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Paul 'Hack' Anderson to Direct ALIEN VS PREDATOR!
... Harry here... What can I say? The second Paul Anderson walked out of his first pitch meeting on this project, I told you folks. When he was telling folks around him he got the job, I told you folks. And in turn, y'all reacted. You spoke your mind, and I know for a fact that FOX read all those responses in Talk Back. Surely someone at Fox thought about the fans, watched his wretched filmography and spoke out against this decision. Perhaps not. Perhaps FOX, the company set on shutting down unauthorized SIMPSONS and BUFFY sites... I think it is pretty obvious what they think of fan community. They hire one of the absolute shite directors in the genre world to realize one of Genre Fans' dream projects. How you go from talking to James Cameron and John Woo to saying... Hey, let's give Paul "Never made a good movie" Anderson a shot at this. This isn't like New Line trusting Peter Jackson with LORD OF THE RINGS, hell... Peter made great films, low budget and no-budget as they may have been, but his movies were adored with reason. Here you have a filmmaker that makes films that never ever allow story and character to rise above design. He has zero sense about how to tell a story that flows, that moves, that truly involves the audience on any level other that... Huhuhuhuh... That was kinda cool... Moments, tiny moments here and there. He's had GIGANTIC budgets and pissed them away. With SOLDIER he had one of the hands down best genre scripts ever to be greenlit, and he had the right cast and a great DP and he still managed to fuck it all up. This guy has no bright spots in his past, no gleaming pearls of hope. And I have no reasons to hate the man, I'm sure he's quite charming... But his films... Dear God. I mean, look... Here's how I found out that he had been given the job... Read through these...
Hi Harry,
Don't know if you heard about this yet! The fuckers are talking of getting
Anderson to fuck this up for them, the titbit they give about script sounds
like no A vs. P storyline I've ever read. Bastards, they're all bastards.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/15/film.alien.reut/index.html
Hope it's of use!
Emmett
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Saw this on the UK's teletext page
(http://www.teletext.co.uk/Bigscreen/newsstory.asp?intSubSectionID=7&intarti
cleid=61084)
"Reviving a couple of old horrors
Resident Evil's Paul Anderson will direct Fox's long-delayed sci-fi horror
Alien Vs Predator.
Alien is based on the Sigourney Weaver-starring franchise monster that
bleeds acid. Predator is the dreadlocked hunting alien that gave Arnold
Schwarzenegger so much grief in Predator (1987).
The project has been under discussion for about a decade. Now Fox wants to
refresh both ailing franchises.
The plot sees a bunch of boffins on a distant planet turned into dinner
after genetic experiments on Predator and Alien life forms go awry.
The movie will be fashionably rooted in the videogame Aliens Vs Predator.
But questions may be raised by fans of the game about the selection of
Anderson (pictured) as director.
His Resident Evil was panned. This project will parallel the Superman Vs
Batman game. "
God save us all.
If you use this, sign me off as "Big Ben - the man with no time for crime"
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Paul "Not Fucking Boogie Nights" Anderson's Next Gig
Taken from Gamespot.com
Paul Anderson, the man behind the game-based film Resident Evil, will write and direct a film based on the popular Aliens vs. Predator sci-fi action games for 20th Century Fox, according to a report on Variety. The film will be developed by the producers of the Aliens and Predator film series. The story will follow a human scientist who hatches alien eggs on a distant planet in order to attract predators.
Regards,
JacktheBlade
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Bad news
*Sigh*
Sorry guys, but it says on Dark Horizons that Paul Anderson has been
confirmed as the director for Aliens vs. Predator.
I weep. You Weep. We all FUCKING WEEP!!
Praying to Dagon that this is one of those things that proves to be false.
Harry -- PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING!!!!
The man cannot make good movies, there's something wrong with him down to
the DNA.
MooveeBoy out.
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Aliens v Predator - SPEAK OUT DAMMIT!
Harry,
I've been coming to this site daily since pre-Starship Troopers Incident. I've only written to you a few times, years ago. But....
WHEN WILL YOU SPEAK OUT ON THIS FUCKING AvP TRAVESTY?!!!!!!!!
Thank You,
Martin S
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Harry
I have never written to u b4, but I am compelled! Paul Anderson cannot get
the AVP gig! This guy took Mortal Combat and shagged it from here to
oblivion when all he had to do was add substance and a bit of character
development, he had Res Evil which should have made an excellent Sci Fi
horror flick, I mean for fucks sake a zombie movie? With that Budget? just
imagine what Sam Raimi or Peter Jackson could have done with it, not to
mention the likes of indie filmmakers from the UK like Shane Meadows or
Danny Boyle. This guy has managed to make pigs ear's out of every single
silk purse he has been generously handed. He should be locked in straight to
video hell where he belongs! What can be done? Save us Harry
Nick
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Hey Harry,
SPYder, here.
I was surprised I didn't see this on your site this morning. Variety ran a
piece about "Alien vs. Predator" today. They've gone and done it... Paul
Anderson has been hired to write and direct Avs.P.
Dang it.
Here's an excerpt:
HOLLYWOOD -- Talk about a clash of the titans: Producers John Davis, David
Giler, Lawrence Gordon, Walter Hill and Joel Silver have brought aboard
"Resident Evil" helmer Paul Anderson to write and direct "Alien vs. Predator"
for 20th Century Fox.
Davis, Gordon and Silver come to the project via "Predator," which was
released in 1987 and starred Arnold Schwarzenegger. Giler and Hill produced
the first four installments of the "Alien" franchise.
Like "Resident Evil," however, this film has its roots in a popular
videogame. Fox Interactive published "Aliens vs. Predator" in 1999 and
released its sequel, "Aliens vs. Predator 2," last year.
Pic is the tale of human scientists on a distant planet who, once again, make
the mistake of experimenting on aliens and predators. Story centers on a
scientist who foolishly hatches alien eggs to create an environment
attractive to predators.
Credits for the U.K.-born Anderson also include "Mortal Kombat," "Event
Horizon" and "Soldier." He's repped by ICM.
There's more, but it's just a rundown on the producer's credits.
Could have sworn I heard your bellowing rage as I read this, but maybe I was
just projecting my own sense of frustration. This is the guy who made
"Resident Evil" using zombies that looked like "Thriller" rejects instead of
spending some coin and making them look like they did in the game (you know,
all cool and gory and exposed skeletal structure, and lots of decay).
Anyhow, I can only hope that with the number of producers on this thing that
they actually can wrangle together some bank and make this thing at least
look cool.
If Paul Anderson is reading this, perhaps he will realize that this film is
his shot at fan redemption? Probably not. It doesn't matter. They keep hiring
him, even after "Event Horizon." As long as you keep getting hired, you
probably think you're doing alright.
-- SPYder, out.
P.S. full article is on variety.com at:
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=story&articleid=VR1117869705&
categoryid=13&cs=1
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Did you see this?
http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?4029
Paul Anderson??? Why are 20th Century Fox giving Alien
V's Predator to the guy that is responsible for Mortal
Kombat, Soldier and Resident Evil???
Call me
Duncan Ferguson
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Hey Harry,
Well, looks like über-hack Paul Anderson will direct the big screen adaption of Aliens vs Predator after all. At least, that's what Variety reports:
"Talk about a clash of the titans: Producers John Davis, David Giler, Lawrence Gordon, Walter Hill and Joel Silver have brought aboard "Resident Evil" helmer Paul Anderson to write and direct "Alien vs. Predator" for 20th Century Fox. "
Brilliant, just brilliant.
-superdave
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That's the instant reaction by fans, the folks that read not just AICN, but EMPIRE, VARIETY, DARK HORIZON, GAMESPOT and that's just the tip of the iceberg. If ever there was a director that cried out for bad TV science-fiction directing gigs, its this guy. It is literally just sickening that this has happened. I don't hold much hope for FOX changing their minds, they'll learn the hard way. They'll pump tens of millions of dollars into this tumor and watch it grow inoperable. They'll bump the release date twice after bad testing. They'll struggle with reshoots, the marketing campaign will kick ass, the film will not have advance critic screenings. The opening weekend will be strong based upon that marketing campaign, but with high 50's to mid 60% drop offs on the second and third weeks.
Well, maybe after these executives all lose their jobs in the next 5 or so years, perhaps the next generation of suits will learn from their mistakes. These things are cyclical. We just have to ride the stupidity on out, and maybe they'll evolve... But then... Cockroaches never evolve... Fucking vermin.
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The only PA movie I ever saw was Mortal Kombat. I don't want to rush to judgment on this one though. Just to save future headaches, please don't anyone confuse Paul with Wes (Tenenbaums/Bottle Rockets) or Paul Thomas (Magnolia) Anderson. Word
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I guess there's nothing we can do about this, so we'll just have to sit back and wait. But if he does direct this and produces another turkey, then I'll kill him. Don't fuck up one of the most anticipated films in years!
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They should do Predator meets Twins meets Kindergarten Cop.
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I have been astounded at the level of animosity directed at Paul Anderson from Harry and a little irritated by it - - - until now!!!
I liked "Event Horizon" and I liked "Resident Evil" until last week on a whim, I bought the DVD for "Night of the Living Dead" which I suddenly realized I had never seen in my 32 years.
I have now ordered all of the Romero films available on DVD and imported the other two "...Dead" films to hold me over until Anchor Bay puts them out next summer.
George A. Romero should have been the man behind "Resident Evil," but then again, why should he make a movie that he re-hashes his best ideas?
We certainly need more Romero and less Anderson.
That said, come on you guys, who really gives a shit about "Aliens vs. Predator?" What a fucking stupid idea? I don't see how this could be a cool movie at all.
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John Davis, David Giler, Lawrence Gordon, Walter Hill and Joel Silver. How can producers of this calibre make such a shit decision? Did the Fox "suits" have the final say?
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I didn't like the idea that Dutch and gang lived in the same universe as Ripley, and kinda hoped they'd stay separate. I love both Predator and Alien (and Aliens) so it had to be done right. BUT now Paul Fucking Anderson is on board it's just become 100% the shittest idea EVER! You reading this Anderson?! You won't prove me wrong!!! You'll fuck it up!!! Run away before i kill you!!!
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Is Alien Vs. Predator as stupid as Superman Vs. Batman?
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Sorry but I really cant see what you people are complaining about. 'Soldier' is a really good film. So was 'Event Horizon'. Seems to me that SF/Horror is ideal for Anderson so give the man a break. For f*cks sake just cos you cant have Speilberg or Cameron doesnt mean it wont be a great movie... Lighten up for f*cks sake! It might actually be good!
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Can Soldier really have been such a good script?! The film was really really bad, and not just crap but with good dialogue or anything. Kurt Russel only spoke 20 words in the whole film!
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Jul 16, 2002 8:02:12 AM CDT
Who cares who's directing it, Aliens versus Predator is the
by wee willie
They started making old tv series into movies.
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While never being a fan of this crossover I am particularly pissed of at Anderson for the shite that was SOLDIER. Then there's those fuckers at FOX...I don't know if you have this problem stateside but in Oz FOX are one of the only companies that insist on doing rental DVD then releasing the movies for sale 3 - 6 months later (sometime totally devoid of extras). eg Vanilla Sky, JSBSB etc. Curse the marketers of the world for the profit maximising that is ruining the game for everyone!
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Hmm, they've really fucked this one up. Gotta say tho, i thought Event Horizon is absolutely brilliant, I just somehow cannot reconcile this with the fact that Anderson shat out the god-awful Soldier. What in the name of sweet fucking Christ was he thinking? And what the fuck was Harry thinking: "one of the best genre scripts"?? Toilet, it was absolute fucking toilet. How can we let Fox rampage on with their sacreligious bullshit? This news has ruined my day.
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In every article about this socalled director, Harry mentions the wonderful Soldier-script. I mean not only was the film utter crap, but I thought the whole story was a load of bullshit. How can you make a good script with this story? But since I
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Listen, build a bridge and get over it. So much bitching. Lets see what happends with this movie. I am just excited to see this movie happen... stop the whining people!
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I've waited so long for this movie to happen. I've had dreams,... actual dreams of seeing this project come to life on the big screen with the right people involved. I can't believe it's all going to end with Paul 'Fucking Hack' Anderson. Why? Can somebody answer that? Does anyone have a fucking clue as to why Fox would gamble with something so expensive, something that has earth shattering, mind blowing potential? Don't get me wrong, I've actually enjoyed some of Paul Anderson's movies in the past. Mortal Kombat was fun, Event Horizon was fun, Soldier... I didn't much care for... but Resident Evil was fun. He makes entertaining popcorn flicks, matinee priced brain candy, Michael Bay minus the smoke and mirrors and MTV style editing. He makes 'fluff' entertainment. Alien Versus Predator is not... IS NOT... fluff entertainment! I didn't hate the guy because he never touched a property or had any involvement with a project that was near and dear to my heart. Resident Evil was a great ride despite the absence of George Romero (who should have directed it). Plus, it had the potential to be much cooler if a sequel was ever hatched (that last shot was a great set-up and probably the best visual image that the movie had to offer other than a near nude Milla Jovovich). But this is too much. This crosses the line. This hits too close to home. Fuck that, this hits closer... this landed in my fucking backyard. I've posted here many times, usually with something positive to say, but this is the one time that I really feel the need to vent. This is it, we've hit the point of no return and there's nothing that any of us can do (except maybe to pray that this has a quick and painless death). Paul Anderson, if you ever read this, you had better summon whatever strength, whatever talent regardless of how little and harness all of that energy into a little ball. Use it. Feed off of it. Prove me wrong and don't fuck this up. Don't get Marilyn Manson to score this. Don't write the script all by yourself. Don't you dare use a 'Techno' score and don't fail the fans. We will come after you and make the Zombie horde from Resident Evil look like a quiet stroll in the park.
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not the producers, you guys. lets do the corporate crap first... they hired the only guy to make films based on video games that fans of the games *liked* and that were also financially succesful to direct a film based on a popular video game? he's two for two. the producers are not idiots. the guy is a gamer. i am a gamer, i write for 3d action planet and as much as you all want to call this a comic book adaptation it isn't. the games got this greenlit. it's based on games based on a film. of course they picked paul. he has a proven record. now before you all get mad at me, i love romero more and am with the person who wants to see more romero films. romero wanted to adapt the resident evil story for cinema. capcom and the producers wanted something *within* the resident evil plot line that didn't contradict anything in the games. the film itself was not bad because of paul anderson. it was not his decision to go for a pg-13 (which they didn't manage). as for the look of the zombies, how much do you think happens to a dead body in a few hours? you think all the skin falls off? nope. the game is set a few months after the film, hence the difference in decay of *some* of the zombies. as for the film, i thought it was ok to good. not great, but as a fan of the resident evil series it told a lot of interesting back story to the story arc of the games. there seems to be a fair few people at AICN who hop on any bandwagon where harry vehementally bashes someone. so get this. i am a gamer. i am a geek. i am a paid writer. anderson is not a brilliant film maker. he is a succesful adaptor of computer games to films, which is what he's doing again here. and i'm one of those people that liked event horizon. i'd say between that and resident evil he could make a decent aliens vs predator. sure he isn't an a list director but guys, as much as we love those franchises, what do you expect? it isn't as if games to films are a lucrative business usually. that is, unless paul anderson has been involved and furthermore, if you think mortal kombat was bad (and it really was liked by a vast chunk of fans of a the game) watch what happened to the series after he left. yeah soldier was a waste, but if you really can't understand why he's making this film you need to not just look at what you thought of his films, but what gamers (who spend a lot of money, games having made more money than the film industry for the last few years) thought, and what kind of box office they took. incidentally, hi, i write for http://www.3dactionplanet.com and i've stayed off talkbalk for a long time because i knew i'd get caught up in mammoth posts like this. don't be surprised if you see me spooging elsewhere. and finally, maybe you can get this idea into your heads... all that this film has is a director and you're saying it's going to be crap. nice to see that you think people can never ever improve. foxy
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This entire concept of a movie is faulty to begin with. Who really cares (outside of some social-lite geeks) who directs it?
