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Sallah to be in INDY IV'
Hey folks, Harry here with a report from one of our Kiwi readers about the next Indiana Jones. Apparently on PRIME television they interviewed John Rhys Davies, who never has a lack of enthusiasm for telling it how it is, dropped a few tidbits of info that he knows about the next installment. Currently AICN has a cadre of spies looking to capture Mr Darabont and do the ol LSD and Concrete basement treatment till we learn all... Um... actually, no that's just a joke... ha.. ha... ummm, look HARRISON FORD over THERE!!!!
Dear Harry,
Long time reader, first time writer.
I have a small piece of news on the new "Indiana Jones" movie. Did you know, Colin Hanks will have a role in the film. Yes, Tom's son.
The larger than life, Jonathan Rhys Davies is here doing some reshoots for "Lord of the Rings" and told our TV station PRIME this week that a new Indiana Jones Movie is in the works, which by the sounds of it, he has a role in...I remember he had a role in one of the other films?? Now, he says he knows nothing of the story - but that some of his Indy's old girlfriends will appear in the film, as will Sean Connery as his Dad and Spielberg's pal, Tom Hanks, has talked the director into putting young Colin in the film too. As yet he doesn't know...but I read somewhere Indy had a son???
Hope this is A SCOOP??
Great work on the website - you should be proud.
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I'm curious......but will too many characters spoil the soup, as it were? I hope not.
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Should this really count as a scoop? I figured that he would be in this from day one! And whats up with the question marks? Its like this one time, at band camp?
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John Rhys-Davies has played the
role of Sallah in the INDIANA
JONES movies. He's practically
the glue that holds the movies
together.(Besides Harrison Ford,
of course.) I can't imagine the
series without Sallah. He's a
kick-ass character. As for Indy's
girlfriends,I'd rather see Karen
Allen than Kate Capshaw. Willie
was one of the worst things about
INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF
DOOM...and you know we won't be
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"He was in one of the other films." Jeez, give me a break. What a moron. Still, Indy IV might just be alright, but its a long way off and I know fuck-all about it.
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UGH! Mankind is doomed!
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Jun 24, 2002 9:50:25 AM CDT
I read some time ago about that scene where Indy is confronted b
by wardog
Or maybe it is several scenes in the movie. Borrrrring. IF that's true, an idea I dearly hope they trash. Hell, I'd go even if Calista Flockhart got the part of Indy's love interest. She's got more spunk and comedic talent than Kate Capshaw and Allison Doody put together. Hell, Flockhart could play a love-smitten grad student that follows Indy on his new adventure. And if Ford and Flockhart have a well-written love scene, they could really put out (the acting energy, that is.) Heh-heh-heh.
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Didnt' I read on Darkhorizons the other day about Callista Flockhart in Indy 4? I say CALLISTA FLOCKHART in INDIANA JONES 4. Unless I just dreamed it. Here's hoping. sk
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And how could anyone consider SALLAH the "glue" that hold the series together?That is like saying Wicket W. Warwick the ewok in ROTJ held the STAR WARS series together!I wanna know who is going to look older in JONES IV Sean Connery or H. Ford?I find it hard to believe anyone can give a fuck about the Jones franchise anymore.All we need now is for Lucas/Spielberg to release a press statement saying that they had to wait for SFX technology to catch up so they could tell the story they wanted to tell.PUHLEAZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ahh, if only Speilberg would cast Gilbert Godfried in it...
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10 bucks says she fell into some underground river. Of course she did- COME ON! Indy's dad boned her for crying out loud- she MUST come back. As for Sallah... well, not so much the glue that holds it all together. But damn, he should totally be there. Here's hoping they don't make him the same bumbling comedy relief he was in Crusade. 'That cah belonged to my brathah!' Please... PS Is Brody dead? Out.
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I remember attending to a showing of all three Indiana Jones films at the Wang Center in Boston in early 1994, and John Rhys-Davies was there in person, saying that, no, he *didn't* like being in the well of the souls, and taking a large snake out of a bag to show the audience. Also, whenever he would show up in Raiders and Last Crusade, an entire row of viewers would start chanting, "Sal-lah!" It was hilarious.
