by turk128

    No amount of bulking up will change his stature and presence, camera tricks or no camera tricks. Heck, even Peter Jackson knew this casting shorter actors for hobbits. Superman isn&#39;t Wolverine or even Batman; stature does make a difference. Jude Law bulked up will look more like Puck.

  • July 25, 2002, 4:19 a.m. CST

    Since I started this whole &#39;Superman is a Canadian&#39; thin

    by Billy Talent

    You do realize I was just having a larf, right?

  • July 25, 2002, 4:21 a.m. CST

    Christopher Reeve scrawny?!

    by turk128

    Here: This was Reeves a couple of years before Superman. Reeves for Superman was one of the best casting ever (he had the physique and the acting skills). Jude Law is a very bad casting choice.

  • July 25, 2002, 4:22 a.m. CST

    But come to that...

    by Billy Talent

    Either Bruce Greenwood or Callum Keith Rennie could make a good Superman, or Batman, couldn&#39;t they?

  • July 25, 2002, 4:22 a.m. CST

    The only Batman film I want to see is The Dark Knight Returns!

    by darthflagg

    Starring Michael Keaton and directed by Tim Burton. You know it makes sense.

  • July 25, 2002, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Knew It Was Bullshit

    by Son Of Batboy

    Didn&#39;t this site once have Jude Law as a lock for Spider-man? Fuck it.

  • July 25, 2002, 5:18 a.m. CST

    I Guess This Could Work, But I&#39;m Not Sold On Law, Maybe If T

    by The Founder

    I think that Farrell would be a better choice for Supes, but then he could pull off Batman. Jude Law is a good actor, and I was never comfortable with him even being mentioned, but I said it wouldn&#39;t be bad if he was Batman if Warners cast him. Boy was I off, because as sure as the grass is green I just knew that if picked he would be Batman. Warners has screwed up my logic, I mean Law as Superman??? He just doesn&#39;t fit the bill to me. I&#39;m comfident the acting would be good, but Superman doestn&#39;t have a U line, I mean how are they going to make the classic curl?? This movies is going to SUCK. Just kidding, but I just don&#39;t see Law as Supes.

  • July 25, 2002, 5:24 a.m. CST

    I love it when actors lie about their height.

    by FunnyManJake

    Jude Law can&#39;t be over 5&#39;9", as Tom Hanks Towered over him in "Road to Perdition." Farrell can&#39;t be any taller either, as he was only a shade taller than Tom Cruise in "Minority Report." They&#39;re going to have to utilize a bunch of up-angles in this movie to make &#39;em look huge. By the way, how tall was Michael Keaton?

  • July 25, 2002, 5:48 a.m. CST

    Colin Farrell&#39;s potty mouth

    by franklyoffensive

    Given Colin Farrell&#39;s tendency to turn the air blue in interviews, maybe we can expect the title of &#39;Batman: Year One&#39; to mutate to &#39;Batman: The Tourette&#39;s Years&#39;.

  • "Whatcha doin&#39; with that bus, brother? New Batmobile?"

  • July 25, 2002, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Farrell is a good choice for Batman

    by dxgarten

    I always imagine Batman as a person who is embittered by his experience as a kid who lost his parent in a murder and Farrell has that intensity in him. Not too sure about Law but I am willing to give him a chance.

  • July 25, 2002, 7:25 a.m. CST


    by VirgilHilts

    It took a while to click as the Australian Eyes Wide Shut I&#39;m familiar with doesn&#39;t have those digital black cloke shadow guys. That&#39;s just wrong.

  • July 25, 2002, 7:45 a.m. CST


    by heyjude62587

    Hey Harry take a stroll over to Corona and see that it is a rumor and has been debunked.

  • July 25, 2002, 8:39 a.m. CST


    by Frenchnick

    So stop the bitching !

  • July 25, 2002, 8:41 a.m. CST

    If only sources were checked properly....

    by Doctor 13

    Coming Attractions contacted Warners and were told that this story is definitely not true. Auditions are still taking place. Farrell and Law are both in the running but they haven&#39;t been cast. Are these stories ever checked with the studios or does every single &#39;story&#39; get posted here unchecked? I remember when this site and many others reported that a Doctor Who film was going to be made, and one call to the BBC would have told you it was nothing but bullsh*t.

  • July 25, 2002, 9:19 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    Alright. Its on now baby.First of all, let me say that I am NOT a racist. And no, just because I said I&#39;m not a racist and just because I&#39;m responding to your idiotic talkbacks doesn&#39;t mean I actually am a racist. I&#39;m NOT. You seem like you have a lot on your mind and if anything, the only closeted racist on this thread is you. There&#39;s a reason you&#39;ve been dubbed a racist on the 8 mile talkback: cuz you&#39;re acting like one! Believe it or not, there are other people on this site that are intelligent besides for you, even though you seem to think you&#39;re feeding the evil white geek community some groundbreaking, jagged little pills that we&#39;re afraid to swallow. You&#39;re not racist. That&#39;s why you&#39;re bitching at the overabundance of white people in the world? Nigga please. That&#39;s why you flipped your lid over a harmless rap and said the guy would get played on MTV because oh, the plight of black rappers! Too bad real talent like Mr. Cheeks had to "sell out" just to get airplay. Nigga please. Oh, and, by the way, they did overlook appearances to some degree when casting Michael Clarke Duncan. He&#39;s huge, he CAN act, and he&#39;s built. Oh, wait, he&#39;s black? Guess that&#39;s not following the comic book to a "T" either. If they did, the guy who played Kingpin would have hands the size of a bunch of bananas. But that&#39;s not your point, is it? The reason they cast Michael Clarke Duncan is because they wanted a token black guy in the Daredevil movie. And he whored himself over to get the part. Okay. Maybe that&#39;s why the studios were happy to oblige, but that sure the hell ain&#39;t the reason Mark Steven Johnson wanted him. He wanted him because he was huge, COULD act, and was built. The guys who cast Daredevil are not the same guys who are planning on casting Batman v. Superman. So HYPOCRISY is only appropriate when referring to yourself. I do think that there are race problems with the studios (token black guys, Ender&#39;s Game?) but looking for a connection between that and casting Jude Law as Superman is a stretch. Oh, no wait, I&#39;m wrong. Michael Clarke Duncan is being "bamboozled," Halle Berry pretended she was white, which she half is, anyway, and every other successful black actor is selling themselves out to the evil force known as caucasians, except for "Malcom X." And how dare you liken black culture to French or Italian culture? If you&#39;re referring to African culture, okay, but the "black" culture you&#39;re referring to is as American as "white" culture. You and Spike Lee can argue all you want that blacks and whites should have two different cultures, and that blaxploitation movies were actually terrific because it was the closest African-Americans came to having a culture of their own. I&#39;m sorry, but "rockin jerseys" and rapping does not find its roots in African tradition. As a matter of fact, as hard as it is for your mind, so strong in its convictions, to grasp, those two "cultures" are not provincial things, developed by a belief system and environmental growth. At least not naturally. Those two cultures only grew apart because segregation and racism separated them in the first place. So now, when people try to move on and bridge the gap between those two cultures, you call them jealous white racists? Nigga please.

  • July 25, 2002, 9:29 a.m. CST

    jude law?

    by yoda900_ca

    Jude law is a great actor,but not great enough to pull off superman. I just don&#39;t think the public will by his small stature. maybe if he can bulk up 40 lbs before shooting starts you might have something.

  • July 25, 2002, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by new_devilry

    And Stevie from "Malcolm in the Middle" as Lex Luthor.

  • July 25, 2002, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Well Said Ribbons

    by Miss Aura

    Nice post.

  • July 25, 2002, 9:59 a.m. CST


    by new_devilry

    Oh, and any ideas for the Joker?

  • July 25, 2002, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by Miss Aura

    Just wondering, in your eyes are there any good things White people have done to this world? Being Black or White should not makes you a good/bad person, its what is inside your heart that counts.

  • July 25, 2002, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Jake Lloyd as Batman, Sofia Coppola as Superman

    by LoneChicken

    Jar Jar Binks as The Joker. Those three would be a perfect way to kill the franchise off before it gets off the ground!