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with all the movie communtiy sites in up roar at Fox's decision i reckon someone good put together maybe up to 10,000 name petition against Fox's decision.
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Resident Evil was WORTHLESS. It was sheer pain to sit through the first half (luckily, I merely downloaded it and deleted the second part before my eyes and brain were scarred from it all). We shall overcome the stupidity. We shall overcome. I hope they all lose their jobs, they're all fucking idiots, it's not just FOX, WB is guilty too. SONY is a little smarter, though, I believe.
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interesting to see, how Harry style developed. Nevertheless I would love to know more about the original soldier script... http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=2365
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.....since I heard the news yesterday! Paul Anderson is a bad, bad, bad maker of films. Lets not beat around the bush..HE SUX ASS! He manages to take material that sounds so cool in the development and pre-production stages and turn itinto mediocre, at most, films. Can you imagine if Singer or Raimi had made Mortal Kombat or Ridley Scott had made Event Horizon or Jim Cameron had made Soldier? They would be awesome movie experiences, the material was that good. Anderson makes every film look like it's being shot on a sound stage. The production design on every one of his films looks fake and overdone. You always feel you are watching a bunch of actors on a sound stage and that is the ultimate "diss" to any filmmaker. Now he has AvP. Two of the most iconic movie monsters ever created from two of the best science fiction franchises ever created. There is still a massive audience for Alien and Predator so the guy will have to do something really really bad to fuck this one up. The story seems to be similar to that of the AvP Dark Horse comic which was fucking awesome and would make a great film so all Anderson has to do is put these two monsters on screen, make the supporting characters believable and the surroundings look real and bingo $200m here we come. Can't be that hard can it, Paul? Can it? CAN IT!!!
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Harry made the point that the studio has ignored talkbacks on this subject, and has obvious contempt for the fan community. Maybe so, but without wishing to sound like I'm supporting Fox on this one, I'm really not completely surprised. The average AICN talkback these days seems to quickly descend into a torrent of hatred and name calling against stars, directors etc, and fellow talkbackers. It seems some people are scared to give their own opinions for fear of ridicule by the more agressive talkbackers. Thankfully there are lots of posts giving intelligent well written opinions on the given subjects, but I think their credibility is being seriously undermined by these other venemous posts.
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but a big one. both AvP and it's sequel sold big in the game world. not to mention the fans of alien and it's sequels and the two predator films. what confuses me about this backlash is this... paul anderson has shown that if nothing else he can be *true to the originals* and that stands for a lot to genre fans. if he makes a decent action flick that doesn't outstep and contradict the franchises then i think most of us will be happy. with mortal kombat and resident evil he's shown that he is faithful to other peoples properties. he isn't going to throw in three headed aliens with twelve arms and make up new stupid things like hulk dogs (he he). to be honest getting a fan of the films who will be true to them should be a pretty celebrated thing. it's what we demand on every other project. anyway you know how i see it? it's aliens vs predator. it isn't high art. it's meant to be a fun action film with two warring enemy races, adrenalin, scary, popcorn movie. i think anderson can pull it off. it won't be alien. it won't be aliens either, but it could still be a decent film. oh and, i even have a casting suggestion. someone who worked with anderson before and certainly shone in the aliens esque dog soldiers... sean pertwee. foxy
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Why would either of those directors want to do Aliens vs Predator? Give it up people, PA was probably the best they could get for this. Maybe in your fanboy wet-dreams someone big like woo would direct this, but not in the real world. They probably shopped it to every director in town and got laughed at. As far as PA goes, screw all of you. Mortal Kombat was good, even if you dont think so. Resident Evil was ok and so was Event Horizon. Soldier sucked, so what, name a director who doesn't have a stinker in their resume. If you think you're so much better than him, go direct your own AvP, but until then, he's got the support of a whole movie studio and YOU DON'T. And Harry, this all just goes to prove that your dumb ass has ABSOLUTELY NO PULL in Hollywood. Bitch about directors all you want, keep believing they make desicions based on your site and your talkbacks, it's all BS. You're just an internet movie critic and nothing more.
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Hey all.
This is my first time writing and I'm sorry that it must be in response to such terrible news.
Anderson's helming of Alien Vs Predator will be mean certain death to a potentially brilliant movie, nay franchaise. But the ramifications could be even worse than we fear.
I read an interview in Empire magazine a few months back, in which Ridley Scott expressed an interest in returning to the Alien story, before the first movie. Alien Episode 1, if you will.
Surely with the next installment in the hands of this fuckwit, the chance of an Alien prequel must be as rare as rocking horse shit.
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This is news beyond bad news. This is like someone running up to you in the street, telling you your Mother just died, then telling you that the person who killed her just won the lottery and got off scott free, and then being kneed in the balls. It sucks that bad.
Dr_Foxy, I don't care if you do write for 3DActionPlanet, what you said was complete bullshit. He is NOT a successful coverter of games to film, he is not in anyway deserving of having his name placed in the same sentence as the word successful. Those movies DID NOT please the majority of gamers, in fact, the games that movies are based upon are often the worst choices possible. There's so much untapped creative ideas, stories and characters in the videogame world that movies getting made about Mortal-fucking-Kombat and Tomb Raider are just insulting. This will no doubt set back the acceptance of videogames as a respectable creative medium another 15 years. This time, it's different. This time, he is not only pissing of gamers by bringing to the screen a movie version of one of the only well done Movie/Comic/Whatever to Game conversions ever, but he's also gonna piss off the fans of the comic, the fans of the previous films, and people who don't like to walk out of a film feeling like someone just sucker punched them in the stomach.
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I mean, come on, this is just a pathetic sci-fi movie crossover that everyone will blindly go to see because of the hype and 20th Century Fox will pocket all the cash. I'll PASS.
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and get it confused and then let themselves get upset about it, it's actually kind of funny. i never said that gamers liked mortal kombat and resident evil, but that the mortal kombat fans and the resident evil fans liked those respective films, which is totally different. twice he has at least satisfied fans of that franchise. neither are brilliant, but they both did the job. read around a few community sites, game specific ones to see what the fans of those franchises thought. a franchise is only as big as the last film's box office. neither predator 2 or alien ressurection (and alien 3) were huge and that's why this film has been in pre production hell for so long. frankly, i'll take what we can get. if we can get a paul anderson ok to good, true to the prequels kind of action piece that's a damn site better than the load of nothing we'd get otherwise.
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What kind of pathos are you expecting from Aliens vs. Predator. The whole concept is fucking lame and this movie will be lame no matter who directs it. Why would you want to sully the reputation of a good director by having him or her do crap like this? Anderson is a perfect choice really... his movies are shallow as hell, but they look pretty cool. Looking cool is the only thing this movie will have going for it. If it doesn't look cool then people won't see it.
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You guys take this stuff WAY too seriously. Think of it this way - Bride of Frankenstein is considered a classic, and Wolfman is considered a classic, but Frankenstein vs. the Wolfman is campy fun. Let's go over the equation again with different values. Godzilla (original)=classic. King Kong (original)=classic. Godvilla vs. King Kong=campy fun. And btw, to you hardcore gamers: your opinion on film adaptions matters even less than a comic book geek's. Trust me. sk
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After watching Reign of Fire, I couldn't help but think about Soldier and how truly fucking awesome it could have been. Resident Evil wasn't bad, but it sure as hell wasn't a zombie movie. Face it, Anderson just isn't a very good action director and this needs to be the "balls to the wall", "race car in the red, action flick that we've wanted for years. David Twohy would have been perfect for this. I vote with my cash, and I think this sucks. So when it turns in mediocre reciepts, they'll know why. To the bonehead who gave the greenlight, Jam it up your ass... sideways. That's all I have to say 'bout that.
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I saw Paul Anderson when I worked at a film festival where they were screening Mortal Kombat for the first time in the UK. The girls had taken him to dinner and remarked he couldn't help staring at their breasts. He had the appearance of a scruffy, bespectacled geek - except he gets to write and direct sci-fi movies. He's a geek living the dream, so I don't think even Harry should be giving him THAT much stick.
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I agree with Mr B - no studio is gonna listen to talkbacks/forum, especially when the flames and uncontrolled hatred is rampant - and with Badtz - that Harry is losing clout with them - which is kinda bad, cause true fans do matter. I want AvP to be good cause the comic book series was good too. If it's just based on the video game, then it's gonna be just another Resident Evil. Anyway, the only way to convince the suits is with money. They should just take a look at IMDB's figures on PA's movies. A quick rundown: Resident Evil (2002) - Budget $33m - Opening Weekend - 2nd $17.707m - Gross - $39.532m (5 May 2002). Soldier (1998 - Budget $75m - Opening Weekend - 2nd - $6.447m - Gross $14.567m (6 December 1998). Event Horizon (1997) - Opening Weekend - 2nd - $9.511m - Gross - $26.616m (26 October 1997). Mortal Kombat (1995) - Budget $20m - Gross $70.36m (to date). Not good figures for big Hollywood studios. Considering that Aliens and Predator both have film, novel and comic history, pissing off the fans won't be good and the word of mouth can really crash the movie, despite a good opening weekend. Hope this might off chance be read by someone who might know someone who might know someone who could have influence (just another 3 degrees short of Kevin Bacon).
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Jul 16, 2002 9:17:46 AM CDT
Now, MK was the best video game to movie translation ever create
by terry_1978
and that's really saying something, ya know? It wasn't perfect, but it had the mythology and characters down pat, and barely took any liberties concerning the game's storyline.
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Flame away bitches
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No matter who they got to direct this it was going to be a disappointment. Fandom has stoked it's potential over the years to such a fevered extent that it could never live up to the dreams of what people want.
This guy DOES make shit films - no doubt about that - but even with a dream cast and a director with Big Balls it would still fail. Some things are best left unrealised. -
"Well, maybe after these executives all lose their jobs in the next 5 or so years, perhaps the next generation of suits will learn from their mistakes. These things are cyclical. We just have to ride the stupidity on out, and maybe they'll evolve... But then... Cockroaches never evolve... Fucking vermin."
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cute. fact... unless you're a hollywood movie mogul or respected critic, your opinion doesn't count any more or less than anyone elses. and those box office receipts aren't all bad. mortal kombat is pretty impressive and remember they are just domestic. 70 + big ones for a 20 million film is pretty damn good. resi only just came out in europe last weekend so it still has a way to go yet. profit = profit. they greenlit the resi sequel already remember? last i checked films with unsatisfactory box office didn't get sequels. don't get me wrong, i'd love to see fincher do this. i'd love to see twohy... i could go on, but it isn't happening. and i'm not just a game geek either. or i wouldn't be here silly. i'd love to see cameron's terminator 3. i'd love to see the day of the dead that never was. i'd love to see mullholland drive as a tv series... but i can't. i'll settle for what we get, and aliens vs predator is not going to be seen as anything other than an action sequel based on a succesful game based on two film franchises that aren't doing enough box office. hollywood will go for someone with a proven financial track record at this sort of film. that's what they've done. they wouldn't put a talented maverick on it as much as we want it. but hey, let's not make out that this isn't anything different to freddy vs jason, frankenstein vs the wolfman and king kong vs godzilla. you want to decide that it's going to be the worst film ever and hurt the two franchises drastically (one already long dead and the other not far off). i want to see aliens vs predator. i'll wait until it's out before i start criticising the director for a job he hasn't started. foxy
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I bought the original Alien Vs Predator Graphic Novel in around 1992...I never played any wanky pc game in 1999. If they make this film at all (shitty-assed director attached or not) they should base it on that book. It at least had a plausable reason for the two races to smack into each other with humans in the mix...This film will shit upon our hopes.
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is exactly what has enabled this film to finally get rolling. the game and it's sequel are both very succesful. avp 2 has a great story that interweaves between the three seperate campaigns. one of the best games in a story actually. a long time ago a script based on the original dark horse avp series (that you have collected in your graphic novel) was passed around and sadly repeatedly passed on. frankly the franchises would have pretty much been seen as dead but the good sales of the games has shown fox that people still care about them.
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In Fairness, is he really all that bad? I know he's a hack for hire but no worse than any MTV video director out there and he has produced some nice visuals (Event Horizon?). Resident Evil has just been release here in Ireland and I went along to see it with little or no expectation. Well ya see I have a weakness for movies about vampires, werewolves, zombies and heists (a movie about a bunch of vamps trying to heist something from a gang of werewolves in the middle of a plague of zombies being my dream movie). All these movies get a pass from me. I'm willing to admit that over the years this policy has led to my being exposed to some of the worst shit ever committed to holy celluloid but every now and again a little gem rolls along, Lost Boys, Dog Soldiers, and .... wait for it ... Resident evil. Yes I said it, Resident Evil does the business. I am not claiming it as a classic or as art, but it entertained me for a couple of hours and was the first film to genuinely make me jump since Blair witch Project. It looked good and it pumped along at a cracking pace with enough gore and nudity to keep me entertained. It wasn't incoherent, it looked good the acting was credible and nothing about it said if you put the right script in front of this director he would make a bad move out of it. I have heard alot of shit about Soldier, but frankly Harry get's up on his high horse (poor horse) a little too often. I have read Romero's script for Resident Evil, it's freely available on the net and let me tell you, it is a risable peace of formulaic shit. All the basic elements of the current script are there with a little more gore, but all I can say is thank god the script got a few more polishes before it wen't before a lens because Romero seems like he has sadly run out of any original ideas. Finally, AVP is not placing a work of great litrature in the hands of Paul Anderson. It's a popcorn flick fer chrissakes!
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Im tired of this Cusade against Paul Anderson.I dont understand Harrys hate against him.I enjoyed Mortal Kombat,and Resident Evil is considered the best Computer Game adaptation,it was really good.
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Im sorry I agree his other films sucked everything bigtime. But I really liked Event Horizon.
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Jul 16, 2002 10:14:00 AM CDT
Why even bother...one Predator could take out the queen and her
by batman_9
i mean come on, unless you're major dutch, that cop from L.A. or Batman, you ain't taken out a predator. this movie does have potential though. or it did until paul anderson signed on. did i read that he would WRITE and direct? goodness. based on a video game? what the hell, why not base it on the comics? damn paul at least go back and watch the films! this had better be handled with care...don't give us damn MORTAL KOMBAT: ALIENS VS PREDATORS sheet. i want serious dramatic stuff with awesome and gruesome battles between the beasts. i mean this can't be to hard. look at cameron's marines from ALIENS or mcterrian's (i think he directed that) soldiers from PREDATOR..thats what we need here. gosh i can see this now, its going to be RESIDENT EVIL on another planet for the first hour, then MORTAL KOMBAT the last hour. heck why not splice the two films together and super impose the creatures images from the other movies onto the film. nah that would be a better movie than whatever comes out of this doomed project.