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Now I'm thoroughly convinced that Hollywood is nothing but a bunch of self-serving, nepotistic scumsuckers that should all be butchered alive in Times Square. I don't have anything against Colin Hanks, as I've never seen him act, but the fact that he might only be in it because he's Tom Hanks' son sucks. Really. Truly. It sucks.
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Do we really need another Indy film ? I know I'm just going to spend the whole movie thinking how fucking craggy Harrison Fords looking these days - hell, I did that through Last Crusade and that was 13 years ago! Love Raiders, like Temple of Doom, Last Crusade gets worse everytime I see it - such a lazy, gimmick ridden piece of cinema and I'm thinking this one's going to be the same. If Spielberg, Ford and Lucas really want to work together again then why don't they do us all a favour and come up with something original instead of going over the same tired ground yet again (but with more CG)- my guess is that it may have less to do with that fact that they
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Freddie Prinze Jr. as Indy's son?
Denise Richards as the new love interest?
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Kare n Allen was BY FAR the best love interest for Ford. Bring her back!!!!
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What the hell is going on here!?! Calista Flockheart!?! Colin Hanks !?! I hope these end up being unsubstantiated rumors.
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When is this mutual butt kissing between these two gonna stop?
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Do we really want to see 60 year old Harrison Ford and Indy Jones? A trilogy has meaning if done well..a forth episode is simply pimping the product. What they could have done was 'de-aged' the character ala another Ford character property in the Sum of All Fears..but maybe seeing all of his beloved roles played by younger actors would be just to much for old Harrison to take.
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Colin Practically follows his dads footsteps when he was in his early movies like Big, this is a good thing, he can get started in bigger movies earlier then his father who is the best actor in the world, stating the award he wins tonight, thats right I cant wait to see Colin as Indy's SON!
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Yes, Brody - aka Denholm Elliott - died in 1992 of AIDS-related causes.
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that would be ripping off the matrix.
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They post this speculative crap but they won't post my scoop on the new Smurf movie starring Ralph Fiennes, Sigourney Weaver, and Patrick Stewart as Papa Smurf! This site's losing all credibility...
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Jun 24, 2002 11:25:18 AM CDT
who cares? I love J.R.D. but the main star is too fecking old!
by tarl_cabot
I'd like to see John-Ryes Davis return to 007 instead. He was great as General Pushkin in "The Living Daylights". Indy IV? arrrgg! No thanks. The last Crusade was soooo shitty and now they are gonna make an ensemble-reunion film? Anyone see Leathal weapon 4? That series turned out to be so fecking gay (Jet Li was the only good thing about it) and it sounds like Indy IV is gonna follow that pattern. Raiders was a masterpiece; the greatest action movie of all time. Lucas should just let Indy rest in peace and not Rape our child hoods again. I can't help but think greed and ego are behind this project, in HF's case b/c his star has diminished steadily thanks to crap choices the last 12 years.
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Jun 24, 2002 11:48:50 AM CDT
Temple of Doom was something different than Raiders, & Last Crus
by ralph cifaretto
A son? That might work. Indy's father was a pussy, so would his son be tough?
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Will we ever learn what really happened with/to Abner Ravenwood?
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Jun 24, 2002 11:55:28 AM CDT
Who would Indy fight? Not Nazi's again? Italian fascists?
by ralph cifaretto
Maybe Spielberg could resurrect the Jewish themes of "Raiders" & incorperate Hitler's "final solution" into the plot? Anyway they go, this sounds like a dud in the making.