  • July 25, 2002, 10:54 a.m. CST

    And now Cinescape jumped into the debunking zone...

    by Bramton1

    CINESCAPE.COM: Less than a few hours later, Warner Bros. itself shot out an email officially shooting down the rumors. Take it from us, that kind of thing is rare. "The roles have NOT been cast yet

  • July 25, 2002, 11:16 a.m. CST


    by thebigdanbowski

    I think the scrawniness problem may be corrected by CGI as clearly this will be used for the flying and swinging that the heroes do. Can&#39;t see Colin Farrell as Batman at all, but Keaton was an unusual choice and I love his performance. Sounds like they are making the sound decision to cast Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne rather than Superman and Batman. If you catch my drift. Peterson has stated that it is "vs" due to idealogical differences. The only good start to this movie would be to lift the death of Robin from "A Death In The Family" and borrow Batman&#39;s tactics from The Dark Knight Returns to kick Superman&#39;s arse.

  • July 25, 2002, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Tim Robbins = The Joker

    by thebigdanbowski

    How about it ?

  • July 25, 2002, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Even better example than Will Smith

    by holyRoller

    is Edward Norton in American History X. Look at that and look at Fight Club and see the power of steroids and creatine.

  • July 25, 2002, 11:54 a.m. CST

    I think in a techincal sense Moriarty is licking Harry&#39;s ass

    by Tall_Boy

    or maybe licking his scrotum, or sucking on his bals. But his head is in the wrong way for it to be 69er (I dunno, I&#39;ve never seen it done from that angle when I&#39;m with my gf). Man, I&#39;ve been starring at that gif WAYYYYY too much lately.

  • July 25, 2002, 11:56 a.m. CST


    by Atlantis2001

    And to be quite honest,thank god.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Celebrate Good Times Come ON!

    by Zen Man

    Hoo-F-ing-Ray!! It&#39;s all a horrible, horrible hoax! Thank God the truth has been revealed. It just proves how ridiculous the whole notion was. I must admit to feeling a bit silly about getting so worked up over what seemed to be something so outlandish..... But DAMN, it was fun while it lasted! And BTW...the little animated scene going on in the corner of the site sums up EXACTLY why this society is doomed. It&#39;s just wrong on so many levels....

  • July 25, 2002, 12:19 p.m. CST

    ICQPIMP, Boy, do you ever shut up?

    by flimsnake

    Your worse than a girl, man. and what the fuck does, "Oh and you, Harry. If the casting decision wasn&#39;t WRONG to begin with then you would not have needed to say how Superman DIDN&#39;T need to look or DID need to look. In other words, you wouldn&#39;t have defended the choice in the first place, or you wouldn&#39;t have needed to defend the damn choice int he first place. But you defending it shows that this ain&#39;t no Christopher Reeve we&#39;re dealing with, and that boys, is a bad thing." Mena Anyway? Learn to write. I&#39;m sure you had other points that I would like to argue with, and MAYBE even some I would agree with, but your so fucking long winded, that fuck it, I don&#39;t have the time to go through it all.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Okay, so it&#39;s all a rumor. Good.

    by Juggernaut125

    But the movie is still definitely going forward. So how&#39;s about all us fanboys/girls out there throw out our notions of the perfect cast? After perusing the above talkbacks and taking in suggestions this is who I&#39;d like to see filling the big roles (and a few I came up with on my own); Superman - Christian Bale. Batman - Josh Brolin. Lois - Robia LaMorte. Catwoman - Mia Kirschner. Lex Luthor - Kevin Spacey. Mercy (Lex&#39;s Bodyguard) - Jeri Ryan. Joker - Tim Roth. Harlequin - Jaime Pressly. Commisioner Gordon - Robert Patrick. Perry White - Paul Dooley. Jimmy Olsen - DJ Qualls. And then, if they decide to do The Dark Knight Returns with an older cast; Superman - Kurt Russell. Batman - James Brolin. Joker - Mark Hamill or Willem Dafoe. Catwoman - Beverly D&#39;Angelo. Two Face - Billy Dee Williams. Robin - Mara Wilson. Alfred - John Hurt. Mutant Leader - Vin Diesel. Jim Gordon - Cliff Robertson. Commisioner Yindel - Monica Potter. Oliver Queen - Billy Connolly or Sean Connery. Discuss.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:41 p.m. CST


    by Blacket-Man

    Well, that may be an overstatement, however it does look like these two blokes are not locked down quite yet.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Juse Laws going Bald

    by bullshitner

    Hasn&#39;t anyone noticed he has a receding hairline? Actually Its not that bad but its definatly there... In the old comics superman is drawn with a slight receding hairline too...

  • July 25, 2002, 12:57 p.m. CST

    ICQPIMP, Why do I bother...

    by flimsnake

    ... to read your shit? I just can&#39;t fathom why I bothered. Maybe to check on my own and reactions and make sure I wasn&#39;t being too harsh of a person when I used the word "Boy." Maybe to double-check and make sure you are as big of a fucking idiot-bigot-sexist-racist Asshole as you sound. And yep, I was right. Halle Berry in a soft porn? You Obviously have no Taste, or Class, at all.

  • July 25, 2002, 12:58 p.m. CST

    To ICQPimp again

    by Ribbons

    You can spin my posts all you want, but I&#39;m not the one in the wrong here. First of all, I don&#39;t think the Michael Clarke Duncan choice is a good one because I like to see black guys play villains, I just think he&#39;s right for the part. If you can actually imagine some white casting director chuckling devilishly to himself when he thinks of all the scorn and hatred Duncan will receive when people see an evil black man onscreen, then you&#39;re a hopeless paranoid. People don&#39;t agree with the casting of Duncan because a black guy is playing a VILL-AIN, they agree with it because he can convey the power and sophistication that the Kingpin does. Comic geeks are protective of their characters. They&#39;re excited about this choice because of what he brings to the table. They&#39;re not thinking "Yes! A black guy is playing a villain!"********As for Superman, I never said I agreed with the casting of Jude Law, so shut up with that, okay?**********And the reason I referenced Spike Lee is because he&#39;s actually been quoted saying that blaxploitation movies were terrific because it was the closest African-Americans came to having their own culture, which is what I implied he said. As for telling me how I feel about black people, fuck and you. You can define racist all you want, that still doesn&#39;t mean you aren&#39;t one. I&#39;m not speaking out against black people, I&#39;m speaking out against you. You on the other hand, are speaking out against anyone who opposes your convictions of white people. I&#39;m not defending the things that occurred in the past, like slavery and the racism that still today exists, especially in the mid-1900s. But guess what? My family came over here from Greece in 1977. Am I responsible for what black people suffered through because my skin color looks the same as the people who discriminated against them? Now who&#39;s being racist? I&#39;m not painting you as a renegade, and in some respects, you technically have every right to be angry over race issues. But you&#39;re spinning people&#39;s quotes (and misquoting them) into fodder for your own means. If you could actually answer the questions I raise in my posts instead of picking out half-quotes and running away with them (he likes the Michael Clarke Duncan casting decision = he likes to see black people play villains!), then I&#39;ll be more than happy to concede in regards to my opinions. For example, why does quoting Spike lee make me a white person (and not just my skin), hmm? I&#39;d really like to know. Do you even know? And another thing, I don&#39;t think you&#39;re a renegade racist whose opinions are dangerous. Maybe saying what you thought was groundbreaking was overkill, but you seem like an angry man who is firing at anything and everything and for the most part missing. Now if you want to prove me wrong, respond to my questions without spin doctoring everything I say. I never said you&#39;re dangerous, I never said I agree with the Daredevil casting but ALSO agree with the Bats/Supes casting, I never said I hate Spike Lee, I never said I agree with what whites did in the past, I admit that there are race problems in Hollywood and America but that you&#39;re suffering from acute paranoia, and I never said that I go to the movies to see black people play villains. Incidentally, how many "white" movies can you name where black people do play villains?

  • July 25, 2002, 1:08 p.m. CST

    I didn&#39;t know Batman and Superman were gay?!


    No offense to gays, but come on!Batman and Superman might as well be playing on the other team with these two effeminate clowns (not to mention OVERRRATED actors)in their roles. I thought the casting of Daredevil was the all-time champo in sucky superhero casting, but apparently the folks at Warner Brothers decided to regain the shitty casting crown. And Harry, we love you but please surrender your sci-fi comic book credentials at the door for approving of this mess.

  • July 25, 2002, 1:08 p.m. CST

    What in God&#39;s name is that thing

    by BigBadJon

    As for the casting of Jude Law and Colin Farrel I&#39;ll simply say that it&#39;s a little weird, but they&#39;re good enough actors that it&#39;s sure not worth complaining about. Now on to more important things. Why in God&#39;s mostly good name have I been stricken with that thing in the upper-left corner of this page. Man was not meant to see such things... I&#39;ve gotta go I think my eyes are bleeding.