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It wasn't fantastic, but it was a neat idea, decent special effects and good acting. Plus, they had the cajones to NOT do the happy happy ending. I'd watch it again. If I were really looking forward to a Predators vs Aliens movie, I'd be more concerned about the fact that they chose to base it on the VIDEO GAME, a first person shooter, I seem to recall, instead of one of the many comic book / "graphic novel" plots that have been written.
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It could have been worse. I think Paul Anderson deserves a shot at this. While his movies are never great. THey are never bad. I actually like the resident evil movie a lot and thought he captured the spirit of the game well. Anyone who wasn't pumped by that ending is a fanboy zombie. I loath Mortal Combat mainly because I saw the sequel first. I thought Event Horizon ha real tension, although it failed to deliver, but it had some geniune scary moments. Soldier was not a bad movie at all. Especially the montage sequence with Kurt Russell's soldiers fighting on different planets. The guy practically invented the techno action genre. Maybe this is a dream project for him (what director wouldn't love to helm this baby) and he'll approach with a love he hasn't shown yet. I actually think Paul Anderson may grow as an artist. This could be the one that wakes the guy from his coma.
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He may not have the best track record, but it could be worse: the movie not being made at all. There is a lot of commentary about the Resident Evil movie actually being good (I am one who says this too). In fact, its pretty much accepted that it is the best video game->movie adaptation out there. And to tell you the truth, I also enjoyed Event Horizon. Sure, Soldier sucked, but just because a few of his movies sucked doesnt necessarily mean all of his movies will suck too. Give the man a chance!
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Jul 16, 2002 10:27:12 AM CDT
Paul Anderson and Freddie Prinze should get together and make a
by reverendz
Then Harry could have a coronary and realize that all this silly stuff is not worth getting into a tizzy over. Anderson is a competent director who has consistently turned out a decent, profitable movie (except for soldier, which I think lost money, but what do I know?). **** The incessant bashing of certain individuals by Harry is weird and a little scary. I mean, Anderson really is not all that different then Del Toro. I'm sorry, but Blade II was enjoyable but nothing to go crazy over. Yet Harry wrote a gushing, practically pornographic review of Blade II. C'mon Knowles, be nice, these people are working guys who made it to the show.
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i bet PA's AvP is decent enough, i'll be there fucking opening night. i even hope freddie prinze is in it, just so everyone can make funny versions of his name and hate on him just because harry does. ridiculous.
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We know PA is a Capcom fan. He did after all do the Resident Evil movie. So what if he had a throwback to the AvS video game. No not the crappy First-Person shooter... I am talking about the arcade beat-em up. At least with that story line, it would have someone play the uber-babe Lt. Linn Kurosawa. It would also be an excuse to bring back Arnold Schwarznegger as Maj. Dutch Schaefer. That is of course, if PA uses that storyline.
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Harry probably called PA and asked to come to his set and he said no, just like Freddie Prinze JR.
bottom line: If your a friend of Harry like Robert Rodriguez, Giullermo Del Toro, or Peter JAckson... you can poop in basket and throw on a silver screen and Harry will rave for you. Blade2 was one the weakest movies I've seen, anytime you have to make your movie like Aliens, you've run out of creative juice. If Harry tries to pimp Spy Kids 2 anymore I'm going to puke. I'm going to leave Peter Jackson alone because he is a GOD. The other two aren't hacks but they're in a slump.
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There is nothing I can't tell you bout Anderson that I havent already said to you a bunch of times before Harry. Perhaps Soldier was a flop. But thats down to the script and the studios not the director. Every director must know failure before he can know success. Anderson has experinced this and has had his low points. Now the only way is up. And remember "a little faith goes a long way".
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...that's wes and PT, by the way...but i think this guy deserves a break. 'mortal kombat' was cool rockin' fun, and 'event horizon' gave me a solid case of the whim-whams. but harry's right: 'soldier' is a steenky steamer that could have been supercool in the right hands. and as for 'resident evil', c'mon: the producers were never gonna allow a truly bloody, balls-to-the-wall zombie flick, and anderson did the best he could in these PG-13 times. would i have preferred a hard-R 'resident evil', minus the lame-ass 'matrix' ripoffs but plus mucho milla nudity? hell yeah, but sometimes you take what you can get. and that's the case with 'aliens vs predator'. personally speaking, i think it's a fucked concept - keep the two universes separate, i say! but if you must do it, and it appears that fox must jump on the 'versus' bandwagon, get someone else in to write the damn thing, OK? anderson's not a bad director but his scripting needs work. but if five-tone was in charge over at fox, we'd be seeing guillermo del toro or christophe gans directing 'alien 5' and robert rodriguez's 'predators' before any of this cripple-dick crossover shit. in short, 'AvP' was a bad call from day one, and it's basically getting the calibre of director it deserves. still, let's cut anderson some slack - he just might deliver on this one.
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Jul 16, 2002 10:50:31 AM CDT
hey, cmndwedge, remember when you wrote "please kill me" in your
by tommy5tone
I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO JUST THAT, YOU STUPID CUNT! DON'T YOU KNOW BETTER THAN TO FUCK UP THE FORMATTING WITH LONG POSTS??? FUCK OFF AND DON'T COME BACK TILL YOU LEARN A LITTLE SOMETHING!!!
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But according to Harry " EIGHT LEGGED FREAKS the best thing since Pimento Cheese!". This should really put his opinion into context. I am sure Harry is a much better directer then PA, just look at his body of work, oh wait, there isnt any is there. The philosophy on this website is those who can not do, bitch. Didnt check out Resident Evil, but I'll rent it. I liked Event Horizon and I liked Mortal Kombat so I really dont see what the huge deal is here. Hopefully it will be a fun popcorn summer movie. Why not wait til you see to start bitching about it, damn this site i sso full of whiners who just wanna curse and complain, no wonder your not taken serioulsy.
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Jul 16, 2002 10:59:05 AM CDT
Anderson must be the greatest cocksucker in the world - nay, the
by weedymcsmokey
It must be the case, everything else he is associated with sucks - so he probably sucks himself. Slurp, slurp Paul.
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There's a lof of venom floating around these talkbacks towards ole PA. But to sum up the better points that were made: 1) The AvP script HAS been floating around Hollywood for over a decade without any success. (So SHUT UP. It's finally getting made.) 2) Paul's track record for movies from video games is actually a good one where each has turned a profit (and spawned sequels) (So SHUT UP! It's finally getting made!) 3) James Cameron or Ridley Scott or Sam Mendes or Akira Kurasawa would NEVER come near this no matter HOW good the script was. (SO SHUT UP!! IT"S FINALLY GETTING MADE!!) 4) I would have liked to see David Twohy attached to this as well. But he's not. (So I'm going to SHUT UP. Because it IS finally getting made.)
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Spot on Harry. I dont think fox like alien or predator. They killed the alien series with the last two movies now they are taking a bazooka to its dying embers and are nuking predator while they're at it.
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..and I'll damn well say it again. Why bother? I've got an old AvP script someplace with hover bikes and dud action set pieces, and ANOTHER moment in which a Predator relents and recognises humans as worthy warriors like in the end of Predator 2. In fact, he teams up with one... I REALLY hope this doesn't get made. Actually, scratch that - I hope it DOES get made but Paul "not the talented one" Anderson falls down a well and Robert Rodriguez gets the gig again, just SOMETHING so this shows respect to a pair of the coolest monsters in movies. Otherwise you may as well go with the obvious porno connections, and have the phallic Alien tongue fuck Predator in its vagina-like mouth, spouting acid and fluorescent blood all over the shop in a flood of symbolic sex-juice. That would be the only thing to make me wanna see ANYTHING else after the so-so resident Evil. "I've been a bad bad girl" - what kind of fucking computer says THAT? Answer: One scripted by a fuckwit. P$
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RE was actually very entertaining. I haven't played any of the games so I don't know the storyline, but overall it was a pretty fun movie. It was much better than that shit fest MIB2 (which I still can't beleive I paid money to see! WHY? WHY? WHY???) But Solider did suck. But I do agree, this movie will bomb. It may be a fanboy dream, but no one else in the real world cares anymore. It'll be D.O.A.
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You know how when a professional sports team signs a newly acquired free agent... the team general manager, president of operations, head coach, the player's agent and player himself are all interviewd and asked for comments for the upcoming season... what to expect, what to avoid, etc, etc.? Hell, they even throw televised press conferences to inaugurate the acquisition. Doesn't anyone feel FOX owes us one of these, with ol'Pauly himself sitting there up on the podium, next to his agent, a bunch of suits from FOX? Have'em get grilled with question after question... "Ummm, after your subpar performances in your the last previous cinematic endeavors, just what the hell do you plan to do with Aliens vs. Predator? And how would you promise us you won't make it SUCK???"
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Don't blame Paul Anderson for this... I mean, if you were in his shoes, you'd take the job. I'm pretty sure of that. This guy may be completely devoid of any talent, but he's not going to stand in front of Joel Silver and say: "Hmmm, ya know? I'm gonna pass on this, because I'm such a talentless hack. I mean, have you seen Event Horizon, Soldier and Resident Evil, mister Silver? I really fucked up there bigtime!". Anderson is just doing what any (bad or good) director would do: he's trying to survive in that pit of agony we call Hollywood. Ultimately, the one to blame for this ludicrous decision is Rupert Murdoch. Here's a man who doesn't know the difference between quality movies and Limburger cheese, but still rules supreme over every friggin' project Fox churns out every year. Firing Bill Mechanic was the dumbest thing he ever did. Mechanic at least had the guts to greenlight risky projects, like the budget-unfriendly Titanic (which made a fortune for mr. Murdoch by the way) or Fight Club. Not to mention that 'moustache' Bill is one of the friendliest persons you're likely to meet in the movie industry (at least, that's what I'm told). I'm sure HE wouldn't have offered this project to a hack like Anderson.
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but lets not knock harry hear either. sure the guy has strange tastes, but he is often enough on the money when he hasn't had any involvement one way or the other on the film. sometimes it's like he protects his earlier opinions by sticking to them. if you want to discredit him it's not much harder than this. he liked the haunting. now, if i asked everyone here to watch the haunting or event horizon i'd bet event horizon would get a fair few votes if not the win. everyone has different tastes, i just don't like to see people trashing a film where the script has barely been started. right now, it could be anything. good great mediocre crap worst film ever... anything. because it hasn't been made yet. realistically i think the best directed this could have got was someone like stephen norrington, but he's busy trying to get something, anything, off the drawing board. and hey, he made the terrible (but very stylishly made) death machine before blade. he improved too! it could happen. we could support the director. or we could make him overly defensive and 'i know better' by flaming him to high hell. we could try to help him or totally make him insecure. would you rather a confident or insecure director made this? think about it. foxy
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OK Mr Anderson. Looks like you've got your hands on two of the most brilliantly inspired Alien creatures ever devised by a human imagination. As far as I'm concerned, you've never made a film worthy of this franchise. I am willing to meet in the middle and give you atleast the benefit of the doubt, but if I see any fucking Matrix bullet time kicks, comic-relief flukes, Pred-aliens with dreadlocks, wise-cracking bullet-deflecting machomen, a guy in a wheelchair who survives or a PG-13 rating in a film where a facility/planet is being over-run by the two most effective killing machines in Sci-Fi history, I SWEAR I will nuke Newcastle. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do this one right!!!
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God people. I remember this same situation a year or so ago when Harry first found out this guy was directing Resident Evil.
Then the reviews started coming in. And the movie wasn't half bad.
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This just plain sucks. I can't even believe this guy gets a budget with all the talented people that could be working on this in hollywood. If there ever was a project that screamed robert rodrigez this would be it. Now I can officially say that I will never see an Aliens vs Predator movie. Before Anderson was tapped, there was hope I would.
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fox ignore the talkbacks because most of it is just illiterate, personal abuse. Event horizon sucks ass! Why? What didn
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I saw resident evil. I saw Soldier and Event Horizon. Although none of these movies are great, I liked them for what they were. In fact I really liked resident evil. Sorry if that bothers you asshole fanboys. So guess what? I think this guy will do just fine with Aliens Vs Predator. Couldn't be any worse than the morons that made Aliens 3 and Aliens 4 and my guess is that it will be better. I also welcome more stories from the Aliens or Predator series - there is alot to tell. I used to think Harry's voice was the voice of the common movie fan. Now I am convinced he is just another dumbass critic. Sorry Harry. I don't even want to name some of the movies I trusted you on that ended up sucking or movies I thought were excellent that you didn't like (hint: Minority Report). I think Spider-Man's uncle said it best: With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility.... You have failed Harry.
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He does movies nobody else would do. HE touches scrips others would not touch because they know the fans out there all have their own view on these computer games and they will not allow any deviation from their twisted view on these games.
AvP is sure to make its production costs but not much more because all fans just see it once and say "wow but it was way cooler the one time when i was on stage 10 and that alie......."
besides what is spiderman except some 100M $ darkman remake????
so someday there be a 200M $ remake of soldier or event horizon some upset in the media, maby someone licences comic superheroes into the script and then these movies are set to cash in.
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Dog Soldiers was his 1st film to direct, and it really rocked in an "Aliens" kind of way. Plus he's British and 32, isn't that what we want in a sci-fi action director? A word to FOX, just like some of the other posts said, the MOVIE itself is a horrible idea that hurts 2 of the greatest adult sci-fi franchises ever, please give both a chance to come back by themselves! But Anderson, all I have to say is if there is wall to wall guns and exploding Aliens and constant action we might not notice how bad you suck.
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The 'moron' who made Alien3 has also proved himself with Seven and Fight Club. The 'moron' who made Alien4 is the same moron who directed Delicatessen and Amelie. What the hell has Paul Anderson ever proved himself with? Event Horizon was an interesting idea turned into a colourful sub-mobius inspired haunted house in space movie with a really crap ending. Soldier was just an absolute travesty, whilst Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil managed to be films where the fucking games they were based on had a higher certificate! I mean, COME ON?!! What was the point of the bullet-time kick to the head of that dog? Did it serve any other purpose than giving the MTV-Popcorn crowd a cheap thrill? No no no. The Alien and Predator franchises deserve better than "a director who isn't THAT bad". And to the people who complain by saying 'Paul Anderson's the best AvP will get as far as directors go', then ok, if that is true then don't even bother making the damn thing. Alien3 put the lid on the franchise's coffin (thank you FOX suits), and Resurection hammered a few nails in. If Paul Anderson doesn't finaly shine like these FOX suits seem to think he's due to, then we can wave goodbye to both franchises forever. Ridley Scot directed, James Cameron produced Alien5? FORGET ABOUT IT.