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Despite the fact that the scooper is either blind or only saw "Temple of Doom." Sallah is one of the best characters in the series (outside of Denholm Elliot, who they better give a damned good sendoff to at the beginning of this film), and I wouldn't want to see a new Indy film without him in it. Actually, I want Marion Ravenwood back in it as an actual major character, but Spielberg will probably only let her appear in a small cameo. Grrrrr, stupid "Temple of Doom" prequel messing up chances that Marion would appear in all three. On the other topics of this discussion, I think that Colin Hanks would be a pretty good choice to play Indy's son, especially if he had been raised away from everything his father represents (you know, if he had been raised by Willie Scott or by Marion, or anybody else who got totally freaked out by his adventures). He could be the incredibly bookish, naive son who helps to kick the ass of the villain at the end. I know you may not like that, but that's probably the direction that Spielberg is going to go in. A few final notes: I really hope they work in all the stuff we've learned about Indy over the three films and the TV Series, and not just scrap it all. C'mon, I wanna see Harrison Ford play the saxaphone again! Oh, and Tarl_Calbot, you're right. "Lethal Weapon 4" was incredibly homosexual. I loved the scene in it where Danny Glover and Mel Gibson discuss Barbara Streisand. (That last part of the message brought to you by People for Removing "That's So Gay" from the American Lexicon.) And I really want to see JRD back in the 007 series too. Maybe as a replacement for the now killed-off Robbie Coltrane?
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In regards to the idea of an Indy 4 I'll steal a quote from Harrison's other famous alter ego
Han Solo, "I've got a bad feeling about this." Now don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE fan of these films and Harrison Ford and would love to see Indy on the big screen once again but not at the risk of ruining the previous 3 films.
The little info that has been released regarding this project has, so far, been disheartening. Indy's finds himself confronted with all his past loves? Who wants to see that shit? Him runnin' around with his dad again? NOPE. Colin Hanks as his son? I'm tryin not to choke on my puke at this idea.
I know it's still early in the developement stages but I have to wonder how all this is going to play out. In my opinion 3 is enough.
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Hey folks, here's the text up on imdb.com's Celebrity News Page for 6/21/02 re Calista F. in Indy IV: "Actress Calista Flockhart is apparently planning to team up with boyfriend Harrison Ford in the next Indiana Jones movie. Filming on Indiana Jones 4 is due to begin in May 2004, with the film looking more adult than its 1980s predecessors. A source says, 'Harrison Ford had only one demand when he was approached about doing a fourth Indiana Jones movie - that Calista be written into the new movie. Luckily, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas loved the idea. They think Calista will be a perfect romantic interest for Indiana.' And having the ex-Ally McBeal star on board solved one problem for the filmmakers. The source says, 'The Indy team had no idea what to do with Indy for the fourth movie. Bringing Calista on board gave them inspiration and they dreamed up the whole story in just a few hours. Getting Calista into the movie was the kick-in-the-pants the guys needed.' I didn't make this shit up, go check it out. This is a pretty reasonably legit website, but God knows who the unnamed source is. Now doesn't that make y'all a bit queasy hearing that they "had no idea what to do with Indy" and that Calista is the big idea they needed to kick-start the film?? I got a baaaaad feeling about this.
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Jun 24, 2002 12:54:45 PM CDT
Leathal Weapon 4-You know what I meant-No, they did not discuss
by tarl_cabot
I meant "gay" as in stupid, uncool,insipid,lacking in any edge (like the first two) and too light and campy. "Gay" as in saturated in baby boomer bullshit sentimentality and "we're too old for this shit but's let's kick ass anyway" crap-I fear that's gonna be the comedic bread and butter of a new Indy. When I say that's so "Gay" it's not neccessarrily refering to homosexuality. It's just a phrase-that's taken on a new meaning like "Bad" which can mean "good"...People use "gay" all the time on this site and I know it's not politically correct but it's just a habit...sorry. :)*** Yeah, J.R.D. should have been in "Goldeneye"(sucked) and any other 007 outing that would have involved Russians. He was a great character that would have complimented any further Bond films.I think they want to distance themselves from the percieved failure of the Timothy Dalton movies(I personally think they both were better than any of the Pierce Brosnan installments).
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They should start over with the new Indy being Ben Affleck. He could follow in the footsteps of Harrison Ford.
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I fail to see why a sequel in which the characters are clearly older is necessarily a bad thing. People age, characters age, and if done properly the process opens up far more possibilities for good storytelling than it closes. Whether or not it will be done properly is, of course, an open question, but I don't think we should condemn it before a single frame is shot. Oh, I should probably mention the Colour of Money, and possibly a couple of novels by Dumas.