  • July 25, 2002, 1:09 p.m. CST


    by Halloween68

    How about John Cleese as Batman, and that little girl from Curley Sue as Superman? Come on, everybody: Ba-a-ah. Ba, ba. Ba. Bah. Ba-ba, ba.

  • July 25, 2002, 1:13 p.m. CST


    by Larry_Dallas

    .....sorry, figured it would get your collective attention.....anyway, was anyone watching the WB last night?? The 1st AUSTIN POWERS movie was on last night and during a commercial break a preveiw was shown for BIRDS OF PREY, featuring BATMAN an CATWOMAN!!!! Now, this was both good and bad, good, because the actor playing BATS looked DEAD ON.....bad because they are using the BATMAN RETURNS CATWOMAN, costume and blonde hair. This just goes to show how the WB handles it&#39;s comic properties: Continuity be DAMNED....they wanna have this show, SMALLVILLE, BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN and then seperate BATMAN and SUPERMAN movies.....the continuity will be all screwed up.....people will see BIRDS OF PREY and then wonder why BATS and CATWOMAN aren&#39;t married in the movies.....SMALLVILLE will screw up the SUPERMAN movie sereis by introducing characters and situations that will not be acknowledged in the movies......MARVEL&#39;S use of different studios, although a neccessity because of not having a corporate parent, is advantageous because continuitys will not cross and get screwed up......anyway, the dude playing BATS in the commercial was DEAD ON!! Don&#39;t think the concept of the HUNTRESS with no mask is intelligent, but this is the WB....I&#39;ll be checking this out regardless, to see what the WB does with it, but right now, HIRE THE ACTOR IN THE COMMERCIAL TO PLAY BATS!!!! Wanna know if anyone else saw the commercial......FLAME ON DORKS....see ya in May, 2005....

  • July 25, 2002, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Brad Johnson...

    by Red collar

    ...looks exactly like superman should but isn&#39;t he kind of a B actor. Puddy looks the best though. It will be good. I just really hope they cast american actors. Brits and stuff mimmicking an american accent is just so distracting. When I saw LA confidential I left the tehatre and said "whoever was the dialect coach should never work again."

  • July 25, 2002, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Both actors are good, but...

    by ewem

    This whole project, especially if this casting goes through, is a mind numbingly horrid idea. Wow...

  • July 25, 2002, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Larry Dallas are you a complete idiot?

    by stuftseveredhead

    Those "clips of the guy playing batman was dead on" are of Michael Keaton from Batman Returns.

  • July 25, 2002, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Fraser vs. Warburton

    by GypsyTRobot

    Check out "Gods and Monsters" with Ian McKellan. Fraser *is* capable of good acting, but apparently he&#39;s trapped in the crap movie ghetto. Not who I&#39;d cast for Superman necessarily - Warburton has the superhero chops and he can put a nasty spin on Superman if need be. See "The Woman Chaser" if you have any doubts. (but avoid it if you would rather not see Warburton in a variety of disturbing, sexual situations.)

  • July 25, 2002, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Unfortunately, I think we&#39;re all looking for perfect casting

    by Darth Buttafuoco

    It would be great if these two actors resembled their comic counterparts, but they don&#39;t. That&#39;s fine. Ultimately, the performance is more important. A good one will draw you in and make you believe the character. These two are great actors and will pull it off. Take Hugh Jackman, who in all honesty did NOT resemble the comic book Wolverine. The comic Wolvy is short, squat, ugly, and ultra-hairy. Hugh Jackman still personified the character perfectly.

  • July 25, 2002, 3:12 p.m. CST

    I am an idiot, but not a COMPLETE idiot...

    by Larry_Dallas

    .....stuftseveredhead.....I am almost 100% SURE that was not Keaton and Pfeiffer.....the costume for Batman was different, did not look likr the BATMAN RETURNS grayish costume and the jaw and eyes of Bats looked very different from Keaton.....the Catwoman outfit from RETURNS was the same, but the actress looked younger and different....ah well, I could be wrong, but I don&#39;t think I am this time....anyway, these rumors are proving false as it is, but have we all come to the conclusion that we will NEVER be able to agree on who will be cast in this movie.....Supes is VEY hard, since you&#39;re not only trying to get the look of the comic character, but u must contend with the burned upon the mind image of Christopher Reeve as the DEFINITIVE Man of Steel....he is the most PERFECT comic casting ever, right up there with James Marsdens as Cyclops.....Bats, u need brooding, and I still contend Boreanez can do it, ho looks the part and, while not being a future Oscar winner, could pull it off.....I also agree that extending the search and "finding" an unknown would be great...........ah well....FLAME ON DORKS.....see ya in May, 2005...

  • July 25, 2002, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Nice casting. It isn&#39;t true.

    by Zubalove

    Taken from Corona&#39;s Coming Attractions: Mid-afternoon, July 24, 2002... Straight from Warner Bros. itself Coming Attractions has been told that neither Jude Law nor Colin Farrell have been cast in Batman vs. Superman. Auditions continue to take place and more actors will be seen next week. While Farrell and Law are in the running, they have not been signed. They are being considered and nothing more. [Source: Warner Bros.] Huh. I wonder if posting from their site will get me banned? See you all in hell....

  • July 25, 2002, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Ah, come on. Let&#39;s not be provincial here...

    by Roosterbooster

    Remember when Kevin Costner played Robin Hood? We didn&#39;t yelp about that even though he was shite, had the charisma of a sack of cabbages and made not the slightest attempt at the accent. This is just another aspect of globalisation.

  • July 25, 2002, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Dark Horizons DENIES this story!

    by Xphile69

    "One rather surprising rumour has sadly been shot down. Yesterday, Aint It Cool indicated 26-year old Irish actor Colin Farrell (&#39;Minority Report&#39;) will be Batman and 29-year-old English actor Jude Law (&#39;A.I.: Artificial Intelligence&#39;) is Superman. Not long after though, Warners denied the comments: &#39;The roles have NOT been cast yet, they are still seeing other actors in casting next week. Jude Law and Colin Farrell are very definitely in the running but nothing has been locked yet&#39;."

  • July 25, 2002, 3:30 p.m. CST

    This is BULLSHIT, here&#39;s the quote

    by Psynapse

    From Scifi wire today: "Not so, a Warner spokesperson said in a widely disseminated e-mail. "[AICN&#39;s] Harry Knowles is wrong," the e-mail read. "The roles have NOT been cast yet. They are still seeing other actors in casting next week. Jude Law and Colin Farrell are very definitely in the running, but nothing has been locked yet."

  • July 25, 2002, 3:43 p.m. CST

    superman movies

    by fun guy

    i hope they don&#39;t end up using jude law. i&#39;m sorry but he really looks like a major pussy. superman needs to look tough. not muscle bound, but tough. looks doesn&#39;t matter so much with batman. he just needs to be a good actor.

  • July 25, 2002, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Jake, that&#39;s a great theory...

    by KONG33

    I had always thought the Superman concept was tied into the idea of &#39;Nazi Supermen&#39;, but that seems more likely and it has more depth. J.Siegel claimed to have jumped out of bed in the night and created Superman, I wonder what the Jewish Canadian Shuster brought to it, we all know he originally couldn&#39;t fly (different than Kadmon, so when was that changed? And by who?).

  • July 25, 2002, 5:16 p.m. CST

    a step in the right direction most definitly.colin farrell will


  • July 25, 2002, 5:20 p.m. CST


    by Lt. Torello

    ...although Farrell and Law would be great.

  • July 25, 2002, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Man... you people are LOSERS!

    by Jebuss

    I don&#39;t believe what I am seeing here. Are you people aware that you are carrying out Long Drawn out Repetitive Discussions about who would be best suited to play Superman or Batman? What kind of Fucking Gay Geek discusses who&#39;s Cute n&#39; Beefy enough to play superman? I seriously suggest you end this discussion for fear that you fall into the oblivion of rampant Homsexuality Spurred by your subliminal Lust for Preety Actors! Get a goddamned LIFE YOU FUCKS!!

  • July 25, 2002, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Lude Jaw and Falling Cowl?

    by Trevor Goodchild

    Kyle McLachlan 10 years from now. (Alex Ross vision) . Clint Eastwood 10 years ago. (Frank Miller vision). To all you people with a problem about foreign casting of American heroes. Trampshit to you all. This is fictional. What about Hollywood&#39;s theft and exploitation of real lives. U571 anyone? And don&#39;t get me started on Pearl Harbour or Private Ryan.