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Hi kids. I've scrolled through this long list of talkbacks and had a couple additional thoughts. 1) The whole "adaptation" question. They may borrow story from the games for the script, but the idea of an Alien vs. Predator movie was around before the games came out. In fact, it's likely because the movie couldn't get going that the other incarnations of AVP were possible. The problem with these "vs." projects (like Freedy vs. Jason) is that they involve a lot of complex legal and producer wrangling. AVP was one that had been rumored and mulled over for a quite some time. The movie never got it together, so they did it in other media; comics and video games. I'll concede one point: if those other works failed to generate some bank, then the movie would have had an even harder time getting made. 2) The idea that you can't blame the director for the way a movie turns out. Baloney; if the movie rocks they take the glory. I was at Comic Con in San Diego right after X-Men came out. Bryan Singer came into the room and received the adulations of a conquering hero. Sam Raimi was at Con last year, showed us all a good five minutes of Spider-Man footage, and was adored by the geek-fan masses. It's kind of like being President: if the sh*t went down on your watch, you get the blame, but if stuff went right, you take the credit. It works both ways. When they go through the list of directors for a project, yes they take a look at past performance, but you know they meet with the prospective candidates and see what their vision for the project is. Anderson had to tell the PTB at Fox what he would do with this project. He has to have a vision. And remember, campers, he's been hired to write *and* direct AVP. That means he's doing double duty and is doubly involved with the creation as well as the execution of the project. So before you defend the man and say it's not all his fault if it sucks: he's the one building and steering the ship. If it crashes and burns a lot of it will be his fault. -- SPYder, out.
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Both of those Alien pictures were not near the quality of the first two and you know it. So what have you proven? You have proven they could make good movies and make bad ones. Which is exactly my fucking point, dillweed. For Harry and you punks to come out bashing this guy who has made some decent movies it seems hypocritical. Seriously. Do you think a name attached to a movie alone makes it good? I remember you junkies saying how good Mission Impossible 2 was going to be with John Woo directing. That movie stunk it up. Why don't you people use some of this negative energy to make suggestions to this director in hopes he will direct the movie in a fashion you would like instead of bashing him here and saying he sucks? Give the guy a freakin chance. Resident Evil was fun - real fun. What makes you think he can't improve upon that? He is already making a needed sequel to that movie. Can't wait. I happen to disagree that he is the hack you say he is. Sure he isn't the director of Fight Club but who the fuck was the Fight Club director that made Alien 3? Blech.
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I mean, come on! To dislike a couple of his movies is one thing, but saying he's never made a good one?! It's bad enough you spent months upon months bashing Resident Evil, and instead of actually writing out a full review to say WHY you hated it, you just blurted it out in a single sentence in some other article. Hell, Harry, you've given plenty of movies you hated full reviews! So Paul "The Needlessly Hated One" Anderson is taking the helm. My advice to you, Harry the Hutt, is to fucking SUCK IT UP and look forward to it. Heaven forbid, you just might end enjoying it. (What am I saying; you'll probably hate it just for the sake of hating it.)
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What I ment was that if directors of the calibre of Junet and Fincher manage to fuck up Alien films (although Fincher was fucked around by the suits), GOD ONLY knows what Anderson will do with the franchise!!
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Maybe no one cares about this movie, but there are a shitload of people who will. If handled correctly this could be an awesome movie a real pop corn munching rollercoaster of a summer blockbuster. It just needs a good script with sharp dialogue, and great characters. Paul Anderson doesn't really deliver on that score. Style over content is fine for pop videos and commercials but not movies!! The coolest movies have always had cool dialogue and characters, and movies can do not need to rely on effects and action to move it along if the have these things (Pulp fiction anyone? Grosse point blanke? Die hard 1 and 3 even). I am sick of turning up to the cinema each summer handing over my money and being dissapointed by phoned in shite from straight to video hacks - or even worse great directors who are turning up for the green (Rollerball remake??**?). This guy is not the man for the job - this project should be treated like a movie and not as another instalment in a lagging franchise come crappy movie - game - movie conversion. I hope fox loose shitloads on this - it'll serve them right.
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My meaing is clear too. Maybe someone can start off with a bad rep and get better. You are making an assumption that he can't and that your godly director Fincher can. I'm sorry I don't buy into it. I go into my movies with an open mind, I don't talk myself into hating them before I do it, and I rate a movie by how it makes ME feel. Resident Evil made me jump a few times, had a good story and left me wanting to see more. Event Horizon never pissed me off but it certainly didn't impress me. Mortal Kombat wasn't so much a stinkfest but again wasn't that impressive. Soldier wasn't that good but certainly not hate material for me. We all have our opinions I guess but Harry's hate campaigns are starting to make me sick. He's trying to kill movies on his site before they are even released, abusing his power as a movie critic on the internet, without even giving a movie a chance that he has never seen just because HE doesn't like the choice of director. I've been waiting a long time to see an AVP movie and damn right I am going to fight to see it made. Would I like Cameron to direct it? Sure! Is that going to happen? No. Fincher won't touch it after his Alien 3 tragedy. Twohy is busy with his own stuff. So the video game director who has been steadily improving gets it. Chances are he will get the budget he needs. Hopefully it will be a good movie and I won't be disappointed. At least I will give it a chance though, which is more than some of you sorry geeks will do.
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Thanks for completely ruining Resident Evil, which could have been a great series and an awesome film. Thanks for making Event Horizon and completely ripping off Solaris. Thanks for ruining another great genre film. You fucking hack.
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Hmmm...
Firstly Alien vs predator is not a lame idea. The nature of the Alien as the nastiest beastie in the universe and the predator as the ultimate hunter fit together perfectly. Add to that the constant thread in the Alien films that weyland-yutani want to breed and experiment with the Aliens and you have the perfect setting (ala the games) for them to meet.
Anyone who is a serious fan of these fox franchises already has pretty much got to grips with the notion that the Preds and the Aliens share the same universe.
and why shouldnt they?
after all they are the two of best and most convincing monsters in movie history.
The comics got silly true, with (the incredibly stupid) Superman vs aliens and even the (still very cool) batman versus predator. These would be terrible films, completely irrelevant and childish "what ifs?". But for me at least that was never the case it was really a matter of when rather than what if.
But my dissapointment when I heard that the captain of big budget mediocrity PTA was to direct. This guy is not only a hack but a "jobsworth", he does what the suits tell him.
Alien versus Predator does have the potential to "cheapen the franchise" as people have put it, with PTA at the helm this is a very likly possibility. You need someone who can turn trash into gold and PTA doesnt qualify.
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Sure, it is probably a fun videogame, but I don't see much cinematic potential. This thing would be a mess no matter who directed it -- the focus of the movie is conflict between two alien species...and what, the humans that we are supposed to care about are just caught in the crossfire or something? Or do we develop pathos for the Predators? The Aliens as a poor species fighting extinction? Maybe, maybe this could turn out okay if it had a miracle script...as for Paul Anderson, gee golly whiz, I don't really think he deserves all this vitriol. I certainly don't think he's proven himself a good director yet, but he probably made the most out of a Mortal Kombat movie, and Event Horizon was at least visually interesting. Soldier wasn't all that great, didn't see Resident Evil...obviously, this guy has a big problem with style over substance. Still, I don't understand why Harry and co. seem to have singled him out as the Hack above all hacks when there are plenty of other directors in Hollywood who are far worse... I mean, my most hated current directors are probably Michael Bay and Joel Schumacher, but I am not fixated on my disgust with them. So, yeah, Paul Anderson hasn't really proved himself yet in terms of making a film with much substance and character...but we're talking about Alien vs. Predator here. The very concept is pretty devoid of substance and character. I guess some people care about it, though. This must be sucky news for them although I wonder who they were hoping for to get the job. I don't think many good directos would willingly do this unless an undeniably amazing script was plopped into their laps first.
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Paul Thomas Anderson != Paul Anderson
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Jul 16, 2002 12:45:35 PM CDT
I've been waiting for this flick for over a decade - right n
by tall_boy
I remember reading the Aliens vs. Predator script by Peter Briggs and just loving it (I was younger at the time, but it was one of my first aint it cool news type of scoops - regardless of the quality of script). Again and again this project has been raised and dropped, raised and dropped. Anderson sticks in Genre flicks because he's good at it. (not great, but competent) The coolness of these franchises combined will overcome any pedestrian directing effort (and I'm guessing he'll be looking to prove himself too). Event Horizon was a solid sci-fi horror flick and I'll stand by it. Mortal Kombat was ok. Still haven't had a chance to see RE but want to. The point is, give the camera to a somewhat competent techincal director, stick fucking ALIENS VS. PREDATOR up there and I'll be #1 in line opening weeked. BTW, Harry bashing this guy every chance he gets is kinda getting rather tiresome.
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We all know you geeks are threatened because your beloved LoTR director has the same name as the other one. So fucking what. They have the same name - deal with it. Yea PTA is awesome. We all know that but stick to the subject. Oh and Jango, I happen to totally disagree with Resident Evil being a bad movie and ruining the francise. You likely never even played the game. It was a good movie.
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Jul 16, 2002 12:55:48 PM CDT
You are all high - P Anderson is a remarkably competent and tale
by zeddex
The feel, tone and direction of his films are always right on. He takes genre stories and makes really fun flicks out of them. They are F U N -remember that concept? ...and infinitely more watcheable than most of the big bidget genre stuff (episode II included!) The one thing I always feel from Paul Anderson films is that he is a true fan of the stuff. Coming from people who spend days debating on the merits of Independence Day and Armageddon, calling Paul Anderson a "Hack" shows your blindness to the enjoyment and history of science fiction and horror. To each his or her own but I, for one, am stoked about this news!
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I just don't get some of you. Since the dawn of time all I hear everywhere is 'Alien vs Predator is a crap idea - It will tank because the only people who will go and watch it are the geeks and fanboys. The average joe doesn't give a shit. BOLLOCKS. Peter Jackson prooved you wrong with FOTR. And lets face it, a film with wizards, goblins, hobbits and trolls is FAR FAR FAR more nerdy than Alien vs Predator. Yet people did and continue to go see it in droves. Who would have ever thought that a film about a computer generated reality created by robots in order to use the human subjects as batteries would end up being a cultural phenomenon? Its a film about fucking computers for fucks sake. Yet it did. Alien vs Predator is a fantastic premise for a film, I don't care what some of you think. If they got a compotent director (or Paul Anderson manages to pull something out of his hat) then an AvP film could be very very big indeed.
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Ok, so not all of his movies have been great, but Boogie Nights and Magnolia were both pretty good movies. I guess he just needs to stick to drama and stop trying to branch out into sci-fi movies.
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Sorry, but these anti Paul Anderson talkbacks just aren't complete unless theres at least one post confusing him and Paul Thomas Anderson. I don't really see whats so bad about him. I never saw Soldier or Mortal Kombat, I thought they both looked stupid. But I did see Event Horizon and Resident Evil, and I thought those were ok, in fact, I thought Resident Evil was probably the best movie adapted from a video game that I've seen(not saying much, I know). You know the only reason this is being made is just to squeeze the last few drops of money they can out of the Alien franchise, you don't need James Cameron to do that.
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Paul Anderson is completely the wrong man for this film. His only halfway decent film was Event Horizon. Out of all the films he's directed, that's not a good batting average. Fox is about to go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the drain. I wonder if we can just skip the lousy movie and go straight to the DVD, including footage of all the Fox Execs getting fired for how badly this turned out. Now, THAT I'd pay to see. Forget Aliens vs Predator. Freddy vs Jason will be the fan dream genre film to see next year. Ronny Yu will not disappoint!
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Couldn't have put it better myself.
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The Predators are the Covenant, the Xenomorphs are the flood, a badass marine as the Master Chief...it might just fucking work!!! But then i'm at the arse end of a 13 hour shift and my brain is mush...i'm sorry.
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Jul 16, 2002 1:28:59 PM CDT
The movie based on the videogame, based on the comic, based on t
by darth siskel iii
We're in trouble. This plot sounds simplistic as hell
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Jul 16, 2002 1:31:21 PM CDT
More Evidence that Hollywood Wants to Make Movies That Suck
by nocureforfools
hollywood doesn't want to make good movies. they want to make really bad movies. i'm not really sure why. maybe it's some bizarre illuminati like conspiracy to dumb down the entire world? i don't know. maybe they want to file for bankruptcy really bad? all of Anderson's films have been massive flops. everybody hates them. and yet, he continues to get work. maybe it's a big joke. it is a mystery to me. i mean, sure, Aliens vs. Predator is a dumb ass idea, but it could be both cool and dumbass. but no. they are determined to make it boring, bland and dumbass. it's a baffling mystery with no clear cut answers. but one thing is for sure: they want to make movies that suck.
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The last couple of Alien films were shit and Predator 2 wasn't exactly a work of genius, was it? Mortal Kombat is an enjoyable action film. Event Horizon is really atmospheric and the imagery is great. Resident Evil was a damn good action movie. Give the guy a break. He won't do a worse job than anyone else who was going to get it.
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And don't say it won't be. God, Paul Anderson is a wonderful director compared to George Lucas. What a Cunt Lucas is.
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I think "A v. P" is a horrible idea, but that's beside the point - why all the negative vibes toward Paul Anderson? He's a decent genre director who's made two films - "Resident Evil" and especially "Event Horizon" - that have delivered and then some. Whoever is whining because Speilberg, Woo, or for God's sake SAM MENDES isn't directing this needs to wake up and smell reality - Anderson is the sort of director projects like this go to.
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"Die Hard vs Lethal Weapon": John McLean is framed for the assasination of the President. it's up to Riggs and Murtaugh to find him/then clear his name.
"Speed vs Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood". A bunch of old bitches are trapped on a bus that has a bomb that will go off if they go over twenty miles an hour. Keanu Reeves is the dedicated cop who HAS to get to the airport by six, or he'll be too late to stop a known drug dealer from meaving the city. Who will win, the slow ladies, or fast-moving Keanu?
"Country Bears vs Silence of the Lambs". Clarise Starling must track down a family of man-eating bears before they eat some kid.
"Ghostbusters vs The Exorcist" You do the math. "The LAst Temptation of Christ vs Batman" Who will stop the Joker, Battie or Jesus? Will Jesus heal the Joker's face, or will Batman mess it up some more. "Superman vs Look Who's Talking" Superman and a talking baby team up to eat shit. See where I'm goin' with this? This crap works in comics books, doesn't work in movies.
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I agree w/ you Mac_D (and at least one other) - His filmography is like a laundry list of some of the worst movies of the past 10 years... With one BIG EXCEPTION. Good Sci Fi Horror movies are very few and far between. Evvent Horizon is one.
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Jul 16, 2002 2:16:22 PM CDT
Holy fucking shit - why are you people defending Paul "not fucki
by weedymcsmokey
C'mon - I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but this is ridiculous. He sucks - hey not everyone who ever made anything is to be worshipped, or even fucking respected. Event Horizon - probably his best - But a total Solaris ripp-off, with a weaker ending - NO CREDIT. Mortal Combat - the video games had more intriguing plot lines because Video game storylines are set-ups for the action, that is all (sounds like a Mike Bay pic)- no complex universe, just one dimensional characters - they're not even people. And the movie sucked, dance-beat martial arts performed by wankers and claymation puppets. Aliens vs. Predator the video game - what fucking story? All I ever saw were aliens jumping into the screen and you fought them as predator - what can you make from that? The comic books are where the meat is Dr. Foxy - don't try to tell me that the success of the video game made sure this got made. Its been floating around for ten years. And Resident Evil - had little to do with the game (takes place in a town) which is fine by me but was absolutely the most predictable, trashy, poorly acted, stupefyingly written, crap fest last year. I didn't laugh, cry or be remotely entertained. This guy Anderson sucks - go ahead make the movie with him, I give a shit, I ain't seeing it until its on cable. Besides, I doubt there's a big audience for this - Aliens has basically blew its wad, and Predator 2 is a charming 14 years young. I didn't think it was physically possible but this both sucks and blows. You're right though - studios could give a shit about what we think, they pay particular attention to grosses - so if you ham-fisted morons would start editing your movie selections a bit, films like Resident Evil wouldn't have fucking sequels. WHY IS EVERYTHING SEQUELED THESE DAYS. It used to be you actually had to have a good movie for that to happen - you know where a story can go places. Like Tomb Raider. Angelina - get naked or leave me alone.