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Whatever happend to the story line that had Karen Allen back and Natalie Portman as their daughter, with Kevin Costner as Indy's evil bro? I am not too concerned about the Calista Flockhart rumor, because with Ford's relationship track record they probably won't be dating by the time shooting starts.
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Ugh. Nothing against Colin Hanks, who ay be a perfectly wonderful guy, but as a former struggling actor it makes me sick that kids like Hanks and Hawn get free rides to the top of the Hollywood food chain because of who their parents are.
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Too many characters will ruin the movie. Just look at Lethal Weapon 4.
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Unless the news comes directly from Spielberg, Lucas, Ford, or Darabont I'm not gonna sweat it. At this point I'm just excited this film is finally going to get made. Another Indiana Jones flic!!! I CANNOT friggin' wait!!! Hopefully the trilogy will hit DVD next year. Get your ass in gear will ya!
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GIMLI OWNS JOO!!! Okay, 'have no idea what that means, but everyone else says it, so I figure'd I'd give it a go... Nope. Still don't know what it means. John Rys rules however. I wonder if they'll let him speak dwarvish in this picture... That and let him bitch slap Indy with the flat of his axe when 'e gets out of line.
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The idea of Indy having a son is just retarded. Colin Hanks was alright in Orange County, but I don't know what they'd do with him in INDY 4- and if he plays his son, like I said, retarded. I think that all the Indy girls are just going to be a cameo- but it can't be all of them, since one of them died in Last Crusade, so it will be two Indy girls in a cameo. I hope the new Indy girl is not Callista Flockhart- that rumour is just not cool either. We need a hard, action packed adventure featuring Indy, Sallah, Connery as his dad, and a new Indy girl. We don't need Colin Hanks or his old girlfriends too. Get back to the basics- this is an adventure movie, not Magnolia. Why are there so many damn characters?
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They were subtitled THE MUMMY & THE MUMMY RETURNS.Done by a director with real talent.And yes I'm serious.This is not a joke.God bless S. Sommers and the man himself Arnold Vosloo.You can thank Lucas/Spielberg for digging up this fossil of a franchise due to the sucess of MUMMY 1&2 and probably soon to be #3.Maybe if they got Mr.Sommers instead of Spielberg(the hack that he is these days)then perhaps I would have a mild interest in JONES IV!Thank you and good day!:-]
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How about Sean Patrick Flanery? Wouldn't that make more sense? Indy's no spring chicken, the kid don't HAVE to be a teenager.
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The Mummy films are "sequels" to the Indiana Jones films the way Juwanna Mann is a sequel to Hoosiers.
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Jun 24, 2002 6:32:29 PM CDT
Bet they steal a page from the indy video games and have him fig
by thematarife
Yep, the USSR as a villan no doubt.
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So is the movie gonna be called "Indiana Jones: The Next Generation"??? I can almost picture Colin Hanks as Henry Jones III. However they should get the kid from "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" if they want Indy to have a son! Or how about one of Harrison Ford's kids?? He has 3 Sons(Malcolm, Willard and Ben). And who says Indy has to have a son? Maybe there's a daughter! And Harrison's daughter, Georgia, could play the role! :P Im an Indiana Jones fanatic frell even baught the book about the real Indiana Jones, Roh Chapman Andrews! He's the guy that Indy is based on(even the same hat!)
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SARCASM!!!!!!Oh,I'll take that as a dig at the MUMMY movies.I did not realize that the JONES movies were high art.Just because the JONES films are twenty years old does not mean any newer films can't improve on the concept.H. Ford is just to fuckin' old for this kind of movie.Unless ILM can perfect an all CGI JAR-JAR Ford it's time to hang up the hat and whip.At least Herr Ahnuld is finishing up T3 while he still has some spark left in him!At least no one with 1/8 of a brain thinks that there will be a T4 with Arnold in it playing a sixty something cyborg.Personally I can't stand stunt casting,ex. Jimmy Smits in AOTC.It stops the flow of the movie cold!Do we really need to be watching JONES IV and then yell out "It's ALLY McBEAL"!?!?!?!Just because C. Flockhart polishes H. Ford's whip do we need that bitch in the movie.By the by how did Kate Capshaw get her part in Temple of Doom?Just wondering out loud!Think about it.THINK HARD!:-]
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You'll never get them to work together again. Any generic X-Files/Tomb Raider plotline could serve as the spine for the next Indy movie. King Midas, Roswell, time travel, Pyramids, Atlantis etc. Myself, I'd actually like to see the reappearance of the ol' ark. You know, the USSR hijacks it out of the warehouse or something.