  • July 25, 2002, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Lude Jaw and Falling Cowl?

    by Trevor Goodchild

    Kyle McLachlan 10 years from now. (Alex Ross vision) . Clint Eastwood 10 years ago. (Frank Miller vision). To all you people with a problem about foreign casting of American heroes. Trampshit to you all. This is fictional. What about Hollywood&#39;s theft and exploitation of real lives. U571 anyone? And don&#39;t get me started on Pearl Harbour or Private Ryan.

  • July 25, 2002, 8:09 p.m. CST

    This Is A Misdirection OR... Vin and The Rock

    by jollydwarf

    With Samuel L. Jackson as The Joker. And J-Lo as Lois Lane. And Bill Clinton as "The Mayor". Just give up on these casting rumors for films that&#39;re AT LEAST two years away. If it&#39;s news, as in 100% legit, then I want to hear it. If know, I&#39;m listening to an old song (50 points for the House that can identify the artist and title) that almost eerily describes the nonsensical, pointless conjecturing on this site. Here it is: "How many times/Have you said to yourself/&#39;I feel like a yo-yo/I&#39;ve been here too long&#39;/I bet if you asked them/Our heroes would say/&#39;We&#39;re already gone&#39;.../I know/Somehow, I know". If you&#39;re 21 and under and get it, I&#39;ll be VEEERRRRY impressed.

  • July 25, 2002, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Man... you people are LOSERS!

    by Jebuss

    I don&#39;t believe what I am seeing here. Are you people aware that you are carrying out Long Drawn out Repetitive Discussions about who would be best suited to play Superman or Batman? What kind of Fucking Gay Geek discusses who&#39;s Cute n&#39; Beefy enough to play superman? I seriously suggest you end this discussion for fear that you fall into the oblivion of rampant Homsexuality Spurred by your subliminal Lust for Preety Actors! Get a goddamned LIFE YOU FUCKS!!

  • July 25, 2002, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Ebonic_Plague OR... "Judges?"

    by jollydwarf

    DingdingdingdingDING! Yes, fifty points for Messr. Plague. While it&#39;s actually Diamond Dave&#39;s song (which I have to deduct 25 points for), you know the guitar player, which is a bonus 25! But Vai and Sheehan carried that band through "Skyscraper", so it might as well be Steve&#39;s song. Scary to think when that album came out, Avril Lavigne was probably in Pampers and Britney was probably in her first training bra (we&#39;re talking 4 or 5 in her case). "Hey Nineteen" indeed (no points, too easy). But I just popped back in to congratulate you on revealing your antiquity factor, much as I did mere moments before. But hey, what else is AICN for? To get your geek ya-yas out so you don&#39;t utter any Jon Favreau-ish "We&#39;re not in Kansas anymore" antiquities and other assorted pop culture esoteria that promotes celibacy in real-life public forums. P.S. Just to kinda stay on point, gimme "Alien V. Predator" over "Bruce V. Clark", because at least we won&#39;t have to endure the &#39;casting grouch&#39; sessions. Now the director of that film, that&#39;s somethin&#39; else....

  • July 25, 2002, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Get the flying and fight scenes right

    by KarkClent

    Casting is a bit of a shock, but I&#39;m OK with it (looks like Warners going with a strategy of who&#39;s hot right now & who&#39;d be young enough for the impending sequels). My thing is to get the action right. My fave Supes film is a combo of Supeman I and II. That&#39;s if it were edited with all the action minus the ridiculous ending of I and the Honeymoon in the Fortress of II (let&#39;s not forget the "let me just capture the villains with my Super-SaranWrap"). Mr. Petersen if you&#39;re reading PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE come correct with the the fight scenes and the flying scenes!!! Donner had the right idea for Superman I, but the aerial fight scenes blew chunks! (the flying kicks looked like they were done underwater). Use the Subway duel in the Matrix for reference. For me the bar was raised the moment we saw that overhead camera shot of Agent Smith pounding Keanu with bodyshots at Super-Speed! That should be the type of ass-kicking that Colin Farrell will get in this film! Hell, sign Keanu to be Superman! He&#39;d be a great Boy Scout. Lord knows the Warners can bank on him (and will, next year).

  • July 25, 2002, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Superman campy?

    by KarkClent

    WHO the FRICK said Superman has to be campy??? Has anyone watched an episode of Smallville? Zero camp factor there. Not one rubberized nipple to be found. Nor a gratuitous crotch shot.

  • Never! To small way to small. In the DCU he is refered to as the big guy. Now Jud law as The joker might be right on the mark. Thin, on the edge he would make one great manic!

  • July 25, 2002, 10:52 p.m. CST

    rampant homophobia

    by mtoast

    Where do all these members of the Bedroom-Beside-Mom&#39;s-Furnace Brigade get off making such distasteful references to homosexuality. Jealousy that somebody else is getting SOME kind of physical human contact? Geez. If you only knew how pitiful you look with that bile dripping off your middle-american suburban chins. Grow up children. Here&#39;s a newsflash: There&#39;s nothing shameful about being a gay man. Can&#39;t say the same about tiny-brained geek-boys who obsess over comic book movies. There is, however, one common factor: neither has sex with women.

  • July 26, 2002, 12:25 a.m. CST


    by sparticusmaximus

    Law could play the Joker, Batman, Luthor.......and fucking YES!!!! SUPERMAN. The man can act.....period. Think of how different he was in Talented Mr. Ripley, Existenz, Gattaca, A.I., And Road To Perdition. Flat out genius..........BTW Great scoop Harry! You shall be vindicated.

  • July 26, 2002, 12:29 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    Alright, I&#39;m gonna try to be a little more objective here. First of all, I never said you were a racist because of what white America did and continues to do. In fact, I think in that case, you are justified. I called you a racist because you&#39;ve said things like "suck white dick," "and not just in color," etc. Also, I laid out everything at the end of my last post so you wouldn&#39;t twist my words around. In some respects, Spike Lee was right. That doesn&#39;t mean I go to watch planet of the apes because a black guy is playing an ape. I also think that black rappers do play up stereotypes, my point is: that doesn&#39;t necessarily mean that Mr. Cheeks would have anything worthwhile to say, anyway. I don&#39;t approve of just sitting back and listening to black-on-black hate crimes, but you can&#39;t justify MTV airplay with selling out. To give you an idea of where I&#39;m coming from, the only rappers I listen to were Ice-T, Rakim, Public Enemy, and Run-DMC. I haven&#39;t even bought a rap CD in years. *Sigh,* I&#39;m beginning to ramble. Look, all I&#39;m saying is, your perspective is obviously different than mine. You can hate me all you want, but to not even know me and say I get my kicks by seeing "silly black men" on screen and that I&#39;m afraid of Spike Lee would be wrong. Also, I can see where you would be upset at Duncan and others being typecast, but the degree of conspiracy theory you have working up is crazy. What else was I gonna say? Oh well, I furgawt. Anyways, I don&#39;t hate you, I don&#39;t even know you. I&#39;m just trying to prove to you that just because I was brought up different doesn&#39;t mean that I (or people like Miss Aura) are part of an evil system. I&#39;m not calling you renegade, but you lumped her into your rant without even answering the question she proposed to you. I called you a racist because you making assumptions about white people that you don&#39;t even know, which isn&#39;t too far off from what you&#39;re implying is wrong with society. But stop making it sound like Hollywood and folks like me are holding sown some third-world country. If my culture thing was off-base, fine. Cast a black Superman for all I care. I&#39;m not a tightwad and I don&#39;t care about pretenses, and Cuba Gooding Jr. as Daredevil would&#39;ve truthfully suited me better as Daredevil than Ben Affleck anyway. (Bright guy, but he&#39;s a wooden actor). I never said you&#39;re a renegade wannabe nigga, just that you&#39;re misguided. If I could, I&#39;d eliminate all forms of racism, even race-biased casting in Hollywood, not because I feel guilty, but because it&#39;s wrong. Like I said, my ancestors weren&#39;t responsible for what&#39;s going on in America today, and blood is thicker than pigment cells. You still insist on telling me how I feel though. Sure, white people have priveleges. That doesn&#39;t mean I deserve to be stereotyped. Neither do you. And that&#39;s the truth. That&#39;s probably all I have to say though, because you keep creating lies and half-truths out of subjects in my posts. You can twist around what I said however which way you want, but I have nothing to hide or feel guilty about. The most race-biased thing I&#39;ve ever done is vote for Dukakis.