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I agree Anderson hasn't made a good movie yet, but why can't the fan community come together in this kind of hatred for uber-Trek-hack Brannon Braga? That one man (okay two with Berman) is responsible for the dramatic lack of quality in Trek in the last few years. DS9 was phenominal. It was the best Trek I'd ever seen. In just three years, Braga has taken Trek down to the point where it isn't worth watching. Oops, sorry, got on a tirade. Anyway, yes, I wish someone else were directing AVP.
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Don't really explain why vs. movies don't make sense. No one would make movies like the dumbass examples you have given us. Freddy vs Jason? That works. Alien vs Predator? Works fine as a movie. As for you doom and gloom punks who don't want to see this for whatever reason - guess you will be pissed when the rest of us are lined up to see it, right? LOL.
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As far as making video games into movies, he's probably the most successful based on 'Mortal Kombat' alone. Although just the title alone will make me want to see it, I'm sure it'll be mediocre at best...as is usual with these films with a great concept but executed shoddily, a la AOTC.
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the movie is a about a friggin' alien versus a friggin' predator! how can anyone consider this movie brilliant to begin with it's a fucken' alien versus predator! jesus, it's a popcorn movie and they gave it to the right man. mortal kombat was a great popcorn cinema as was resident evil, event horizon was cool (until the end) I'm giddy that Anderson got this just so he can shut up Harry. jesus! Harry thought Rodriguez' THE FACULTY was good (just cuz he was in it, and robert is his *friend*) that movie was SHIT compared to MK or RE, Blade 2 was weak and no where NEAR as good as the first one. fuck this, i hope anderson gets every other capcom videogame movie out there, i bet you he would've made a hot ass street fighter flick. so, whatever, keep bitchin' cuz the man will still make popcorn classics. HARRY direct yer own movie and see how well you would be put up against of of these movies. THOSE WHO CAN'T DO = REVIEW! (the independant) -81666
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OK so Paul Anderson, after making a bunch of fucking terrible films (apart from event horizon) is given arguably the biggest movie franchise right now. Sure this sucks- I'm a huge fan of aliens+predator, and i it pisses me off seeing people with no or little talent succeed and get rich. The likely result might not b awful, it will probably be an entertaining SFX-laden action flick with a poor script and no depth or soul. The result would've been diferent if ridley or cameron were helming, but the decisions been made-shit happens. My point is that the franchise has already been fucked up by the last 2 films. Cameron's aliens is one of my all time favs-apart from being a awsome action SF-thriller with a great script, it also created a wonderful interesting world of corporations and colonisation. Alien3 should've built on this (maybe Earthwar) but ended up being a simple OK chase movie not adding much to this 'world' and killing off the characters that should of been built on. Resurrection was just a stupid messy pile of wank with a ridiculous storyline. Maybe it would've been possible to work another movie in around the second one (prequel?) but people should be redirecting a little (a LITTLE) of their anderson hatred towards the producers/diectors of the last 2 films, espcially the french fuckface who did resurrection
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Jul 16, 2002 2:39:37 PM CDT
IF YOU BUNCH OF FAT LAZY FUCKS AIN'T HAPPY THEN GO MAKE YOUR
by roycomplain
Whiny bitches. And, Harry, I'm sick of you calling this guy a hack, you jealous swine.
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JAKE BLACKSTREAM WROTE: "The truth is that you desperately want to see AOTC, but since you can't, you pretend that you hate it (WITHOUT HAVING EVEN SEEN IT!), and you've even managed to convince yourself that you're able to influence tens of millions of people worldwide merely by bitching repetitively here on talk back. Pathetic. "
HOW FUNNY it is that HARRY and the fucken NERD HERD seems to be doing the SAME EXACT THING! you hypocrites, breast fed by lucas you shit on everything else! CUSTER: trust you don't have to see the movie to realize it was shit too! it was, it really really was. -
Jul 16, 2002 2:50:53 PM CDT
WILL SUMBODY PLEASE MAKE A PETITION AGAINST THIS TRAVESTY!!!
by movie_junkie
I cannot believe Fox is actually giving this dream project to one of the worst directors of our time...Someone seriously has to make a petition to send to Fox cuz they really need to know what ppl think...after all, we're the ones that put money in their pockets
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Most to least favorite...
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Because the movie going shithead public keeps going to see his shite movies and making money for the studio! Why wouldn't they hire him? They can probably get him cheaper and the average phukface movie goer will trip over himself because he can't get to the theater fast enough to give these phuksticks his/her money. A damn shame........And the worst part is I wanna see it so bad, I'll probably be there first day! And thus the cycle continues, and PA will keep getting jobs!!
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Alien vs. Predator is going to suck no matter who they get to direct it. No film-maker worth a damn is going to go near such a stupid idea.
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We could instead reading "Paul Anderson to direct film adaption of cult gaphic novel 'Watchmen'." I don't care if he fucks this up 'cos I'm of the opinion, as are many others, that A v P is one of the most stupid ideas ever and is based on what was an 'easter egg' in Predetor II, which in terms of thin ideas for movie is anarexic!! (sp).
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What the fuck is the problem with people here????
I read this site all the time but occasionally I get so fuckin angry at stupid comments about a film which isnt even fuckin filmed yet... !!!!
So Paul Anderson is at the helm - so what - this film couldn't be good if you gave Sam Raimi $2500 and told him to do what he wanted with it. Its a dead project - the games sucked (except the jaguar version) and the film will suck no matter who is in charge.
I have a novell concept for you all - watch the film and then give us your critique.
Event Horizon is fun to watch and will always be so - resident evil was hard to watch as a fan of the gfames but as a film in its own right - it wasn';t bad - certainly no worse than fuckin Day of the Dead.
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If you ask me, I really hate saying this but I believe "Resident Evil" was actually a faithful film adaptation of the video game. For one thing Anderson didn't do any bullshitting that filmmakers Rocky Morton and Annabel Jenkel did for their "Super Mario Bros." Anderson actually got the right look and sense of the video game. He knew the games so perfectly, that he was able to get the nasty "Licker" creature from Resident Evil 2 game and put it as the main villain. Well, the Licker wasn't really named in the RE movie but SHIT, it looked just liked it did in the video game. In the Mortal Kombat movie, Anderson didn't make the film bloody but MAN, there were some really sweet and cool sequences in it. Hell, when Shang Tsung and Liu Kang finally fight, Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa who plays Shang Tsung wanted Liu Kang to actually kick him, so what you see in the film are actually his lips bleeding for real. The bottom line is that Paul Anderson knows how to adapt video games into movies but he just can't handle story telling great.
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I'll hate it if I watch it and it sucks. Until then...let's bide our time, people. If Resident Evil had gone to Romero with the same plot, it would still have sucked - killer computers are bollocks in ANY movie. Paul "no I didn't make the movie with Heather Graham's baps in it" Anderson is in no position to script AND direct AvP in my opinion - get Sam Kieth to do it or someone who has has a crack at the Alien comic books! Judge for yourselves by getting out your paper round cash when the movie is released, just like you KNOW YOU WILL. I'll be there in the queue too - handing out cyandide pills for the geeks coming out of the experience disgruntled. ;-p Let's not forget that the outcmoe is inevitable. What was on the wall in that Predator ship at the end of Predator 2? The Alien skull. I rest my case. Oh - I thought that was a figuire of speech. I mean - case closed. P$
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The first two AvP games were fantastic. Made by Rebellion on Jaguar and PC. Very scary, especially the later one. Then FOX handed the franchise to the hacks at Monolith, and AvP II went South for the winter... Do I detect a pattern?
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Jul 16, 2002 3:30:45 PM CDT
Anderson and Prinze Jr really need to reach out to Harry
by moriarity report
So instead of just throwing dirt at everything they do, Harry might actually be able to have a dialouge with them...and after spending some time on the cool sets, Harry might get all misty eyed and give us a complety BULLSHIT review of their films like he did with his sentimental FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING review. Come on, let Harry hang out on the Alien set and get absorbed in the production and I think he'll maybe feel a little differntly about this production. Same goes for Prinze's Summer Cath 2. If Harry gets to hang out with Jessica Beil for a while, his enthusiasm for the project will know no limit! ;)
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So Im in bad mood from this anderson debacle and now this guy dr foxys gotta piss me off even more. Dr foxy, who seems to love to constantly mention that he works for some games magazine, reckons anderson is good enough because hes a games fan. So the guy makes god-awful films who gives a fuck right? hey im a games fan and i HAVENT made any shit films- give me the damn gig. Seeing as the games are based on the films and comics, saying the next film will be directly based on the games is just plain fucking stupid! This foxy guy then tries to patronise every avp fan who has dissaproved of the anderson decision. What the hells the matter with you? He has made some of the shittest films of the last 10 years- of course theres gonna be outrage! I reckon foxy either has a terrible taste in films or is sucking off anderson. Either way somethings fucked up!
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Mr. Shroom,
Your opinion on what movies were the worst in the last 10 years has nothing to do with it. So you don't like him, BFD. I liked some of his movies. Resident Evil was great. I happen to agree with Foxy except I will add that you are the only asswipe here being patronizing. -
Jul 16, 2002 3:46:31 PM CDT
Paul WS Anderson is not the worst director in the world, I like
by brokentusk
If ever they made a mistake, it was hiring this man to make this film. I've been waiting for this film for years, YEARS! Paul Anderson does have heart, I believe he wants his films to be good, I believe he has the passion, but he does not have the talent needed to make this the film it needs to be. Please let this become untrue or, let him learn from his past mistakes and surprise us all, or, let him get hit by a bus...
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Jul 16, 2002 3:58:49 PM CDT
The CDC must put all of PA's original negatives in Level 5 c
by blackbanana
It must be done now!
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Jul 16, 2002 4:04:17 PM CDT
MORIARTY DID SOMETHING ABOUT PAUL ANDERSON AND THE MESS HE MADE
by donaldsutherland
He went and got his 1st real writing assignment - on Mortal Kombat 3. I notice he hasn't weighed in on this issue. What do you say, McWeeny? If your script got a greenlight WITH THE CAVEAT that Paul Anderson was to direct, would you shut your mouth, take the 'against' money, and hope you get invited to the premier so your guatemalan girlfriend can clap and squeal when your name comes up onscreen? I say you would. We all would.
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..I tells ya! Hollywood feels threatened by the mass market appeal of videogames, so every so often they pick one thats been selling well, buy the rights to create a film based on it, then hire no talent writers and directors to make it into a film. Then when it bombs at the box-office the movie execs turn around and try to make out that its symptomatic of videogame stories 'not having the depth' (even though the stories been altered in the film to make it almost unrecognisable to the games plot). If they wanted to do it right, they'd hire the people who crafted the games original story, but they dont, they'd much rather have people who have no understanding of the game or its plot create something that bares a passing resemblance to the game.
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Yes it is and I think everyone will agree with me on that, it's a shame Jimmy Cameron can't direct this Aliens v Predator movie instead of disappointing Anderson. It seems to be a very careless decision, the people responsible should be firebombed.
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It is interesting to see the range everyone is on. I am disappointed that so many are falling for Harry's "Hack" ranting. Anderson is proved to be a solid filmmaker, that, get this, makes the films YOU want to see because no other motherf@#$ing director seems to want to bother. How Harry can worship Blade 2 (Good, Not as good as the original) and dislike Resident Evil is beyond me. Way beyond me. Oh, and if Burning Ranger is right, and we get the Capcom AvP storyline, then at least we are getting a great actioneer. At best we are getting something that will line up with Aliens and Predator.
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This Anderson guy sucks c*ck. Don't fuck up a childhood dream. I remember the moment in Predator 2 when you saw the Alien skull and thought... "Hell yeah... battle of all battles". Knowing this asswipe, it'll turn into "Fairydance of all Fairydances". Jesus. Give it to a Brit!!!
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I had this really bad dream. I was checking out AICN when it was announced that Paul "shit for brains" Anderson was directing one of the most eagerly awaited movies of the past decade Alien vs. Predator. You would not believe the mass hysteria that followed. I'm talking boycotts of Fox movies, riots in downtown Hollywood, and a firing squad in front of Anderson's home. Idiots at 20th Century Fox had bypassed names like Woo and Cameron, a guaranteed box office bonanza , and had handed the reins over to a guy who has directed dog vomit disguised as motion pictures (Resident Evil, Soldier, Mortal Combat, Event Horizon....pick one....hell pick em all). I woke up in a cold sweat, too scared to go back to sleep. Whew! That was the most realistic nightmare I have ever experienced! So...hey guys...what I miss?
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Are you kidding me? Did someone compare Paul Anderson to Guillermo Del Toro a couple of posts back? How can youve attempt to compare compare PA's filmography to Del Toro's. I mean, "Mortal Kombat" VS "Cronos"? "Event Horizon" VS "The Devils Backbone"? Soldier Vs The awesome "Blade 2"? (and it was awesome, no doubt about it) Paul's gonna have to pull one goddamn great movie out of his ass to not make this movie suck monkey balls (and personally, I read a great Alien VS Predator paperback by Steve Perry awhile back, and that book was just screaming for a film translation.)
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anderson is a decent director. i hated soldier, but thats just cause it was under budgeted for a big sci fi movie. his other movies while far from perfect are fun movies. the only problem ive ever had was some of the camp tossed into other wise awesome movies. but you fuckers are poor babies, only certain directors are allowed to have camp in their movies? its not the guy is joel shoemacher(spelling?) he's not a fucking horried director. he's pretty good. his british film shopping is just fucking awesome. i will be in line to see avp, and oh yeah, i still havent paid to see ep2 yet, ive seen the bootleg. why? because the fat fuck of a hack director isnt getting another dime of my money, no twinkies for his ass anymore. i like quality movies.
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Would all the talkbackers who constantly bash Harry and everyone else for not being directors themselves-which some how doesnt give them the right to form opinions about whether a movie is good or not please shut the fuck up? That is the lamest idea ive ever heard. What, just because your not a cook, does that mean you can't enjoy a T-Bone steak? Just because your not an author means you can't enjoy a great book, or not enjoy it? Movie's are made for one reason and one reason alone: to entertain an audience. We, as the audience, can judge whether or not a film is good depending on our own tastes. Does this mean that Harry or any other talkbackerin here's opinion is the end all? Of course not. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But to say that your not allowed to form one just because you dont' have an active part in creating films is absurd.
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stop calling Anderson a hack. He makes decent movies. Not brilliant movies, but hardly real stinkers as you like to tell people.
After all, Joel Schumacher is the worst director of all time, closely followed by Albert Pyun (Nemesis, Cyborg...), Allan A. Goldstein (2001 Space Travesty), Chris Columbus, Simon West (Tomb Raider), Lawrence Guterman (Cats & Dogs) and many many more....