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Jun 24, 2002 7:21:18 PM CDT
P.S. But I think it'd be even better if they never did anoth
by christopher3
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After the shambles of TPM and AOTC, do we really want to see another classic trilogy mutilated by its mellowed-out creator? Let's face it: Spielberg, Ford and Connery are too old for this shit. If they make Indy 4, it's going to go the same way as Star Wars and spoil the Indy experience for everyone. Let sleeping dogs lie I say.
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Ben Affleck wouldn't be a bad Indy. Certainly would beat seeing a 65-year-old Ford. Colin Hanks seems a decent choice for the son; I imagine the YOUNG INDY actor is now a bit long in the tooth to play Indy's son. Who cares about Calista? Hopefully her role will be as miniscule as her body. We don't need a fourth INDY film, however.
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To ATOMIC LOBSTER
Having a old people in a movie is OK when it is something like DRIVING MISS DAISY, YA YA SISTERHOOD, and the like.
Having old people in a movie like INDY 4 -- other than Sean Connery -- is patently absurd. Old people creak when they move. Ford is too old to be brandishing a whip, except on Calista's skinny ass. -
quick, what show reference did I just make to Indiana Jones?! first one to respond wins a cookie!
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Spielberg has done some exceptional work, including Saving Private Ryan.. and movies that dont really find a nich such as A.I. ----- One VERY obvious failure of his though has been his inability to maintain a sense of vision on any work he has done in the past. E.T. is a perfect example.. he lacks the passion of his youth.. and instead, much like Lucas, is forced to go back and relive his glory days by hacking the living shit out of work that was not only wonderful, but original. --- Raiders of the Lost Arc was dark, exciting, riviting, funny, and intelligent. The Characters were believable, had history together, and hinted at earlier adventures that might be fleshed out in later films. ----- Rather then work with this, Steven decided to exchange intelligence and humor for slapstick and cheap laughs. It degraded to pathetic stupidity with Crusade, where they relegated Brody to bumbling fool (he was sharp and intelligent in Raiders, and could possibly have been Indy's teacher/mentor after leaving Ravonwood), and Salah to an ineffectual nursemaid & fodder for cheap laughs when Brody ceased to be funny. ---- I have absolutly no hope for this franchise, and never really liked most of Harrison's films. Hes an adequate actor, and with the exception of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' & 'Reguarding Henry', always plays the same person. Brooding, dark, quiet, intense, angry. I have yet to see a film of his and see the character he was playing.. it was always Ford being himself.