  • July 26, 2002, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Actually, Paul Gross would have been near perfect for Superman..

    by Double-Helix

    I never thought of it, until somebody else mentioned it, but Paul Gross would have worked much better. Gross is a theatrical actor; a really bright guy, and he would have eaten up the "nice-guy" role. GREAT IDEA! Almost every other suggestion in here for Superman is beyond terrible, so I won&#39;t even address them. I think, however, DC is trying to give superman a bit more "edge." In all honesty, his character coudl use some, or else EVERYBODY will latch onto the tortured Batman. Jude Law lights up the screen. He&#39;s got "that thing," but I don&#39;t think he&#39;s right for this part. Collin seems like an inspired choice to be Batman, and he might very well be, but I think they could have done better on both accounts. Christian Bale probably would have kicked ass in either role; which is pretty amazing when you think about it... Of the two, Ferrel seems a little better, but still... it doesn&#39;t jump right out at you screaming.... "THEY NAILED IT!" I still remember reading the LOTR casting rumours and everytime they confirmed a new actor, I was just amazed... This project isn&#39;t so lucky... Does anybody remember the rumours from about 5 years ago that Nick Cage was going to be Superman? What happened to that? I guess Nick lost too much hair or something...

  • July 26, 2002, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Wouldn&#39;t Guy Pierce make the perfect Superman?

    by JohnnyTremaine

    Yeah, the guy from "The Time Machine" and "Memento". He&#39;s got all the qualifications: serious acting chops, physical presence (I think he&#39;s around 6&#39; 2")and he&#39;s a bona fide movie star who could put butts in seats. He even did a Clark Kent impression in "L.A. Confidential".

  • July 26, 2002, 1:48 a.m. CST

    One more thing ICQPimp

    by Ribbons

    This isn&#39;t nothin big. Much as that would be cool, McTiernan isn&#39;t gonna go anywhere near A vs. P. That thing&#39;s a train wreck waiting to happen.

  • Is it safe to say that the only reason one would further post in this talkback is due to either dream casting or bitching about ICQPIMP (whom I agree with on most issues, despite my non-blackness). Oh yeah, to further push the already pushed envelope on the subject (just in case anyone&#39;s still reading this garbage), Bale shouldn&#39;t play every DCU hero, just Batman! Just watched "All the Little Animals," another flawless performance. ARGH!

  • July 26, 2002, 3:18 a.m. CST

    bats good...supes bad

    by Greenday590

    when you have a big budget comic film like this it can go both ways. good/bad. BUT if you throw a good script nd good actors into the mix it automatically boosts the rating. Colin Farrel couldnt b more perfect as batman. he can get that "im so torn up inside" look and pull it off well. As for jude law...hes too classy for superman. Remember, superman is supposed to be the all-american alien. He grew up on a farm and is mild mannered. i dont think law could do it right. you need someone more, more...geeky. and someone a little more buff. maybe wes bentley or guy pearce. as for lex, whoever sed john malkovich is right. but who would the batman villain be...

  • July 26, 2002, 3:22 a.m. CST

    I apologise... You aren&#39;t Losers

    by Jebuss

    Ebonic Plague made a very good Point. Who am I (Your Lord and Savior) to tell you what you should and should not be obsessing over. Actually, let me join IN this Wonderful Discussion. I think Jude Law would make a decent superman, BUT did anyone notice? Chrisopher Reeves had a HUGE Bulge. His Big Ol Peepee Stuck outa that Superman Suit Like a Fuckin Psudo Boner! Infact! I hear his Mega Dick drove his Horse into a Jelous fit! Which Threw him of the saddle and turned him into the Limp Dicked Vegetable he is today. I&#39;m afraid Jude Law doesn&#39;t have the *Balls* to play the next superman. Bulge wise he ranks just behind the little I see dead people Kid from A.I. Jude Law has some *large Pants to Fill for this superman role and unless he starts building his Testicular Fortitude Quickly, I&#39;m afraid his chances are rather *Flaccid*. NOTE: Words surrounded by * are Cliched PUNS and should be ignored.

  • July 26, 2002, 3:25 a.m. CST

    rarely do I bitch and moan here... but....

    by TheGinger Twit

    Jude Law as Superman? I don&#39;t think so. Someone really has a hard on for the Nic cage look in hollywood. That guy in smallville is the best superman since Chris reeves!

  • July 26, 2002, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Lude Jaw and Falling Cowl

    by Trevor Goodchild

    Kyle Mclachlan 10 years from now. Alex Ross style. Clint Eastwood 10 years ago. Frank Miller style.

  • July 26, 2002, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Flag wavers

    by Trevor Goodchild

    To those who complain about American characters played by foreign actors. This is just fiction. How about Hollywood stealing and exploiting real lives and events. Did the same people complain about U571 being changed to an American Sub.

  • July 26, 2002, 6:58 a.m. CST

    Good Lord don&#39;t make this movie.

    by Andy Travis

    What a horrible idea. Yeah, they&#39;re good actors (Law is perhaps the best actor of his generation), but GOOD LORD. Superman vs. Batman? Batman vs. Superman?

  • July 26, 2002, 7:49 a.m. CST


    by Andrew M Ryan

    Farrel and Cruise face to face in Minority Report? Yeah, well Cruise was face to face with Max Von Sydow in some scenes and that Swede is 6&#39;3"! Plus call an Irishman British is fine if they&#39;re from Northern Ireland. Law was pretty muscular in Ripley. And he&#39;s several years older than Reeve was in the first Superman. In fact Tom &#39;Smallville&#39; Welling is older than Reeve was, and he&#39;s playing superBOY!

  • July 26, 2002, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by Bunger

  • July 26, 2002, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Now I am officially embarrassed...

    by FightingAmerican

    ...Harry, time to take this off the site. Been shot down by everyone and you&#39;ve been sighted the fool. Time to pack it in. ...I am and always will...awww...nevermind...

  • July 26, 2002, 12:15 p.m. CST

    O ho...IMDb has posted a confirmation of sorts...

    by Nordling

    So naysayers, better start backpedaling.

  • July 26, 2002, 12:25 p.m. CST

    But isn&#39;t Jude Law going bald?

    by HobbitsOnCrack

    I guess they can just put a wig on him in the sequel :)

  • July 26, 2002, 1:04 p.m. CST

    This is a lie

    by Billy Boy

    This whole casting thing is a lie, niether one has been cast for anything. They are apprently still on the &#39;shortlist&#39;. Anyway, Jude Law is a great actor and all, he could bulk up but theres one problem..he`s under 6 feet tall. Thats not good if you`re casting Superman, espcially if hes gonna be even smaller than Batman, it makes no sense at all. Dean Cain got a lot of negative comments for being too small and he`s bigger than Jude Law! That said, I think Superman is gonna be really hard to cast, more so than Batman. No matter who they choose not everybody will be happy and the person picked will forever be compared to Christopher Reeve which is a compliment to the great man but for the person who plays Superman, it`s not so good because he WILL NOT top or even come close to Chris Reeve, he was like the PERFECT guy to play Superman.

  • July 26, 2002, 1:38 p.m. CST

    farrell and law

    by adelews

    I think Colin Farrell is an excellent choice for Batman, but there&#39;s no way I can buy Jude Law as Superman...too thin too weird and too british. I know they&#39;re both excellent actors but still how far can good acting take you when the look isn&#39;t there - a large part of being a superhero is also looking like one....

  • July 26, 2002, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Harry,you&#39;re smoking crack!