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Folks, give Harry a break, already! Last time I checked, the name of the site was "Ain't It Cool," not "My, How Stimulating" or "Thought Provoking, Isn't It?" This is a fan site, run by a guy who is a movie fan, not a critic, not a theorist, but a fan, who shares his fan rantings with us, his fellow fans, who then rant with and at one another. If you want quality writing and thoughtful commentary, read "Film Quarterly." If you want cool fan info and perspectives, read AICN. I'm sick of saying "Cobra out." I need a better signoff. Cobra, er, over.
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so all the dateless losers that like to piss and moan about movies can kiss my getting laid all the time ass.
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Yes, Paul Anderson's a hack - every movie he's ever made sucks balls (if you liked Event Horizon, Mortal Combat, etc., try watching them again. And again. And again. If you haven't bludgeoned yourself witha wrench by the fourth viewing, I fear you). Yes, Aliens v. Predator will suck with him directing it. And yes, it was going to suck anyway. It's ALIENS VS. PREDATOR. It's a shitty team-up/versus premise carried out in true comic book cross-over fashion. So you see... everyone here is right. Now eat your peas.
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This is not the end of the world. As mediocre as PA's past films have been, they are far from the real shite excreted by others in Hollywood (Reign of Fire, AOTC, Spiderman, oh yeah REIGN OF FUCKING STUPIDITY). Things could be worse. I'm just happy to see it finally greenlit. Maybe #1 will be bland, sorta like Superman and Star Trek #1s, but AvsP #2 might end up being another classic. Still...there would have been no greater pleasure achievable by man than to have had Cameron directing AvsP.
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Jul 16, 2002 5:35:55 PM CDT
Oh, this is a tragedy because AvP was going to be the best movie
by mattmanreturns
Did any of you actually think this film would be any good? Anderson or no? Event Horizon was fairly creepy at points, at least he might be able to make it scary. That's about all it might have going for it anyway.
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Just the Predators and the Aliens on their dark home planet.That would be very cool.
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I have to agree with almost everyone here about their thoughts on Paul Anderson. I have been a long time fan of both Alien and Predator, and for as long as I can remember, fans of both franchises have longed for the day that a movie will be made clashing these two greatest alien species ever to be conceived by man. Now that day 'seems' to have come, but not without grief.
Anyone who says that this movie is not a good idea at all knows nothing about science fiction. The movie has so much potential, but helming a director such as Paul Anderson is a big mistake on Fox's part. I will admit that I actually liked Resident Evil, sure it wasn't perfect, but of all of Paul's attempts to make a decent science fiction movie, this one took the cake. Event Horizon was alright until the end. There just could have been a better way to explain this place of 'pure evil' than to make it sound like Hell itself that exists not in another plane of our dimensions but just a few interstellar years away from our solar system. Anyways..
This all bores down to Fox and their utter incompetance over the last few years. In fact, they've porbably made more stupid decisions just over the last year, maybe two, than they have in their entire history. Just as a few examples, they totally screwed up their execution of the Dark Angel series, and as a result discontinued it after only two seasons. Let's not forget about The X-Files, which while it may have been losing its touch in the last few seasons, still is a great series and should not have been discontinued just because of the few ungrateful and unintelligent fans in various forums.
Those are just a few examples. We could even go back to the 4th installment of the Alien series. Who decided to get a french director to make a movie he knows nothing about? This is the only Alien film I have a problem with. Alien 3 was a very good movie, by itself, and as a sequel to Aliens. Anyone who disagrees simply does not know movie making, or has been brainwashed by the success of Aliens and that of the ratings. Even David Fincher says he hates Alien 3. What the hell? It's a good movie, it's the darkest, scariest Alien movie of all of them. To hell with you people.
To finish this up, because I think this may be getting too long, ditch Paul Anderson! We have heard too that he even may be writing the script. !!!!!! Are you people at Fox thick headed? You already totally screwed up by deciding to get Joss Whedon, Joss Whedon for god's sakes, the god damn creator of Buffy, to write Alien Resurrection. Why call for Paul Anderson, who's first known movie is Mortal Kombat (hahaha) to 'write' a long awaited movie? There have been plenty of other worthy scripts from actual fans, fans that care about this franchise. I swear, movie making seriously is not what is used to be. There was a time when Production companies acutally cared about making quality movies, but now it's all about the marketing and it's all about the ratings. Fox has lost it. I will still watch Aliens vs. Predator, I will still buy it on DVD, but I still have objections to allowing Paul Anderson complete control of these two franchises. Hell, I could write and direct a better Alien and Predator movie...
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some of the worst films of the last ten years? i'm betting you don't even know what bad really is if you think PA is one of the worst directors around. go watch the haunting. heck, go watch a bunch of jim wynorski films. you'll need to look him up of course because bad directors, the truly bad ones, don't make financially successful films. if you have made financially succesful films based on video game franchises then be my guest. i'm not having a go at the people who wish they'd hired someone else, just the people being A: unrealistic about what an AvP film could ever be in the current climate and B: are already proclaiming with multiple expletives how bad the film is going to be when it hasn't even been written, cast or made yet. oh and i don't write for a magazine. a website. and i only mentioned it a couple of times in my first post. as for my taste in films being terrible... it isn't. but everyone has bad taste compared to you right? i'd bet we like and highly rate a lot of the same films, and i'd bet we'd disagree on others. you know, like everyone else? soldier = bad. mk = good when i was a thirteen year old MK fan, cheesy now. re = ok to good, nowhere near great. event horizon = highly stylish dark horror film i enjoyed as did it seemed a lot of people. watch it back to back with the haunting remake. foxy
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I must admit to liking Event Horizon and finding Resident Evil but (despite Paul Anderson being a fellow North East England lad) I have to say the guy is a lousy choice for a difficult job.
Paul Anderson has been given some great concepts, scripts and actors to work with and each time he has either completely blown it or at least left the audience thinking "That could have been SO much better".
Event Horizon:
Great Idea, Bob Keen's scary as hell makeup, excellent cast. Should have been the scariest sci-fi film ever, ended up just being enjoyable.
The problem is that the guy just cannot seem to inject any passion or soul into his work.
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Huh!? That is the only movie in the last 10 years that actually frightened me. THE ONLY ONE. I took many people to see that film and all loved it. Now this may not, and I suppose DOES NOT mean that he will do a good job on AvsP. But I think that comic book was a half-ass idea and have never thought it would make a good movie to begin with. Batman vs Superman, now that sounds like it COULD BE bad ass. So someone back me up on Event Horizon being a good (and in my mind great) film.
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How on earth did Paul Anderson get a career in film directing? With his overabumdance of jump-cuts, he makes Joel Schumacher and Michael Bay look like models of restraint. This guy should be directing episodes of Tracker or some other shitty syndicated sci-fi TV show, not major, big-budget motion pictures!
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The horribly untalented Paul Anderson must be worst thing that ever happened to the incredibly talented Paul Thomas Anderson; how many people thought when they clicked on this link that Harry was talking about the latter? This is why he uses "P.T. Anderson" in his credits now - to avoid being mistaken for the useless waste of life that is Paul Anderson.
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Great, so Anderson sold himself well at the pitch meeting with the Fox suits. And despite myself, I can
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That's what I'd like to see him make next. Mmmmmmm jelly.
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All of you who think Alien versus Predator is a lame idea have obviously not paid attention to any of the fine games, comics and books that are about.....
A fanboy eh? YES I F**KING AM AND PROUD. As a kid the Alien and Predator films were the best damn things Id ever set eyes on. They are still great today.
Alien 3 and Predator 2 were not brilliant but they are certainly better than ANYTHING PTA has ever directed, they only dissapointed becuase of peoples high expectations. As individual films they deliver more thrills and spills than Resident Evil.
People like PTA perpetuate the idea that sci-fi/action films should be dumb and vacuous. Alot of you say well its a popcorn movie wtf is that supposed to mean anymore it should mean you fekking spill your pop-corn all over the floor with excitment but I guess what you guys mean is you sit staring, munching your popcorn until the dissapointing drivel on the screen is over
Gone are the days of Robocop, Terminator and Total Recall. Alot what passes for decent sci-fi these days is just downright mundane, synical or both, PTA just loves that kind of shit.
BTW according to the grapevine Jim Cameroon did take an interest in AVP....check out www.avpnews.com
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You really just don't get it. There are two kinds of success in the film business. Box office success and critical success. Anderson is neither. You can't compare Anderson to Fincher or Gilliam or the Coen Brothers whose films make the same kind of money but have made great films. He also can't be compared with big time action filmakers like Michael Bay or Simon West because they can take a simple script and make brainless entertainment for the masses. What Anderson does is take something that could be good and makes it bland. It doesn't take a famous director to make a good action flick, but it does take someone who understands how to tell a story. I don't believe any of you that say you liked Event Horizon. That film had an interesting idea that could have been scary and he let the air out of it. There is not one scary thing in that film (except what you see in the commercials: lights flicker, dead wife appears). Its not just about box office, it's about pleasing the fans. Even if it is only about getting what you can from the box office and screw the fans, if he screws up this film, the first week will be the only big week and that will be because of the idea of the film, not the director. After that, it falls off and you lose money. Of course then there's the international market and the video and dvd sales to make some money back but then you've pissed off your fans and the franchise is dead. But what do you care, you made your money right? Here's a novel idea, take the movie, try to make it actually good so you get the opening box office PLUS the next few weeks, and then have a bigger audience for the franchise. Of course that goes against the Jaws 3D Hollywood style of making money but it's just crazy enough to work.
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I remember first hearing about this project years ago on Comming Attractions. I've always hoped that they would make this and now that they finally are they're hiring some jackass who will ruin it! I'm very very angry. This could have been a great movie.
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First, isn't Harry the same "genius" who puts Michael Bay on a pedestal? Talk about a hack director. Harry Knowles has been bought and paid for by Hollywood. His credibility about any subject matter should be taken with a grain of salt b/c he is now part of the establishment, or at least he thinks he is. His royal fatness has tried to ingratiate himself with every studio by basically trying to be a reviewer for hire. Pay your money, send your jet, and Harry will kiss your ass to his fans. Unfortunately for Harry, the truth is that NO ONE in Hollywood thinks Harry is relavent anymore. Ain't It Cool has very little stroke in Hollywood these days. That's the truth. As fans of AvP, let's just wait to see the movie. We should judge someone by their best work, not their worst. Anyone seen AI, lately? Or what about Legend? White Squall? Or, Pirhanna 2? Yup, Spielberg, Ridley and Cameron have ALL made crap at one time or another. Its part of the risk. Harry, why don't you put down the donut and relax. PA has never done or said anything against you, so chill out. All of us are going to turn out the first weekend anyway, so let's hope for the best.
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Yes, I agree Event Horizon was good. In fact, from what I've heard, it could have been even better if the studio hadn't forced so many cuts. Beautifully designed, genuinely scary, not afraid to kill off characters you're rooting for... EH came this close to genre greatness, and I'm still hoping a 2 1/2 hour directors cut could push it over the top. And Mortal Kombat was pretty good too, a high-energy fantasy several fathoms above the depths plumbed by Street Fighter. In fact, in spite of the lame movies in Anderson's CV, I can't think of a reason to hate his work the way I hate the films of Joel Schumacher. Harry might believe Soldier was a great script ruined by hack-work but script reviewing is one area where I'm not overawed by his judgement. Schumacher however, turned a dark, crazy Batman franchise into a camp fetish party.
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Jul 16, 2002 8:01:07 PM CDT
Paul (Im gonna bum up AvP and laugh at all you fans) Anderson
by spyda mann
I fucking cant stand this dreary
little geek, who is pissing on
the industry and getting away with
it.
Why dont we all pitch in and buy him out or something because if he gets his fucked up little claws on AvP I will be forced to SHOOT THIS FUCKING TWAT!!!
His films are crap, they have no plot, character and depth and why the fuck does he always pick those fucking dancey, trance kinda shit soundtracks, I mean somebody could be standing in a corner of a black room pissing on the wall and he would have a dance beat over it. He is a git!!! I live within 60 miles of the town which he grew up in and because of that alone Im thinking of moving.
please dont let him touch this film. please... please...
I love the film industry, and I REALLY love predator, i really enjoyed the first film and still found a place in my heart for the second, but if this movie is realised under this mans name it will fall. Granted Joel Silver is looking over his shoulder and has always got involved in the past and of course his record isnt too bad so maybe we do have a chance, but I really hope Fox get their fingers out their arses and find somebody suitable for the job. -
First this Aliens vs. Predator movie, perhaps the most eagerly awaited fan wish film ever to happen, will BE TOTAL SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also any Alien 5, and Predator 3 that could be made by someone with even a mild bit of skill or talent, and at least one good film under their belt, will be put aside. Of course when this shitfest tanks they will trash any plans for those other two films. Paul Anderson has pulled the mother of all fuck jobs here by destroying THREE possibly good films through his mere presence alone. And to all people who defend his shit films, you have no taste.
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i only made it through like 1/8th of all this talk back, and so the hopes of anybody else actually reading this are low, anyway. But I really think he's not as bad a director as people are saying. I am a big fan of Resident Evil, even after spending the whole time leading up to its release being pissed that they kicked off George Romero. I thought the movie ended up really good. Aliens Vs. Predator could end up a really good movie, i just hope that it's Paul Anderson's best movie EVER, cause if it is, then it could easily meet high expectations. However, if it's just on the level of Resident Evil, and is just a good movie, then it's gonna leave a LOT of people pissed off, and still make millions of dollars. Which sucks..
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On the one hand I am kinda really amazed that Paul Anderson has been given the gig - Mortal Kombat was fun if flimsy, Event Horizon was fun too, Soldier was pretty bad altho' its great to poke holes-in and have a laugh at how bad a film can be. I saw Resident Evil on Friday, its been held-up for 4 months since its US release, and I can see why. Its a fun shallow film (again!!), with one or two cool bits, but Anderson really fucked-up the zombie moments (so uninteresting!! Dead boring, if you will....... DOH!!), and it was held-back as Blade II, released at the same time, trounces it from a great height. Anderson is the kind of Director that can push-out very light trash that will appeal to those who want the equivalent of a MacDonalds meal at times, with no complications, no quirks, no need to try and even think of what is being watched. If Fox have the stupidity to do this, then it is to their risk, but every studio once in a while likes to make what you might call a 'roadcrash' - ugly, grisly, and everybody stops-by to take a look - Scooby-Doo, Flintstones, Wild Wild West, Avengers, Monkeybone - need I go on? I am alarmed, but I accept that the studios won't listen, so its up to us as a prospective audience to vote with our money, and our feet. I'm not saying boycott the film, I'm not going to be like that stupid idiot Custer and his Star Wars rantings - What I am saying is that give the film some due, and when it arrives and you have the chance to view it decide whether you can hold-off if you've been told, or read that its bad, or whether its good. At the end of the day I'm expecting a shite movie like a lot of people here, but I love the Alien and Predator movies so much that it will be hard to resist buying a ticket and maybe trying to glean some enjoyment. I'm pissed folks, but I also know that at the same time really good films come along and make me excited, and I never saw them coming - Blade II I loved and didn't know it was out 'til the day I saw it (week later in the UK I found out from the US), Training Day (brilliant movie) - hold-on in there people, lets see the outcome.......!!