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One does not get a lead or even a supporting role in a movie because of one's parentage. The number of people who would see a movie based on which major movie star's child is in it is zero. There is no moment of casting director inspiration when they figure that hiring a star's offspring will fill theaters by association. Roger Ebert nailed it in his Orange County review - nepotism can get someone a job as a P.A, but not a leading role. There's far too much money at risk. And on top of that, Colin Hanks carried Orange County and did it well. He showed a lot of range in those 82 minutes and held his own against Catherine O'Hara, John Lithgow, Harold Ramis and Kevin Kline. And it takes something more than being Tom Hanks' son to not get blown off the screen by Jack Black. As for Indy IV, why not? Frank Darabont's presence is encouraging - if only Lucas had actually gone with his original plan for the SW prequels with Darabont on Episode II and David Fincher directing Episode III. I'm still sore over how great those movies could have been. But with Spielberg at the helm - even with the high school reunion-esque attitude surrounding this project - I'm looking forward to it. I seem to be in the minority on that, but I don't think an Indy movie directed by Spielberg from a Darabont script will rape anybody's childhood or sour the originals. I honestly don't see Spielberg going in the Lucas all-CGI all the time direction. With Minority Report Spielberg just proved he could seamlessly integrate some pretty great SFX without making them the focal point of the flick. On top of that, Minority Report very often had that sense of excitement that Spielberg hasn't fully tapped into since Temple of Doom. He's dabbled with it here and there to varying degrees of effect (Last Crusade, Hook) but maybe after having a little fun with Catch Me If You Can he can find a nice pulpy, fun groove for Indy IV. The big difference between Spielberg and Lucas is that Spielberg has kept making films beyond his initial successes, and tried different things. Lucas' mind has been on Star Wars for 25 years, and at leas the last six years of his life have been dominated by the prequels. Any writer will tell you that kind of focus obscures any kind of objectivity, especially when you're allowed to go creatively apeshit and answer to no one. At least Spielberg will be there to keep Lucas on a leash and Darabont can offer his input. To Spielberg, Indy IV will probably be a last bash before taking on something more serious. It isn't his entire career, so maybe playing a little bit loose with it will benefit the entire film. Also, if this is out in 2005, to what extent will Lucas even be involved in the production? He'll be busy on Episode III, so anybody worrying about him turning it into a flick of SW prequel stature is unnecessary. As for Ford - a lot of older guys kick ass until they take a dirt nap. John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Robert Mitchum. Clint Eastwood still does it occassionally. Gene Hackman could fuck someone up, in fact he did it in real life just a few months ago. Connery did some crazy shit in Entrapment and nobody cared. Did Anthony Hopkins have shootouts in Bad Company? Nobody makes jokes about Pacino and De Niro. Sure, all of these guys are better actors than Ford and aren't exactly swinging around on a whip, but sixty isn't really that old, especially since he was pushing close to forty when he originated the character. And he's a Hollywood sixty - spry and bankable. On top of everything, it's not like they're dusting this off the shelf - haven't they been trying to put this together since Last Crusade? Jeffrey Boam even wrote a script pretty quick after Last Crusade. These guys aren't trying to rescue fledgling careers or make more money - they're all good to go. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but maybe they're even doing it from a passion to do it. Can George Lucas even feel emotion? Can Harrison Ford emote? Can Spielberg wrangle it all into a movie that doesn't make fanboys cry? Hopefully the answer to all three is maybe.
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I figured it out. Calista will be playing a mummy that Indy unearths in an archeological dig. No makeup or CGI will be needed.
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...because the only movie we need to concern ourselves with is Goonies II, Revenge of One Eyed Willy. Harrison Ford is a great grandpa for gods sake. PLEASE lets start an online pettition and squash this movie and make Speilberg do Goonies II. It could be the kids of the original goonies gang finding all the goonie gear from the first gang up in Sean Astin's attic. I can see it now... it would have to be rated R because this time the cheerleader will have a shower scene! YUMMY! =)
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I agree completely with LockeDemosthenes on this; ugly-ass Colin Hanks needs to find his own work as an actor without relying on Daddy to get him gigs. What's the matter Colin? Having tough times, not being able to pay off that Jaguar? Well boo, hoo. Compare that to the poor starving wannabes from Ohio who came all the way out to Hollywood to act and are serving tables for a living, sleeping out of their cars. While we're at it, why not just digitally ressurect River Phoenix to play young Indy again, and add Tom Selleck--the original Indy--to boot? Geez. Colin Hanks has no place in this film. Hell, no Hankses should, for that matter.
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Jun 26, 2002 7:18:57 PM CDT
Why all the bitching about the phrase "That's gay!" is, in f
by mutant x
The word "gay", unlike what so many "activists" will tell you, does not mean only homosexual. It means "happy", for Christ's sake!!!!! So if the gay community can take a word meaning "happy" and change it to mean "homosexual", then I can damn well use it to mean stupid. Same thing with "queer", the word goddamn well means "odd or strange", so I'll use it any time I jolly well feel like it to twist the definition. The "happy" community set the precedent. _____ To keep this on-topic, Kate Capshaw sucks and shouldn't be involved in Indy 4.
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