    This is a horrible casting for both part.They&#39;re both too short too young and too small to play either roles.Jude Law is a fine actor but not right for the role,I don&#39;t need to see superman reciting shakespear.And jude Law&#39;s voice is way too faminine to sound like the man of steel.Can&#39;t they find anyone who has a physical appearence and decent acting ability to play Superman and Batman?These are supposed to be larger than life characters,creatures of fantasy.Not a couple of smirmy looking arched eyebrowed(unibrow in the case of ferrell)midgets.Nor Clark and Bruce excellent adventures.Christian bale would&#39;ve been slightly better.anyway these are two american characters. ps.Daredevil&#39;s going to tank like a mofo

  • July 26, 2002, 2:35 p.m. CST



    BECAUSE WE&#39;D ALL BE IN SOME SERIOUS DEEP SHIT, THEN!!!! I mean, really, how can some of you talk sound tremendous shit about something you don&#39;t know the first thing about? Any of you ever made a film, hmmm? I haven&#39;t. And while, yes, being a human being, a have a tendency towards making fun or bitching about stupid things that I don&#39;t understand or know the whole story of. And I&#39;m also a total geek who cares a little too much about pointlss diversions, such as comic book-translated-films. But I also realize this, and try to keep this in mind when making statements about such things in a public forum. SOME OF YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, make no attempt to hide your lack your pathetic egomania. Obviously, you&#39;re almost always wrong. Did you not learn from this mistake when you said the same thing about Michael Keaton? Or Tobey MacGuire? Hell, some of you even bitched about Wesley Snipes (I remember people complaining because he was too scrawny...). And, in return for your constant pessimism and ridiculous "points", you give the most assinine solutions, and whacked-out theories why YOU could "make the greatest (Enter Superhero Here)movie of all time!!!!" ...please. Like anyone really gives a shit what you think. You wanna make movies, huh? Well, tell you what...go make &#39;em. Nobody&#39;s stopping you. Go produce a run of short films, which you in turn send through a guantlet of film festivals. If you&#39;re good enough, find the money (investors or so forth) to finance a full length. Get it to Cannes, Or Sundance, or Tromadance, or any major festival. Win the interest of the larger studios. Sign a contract. Make the romance comedy that the execs have offered you. Go it well. Then, the next time someone says, "hey they&#39;re optioning So-and-So into a film deal", JUMP ON IT. And then, make the Greatest Superhero Movie of all Time...of course, with the studio&#39;s alloted budget, time constraints, script changes, and ntjob producers who wanna throw in a gay roommate for The Punisher to live with...<b> Or, if you don&#39;t want to go through all that... then keep your big ole&#39; yap closed. Cuz contrary to the image of yourself you&#39;ve created of yourself, whilst alone in your bedroom all these many years, you are Not an authority on shit, Nobody gives a monkey&#39;s flying left testicle what you have to say about the Batman franchise, and comic books, movies, comic book-movies, dogs-that-when-they-bark, bees-come-out-of-their-mouths, or whatever other hobbie you have, is NOT a huge deal. And as far as all the shit-talking about Harry, if you hate the fat bastard so much, then what are you doing here??? Their are a shitload of other movie-news sites, many of which have forums for you to use in the continuing deterioration of your social lives. But man, how much of an asshole are you that you actually here to rail on someone and then ask him for a handout. "Please Harry, You Bloated-Sea Cow Sellout you, please give us some more shit that we are completely ungratefull of". Ha. Like all of you aren&#39;t 300lbs of pale horseshit yourselves...<b> I have never met Harry Knowles, altough a friend of mine gave him a script to read (which he most likely didn&#39;t). I have no connections to any movie studio, website, or anything else that would possibly make me "the man", nor am I a "scab", or a "mark", or whatever terminology you use. In fact, I&#39;m alot like most you use; normal, middle-class guy. Kinda overweight, kind of a dork. A lot of big dreams. Not much success thus far. But at least I kuckin&#39; know it. To all of you who aren&#39;t the people I&#39;m describing, good for you. I hope you don&#39;t judge a film before you&#39;ve even seen it, because you are too intelligent to do that. I hope you never find yourself getting so upset over a piece of entertainment. I hope you get laid on a semi-regular basis. I hope you stick around; this place needs as much help as it can get...

  • July 26, 2002, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Only wanted my question answered

    by Miss Aura

    ICQPIMP, all I asked you was what good has white people done to this earth in your eyes? Still waiting for it to be answered too. You can say what you like about Black actors roles, I agree with you there. As for wating for Alien v Predator, if Hollywood dont f**k that up like everything else it touches - I will be amazed. Freedom of Speech is not here, too many sheep follow the big man with the ginger beard. Now moriarty on the other hand, is one of the great reviewers on the net. So Pimp take your chip off your shoulder and relax and enjoy and take the rough with the smooth.

  • July 26, 2002, 4:17 p.m. CST


    by liljuniorbrown

    I&#39;ll stand by my choices.Malcovich is the only actor that can play luthor and Mickey Rourke as the joker.I just watched Mickey Rourke in "The desperate hours"on cinemax,give that man some green hair and let him play the vile, evil,sick freak that the joker is the books.Everybody keep posting your casting idea&#39;s. ya&#39;ll really nailed it,if only warner brothers would take the advice of the folks who will be paying to see this movie

  • July 26, 2002, 4:21 p.m. CST

    batman and superman new flick

    by shadow master

    It is unbelievable who is being cast in the new batman/superman flick. What is the deal in Hollywood? In the new millennium is the only prerequisite to be a movie star is be skinny white and look like a fag? Who the fuck are the producers of this soon to be bomb? Letterman you were wrong Clooney didn&#39;t kill batman only wounded him, but don&#39;t worry he soon will be! Someone tell the suits to go down to Santa Monica Blvd to fulfill their dreams!

  • July 26, 2002, 4:55 p.m. CST

    amen to mtoast!!

    by Joeyj1220

    Thank God someone addressed the homophobia in here... Its especially funny seeing all these stupid remarks about how these actors appeal to gay audiences, or so-and-so is "too gay". HELLO!!! We&#39;re talking a super-hero movie!! We&#39;re talking buff men dressed in tights. Super heroes have always been a little bit Lavender! (no matter how many scantily clad babes the artists pair them up with) I do agree, however, that while I like Jude Law, he would seem wrong for the part of Superman. And David Bowie would be great as any villain. Even his 5 minute screen time in "Last Temptation of Christ" was brilliant.

  • July 26, 2002, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Excellent Casting

    by Ray_R

    Actually two guys that can act. As for Jude and his size. He will buff up. That I don&#39;t doubt. Hollywood needs some new type and depth and these guys will bring it to the blockbuster easily. Now as for the script, if it&#39;s bad then they&#39;ll let the Director know. The script is the key here not these obviously capable actors. (No pun intended)

  • July 26, 2002, 6:03 p.m. CST


    by Red collar

    At first I was really upset about a British guy and an Irish guy playing American Icons. But now that I&#39;ve had a few days. I think Jude Law would be kick ass. In some movies he does look like a big athletic guy, just dye his hair black and he really could be superman. I&#39;d rather see someone else as batman but well this could be a really cool movie or a big ass disapointment. On the other hand I could give a shit. Be Good, sons of Casador. Loyal Dogmen all.

  • July 26, 2002, 7:19 p.m. CST

    It&#39;s spelled Christopher REEVE!

    by Flexfill

    Poor Christopher Reeve. First he&#39;s in a wheelchair, paralysed, and then all these troglodytes spell his name wrong! George Reeves was the old black and white T.V. Superman. Christopher Reeve is the fucking man. Just watch the documentary on the special edition. Donner talks about how hard it was to find a guy to play the part. This is going to be tough. Despite the credibility of this news, Jude Law really isn&#39;t the answer; I&#39;m sorry. I like Jude Law. He&#39;s done some good stuff, but they&#39;ve got to go out and find the new Christopher Reeve. That ain&#39;t no easy task, folks.