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booo-hoooo. paul anderson sucks! booo-hoooo. all this from the same bunch of tools who think kevin smith is a friggin' genius!!!! kevin smith is a friggin' train wreck of a director!! and, i don't care what anyone says, soldier, event horizon and resident evil are good movies. soldier was masterful. he told the whole story with little dialogue and exciting visual storytelling. the scene where the kids have to watch the dogs being ripped to shreds...better than anything in kevin smith's ENTIRE career. i'm excited to see what paul anderson can do with this movie. i think you're gonna eat your shoe, harry, if you haven't already.
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I know that when Event Horizon was due to be released in 1997 the studio held the film back and ordered cuts to make the film more 'summer-friendly' as such. The film, as I said before, is a film thats fun, but a lot of missed potential of building upon itself, and some very stupid plotholes. Joel Schumacher was a Director I liked up until 'Batman Forever' which I thought was shite (can't answer for Bad Company, but Tigerland is truly a powerful brooding picture), yet everybody forgets that Joel made cool stuff like The Lost Boys and Flatliners, they tend to just remember the truly bad bits. Paul Anderson has made a classic fuckup with Soldier, he's made some uninteresting ditties here and there, I would love to see the Studio-unfucked version of Event Horizon, I would love to see the film as he intended it to be. I'm not justifying the man's reasons here, but he hasn't personally hurt any of us like killed our friends or families, he's just fucked-up a lot. I'll probably be flamed, I think if Fox read this TB anyway I think they'd know how we all feel and maybe reconsider. Paul, can we see EH as you intended it sometime? I want to see the complete case for the prosecution before the verdict!!
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his films are PAP!!!
Soldier: No comment
Event Horrizon: not bad but only because of the cast.
Mortal Kombat: Immortal Krap
Resident Evil: Shit soundtrack, Shit acting, Shit zombies, who are suppost to be dum but can still gather into a elevator and travel down to the same level as the characters, the licker was just GAY!!! I could have made it look more convincing with a flick book, the film was set in a super dupper quality lab with the same plumbing system of 1900 century london, oh and the dogs scene was just laughable. Milla was the only good thing about this film and thats cos' we got a nice glimpse of her hot body and a fine view of her lady lips. Need I say anymore?
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I did like Resident Evil, but not because of him. I have never played the game in my life, but was sitting next to a bloke who loves it - and he says it stayed true to the game. He filled me in on a few things. As for Anderson, I think he is not entirely hirroible. And, not all that great. As for the TalkBackers who want to "kill" him... lighten the fuck up, it is just a movie. Jesus, some of you people need to grow up a little. A bad film, dircted by a bad director is NOT the end of the world. If it were, we all would have died years ago when BATMAN & ROBIN was released. But, George Clooney still rocks, yo...
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Jul 16, 2002 8:57:41 PM CDT
Who cares, as long as it keeps him away from remaking DEATH RACE
by cash bailey
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Holy Shit, Have you LOOKED at the movies the asswipe has made??
LOOK NOW!!!!
Resident Evil (2002)
Soldier (1998)
Event Horizon (1997)
Mortal Kombat (1995)
Now what the fuck are you thinking???? Paul Anderson MUST be the smoothist talker in the world, Cos his Bitch ass just walked off with a Gold nugget and your okay with it. JESUS MAN!!!!!! Wake Up!!!!! Look at those movies he's made. For all thats good in the world don't let this fuck flush another one down the pot!!!!!!!!! -
1)AvP will suck, unless it's wall to wall fight scenes. 2) I liked Event Horizon, that one scene, where they get a glimpse of the former crew... 3) They are remaking Scanners??
Why??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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You seem to be such an amazing talent, with all of your stupid, disdainful critique of a hard working filmmaker, that you must have an amazing repetoire of your own. Right? Wrong. You have a FAN SITE. No films. You have never made one. Probably a few home videos of yourself and your sock puppet, but nothing else. So, where do you get of calling this man a hack when he works harder in one day than you do all year (unless you count eating milkduds and looking at internet porn- work). After you direct an award winning film, come back to the site and THEN trash some filmmaker. Right after you blow Kevin Smith, decree him a demi-god, all because he let you hang out on his set. Don't let the fact that he is just making home movies with a hollywood budget get in your way.
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They are dipshits ya' know. Anyway, FOX won't be getting my money.----------Also Harry. Fucking cockroaches?! Excellent. Give inb to your anger...it's a lot more fun that way!
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Anderson can't do any worse than anyone else on an AvP pic. It will be terrible no matter who directs it. TheALIEN franchise is dead in the water, and PREDATOR II proved this was never meant to be a franchise.
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The only good things about Event Horizon was that it was quite scary in places (I don't know how he did it, but the few scary scenes in that movie are the only scenes to scare me in a long long long time). The other cool bit was the recorded log message of the former crew just after they had entered hell. Those few seconds are absolutely brilliant (although its more to do with the actors, make-up artists and sound effects than it has to do with Anderson's directing). I mean, oh man, what an un-nerving few seconds! Especialy the horrific screams and the canibalism and the captain ripping his own eyes out). Appart from that though, the film isn't much cop at all. Cheesy, poorly scripted and edited, and very soundstagy.
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Jul 16, 2002 10:24:31 PM CDT
ColdSun: just a note Paul Anderson does not have the same name a
by bigw
Peter Jackson directed Lord of the Rings. PTA (Paul T. Anderson)was the director of Magnolia and Boogie Nights. He's good too.
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O.k.-Anderson's movies suck.But,
there is a BIGGER PICTURE here.The
whole concept pretty much blows.I
just could give a shit either way.
I love ALIEN and each sequel less
and less.The first PREDATOR rocks.
If these series MUST continue,I say give them proper instalments.
The whole thing is a sad attempt.
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Jul 16, 2002 10:53:30 PM CDT
So a mediocre director has been assigned to direct a shitty fanb
by st.buggering
Yeah, that's worth getting worked up about.
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Jul 16, 2002 10:55:01 PM CDT
Those idiots at FoX got the wrong Paul - It should be Paul Verho
by z0d
I only say this because he has made some kick ass films. Total Recall, Starship Troopers, Basic Instinct, etc. Anderson's best is only the mediocre Mortal Kombat and the excellent thriller Event Horizon.--------==========>AvsP deserves Verhoeven because Verhoeven can direct sci-fi bloodfests that kick ass!<==-----------------________________---KNEEL---________________
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It's still some of the best pen/pencil work you'll see in comicdom. And the storyline is still the best. I'd want to do an AVP intro along the lines of Bram Stoker's Dracula: a scene of all Predators ready to land on the surface of some jungle planet to kill Aliens. Broken Tusk, the leader, tells the new guys flat out that he calls the shots about who kills what. No noncombatants, especially those wimpy little humans. One Young Guy tells him to bite it, 'cause the humans are encroach on Predator space--though they don't know it yet--and if they get scragged, too bad for them. A fight ensues, and Broken Tusk's prestige goes down a little. This whole scene would be done with subtitles, and in Predator color. I was also thinking that the Predators could have little holographic projectors on their left shoulders, to flash images while they argue.
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This is fucking bullshit. I hate this guy's movies... He's ruined SO many possibly good things.
I can't believe two of my favourite sci-fi creations are going to be wasted by some FUCKING CUNT NUTS at FOX!
If Alien 3 wasn't bad enough... they gave me Alien 4... Now... if the franchise hasn't bleed enough, THIS shit falls on it. FUCK YOU FOX, I pray you become the next MGM, keep supporting this fucking retard director and you will.
WHY oh WHY...
The only thing worse than this, would be to find out that Paul Anderson (The TALENTLESS ONE!) is making Indiana Jones 4...
How does a fucking retarded turd like this cock monkey get such cool franchises... What the fuck are the retards at FOX basing their decisions on.
FUCK EM ALL!
AND DON'T TELL ME "OH YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET SO BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT!"
FUCK YOU and ALL YOU WHO THINK THAT I SHOULD WAIT TO SEE THIS MOVIE BEFORE PASSING JUDGEMENT!
I DON'T HAVE TO WAIT CAUSE A ASS LICK LIKE PAUL ANDERSON IS MAKING IT.
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Look at the last two Alien movies. I despised Alien 3 and guess who directed that? David Fincher, the same guy that directed Fight Club, Seven, and Panic Room. And Jean-Pierre Jeunet, one of my favorite directors who is responsible for City of Lost Children and Amelie also directed the horrid movie that is Alien Resurrection. As for Paul Anderson's work I enjoyed Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil. They were just dumb fun movies but nothing more. I hated Event Horizon and Soldier. Guess Anderson is best when he is doing videogame to movie translations. Speaking of the games, the two AVP games for the PC are actually pretty good. The first one didn't really have a story at all but the second one had a pretty good storyline to it. Also, one that I see from people is that they really put down videogames. The fact is many current videogames have better storylines that a lot of movies made today. That isn't saying much considering movies aren't as good as they used to be. Videogames have evolved immensely since the days of Pac-Man and it's time some of you guys checked out Metal Gear Solid (the first one) or the Final Fantasy games (the FF movie sucked, though). You'll be suprised at how good the storylines actually are.
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Now i have a good reason why not to anticipate this project which i really wanted to see made for a long time now.
what is wrong with this people?
PAUL ANDERSON! PPPAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULL ANDERSOOOOOOOOOOOOONNN!!!
I wish this is just a vicious rumour by some heartless bastard.Best of luck everyone!
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You could make a movie about ICO, you could make a movie about either Silent Hill 1 or 2, you could make a movie about Metal Gear, and in each one you could get the directors, character designers, sound designers, score composers etc etc who did the games to create a film conversion of their works and have a product far superior to most movies we see coming out of Hollywood. If you don't believe me, just sit down and actually PLAY one of the games I have mentioned, and you may realise that you have vastly underestimated what the medium is capable of. Also, dr_foxy, you may say that there are some fans of Resident Evil and MK that did enjoy the films, but if so, that is because they are the kind of simple minded morons who only enjoy playing a game or watching a movie if it has an explosion and/or a vampire. P.S. I thought this might be funny to some of you out there that may not know it, but just like the vast majority of game to film conversions suck incredible portions of ass, the opposite is also true. There is an equal amount of stigma surrounding these film to game conversions, which is pleasantly ironic.
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Jul 17, 2002 12:06:33 AM CDT
Question: Is FOX the company that sacked Bill Mechanic for makin
by spab2
And pays the Simpsons cast peanuts? And hired Feckin' Monolith to make the AvP 2 game? I think you should all be grateful the gig's going to Paul Anderson and not to Michael Bay, Joel Schumacher, Raja Gosnell, Danny Cannon or Simon West. Anderson has potential, he's just never quite fulfilled it. Course, David Twohy would be a more solid choice but I'd rather see him take Riddick to the next level than hop onto a super-villain monster team-up that's the 21st century answer to Dracula Meets Frankenstein.
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EVENT HORIZON IS A GOOD MOVIE FOR GODS SAKE. say whatever you want about his other films, but event horizon is good, very good. i just asked myself: "where you scared shitless? yes. did the movie ever make you feel like it was cheesy, stupid, humour-horror? no." i'm sorry, but that makes it a good movie in my books
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Just because someone enjoyed the MK or RE movies doesn't mean they're stupid. I enjoyed these movies when I saw them. I'm not a fan of these movies and they would never be anywhere near my top 20 list of alltime favorite films. They were just 2 hour entertaining diversions that I saw at the $1 theatre over a slow weekend.
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also, i forgot to add in my other post in here that this honestly can't turn out bad. because i'd be worried if it was just paul anderson by himself, but it's also the original producers and all these people who KNOW what should be in hte movie, and the quality level it should be at. I can't imagine one director overpowering all these people with so much seniority involving the material and making it suck.
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Why Anderson? Why? This movie has great, great potential. In fact, it still does. But in the hands of The Hack, who knows what shit will shall come. Here's to another movie you'll forget about after a month.
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C'mon, it's right up there with Alien 1. What's wrong with some of you? You hear someone say it sucks and you think "gee, that movie sucked? okay." It was a very good movie. Good story, visuals, shocks, horror, effects. And soldier wasn't bad either. Not great, but I wouldn't mind seeing it again. Mortal Kombat sucked I have to admit, and I have yet to see Resident Evil, but knowing that RE comes from the same director as Event Horizon and soldier is a definate plus for me. I hope he does a good job with AVP. I look forward to seeing it on the big screen.
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I know it gets dumped on but I usually avoid horror, especially demonic/satanic stuff. I went to see Event Horizon because I basically thought it was a sci-fi movie; sorry, didn't closely investigate. It scared the piss out of me. I could not sleep that night; I left the lights on all night. I'm a grown man, but that night I was a little boy again whimpering for my mommy.
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I think that the IMDB sums it up best. "If you like this title, we also recommend... Alien 3."
Both are just horrible films and are probably appreciated by the same crowd. Event Horizon is right up there with "Battlefield Earth" and "Yor: Hunter from the Future."
ANYWAY... With that said we'll have to see how Anderson does... yes he has made some horrible sheeat but Resident Evil was a decent film. Here's to hoping that Anderson gets some EXTRAODINARILY good help and enough caysh to make AvP a winner. AvP has been every fanboys dream ever since the Alien skull showed up on the Predator ship. Then came the DarkHorse comics and then the PC game. It's hit every major FanBoy medium there is really, except for film or TV. The visibility is crazy high and so are the expectations.
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TO ALL YOU PAUL ANDERSON HATERS, FUCK YOU!!! This is a project that has been on the radar for a long while and they picked a good director to guide this film. Now the movie is at least going to be interesting but hopefully terrific. He has made one interesting failure, "Soldier". The rest of his movies have been solid and I'm sure "Alien vs. Predator" will fall into this category. Anderson makes fun rides and with this idea, he can't fail.
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Mortal Kombat was solid? You sure you were'nt high when watching it?
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C'mon, who doesn't want to see what happens when an Alien infests and bursts its way out of a Predator??
How bad-ass would a Predator-ized Alien be? Very.
Also, whatever earlier Talk-Backer noticed the subconscious genital cues of the Predator's mouth and the Alien's second mouth is smart, in a sick way. -
the reason i dis harry, isn't because i don't like and appreciate what he's done. it's because i get so sick of people dumping all over certain people in the entertainment industry. calling paul anderson a hack?! fuck off. i'd like to see any of you shit talkers try to make a film of magnitude (Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil, Event Horizon, Shopping, Soldier) and please everyone. i feel like the man is underappreciated. he makes films like no else. he has his own vision and he goes after it. he helms huge projects and does a good job. maybe they aren't perfect, but go to any video store and you'll see a MILLION fucking flicks that are a MILLION times worse than any of his movies (Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob, Jane Austen's Mafia, Mission to Mars, the list goes on). so, go fuck yourselves all you wouldbe fanboy crybaby critics. until you start making movies and no how fucking hard it is, you've got no room to bitch. and, i predict that he's gonna make an awesome film out of Alien V Predator and then you'll all be sucking his dick. and by the way, could someone please tell me how Kevin Smith is considered to be so great by all of you, but Paul Anderson isn't? what planet do you live on? oxymoron.