  • July 26, 2002, 8:39 p.m. CST



    I&#39;m usually all for debate, and people&#39;s right to day what they want..but I&#39;m starting to regret that ...Oh,..where to start...ok, first off: to ICQPimp - yeah, we get it. You really love Christopher Reeves. Understood. But here&#39;s a newsflash for you: he&#39;s not gonna get to play superman again. Sad, definately, but true. So your obbession, while commendable, is pointless. As is your Michael Clark Duncan theory, I feel. Is he subject to the out-dated notions of black roles in films, as every black actor is? Certainly? Is he an "Uncle Tom"? No. First off, he did play a drill team member in Armegeddon; no particular stereotype there. And Green Mile??? A slave??? How about the fact that he was a HEAVENLY BEING?????? Explain how THAT is a stereotype. If anything, he is stereoyped in a whole other way; as a BIG guy. This is what truly typecasts him in roles (or, to be more fair, what FURTHER typecasts him). It&#39;s one thing to be a black actor, but it&#39;s a whole other thing to be a black actor who&#39;s built like a BULL. And while, yes, the Big, Scary, Black Man is absolutely one of the biggest predjuices found within white culture, it is NOT the subject of his previous roles. If anything, other than a role on "Martin" (which is a show with an almost entire black essemble, so where is your point there? Black people can&#39;t be inmates?), he has played fairly positive roles. And now, the Kingpin. Which you know Nothing about, short of what you&#39;ve read here. But, I can tell you this; is he gonna be talking in slang and wearing tommy hillfiger, and eating fried chicken, do you think? NO. He&#39;s playing a criminal mastermind, the head of a major corperation, and a seriously tough, sophisticated, INTELLIGENT individual. Damn, whatta brake for the poor guy. Shit, from the looks of it, the only people acting the fool is the REST of the cast (which I make no judgements about until AFTER I see the movie). So while I agree with your points, I think you are being far too closeminded here. "Extreme solutions are never truly solutions". I forget who said that... And to all the people who feel that Jude Law isn&#39;t tall enough, are doesn&#39;t talk like Superman (????) my only advise; wake the hell up! Your weird, schoolboy-crush fantasies are never, ever going to become reality; Superman doesn&#39;t exist. "Sperman & Batman are American icons..." Yeah, and they are also cartoons! Actors can&#39;t play them, cuz they&#39;re foreginers? What, you want them to shoot lasers are their eyes as well? Superman has heat vision, so now it isn&#39;t right unless the goddamn actor has heat vision? It&#39;s the same line of think; childish and idiotic. The only thing close to the PERFECT actor, was, maybe, Wesley Snipes as Blade. Why? For one, Because he both looked like a muscle-bound destroyer of evil, and he could actually kick ass. But above that, becuase the charatcer he was playing had little to no true depth to begin with, and ths could take the role in whatever direction he felt without whiny fanboys bitching every step of the way. Christopher was really damn good, Tobey MacGuire was good (if you disagree then you know nothing about Peter Parker or Spiderman, and only really liked the McFarlane version). Hugh Jackman was great. But no one is ever going to be perfect, no one will ever fulfill your personal idea as the epitomy of the character; that&#39;s just the way it is. At least let someone who can pull off the HEART of the role give it a shot before you sart calling them "gay" or whatever. And you&#39;re right; stop using homosexuality as an insult. That is the most bigoted thing going on here. Comic/movie geeks are supposed to be open-minded and liberal thinkers..or maybe you&#39;re just into guns and tits..

  • July 26, 2002, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Paul Gross... yeah, that would be perfect

    by Frietag

    I haven&#39;t thought about Paul Gross since my mother used to watch DUE SOUTH religiously, but you guys are right, he&#39;d be perfect. We&#39;d all be sitting here going, "Damn, good call." Somebody call Wolfgang and tell him.

  • July 26, 2002, 9:34 p.m. CST

    by ricardodaintino

    Colin farrel is a good choice. I thought he was the best thing in Minority report and look forward to seeing him as bullseye in DD. He has lond kissed goodbye to the Ballykiss angel days of english TV. Not to sure on Jude Law though, but still a good turn of events for us brits. Two english actors as american super heroes. Will it work?

  • July 26, 2002, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Captain redundant strikes again

    by Wydok

    What is it with everyone here? It is like no one reads any posts. "Dark Horizons shot this down." -- 5 posts later "I just read Dark Horizons shot this down." Or: "Paul Gross would make a good Superman." Two posts later "Hey, what about Paul Gross?" Or the number of people just now figuring out what the animation is! No shit! It&#39;s been discussed already! You don&#39;t have to point it out, just read the freakin&#39; subjects.----------------Sorry, in a bad mood.

  • July 29, 2002, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Oh Fanboys, you make me feel sad

    by KNiEViLDEAD

    This is really saddening...time and time again people are making stupid fucking comments about how superman should be played by an American because he is an American icon.... that is a load of shit. Yes he is an American Icon, and yes he was partially created by a Canadian. The Canadian, Joe Shuster or whatever, lived in Canada until he late teens or early twenties and worked at a newspaper called the Toronto Daily Star (now just the Toronto star), which became the basis for which the daily planet was based on. So yes, he was Canadian, but that is not a good rebuttal for those who argue that superman should be played by an American. A better argument should be, "who the fuck cares who plays Superman, as long as the do a good job and look reasonably like superman" I don&#39;t thin Jude law is a good choice, not because he is British though, but because he doesn&#39;t have the physical presence that superman should have. Superman needs to be played by someone who is big and who has a good physical stature, because Jude law could work out all he wants, but he ain&#39;t going to grow 5 inches. I think that any actor who can act, and is in decent shape, and who has the stature should be able to play superman. Those who argue that superman is an American and should be played by an American should realize that he is Kryptonian, and is only an adoptive Icon if anything. And the American way bullshit...just shut up. I&#39;m sick of American chest thumping... this is a movie. A FREAKING MOVIE, NOTHING MORE... this will not cure cancer, or get most of the lonely fanboys out there a date with a real woman. It is a movie, and people should drop their anti British sentiments and remember one thing, it is the French that we all decided to hate decades ago due to their anti-semitic behavior, willingness to give up at the first sign of invasion, poor hygiene and bad manners. So lets stop hating the British actors and start hating the French once more.... but enough about them. And another thing that I took offence to...never call an Irishman a brit. It is on par with calling a bald eagle a pigeon (I chose this analogy purposely to illustrate my point to all you Americans out there. it is offensive to the Irish, who largely dislike the English because of their oppression of the Irish for ...oh, just a few hundred years. But then again, none of this really matters anyways, because AICN was wrong, and those said to have been cast, were not cast. So my whole point is essentially null and void, except for my great dislike of those pompous, self righteous, "superman should be American" people. If the actor eventually chosen for superman is American, good for that actor. If he is not American, even better, because then you stupid fanboys will be all bitchy, complain about what you cannot change and what you have no input into anyways, and then will eventually see the movie anyways, and see that whatever actor is chosen will probably do a good job with whatever the WB shitty script they are give, because lets face it, if this movie sucks, its not because of the acting, it will be because the premise is lame, or the script is a piece of shit (think batman and robin), or there are any neon sets in the movie (which automatically makes it lame unless they are in Las Vegas) That is all I have to say. I assume someone will disagree with we and probably try to make a personal attack upon me. To those lonely, chronic-masturbating nerds, I say,

  • July 29, 2002, 2:33 p.m. CST


    Yeah Windsor...and you&#39;re also an asshole. Go have fun gay-bashing, you fucking bigot.

  • July 29, 2002, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Thoughts on the casting of Superman and Batman

    by JBElliott

    IMO Jude Law play Superman. The best version I&#39;ve seen in comics that looks most "real" and would, IMO, translate best to a film is Alex Ross&#39; version, see: for his poster of Superman. The actor who plays Superman has to be BIG and physically imposing, so much so that you feel it through the screen, he has to have the weight to make you feel he&#39;s Superman. Even Christopher Reeve didn&#39;t quite have it, IMO, he was tall enough, but still too slight of build. Not that Reeve wasn&#39;t a big guy, just not Superman big. Of course the actor has to be able to act, but his physical presence is a large part of the acting that will be required. Superman has to be MASSIVE, so much so that Clark Kent should look a little silly in a suit and more natural in his Superman uniform. That essence of the character was captured well by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale in "Superman for All Seasons" see: where Clark looked uncomfortable when he towered over Pete Ross and Lana Lang and a citizen of Smallville noted that Clark was "as big as a barn" to which Clark responded "Thanks, I guess." To those who argue that Superman doesn&#39;t have to be big, that he gets his powers from his Krytonian physiology, I&#39;d say that&#39;s true, but I&#39;d point that in most versions of Superman in comics and cartoons, he&#39;s been shown as being larger than the average human male. Some comics have even gone so far as to say that Kryptonians are larger and more developed than human because they have evolved themselves into "perfect physical specimen." So a small actor of slight build is not consistent with most versions of Superman, even the oldest versions by Sigel and Schuster showed him to be very muscular. The only actor I&#39;ve ever seen who looked close Ross&#39; or Sale&#39;s Superman was Clint Walker, see page 47 of issue 131of Wizard Magazine for a similar opinion. He played Samson Poesy in "The Dirty Dozen." See: Of course he&#39;s much too old to play Superman now, but an actor of his looks and build and even ability (he might not have been great, but he played Posey well enough) would, IMO, be perfect for Superman. The thing about Walker&#39;s work as Posey was that you knew he was big (he made Jim Brown look small) and strong and imposing, but he was also restrained, you felt he could crush you, but you knew he wouldn&#39;t. There was a scene where he defended a smaller guy who was being picked on and Walker didn&#39;t do much of anything but lay a hand on the shoulder of the bully and look down at him and the guy backed off. The other actors could react easily to that kind of acting since Walker&#39;s physical size gave him that kind of presence. It&#39;s the look Mark Waid&#39;s and Ross&#39; version of Superman often gave in "Kingdom Come," I&#39;m thinking specifically of the full page at the end of the first issue. That, IMO, will be a key in portraying Superman on the big screen. Open the link to Clint Walker&#39;s picture and then open another window with the link to Ross&#39; Superman and tell me they don&#39;t look alike. Similarly, IMO most of the guys mentioned are too short to play Batman. I know acting ability is most important, but physical stature is also key in acting, Paul Reubens and Arnold Schwarzenegger aren&#39;t going to be competing for the same roles (even if the were actors of similar [or any] ability). While I thought Ross&#39; Superman was the best comic version to translate to film. I&#39;m not so sure about his Batman. For one thing I don&#39;t think Ross&#39; Bruce Wayne was handsome enough. Though I did like some of Ross&#39; interpretations, for instance the physical effort and the lengths to which a person would have to go to be Batman, see: That&#39;s what Tim Burton missed about the Batman mythos when he cast Michael Keaton as Batman. Bruce Wayne was driven to train his body to the zenith of human perfection (or something like that is the description of Batman in "Kingdom Come") in addition to training his mind to be the "world&#39;s greatest detective." Thus the actor who plays Batman should have a body that reflects the training the character underwent. Back to the handsome part, Bruce Wayne was born as the last of "a fading line of royalty" (Frank Miller, "Batman - Year One" page 4) and should be very good looking, the same way Prince William is thought of today, see: Note that I&#39;m not saying Prince William should play Bruce Wayne/Batman, or that they look alike, but only that Prince William is rich, handsome and prominent in the way Bruce Wayne would be. To that end the Bruce Wayne/Batman of David Mazzuchelli seems like the most "real" version and would translate to film very well. Batman&#39;s build would be that of a gymnast, if the gymnast were about 6&#39;2". So the idea of someone like Christian (if he can act) Bale, see: as Bruce Wayne/Batman would work, IMO. For all of Michael Keaton&#39;s good points, I never felt that he was Batman or Bruce Wayne, I didn&#39;t like Burton&#39;s take on the character and the rubber suit never felt right. I&#39;m hoping they follow B-TAS or "Year One" when interpreting Batman. But we&#39;ll see. It&#39;s too bad that I&#39;ve not heard any news of people like Paul Dini getting any input on this project. His work on the animated series for Batman, Superman, JLA and the direct to video movies has been brilliant, capturing the essence of the characters beautifully as well as capturing the attention of fans and viewers today.