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You're right in saying I shouldn't call people morons for simply liking a film, but in a way I was referring more to the type of community of people that would think these movies were great adaptions of games they played. A fine line I'm sure, but I didn't mean any offense. I myself like some films that most people seem to despise. I could never get why Alien 3 is hated so much, I thought it was fantastic considering it was from a first time director who had most of his ideas destroyed by Fox. I figure it's probably just the fact that it wasn't the same genre of film that Aliens was, so they decide to dislike it. A bit like Hannibal, everyone was expecting it to be essentially a retelling of SOTL's story but with a new killer to be tracked down and better special effects for the minimal violence, and what they got was closer to a black comedy/horror film. Hence, people shitting on it from great heights.
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the 4 part comic book from 12 years ago. Years ago I sold all my comic books. All my X-Men and Spiderman, all my Batman to. I
only kept a few comics. That 4 part series is one of them. I have been waiting for this movie for 12 years so i really don't care to much about anderson directing. R.E. did stay pretty close to the game -and they added
nudity. I have to remain positive on the issue. It won't be out for a few years anyway. So alot can happen between now and then. Also it could be worse - Lucas could direct. At lest this way we'll see the blood and gore and it won't be a frikk'in PG crapfest. -
Just thought I'd voice my opinion about the posts that say "Paul Anderson has directed movies X, Y and Z what has Harry(or any other talkbacker) directed? Nothing!". I think the idea that only directors can criticise other directors doesn't really hold water. We are the consumers our opinions matter. I couldn't direct a movie to save my life, but I think I can tell a good and bad one when I see it.
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And I'd rather watch Paul Anderson's worst movie than anything from Paul Verhoeven. At least Anderson doesn't pretend to be superior to his own material.
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To prevent any more confusion between the names of Paul Thomas Anderson and Paul Anderson, I believe that the latter should change his name to Alan Smithee. Problem solved.
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You're an idiot. What's with the question marks? Thanks a bunch for fucking up the formatting...
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Thanks! >:) P$
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It's a rip-off of JURASSIC PARK! Anderson is below average quality.
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Jul 17, 2002 10:17:31 AM CDT
TalkBackers: Stop Trying to Declare Event Horizon As An Admirabl
by silentclerk13
Listen guys, lets get to the point, there is not one, not a zilch of intelligence about film-making in Paul Anderson's mind. Throughout his whole career, he has wanted to be original (Mortal Kombat,Resident Evil) but he cant pull it off. He has to figure out that sticking to the roots of a story, will make that story the best it can be. Why are all these aspirant and would-be filmmakers trying to make everything "cool" and "hip". IM afraid to say that Alien:Resurrection was the last great Alien film. Anderson's credentials are just getting worse and worst. Thats all I have to say.
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One of the really fun things with AVP would be reorienting classic scenes from Aliens to fit the Predators. I had in mind a scene where Broken Tusk asks all the new recruits to dismantle their shoulder cannons and reset the DNA tracker to disable fire on humans. Two of the new guys--Like Drake and Vasquez--pull out their own trackers and reinstall, setting them to 'killall'. My favourite Linux commmand!
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howdy,
I saw the uncut version of Event here in Ireland, the censorship capital of the world - the wierd thing about the censor here is that instead of cutting films, he either shows it uncut or not at all...
anyway what happened was we the film was released in the cinemas uncut and then later on we got the heavily censored british release cut on dvd/vhs etc...
the uncut version is way, wayyyy more effective, and brutally violent in parts - to be honest I can understand why it was cut, it really was a little strong even for me eheh - but it was 100X more effective....
that said it was just as dumb as the version you've seen, so much so I could pretty much quote half the dialogue by heart after just one screening, it was so clich -
the question of the moment is how can we stop travesties like this in future?
here's a thought: why dont we stop paying to see these pieces of non joy muff clegg?
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if this is the paul anderson i'm thining of, he did have at least one spectacular movie. Fox's 1996 Doctor Who mwa ha ha ha ha. He is perfect for this movie.
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Sigourney Weaver kicks some serious Paul Anderson ass!
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Anderson will have learn't from his previous films and the critical maulings, and the anger of game-film fans and turn this cool premise of a film into a monster franchise. the guy does have style, not as much as fincher who would have been my first choice.I thought Soldier was o.k as was Event horizon, where he showed alot of promise. But he is in danger of turning into the next john carpenter, except without the reputation,'used to make great films'. I think the main problem is him actually writing the script.....you'd think that the type of producer's he has behind him would have chosen a much better scribe for this film, or atleast someone who is proven in this genre........and we can all take heart in the fact that they can't fuckup in the casting of the film...ALIEN.....PREDATOR... and no sign of Matt fucking Damon or his bum-boy buddy Ben Affleck. I mean he wouldn't would he......?
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Did Paul Anderson piss in your Wheeties or something? Sorry to interrupt your hatred spewing, but he's not a bad film director. He does however make some bad business decisions when it comes to production... Or maybe it's his production team. Event Horizon, no matter what you or the rest of the trollers think, was actually a pretty good movie. Not sure what you've got against it. Soldier was the man's only flat out pile of stink. I admit, he should be shot for that one. But hey, even the best film makers make a dud every once in a while. Mortal Kombat would've been a classic if not for two things that have nothing to do with directing. Casting and Choreography (okay maybe this has a little to do with directing; but nobody ever accused Anderson of being a kungfu expert). Better actors that could give more memorable performances coupled with better, more interestingly, and more intensely choreographed fight scenes would have done the trick. Resident Evil? A great movie if... One name... Tom Savini. The overly used cgi really killed this movie. CGI makeup is a bad move. Hopefully he's learned his lesson for the sequel. All in all though, it wasn't really Anderson's fault as a director. It's his pick of resources. So lay off the man. I don't see this much abuse for the pukes who tortured us with the likes of Summer Catch or Brittany Spear's Crossroads, or who currently torture us with Scooby Doo and Halloween Resurection.
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sorry, but before you label someone a hack, re-read your mostly unintelligible reviews. alien vs. predator was a fun script, paul anderson makes popcorn...and seems to improve with each film...who knows? if it's bad, it will easily fit in with every other action release. i'm just still trying to figure out how that god-awful music ever made it to the final cut of road to perdition.
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... is not that Anderson has been hired, but that this is even going to be a film at all. What a shitty, gimmicky waste of one-and-a-half good action/sci-fi franchises. This type of cross-pollination is cropping up all over, and is just another wretched example of the lack of creativity around town. This also seems to make little sense from the studio's point of view, as they are risking killing two franchises with one bomb. Your expenditure outlay is less by producing only one film, but so is your recoupment opportunity. Dumb.
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Why the fuck do these fuckers insist on given Paul Anderson these fan based movie projects when you know before he even starts to film it, he's gonna fuck it up. takes Resident Evil for example: the only way I knew it was a Resident Evil movies was the mention of the 'Umbrella' corporation; he didn't stay true to its characters or fan base, and now he's gonna try and make up for this by introducing these characters in the sequel. How many fan based movies does he have to fuck up before somebody notices this?
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This is exactly what's going on. This director makes a movie for let's say, 60 million dollars. At home it gross' 10 million, but over seas it gross' 80 million! That's a 30 million dollar profit. $$$ And that's all these fucks care about. It's cunts like this who come out of Bussiness school, get into film, and disregard art! If anybody at FOX is reading this, hire john McTeirnan to direct it, and fire this no-name, no-talent cunt-hole-stink.
P.S. I hear there's a "Tetris: The Movie" script out, maybe Paul Anderson can direct that. -
This is exactly what's going on. This director makes a movie for let's say, 60 million dollars. At home it gross' 10 million, but over seas it gross' 80 million! That's a 30 million dollar profit. $$$ And that's all these fucks care about. It's cunts like this who come out of Bussiness school, get into film, and disregard art! If anybody at FOX is reading this, hire john McTeirnan to direct it, and fire this no-name, no-talent cunt-hole-stink.
P.S. I hear there's a "Tetris: The Movie" script out, maybe Paul Anderson can direct that. -
Has anyone noticed how many new names there are in the talkback today? Notice the ones who Love Paul Anderson movies? Wanna bet they only talk in P.A. talkbacks? I'm not saying they are all plants, just most of them.
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Jul 17, 2002 10:40:02 PM CDT
Why the hell would Fox be SO STUPID as to sink any kind of money
by empyreal0
If there is anyone with a brain at Fox, they'd change their minds on this. I can't tell you how many fanboys out there would absolutely die to see this done right. I'd guarantee most of your sci-fi nuts, and a good portion of your horror nuts would go. But by putting Anderson in the pilot's seat, they've flushed a few million down the shitter. Why even bother?
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Seriously, I've always been the first to be all over anything related to the concept of Aliens vs. Predator. Now this news comes along that Paul Anderson is coming along to direct this film. It has got to be bullshit!! I hope its bullshit for the sake of everyone else who would love to see a film of this magantude come to life. If Paul Anderson goes on and fucks up this movie for everyone I am going to be severly pissed off and in the process proceed to embark on a crusade to end this motherfucker's movie career.
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this is one of THOSE movies. the kind we all hope get made (along with Nemo, Batman Year One, Evil Dead 4). PEOPLE, ITS "ALIEN VS PREDATOR" what other director would touch this with a 10 foot poll? they guy who did blade2? i'd rather have this "hack".
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Screwing up the formating with a mostly irrelevant piece of dung post should be bannable. I'd rather see assault on precinct 13 remade by the makers of josie and the pussycats than read another of his posts.
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Your all incompetent fools that don
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I didn't like Soldier because everything in the movie had been done before. The soldiers stylistically standing in perfect lines on the left and right side like this /\ had been done in Full Metal Jacket. Also, the robotic nature of the soldiers resembled FMJ on crack...which some people would also say would be like Terminator. The fight in the end in the rain resembled an 80's movie that I cannot quite remember. I think it was Universal Soldier but I'm not sure. Oh yeah, and I'm pretty certain that the beginning scenes of the training of children to be hardened soldiers was inspired by the Nazi youth programs created when Hitler was in power. This could have been an interesting element if there was a hint of satire about it. Sadly, there was none. I felt that there was nothing in this movie that was original or insightful in its storyline and it did nothing interesting with the "borrowing" of these elements from other movies. Throughout the whole movie I felt nothing for anyone in that film. That's a bad think when you don't give a crap about the protagonist. There was no real plot and the character development was fairly shallow. That's just for starters. I could go on and on about why I didn't like it. bigpackagemax, Soldier sucked and you can ask almost anyone about that film and they're going to say it sucks. I guess if hateing soldier = being a prick then there must be a hell of a lot of pricks in the world.
One thing to note about these movies. Is it the fault of the director that Soldier was so bad or was it a problem with the script? One of the things I always see in Anderson's movies is a style of directing that is interesting to look at. The problem is that there is nothing beyond that. The actual storylines, dialogue, and performances by the actors are never any good. To me it looks like the problem with Anderson's movies isn't his directing ability but his choice of material to direct and choices in casting. -
Jul 19, 2002 12:31:07 AM CDT
someone probably already posted this but i'm not going to re
by phineasgage
"I know I can beat him. I have gotten catalogs and magazines meant for him, and he wears very camp, gay clothes. And he looks very small as well."
that is a quote from Paul Anderson challenging Paul Thomas Anderson to a fight, this guy is an asshole. -
But the prolific useage of the word "cunt" has made me smile... the word is wasted in America where they mainly use it as a term of abuse for women. It's a very multi-faceted word my US chums and can be directed as anyone (see Pacino's fantastic use of the phrase "you stupid fucking cunt" in Glengarry Glen Ross)....use it more in conversation. It'll make someones day.
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The movie will tank before it is even finished! Paul anderson directs films like a fucking music video. He opts for style over substance and his style aint that great! Shiiiit!! This could be such a great film under better hands. I think they should have gone with David Twohy or one of the Scott brothers. Shit, just pay them a shit-load of money, they'll do it! It's like having a delicate surgery with a motherucker with parkinson's, it's bound to go wrong! This cannot happen. I propose an immediate letter-writing or email campaign. For the love of cinema, dont let that fuckin' quack anywhere near this film!
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Oh sweet buddah fucking christ, NOT HIM! ANYONE BUT HIM!
The Alien movies are masterpieces of modern science fiction, monuments to human brilliance, driven by some of the best creative minds in filmmaking: Ridley Scott, James Cameron, Joss Whedon, etc.
Paul Anderson's movies are monuments to the limitless stupidity that humans are capable of, driven by the single shittiest uncreative mind in filmmaking. Event Horizon was one of the most godawful pieces of shit ever made, and although I didn't see them, it looks like Soldier and Resident Evil are just as shitty. Mortal Kombat had a few cool parts, but was a total pile of fucking crap otherwise. My fucking CAT could write better movies than this shithead. Anyone who actually likes these movies should be put in a straightjacket and locked in a rubber room.
Ladies and gentlemen, you'd have to be a complete and utter fucking shitheaded moron (like the suits at fox are) to think that Paul Anderson could do any sort of justice to the Alien franchise. THE MATH JUST AIN'T THAT FUCKING HARD! This guy will take a concept that could potentially win Oscars, and he will make it into a steaming pile of monkey crap that will bury any chance of a DECENT Alien movie in the future.
Alien versus Predator could easily be an excellent movie, but I will dance through the streets of New York buck naked if it even turns out half decent in the hands of Paul Anderson. It would be better to give this movie to someone with no history whatsoever than to someone with a history of making absolute 100% pure shit. -
Okay, after the initial shock wore off, I think I'm ready to talk about this in a more calm and civilized manner. Anderson is a cock-sucking mother-fucking cunt-kicking christ-humping... er, damn, maybe I can't talk about this calmly. Let me try again.
The comic books and novels prove that an AVP movie can turn out extremely good. Anderson has proven that his movies cannot. He has proven to us all that he cannot make a good movie and that he never will. He is absolutely 100% the wrong guy for this project. And his competiton? There's no way he could be the only one willing to do this. There are thousands of people whose dream come true would be to write and direct this movie, and there are thousands of would-be writers/directors whose dream come true would be to make a movie - ANY movie. And nearly all of them have at least some speck of talent, which is more than I can say for Paul Anderson. Do you think Tim Burton would turn this project down? I doubt it. So, what's the overall point? My point is that there is a very real chance of doing an AVP movie well, but not if Paul Anderson is writing. Honestly, I'd rather see this movie never made at all that see it made by someone who would rape it up the ass, slit its throat, and leave it to die. -
And the funny thing is that Ridley Scott recently told an interviewer (of some mag) that he should be the one finishing the Alien legacy off. aVSp or not, he still believed he was the one to do it. Goddamn... How can FOX avoid this!?
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I have read all the Resident Evil books for one, he fucked that up. I have seen soldier and mortal combat, those werent even suit for children, because the couldnt interest an adult, but with too much strong language for a kid to watch. Is america just getting dumb so that the only thing we can understand is a shoot em up type film? I want something with backbone, especially since we are dealing with my favorite movie horror classics (Aliens and Predator). These cant be fucked up, if FOX is reading this, take it not so lightly. Everyone agrees this guy is a loser, you dont just keep turning a fuck up loose with delicate would be good films. Cmon put Peter Jackson on this thing, with a good budget he can whack the hell out of it, maybe even at the Lord of The Rings level:) Keep fighting, maybe the dumbasses will change their minds. Out.
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