  • July 29, 2002, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Hey, Jude, don&#39;t make me laugh

    by Abe 55

    Yes, I am a self-admitted fan boy who is still hoping this casting rumor is just that--a rumor. Come on, Jude Law as Superman is a joke no matter how you slice it. Call me a geek if you want, I just don&#39;t think the Man of Steel ought to be the shortest person in the room. However, I acknowledge that JL is a very talented actor, so for all you Brainiacs out there who maintain that this is the casting coup of the century, this is my solution. Keep Law in the movie but cast him in a role that fits his stature. My suggestion? Mr. Mxyzptlk. And Colin Farrell can play Bat-Mite. Now that&#39;s casting.

  • July 30, 2002, 12:12 p.m. CST

    this could definetely work

    by 1986

  • July 30, 2002, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Batman/Superman hubbub

    by mack2002

    No reason to be hopeful here. The casting of Jude Law - a first-rate young actor with less-than-zero physical presence (it&#39;s all homoerotic skin and eye crap)? THAT just dictates the typical Hollywood solution to comic-book realization - rubber muscles and CG-yawn-I. The real reason to fear are the rumblings that this flick will be set in a post 9/11 aware world. Truth, justice and jingoistic hoopla. NO ONE has ever gotten the story of Batman vs. Superman right. Dark vs. Light? Obsessed vs. Optimistic? Bright sunny Metropolis vs. Dark gloomy Gotham? Load of crap! The story here is this: Bruce Wayne is a man who wants to become superhuman, while Kal-El is an alien who&#39;d rather be a regular joe. Throw Lois Lane in as the object of BOTH&#39;S affection, and maybe you&#39;ve got something. Oh, and please, long camera angles and street-level points-of-view shots - keep the herky-jerky MATRIX ala MTV, SPIDER-MAN-style effects for the theme park "adventure."

  • July 30, 2002, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Young actors, virtually unknown

    by TomVee

    Such a mess of talkbackers for such a non-event! I thought from thi first that young actors, essentially unknown, should play these roles. Law and Farrell fill that requirement. Most people know Law from one movie and don&#39;t know Farrell at all. I would love to see Billy Zane or Keanu Reeves play Superman, but they are both too well known -- and too old. The only person that comes to mind for Batman is Jim Cavaziel, and he is now too well established as a Hollywood biggie. Nothing wrong with Law and Farrell at all. At all.

  • July 31, 2002, 10:29 p.m. CST

    casting for Batman/Superman

    by PPButt

    I completely disagree with people that say that because Superman is powered by the yellow sun he doesn&#39;t need to be big. That&#39;s crap. Superman has always been big, and always will need to be portrayed big. That&#39;s not to say Jude Law can&#39;t play the part- look at Tobey Maguire in that Spidersuit- he&#39;ll just have to spend all day everyday in the gym before shooting. I think Colin Farrell is an awesome choice to be Batman. But aren&#39;t these just rumors anyway? I sure hope they don&#39;t end up with Brendan Fraser as Superman- he is a little old and is mostly known as a goofy actor. What about Welling from Smallville? He has both the look and the body, but the fact that he is already playing Superman as a teenager might have a damper on his chances of being cast. Other casting suggestions: John Malkovich as Lex Luthor and Willem Dafoe as Joker (he had a good evil laugh in Spider-Man).

  • Aug. 8, 2002, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Michael Keaton and Dean Cain are the real HERO&#39;S

    by RazoR14

    I don&#39;t know what the hell you all are talking about it should be Michael Keaton as Batman and you should find some one like Dean Cain to play Superman. You should pick Chris Reeves but he is paralyzed. Those 2 Michael Keaton and Chris Reeves are the to classic, cool and legendary hero&#39;s, but since Chris Reeves is in a wheel chair you should pick the next cool Superman Dean Cain Josh Age 14 Take a look at the future movie site called It has past, present, and of course future movies like Batman: Year One, Batman Beyond, Superman V, The Batman/Superman Project, The Flash, and The Hulk plus lots lots more...

  • Dec. 13, 2002, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Jude & Colin

    by surfa

    I think that these two good looking men will do good in the roles of superman and batman, it might be a bit of a challenge, but both of them are good actors and will be able to pull it off.

  • Dec. 13, 2002, 7:18 p.m. CST


    by lizzardmarine

    These are two of America's top icons. While Farrell is a good actor, he's Daredevil's enemy Bullseye. That is a Marvel character. He can't play both a Marvel and DC character. It's not right. As for Jude Law, again, good actor, but he is not nor can he be Superman. Here's my picks. Superman needs to be someone that can easily pull off CK and Supes. My pick is Brendon Fraiser. Yes, I know that's a little cheesy, but it's better than recommending Leo. As for the Dark Knight, even though Keaton was the best, I'll have to go with either Wil Wheaton (ST:TNG) or some guy by the name of Sting. No, not the singer, the wrestler. Now, how about that?

  • Jan. 10, 2003, 6:23 p.m. CST

    casting superman/batman

    by Mackenna

    I would like to see James Caviezel as superman.. he was great in Count of Monte Cristo and High Crimes. As for batman, I would like to see Viggo Mortensen cast because he can pull off that dark and tortured soul stuff. Ok, it's more that I just have a high lust quotient for Viggo Mortensen but if I were casting, that's who I'd pick.

  • July 10, 2003, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Unknown man of steel and caped crusader?

    by killahokid

    I don't know how you, nor your avid readers, could even begin to say that Jude Law, or Colin Farrell are "unknowns". Both of these actors are known for substantial roles in the movie industry, or have you been living on Krypton for the past five years? Colin Farrell has been looked at for every major movie since "American Outlaws" and has been a part of major holly wood since then. Do you remember any of these films: Phone Booth, The Recruit, Hart's War, Minority Report, and now S.W.A.T.? Did these slip your minds. A close supporter of Al Pacino, Bruce Willis, Tom Cruise, and Samuel L. Jackson respectively. And Jude law: The Road to Perdition, A.I., The Talented Mr. Ripley, Gattaca. Perhaps you only watch shitty movies so you don't know about any of these, but hands down I would have to say that these are two of the most well known-young-leading men in hollywood. They have both been in extremely substantial films that all people know about. The name Colin Farrell alone would make for the number one movie nationwide.